COLLECTIVE MADNESS


“Soft despotism is a term coined by Alexis de Tocqueville describing the state into which a country overrun by "a network of small complicated rules" might degrade. Soft despotism is different from despotism (also called 'hard despotism') in the sense that it is not obvious to the people."

Sunday, November 02, 2008

Obama Will Kill Pennsylvania Coal Industry



Listen to  How Obama Talks in San Fransisco


In Pennsylvania there are approximately 7,000 direct mining jobs and over 65,000 indirect or support jobs created to support and service Pennsylvania's mines. Pennsylvanians and other Americans need to listen to Obama's words. He is a dangerous Left wing ideologue. Votes matter. Pennsylvania owes Obama nothing.

193 comments:

  1. Saw that @ Hot Air, gave the percentage of US Electricity Generated by Coal, what, 40 or 50?
    Screw em, they need some behavior modification!
    ---
    Why Don't We Get Drunk and Screw - Jimmy Buffett

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  2. Do either one of these guys want to win? I mean, Really?

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  3. I'm starting to agree with Bob. The only one among'em that's got a lick of sense is Sarah Palin.

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  4. She knows we need oil. She knows we need coal. She knows we need Solar, Wind, and Ethanol (and, that coal miners, farmers, and factory workers vote;) and, I'm pretty sure she knows we have 50 States.

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  6. McCain needs 15% of the Democrats in Pennsylvania to support him. That can come from gun owners and hunters. Pennsylvania hunters kill 500,000 deer each year in Pennsylvania. That would imply at least 2 million hunters. There are 1.1 million veterans and their families. Will 15% of those numbers who are Democrats vote for McCain?

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  7. BUSHIES THROW A PITY PARTY.... After failing in every imaginable way, with the worst approval ratings since the dawn of modern polling, and with a party that wants the president to be neither seen nor heard, the Bush White House is apparently feeling a little sorry for itself.

    Others inside and outside the administration ... say the upbeat talk masks disappointment and frustration among many White House staffers, who believe Bush's reputation has been unfairly maligned for a series of calamities -- from the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks to the financial crisis -- that were beyond his control and that he handled well. GOP nominee John McCain's escalating attacks on Bush's tenure have added to the irritation, these people said.

    "Everybody kind of wanted to spend the last 100-plus days doing some legacy things, and the financial crisis has thrown a wrench into that," said one prominent Republican who regularly talks with senior White House officials.

    "You have a combination of no legacy stuff, a horrible economic mess and the likelihood that Obama is going to win," this person added. "There is a real sadness there."

    The Bushies are sad? One wonders whether they can appreciate how the rest of us feel.
    —Steve Benen 10:30 AM Permalink

    Feel the sadness.





    Sarah Palin is dummer than a sack of hammers. That'll work its way into the Republican postmortem.

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  8. Bush and McCain, in contrast, are Rhodes scholars.

    She was, perhaps, the worst political gimmick ever. Like a prize in the cereal box that worked to opposite effect.

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  9. If I were her, I would probably want McCain's head on a platter. But then again, I know my own limits.

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  10. David Kurtz at TPM:

    [...]

    You're already seeing signs of the impact of the expectation of an Obama win. McCain is going all out to try to win this thing, but let's be honest, his party is not. You don't have to look too closely to see GOP officeholders running for cover, and not just from Bush, McCain, and Palin -- but from specific policies and tactics, too. As the political tsunami approaches the beach, it's every one for himself.

    But all that being said, what will an Obama landslide translate into in the first year he's in office? It's not clear to me. One of the most toxic effects of the decline of the two parties as political institutions and the rise of the modern TV-based political campaign, with its cult of personality politics, is that the election becomes a referendum on the candidates themselves, rather than on broad policies or platforms.

    The peril of the modern political campaign is not its nastiness (come on, we're all adults). It's that it supplants a real debate, so that by the time the election actually happens and a victor is declared, it's not entirely clear what we all collectively just decided. Did we just vote for universal health care, or against that cranky old man and his dimwitted running mate?

    [...]

    Good question.







    I would cut and paste from The Corner, but I've stopped dropping by. The metaphysical embarrassment is too much. I'm sure I'm not the only one.

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  11. Obama's an educated/indoctrinated idiot, easily found at your local semi-decent to good college campus. Above-average manipulator, but had everything going for him once he didn't turn out a total screw-up due to his mother and father, up to and including this campaign season. Biden's might be of slightly above average intelligence, but is also a self-important blowhard. McCain's...average, with flashes of stupidity. Palin's of average intelligence, but ignorant, having not been in the Washington talk-shop for decades or obsessed with politics all her life.

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  12. Kurtz is full of shit. Popular politics have been like that for the average voter: for personalities over programs and style over substance. Those truly interested have always had to dig under the veneer to find what was truly bought, if he hasn't looked or poo-pooed the process, it's his own fault.

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  13. Ask yourself, since the start of the campaign, have you seen Any Midwestern, Republican Governors or Senators stand beside John McCain? Any?

    He's done everything he could, from the very start, to infuriate the farm vote. Have you Ever heard of a Republican winning without the Farm Vote?

    And, you call Sarah Palin "Dimwitted?"

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  14. Palin's of average intelligence, but ignorant, having not been in the Washington talk-shop for decades or obsessed with politics all her life.

    Sun Nov 02, 12:07:00 PM EST

    I trust one needn't have spent decades in the Washington talk-shop in order to avoid the painful and lasting appearance of ignorance.

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  15. "The peril of the modern political campaign is not its nastiness (come on, we're all adults). It's that it supplants a real debate, so that by the time the election actually happens and a victor is declared, it's not entirely clear what we all collectively just decided. Did we just vote for universal health care, or against that cranky old man and his dimwitted running mate?"

    So I take it you agree with Kurtz, sinless. Personality over policy.

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  16. I vote Every election.

    Do you people realize how hard it is for me to vote This Election?

    I Despise John McCain. I'm going to vote for him; but, I'll feel sick about doing it. You'll probably, on the night of the 4th have to put up with the drunkest blogger to ever puke on a keyboard in Mississippi.

    I'll tell you how I feel about it; I'm going to stock up on liquor, tomorrow, just in case we have some sort of silly liquor-on-election day laws still in effect down here.

    This is the most depressing election of my lifetime. How do you think I'd feel if I were a Midwestern Farmer. You think I'd leave the house?

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  17. Isn't it a good thing we all got together and formed a worry-group about Romney's "Sunday-go-to-Meeting" underpants?

    Isn't it a good thing we're going to get "Universal" Health Care instead of the Workable, Rational system in effect in Massachusetts?

    Lord, we might have ended up with a President whose Great-Grandfather had more than one wife. Wouldn't that have been a calamity?

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  18. In re "above average manipulator," I think the proper term is gifted persuader.

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  19. And, who's pulling in way the most, actual, registered voters at every stop? Guarantee it ain't McStupid, Blowhard, or the Messiah.

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  20. Isn't it a good thing we all got together and formed a worry-group about Romney's "Sunday-go-to-Meeting" underpants?

    - rufus

    Hey, don't look at me. A man's underwear is his own business.

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  21. The Republicans certainly promoted personality before position, this cycle.

    It was their entire game plan, that seems to have been the case.
    If McCain were to draw that straight, and win. He'd have no policy mandate from the electorate.

    Obama and the Dems have promoted a series of policy positions, and run on them. Tax cuts, expanded student aid, universal health care.

