
There has been some consternation over at the Belmont Club. The host wretchard wishes to discourage running commentary. It is my intention to invite members of the BC to sit back relax and comment away. Gentleman, start your engines. As this is experimental and designed for chatting, there is no need to archive chats. When I feel the thread is stale, we will clean the bar.
Hi there, folks.
ReplyDeleteWell , hello..I'm trying to listen to the President outline just WTF went on that aided in 9-11 coming about. He sounds firm in resolve and is in full offense mode here at the start of the election season.
ReplyDeleteAll this is good.
But not enough.
He must strike Iran.
From War of the Worlds
ReplyDeleteto
War of the Words
Worms! Roxanne!
Worms!
Doug, Good to see you here. I hope others come and that the Pajama Cartel will not be able to put a chokehold on the free flow of our thoughts.
ReplyDeleteI do recognise they set it up so they can do exactly that but it's not even vaguely in the spirit of the Internet of free speech.
From "suggesting" a topic to discuss to enforcing speech on only that topic is one step away from what one can say about that topic. It's nice to have (at least for now) an alternative.
I got a link there to comments here.
ReplyDeleteThe problem was when there are no comments, the error thingie comes up.
I don't go to PJ often.
Too many liberals.
...last time I checked.
Doug, have you read the book "Unrestricted Warfare"
ReplyDeleteIt's witten by two Chinese Colonels, endorsed by their boo-bahs and extensivly read in D.C.,particularly the Pentagon.
Trouble is, doug, you're just to "silly".
ReplyDeleteRead that somewhere, else.
The discussion is, in the minds of many, to revolve around the host's subject matter. I have always taken a "Wide View" of the subjects and responses. To the irritation of some readers, in the past.
Since I found a "common thread" in most of the daily stories for the past few years, people have said that I'm a pessimist. When that is anything but the truth. Trouble is that all I know is what I read in the papers, or current electronic facsimiles.
Rat,
ReplyDeleteMy response has been posted.
Since I don't know Luc, but I do know more than I need to know about Ari, the course of the comment followed.
This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.
ReplyDeleteJeff Goldstein has good observations here:
ReplyDeleteSorry about losing last night's comments. I tried doing some creative reorganizing and I lost them. I saw my mistake, so it should not happen again.
ReplyDeleteBuddy,
ReplyDeleteI read your link by Andrew Sullivan. When arguments are made in the fashion he has produced they are false flag ad hominem attacks.
Concerns about the timing of the speech,ie. using it as a political tool to force a vote on where COngress stands on the issue of prosecuting terrorist is a brilliantly timed move. Before an election the most important issues should be debated and voted on so the public is informed as to who stands where.
Nancy Pelosi's comments following the speech were focused on her agenda. The President has one too. Nancy wants to critise the prosecution of the war and high gas prices. The President sees a problem far more dangerous and complex challenge in fighting terrorism and wishes to discuss it. She looks the fool.
But hand in glove with all of this 4th generation warfare is the old saw that the generals are always fighting the last war. Well I don't believe that's true this time around, although I do think a show of more unadulterated might, such as levelling villages gets the word around quicker than handing out candy.
It's not the generals fighting the last war it's the world institutions that have been in place since the end of WWII that are outmoded and sclerotic. The Geneva Convention,NATO,the UN, all are relics of decades gone by.
Todays battlefield is one beyond limits. It encompasses the entire social realm and the continually developing sphere of technology where space is now measured in nanometers. Today those spaces are interlocked with each other. An example is outer space. It can be seen as a natural space, and also as a technological space because each step in the militarization of outer space requires a technological breakthrough. Information acts the same way on the interdynamics between society and technology. The battlefield is now ubiquitious and can only be characterized as omnidirectional.
It is no longer simply the weapons of the traditonal battlefield, but economies,election,medicines,education and many more that are now and forever going to be ruled and manipulated by our enemies. Computer voting? A ripe field for warefare. Education by Wikipedia, where constraints on content were initially non existent. Electronic universites where formulas and codes can be changed and in turn used incorrectly.
The list is endless as we move into the nanoworld, but our accords and treaties, our mutual defense pacts, our own laws do no even begin to address changes that are here now. It is not even a recognized problem by many. It's the smoothbore vs. the rifled musket. One was accurate at 75 yards, the other at 200. What a pity.
2164th,
ReplyDeleteThanks again for being such a good sport.
second allen's, and habu, damn, that's lead-post worthy. You're describing Ambient War, where every choice is political, and all politics is the war.
ReplyDeleteWhy is it the very next Amendment, after "Free Speech"?
ReplyDeleteIt's like (1) here's your driver's license, son, and (2) here's your vehicle.
Hey 2164th - where'd the title (Elephant bar) of your blog come from? Is there a story there?
ReplyDeleteA long time ago in another life -time, in Kassel Germany was an art-deco bar frequented late at night by an international crowd. The mahogany bar had red up-lighting but was always in a blue haze of cigarette smoke. The woman, Nordic beauties and the music Marlene Dietrich style from the forties and fifties. The Elephant Bar, always fascinating, and only disappointing enough to keep it interesting.
ReplyDeleteCome to zee cabaret, my friend--
ReplyDeleteBuddy,
ReplyDeleteThanks for the compliment about my homily being lead stuff.
The challenges outlined are ,as I said here now. The Chinese and Russian both assault our commercial and military internet systems daily and yet we are now turning out fewer computer science majors from colleges than ever before.
Our small group, with the exception of a Rush Limbaugh and a few others are really all that stand between us and a civil war in this country. The masses are far too busy consuming their lives with trivialities to be concerned.
I mean we have a military right? is their attitude.
I get Churchill's illness which he called"the Black Dog" when I ponder what is vs, what could be. I was at one point here in FL on the fast track to be a state rep, then senator, then g-d knows...I had the backing of the state party chairman, the mayor of my town of over a million, the US Representative and the entire apparatus. But I'm not a lawyer and I'm quick to retort so as I told my wife ...it ain't worth it..at some point someone with money will sue you and then you're bankrupt ..walked right away and never looked back ..didn't even return phone calls.
I see wowa for a long time. Just as soon fly fish in Montana and sit around a campfire than frustrate myself into an early grave .. but if it comes I'll be the old man guarding the flank.
habu, that's about my own personal script, too. Only a few details vary. The choice is pretty much made by 50 or so, whether the public life or the old fart who tries to contribute from the background. It's funny, but drifting away from the phone has struck me too as a major life turn. since i sold my biz, I hardly ever answer it--the dwindling number of people who still try to contact me have to email or fax. It's WONDERful ain't it?
ReplyDelete;-D
One thing that interested me about the Asia Times Spengler column was the reference to Sistani giving up on politics. I didn't know about that. Spengler says that this will spell the death knell of Islam in Iraq. He says that the violence occurring there is sectarian and of a tribal nature rather than Sunni/Shia.
ReplyDeleteIt's been said that the fundamentalist uprising is in reaction to modernity coming to the Muslim world. I don't think fundamentalist Islam will be long able to stem the tide of a modern, decadent, materialist world.
