COLLECTIVE MADNESS


“Soft despotism is a term coined by Alexis de Tocqueville describing the state into which a country overrun by "a network of small complicated rules" might degrade. Soft despotism is different from despotism (also called 'hard despotism') in the sense that it is not obvious to the people."

Thursday, September 14, 2006

Obsession: The Movie

Watch Glenn Beck's show on Headline News tonight to see clips from Obsession: Radical Islams War Against the West

Clips from Obsession

Obsessionthemovie.com

Plot Summary for Obsession: Radical Islam's War Against the West (2005)
The sequel to Relentless, Obsession is a film about the threat of Radical Islam to Western civilization. Using unique footage from Arab television, it reveals an 'insider's view' of the hatred the Radicals are teaching, their incitement of global jihad, and their goal of world domination. The film also traces the parallels between the Nazi movement of World War II, the Radicals of today, and the Western world's response to both threats. Featuring interviews with Daniel Pipes, Steve Emerson, Alan Dershowitz, a former PLO terrorist, and a former Hitler Youth Commander.

Hat tip to Tiger at Observanda

237 comments:

  1. I haven't seen the movie. I'm sure it's a good one. But I don't want to see a movie.
    I want to see nukes over Iran. I guess that makes me a schroom kinda guy.

    Where is Bob Smith. We need her. She was gonna be a carnivore to my marsupial. Then she disappeared.
    I hope she's doing research.
    I would make suggestions but Amy Armadillo held no charm for her Bobness. Got it..THE VENUS FLYTRAP.
    It congers the titllation of an Anais Nin. ie The Delta of Venus and Litle Birds just to name two. Of course if we go the other way it congers up WKRP...a conundrum...any Bob Smith if you're out there come in from the cold.
    Otters are kool too.

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  2. habu wrote:

    Where is Bob Smith. We need her. She was gonna be a carnivore to my marsupial. Then she disappeared.

    That sounds like a sleazy pick-up line.

    Habu: "Hey babe, I think in a previous life I was your bathwater. How would you like to be a carnivore to my marsupial?"

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  3. Habu reminds me--

    The daughter recently invited me to see her place in Chinatown, NYC. She and roommate were the only English/Japanese-speaking tenants in tenement. Toilet was balky, the bath lav filled with sea shells, and the entire apartment was an art installation of street finds arranged in middens and on the walls, some of which had been removed/ censored for my visit. A found cat had been adopted and adapted to their urban cave dwelling to catch rodents that come through the always open windows.

    The kitchen counter was covered in art supplies, there was only a four cu. ft. fridge, and a Venus fly trap was placed by the trash receptacle to do the obvious.

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  4. So did we, Doug :)

    She likes physics, math, art, music and her new apartment as of this month- it's quite nice, thank god.

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  5. Up until now I had never really thought of being someones bath water in my other life but what a great idea.
    But only if I get to pick whose bath I'm drawn for..I'm a heterosexual male so it would have to be a woman.
    Q. do I get a new woman daily
    Q. can I be a "shower attachment"
    for erotic pleasure?
    So many possibilities ..thanks for the fantasy Teresita.
    I know I'd start with Victoria Silvstedt ...might never leave that beauty. hmmm thanks again.

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  6. Lindsey Grahm is supposed to be on Hewitt soon.
    http://www2.krla870.com/listen/
    He, Powell, Armitage, and a few others should all be terminated.

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  7. Catherine 7:05:06 PM,
    Our young son's already been through worse than a nasty appartment, and lived to survive and again live like a human.

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  8. As bad as reading at the BC!

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  9. catherine...the Chinatown diggs, ah excuse me crib, sounds rather eclectic.
    However on the positive side she'll be close to lots of cool places..little Italy and the annual San Gennaro Festival.
    a subway ride to the Tavern on the Green in Central Park for brunch.
    When I worked for Merrill Lynch I had a place right next to WinterGarden overlooking the Hudson River. Manhatten is.

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  10. Doug,
    I'm stuck in the tub and can't get up!!
    Teresita you've sparked what hopefully will become an occasional reverie.

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  11. Habu, you've been sucked in!
    They're using you for a physic!

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  12. Thanks, doug and Habu, for the encouragement. Guess bohemian is survivable and, actually, daughter has moved to a better place while still keeping the other as an art studio. "Million dollar baby" actress lives in the adjacent building there, downstairs is an illegal Chinese gambling-I-don't-know-what-else den. The kid assured me that she and girlfriend were safe when they were over there, because an eccentric Chinaman took them to a special mafia club where they ate raw jellyfish for initiation and "acceptance." She's amused by how the most of the Chinese in the neighborhood find Caucasian women repulsive looking.

    Will tell her to look for the San Gennaro festival. She lives in Central Park- loves the Natural Science Museum and high tea over on the other side. Btw, were you at Merrill Lynch/NY in the nineties?

    Of the five thou people she knows there, four are Republican, and a number are Palestinian supporting Jews. Hope they watch the special tonight.

