COLLECTIVE MADNESS


“Soft despotism is a term coined by Alexis de Tocqueville describing the state into which a country overrun by "a network of small complicated rules" might degrade. Soft despotism is different from despotism (also called 'hard despotism') in the sense that it is not obvious to the people."

Sunday, September 24, 2006

Clinton Frothing at the Mouth


Drudge said unhinged. You have to see this on FOX. Clinton almost lost it. He was hanging over Chris Wallace, jabbing his finder, eyes blazing, a rat-ta-tat barrage of words and accusations. FOX should have done a split screen showing heart beats and blood pressure. Wallace was cool, Clinton not. I can only imagine what it was like working for the man. See Whit's earlier post .Clinton Wags the Finger at Chris Wallace

287 comments:

  1. Clinton's gonna sue. He said to his lawyer:

    "Go out there and win one for the zipper!"

    But seriously, kudos to Bill for keeping several news cycles all about 9/11 in the run up to November.

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  2. On the night of their first victory,on a stage at a Washington rally with Fleetwooed Mac in the background playing "Don't Stop, Thinking About Tomorrow",
    I noticed an expression Hillary flashed to Bill.
    It was an expression that said to me, "Do you believe we did it?"
    Together they had Slick Willie, backed by a Lady Macbeth taken the reins of power.
    Glib,smart, and daring to "get caught" we had a pair in the White House with enough psychosis' to challenge the psychiatric profile of Charles Manson.
    We are still paying the price for Bill, Hillary, and Jimmy the C.

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  3. Habu1,

    Thanks for recollectin' that "Colours" moment. At that same time, we had "read my lips" on our side from a guy we thought was really smart and honest, and obviously dedicated, who apparently didn't quite believe in the magic of his predecessor.

    Remember when our chief economist, David, asserted it was "voodo economics?"

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  4. Things are changing in Europe.This is real tangible progress.

    From the BBC:

    Swiss 'back tighter asylum laws'

    "Illegal immigrants queuing
    Asylum seekers will be expected to produce ID within 48 hours
    Swiss voters have backed plans to make it harder for asylum-seekers to get into the country, projections indicate.

    The government says the new legislation will reduce abuse of the asylum system, but the UN says it could lead to breaches of refugees' rights.

    The laws would require asylum-seekers to have valid identity papers.

    They would also cut welfare payments to those whose applications are rejected, and introduce up to two years detention for those awaiting deportation."

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  5. Then there is this

    "... CLINTON: What did I do? What did I do? I worked hard to try to kill him. I authorized a finding for the CIA to kill him. We contracted with people to kill him. I got closer to killing him than anybody has gotten since. And if I were still president, we'd have more than 20,000 troops there trying to kill him. ..."

    Now, I've never criticized President Bush, and I don't think this is useful. But you know we do have a government that thinks Afghanistan is only one-seventh as important as Iraq. ..."


    There is more to this tirade than meets the eye, initially. There is a lot of stuff between the lines, that FOX did not promote in the run up to the airing of the interview.

    There is what 47 days, now?

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  6. I think what's Killin Bill is not so much the fiddle-farted responses to AQ, but that he knows history is going to show Monica, Bill, and OBL in an indelible porno-cartoon three-way for all eternity.

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  7. and he's the sucka, the john, paying up to pass diseases back and forth between the other two. history's shorthand.

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  8. "... WASHINGTON -- Hamid Karzai called for more money to stabilize Afghanistan, saying Sunday his country would be "heaven in less than a year" if his country received the $300 billion the United States had spent in Iraq. ..."

    Afghan President Calls for More Aid

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  9. And if OBL is a symbol, Monica is no less a symbol--what was--is--wrong in America, the turning of freedom into license, of authority into celebrity 9and vice-versa).

    If Monica symbolizes an American disease, and OBL a world disease, then Bill triangulates into some other sort of symbol, use yo imagination.

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  10. rat, Karzai sounds like Haley Barbour, referring to Louisiana.

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  11. The latest NIE,as reported by the NYT, quotes numerous "unnamed sources" as saying that the war in Iraq has increased the global terrorist threat.
    Of course this statement is absurd to anyone who lived through the last 30 years as an adult. Munich,Black September,Red Brigades,Black Panthers,Grey Wolves,Baader-Meinhof. The list is endless.
    All the Iraq War did was exposed a suppurtating carbuncle of world terrorism. It would have had to have been faced by the civilized world at some point.
    Go ahead,take a look at what we face outside of the AQ world.

    http://www.cdi.org/terrorism/terrorist-groups.cfm

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  12. geoffgo,

    yes and how disappointing was "read my lips". Of course to put it in it's proper context one must remember that George H.W. had cut a deal with the Socialist Democrats on cutting spending.
    As sson as his lips moved they reneged on the deal and had their campaign, "It's the Ecomony Stupid". Geo. H.W. got snookered by some lying bastards(but he should have known better, his breeding got the best of him)
    David Stockman's Atlantic Monthly article just added fuel to the fire. Someone should have thrashed him.

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  13. Buddy,
    I'm gonna get those "blue things" workin just as soon as I quite be'in lazy...

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  14. habu, that meme--perhaps the international left's most powerful--has an exact, and i mean exact, analog in every war ever fought.

    For recent and well-known example, Axis war production and recruitment, and number of men under arms, and fury of propaganda, all peaked in the last full year of the war, 1944.

    Had we surrendered in 41, 42, or 43, all that huge surge in enemy capability would never have happened.

    NYT and the left is engaged in bald sophistry. I'm sure the enemy is simply loving every iteration of it.

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  15. The real solution is to have the government to use parts of the closed military bases for VOLUNTARY cannibus,LSD,mushroom (hey Willie come on in)and other drug experiments that the boomers want to try.
    To make them feel good 60's music is piped in as well as sandals and viagra, and we would call them 'Communes". In return their Social Security stipend is reduced.
    As they OD on the shit the goverment harvests the good organs or whatever is good and sells it, or uses it for medical experiments..I mean most of these were Madaline Murray O'Hare believers anyway.
    This method will also reduce the Social Security ponzi scheme burden more rapidly than expected and best of all, we would be doing it for the children.