Where it not for the nuclear or biological threats, it would be mostly a matter of watching the Islamic world go post-modern and secular just as we are. I wonder if we will see Islam in Europe go the way of Christianity in Europe.
You think?
habu_3; 3:50:42 PM
ReplyDeletere: "we are now turning out fewer computer science majors from colleges than ever before."
Not to mention American born PhDs in hard science, math, and engineering. We do have a whole passel of lawyers and social-scientists, though. Any hope of talking or studying the enemy to death?
whit; 4:26:21 PM
ReplyDeletere: Spengler
Spengler must stretch to breaking the comparison of jihad to the sacrament of communion, I think. But, even if given that, jihad has been easily and often abused, to the harm of the West.
The recent troubles in France do not indicate a moderating of Islam. In fact, many thousands of young French Muslims are radicalized to a degree heretofore unimagined. The UK obviously is equally imperiled by unassimilated Islamic youth.
Time is not our friend, I fear, nor are the Saudi bankrollers of Wahabism. But, what is to be done when the enemy remains unrecognized?
whit; 4:26:21 PM
ReplyDeletere: Spengler
Spengler must stretch to breaking the comparison of jihad to the sacrament of communion, I think. But, even if given that, jihad has been easily and often abused, to the harm of the West.
The recent troubles in France do not indicate a moderating of Islam. In fact, many thousands of young French Muslims are radicalized to a degree heretofore unimagined. The UK obviously is equally imperiled by unassimilated Islamic youth.
Time is not our friend, I fear, nor are the Saudi bankrollers of Wahabism. But, what is to be done when the enemy remains unrecognized?
Optimistic look at the education problem:
ReplyDeleteAllen,
ReplyDeleteThe worst thing about the enemy is that they are both unrecognized and unorganized. We can defeat them, but the whole game has to change. There has been a shift to people beginning to recognize that Islam is the proble. Some do not want to admit it, but they know it. When that sinks in, anything is possible. The big problem with them not being organized is where the killing has to stop.
Today, National Public Radio zeroed in on the issue of not allowing the defendant to know the classified intel used by the prosecution. Military JAGS were not encouraging, they testified before a Congressional hearing that this goes against established juris prudence.
ReplyDeleteWe are tying ourselves in knots!
BTW - Did anyone hear from Lindsey Graham or John McCain today?
Allen:
ReplyDeleteSpeaking of imperiled UK, today Blair "gave in" and said that within the year, he would step down. Looks to me like the UK has or will soon be going dhimmi.
After 7/7 there was tough talk about deporting radicals but Parliament let that kind of action die on the vine. The liberal government just couldn't bring itself to do the hard work. I think this is what we face in the US if Dems gain control.
Demitude.
People just do not believe that we are in the predicament that we are. You read the headlines on this from German Radio. I do not believe that the average European cares, but the average european opinion maker does and they are the same as the Left in this country. They have twisted the terroist criminal into a civil rights issue.
ReplyDeleteEurope | 07.09.2006
European Officials Slam US Secret Prisons
European lawmakers and human rights officials bashed the US government Thursday after President Bush admitted for the first time to the existence of secret CIA prisons in Europe.
Europe's top human rights official called the US government's actions in fighting the so-called war on terror "criminal" Thursday and said that Washington's admission of secret CIA prisons has justified European suspicions.
"Kidnapping people and torturing them in secret -- however tempting the short-term gain may appear to be -- is what criminals do, not democratic governments," said Council of Europe President Rene van der Linden. "In the long term, such practices create more terrorists and undermine the values we are fighting for. Europe will have no part in such a degrading system."
US President George W. Bush's admission that secret prisons run by the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) exist vindicated the council's months-long investigation, Van der Linden said.
"Our work has helped to flush out the dirty nature of this secret war, which we learn at last, has been carried out completely beyond any legal framework," he said. "Human rights violations committed in the fight against terrorism are in fact victories for the terrorists, whose very aim is to destroy the rule of law."
First acknowledgment
Bush on Wednesday for the first time acknowledged that the CIA was running secret prisons where high-level al Qaeda figures captured since the September 11, 2001 terrorist attacks were held and interrogated. He did not name their locations.
Khaled el Masri says he was kidnapped and tortured by the CIA
Since media reports revealed the CIA operation last November, Bush and other members of his administration have refused to publicly discuss the program.
The US president also said that 14 high-profile terror detainees had been transferred from CIA custody to Guantanamo Bay, for possible prosecution, adding that they would be protected by the Geneva Conventions. Most other detainees held abroad -- less than 100 since 2001 -- have been released or turned over for prosecution.
Breaching human rights
The 46-member Council of Europe in Strasbourg is the continent's main human rights watchdog and is independent from the EU.
Its final report on a six-month inquiry into the CIA charges said that several European states had helped the US carry out "extraordinary rendition" flights, the US practice of transporting detainees to other states for interrogation.
Conducting a separate probe into the controversial issue, European lawmakers in June agreed to extend their investigation with a focus on trying to find out whether Romania and Poland have hosted illegal CIA prisons. Both countries have denied the allegations.
Poland and Romania have allegedly hosted secret prisons
Clandestine detention centers, secret flights via or from Europe to countries where suspects could face torture or extraordinary renditions would all breach the continent's human-rights conventions.
Exposed to ridicule
The vice-chair of the European Parliament's special committee investigating CIA prisons in Europe said Bush's disclosure also puts European leaders in a bad light.
"By his admission that the CIA has indeed practiced illegal kidnapping and detention, Bush exposes not only his own previous lies," said Sarah Ludford. "He also exposes to ridicule those arrogant government leaders in Europe who dismissed as unfounded our fears about extraordinary rendition."
EU lawmakers and civil rights campaigners have long called on US officials to admit the US used a network of secret prisons and have transferred prisoners between them on covert flights. In July the EU parliament voted to continue its investigation into CIA secret prisons for another six months.
DW staff
2164:
ReplyDeleteI get the impression that some Euro governments have cooperated with us on the renditions, etc but appease the anti-american sentiment with the public statements. That's not to say that there aren't plenty of watermelons in Euro governments but (and maybe it's wishful thinking)I have to think most know the threat. It's just they have to distance themselves from us because of all their crazies.
Whit,
ReplyDeleteYou are on to something there. I keep holding on to the idea that the Achilles heel for Islam is in woman's rights.
The European problem is very similar to the US. The opinion makers are the small percentage of activists from the sixties. People believe what they see in the media. Anti-Americanism is their stock in trade and like him or not GWB, played into the sterotype. All this gets swept away with a spectacular coordinated terror attack in Europe.
ReplyDeleteYou don't hear a peep out of the left or the NAGS about Islamic abuses of women.
ReplyDeleteThey have been conspicuous by their absence.
I think finding those two bombs on the German train a few weeks ago went a long way toward waking up the Germans.