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  13. Teresita,
    You know I think it could be a great sleazy pick up line, but at 58.5 and married I don't ever get out after seven. Usually here actually..gotta change that too. Too much of life to actually live....
    Anyway " I couldn't help noticing that you'd make a great carnivore to my marsupial."
    "ooh I've never ridden in a marsupial before. How much did you pay for it?"
    "Excuse me while I go feed the meter whew close one"

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  14. "lived to survive and again live"
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    What doug said!

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  15. catherine,
    i wouldn't worry about the Chinese, whatever it could be. It's probably an amalgam of opium den and hooker haven but you're daughter will probably never get inside.
    If she does tell her to have her friend with her cause smoking opium is nice but you're in kinda a euphoric incapacitation the first time.

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  16. Doug,
    thanks for the image of being a purgative.

    So ladies, whats new for the Fall fashion season? New color? Rustic Americana? bathrobe and bunny slippers?

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  17. I wonder if that Euphoric Decapitation is more painless then the other kind?

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  18. Bet it doesn't hold a candle to the Euphoria of Starving to death.
    ---
    Aristides will probably make a good lawyer for the next Schiavo-Mate.

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  19. Doug,
    Didn't you read my stream of consciousness what's-it-all-about, Pong in the head comments in the last thread..if not do..nothing we do here makes sense, not in todays world..it's turned too kafkaesk...lawyers are just legal terrorists whose reward will be Satre's "No Exit" ...jeez am I Belmonting?

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  20. New color for this year's fall fashion? Gun bluing is never out of season, Habu.

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  21. Buddy,
    Teresita made me into bathwater so I'm all in a lather.

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  22. Looking at the Pork Chop link, I figure maybe the goofys will reach critical mass in the blogoshere, and we'll snatch sanity back from the lawyers, politicians, and over-intellectual BMDs.

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  23. That ain't lather, Habu.
    Physics 101 says so.

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  24. catherine,
    gung-ho on gun bluing....what caliber? Pump,semi auto, FULL AUTO, just how far along in the bluing stage are you?

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  25. Buddy ,
    i think john mccain has lost his mind

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  26. Buddy, did Wretchard really take two of your posts down?

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  27. never hurts to be liquid, and close to the assets.

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  28. yeah doug,
    i've looked in on belmont and there is a good deal of pseudo-intellectual compensatory ego stretching going on over there. honestly it's painful sometimes.

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  29. rufus, no, it was that damn hoity toity whit, who used to be one of the people, but is now way up in "administrator" strata, and gleefully ruining the two finest posts of my life, which I unfortunately cannot recreate, having flown too close to the sun and stuff.

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  30. Rufus,
    I left a Possumtater over there today asking for the bus schedule and route to the Elephant Bar..I wonder if he took it down... my gawd he's turned himself into a grounds keeper.

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  31. yeh, I'm not much for McCain, either. I have no idear where he's at on anything. Gimme one o de "G" guys.

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  32. Is whit working both sites? ...

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  33. no, it was this thread--it went up, and then whit sadistically changed it. My two posts, which really *were* the berries, answering all the questions on current events and showing the righteous path and stuff, disappeared amid the so-called "improvement".

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  34. Drudge had a nice picture of Ma Richards, her dog, and a shotgun.

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  35. Buddy,
    I just checked the BC to see if PossumTater survived the cut ...he did.
    Man you must have written in ebonics or something to get busted twice..yo bro what show'n?

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  36. I can sweart to that Habu:
    I saw the numbers on the Counter.
    Bud's right:
    He Statistically Changed it fer sher.

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  37. I otter call Dewey, Cheatum, & Howe, my Low firm. i mean Law firm.

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  38. Buddy should copy every keystroke he makes.

    Habu, semi .22 and 9mm. I'm not strong enough for those he-man cannon calibers.

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  39. Buddy,
    don't tell me we're already undergoing an "improvement " stage..i mean it's not Howard Stern

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  40. Habu's in a "Euphoric State"
    Up someone's arse.

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  41. Bob Smith and I toy w/Seminole Automatics.

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  42. The Seminole are related to that lost tribe, the Phekardy.

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  43. They Party Hardy but where the Phekardy?

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  44. catherine,
    i shoot my High Standard .22 target semi a lot ..for on it's more economical and you can still practice all the skills necessary to hit were you want. The larger calibers you just follow the same procedures ..until you wrist breaks and ears start bleeding..no aleays wear safety stuff

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  45. Just don't go shootin up no Cemetaries, you hear?

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  47. i once saw an indian...actually lots unknowingly the wife and i arrive at the little big horn battlefield on the anniversary date..indians everywhere, real indians and boy could you tell that you were in there "hood"

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  48. I still don't understand the deal about the posts. Did Whit "screw up" whilst doing his administratin duties, or did he just not think your posts were worthy?