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  16. You may be joking, but the communes would fill fast, i'd imagine. the opium derivatives would fix social security in a hurry, if well refined and free.

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  17. newed a PR campaign, too, so that signing in to the camp could be spun as a heroic act. "For the Children" is a good core message.

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  18. "need", not "newed"--tho it IS an interesting typo (*blush*).

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  19. Buddy,
    many thanks for the blue thing..

    ALSO, you bet..I wasn't kidding.
    I figure with as many "Boomers" so bereft of any savings, and looking to Social Security that to trade that for dope and beer and a return to the campus nirvana of the 60's atmosphere that literally millions would buy into it ..free clinics for intern DR. to practice medicine. They'd be in the government bosom they have so longed for...and with a good effort by the government to grow their own poppies and pot, Schrooms and whatever that the medical knowledge alone would be worth it. Also by growing our own we could deal a harsh blow (no pun intended) to the cartels, AND hemp is a very strong and wonderful clothing and rope material.
    Also with the proper release papers signed we could get Rufus in on some rotting corpse methane recovery..."Power from the People"

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  20. Personally I can't think of anything in our society that trumps


    "LET'S DO IT FOR THE CHILDREN"

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  21. This is better than I thought. I have sensed that political correctness and multi-culturism was on the way out in Europe at the people level. Look at this from DW

    "Swiss voters backed tougher rules for asylum seekers and fine-tuned immigration legislation in a national referendum Sunday.

    Almost 70 percent of Swiss voters backed moves making it easier to send rejected asylum seekers home, as well as lengthen periods of detention for potential deportees and cut financial aid to people whose claims are turned down.

    The same percentage approved new immigration legislation that aims to overcome what supporters say is a lack of integration of many legally resident foreigners in Swiss society."

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  22. "Power From the People!"
    Yeah, man!

    The guy in this blue thing got nuffin on habu!

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  23. But then the Swiss have never really been "PC"...they are required to maintain a rifle at home.

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  24. Continuing the theme of Elder Hippie Communes, we could employ (once again out of the SS stipends of the hipppies) many legal immigrants to clean the communes, food service, hemp clothing loom teaching and hookah filling duties.
    Illegals could also gain citizenship "points" by working on upkeep and repair as well as learning English from the elders.
    It's WIN-WIN for those who sign up. I mean we have plenty of closed military bases and they all have fences around them.

    Come on people shine on your brother eveybody get together and love one another right now.

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  25. T,
    The "American People" know "he doth protest too much" when they see it, even if they couldn't put it into worms.
    And the reaction was identical to before when he got caught with his fingers and other objects in the cookie jar.
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    Habu,
    Exactly!
    The look said it all, and all they've done since is polish their act.
    Actually, Hillary has and Bill hasn't, since he's had a free ride since and doesn't need to.
    Good thing for him too, since maybe he CAN'T.
    He'll never know, never be tested, thus the anger.

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  26. "... WALLACE: And the White House, the Republicans want to make the American people afraid?

    CLINTON: Of course they do. Of course they do. They want us to be — they want another homeland security deal. And they want to make it about — not about Iraq but about some other security issue, where, if we disagree with them, we are, by definition, imperiling the security of the country.

    And it's a big load of hooey. We've got nine Iraq war veterans running for the House seats. We've got President Reagan's secretary of the navy as the Democratic candidate for the Senate in Virginia. A three-star admiral, who was on my National Security Council staff, who also fought terror, by the way, is running for the seat of Kurt Weldon in Pennsylvania.

    We've got a huge military presence here in this campaign. And we just can't let them have some rhetorical device that puts us in a box we don't belong in.

    That's their job. Their job is to beat us. I like that about Rove. But our job is not to let them get away with it. And if they don't, then we'll do fine.

    WALLACE: Mr. President, thank you for one of the more unusual interviews.

    CLINTON: Thanks. ..."

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  27. In Hawaii, we do it all for the Keiki.
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    Just pay the Afghans to continue to grow the poppies, instantly turning outlaws into farmers, and giving the govt a source of tax revenue on the resales.
    Rufus contracts Methane/Solar Old Age Spas/Opium Rest Stops promoted by Fonda and Streisand.

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  28. 'Rat,
    You know who that Admiral running against Kurt Weldon is and how he's doing?

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  29. Why the hell the GOP didn't recruit a bunch of Iraqi vets says something about the openness to outsiders of the Admin and GOP as a whole.

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  30. Mr Clinton did this on FOX for a purpose, he didn't become "slick" with out reason.
    ABC, folks, they were not stabbing Bill in the back, with that show. No, they placed him back in the headlines, above the fold.
    The Dems only need 1 or 2 in a hundred to think he's right, when before, they were not sure.

    Why not Afghanistan?

    Peggy Noonan, buddy, on that FOX / WSJ show, said that would be the Dems move. Attack the management of the War, not the Goals.
    The ball was fumbled on the way to the Goal, according to the storyline.

    By individual Districts bet it's Dems +13 seats. Same as Beltway Boys, Mort and Fred had the Dems up as few as 12 as many 16.
    No one will be able to miss a Session, on either side. Dems still winning small.

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  31. Nightmare in the Political Zoo:
    Chickenhawks with Achilles Heels.

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  32. My name is Joe Sestak. I grew up in Delaware County and am the son of an immigrant. I attended both grade school and Cardinal O’Hara High School in Springfield Township before entering the U.S. Naval Academy in Annapolis, Maryland.

    Prior to leaving naval service after 31 years and returning home to Delaware County, I attained the rank of Vice Admiral after having had a series of operational commands at sea, including Commander of an aircraft carrier battle group of 30 U.S. and allied ships that conducted combat operations in both Iraq and Afghanistan. ..."



    and thewikipedia bio

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  33. Doug,

    the GOP Big Tent still requires one to genuflect to the parties hierarchy, locally,state, and national ..tis their way..