ReplyDeleteIt is inexplicable. There is one silver lining in the whole bloody mess and it is becoming apparent that we cannot win without scrapping the entire multicultural diversity nonsense. it all will have to be smashed in order to first idntify and call Islam by what it is and then do what has to be done.
ReplyDeleteIt did, especially with the man on the street. There is a real solid base of very angry Europeans that will explode with the right provocation.
ReplyDeleteDoug, I thought this might interest you. You were talking on this subject a thread or two back.
ReplyDeleteGosh, here I am, free to say anything that comes to mind, and no one will reprimand me or count my posts.
ReplyDeleteFREEDOM IS TERRIFYING!
OK, now that I've got that out...
I read the Spengler piece and as usual he is fascinating.
Fascinating and completely unconvincing.
One old guy, Sistani, gets tired, or fed up, or whatever, and Spengler concludes that Islam (whatever "Is"lam is, to paraphrase Bill Clinton, because I sure as hell don't know what it "is") is in some sense a dead letter.
Well, it's an exciting thesis.
Jamie Woolery
This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.
ReplyDeleteDid anyone ever post an answer to the confusion of Rufus and me about Wretchards comment that he would not "mutilate" someone to get info even if his son's or mothers life was at stake?
ReplyDeleteWas he just playing devil's advocate, or what?
Otherwise, it seems to be divorced from reality/common sense.
He'll have to speak for himself.
ReplyDeleteThat's a big help, Whit!
ReplyDeleteWhy don't you make him! ;-)
Oh, Doug, I noticed over on another site that you are "ethically challenged."
ReplyDeletePlease sit over on the other side of the bar and don't ever bothe to ask me to spot you a twenty 'til Tuesday.
;)
Whit,
ReplyDeleteI missed that one, thanks!
---
rem 870 and Buddy:
Thanks for the links.
2164:
ReplyDeleteIf you give me a key, I have something to share. Preview - it concerns the Croc Hunter and reptiles.
This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.
ReplyDeleteSorry Doug, I spoke too soon, it's Buddy and Catherine that have the ethics problems.
ReplyDeleteYou can sit anywhere. My apologies.
Reports of the death of Islam, while wildly applauded, may be premature.
ReplyDeleteWhat I found significant in the essay were the 1) irreconcilable differences, 2) primitivism, 3) the improbability of the mythical "moderate" Muslim, and 4) total submersion of self.
“A great gulf is fixed between Islam and Christianity, which do radically different things for different people.”
“Islam is the revenge of traditional society against the encroaching empires…”
“As an Islamic leader, Sistani understood much better than any Western observer that the search for a "moderate" Islam, an Islam of personal conscience rather than an established state religion, was a fool's errand.”
“Islam is not a doctrine, I reiterate: it is a life…"
Spengler that is.
ReplyDeleteThanks Whit,
ReplyDeleteI never sit near Buddy anyhow, since he's always having little "accidents" and blaming it on those around him.
Savage was talking about Larry King interviewing the Croc Man underwater and having bubbles coming out in two places, if you get our drift.
Not sure if Bud is younger or older than Larry.
Allen,
ReplyDeleteI like Bill Bennet's:
Religion is as Religion does.
...as we, the Buddists, atheists, and etc around the world cower in fear of Christian and Jewish Jihadis.
Over at another site, Trangbang just went postal on the moral equivacators.
ReplyDeleteIt was wonderful to behold!
How do i give you a key whit?
ReplyDeleteYou want to co-administrate this bar?
ReplyDeleteDoug: 6:55
ReplyDeleteCanadians cower in fear of a Jewish Jihadi .
terista says:
ReplyDeleteWe seem to have a decent clientelle, sort of, mostly.
Go into Blogger and set me up as a contributor.
ReplyDeleteThis comment has been removed by a blog administrator.
ReplyDeleteHey Folks,
ReplyDeleteOne concern that is worse now than even WWII is the number of "citizen" inside this country that would cause trouble if we got in a really hot situation. I'm not talking about the Islamic hard core cells, I'm talking about those who are sympathetic to them and would easily transfer allegiance
(if they new what that meant). Your Compton,Ca's, Detroit's etc where the Nation of Islam has a nice tight following and would end up with funding from the George Soros crowd.
Prior to WWII there were many groups that openly held meetings displaying the NAZI flag and pledging to defend the fatherland..many did return...returnings ok but staying and going urban guerilla is another entire deal. I see that as a major problem. This "I am an American but wait a minute while I pull the flag down and stomp on it and burn it" is really bull shit..American Demographics Mag just wrote an article that said 40%+ in LA do not speak English..that was only one example..we definitely have a demographic and sociopathic problem right here.
we are only in business two days and getting more comments than 90 % of the blogs. I need someone with a PC. I use safari on a mac and there is alot I cannot do, being html challenged.
ReplyDeleteThis comment has been removed by a blog administrator.
ReplyDeleteThis comment has been removed by a blog administrator.
ReplyDeletedoug,
ReplyDeletere: "we, the Buddists, atheists, and etc around the world cower in fear of Christian and Jewish Jihadis."
As very well you should!
In the omnious words of that incomprehensible Sage, Jamie Woolery:
"I'm so glad I'm a Jew. Kneel before me, World!"
"Feel my infinite power!"
Or, whatever.
would you be whit@blogger.com?
ReplyDeletedid you send me an invite at the email address i gave you?
ReplyDeleteI think you r in.
ReplyDeleteBuddy, That not answering the phone thing is so nice.
ReplyDeleteI think my wife is a bit concerned that I don't have a bunch of guys to hang with(in their world go shopping with)
I told her guys usually didn't do that. One of two friends, maybe three if you're a golfer (I'm not). So am I going anti social? Well compared to high school, like yeah dude I knew everybody cause I played all major sports plus was on the track team. Now it's like I'm comfortable waiting for the package to come to me from Cabelas.
She's burning out and ready for the Montana phase now too. Anyway I still vote for the warmonger and defender as opposed to the income redistrbutionist.
Well each generation has their own set of challenges.
2164, I spent quite a few hours unsuccesfully trying to figure out how to post on "Flares", and never could get it to "take". You don't know stupid until you seen my stupid.
ReplyDeleteDoug, I'm not going to sit idly by and be Larry King and Fart joked. Watch it, or I shall criticize you VERY harshly.
Good Whit.
ReplyDeletere:
ReplyDelete"Did anyone ever post an answer to the confusion of Rufus and me about Wretchards comment that he would not "mutilate" someone to get info even if his son's or mothers life was at stake?
Was he just playing devil's advocate, or what?
Otherwise, it seems to be divorced from reality/common sense. "
---
Rufus asked this question, I asked it, then asked it again right after Wretchard commented:
He chose to answer Trish and leave this question unanswered.
Does this make sense to anybody?
For the life of me, it's impossible for me to picture myself refusing to torture someone if I know a family member will die, or millions will die Hiroshima style.
Whit ,2164 et. al.