    Obama could claim a mandate, but McCain, he'd still be trying to chart the course, governing day by day.

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  22. 33 million, in one stop, rufus.

    That is the winner, hands down.

    Of all the Republicans to have been brand tested, this past 18 months, Sarah Palin is the only "winner" that they have produced.

    Whether she is smart or not, ignorant or educated, matters not a lick. She'll learn to parrot some stock responses, may even hold a press conference or two, for the experience.

    But of the entire cast of GOP candidates, she soars above the rest of the turkeys.

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  23. Hey, don't look at me. A man's underwear is his own business.

    Hmm

    Puhleeze Lord, make me shut up. Pleeze.

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  24. But of the entire cast of GOP candidates, she soars above the rest of the turkeys.

    Sun Nov 02, 12:51:00 PM EST

    Au contraire. She has managed to turn off that slice that slice of America that was and is the electoral prize: the great unclaimed.

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  25. I still believe that there are enough people who cannot stand Obama's voice, who hate the fact that he is hard Left and has a history of associates that do not reflect mainstream US values, and are not buying into the guilt black thing to upset this race.

    The Bradley affect is bigger than thought. It is probably commensurate with the office.

    Who cares about a big city major where the population is majority black? Governorships are another matter and the presidency in a league of its own.

    Obama is all about race himself. He was not a community organizer in Appalachia or Hawaii for that matter. He was at the million man march with Farakkan, worshipped for twenty years with Rev Wright and is a member of the Black Caucus.

    He uses his white mother and grandparents as a flag of convenience. Obama is getting 100% support from the black voters.

    There are probably 15% of white Democrats, who aren't talking, and who will have no one looking over their shoulder when they vote.

    They are no better or worse than the blacks who are going to vote black. So it goes in America.

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  26. Oh, go ahead, rufus.

    It's Let It All Hang Out Sunday at the Bar. Didn't you see the bulletin board?

    This comes just before Militant Subversive Wednesday.

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  27. You could, very well, be right, Deuce. And, even though I thoroughly dislike the backwards bastard, I, sincerely, hope you are.

    I just wouldn't bet the farm on it.

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  28. Trish, you qualify 100% as a "kibbitzer".....

    Pete, about your point, the inimitable Jennifer Rubin has a theory about what kind of conservatives are more likely to attack Palin. She calls it Players vs. Kibbitzers. Players are political ops, office holders, commentators and radio/tv hosts who have an audience that determines their income, who see their jobs as rallying the troops, persuading people and defending them. They care about outcomes. That type can't afford to smack readers/listeners or assert that they have come to a judgement superior to that listeners — unless they are so persuasive that they can get away with it.

    The kibbitzers, on the other hand, are people with columns or who write books, who feel that their personal search for truth, a clever new analysis — or popularity — is the point of the exercise. "They write books, tell us what is wrong with conservatism, and scold the poor slobs who run campaigns. They lack any visceral sense of actual conservative voters" They are attached to no grass roots, and their goal is to appear smart, or thoughtful in their moments on, say, Charlie Rose. Rubin goes on to say, ""Now, some of the Kibitzers, truth be told, don’t care much about ideas: it is sentiment and word pictures that catch their attention. They’d rather toss around elegant phrases unmoored to any reasoned argument — slip the surly bonds of analysis, as it were — than mix it up in the hurly-burly of real electoral politics. And Palin’s not very poetic, after all."



    In addition, as my wife (a lifelong Republican) says, an attractive, feminine, popular and successful woman who leads and gets things done scares the pants off those who aren't/don't.

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  29. Also, see Fred Barnes To Know Her is to Respect Her"

    You clearly don't know her in any way imaginable. As you said yourself "I don't get Sarah Palin".

    Might be worth some introspection as to why that is.

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  30. One thing strikes me, Jwillie; those people who don't get her never point to her success as a Governor. She's kinda like Reagan, in that respect.

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  31. Did you know that she has a "security clearance" higher than Biden's? And, maybe (I'm not sure) McCain's.

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  32. She's smart as a whip, Doug posted a long article by some gal the other day that had interviewed her as evidence. Wish I could find it. She's just first time on the national stage.

    Many others are dummer than she.

    Also, the blondes hate her for her hair, that's what I read.

    She twisted Biden around her little finger at the debate.

    Go Saracuda!!!

    McCain would be dead in the water without her, and that's for sure.

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  33. If the big zerO wins and the coal fired plants get shut down, it would please Dr. Bill in a way, if they replaced them with nuclear. It was the greenies that killed nuclear power in the first place. Would be poetic if we came full circle.

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  34. Now, there’s real enthusiasm for Palin. Standing in front of the picture-perfect 1858 courthouse in Chillicothe, she draws about as many people as Barack Obama himself drew earlier this month. And they’re just as excited to see her. “Love her,” one woman tells me. “She’s a great gal.” “It’s exciting,” says another woman. “She just speaks what I think is the truth, right down to earth,” says a man.

    Lovin' Sarah In Middle America

    She's got them enthused in Ohio, Pennslyvania.

    Go 'cuda!

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  35. “I’m one of those bitter, clinging people — with my AR-15 and my 9 millimeter. I own two weapons, and he’s not taking them from me. I guess I better be clinging to them if he’s elected. And I go to St. Peter’s Catholic Church over there — go to mass about every other day.”

    “I’m also extremely scared from the military side of things. He scares me to death. I’m not for losing any wars, and Obama beat Hillary because the far left thought he was more radical on the war. America’s greatness is in winning wars and being who we are as a capitalist society.”

    As we speak, Palin has finished up and is shaking hands with supporters. She’s down in the crowd for a few minutes, and then climbs back on stage to wave goodbye. We both turn to the stage for a look. “She’s awesome,” Rinehart says. “Absolutely awesome.”

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  36. And, another thing: the Palin-bashers always seem to overlook the fact that of the 15, or 20 most agregious misstatements, and complete falsehoods told in the debate, Joe Biden owned every one of them. All they can point to is that Sarah Palin mispronounced the name of the CO in Afghanistan.

    She did that while "Correcting" a falsehood by Biden as to what the man, actually, said.

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  37. The bastards at google shut down the video of the morning post about Obama and Rev Wright. People we have a problem.

    This son of a bitch needs too be stopped.

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  38. Idaho Republicans Finally Decide To Bring Gun To Gunfight

    Why in the world would the Idaho democrats want to give out Sali's social security number? What the hell is to be gained by that? Seems just plain stupid, to me. Yet, at first, they didn't seem to be able to comprehend they had done something amiss.

    I just don't get it. Unless, they really are that dumb.

    It wasn't a mistake, they did it intentionally. Why?

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  39. I swear to God, democrats seem to have become just totally shameless. All this vote fraud, dirty tricks, double standards, on and on. Bitching about Auntie Zeitumi being outed. Now, who helped Auntie Zeitumi get housing, and on the public dole, I'd like to know? Kept her from getting arrested? Deported like she should be? Wasn't the republicans, I'd bet. And Bush, who could kick her out of the country, being the gentleman, says, "It's a family matter."


    I've got a couple squirrels working over the sunflower plants, seeding up for winter. Fun to watch.

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  40. This comment set me off - Ash-like in its elitist smarmy arrogance (and ignorance).

    She was, perhaps, the worst political gimmick ever. Like a prize in the cereal box that worked to opposite effect.