    But your point is spot on the money, they missed a big chance,but those Reps who have toiled at the local /state levels for years to attain rights to rule us do not stand aside easily.

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  34. 'Rat,
    If Rove and W had a lick of sense, they'd make the Dems stand on immigration and voter ID's the big issue.
    ...but since it's not W's issue and the bones are set in stone...

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  35. Doug,

    Yes driving pleasure ..as in these here drugs are driv'in me to pleasure.

    Far dat thang up and don't Bogart it.

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  36. I didn't say Linda, Leroy, I said Trip!

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  37. In wise & immortal words

    "Just WIN, baby"

    But that wisdom has been forgotten,
    given way to socialist senority schemes.

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  38. Instead of Free Opium,
    it's Free Viagra on the Bridge to Nowhere.

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  39. October Surprise Contest..

    I say the president has one of the condemed AQ guillotined in the Rose Garden at the beginning of a press conference ...just to show his resolve.

    The head will be piked and placed beside the lecturn during the conference..."Helen I think you had a question?"

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  40. Can't they just take the ferry, why did the Federal Government need that bridge for anyway, interstate commerce?

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  41. Was Clinton's "Meltdown" as Counterfeit as the Man?
    On review, I question whether or not Clinton's "rage" at Chris Wallace wasn't coldly calculated, and part of the Democratic midterm election playbook.

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  42. Habu,
    Have one of Saddam's Shredders Reconditioned, and have Helen in a Chair on a False Floor.

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  43. Over at Westhawk there's an article about Anbar and how the locals have gathered up 20-30,000 to fight AQ and the bad guys GREAT NEWS

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  44. That's the ticket, doug.
    ON FOX, the leading edge of the "MSM Rightwing Conspiracy"

    They've been settin' Bill up for this for awhile.

    Why was Mr Clarke demoted?

    Why not Afghanistan?

    That is where the enemy was, and is. The Clintons don't just "fall in". Even without Mr Morris to talk to.

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  45. Forget the Viagra:
    I'm on a Fairy to You Know Wherey.

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  46. " Clarke quotes Mike Sheehan, a State Department official, saying in frustration, “What’s it going to take, Dick? Who the shit do they think attacked the Cole, fuckin’ Martians? The Pentagon brass won’t let Delta go get bin Laden. Hell they won’t even let the Air Force carpet bomb the place. Does al Qaeda have to attack the Pentagon to get their attention?”

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  47. Lawrence Wright says the CIA refused to pass on Bojinka info, and says the wall had nothing to do with it.
    (since it wasn't domestic?)

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  48. HH: On this program, Christopher Hitchens, Vanity Fair writer, has asserted that on the morning of 9/11, George Tenet, upon learning of the attacks, said I hope it wasn’t the guys in the flight school. Do you credit that? Or is that apocryphal?

    LW: Hugh, I don’t know how far up the chain the information about these two al Qaeda hijackers went. Certainly, there were people that were in the top of Alec Station, not Mike Scheuer…

    HH: You’ve got to explain what Alec Station is to people.

    LW: Alec Station was the virtual bin Laden station, that was recently abandoned. But it was create…it was to pursue and find bin Laden, set up in 1996. And there were people there that knew because of the following of the Malaysian meeting, and the participants there, they knew that these people had come into the U.S. I don’t know how far it passed up. I could not get cooperation from the CIA to talk to the people that were involved.

    HH: Would George Tenet cooperate with you?

    LW: No.

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  49. Rufus,
    I read that the gal running against Talent supports his bill on immigration or stand on the wowa, forget which.

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  50. Gorelick was just on Fox. Crappy, contentious interview "There WAS no "wall", I don't know what you're talking about, revisiting my testimony, there IS no more 911 Commission" etcetera.

    Fox guy finally just said "thanks" and chopped her mike.

    Somebody had told her to show up, and she didn't wanna, and it showed in spades.

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  51. Another Truthteller.
    Like that Wilson Feller.

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  52. LW: Yeah, you’re absolutely right. He was not…he’s certainly not a charismatic leader. But he did have a talent for organizing men around him. And when he met bin Laden, you know, sometimes, I think it must have been like Colonel Parker spotting Elvis for the first time. He thought, you know, I can do something with this kid. Here was this wealthy, charismatic, young Saudi who had a dream, which was, at the time, he wanted to create a Muslim, an Arab foreign legion, something that could go anywhere and fight for Muslim causes. And mainly, he was an anti-communist organization at the time.

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  53. Wright says Mike Scheuer and Oneill were they only two SCREAMING about AQ.
    And Clinton's Girl Bodine had Oneill fired on the Cole.
    (I think she got in w/Bush Sr.)

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  54. Didn't know she was still ahead.
    Senate is Scary for Sure.
    Judiciary would suck.

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  55. The rally north of Beirut came just two days after a massive gathering by the rival Shiite Muslim Hezbollah that attracted hundreds of thousands. The two sides have been at sharp odds over the future of the Lebanese government since this summer's Israeli-Hezbollah war.

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  56. Here we go all over again with Nasrallah:
    Like Sadr, he should have disappeared already.

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  57. Bodine was of a cut with April Glasby, who had accidentally signalled Saddam he could "do" Kuwait.

    rufus, that Beirut demo was mostly Christians--and if you saw the pix, the people were dressed as if for church. Very elegant looking people. They look a little longer outta the trees than the Hez crowds.

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  58. Geagea, who backs Hezbollah's disarmament, implicitly accused the Iranian- and Syrian-backed group of running "a state within a state" in south Lebanon.

    "How can a state be established while there is a mini-state (within its borders)? How can this state be established while every day arms and ammunitions are smuggled (to Hezbollah) under its (the state's) nose?" he said.

    Nasrallah vowed at a massive rally Friday in Beirut's southern suburbs not to disarm despite international pressure. Some 800,000 Hezbollah supporters cheered Nasrallah at the gathering to celebrate what Hezbollah called "a divine victory" against Israel in the 34-day war that ended on Aug. 14.