ReplyDeleteYou were mentioning the Islamic women and how they're treated..a wedge issue if democracy takes hold. But I am also courious about how much brain power is lost in civilizations that don't show women how to drive to the grocery store and runs all the other errands. Lets at least hope they have a johnny mop for the hole in the floor.
Is my question @ 8:15:13 PM out of Bounds even at the Elephant Bar?
ReplyDeleteDoug,
ReplyDeleteOf course you torture. But then can you imagine any other answer from Habu the Hun?
First get an older dentists drill,one that turns about 200 rpms, and start drilling teeth through thr gumline right to the nerve.
Doesn't work...have object drink lots of ice tea and take large doses of diuretics. Insert a glass tube into the penis and crush with a hammer..it doesn't take much force to break the tube..this method is messy,messy though and usually they pass out, after they piss out. The generator attached to the genitals is a universal fav.
best of luck
Guys, don't you imagine it all done with drugs, anyway?
ReplyDeleteDoug,
ReplyDeleteYou can also force feed Claxton fruit cake to the object if it is the holiday season. They'll talk.
The Senate passed the "Pork" Database Bill.
ReplyDeleteMan, don't you just know that a bunch of Senators, and congressmen with the internet had never been invented?
Rufus,
ReplyDeleteYeah , it's probably the most effective other that making them listen to "The Surfer Bird" over and over again.
But then where's the fun for the administrator. You've got to find a way to incentivize those who do that stuff. I mean it does take a talent to really get into the nuclear code stuff.
2164
ReplyDeleteBentwaters and Woodbridge RAF
8:53:06 PM - I'll ask squishy if that passes his ethical test!
ReplyDeleteIf they can't drive, they can't shop. Only gather food, which is what shopping is a substitute for anyway.
ReplyDeleteSorry girls, just kidding! :(
Habu:
ReplyDeleteYou've mentioned George Soros several times. How this man gets a pass from western media is beyond me as I suspect he is one of the most dangerous men in the world today. He is prepared to spend tremendous amounts of money to support his "open society" crap. I did some reading on him last fall in an old issue of Atlantic Monthly from 1997:
This is what George Soros believes and has spent millions if not billions of dollars for.
Our sense of right and wrong is endangered by our preoccupation with success, as measured by money.
Open Society – where rights of individual are safe guarded but shared values hold society together. Open society is middle ground between extremes such as Communism, and nationalism and laissez-faire capitalism. Open society improves the imperfect society by trial and error, insists on freedom of expression and protecting dissent.
Offers “limitless progress.” Open society must regard it's own shared values as a matter of debate and choice. The concept of “open society” must be the only absolute. Declaration of Independence should be revised so that instead of stating that “we hold these truths to be self-evident” it would acknowledge our fallibility. There is no ultimate truth; our beliefs are expressions of choice.
Laissez-faire incompatible with concept of open society and has effectively banished income or wealth redistribution
We have entered a period of disorder which laissez-faire is incapable of addressing.
U.S. and UK laissez-faire policies prevented open society development of Russia as well as reform and reconstitution of the United Nations.
I heard the other day that he is spending vast sums in Europe to promote his agenda. I suspect he thinks he can subvert the whole continent much easier than the US.
Ladies,
ReplyDeleteI do hope you know i was joking.
I feel we have a sophisticated,intelligent,
articulate, and svay as group of broads as any blog around. ok dames.
why do you think they still put buttons on men's suitcoats..we're all animals..well actually after 25 years of marriage to a 2nd degree blackbelt I'm just a go-fer.
what i don't get is how come at 58 1/2 she poops out push'n that lawnmower around two acres in the Florida heat and humidity?
Maybe you ought to buy the little lady a little bit lighter lawn mower. Heat's brutal, let her back in the house after 2:00 pm--she'll get more work done in the long run, that way.
ReplyDeleteokay, that was a *joke*.
ReplyDeleteAdvice from a friend:
ReplyDeleteIt is important for men to remember that, as women grow older, it becomes harder for them to maintain the same quality of housekeeping as when they were younger. When you notice this, try not to yell at them. Some are over sensitive, and there's nothing worse than an over sensitive woman.
My name is Jim. Let me relate how I handled the situation with my wife, Diana.
When I took "early retirement" , it became necessary for Diana to get a full-time job, both for the extra income and for the health benefits that we needed. Shortly after she started working, I noticed she was beginning to show her age.
I usually get home from the golf course about the same time she gets home from work. Although she knows how hungry I am, she almost always says she has to rest for half an hour or so before she starts dinner. I don't yell at her. Instead, I tell her to take her time and just wake me when she gets dinner on the table. I generally have lunch in the Men's Grill at the club so eating out is not reasonable. I'm ready for some home cooked grub when I hit that door.
She used to do the dishes as soon as we finished eating. But now it's not unusual for them to sit on the table for several hours after dinner. I do what I can by diplomatically reminding her several times each evening that they won't clean themselves. I know she really appreciates this, as it usually seems to motivate her to get them done before she goes to bed.
Another symptom of aging is complaining, I think. For example, she will say that it is difficult for her to find time to pay the monthly bills during her lunch hour. But, boys, we take 'em for better or worse, so I just smile and offer encouragement. I tell her to stretch it out over two or even three days. That way she won't have to rush so much.
I also remind her that missing lunch completely now and then wouldn't hurt her any (if you know what I mean). I like to think tact is one of my strong points.
When doing simple jobs, she seems to think she needs more rest periods.She had to take a break when she was only half finished mowing the yard. I try not to make a scene. I'm a fair man. I tell her to fix herself a nice, big, cold glass of freshly squeezed lemonade and just sit for a while. And, as long as she is making one for herself, she may as well make one for me too.
I know that I probably look like a saint in the way I support Diana. I'm not saying that showing this much connsideration is easy. Many men WIll find it difficult. Some will find it impossible! Nobody knows better than I do how frustrating women get as they get older. However, guys, even if you just use a little more tact and less criticism of your aging wife because of this article, I will consider that writing it was well worthwhile. After all, we are put on this earth to help each other... Jim
***************************************************************************************************************************************
NOTE: Jim died suddenly Thursday June 22nd..
He was found with a Calloway extra long 50-inch Big Bertha Driver II rammed up his backsidewith only 2 inches of grip showing. His wife Diana was arrested, but the all-woman Grand Jury accepted her defense that he accidentally sat down on it. Diana is being very strong and seems "at peace."
whit,
ReplyDeleteYou couldn't be more right about Soros. Check this out if it's still in Frontpage archieves.
The Shadow Party: Part I
By David Horowitz and Richard Poe
FrontPageMagazine.com | October 6, 2004
I downloaded six or seven sections but haven't had time to read then. They're akk from the new best seller which is really scary about what he's attempting
10-4, will do.
ReplyDeletewhit..Frontpage sept 6th"shadow party defeat leibernman" will give you a great start and one of the links may be where I ended up downloading a ton of stuff.
ReplyDeletewhit oct 6th
ReplyDeletewhit ..nope
ReplyDeleteI found it.