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  49. Big John is a fraud.
    He sits on the Board of a charity,
    Special Operation Warrior Foundation, for which I was doing a 100% fund raiser, back in '03.
    D-Day +3, actually. Bad scheduling on my part, even I wanted to stay home and watch the action. I had thought we'd be rolling in there a bit sooner, when I set the date in the fall of '02.
    Anyway, ole John and his staff couldn't even produce a letter of support for us. I'll never forgive him for that hypocricy, above and beyond his left wing, anti-freedom politics.

    Special Operation Warrior Foundation, a very worthy group.

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  50. Ko reans caint pass as natives?

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  51. DR..no good deed goes unpunished..mccain has just gone down down down ..i think he has a rejection issue..i know for sure he had an ejection issue out of an A-4.

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  52. The High Standard 22, forget which model I had, but it was my first handgun. Great piece, lots of fun.

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  53. Tuf,
    They weren't worthy but he screwed up and accidentally erased them.
    We both got a big laugh before he did tho.
    That Buddy, I swear!

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  54. We both wanted them saved in Perpetuity, but we misspelled it and they ended up in limbo.

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  55. yeah that .22 is a great shooter..i'e got some sub sonic ammo that makes a very small sound. with a surpressor it wouldn't be detectable.
    The Company had all kinds of what we called "hush-puppies" for any barking guard dogs ..9mm surpressed you could not hear.
    also had a little gizmo like the old hand shake "joy buzzer"..except it contained a .22lr..you just slap the guys head ..bye bye.

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  56. Ever shake a friend's hand just for kicks?

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  57. You have a nice gun there, Habu. My starter target pistol is only a Walther P-22, 5 inch barrel and don't ask me anything technical about it- it's a point and shoot worthy of us lower IQ wimmin who can aim real good on basic instinct alone. I'm told that if I'm nice this year, something better will be under the Christmas tree, for an American Southern Xmas, to be sure. Am hoping for a lovely shotgun that can shoot clay birds that don't need field-dressing.

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  58. noooo..it was only demonstrated for me by a friend in the Operations Directorate. I did pop a composite head with it...it pinch a bit from the recoil..he told me it was my bad technique..said you just "tap', not mash down..kkinda like golf..let the club do the work.

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  59. For you, maybe, but what about the Mud People?

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  60. "... Marine Maj. Gen. Richard C. Zilmer told reporters in a telephone interview from his headquarters in Fallujah that he has enough U.S. troops – about 30,000 – to accomplish what he called his main mission: training Iraqi security forces.

    […]

    “Now, if that mission statement changes – if there is seen a larger role for coalition forces out here to win that insurgency fight – then that is going to change the metrics of what we need out here,” he added.

    […]

    In the long run, the war will not be won on the battlefield, Zilmer said. The outcome will be determined by the Iraqis' ability to compromise on their political goals, accommodate their sectarian differences and demonstrate to ordinary people that a democratic central government can serve their needs.

    “Until those things change, until those long-term effects are realized, then trying to solve the insurgency out here is going to be problematic,” he said. ..."


    Read allthe more at Westhawk.

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  61. catherine ...not knowing your size or level of pain tolerance consider a 20 gauge for bird and skeet. much less kick than a 12 and you won't feel punished at the end of a day..especially if you shoot a 100 rounds of skeet, which is not unusual.
    I just bought a stoeger coach gun cause i always wanted a side by side double barrel. it looks bad just in the guncase.

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  62. Why didn't we do that w/Hitler?
    We might still be havin fun w/him.

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  63. 'Rat:
    I love the way the BC Genie Babies tm say:
    "We don't fight wars like that anymore."
    Authoritatively, of course, as tho their G_d says so.

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  64. Dr..isn't that pitiful .. yeah they've eventually got to forge something like a nation but to admit we can't win it on the battle field is an entirely new mindset that is dangerous as hell...i can see it now.

    "tin-shun"
    " AS YOU WERE"
    men were going into battle, we're not suppose to win this one so just take the best care you can of the dead and wounded"
    "Sir"
    "yes soldier"
    "why are we losing this one"
    "someone in the pentagon gave the order and we follow orders!"
    "yes sir"

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  65. i just don't see how you two could be laughing at those two posts *before* you "accidentally" erased 'em. it seems like the cart is before the horse. i'm not sure i know the "whole' story on this matter.

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  66. As the old song says:
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    "Somethins gotta give,
    Somethins gotta give,
    Somethins gotta give!"
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    And it's gotta be THEM.

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  67. Buddy:
    I thot I 'splained:
    They were so funny in a pathetic sort of way that we decided to send them to the
    "Perpetuity Archive"
    Nobody's perfect (specially in Perpetuity) we misspelled it,
    and now they're in limbo.
    Comprendo?

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  68. "they've eventually got to forge something like a nation but to admit we can't win it on the battle field is an entirely new mindset that is dangerous as hell"

    Yeah, Habu, it does get frustrating not having declarative political ROE or knowing which caliber of words, spin and memes is best to use on the Islamist and leftist enemies we face- some of whom we need to kill and the rest to turn. And all is complicated by the knowledge that some are turned toward us by the more killing we do (perhaps indigies who have long-term influence) and still others turned off (certainly media, the EU and all transnational interests, each of whom has an amplified voice in the now and day to day.)