    In his speech, Nasrallah also called for the formation of a new government, repeatedly attacking Saniora's administration, which he called weak and unable to protect Lebanon from Israel.

    Hezbollah's push for a stronger political role could deepen tensions in a country already sharply divided over the war.

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  59. "The Guardian said that the US government had a plan for a government of 23 ministries, each one headed by an American, to rule Iraq. Each ministry would have four Iraqi advisers. The head of this government would be Jay Garner, a retired US army general who is a fanatical Zionist - hardly the sort of person whom the Iraqi people would choose to rule them by any democratic process. According to The Guardian, the composition of this government had been decided by US government officials, particularly the ZionistDeputy Secretary of Defense Paul Wolfowitz: "The most controversial of Mr. Wolfowitz's proposed appointees is Ahmad Chalabi, the head of the opposition Iraqi National Congres, together with his close associates, including his nephew… Chalabi … has become the Pentagon's darling among the Iraqi opposition. The Defense Secretary, Donald Rumsfeld, is one of his strongest supporters. The State Department and the CIA, on the other hand, regard him with deep suspicion"
    ---
    Bremmer and State oth were faultless.

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  60. Garner looked like a real fanatic, puffin on a Cigar in a Lounge Chair at the Palace.

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  61. Some 800,000 Hezbollah supporters cheered Nasrallah at the gathering to celebrate what Hezbollah called "a divine victory" against Israel in the 34-day war that ended on Aug. 14.
    Hell, that's as big as the Original Illegal Rally!

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  62. Powell turns out to've been something of a slo-mo train-wreck, I'm afraid. The notorious state dept Arabists musta got him.

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  63. Geagea served 11 years in prison before he was released in July 2005, when Lebanon's parliament approved a motion to pardon him.

    He was leader of the Lebanese Forces — the country's most powerful Christian militia during the Lebanese civil war. Israel backed the militia during that conflict and the Israeli invasion in 1982 to expel Palestinian guerrillas.

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  64. Arabists and his Unquenchable Ego.

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  65. That's a great article, Rufus, gives an overview.
    I'll go see what Prof Landis is up to.

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  66. Assad: Ms. Rice didn’t thank us for our policies, only for our response to the attack. But this attack happened precisely because of American policies in our region.

    SPIEGEL: Why should the Americans be at fault?

    Assad: Because they contribute to hopelessness in our country, and to silencing the dialogue between cultures. And then there is the condescending language — the expression “islamofascism,” which President Bush used, is a prime example. The pope’s recent comments are also part of it. Such statements complicate the situation and create this need for revenge.
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    The Pope Made me do it!

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  67. Always said the Allies would have been better off killin' a couple of hundred Syrian tanks, leavin' Lebanon alone. They should have gone to the source to collect the debt.

    Instead they will have ended up with Lebanon going to the combined radicals.

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  68. As to the Anbar news that the residents will be taking up arms against the aQ insurgents.

    It is just the "newest" militia.
    30,000 armed Sunni, with a recongnized command structure.
    Just about matches either the Mahdi Army or the Badr Brigades.

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  69. What do you think of the German military mission in the Middle East?

    Assad: That depends on the mission. Germany is supposed to prevent weapons from reaching Hezbollah. History teaches us that nobody can prevent a resistance group from arming when it has the support of the people.

    SPIEGEL: Mission Impossible for the German navy?

    Assad: As long as the public support for Hezbollah remains as high as it is today, yes, it is a Mission Impossible. The majority here sees the resistance against Israel as legitimate. I would advise the Europeans: Don’t waste your time, address the roots of the problem…….(Continued)

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  70. Well, doug, if the US military machine cannot secure the Iraq/Syria, Iraq/Iran, Iraq/KSA borders from infiltration and illicit border crossings, how could the Syrians or the French?

    In Afghanistan the German Airforce is daylight only, no night flying.
    Will the night belong to Mohammed, in Lebanon? Have to think it will.

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  71. It's in the Bag, 'Rat:
    We got GAWD on our Side:
    ""I certainly hope that Hillary is the candidate," Falwell told a private prayer breakfast. "Because nothing will energize my (constituency) like Hillary Clinton."

    "If Lucifer ran, he wouldn't," Falwell added, drawing a roomful of laughs and cheers.



    An aide to Falwell said the remarks were off-the-cuff and not intended to demonize the Democratic senator from New York.

    Attendees also were assured during the prayer breakfast that God would preserve a Republican majority in Congress."

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  72. Whatever Assad is, he's not dumb, or ignorant.
    ...or a fanatic Muzzie suicider.
    ...not good enuff, I guess:
    Better a Islamic Democracy?

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  73. The US cannot secure it's own southern frontier from a high traffic count of illicit border crossings.

    How can anyone expect some understrength UN force to achieve in Lebanon what the US has failed to achieve in Iraq and Afghanistan.
    Cross Border Security.

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  74. No, it's impossible--it's the Ho Chi Minh trail all over again. Too many eyes watching for the openings, too many willing hands, too many weapons break-downable to mule-handy.

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  75. a border has a chance, with like-minded guards on *both* sides.

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  76. I am with you there rat and it has become quite apparent to Europe the limitations to US miltary power. We can fight huge apocalyptic wars but seem incapable of doing manpower intensive excercises like defending our own southern border. This bothers the Europeans and alarms them because they have such an inflexible military posture. The Europeans do not want to see a weakened US. They are having a tough time getting 2500 additional troopd to Afghanistan. I know a lot of you will say tough shit, but we have to get past that and do something fast about our miltary strength.

    Our reduced capabilities are becoming apparent to some of our client states as well. It is ashame that it is happening at a time when there is a detectable growing boldness in Europe in dealing with the Muslims. The Egyptians, recipients of much US aid, have banned the distribution of the French newspaper Le Figaro and the German daily Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung because it says they publish articles which insult the Muslim faith.