    Only people who live in echo chambers can think like that. And there are lots of them. Wife of a good friend of mine made similarly ignorant comment at dinner a couple of weeks ago, saying how all of her friends thought Sarah to be an awful pick, and adding something smartass about the pic of her shooting an (Oh My God!) automatic weapon!

    My response - Alex, how many of your "friends" are not spoiled socialites or wannabe socialites who grew up in Buckhead? And, by the way, have you never been to a dove hunt?

    Answers (1)zero (2) of course, it's a socialite activity.

    Those "socialites" live in a completely insular world, different from Trish's only in the nature of its primary subject of discourse, but identical in their separation from knowing what grass roots people think/believe and why they think/believe it.

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  41. Obama would be a disaster in energy as in everything else. Wants to take coal off the table, but can't, just can't, seem to say the nuclear. Just like Dr. Bill says, he is talking the Congressional democrats energy policy.

    How are you going to replace coal fired without nuclear? You aren't.

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  42. Of course, the consumer will end up paying for all this cap and trade crap.

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  43. Rather than take those government checks Obama is going to send everybody to the casino, we'll have to spend them on heat and light.

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  44. 2164,

    Re: google video takedown - use the Firefox plugin Unplug or Downloadhelper to download the flash video's (.flv) that might "disappear". Then you can upload it to any of the alternative video hosting sites, or your own cheap $7/month shared hosting server and point your embedded link to your copy of the video. Then no more "disappearing". Also recommended for your favorite music videos - then you can enjoy them regardless of what happens to YouTube copy.

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  45. Line I'd like to hear from McPalin:

    "He promised you a Tax Cut?" Well, he promised us he'd take Public Financing." "Hope it works out better for you than it did for us."

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  46. :) Good line, Rufus.

    And, Obama/Biden seem to be bidding that "tax cut" ceiling down rapidly, and the election isn't even over yet.

    Star Tribune Poll: Coleman (R) 42%, Franken (D) 38%, Barkley (I) 18%

    Man, I sure hope Frankenstein loses. He ought to be in jail for tax evasion.

    Or, if not for that, for telling lousy jokes.

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  47. j willie,

    It is curious, to say the least, that one's dislike of any given candidate should give rise to responses such as, "Might be worth some introspection as to why that is." This isn't the first time. And it has only added to my running distemper with regard to the woman.

    Fundamentalist Christian who is neither very knowledgeable nor bright, but who exhibits a flamboyant homespun.

    Not my cup of tea, j willie.

    Not my cup of tea.

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  48. Spicules on the Sun

    Whatever else God may be, He seems artistic.

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  49. And I deemed the Weekly Standard a hopeless rag two years ago.

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  50. "flamboyant homespun" is good. Wish I had thought of that.

    Every man wants a woman that is "flamboyantly homespun".

    That's what most of us want, down deep.

    Then add looks, smarts, and knows, and you got a winner like Sarah!

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  51. The kibbitzers, on the other hand, are people with columns or who write books, who feel that their personal search for truth, a clever new analysis — or popularity — is the point of the exercise. "They write books, tell us what is wrong with conservatism, and scold the poor slobs who run campaigns. They lack any visceral sense of actual conservative voters"



    Which conservative voters would those be?

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  52. Trish, I can understand your concern that Sarah Palin is not very "knowledgeable" as pertains Washington Politics.

    But, pray-tell, from where cometh the "Not very Bright/Intelligent" meme?

    Has she done something incredibly stupid (such as plagiarizing some obscure British Politician's speech) that I'm not aware of? Did she suddenly find another 7 states, or somesuch?

    Or, is it just that she wasn't smart enough to have Ivy League Alumni for parents? Please, we'd like to know.

    It's her "moose-skinning technique," isn't it? She starts from the back instead of the front, right? Or, was it the large amount of money she saved the citizens of Alaska by throwing out the old pipeline deal, and cutting a new one?

    Please, what is it?

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  53. Here's a great ad.

    HELP SAVE WESTERN CIVILIZATION

    I Am My Brother's Keeper

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  54. It came from the blondes, Rufus, it's as simple as that.

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  55. Rufus,

    I watched her debate and have seen and read her interviews. The woman is as impressively sharp as...well, look, you don't need any more metaphors from me.

    Were I searching for a wife for my cousin, bob, I'd feel differently. The two would make a good pair. But I'm not.

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  56. Trish is a redhead. We KNOW all others are inferior.

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  57. Perhaps I am too much a beltway type at this point to revel in treacly hokum.

    I just don't know what everyone else's excuse is for not doing same.

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  58. Those "socialites" live in a completely insular world, different from Trish's only in the nature of its primary subject of discourse, but identical in their separation from knowing what grass roots people think/believe and why they think/believe it.

    Sun Nov 02, 03:31:00 PM EST

    That "insular world" of mine is the military community. My part of it is almost monolithically Republican and has been for quite some time.

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  59. Trish, our first "Civil" War was between the W. Pennsylvania "Moonshiner" Republicans, and the Back-East "Big-Money" Republicans.

    Nothing's changed.

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  60. At least dumb old Sarah got This One Right while Obama, Biden and Pelosi all flunked.

    It begins when it begins, the question is what value do we, who have the power, give it?

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  61. I was going to say something similar, rufus, just a tad more sardonic.

    A Republican in the military, a careerist, is a Federal Socialist.

    As exemplified by their actions in Iraq, where the Military holds Court. Where 95% of the infrastructure is government controlled, after six years of occupation.

    Without a privatization program ever even discussed.

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  62. A Republican in the military, a careerist, is a center-right Federal Socialist.

    That's all.

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  63. Senator Obama is hailed as a sort of “liberator” of oppressed people. Yet his promised liberation excludes an entire class of persons, our smallest neighbors in the first home of the whole human race, their mothers womb.

    He has pledged to sign the “Freedom of Choice Act” as his first act as President of the United States. That Act will open up the flow of fetal blood by removing every limiting restriction on the killing of innocent children in the womb.

    It will entrench abortion on demand through all nine months in the Federal Law and make this evil act enforceable by the Police Power of the State. All one has to do is read the legislation to discover that what I claim about FOCA is not hyperbole, it is fact.


    For the Children

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  64. Sarah On Women In America

    Endorsed by the LA NOW lady, biggest chapter in the USofA.

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  65. With regards to Mrs Palin, regardless of what one thinks of her, she outshines all the others.

    Not one of the other GOP candidates generated the emotion, pro or con, that Sarah does.

    Rudy, he performed dismally, both strategicly and tactically on the stump.

    Romney, he never generated a kilo-watt of excitement. It had little or nothing to do with his underwear. His tax increases were called personal health care expediture mandates, were still a tax increase of upwards of $12,000 per year, a mandated expediture. All because the Romney's nanny states you need it.

    Huckabee, he's come closest to being a winner, he's got a job and some facetime on a cable news network out of the deal.

    Fred Thompson, he forgot the script on the plane or sometin'.

    Ron Paul, came along with the right ideas, while they played him as comic relief.

    Sarah Palin, from no where, to holdig the GOP base of the Heartland in her palm.

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  66. "A Republican in the military, a careerist, is a Federal Socialist."

    As opposed to a man who loves serving his country.

    Thankless job, but someone's gotta do it.

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  67. While the rest of us jawbone.

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  68. Whoever knew that in the closing days of this administration I'd be getting in touch with my inner snob?