    You're right about the 20 ga. Is your Stoeger for skeet, and does the shorter barrel length help with handling or make aiming ever so slightly more difficult?

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  69. The Best Declarative Voice is Overwhelming Force Applied until resistance is futile, and is so acknowledged.
    Long long ago and far away.

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  70. But the screams emanating from the application of overwhelming force are horrific and unbearable- and they're downright paralyzing, doug- coming as they do from the NYT, EU and Kofi.

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  71. Winning suppresses the screams:
    Liberals would never admit it, but always has, always will.
    ...if we ever have a POTUS with the balls to do it again.

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  72. Think how much fun everybody was havin on the Road to Baghdad.
    We'll certainly not fun for everyone, but even the MSM embeds were more or less on our side.

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  73. My biggest gripe at the BC is one endless stream of why we can't do this or that.
    Kind of like DC.

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  74. More Pattons, fewer Phds needed.
    jmo

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  75. i'm just a little mystified at where they ended up an stuff.

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  76. Oh, will you SHUT UP about your goddamn posts?

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  77. Oh, well, sure, ok...but, the SECOND one, about Descartes and the civil service under the French Revolutionary Citizen's Committees, was just so bad, man.

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  78. HAVANA -- Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez pledged Thursday that Venezuela will support Iran if it is invaded as a result of the Middle Eastern nation's high-stakes nuclear standoff with the United Nations Security Council.

    "Iran is under threat; there are plans to invade Iran, hopefully it won't happen, but we are with you," Chavez told Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad at a meeting of the Group of 15 developing nations.

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  79. Doug, surely BC isn't yet another PC alphabet media organ, but, the no torture EVER under any circumstance is Colin Powellish. Powell is an American patriot, true, but he is also a sensitive internationalist who's become progressively sniffy and sniffily Progressive when it comes to war-making and Bush-whacking.

    Somebody find Buddy's posts. We need to be learned something.

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  80. We figured you stacked the Deck on that Descartes Post Bud, and thought you were gettin credit for a full plate for an ala Carte Effort.
    Thus the repost to Limbo er, Perpetuity, sorry.

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  81. you say it's now chiseled in estonia?

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  82. when i hear 'hugo', i think 'peanut'.

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  83. Catherine,
    How can Powell be a Patriot if he and Armi Sabotaged the Pres in time of war?
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    God knows how the war would have gone if he had not been incessantly "involved," imo.
    Wish Wretchard's old comments still were up and I could point to mine that said as much way back when.

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  84. I think of Mr. Peanut:
    He was Huge to me.

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  85. I think the Plan was to have Chalabis Exiles in charge, but Powell and Co. denyied that.
    Buddy just told me something about that the other day, but I regularly purge whatever he puts in my head.

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  86. Powell announced today:

    somewhere in there is that "most of the world is losing faith in the morality of the GWoT."

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  87. doug, what you said about your head, I made you say that.

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  88. The Dutchman was a highgrader from the Vulture Mine, in Wickenberg, AZ, buddy. Doubt he ever had a mine of his own. The geology in the Superstitions really is not that great for gold. The Totnto Basin on the other hand has a lot of traces, and plenty of placer finds in the creek.
    Al Sieber, the chief of the cavalry scouts, back in the day, had claims in the area. He and Tom Horn roamed the entire area, prospecting, when not hunting Apache, with Apache.

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  89. Shooting horror caught on film:

    Kimveer Gill, the gunman who killed one woman and wounding 19 other people in the bloody spree, had an obsession with guns and death, according to his online journal.

    Gill's journal posts on vampirefreaks.com paint a picture of suicidal and angry young man, keen to hasten a glorious death in a hail of bullets. "Like Romeo and Juliet - or - in a hail of gunfire," was Gill's response to biographical questions about how he would have liked to die.

    Caught on Film

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  90. I think you've got Yugo on the brain, aye.

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  91. Prob had a secret desire to be Juliet.

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  92. Those two would track, then kill 'em, even at funerals.

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  93. I'm certain those 20 shot-up kids really enjoyed being in Mr. Gill's dream.

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  94. I saw that picture:
    Looked like a bunch of Kindergartners disguised as Jihadi Fanatics.
    Damned IslamoNazis!

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  95. If they'd just fight fair we'd whup em good.
    You just wait.

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  96. In the end though, old Tom Horn was just to damn efficent, at killin'.
    Them damned Wyoming scum set him up with perjured testimony and hung him, he had been their trigger man, but was not trusted to stay quiet about his employeers other illegal activities.

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  97. Tom Horn was for real. The guy that played him in the movies, Steve McQueen, was also, for Hollywood, for real, in that Beat Generation Jack Kerouac on-the-road way.

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  98. "but was not trusted to stay quiet about his employeers other illegal activities."
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    Injun Mentor of Mine told me all about that.
    He was one great wise old dude:
    Frank Pierce.
    Family known throughout Central Coast Area in the old days.