    The Egyptian Information Ministry banned the newspapers for including opinion pieces which said that "the Islamic religion was spread by the sword" and that Muhammad was "the prophet of evil." The ministry said it would not allow publications which insulted the Islamic religion to be distributed inside Egypt. I fear the costs of the ill-conceived aftermath of the Iraq war will be tabulated for a very long time.

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  77. It was the Force party Christians who demonstrated today. I guess they are split off from the Maronites on the question of the duality of Hez and Lebanon.

    2164, that's why 20 carrier carriers and a Roman Tax on the Seas might be where we end up in 20 or 50 years. Leave the land to the warring tribes, but keep the sea lanes open, and CHARGE for it.

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  78. typo--carrier carriers=carriers.

    we don't have any carrier carriers yet.

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  79. I would not oppose a specific directed tax to put our military in the position it needs to be. It appears all these billionaires have so much disposable income they can give it away. These same families rarely if ever have anyone in their families serve in the military. Let's forgive them for that and enlist some of their excess cash they do not know quite know where to spend.

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  80. 2164th,
    Prior to Saddat, Wright says hajibs and prayer marks were rarely seen and even made fun of.
    Everybody should read in Wrights interview about Egypt in 1979 era:
    all kinds of s... started there.

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  81. 1950 - 2006 Egypts come a long ways, baby:
    From 1950 all the way to 1600.
    And I ain't talkin DC.

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  82. Resident Evil--1600 Pennsylvania Avenue

    Some people believe the White House is haunted. I prefer to believe the building is demon possessed.

    How else to explain the almost continuous flow of evil that channels through the place?

    How else except a demonic convergence, or porthole to hell itself, to explain the millions of deaths that can easily be attributed to the policies that originate there?

    Almost like Satan enjoyed a guest bedroom at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue!

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  83. (I'm channeling C4!)
    or better
    James K!

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  84. 2164 has the point on our military.

    We need to buck up the Navy,Marines,Army,Air Force,Coast Guard and then develop the Brits WWII Home Guard composed of guys like us.
    Then we need to bomb the Islams with porn,tiz win,nylons, chocolates and Smoores. And never forget..We're doing it for the children.

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  85. The Freemason triangle vortexs in the Lincoln bedroom, the first of the US's genocidal war Presidents, if Mr Jackson and the Indians are ignored.

    But then I've heard Mr Lincoln never slept there. Resident Evil, built on an Indian grave mound, no doubt.

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  86. The telephone pole-sized rocket will hurl around 50 items of payload including a Ziploc bag of Cheerios, some cremated remains and several high school science projects, into a brief suborbital flight 70 miles above the earth.
    ...OK
    The ashes of actor James Doohan, who soared to fame in the 1960s for his portrayal of the burly flight engineer "Scotty" on the popular television series "Star Trek" are scheduled to fly in one rocket next month. Doohan died last year.

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  87. Iran & Iraq, too, had developing middle classes and stylish, cosmopolitan urban life, before 1979.

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  88. Same capacity for hire in New Mexico that the US will go to war to stop in Iran or North Korea?

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  89. That directed surtax would sure send a message to the shitheads, wouldn't it.

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  90. Let's say the USA just completely weeenies out after a Socialist Democratic take over of government.

    What do we do..remain the loyal opposition or all move to Costa Rica?

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  91. Zawahiri had read Qutbs? book when he was 15, I think.

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  92. Habu,
    Some guy's been advertising in LA for Costa Rica Real Estate.

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  93. Some pirates I knew here did it 10 years ago.

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  94. Hell of a family:
    Four sons of a fisherman, all got into boating of "one sort or another"

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  95. I'd love it--so would Ben Stein, who has the right idea, but stops short of the 50-100 bb or so that would fix this ole planet.

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  96. Hey pals, before you do anything in Costa Rica, come to papa.

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  97. Craigslist for costa rica or panama have lots of interesting real estate for sale, at both ends of the price spectrum.
    The lower end is available in Panama, but the marketing of it to the outside world is less developed.

    I'm told the Chinese are going to dredge the bay in Panama City, creating an Ocean front, making the mud/turd flats a memory.

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  98. Re skeedaddle--we could always stay put and revolt. Doug, for example, is *already* revolting.

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  99. My first night in Costa Rica was in 1981. I stayed in a CIA safe house in Costa Rica. That is a story for another time, but I know Costa Rica.

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  100. You know the Socialist Democrats will try to put a muzzle on Rush and control internet blogs as their version of "national security" adjustments...
    The Brady Bill will be resusitated and there could even be a move toward a lockdown on private ownership of guns .... if they tried that ..then what?
    I mean they're already sold on having the USA just like "old socialist Europe"

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  101. Buddy,
    I'm more inclined to be revolting.

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  102. Geraghty's relaxed and readable style as he brings to life the history that led up to and followed 9/11 will have readers who
    thought they knew recent history poring through
    the book to find out what happens (more
    accurately, "what happened") next. The author's
    remarkable access to GOP operatives working
    behind the scenes during the 2004 election gives
    his book an undeniable air of authority.

    Geraghty's central premise, that Democrats as a party have grossly underestimated the transformative effects of the 9/11 terrorist attacks, was borne out in 2004, when Geraghty went against conventional wisdom to predict a Bush victory on his blog, TKS, and again, with the recent purge of Joe Lieberman. He explains the rise of the left-wing fringe, its struggle with Democratic moderates, and its potential to devastate the Democratic party, making it an electoral loser for years to come.

    If there's a weakness in "Voting to Kill", it's
    that Geraghty is too quick to ring down the era
    of mainstream media influence, and usher in the
    Day of the Blog.

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  103. I've broke laws before, I'm sure I'll break some again.

    But revolt?
    Shoot FBI and Border Patrol agents?
    Forest Rangers, they become the "enemy"?
    The BLM fellows?

    Just do not see it, here in AZ. Not when this type of thing is going on in AZ.

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  104. Buddy was talking about revolting in an olfactory way, 'Rat.
    At least about hisself.

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  105. No, i can't see it either, rat. But, what I can't see even more is the me 6 years ago that would've rolled on the floor laughing at the idea of a 21st century religious world war.