ReplyDeletewhit..great..i'm not adept with html but i'm trying to incorporate it into my daily learning
ReplyDeleteDavid Horowitz is doing wonderful work for the nation.
ReplyDeleteSorry to hear about Jim sitting on that golf club. Reminds me of a writer I knew, Jack Torrance, who passed away suddenly at the Overlook Hotel.
Whit,
ReplyDeleteDarned if you aren't a gentleman to the ladies,especially your wife.
My wife often wants to unclog the septic tank line from the house to the tank.
I've shown her how to crack the top of the tank but that's really not needed.
It was showing her how easy it was for her to dig down to the connector pipe, hole it, and then,after retrieving the snake from Home Depot you just feed'r in until the flow begins.
I never raised my voice, not once, and when she had to clorox off the unit and got some into her blisters, well I gave her a "brave girl" talk..it helped.
I'm work'in on a book, "Household Hints" by Habu Bobbitt
Habu said:
ReplyDelete2164
RAF Bentwaters
RAF Woodbridge
USAF Goose Bay Labrador,
RAF Martlesham,
RAF Lakenheath,
US Army Post, Kassel Germany,
Larisa air Base Greece,
Cartwright Station Labrador,
Dan Nang AB Viet Nam,
Ernest Harman AB, Newfoundland,
Keesler AFB Biloxi
Lackland AFB Texas
Raytheon Spencer Labs, Mass
You broke the code HABU
Da Nang
ReplyDeleteBuddy,
ReplyDeleteYou're right about Horowitz. He's credible because he was there at the beginning with Jerry Rubin,Bobby Seale, Tom Hayden and the SDS. I believe he was even the editor of Ramparts magazine, a mixture of all the Marxists,Troskyites,Maoist..you name it.
Now he's exposing the lies and they hate him for it. His parents were both members of the CPUSA. I just Wiki'd to chk some things and I remembered more than I thought Wiki-up.
2164..was in Da Nang several times myself w/ the Company. My brother in law, the one I mentioned was a FAC at Con Thien (2nd tour) was an A-4 driver out of Da Nang. You're gett'in up to the sharp end of the stick up there. Glad you made it out OK.
ReplyDeleteBTW looks like a good crowd building for only the second night.
We need to get trish and some of the other ladies (NOT ALL) over for a colloquy....
Yeh, he's from the inside and knows of whence he speaks. I imagine plenty of other young Reds eventually see the light (how could they not, sooner or later?), but have too much invested to ever come clean and turnabout. Not David.
ReplyDelete2164..
ReplyDeleteEver see the Blackbirds take flight from Mendenhall?
I think we had a pretty fair opening. The intent was to get the pressure off the people that wanted to post more often and at the same time not be anxious that wretchard was going to freak out and toss us all out. I notice a very pleasant change over at BC. Wretchard is more involved in the comments and there is less tut tutting.
ReplyDeleteI was assigned to a support squadron 2164t comm, TAC base RAF Bentwaters. We did alot of TDY rotating the F-4's with DaNang. not bad duty at the time. Three to six months in DaNang and back to the UK. We had hot showers. The marines were in tents washing in cold. When they came in from the field we let them use the AF hot water latrines. They would throw their uniforms in the trash cans, grab three cold budweisers and stand under the shower till another marine kicked them out smoking winstons and lucky strikes while showering. You could always tell when the marines had used the latrine. They smelled so bad having been out on patrol for up to thirty days and thenk stunk the place up with aqua velva.
No but you would have had a hell of a hard on watching the B52's take off frome Goose.
ReplyDeleteAnd we hosted Curtis LeMay for a fishing trip to Cartwright in Labrador. The weirdest memory I have was we were a TAC nuke base at Bentwaters, working nights in the Victor Alert areas, looking at those F-4's and F105's with a nuclear weapon strapped to it's belly, flight crews, ground crews and AP's all ready to launch those birds for a one way trip to say hello to the Russians. We had those babies up and gone in three minutes.
ReplyDeleteYeah, I think I heard where Jerry Rubin became an Amway distributor...pretty far from Marx.
ReplyDeleteIt's easy for kids to be brain washed by commie parents or coopted by commie professors..but if they don't become rabidly dogmatic and keep learning about systems of governence among men, they have to see the light.
Geo. Washington gave great credit to Thomas Paine for his publication of Common Sense during the Revolution. It was a huge success and turned many a Royalist into a Patriot.
I keep try'in to learn simply to remain sane in a world thats bereft of almost all the values I grew up with.
I remember my Dad as we left El Toro MCAS chasing down a speeding Marine and giving him office hours for not being a proper Marine and breaking the law..and hell I was only about seven.
I remember all the old movies where the guys would ask."were you scared"..the anwer would be of course if your not you're ly'in"
Well I asked my Dad once and he said he never gave it any thought. Once crossing Texas we stopped at a diner for breakfast(circa 1956).At the four way stop a COE w/ trailer was on fire. The trailer was a grimy tanker filled with ???. My Dad sprinted about 60 yards to the guys rig,jumped up and told him..they put out the fire...when we entered the diner the people gave my Dad a standing ovation. Gosh I was one proud kid.
Sorry to ramble.
Right after 911, I had a flight from AC where the NJ AFNG fly F15's I think. I was there for a real early flight and two went up in tandem, hot with the AB's smokin. The sound and smell, lifted the hair on my arms and brought a choking tear to my eye. It had been some time since I was on a flight line at night and was a real rush of memories.
ReplyDeleteLove the smell of jp4 in the mornin
ReplyDeleteThem F-4's looked like they were going straight "Vertical," out of Danang. It was quite a sight.
ReplyDeleteWere you on Monkey Mountain Habu?
ReplyDeleteDoes anybody here remember ba mui ba (33) beer?
ReplyDeleteMan, three hot ba mui ba's would knock your dick off. Shit must have been fifty proof.
2164....I did have the good fortune to see several Buff's taking off. I think the first time was at TRAVIS AFB. i don't think they were based there but tree or four I think go gas and left..I was the kind of 17-18 yr old that would go to the sandwich shop at the tower at Cherry Point MCAS and watch the F-4's take off. At night it was a sight...I love the sound of those big J-79's w/ afterburner stoked up ..the sound of freedom I use to say to myself. And my envy quotient was off the chart!
ReplyDeleteRufus,
ReplyDeleteI'm not a beer drinker much but when in Rome, you know..so i had a couple. I wished it had been one.
Saigon near the end.
We had an air show one time at bentwaters. A bunch of the F4 jockeys had beaucoup hours inVN and decided they were going to give the English and US personnel one hell of a show. The Britts came in with their tornadoes and the US inwhat were the new F4's. Their were NATO dignitaries and Prince Phillip and they tore the wings off those babies. The Britts came haul assing in from the four points of the compass face to face hugging the tarmac. They threw the ass of the planes down and went straight up, rolling the entire way up. People were screaming , ducking, laughing with nervous energy and two F4's shot over breaking the sound barrier and before they got over that four more F4's came in to repeat what the britts had just done. This with evryone on the flight line. The base commander almost pissed his pants but it was the most exciting air show anyone has ever seen.