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  99. About Powell, Doug: Just trying to be fair wrt his service in uniform, but I never did care for his political-mil sensibilities, esp. at State.

    Also, wasn't it Powell who recommended to Bush I that he halt the First Gulf War on account of the turkey shoot? His heart just wasn't into fixing and destroying Saddam's Republican guard after all that easy killing.

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  100. A different one:
    http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0163988/

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  101. Catherine,
    Yeah, the great balancing of powers act.
    Cept if we'd set up shop back when the Iraqi Shias loved us, who knows what might have been.

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  102. Code blue, doug, code blue

    Go read buddy's instructions
    I couldn't

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  103. That same kind of thing was at the bottom of the Gunfight at the OK Corral. Ike Clanton had given away the robbers of a stagecoach much previously, to one of the Earps, who was to sit on it until some cover was arranged for Ike's role. Soon enough, Ike started freaking out that he was being undercut by that same process, and was gonna end up with no reward. So when he went to drinking, he went to fantazing killing. He played both ends against the middle, then realized that the middle was on both ends. fortunately for him, while his brother and friends were getting shot to pieces for his own perfidy, he saw an opening and sprinted out of town. Somewhat sobered up, no doubt.

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  104. Yet another,
    "Pierce, Frank D., is the son of De Forest and Mariette Pierce, and is of Scotch-Irish origin. His father's people were from Vermont, and this genealogy shows that some of them were with Stark and the Green Mountain Boys in the war of the Revolution.
    His grandfather (on his mother's side), Samuel Shelley, took part in the battle of Sacket Harbor.
    "

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  105. Buddy,
    Rat wants you to re-do that link post, K?

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  106. The Green Mountain Boys offended the townies of the Continental Army. They were rough hicks from the sticks.

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  108. (another)Frank Pierce's Soliloquy

    Of all the tricks that have been played of late,
    The dirtiest and worst, every man says,
    Was the one I played myself, in the hope of fame
    It was helping the South to pilfer Kansas.
    Pack up my duds and take my leave,
    Hard work to travel back to Concord,
    For all my broken pledges these sighs I heave,
    It's a hard road to travel back to Concord, I believe

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  109. The Green Mountain Boys offended the townies of the Continental Army. They were rough hicks from the sticks. Benedict Arnold especially did not appreciate them under his command, as they were more loyal to Ethan Allen, who was one of 'em.

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  110. A friend of mine, buddy, Bob Boze Bell, wrote a couple of books about the Earps and Doc. He's done quite well in the Old West genre.
    Publisher of "Old West Magazine", which he's done pretty well with.
    Sometimes he has some 30 second spots on the Western cable channel.
    Seen on a few Discovery programs, from time to time.
    Hw used to be the cartoonist for "New Times" when it was an "alternative" (hippie) press, back in the '70s.

    Unlike Doc Assad, Cowboy Bob "flipped"

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  111. We pretended we were the Mountain Boys in School.
    We WERE from the sticks, at least.
    In fact we were IN the sticks.

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  112. Franklin Pierce is the only President to have said "I promise" instead of "I swear" at his Inauguration.

    Pierce was arrested while in office for running over an old woman with his horse, but his case was dropped due to insufficient evidence in 1853.

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  113. The rest of the "New Times" hippies ended up at the AZ Republic, after the Quayles of Wickenberg as well as the Vice President's residence, sold it to Gannett.

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  114. Sacket Harbour?

    All this time I thought Louis L'Amour just made that family up, whole sheet, no shit.

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  115. One of the fabulous furry freak Brothers was--i think--named "Cowboy Bob". IIRC, the 'toonist's name was Gilbert Shelton.

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  116. Who do you think bobal is, anyhoo?
    Potatee Farmer My Arse!
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    Get Pierced!
    ETERNALLY OBSCURE.
    The Franklin Pierce Bicentennial has come and gone, but his obscurity goes on forever. Celebrate the invisible legacy of America's 14th president with these fine products.
    link

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  117. Bobal happened upon Allis Chalmers and John Deere en flagrante dilecto, and it rendered him blind, babbling, and unable to post.

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  118. I call Mr Bell, Cowboy Bob, but I think I'm about the only one.
    But then I've real life cowboyed, more than most. Kind of get a kick out of his "expertise" about cowbots, though he is a pretty good researcher and illustrator.

    Damn, here I go braggin' on the guy, and I had the name of his magazine wrong.
    is the title, thats True West, not Tufus West.

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  119. rat, of all the wikis i've seen, the ok corral is the best--there's a month of excellent reading in the links.

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  120. Tufus loves her this I know,
    The Elephant Boys just told me so.
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    Political Graveyard

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  121. Historian David Potter concludes that the Ostend Manifesto and the Kansas-Nebraska Act were "the two great calamities of the Franklin Pierce administration.... Both brought down an avalanche of public criticism."

    More important says Potter, they permanently discredited Manifest Destiny and popular sovereignty.
    Abandoned by his own party, Pierce was not renominated at the 1856 presidential election and was replaced by James Buchanan.