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  69. Talk about jawboning---

    Long, Long Article On Obama's Hidden Speaking Techniques--Claims He Is A Hypnotist

    hmmm, if uncle jerry were still around, I'd ask him what he thinks. He was a psychologist.
    ----

    Here's real 'jawboning'--

    15 And he(Samson) found a new jawbone of an ass, and put forth his hand, and took it, and slew a thousand men therewith.
    16 And Samson said, With the jawbone of an ass, heaps upon heaps, with the jaw of an ass have I slain a thousand men.
    17 And it came to pass, when he had made an end of speaking, that he cast away the jawbone out of his hand, and called that place Ramathlehi.

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  70. It's not your fault, Trish. It's the snob Obama bringing out your inner snob.

    Awareness is all.

    Recognize it, evaporate it.

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  71. (Rather than being given to spelling America with a 'k', as certain of us are wont to do, as Lang aptly put it, in the throwback manner of adolescents from the Seventies. I, however, am a child of Reagan - the adolescent era of penny loafers and Bermuda bags. We demure.)

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  72. A Federal Socialist can love his country, trish, even put it first.

    There is nothing intrinsicly wrong with that lifestyle and position. But it is an elitist one.
    The fancy dinners, the "inside" scoop.
    It is not unpatriotic, not at all, but it is not republican. At least not small "r" republican.

    There seems to be some dispute about what it means to be a big "R" Republican, though.

    A lot of Federal Socialists use the Republican Party, the same way Obama used both the Democratic and the New Party, in Chi-town. Simply a matter of marketing convience.

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  73. the Dennis Miller creepy vibes are spreading--

    361. Rob:


    I was a lifetime Democrat until I realized your judged by the company you keep. Homo Sexuals, terrorists, criminals, anti americans, communists, cheats, perverts, child molesters, payoffs, treason,abortions at ninth month. Then they attacked Joe the Plumber and anyone who qustions the messiah Obama. I could not handle it anymore my concience kept me awake and depressed. I will vote for McCain Palin they are decent honest all American. Obama is a liar a thug He hates america loves communists.


    Nov 1, 2008 - 2:08 pm

    362. Betty:


    I appeal to all voters for the truth. The Democrats are sexist and flat out mean. They destroyed Hillary a woman. Then they try to destroy Palin. The left wing lesbians and gays want to destroy any normal woman so they can promote their agenda. They want to destroy marriage and Christian beliefs. Before communists can take over they have to destroy morals and family then religion. Obama and the democrats are anti American communists. Look at cuba and third world countries this is what Obama offers


    Nov 1, 2008 - 2:10 pm

    363. Greg:


    agree Obama is a danger. I worked for the FBI anti terror unit for 25 years. All of Obama’s associates were under our watch. They are attached to world wide terror groups. Obama is a extreme left wing anti american constitution, He is far worse than Castro or Chavez. He received over $$$250 million fraud campaign donations from Iran and Saudi. Wake up america. If he is elected their would have to be a milatary coup to remove him. After 25 years as a counter terror expert I must warn America Obama is a enemy of your freedom and safety.


    Nov 1, 2008 - 2:11 pm

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  74. I'm a citizen of the United States, trish.
    Neither America nor Amerika hold my ideological underpinnings.

    I can see the benefits of the US gaining economic and cultural dominion over northern Mexico, possiblly over all of Mexico.

    I also see the migration of those Americans into the United States as unstoppable, now.

    Will the United States, when the blacks make up 15% of the population and the Mexicans 30%, be the America of the Civil War Republican spin miesters or the Amerika of LBJ's "War" on drugs, poverty, discrimination and Vietnamese communists.

    Neither of those marketing monikers constitute the republic of the United States of America.

    Even the CIA tells the tale, accurately:

    Country name:
    conventional long form:
    United States of America
    conventional short form:
    United States
    abbreviation: US or USA


    My sworn allegience is to the United States and the Constitution,, not any kind of America, regardless of the spelling.

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  75. We've found Auntie Zeitumi, but where is Uncle Omar?

    What a damned zoo.

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  76. "He is far worse than Castro or Chavez."

    And here I thought *I* was the threat to national security. According to Rat. I AM relieved to hear otherwise.

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  77. We'll become the United States of the walled compound and the self segregated. We are becoming that now.

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  78. I took that oath, too, Rat.

    That makes, oh, five of us here.

    Only one of us has spelled America with a 'k'.

    I just left the 'b' out of 'dumber.'

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  79. rat, you've been on this rant about Socialism for a few weeks now. I think you have a misconception as to what socialism is. Government intervention in the markets is not socialism, having a military is not socialist. or, as Rick Salutin said on friday:

    "Let's start with this. Socialism is not defined by state intervention in an economy. All states intervene in the economy, the United States more than most. It busts open foreign markets, fights for global resources (such as oil), controls labour militancy, develops new products (such as the Internet), which it then hands off to business. Above all, its military spending fuels its economy, and has for generations. Bank bailouts fit like a hand in a glove.

    Okay, what about "spreading the wealth"? Not socialism either, within clear limits. Larry King asked John McCain this week whether a graduated income tax isn't (a sort of socialist) redistribution. The McCain reply was: Yes it is and no it's not.

    snip

    And what is socialism? Well, Mr. Obama said this week that he expects to be called socialist because he shared his toys in kindergarten. It was a clever deflection of the charge but it's also a good start. Maybe the dybbuk speaks through him, too. Socialism is essentially social. It's based on a belief that we're responsible for and indebted to each other - including past generations. So sharing isn't a choice, it's our nature. Therefore, roughly speaking, everyone is equally entitled to basics such as jobs, homes, health and education - especially kids. State intervention in the service of that vision would count as socialism. There might be non-governmental forms, too. Eventually, the state might "wither away," as Marx said, but that mutual responsibility never would."

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  80. http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20081030.wcosalutin31/BNStory/usElection2008

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  81. According to ME?

    What ever gave you that idea.

    Your husband will continue to serve if a President Obama becomes CiC, fully and faithfully, I am sure.

    Unless he were to believe that such subservient service was in violation of his oath to protect and defend the Constitution. If that were to be the case, I'm sure he'd resign, but not become a rouge in uniform, operating illegally, he and a cadre of other officers planning a coup or some shadow military chain of command.

    Any more than Smedley Butler thought that FDR was a non-Constituional authority and so be justified to take action against his administration.

    As to patriotic Federal Socialists, there are lots and lots of them. Especially Federal Government careerists.

    They just are not a central part of Sarah Palin's "real" America.

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  82. DR, love the "Federal Socialist" tag, and you took the words right off my fingertips wrt the elitist position/lifestyle of a career military officer's family. That's why its so much like the socialite's - an elitist, insular world pretty much devoid of contact with regular folks and from which the inhabitants can look down disdainfully at those regular folks (like Sarah Palin).

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  83. A LOT of help you were, ash.

    Ignoring the polite request to disappear him for awhile.

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  84. When the Government hold that it has title to the property of the folk, ash, that is socialism.

    When the government demands that private corporations sell the Government a preferred ownership stake in their operations, that is socialism.

    A progressive, graduated income tax, that is socialism. It does not treat each individual equally, but by economic class, A means testing for payment. That is socialism.

    Yhat others, perhaps you, want to call socialism something else, a rose by any other name, smells as sweet.

    And a fish, it rots from the head, no matter what you call it.

    Obama's socialism differs only in small degree from McCain's.