ReplyDeletedown 3 33's and smoke a chesterfield between the beers. quite a rush.
ReplyDeleteHard to believe those birds are all 60s and 70s technology. F-15 especially--and still an air-superiority weapon. Of course, the Moon Landings were also 60s technology. damn. tempis fugit.
ReplyDeleteBuddy, If you look at the sheer size and audacity of the US miltary mission in the fities and sixties, it is astounding. We had 500,000 GI's in Germany alone. We had 1/3 of the B-52's in the air. It was a staggering show of force.
ReplyDeleteChesterfield? We had a better smoke than that. Oops, I mean, yeah, them chesterfield, yeah, that's what I meant.
ReplyDeleteSeriously, though, it's funny you mentioned it. The first time I ever got on an airplane was flying to San Diego (Hollywood Marine, you know.) Anyway, I bought a pack of those horrible tasting sumbitches; but, the plane didn't crash, and I bought a pack of Chesterfields every time I got on an airplane for the next 20 years, or so. Maybe, it was ten, but what the heck.
2164 ..never in country too long since it wasn't my mission. i made it to con thein, the hill of angels to see where my brotherin law had done his major killing. mostly being in country was totally voluntary for DDS&T, Office of Special Projects but I always went. Me and another guy who'd been an AIR MARSHALL when that program very first got started. We both liked the adventure and knew how to fire M-60's, ak's M-14's,16's so they'd let us go if nothin big was work'in. We did get into Laos and Cambodia on official business but it was not a friendly place to be.
ReplyDeleteA chesterfield will make you dizzy and settle your nerves for sure.
ReplyDeleteHabu,
ReplyDeleteI thought this comment (much abbreviated below, I'm just putting in the introduction to indicate which one I mean), over at BC, was quite original and intelligent:
I read the link by Andrew Sullivan. When arguments are made in the fashion he has produced they are false flag ad hominem attacks.
Concerns about the timing of the speech,ie. using it as a political tool to force a vote on where Congress stands on the issue of prosecuting terrorist is a brilliantly timed move. Before an election the most important issues should be debated and voted on so the public is informed as to who stands where...
Jamie Irons
Yeah, the Sea Bee's always had some "Chesterfields."
ReplyDeleteUSSR wasn't fooling around, either, were they. Still can't believe we chopped up all those Salt Treaty B-52s. The film is porno, watching that blade come down so the birds could be cut in large pieces for the Soviet satellites to see. Now I think we have only 75 or so left. Pisser.
ReplyDeleteI grew up shooting a single barrel 12 gauge. Started hunting at 11. My father and uncles all had automatics and double barrels, but I used to piss them off getting the first and only shot off that I was going to get. I was always bringing "their birds" down. When I got to basic and was given the M1 garand I could not believe what you could do with that gun. When they told us to go to rapid fire, I thought I am in heaven but was glad I was not paying for the ammo.
ReplyDeletebest air show I got to see was private at Bogue Sound Marine Air Field. ALL the brass was there. I mean all. Dad was C/S 2nd Marine Air Wing and they wer gonna show off the new HARRIER. It must have been around 1966. One came in over the tree tops and came to a dead stop in front of the reviewing stand. Did a left face and tipped it's nose!.then it set down for a minute and then took off straight up and it was the loudest thing i've ever heard. just as it transitioned to horizontal flight and went off two more came by do'in all the throttle they could muster...every Marine general had a grin from ear to ear.
ReplyDeleteBuddy you're right..temous fugit wat too damn fast.
ReplyDeleteAllen,
ReplyDeleteIn the omnious words of that incomprehensible Sage, Jamie Irons:
"I'm so glad I'm a Jew. Kneel before me, World!"
"Feel my infinite power!"
I don't know, I think I'm rather incisive and preternaturally clear, generally speaking.
;-)
If you'll recall the context of that remark, I was making fun of Cedarford.
He doesn't understand how foolish he can look with his "neocons" and "Jews" comments.
When I was a resident at UCLA's Neuropsychiatric Institute, I was privileged to have as a supervisor a brilliant Swedish psychoanalyst, Lars Lofgren. Once we happened to step onto an elevator with a pair of general surgeons. One related to the other, quite innocently, a dream he had had the previous night.
After they got off the elevator, Lars turned to me and chuckled. Without any sense of his being some kind of "superior" being, he said, "It's always funny how people who know nothing about the unconscious will unwittingly reveal everything about themselves without realizing they are [doing just that]. Always be careful who's around when you discuss your dreams.
Jamie Irons"
wait wait that's tempus fugit...i don't know what that other shit was
ReplyDeleteALSO
I think this spot allows for a break from the hard driving points and egos that can get hurt. I think as more discover that they can come over for a cool one and an easy conversation it'll do both site wonders ... you can only hit the damn anvil so many time before you've either got a headache or your forearm falls off.
Habu, Saddam got a little unlucky in GW I. He was all set up to wipe out one or two of our divisions with that setting the oil wells on fire, thing. He had a couple of divisions sitting there underneath the smoke, and our f-16's couldn't see them.
ReplyDeleteHOWEVER, it was the Marines that went up that way - with their Harriers - And their Cobras. Oops.
teresita said:
ReplyDelete2164 said"
That harrier is a showman's dream machine. I saw a demo in England wher they popped up out of a stand of trees and went to horizontal after doing some 360's. You ask yourself, "Did I just see that?"
McDonnel Douglas, the plane manufacturer never did get it and neither do you 2164....and i will never mention your name again, especially if I know what is good for me..
There ya go, habu--Jamie's here--ask him about black dog resulting from adrenaline junkie finding hisself insufficiently adrenalized--
ReplyDeleteMaybe there's a pill fer it?
:-\
Jamie,
ReplyDeleteC-4 is a brilliant guy, but he just cannot seem to control himself. The other night I just asked him what is your prescription about the Jewish connection? I do not think he goes any further with his thinking. I am not Jewish but I can understand why the Jewish guys freak over C-4, but he has some fascinating points of view and in his heart I really do not believe he is more than talk about the Jews. It is perplexing to me.
Jamie, you are the shrink. What do you make of him?
ReplyDeleteI don't have to ask Allen.
ReplyDeleteI swear, it's a disease, 2164. Nothing else fits the criteria.
ReplyDeletejamie,
ReplyDeletegood to have a doctor around when all the guys are tell'in tales of derring do.
I have this one recurring dream that I'm in Satre's "No Exit" with Hillary,Maxine Waters,Shakira and me. We actually share a laugh.
Am I sane?
BTW, all you guys like Habu, 2164th, Rufus et alia who are real Marines, soldiers, airmen or company men, are my heroes.
ReplyDeleteThank you for your service.
Jamie Irons
(He who has never fired a shot in anger.)
We don't like our psychiatrists being armed anyway. We all know were seriously fucked up.