    After losing the Democratic nomination, Pierce continued his lifelong struggle with alcoholism as his marriage to Jane Means Appleton Pierce fell apart. He destroyed his reputation by declaring support for the Confederacy and died in 1869 from cirrhosis.

    Philip B. Kunhardt and Peter W. Kunhardt reflected the views of many historians when they wrote in The American President that Pierce was "a good man who didn't understand his own shortcomings.

    To his credit, he loved his wife and reshaped himself so that he could put up with her aristocratic, nervous ways and show her true affection. He was one of the most popular men in New Hampshire, polite and thoughtful, easy and good at the political game, charming and fine and handsome.

    He was genuinely religious, yet he was a timid man with a shallow, rigid, old-fashioned mind which could not cope with a changing America. In addition, Pierce was hounded by guilt, temptation, and "just plain bad luck."

    He is the great-great granduncle of current U.S. President George W. Bush.

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  122. catherine (hours later),
    i bought the stoeger for home defense. It's a 20 gauge that I'm gonna let the wife have. She won't do much shooting but it's point and fire and it will kill a man.

    I use to do a huge amount of skeet shooting at MCAS Cherry Point. It cost $1.25 a round (25 shells)..the birds were free.
    My mother would give me $20 on Saturday and I'd shoot all day. I got so that the Marine Corps asked me to be the junior member on the team,they said I could be on the team since I was a dependent, but I had a high school baseball committment that conflicted with the Nat'l skeet tourney..we lost the state baseball champioship...darn. That was all 12 gauge.Love the sport

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  123. The Kansas-Nebraska Act was supposed to fix the free-slave state question in the territories. It soved a DC problem but did nothing--in fact by placeholding the solution-place, made worse--the problem among the people.

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  124. I don't care how hungry you are, skeet taste terrible

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  125. well bedtime..made one too many trps through the living room and the wife impressed me inot service..rearrange the furniture...but from what I've read to now I wouldn't have been much of a contributor..

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  126. This wiki piece is not that long, but the connection to today is just to beezar

    In 1918, certain remains of Geronimo were apparently stolen in a grave robbery. Three members of the Yale secret society Skull and Bones, including Prescott Bush, father and grandfather of Presidents George H. W. Bush and George W. Bush respectively, were serving as Army volunteers at Fort Sill during World War I. They reportedly stole Geronimo's skull, some bones, and other items, including Geronimo's prized silver bridle, from the Apache Indian Prisoner of War Cemetery. The stolen items were alleged to have been taken to the society's tomb-like headquarters on the Yale University campus, and are supposedly used in rituals practiced by the group, one of which is said to be kissing the skull of Geronimo as an initiation.

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  127. speaking of food, if my company don't hurry, i'm serving the hor's derves to myself.

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  128. In the good old days where I came from, we had Rotary Picnics up in the hills with Skeet for the the older folks, tadpoles fish and hikes for the kids, Tater Salad, Cold Beer and Soft Drinks, and so much more.
    Thus "the good old days."

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  129. Still think old GWB is not an elitist Yankee?
    Related, as he is, to old Franklin, as well as his dad and grandpa.

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  130. Ya might know 'Rat would come across that!

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  131. We et BBQed Chicken Larsen,
    Mud Folks like you got to field dress them skeet however you pleased.

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  132. all Texans is from elsewhere, except for the Caddo, Comanche, Witchita, Karankawa, and a dozen others who were themselves Mongols come down from the Bering land bridge during the last Ice Age.

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  133. No wonder the B,,,,,, is freaked out by Cemetaries!

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  134. Life is stranger than ficton.

    All will be blamed on the Free Masons, when Mr Brown, of the DeVinci Code, newest book is published

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  135. Payin for the sins of the Grandfather.

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  136. Our motto was, "Today Texas, Tomorrow the World!" --say, how're we lookin? pretty good i think!
    ;-D

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  137. Hawaiya is slated to be the 255th county, soon as we lern how to spell it.

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  138. W's Obit:
    "I Saved the World w/Compassion and Democracy"

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  139. that Tufus West Magazine is *great*, rat--thankee.

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  140. no politics after dinner, my gauche young pre-Texan.

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  141. AZ will be allowed to keep its major city, "Felix".

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  142. Oh, Yes, I'm the Great PreTexan,
    Woo oh Woo oh,

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  143. rat will be banished to a smaller burg, in order to develop a "sense of Yuma".

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  144. I'd make 'Rat live right near Felix.
    He'd keep him in line.

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  145. no, there's too much temptation in Glandale and Temper.

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  146. Glad you liked Bob's work, buddy.

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  147. I just GOTTA git something done!
    We need Carridine back to carry us through the wee wee hours.

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  148. oops--mi hermana y familia ha llegado--adiós! Buenos no-cheese! Hasta Lumbago! See ya Tamale!

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  149. GOP Leaders Back Bush on Wiretapping, Tribunals:

    Democrats used the GOP's allegiance to the Bush security agenda to redouble efforts to tie vulnerable Republicans to the president.