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  106. DR,
    yeah it wouldn't be pretty, we'd end up in a huge guerrilla war. but i've been a supporter of the Bill of Rights etc and if they were "modified " out of existence I would have no choice.
    The Founding fathers used very plain language and Farrands notes on the Convention are very clear on the intent of each branch and the rights we each personally possess.
    We had Civil War I, so why not Civil War II?
    As King Leonidas said to Xerxes I at the Battle of Thermoylae when told by Xerxes that Leonidas men would be spared if they laid down their arms and surrendered, Leonidas responded, Molon Labe...."Come and take them!"

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  107. Abracadabra in Turtle Bay
    Terrormaster in National Cathedral
    Michael Moore at the Convention
    CAIR in the White House
    ...on and on.

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  108. "As King Leonidas said to Xerxes I at the Battle of Thermoylae when told by Xerxes that Leonidas men would be spared if they laid down their arms and surrendered"
    ---
    I woulda said:
    "You ain't shit, I caint even remember you, much less spell you, Olive Oil."

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  109. read rat's link and boil awhile. how come the shitheads always work process so well?

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  110. Some 800,000 Hezbollah supporters cheered Nasrallah at the gathering to celebrate what Hezbollah called "a divine victory" against Israel in the 34-day war that ended on Aug. 14.

    We should offer the Iranians one of these "divine victories" or two.

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  111. Doug @ 6:25:59 PM

    hiss'n again?

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  112. Yeah, buddy, they had a lot of folk believing in the end of history, at the end of the 20th Century.

    But with the fall of the Ottomans the Europeans reoccupied the Levant. I've never understood why it wouldn't be considered the newest "Crusade". After a few hundred years of Ottoman dominance.
    The occupations were, without doubt, of a regilous nature.
    Jews in Israel and Catholics in Lebanon.

    Just to PC to admit what is obvious to the Enemy. This rejection of their percieved reality has to be admitted, prior to winning a single Jihadist mind.

    History never sleeps, a lot like rust

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  113. I mean after all the country was founded by revolution against an established authority. Revolutionaries all.. Washington,Franklin,Hamilton,Jay and on and on.

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  114. Matt,
    They don't call him flat-tire Larsen for nuthin.

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  115. 2164, that's why 20 carrier carriers and a Roman Tax on the Seas might be where we end up in 20 or 50 years. Leave the land to the warring tribes, but keep the sea lanes open, and CHARGE for it.

    Since no one besides the USA has had carriers since Halsey sank Ozawa's piss-poor remnants in October 1944 (except for a couple jump-jet transports the Brits and Frogs have), carriers have only been used against warring land tribes since that time. So what we do is go to a six carrier Navy and throw the dividend into a crash program of these slick new Zumwalt Class Destroyers that look like a Civil War ironcland and can hurl a round a second 54 miles away while they are being reloaded.

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  116. Buddy,
    I read that link a few days ago. It fried me then.

    As I've said before the fissures are growing in our culture beyond what a bit of spackle can repair.

    Ask yourself. Do you feel represented or ruled? I'm sure a poll would show some very interesting results. I'd love to see the questioned asked.

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  117. Exactly, habu, which States will lead the revolt. Where is the Confederacy reborn, Alaska or Montana?
    Not here in AZ, nor the Californication. More likely to become Atzland than the home of a Jeffersonnian revival.
    Demographics being what they are.

    Outside of the States, what tribes will open an insurrection upon the Land. Most of our tribes have been disbanded, culturally.

    Vets?, look to the Dems, their ranks are full of vets. The conscription Armies of US past broke 50/50 like the rest of America.
    Nine of the Dems House candidates are Iraq vets, so their thinking expands beyond those conscripted, but to volunteers and Carrier Force Commanders.

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  118. the new Virginia Class Attack Submarines are said to far-obsolete the terribly lethal Los Angeles class.

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  119. Buddy,
    Either someone knew there history or there is a thread in human freedom that defies dictators.
    The coincidence is amazing.

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  120. I really hate to see the military getting politicized. That way lie banana republics.

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  121. Caught that, didja, habu? almost like there's an unseen system somewhere.

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  122. redaktør said...
    What's the mistake, Cedarford? Not nuking Mecca Karachi and Baghdad on the afternoon of 9/11? We are learning to understand the enemy. That understanding will serve us well when we finally do nuke those places.
    9/24/2006 03:25:12 PM
    redaktør said...
    Sorry. Left out Tehran, and I'm sure many others.

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  123. The Texicans knew their history, and a thread of rebellion runs through humanity.

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  124. Of course, no unseen system would've allowed some historian to name this boat.

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  125. not to jinx the boat--it can maybe redeem those letters of alphabet.

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  126. "... On April 8, 1998, Secretary of the Navy John H. Dalton, also a former submariner, officially announced his decision to name the third and final submarine of the SEAWOLF-class for former President James Earl "Jimmy" Carter, Jr., the only U.S. President ever to Qualify-in-Submarines. The naming of the submarine USS JIMMY CARTER (SSN-23) followed the recommendation of military historian Mr. Mark J. Denger, who was at that time the President of the Los Angeles - Pasadena Base, United States Submarine Veterans Inc.


    Secretary Dalton was joined by Chief of Naval Operations Admiral Jay Johnson who presented this honor to President and Mrs. Carter at a naming ceremony for this vessel on April 27, 1998 at the Pentagon. "You probably thought at the time, Mr. President, that USS SEAWOLF (SSN-575) would be your last submarine." said Dalton, "I am honored to dispel that thought, with a new and improved SEAWOLF, named USS JIMMY CARTER." During the ceremony the Secretary and CNO unveiled a model of the submarine JIMMY CARTER and presented a desktop version to the President. President Carter accepted the honor by saying: "If I had a choice between a submarine and an airport, I would choose a submarine." ..."

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  127. "the new Virginia Class Attack"
    Do the Chicoms have the plans for those too?