    The only non-Socialist tax proposal I've heard, that was to take the income limits off of FICA taxes. To tax all earned income, equally

    As it should be.

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  85. Here's one conservative woman's opinion of Palin:

    "Sarah Palin, femme fatale

    MARGARET WENTE

    mwente@globeandmail.com

    E-mail Margaret Wente | Read Bio | Latest Columns
    October 23, 2008

    Sarah Palin drives men wild. At her rallies, they show up by the thousands. They wave handmade signs that say "Dudes for Sarah," and buttons that say "Proud to be voting for a hot chick." Sometimes, they outnumber women 2 to 1. "Marry me!" they yell.

    What is it about some men? All a gal needs is high heels, big hair and a pretty face and they lose their doggone minds. Add a saucy dash of right-wing politics and they'll become your love slave. Look at Barbara Amiel or Ann Coulter.

    Or the Fox News babes. They've all got that sexy dominatrix thing going. Men who vote conservative can't get enough of it.

    That must explain why John McCain and his campaign managers and all those balding middle-aged guys at the Weekly Standard fell so hard for Sarah Palin. She's the greatest Republican femme fatale of all time. When she goes on about guns and God in those fabulous high heels of hers, she makes their hearts beat so fast. As Jane Mayer relates in this week's New Yorker, all it took was one encounter in the governor's mansion in Alaska, and the guys were smitten.


    "She's a former beauty pageant contestant and a real honey, too," one bedazzled pundit wrote. Another couldn't help noting that she was "exceptionally pretty." A (male) Newsweek writer described her as "a mix between Annie Oakley and Joan of Arc." It didn't matter that she'd only been governor for a few months. She was a moose-hunting fertility goddess! It was these men who talked her up and up, and got her on the list, even though she didn't have the résumé. By the time Mr. McCain picked her for vice-president, he'd spent less than three hours in her company. But hey! Rush Limbaugh had called her "a babe."

    Conservative pundit William Kristol, the most vigorous Palin-promoter of them all, referred to her on Fox TV as "my heartthrob."

    Phew. Can you imagine any man being vetted in such a way? Can you imagine any serious person gushing over any male candidate in those terms? I thought not.

    But now, cosmic justice has been done. The Palin bounce has turned into a lead balloon. This comes as a relief to those of us who were accused of mad, cattish jealousy for being horrified. Fifty-five per cent of voters now think Ms. Palin isn't qualified to be president. Her lack of qualifications is their top concern about Mr. McCain's candidacy - ahead of the economy, Iraq and everything else. Her negatives are strongest among women under 50 - the very people she was supposed to attract. Newspapers that have endorsed Republicans for 40 years are stampeding to endorse Barack Obama. Their main reason? Sarah Palin.

    Mr. Obama's lead is now so commanding that, unless someone can prove he was behind 9/11, he wins. Thank you, Sarah! The trouble with Ms. Palin isn't simply that she's ignorant and badly educated. She has a vindictive streak and an enemies list six miles long. She abused her power as governor. Her current campaign, as commentator Andrew Sullivan says, marks a new low in "pure, content-free identity politics."

    "She doesn't think aloud. She just ... says things," wrote Peggy Noonan, the respected Wall Street Journal columnist. "The Palin candidacy is a symptom and expression of a new vulgarization in American politics. It's no good, not for conservatism and not for the country."

    And so, Sarah Palin will go down in history as the first vice-presidential candidate who ever mattered to the outcome. Mr. McCain's still sticking up for her, but, really, what else can he do? "I think she's the most qualified of anyone recently who has run for vice-president," he said the other day. Do I feel sorry for him? Not a bit. Men who fall for femmes fatales generally get what they deserve. And generally, they wind up ruined"

    http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20081030.wcosalutin31/BNStory/usElection2008

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  86. I think it is you Rat who has a misconception of what Socialim is:

    socialism
    Dictionary.com Unabridged (v 1.1) - Cite This Source - Share This
    so·cial·ism /ˈsoʊʃəˌlɪzəm/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[soh-shuh-liz-uhm] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
    –noun 1. a theory or system of social organization that advocates the vesting of the ownership and control of the means of production and distribution, of capital, land, etc., in the community as a whole.
    2. procedure or practice in accordance with this theory.
    3. (in Marxist theory) the stage following capitalism in the transition of a society to communism, characterized by the imperfect implementation of collectivist principles

    http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/socialism

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  87. Robert Frost said long ago, a quote I've always liked, we have an income tax, don't we? then we're socialist. The question is, how much.

    Enough is enough, in my view. We're at enough, now.

    Palin strongly supports the military.

    That's one of the things the federal government must do.

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  88. Like Hoover, McCain has also demonstrated a political ineptness that has all but obliterated the more positive aspects of his record. As political commentators have repeatedly pointed out, the rhetorical strategies of the Republicans and the McCain campaign, whether it is “Joe the plumber” or smear tactics, cannot disguise the fact that both the party and its candidate are as out of touch with the common man and bread and butter issues in 2008 as they were in 1932.

    The recent McCain-Palin mantra of accusing Obama of socialist and “resdistributionist” ideas also mimic the Republican criticism of yesteryears of the New Deal programs. And if McCain is the 2008 version of Herbert Hoover, then his running mate Sarah Palin is surely a modern day incarnation of all the populist right-wing nut jobs of the 1930s, like Father Coughlin who haunted America’s air waves like she haunts our televisions.

    On a more serious note though, her campaign of innuendo and intolerance imitates the worst of a bygone era. If history is any guide, the McCain-Palin ticket deserves to lose.


    FDR & Hoover?

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  89. There's hard socialism and soft socialism Ash, you know that. And in between socialism. Don't worry about a dictionary definition.

    If the government takes your money, they in effect own part of your means of production. They may not have title to the land, but they get part of the produce from the sweat of the brows of the others.

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  90. This business of Obama sending checks in the mail to all and sundry isn't going to do a thing.
    If people can't save, they can't save.

    Buy a casino, most of the mail money will end up there.

    Obama is just trying to buy votes.

    "See here, Luigi, we'll get the poor hooked on the dole, and lead 'em by the nose, and take the country."

    If we want to improve medical care in the country, it would make a lot more sense to invest all this 'free' money in more medical schools.

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  91. The new bailout plan will be administered according to the recently passed $700 billion federal bailout legislation. Although there are provisions against golden parachutes for banking executives, among other restrictions, it does nothing to rein in the kind of behavior that caused the financial crisis in the first place.

    One thing remains the same: regardless of how much money the government invests, the bailout plan still allows bankers to be in charge of bank policies, for better or, as we have seen recently, for worse. It's not socialism that we're getting or socialism that we have to fear, but unregulated capitalism.

    Capitalism got us into this mess, and we are counting on government-backed capitalism to get us out of it.


    Far Cry from Socialism

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  92. a theory or system of social organization that advocates the vesting of the ownership and control of the means of production and distribution, of capital, land, etc., in the community as a whole.


    The Federal Government, ash, holds title to over 70% of the land, in AZ. Across the West and Alaska that is the situation. Check the link for a visual graphic representation.

    The Federal Socialist community owns the land. Granted,, in the Eastern States, where the Federals did not dominate, early on in the Republic the land is more privately controlled.

    Distribution -the Federal InterState Highway System is Federally controlled.

    Amtrack, in a word.