    "The role of Congress is to bring to bear its own independent judgment, to represent the American people and to forge policy, not to simply be a complacent rubber stamp for the president of the United States," said House Minority Whip Steny H. Hoyer (D-Md.).

    GOP Leaders

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  150. Maybe he missed the call from 2164st. Someone could point him in the right direction on his blog I s'pose.

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  151. Second Time's a Charm?:

    Since the U.N. was created in 1945, the United States has had 29 ambassadors. How does Bolton compare?

    Joshua Muravchik, the author of The Future of the United Nations, says Bolton should ruffle feathers at the U.N. and say "things that need to be said," as Moynihan and Kirkpatrick did. Then he'll rise to the top as a U.N. ambassador.

    2nd X a Charm

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  152. Sausage: WHO takes my name in vein?

    I resemble that remark, Sir/Madame! Steve Urkel is cuter, richer and decidedly more intelligent than Karridine, so there!

    A kewl participant here YooHoo'd me over the ether, and so I'M IN THE FRAY...

    Now, if I can only have enough time to learn what Elephant Bar and Obsession are about, before being expected to make some sorta RATIONAL comment or observation...

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  153. Obsession...

    Well, I just an hour ago got yelled at by several posters at LGF, one of whom brought to my attention a mild rebuke by Charles...

    So I'm motivated to post a relevant critique of this whole Obsessive, We Are DOMINANT (Allah'u'Akbar!) struggle we're in, precisely because so many at LGF think that ANY inclusion, in threaded discussion, of the only man in history to have had his tablets delivered and read to Queen Victoria, Kaiser Wilhelm, Franz-Josef, Tsar Nicholas, Napolean III, Pius IX and Abdul Aziz of the Turko-Caliphate...

    ...is inappropriate!

    His BEING, His coming and His Teachings are focal, pertinent and relevant in this religious/political war we're in, touching directly on the 'Palestinian' problem, the Zionist/Israel/Jewish problem (His world headquarters is on Mount Carmel, Haifa, Israel); the Arab-Muslim aggression; the Muslims Are God's Chosen aspect; all misogynist problems Muslim; the sexual-deviant, man-boy and male-bonding aspects present...

    In fact, His coming is on-thread and pertinent in virtually ANY discussion of things Arabic, Persian or Muslim, and being uncomfortable with this reality WON'T MAKE HIM GO AWAY...

    Obsession, the film... I look forward to seeing it in toto

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  154. World News
    Times Online September 15, 2006
    Oriana Fallaci, iconic Italian journalist, dies aged 77.

    A woman better than 98% of men.
    Courageous,gritty. A loss to truth.

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  155. Welcome to the Bar Dr. Karridine!
    Please, rationality is not welcome here.
    We all know it was my 12:21:38 AM post that brought you here, even tho you didn't read it.
    ---
    LEARN FROM THE PAST,
    FIGHT FOR THE FUTURE!
    ---
    You might want to visit the
    Menses Supper Club in the previous thread to get a taste of the recent past!

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  156. Oriana Fallaci, RIP
    Whata Gal, What a Heroine.

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  157. I Propose Gen Powell go give all the leaders of the ME blowjobs to restore our "MORAL CREDIBILITY."
    Whata Jerk!

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  158. The Tehran Calculus
    By Charles Krauthammer

    Lays out habu's thinking, vis a vie Iran, but has a different schedule than either habu or I.

    habu's window of hope closes in 50 days or so, mine opens as his closes, shutting on Mr Bush in April or May '07 at the latest.
    Mr Krauthammer leaves it open for another year.

    Time will tell.

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  159. Traitor Fonda's Deep Thought of the Day.
    (soon to be a daily radio treat)

    "Laugh doesn't mean fluff,
    Laugh can be healing,

    Laugh, laugh is what you do when something touches a cord with you.

    Laugh is can laugh of recognition
    ." (sic)

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  160. Senator John Kyle of Arizona:
    Of 1 million illegals rounded up,

    140 Thousand were convicted felons in Mexico!!!

    See no evil Bud and Tufus:
    No problem here!

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  161. I propose all the illegals in jails throughout the nation be transported to W's Ranch in Texas for safekeeping.

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  162. The Pope is now compared to Hitler, as he tries to fire up another round of Crusades.

    ANKARA, Turkey — Turkey's ruling Islamic-rooted party joined a wave of criticism of Pope Benedict XVI on Friday, accusing him of trying to revive the spirit of the Crusades with remarks he made about the Muslim faith. ...

    ... Benedict quoted from a book recounting a conversation between 14th century Byzantine Christian Emperor Manuel Paleologos II and a Persian scholar on the truths of Christianity and Islam.

    "The emperor comes to speak about the issue of jihad, holy war," the pope said. "He said, I quote, 'Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." ...

    ...Salih Kapusuz, a deputy leader of Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan's party, said Benedict's remarks were either "the result of pitiful ignorance" about Islam and its prophet, or a deliberate distortion.