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  128. DR,
    it'll be a guerrilla war. Just like Iraq, Vietnam,etc. Their won't be a declaration of secession, it will be more spontaneous. The communications are no problem and areas could easily be taken and held. You'd have plenty of vets fighting on both sides but my bet is the revolutionaries would have the bulk.
    You'd have defections in critical areas such as FBI,CIA etc..leaders would emerge.
    I'm not saying it will ever happen but if the Constitution becomes like play dough and the Bill of Rights is distorted beyond whats already taking place with it within the left and you've got a bad situation that will not be tolerated.

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  129. redaktør,
    I'll get right on that:
    Buddy, we need 50 rebuilt Sitzpinkler Sprinklers from the French Quarter, You hear?

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  130. Doug, why don't you ask Chris Wallace to ask Bill Clinton?
    (the answer is "yes"--but probably not up to USN par)

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  131. "If I had a choice between a submarine and an airport, I would choose a submarine." ..."
    ---
    He probably believes he could make a submarine fly.

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  132. mon cher Doug, I only grew up there, I deed not "take on zee airz"

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  133. The French felt pretty good about the tidiness of their well established society right up to 1789.
    And I'm sure a chap like George Soros would love to fund some organizations beyond those on the radio. Then you've got Chinese and Russian funding and organization.....a revolution is always right around the corner...especially today.

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  134. need a catalyst. Florida 2000 wasn't enough, in 2000. the threshhold, in an ownership society, is very high. Home-owners need a close threat. easily whacked over time (thousand cuts), tho, for the same reason--"property values".

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  135. Which of course is precisely why those 1789 "sans culottes" had such contempt for the Boo Jwah Zee.

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  136. no, i can't, and you can't spell it, either

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  137. The message here is really an open one to the Socialist Democrats.

    If you screw around with our republic like you'd like to do then you're playing a very serious game.
    Many of us will not go gently into the night.

    Now all you contributors who feel that the NSA has already recorded all of your keystrokes, well you are correct. They and other monitiors are listening to it all,so just move the conversation over to tomato gardening and we'll all be OK.

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  138. the last time zee Franch had an armee in North africa, it killed 800 Anglo/Americans in the "Torch" landings. The time before that, it blew the nose off the Sphinx.

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  139. catalyst. KELO V. NEW LONDON case on "takings". Destroyed eminent domain law as interpreted for the entire history of this country.

    Three coequal branches of governemnt?

    Early on Madison vs. Marbury established judicial review, never mentioned in the Constitution and thus destroyed the coequal branch theory.

    Separation of church and state..a product of a letter from Thomas Jefferson to a religious group in Waterbury Conn. Never mentioned in the Constitution.
    On and on.

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  140. wonder how many doors the DNC knocked on to get those fellers?

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  141. Some here actually won't discuss certain issues as being too provocative.
    So much for the defense of free speech.

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  142. Judicial review is oft emplyed at the state level--as a threat against home-town judges.

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  143. You think your case has a biased judge, you can appeal to the state supreme court.

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  144. But as I asked earlier,

    Do you feel ruled or represented?

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  145. Rufus,
    That's really a very low threshold.
    What about the Bill of Rights?
    They not worthy of defense?

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  146. ok, tomato topic ..

    how to plants a good crop.
    soil is important.

    I wonder how many BTU's we could squeeze out of sat a good BLT?

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  147. Rufus,
    If you install a Methane Tap does it bring folks back down to Earth?

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  148. Instead of beatin up them revolutionaries in the 60's Habu, you should have joined them and gotten it out of your system!

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  149. Habu,
    When the son broke the Bacon Burger record here, everybody told him to cut it up in pieces.
    Being about 8 inches tall, he instead put his Palm on it and pressed down:
    Squeezed out about 600 calories of Grease.
    ...Then he began to munch.
    Said he had a hard time gettin his mouth around it at first.
    You ain't seen proud til you seen me hear that!

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  150. Doug,

    Can we please focus on tomato farming now please. All this talk about the Constitution is making our ancestors nervous...Washington is in an absolute snit.

    Now tomato is a friut right?

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  151. Same Family as the Poisonous Nightshade.
    That give you any ideas?

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  152. Doug,
    that is a proud moment. now if we take the gease from that can we fry up some tomatos in it?

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  153. I'm for packin C-17's with Illegals, then havin em line up to take a dump out the rear over Mecca:
    Montezuma Comes to Mecca.
    The Rest will become the History of the Missing Restrooms.

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  154. Buy on the Rumor,
    Sell on the News.

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  155. Doug

    I'll take no part in poisoning two topics in one evening..

    how about moon phases? lets see there's none, a bit, a bit more, then half and then it goes the other way..is that about it?

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  156. Buy Lockeed,
    Sell to the Joos.

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  157. Two Bits, Four Bits, 6 Bits and Full, I think.

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  158. Rufus,
    I've turned all my guns in. I'm trying to do some behavior modification by opening my mind to things that are important. A good bowel movement, dental floss, and always buckling up.
    Someone else will have to do those other things..I'll be hiding in the mangrove swamps.

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  159. High Colonic Irrigation is big on Maui.

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  160. You can take an Oil bath in a Hot Tub too:
    Gauranteed to be fully filtered after the fat broad gets out.
    I Guess.

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  161. I'm purchasing a brand new powered clay wheel so I can turn clay into beautiful faux Navajo artifacts.
    I'm having made in China stamped on them 'cause that's all we buy anymore..pretty smart huh?

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  162. Habu, Yeah,
    If you build a traditional oven/smokestack outta Mud, you can put a picture of that on the card and charge more:
    Just say it's Gen u ine Ancient Chinese from the Dong Dynasty.
    A Bloody Period that was.

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  163. Also I think it's time to acknowledge the contributions of those citizens who follow their dogs around and pick up the poop.

    That is nice.

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  164. My neighbors are so rich they just walk by here and letem use our lawn!

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  165. Rufus,
    Don't forget OUR share.
    We gotcha here.