    Control of Capital - the Nationalization of the nine major banks stands as evidence there, Forcing the banks to sell a preferred interest to the Federals.

    Means of production - they are still working upon that, but there are many. many public/private "partnerships", with more on the way.

    That both Joe the Plumbers boss and Cindy McCain both pay in excess of 30% of their income to the Federals, that is control.

    The US is a socialist country, ash, as per your definition.

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  93. I think rather than having the government, or the 'people', into the means of production, the means of production should be as widely spread as possible. Grow the middle class.

    Property has this advantage, it can get the government, and other people, off your back, so you can live your own life.

    A community is one thing, a commune something else.

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  94. given that last post of yours Sam you might appreciate a middle paragraph in that Rick Salutin piece:

    "I'd say it's because it was never those socialists who kept the spectre of socialism alive. It was capitalism itself! Karl Marx wrote relatively little on socialism, just a few evocative hints in his callow (or not so callow) youth. But he exhausted himself analyzing capitalism. His argued that capitalism leads inevitably to crisis - a terse term for massive human wreckage - that leads inevitably to a search for better ways to organize economies, which will be, in some form, socialist. It's all dialectical as hell (Marx said), and if there's not a socialist in sight, capitalism will still continue to produce the spectre of socialism along with its nightmarish crises."

    http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20081030.wcosalutin31/BNStory/usElection2008

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  95. Well, we're a mixed bag, is what we are.

    Long Live The National Forests! :)

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  96. So, Rat, embrace you inner socialist and submit to socialisms supremecy! I guess it just isn't a very dirty word.

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  97. The bankers are not in charge of their banks, sam. Regardless of your man's writing.

    The Regulators control the banks management. Through the ability to pull their Charter. That the banks were unregulated, in practice, for so long does not mean the method of control is not there, just that it has not been fully utilized.

    That is one reason all 9 major banks sold those prefered equities.

    Ask any banker. They'll tell you.

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  98. And of course Marx got it mostly wrong.

    Much of Marx is religious apocalypticism in another disguise.

    The battle of light and dark, the overcoming of evil, the final battles, the promised land just over the next horizon or two or three.

    The Chinese seem to be having the good sense to mostly chuck it. As the Russians have done.

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  100. The holy remnant, the pure ones- the Bolsheviks-those of the secret knowledge- leading the proletariate onward to the sacred future through the final battle.


    blah

    Lord Acton knew better.

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  101. Government is not a solution to our problem, government is the problem.

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  102. The Government hold title to ALL the land, bob.

    Do not pay the property taxes due on YOUR land and see who ends up owning it.

    Betcha an Amero to a doughnut, it wouldn't be YOU, in four years.

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  103. And even "He" grew the Federal Government, sam.

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  104. “If you don’t change direction you’ll end up where you’re going.”
    -Chinese proverb

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  106. I tell you we will win this thing!

    Mason-Dixon survey in Ohio, the state that gave George W. Bush victory in 2004, recorded a surprise two-point advantage for the Republican.
    Mr McCain has just finished a two-day bus tour through the state, which the Republican has to win if he is to have a chance.
    He is scheduled to visit a staggering seven states today, holding a series of rallies mostly in airport hangers in a bid to hit local television news bulletins.
    The 72-year-old Vietnam War veteran showed on Sunday he was in no mood for quitting. "There are just two days left, two days," he told a raucous crowd in Wallingford, Pennsylvania.
    "We are a couple of points behind in Pennsylvania. The pundits have written us off just like before, but, my friends, the Mac is back!"
    It came as Mr Obama was also making a last push to carry the traditional swing territory.

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  107. How The Times followed a trail to find Barack Obama’s aunt


    Those intriguing passages in Mr Obama’s book were first investigated by The Times during a visit to Kenya in September to interview members of the family, including “Granny Sarah”. Inquiries as to the current whereabouts of Omar elicited only vague responses – and even the suggestion, from a full brother of the missing man, that no such person existed.

    This triggered a six-week search, one that would lead eventually to Boston and to Aunt Zeituni. Public record searches found traces of O. Onyango Obama, Uncle Omar’s real name, in Boston. A friend and a former landlady said that he now uses the name Obama Onyango.

    In the course of searching for Uncle Omar The Times found a Zeituni Onyango, who also played a prominent part in Mr Obama’s book.

    The Times called the Zeituni Onyango in Boston three times. The first time a woman said that she “went to California”. The second time a woman said: “She died last summer.” The third time a woman said in French that she did not know her at that address.

    On visiting the housing estate, however, neighbours confirmed that she was indeed the “Auntie Zeituni” in Mr Obama’s book – as she eventually confirmed herself.

    Uncle Omar has still not been found.

    It was not until Wednesday evening that The Times obtained a formal identification of Ms Onyango by George Hussein, Mr Obama’s half-brother who had known her throughout his childhood.

    Whatever the Democrat campaign may imply, there is nothing suspicious about the story or its timing. The only mystery, perhaps, is how so many people read Mr Obama’s book in the US without wondering what might have happened to the mysterious relative, lost in America.

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  108. But it’s a non-story because John does not want to bring up the *I* word.

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  109. Damn, that chart, Uncle Sam basically owns Nevada. The aliens have gotta be there.

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  110. I know about the taxes, Rat:) Here, it's four years. No pay, takee away. Then, they sell it to cover the tax lien. The county is not in the land ownership business.

    Another thing about old Karl Marx, he denied transcendence. Even if he hadn't his definition of what a human being is or might be was a little restricted.

    He caused a lot of trouble. The Russians got rid of the czar, then got saddled with the commisar. Been better if the social democrats could have held on.

    Go Pennslyvania, go Ohio!

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  112. The County is in the land rental business, bob.

    That's what those taxes represent, the rental value of the property, to the State.

    So do not pay the rent, lose your leasehold

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  113. The County is in the land rental business, Banking Business, Real Estate Business, Hospital Business, Stock Business, Futures Business, Hedge Fund Business, and etc, LaBob.

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  114. In Oz:

    Property owner Mark Fiora said land tax on one of his investments had increased from $4221 last year to $25,480 this year – a 500 per cent increase.

    "Valuations were 30 per cent below and they have brought them right up to value," he said.

    "I don't have a problem with that, but when it goes up 14 times, there is something wrong."


    Perfect Storm

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  115. Then that SCOTUS case, Kelo v. City of New London, where the use of eminent domain to transfer land from one private owner to another to further economic development was made legal.

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  116. Put it that way if you want. The farmland taxes are low, we need the county road grader, an ambulance, fire department, I don't mind. You got to watch like hell if you develope something though, or you'll end up like I almost did, from $14.95 to $5,300 something. That's why you want to vote for Republican country commissioners, who can overturn it based on the Idaho Code, and folks like Palin and McCain.

    Never trust an assessor I can testify.

    The assessor came by here the other day. Taxes should go down, as home prices have fallen.

    We'll see.

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  117. Kelo is terrible, but the good old Idaho legislature reaffirmed our rights here.

    Kelo sucks. Another reason to vote against a turd like Obama.

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  118. It's going to be a long night Tuesday night.

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  119. 5 found dead near the 405 in Long Beach
    Police say the victims, who were staying in a makeshift homeless encampment, were killed by gunfire.
    ---
    Shoulda pitched their tent in Pakistan, they mighta had a chance.

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  120. My sister probly drives by every day.