    "He has a dark mentality that comes from the darkness of the Middle Ages. He is a poor thing that has not benefited from the spirit of reform in the Christian world," Kapusuz was quoted as saying by the state-owned Anatolia news agency. "It looks like an effort to revive the mentality of the Crusades."

    "Benedict, the author of such unfortunate and insolent remarks, is going down in history for his words," he said. "He is going down in history in the same category as leaders such as (Adolf) Hitler and (Benito) Mussolini." ..."


    The Crusaders are coming,
    the Crusaders are coming

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  163. DR,
    Nice post on Dr Krauthammer, thx

    I truly respect his thinking and pay close attention to his words.
    What he outlines in terms of short term economic dislocation (don't ya hate those weasel phrases,gawd I hate to write'm) is grim.
    However the alternative is not short term and enslaving.
    I always think of Apollo XIII and how no one gave up on working the problem.
    Well on a daily basis more and more think tanks,pundits,commentators etc see wowa as inevitable.
    The good KK's, Krauthammer and Kissinger have this week come to a war conclusion.
    The only remaining factor in maintaing my timeline is that IF the President loses either the House or Senate I don't know how he pulls off a war. The Dems will go after him above all other matters. As you said, another 50 days.

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  164. Sunday's German Elections

    I read an srticle this morning that the neo nazi in germany are picking up support at a brisk rate.
    In this coming Sunday's elections they could pick up 5% of the vote in northern Germany..seems the right sees the Islams as a big problem and are in the vanguard of adddressing the situation. This time they're being low key and playing within the boundaries.

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  165. Does the availability of Ethanol help keep gas prices lower? Is Possumtater an ass-kicking marsupial? Gas Prices in Iowa: $1.96 gallon.

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  166. Mohammad, the Dung Dealer

    DR...the Pope quotes and is excoriated for saying what was the truth.
    Islams great problem is their ideology, fo it is certainly not a religion. Lying for then to spead the faith is as good as using the sword to do so. It has been that way since Mohammad quit stepping in camel dung in the caravan and started spreading it instead.

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  167. Rufus,
    I hope you saw my note to you yesterday on using alternative fuels at Bonneville to set new speed records in several classes.Ethanol was a big winner, and when things like that happen at Bonneville it reverberates throughout the auto industry.
    Won't be long now.

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  168. There will be a series of demonstrations and riots across the Mohammedan Arc. The Cartoonafada just the warm up round for next event. Which is still going to be a long way from the "Main Event".

    Will the Pope apologize as the mayhem mounts?

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  169. The other edge of the globalization. There's a McDonald's and a Citibank to burn, on every streetcorner in Islam. Oh well, can't be helped. Tell it, Pope, sir.

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  170. It has already begun

    "... Pakistan's parliament condemned the "derogatory" remarks today and demanded an apology. The country's foreign ministry said they were "regrettable" and claimed they would encourage violence.

    Vatican spokesman the Rev Federico Lombardi issued a statement defending the speech after Pope Benedict returned to Rome. "It certainly wasn't the intention of the Pope to carry out a deep examination of jihad (holy war) and on Muslim thought on it, much less to offend the sensibility of Muslim believers," he said.

    He insisted that the pontiff wanted to "cultivate an attitude of respect and dialogue toward the other religions and cultures, obviously also toward Islam".

    But Turkey's top Islamic cleric Ali Bardakoglu asked Benedict to apologise and made a string of accusations against Christianity, raising tensions ahead of a planned papal visit to the country in November.

    He said he was deeply offended by the remarks and called them "extraordinarily worrying, saddening and unfortunate".

    The 57-nation Organisation of the Islamic Conference, based in Jeddah, Saudi Arabia, said it regretted "the Pope's quote and for the other falsifications". Militant Islamic websites also attacked the Pope.
    "

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  171. I expected some sort of play on the US election, anyway, didn't you?

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  172. WAR INDUSTRY

    Were I President Bush I would start looking at turning the crank on the war industries a bit faster. Ford is prime for new business. Do we need air superiority in small numbers but untouchable in performance? Even an F-22 can't be in two places at one time. ie Venezuela and Iran.
    Instead the Air Force is reducing manpower. I beleive this is a dangerous gambit. Why?
    There is an active attempt by China,Russia,Iran,Venezuela and NGO proxities to "envelop" the US and harass our lines of communicaton.
    We are going to need a bigger Navy,Air Force,Marine Corps, and Army to handle mutiple treats coming on line. No magic bullet can kill in Tehran and Caracas at the same time.

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  173. The last two US soldiers that were captured in Iraq, by the "Enemy", did not recieve treatment in accord with the Geneva Conventions.
    Indeed those troopers were butchered, alive.

    If we pass Mr Bush's reforms, our troops could be in danger if captured, according to Mr McCain and Mr Warner. How about a touch of reality for those fellows in DC.
    Mr McCain, a real Manchurian Candidate, has publicly forgiven his torturers, but is Mr Warner just ignorant?

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  175. PRESIDENTIAL NEWS CONFERENCE

    11:15

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