ReplyDeleteHabu,
ReplyDeleteI have this one recurring dream that I'm in Satre's "No Exit" with Hillary,Maxine Waters,Shakira and me. We actually share a laugh.
Am I sane?
How the hell would I know?
;-)
Jamie Irons
In general, I'd say there's strong elements of envy, paranoia, and sado-masochism in it. Not to mention projection and rationalization.
ReplyDeleteAnd what the hell, what if the jews ARE dangerous, aren't they always dangerous to the no-good rotten sonsabitches of history? Being an anti-Jew is like saying "Hey, I'm a hateful bastard, why don't anyone love me?"
Speaking of seriously fucked up, anyone seen Doug?
ReplyDeleteHabu, it would depend entirely on, "was Teresita there?"
ReplyDeleteRufus, go to the head of the class!
ReplyDeleteIt's really kinda unfair to ask the Dr. a diagnosis from flat screen. He'll need several hundred 10's and 20's in an unmarked paper bag left at Boy's market in marina Del Rey , Ca. first. I mean the man has bills.
ReplyDelete2164th,
ReplyDeleteAs to what is going on with C4, I won't venture a guess. (Buddy knows my long-distance diagnoses are pretty laughable.)
But I feel sorry for him, I'll tell you that.
Jamie Irons
Rufus,
ReplyDeleteif she'd been there the only laughter generated would have been after several 33's and several "Chesterfields!"
G'Nite All, you too, P'Tater, wherever you are.
ReplyDeleteBut it's the "tax cuts for the wealthy" crap that gets me--it fly in de face o de numbers, and puts the advocate into position of being interested in punishment, and willing to spend opportunity-cost public money to pay for the pleasure of it.
ReplyDeletejamie..33 was a potent beer in Vietnam ..Chesterfield were special brand "cigarettes" with magic power
ReplyDeleteJamie we have a three post rule. If you only post three times you have to buy a round.
ReplyDeletewell, another day tomorrow morning with the attorneys so I'm join'in Rufus...happy trails to all.
ReplyDeleteHabu, that might have been a pretty tall order, even for 33's and "Chesterfields."
ReplyDeleteGnite rufus. I shouid get some rack time myself. Anyway, who ever stays up. Put the dog out and try not and set the place on fire. Smokem if you gottem.
ReplyDeleteI have to fly to France. Don't say it. Habu, keep an eye on the joint while I'm gone.
ReplyDeleteWhoa, You Ain't Joinin' Me, Fancy Boy. You gotta play that shit somewhere, else.
ReplyDeleteSpeaking of seriously fucked up, anyone seen Doug?.
ReplyDeleteHar har har
2164th,
ReplyDeleteOK, I'll buy, but it'll have to be tomorrow.
It's 9:21 PST for me, and believe it or not, after a twelve hour day at work I'm beat. (I'm not the glutton for punishment I used to be!)
In a few days I'm going fly fishing!
Don't let Buddy stay up too late!
Jamie Irons
This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.
ReplyDeleteIgnore previous, here it is, a great short story about fly fishing:
ReplyDeletepart 1 and part 2.
Oh, i found doug, he was at the barber shop.
ReplyDeleteB U D D Y
ReplyDeleteYou should be a contributor!
ReplyDeleteC4's syntheses of colorful racism atop the concepts of the enlightenment and evolutionary psychology mirrors intellectual traditions undergoing comparable shifts in the past few years. I think this speaks to why some things seem so ambiguous in our culture at the moment: that is to say they are in a sort of transition.
ReplyDeleteInfact, I'd say C4 verges on a classic post-Schwarzeneggerian process, if not perspectice.
For instance,
Schwarzenegger asks "Who is yo daddy and what does he do?" and in so doing re-appropriates the functional values that argue for patrimonial lines of descent. His famous critique, "you lack discipline," was a rebuttal to the feminist-driven consensus and tries to re-introduce values into what has become sufficient politically correct syntax. To the aesthetes who meander or even celebrate this syntax, Schwarzenegger famously told them "you'd betta leave some room for my fists, becuz Im going to ram it into yo stomach!" and so manifest the notion of "backlash" which came to be a mainstay of popular conservative rhetoric for decades hence.
While this may seem particular or even antiquated, his point is larger than the scope of a Kindergarten Cop's tenure or a Commando's duty: it is the embodiment anew of the transcendental, a source discouraged and mocked for decades now. The faceless probabilistic forces that bestowed victory upon him in Predator became explicit rules in a defined Terminator "game." This re-structuring, which C4 seems to be participating in, continued into Jingle All the Way and even End of Days.
What's remarkable is how prior to his gubernatorial ascendance, he at least complicated if not compromised his philosophy by diverging from notions of transcendence in the 6th day, what with the ambivalent treatment of his clone and the divinations of technological materialism that implicitly occured during his scenes of befuddlement with computers.
I think this is what people refer to as "post-schwarzeneggerian" thought, in that it represents a turn from faith in the strength of the rules and values of the old. But in turning away from the security of old methods, the individual is born anew into an existential grandeur seen in Last Action Hero and again, End of Days. It is of little surprise that the post-schwarzeneggerian Arnold re-appropriated his role as the Terminator in T3 so as to synthesize these two competing philosophies. I think its obvious that was his greatest work, albeit very sophisticated.
hands off, there's also evidence that the post-Schwarzeneggerians originated in the work of the original scholars, the Conanite Bore-barians.
ReplyDeleteInquiring minds want to know.
ReplyDeleteIf as C4 asserts, Jews control American media (including networks, financing, producing, screen writing, marketing, etc.) as well as the Presidency, Congress, and Supreme Court, why, then, will ABC (an integral part of the Jewish media cabal) have to pull or substantially edit its 911 program, based on the whinning of a former gentile president?
Related, how did all those gentile academics get to be Commies, "for free"? Looks to me like the 'conspiracy' would've blamed-shifted, according to the way conspiracies conspire.
ReplyDeleteHands Off The Bong Fascist:
ReplyDeleteI didn't quite understand it, but I really enjoyed your post!
Jamie Irons
Buddy,
I'll read that Hemingway again (it's been too long!) today... I think I told you once on another thread somewhere that I think "The Snows of Kilimajaro" -- those non-victims of non-global non-warming -- is one of the most beautiful pieces of writing in the language...
Today Is Friday--he was pretty good in there--
ReplyDeletejamie--well, since it's about fly-fishin.
ReplyDeleteAnyhoo, I was composing this rejoiner to C4 and then when I tried to post it, 'comments' had been disabled. Since I've lost so many comments to blogger, I copy 'em before I post, and my rejected answer is thus sitting here in the mouse, so, so to not've wasted the writing time, here:
ilia @ 8:03--that's an awe-ful question. What does 'endurance leads to is "more endurance" (is all i can imagine).
C4, you're edging into Holocaust backwash, one of the shock waves of Nazism that will continue to slosh back and forth across Western Civ for the next thousand years. European Christendom cannot hate Nazism out of itself--it is inside the body, even if as a walled-off tubercular cyst.