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  121. To edit westhawk, a tad:

    If a country shows little effort or ability to control the lawless activity occurring inside a portion of its territory, it can hardly claim sovereignty over that ground. So goes the argument ... for ... a doctrine we might call “forfeited sovereignty.” ... that ... has justified this ... Syrian ... raid, and raids into Pakistan.

    Sounds like the 405 or the whole of the southern border, really.
    With 3,000 infiltrations per day, that's “forfeited sovereignty”, no doubt of it.

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  122. McCain has cut
    Obama's Virginia lead in half.

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  123. another MSM jackass:

    The Youth Vote Could Change History - Anna Quindlen, Newsweek

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  124. It's all about momentum and the timing of it, 2164th. And McCain's got it.

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  125. The Investors Business Daily TIPP poll still has nearly 9% undecided.

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  126. Hell 'Rat, I never thot of it that way:
    We may have lost California, but we've gained some Syrian Desert.
    What a deal.

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  127. Said somebody made a website like that for Tuscon, 'Rat.

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  128. Attorney General Menachem Mazuz ruled Sunday that outgoing Prime Minister Ehud Olmert can hold a fifth round of Turkish-mediated talks with Syria even though he is head of a transitional government. Mazuz rejected Likud party objections to Olmert's authority but also stated that Olmert has no power to conclude an agreement.

    ...

    However, Mazuz's restrictions on the government were couched in general terms of "restraint and moderation."

    The Prime Minister's office denied one media report that he has promised Syrian President Bashar Assad to cede all of the strategic Golan Heights, a move which would require approval by an absolute majority of the Knesset. Likud Knesset member Limor Livnat said that she would appeal the Attorney General's ruling to the High Court although Mazuz based his ruling on a High Court decision in 2001.


    Knesset Court

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  129. stand up and fight for America intead of making a fundamental change to America in Obama's image. Who the hell does that Obama think he is? WTF has he ever done for America?

    Can you imagine?

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  130. "He's running for redistributor-in-chief, I'm running for commander-in-chief"

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  131. Tucson, from the beginning of the modern, Anglo development.

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  132. There were 100 infiltrations across that Iraqi/Syrian border, monthly.

    3,000 daily across the US/Mexico border.

    Where has sovereignty been forfeited, really?

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  133. He ran for the Senate in 2004 and won as representative of Illinois. He took an active role in the Senate's drive for improved border security and immigration reform.

    The Moro people in the Philippines and the blacks in America share many parallel experiences being both minorities and both seeking affirmative action from government. A considerable minority, Muslims in the Philippines, who number at least five million, have only had less than five of their own elected to the Senate.

    And there has never been any president or vice president in the Philippines who is a Muslim.


    Hopes on Obama

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  134. A moment later, he was tying the Arizona senator to the economic and foreign affairs policies of the Bush administration.

    “President Bush is sitting out the last few days before the election,” he said in Columbus. “But yesterday Dick Cheney came out of his undisclosed location.

    “Don’t need to boo. You just need to vote,” he said in response to the crowd’s reaction.


    Pulling Out the Stops in Ohio

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  135. "I'll Make Your Energy Prices Skyrocket"--Obama

    This is quite strange. It's hard to see how anyone could vote for this man.

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  136. You know, when I was asked earlier about the issue of coal, uh, you know — Under my plan of a cap and trade system, electricity rates would necessarily skyrocket. Even regardless of what I say about whether coal is good or bad. Because I’m capping greenhouse gases, coal power plants, you know, natural gas, you name it — whatever the plants were, whatever the industry was, uh, they would have to retrofit their operations. That will cost money. They will pass that money on to consumers.

    Obama

    "I will make your energy prices skyrocket."

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  137. I've never seen anything like it.

    I'm gonna tax you to death.

    I'm gonna ruin your coal industry.

    I'm gonna make your energy costs skyrocket.

    And you know I'm gonna take your guns.

    And trash your Constitution.

    I've atheists and America haters all around me and a terrorist wrote my books.

    How can this guy get two votes?

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  138. Ayers....

    a REAL Murderer....

    REALLY....

    Rashid Khalidi

    Spokesperson for REAL Jew murderers & American murderers

    REALLY

    Wright

    A Jew hating, White hating, Hamas Loving, Black Values, Vlack Racist...

    REALLY

    Farrakhan....

    Need I continue?

    REALLY

    How do you GO from HARVARD to (like a laser) a place called Hyde Park....

    REALLY....

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  139. While other news sources covered Ted Stevens's felony conviction and the credit crisis, "Fox & Friends" remained fixated on a bizarre local interview Joe Biden gave over three days before, in which he was asked, "How is Obama not being a Marxist?" The midday shows focused obsessively on ACORN and media bias.

    Sean Hannity's Bill Ayers mania continued. Fox truly felt like an alternate universe.

    Instead of being a cheerleader for John McCain or the Republican Party or the United States, the channel appeared interested only in raising conservatives' blood pressure. With conservatism fighting for its life, one of its key outlets spends its days venting to the like-minded.


    Fox News

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  140. Ah, it's just frustrating, Sam, that people don't seem to care how close Ayers is to Obama and that he's a true killer.

    The fact Obama admitted to all that hard drug use, that would have done in a Republican candidate. A democratic one too, a few years ago.

    The country is changing for the worse.

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  141. 359. Believer:


    Bugsy — are you one of BO’s supporters who’re supposed to pretend they’re more moderate than they really are? I understand this is one of his new tactics.

    The “get in their faces” turned kind of ugly there didn’t it? Are you trying to soften it now?

    BO knows best all the Alinsky tactics. The ones Alinsky dedicated to LUCIFER. BO was one of his best students - even teaching his methods. “The end justifies the means.” You believe that?

    Do you want to bring all the corruption and chaos that is Chicago - and where BO has been entrenched for decades - to the rest of the country?

    Some of us don’t. We don’t like that BO sends his thugs out to intimidate those who get in his way - those who jeopardize his chances of winning. The list grows longer:

    Talk to Hillary supporters - they’re not too happy with the way they were treated. Those caucuses allowed him to cheat and steal the nomination.

    Talk to Freddoso who knows his thugs well. They tried to distrupt his radio interview to share what he’d learned from his research and wrote in his book.

    Talk to Jerome Corsi who tasted some ugliness in Kenya. He was held incommunicado for a day there without food — not allowed to hold the news conference to reveal what he’d learned.

    Talk to Joe the Plumber. A Democrat maxed ($2300) donor to BO’s campaign ordered his records opened when he had the temerity to ask BO the wrong question.

    Talk to Barbara West - one member of the media who asked Joe Biden the wrong question. She’s out of a job now.

    Talk to those media outlets that didn’t endorse BO for president. They’ve just learned they’ve been tossed from his plane.

    Oh, it’ll get worse. Especially if he gets more power. You can count on it, I’m sure.


    Nov 1, 2008 - 11:44 am

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  142. Thanks for that Tucson link, Doug. Both my daughters have lived in that neighborhood in the not too distant past.

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  144. Correction. Thanks to dr for the Tucson link.

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  145. Linear,

    Correction, my sister lives near Signal Hill, not Bunker Hill!

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  146. Union thuggery, corruption, violence, intimidation, bribery, kickbacks, threats, murder and economic assaults,theft of elections and theft is what American unions do best.

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  147. I wish we'd made it back there, would have been interesting to watch the goings on.

    The .45 automatic, the plumber's friend.