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  166. Doug,

    You mustn't speak of blood and such things. It will destroy you from within. Think only of the sweetness of the mellon on your lips, or the intoxicating aroma of honeysuckle on a spring night.
    calm, soothing
    The clay will "tell" me how to mold it. I see visions of dreamcatchers in clay.

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  167. fer de lance ,mess you up brother

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  168. Crap! Is that your last Bud?

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  169. And Rufus,my dear friend, eschew the ducats that would trap your soul to a life of degredation and hot damn.
    seek the wisdom born of the ascetic and spend time in contemplation of the yin and yang.
    by doing so the spirit in you will be your bounty.

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  170. Rufus - Stoic of the Mississippi.

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  171. from guns to Gumby..I'm one flexible dude

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  172. High Colonic Stoichemistry:
    Limited to Pre Dead Heads.

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  173. Yoga and Pilates will keep you there, Brother.

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  174. Back in the Days, Road and Track or Car and Driver did a test run of the Gas Stations down there that sold beer in drive throughs!

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  175. ....and do not let the venom of the serpent keep you from walking barefoot near the swampy areas at night. it will only entice them..allow them to be at peace with a fang of peace not a pang of yeast, only to leave unlevened the lingering lietmotif of the swampy area.
    but beware of the jabberwocky

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  176. Cherry Tomatoes will grow on the Beach, and are Fruit Fly Resistant.

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  177. For the Desert 'Rat:
    Romanos.

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  178. http://www.rottentomatoes.com/p/ray_romano/

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  179. Go placidly amid the noise and haste,
    and remember what peace there may be in silence.
    As far as possible without surrender
    be on good terms with all persons.
    Speak your truth quietly and clearly;
    and listen to others,
    even the dull and the ignorant;
    they too have their story.

    Avoid loud and aggressive persons,
    they are vexations to the spirit.
    If you compare yourself with others,
    you may become vain and bitter;
    for always there will be greater and lesser persons than yourself.
    Enjoy your achievements as well as your plans.


    Keep interested in your own career, however humble;
    it is a real possession in the changing fortunes of time.
    Exercise caution in your business affairs;
    for the world is full of trickery.
    But let this not blind you to what virtue there is;
    many persons strive for high ideals;
    and everywhere life is full of heroism.


    Be yourself.
    Especially, do not feign affection.
    Neither be cynical about love;
    for in the face of all aridity and disenchantment
    it is as perennial as the grass.


    Take kindly the counsel of the years,
    gracefully surrendering the things of youth.
    Nurture strength of spirit to shield you in sudden misfortune.
    But do not distress yourself with dark imaginings.
    Many fears are born of fatigue and loneliness.
    Beyond a wholesome discipline,
    be gentle with yourself.


    You are a child of the universe,
    no less than the trees and the stars;
    you have a right to be here.
    And whether or not it is clear to you,
    no doubt the universe is unfolding as it should.


    Therefore be at peace with God,
    whatever you conceive Him to be,
    and whatever your labors and aspirations,
    in the noisy confusion of life keep peace with your soul.


    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams,
    it is still a beautiful world.
    Be cheerful.
    Strive to be happy.

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  180. " And finally to you, the graduating class of Harvard, I say.
    Do not think the world lacks challenges worthy of your talents and intellect. My generation has left many toils to be undertaken, many questions yet to be anwered.
    Who, I ask, put the boop in the boop shu boop shu boop?
    Who, I ask, put the ram in the ram-a-lam-a-ding-dong?

    So go forth and enlighten the world"
    Thank you.

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  181. ..and whether it be boop or bop it still has a vowel sound.

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  182. that was the Desiderata, here is the Deteriorata:

    Go placidly
    Amid the noise and waste.
    And remember what comfort there may be
    In owning a piece thereof.


    Avoid quiet and passive persons
    Unless you are in need of sleep.


    Ro-tate your tires.

    Speak glowingly of those greater than yourself
    And heed well their advice,
    Even though they be turkeys.


    Know what to kiss.....and when!

    Consider that two wrongs never make a right
    But that THREE.........do.


    Wherever possible, put people on hold.


    Be comforted that in the face of all aridity and disillusionment
    And despite the changing fortunes of time,
    There is always a big future in computer main-te-nance.


    Chorus

    You are a fluke
    Of the universe.
    You have no right to be here.
    And whether you can hear it or not
    The universe is laughing behind your back.


    Remember the Pueblo.


    Strive at all times to bend, fold, spindle and mu-ti-late.


    Know yourself.
    If you need help, call the FBI.


    Exercise caution in your daily affairs,
    Especially with those persons closest to you.
    That lemon on your left, for instance.


    Be assured that a walk through the ocean of most souls
    Would scarcely get your feet wet.


    Fall not in love therefore;
    It will stick to your face.


    Gracefully surrender the things of youth:
    The birds, clean air, tuna, Taiwan
    And let not the sands of time
    Get in your lunch.


    Hire people with hooks.


    For a good time call 606-4311;
    Ask for "Ken."


    Take heart amid the deepening gloom
    That your dog is finally getting enough cheese.


    And reflect that whatever misfortune may be your lot
    It could only be worse in Milwaukee.


    Chorus

    You are a fluke
    Of the universe.
    You have no right to be here.
    And whether you can hear it or not
    The universe is laughing behind your back.


    Therefore, make peace with your god
    Whatever you conceive him to be---
    Hairy thunderer, or cosmic muffin.


    With all its hopes, dreams, promises and urban renewal
    The world continues to deteriorate.


    GIVE UP!

    Reprise

    You are a fluke
    Of the universe.
    You have no right to be here.
    And whether you can hear it or not
    The universe is laughing behind your back.

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  183. The self-confidence of the warrior is not the self-confidence of the average man. The average man seeks certainty in the eyes of the onlooker and calls that self-confidence. The warrior seeks impeccability in his own eyes and calls that humbleness. The average man is hooked to his fellow men, while the warrior is hooked only to infinity.

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  184. Glad to help, rufus

    habu, that is actually pretty profound.

    Rodney Dangerfield said "If you want to look thin, hang around fat people."

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