So, it's no surprise that in the post-war period, remnants of the object of an *actual* genocide would seek a transnational progressive defense against any possible future reprise.
That's why I keep arguing with you--you're looking at symptoms rather than the disease, or effects rather than causes.
We need to fight the likes of ACLU/Soros, apart from, on different grounds than, religion.
I understand what you mean when you say that the enemy must be named. But for Christ's sake don't name it wrong.
That path leads back to magic--and we must understand that we are beneficiaries of a recent and astounding clear lesson that magic can flip to evil without the faithful even knowing it.
Buddy, like you, I wished to kindly rejoin C4, but was locked out, stymied at the instant I hit the publish bar. Drats! And, like you, there is little point in wasting a devastatingly, preternaturally, approximately speaking, quasi-brilliant bit of prose.
ReplyDelete“May I respectfully suggest that a Jew cannot be an atheist, if by Jew you mean one who religiously practices or, at least, recognizes the essential tenets of Judaism?
Paradoxically, perhaps, one can be born a Jew without ever being a Jew; just as so called Roman Catholics feel no compunction in violating the tenets of the Church and hold the Pontiff in no higher regard than an organ grinder. "Swifty" Kerry comes to mind.
At long last, you have made a distinction. As you relate, "Orthodox" Jews are well aware of the dangers to Judaism, Israel, Christianity, and the United States posed by renegades and imposters.
The question then becomes, why a supposedly well informed administration has repeatedly placed itself on the defense. For example, by naming a former ACLU member in good standing to head-up the Gitmo defense team? Furthermore, why has it failed to bring charges against the NYT, under any number of pertinent statutes? It seems to me that you give both the administration and the ACLU much more credit than due.”
2164th said...
ReplyDeleteI am on my way to Europe for a week. I will check in when I can. Take care of the joint for me. Good opening week. Pass the word discreetly. I am still looking for some more contibutors so you can post your own articles. Whit stepped up.
My thinking is we can do a take on the lighter, absurd funny, ironic stuff. that includes most of the Left Democrats and all of congress. As John fffing Kerry would say, "au revoir".
PS
Anyone wanting to be a contributor. You can email me an email address that you can sign in with. Send to:
geodesikdome@yahoo.com
Have a good safe trip, 2164. Defend your president over there, dammit.
ReplyDeleteI think Buddy is correct to cite the Conan texts, as they are considered the spiritual if not literal re-interpretations of Austrian folk tradition, as in the vein of "Hercules in New York."
ReplyDeleteI would say that post-schwarzeneggerian thought is a popular label, but I cannot agree to its description of the epistemology that underpins the Schwarzenegger School's intellectual tradition.
I take issue with the post-Schwarzeneggerian School, insofar as they seem to posit that Schwarzenegger's philosophy developed into a form or narrative, which was highly critical of his earlier works. Its unfortunate that so many mistake Schwarzenegger's increasing English proficiency with a diverging criticality purposelly applied to his earlier works. His playfulness must, by their reasoning, be an act of subversion, born of an intent to undermine if not qualify earlier theoretical works.
The most glaring failure of these models is how they forgo any mention of the folk Austrian epistemology that see's physical labors as one in the same with the intellect.
That is, in this tradition, knowing was born of laboring and science was derived from sweat as much as inquiry. It was an appeciation of worldly experience, and its transcendental nature over the muddle and stifling noological landscape within the human mind. The absence of language in Schwarzenegger's earliest works embody this epistemology, insofar as they drive ideation from exertion, and present veracity in the form of vivacity. Like long beards, scars or limps, Schwarzeneggerian thought understands the ineluctable connection between the intellect and the environment that interacts with it.
Just because he was not an inspired bookworm, should not lead one to believe that his eventual appropriation of language speaks to a lack of faith in these methods.
Aspirinsgenitals is, or are, supported, I think, at least elastically, within the critically indistinct postmodest referential, by Dr. Thaddeus Westerson's seminal work: Harnessing Byzantine Fault Tolerance Using
ReplyDeleteClassical Theory.
Discussion of methodology here.
re: "Where the Hell Is Doug?"
ReplyDeleteLISTEN!
This globe-spanning adventure in New Media Reportage will never get off the ground if acrimony, criticism, and backbiting is going to characterize interactions between correspondents in the various timezones around the world.
One example:
M Larsonne reporting from Paris, takes a typical cheese-eating cheapshot at me by ferreting out the ONE publicity shot of me taken before shaving.
Such malignant editorial license is quite beyond the pale, and could result in the revocation of privileges for the use of the 2164th's Elephant Bar tm franchise license issued by the Fairness in Blogging Initiative as laid down under the auspices of Kojo Annan and Michael Powell.
If this thread is not edited for historical accuracy and attention to politically correct media hilarity, your Blogospheric Privileges could be revoked without notice.
Thank you.
Pineapple Time Zone Special Correspondent Doug
"All The News That Cans Easily, In Chunks, With Corn Syrup!"
ReplyDeleteQuestion to all
ReplyDeleteCan Terri Schiavo be said to have invented a beyond-the-brain political theory that could not only mobilize zombies but also underpin a new social and economic contract, which would serve to re-integrate them into the world of the living?
What are the broader implications of the apparent super-strength of the undead?
What do quality, access and cost in health care mean to zombies?
Given their diet of living brains, how can our society adapt to reduce tensions?
I'll be live blogging this
ReplyDeleteAnyone else be in the area?
Asphaltsgenuflector, there are already some bodies of evidence:
ReplyDeletebuddy,
ReplyDeletere: Major Jill Metzger, USAF
She has been found!
No report yet on the particulars.
I hope the government of Kyrgyzstan did not resort to strong-arm tactics to gain intelligence. That would really ruin my weekend.
oh, Lord--thank goodness. Something about her non-military being--that is being a female--really puts the chill in the spine.
ReplyDeleteback in the 80s, the proto-AQ skinned several Russian soldiers alive, and mailed the videotapes directly to their families. Before the Rus changed the mail systems.
By the shores of Gitche Gumee,
ReplyDeleteBy the shining Big-Sea-Water,
Stood the wigwam of Nokomis,
Daughter of the Moon, Nokomis.
Dark behind it rose the forest,
Rose the black and gloomy pine-trees,
Rose the firs with cones upon them;
Bright before it beat the water,
Beat the clear and sunny water,
Beat the shining Big-Sea-Water.
Any objection to “ilia capitolina” coming aboard? Could be interesting, the writer is a bright bulb.
ReplyDeleteIf “yes”, how to finesse it without offending Wretchard.
I get a kick outta ilia's posts--he/she stands his/her ground smartly. But this thing here is open to all, anyway, right? I mean, jeez, Ash the extra(and i do mean "extra")terrestrial--?!
ReplyDeleteGoing back to Buddy's post earlier this week about the Gulf oil discovery, here is a piece that ought to cool out the peak oilers...
ReplyDeleteJamie Irons