    Such negative sentiments will quickly be magnified when the Messiah, like Bill Clinton before him, goes back on his campaign promise to cut taxes on 95 percent of Americans, and instead announces -- possibly in less than a month -- that taxes will have to be raised for the majority of wage earners.


    What will be the catalyst for this decision? The exploding budget deficit, of course.


    After all, the fiscal 2009 budget projects unified revenues (including Social Security and Medicare) of $2.7 trillion, and unified expenditures of $3.1 trillion. However, these numbers assume a 2.2 percent growth in the Gross Domestic Product and 5.6 percent unemployment.


    Hello? McFly?


    We're currently at 6.1 percent unemployment, which will certainly go much higher in the coming months, likely stopping in the eights if we're lucky. And, as the recession has certainly started, 2.2 percent growth in FY '09 seems highly-doubtful. As such, $2.7 trillion in tax receipts might be a very aggressive forecast.


    Maybe more important, $3.1 trillion in projected expenditures doesn't include the $700 billion (and counting!) allocated to bailing out failed financial institutions. This means that for the first time since World War II, America will spend 40 percent more than it collects creating a budget deficit almost guaranteed to be in excess of $1 trillion...and everybody in Washington knows it.


    With this in mind, the talk coming from Democrats like House Financial Services Committee Chairman Barney Frank that tax cuts may have to be postponed next year due to the recession is a lot of pre-election hooey. These folks want higher taxes, and with the Messiah in command, they're gonna get 'em.


    Yet, Obama has promised low income voters who don't currently pay federal taxes that they're going to get checks to offset their property and state taxes...and that's a promise this socialist is gonna keep.


    You betcha!


    As a result, most Americans, in a slowing economy that's making them fearful for their jobs and their futures, will see their income taxes rise as Obama supporters receive checks largely funded by McCain supporters. And that's likely when things will really begin getting ugly, for the class warfare that Obama-Biden have been playing during this campaign will cease being only figurative.


    To paraphrase Guido the Killer Pimp from the film "Risky Business," in a sluggish economy, never, ever mess with a man's livelihood.


    But that's what the Messiah is going to do, and as a result a lot of normally non-violent folks who "cling to guns or religion" are going to really be feeling "antipathy to people who aren't like them," just not for the reasons Obama believes.

    Say Goodbye To America

    Wonder what the stock market will do today.

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  148. To paraphrase Guido the Killer Pimp from the film "Risky Business," in a sluggish economy, never, ever mess with a man's livelihood.

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  149. What a hoot. We're going to bankrupt the coal industry and tax the utilities to death over CO2 when we don't know for sure what the deal is with global warming. While not going for the only thing that can replace it, nuclear.

    What a hoot.

    Hoot
    Hoot
    Hoot

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  150. Bob,

    Any reason why da homeboy is swinging his arms and hands like dat?

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  151. You got me there, Mat. He seems to be talking the talk, though.

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  152. "evaporative economics"

    :)

    I like that guy.

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  153. Sam said...
    "He's running for redistributor-in-chief, I'm running for commander-in-chief"



    Naw, they are both running to be manager of the Empire working for...


    ...I'll let you fill in the blanks.

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  154. Bob,

    As you know, we've "high graded" everything. We took and best and easiest first. Right now, solar and wind are almost at parity with coal, but I wonder if that takes into consideration the future price of coal. It's going to get harder and much more expensive to get at the coal. Are people taking that into consideration?

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  155. Bobal: I'm gonna tax you to death.

    I'm gonna ruin your coal industry.

    I'm gonna make your energy costs skyrocket.

    And you know I'm gonna take your guns.

    And trash your Constitution.

    I've atheists and America haters all around me and a terrorist wrote my books.

    How can this guy get two votes?


    Because the alternative is going to stay in Iraq for 100 years.

    And he was a cheerleader for a $840 billion dollar tax money grab.

    And the Pubs already trashed the Fourth Amendment (unreasonable search - warrantless wiretaps) and Eighth Amendment (cruel and unusual punishment - waterboarding)

    And McCain opposes drilling in ANWR.

    And McCain supports Don't Ask Don't Tell.

    That's worth a few votes bobal.

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  156. "theft is what American unions do best."
    ---
    Worked w/my friend building Spec Homes @Northstar
    (North of Lake Tahoe)
    There was only one highway in and out of the place, so ordinary criminals tended not to venture there, since there would be no escape if Police got a call.
    Didn't the Union guys from shooting out the Windows.
    Punks, all.

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  157. "Didn't STOP the Union guys from shooting out the Windows."

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  158. T's had another political sex-change.

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  159. ...maybe you should try a REAL Change, T, and having worked that out, your political views would exit the Chaos Zone.

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  160. I warned Bob. And that bumper sticker on the forehead would've been so apt. :(

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  161. Vote for Vote for the America-Hating, Racist Demagogue.

    ...that'll get the job done.

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  162. "Naw, they are both running to be manager of the Empire..."

    Ash wins a prize.

    Where's my stola and palla?

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  163. that'll get the job done.
    ==

    The oil and car mafia bankrolling CNN and the MSM seem to think so.

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  164. Guys, T is right. There's not a hell of a lot of difference between these two clowns. We survived Carter; we'll survive Obama.

    Don't forget, when you get through rooting for "the tribe" mcCain remains an idiot, and a power-seeking politician.

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  165. And happy birthday, this lovely Monday, to my favorite Republican Federal Socialist. Somewhere over the Gulf of Mexico about now.

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  166. On a dyke blog someone asked me a question whether I would support Sarah Palin if she was a man.

    Of course I can find a whole slew of men with more executive experience than Sarah Palin's two years as governor of Alaska.

    If I was on the crew selection board for the seventh shuttle mission, and the name Sally Ride came up, I imagine there would be a lot of objections along the lines of "Well, she was never on Gemini or Apollo. Let's go with someone more experienced."

    Today, shuttle crews are routinely of mixed genders and it doesn't even rate a mention, all because of Sally Ride.

    In twenty years women will routinely be on the national ticket, just as they are routinely elected governors with a collective yawn from the electorate. Today a woman on the ticket is a big deal. Sarah Palin could be the "Sally Ride" of Presidential politics.

    But no, she's a conservative Christian who thinks a baby is a gift rather than a burden, so the NOW crowd and Emily's List will go with Joe "Hoof in Mouth" Biden and put off that wonderful day when women are routinely on the ticket for yet another eight years. But that's no surprise, because that same crew, including Hillary, supported Bubba when he was chasing every skirt that came near the White House, all because he talked the Talk.

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  167. Doug: ...maybe you should try a REAL Change, T, and having worked that out, your political views would exit the Chaos Zone.

    Doug, shut up, I'm voting Bob Barr. It is possible to criticize McCain without automatically flipping to Obama. It's called "third party".

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  168. Tess,

    Is Barr talking about spending cut?

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  169. Peter Schiff is talking on the problems of the US political system on CNBC right now.

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  170. His basic msg, USD will be worthless unless cuts in spending are enacted.

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  171. Trish,

    You should check out Nial Ferguson's book "Colassus -The Rise and Fall of the American Empire". I'm just starting it but I thought of you while reading it. Given your current position and your family history I thought you might find it particularly interesting. It's not typical liberal claptrap about empire and how its baaaad. Rather he's a good historian who makes some good points.

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  172. Thanks, ash. I read and have The Pity of War.

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  173. T's had another political sex-change.

    yup

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