“Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we.” - George W. Bush

All The Best

THE ELEPHANT BAR IS CLOSED

I want to thank everyone who participated in the Elephant Bar over the past twelve years. We had millions of visitors from all around the World and you were part of it. Over the past dozen years, two or three times a night, I would open my laptop and some of you were always there. I will miss that.

My plans are to continue my work with technology and architecture. You know my interests and thoughts.

At times, things would get a little rough in the EB. To those of you that I may have offended over the years, I apologize. From all of you, I learned and grew.

An elephant never forgets.
Be well.

Deuce, 21 June 2018

Wednesday, September 19, 2007

There are Too Many Mosques in This Country. Democrats Outraged at the Thought.


Democratic National Committee Loves these.

Rep. Peter King: There are "too many mosques in this country” The Crypt

New York Rep. Peter King, a prominent House Republican, said there are “too many mosques in this country” in a recent interview with Politico.

“There are too many people sympathetic to radical Islam,” King said. “We should be looking at them more carefully and finding out how we can infiltrate them.”

King is the ranking Republican on the House Homeland Security Committee. And as an outspoken advocate of strong anti-terror measures, he has been unafraid to ruffle some feathers in his drive to protect the homeland.

When asked to clarify his statement, King did not revise his answer, saying “I think there has been a lack of full cooperation from too many people in the Muslim community.” The interview was for a profile of the committee, as part of Politico’s Committee Insider Series.

Earlier, King had said in an interview with radio and television host Sean Hannity that 85 percent of the mosques in this country are controlled by “extremist leadership,” a comment that prompted strong condemnations from many religious organizations and from the Democratic National Committee.




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  2. There is one politico, from NYCity/Long Island area and a staunch Rudy supporter, climbing on the Rudy band wagon back on 8Mar07.

    Guilt by association
    Judge a mans character by the company he keeps,
    Birds of a feather, flock together.

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  3. Judge a man's character by the dogma he subscribes to. Sharia and the constitution don't mix. Our ideas of human liberty as they have evolved in the west aren't found in the koran. I don't like biological images, but I can't help it, they are a virus, replicating in our body politic. Declare them subversive organisations, and save ourselves a lot of trouble down the line. We haven't gone through all our history in the west to end up arguing with these folks on our own turf. They are a threat to our way of life.

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  4. I'm not voting for the Mayor of 9/11.

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  5. By the bullet or the ballot, in the end they would want to put the burka on Trish.

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  6. "We haven't gone through all our history in the west to end up arguing with these folks on our own turf. "

    We endlessly, and somtimes fatally, monumentally, argue with the folks on our own turf. Where have you been?

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  7. By the bullet or the ballot, in the end they would want to put the Jews and Christians in their place.

    Habu had a good word for it--immiscible. The muslims don't get along with anybody, in the end.

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  8. There aren't many here yet, and we are arguing already, you are right. Kick 'em all out.

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  9. In many muslim countries they'd stone Ms. T to death. In the others just make her life miserable.

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  10. i say...
    let the muzzies build as many mosques in the usa...

    just for every 100 mosques they have to open and ALLOW 1 church and 1 shul in arabia

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  11. "By the bullet or the ballot, in the end they would want to put the Jews and Christians in their place."

    Do you really feel that weak, bob? That imperiled?

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  12. Living in Bogata there may not be any great social pressure to even vote. Such is the hassle. Or maybe it's just like a mail in ballot here.
    Went to the last local election, over in a 7th Day Adventist facility, voted in person. Normally now, just mail it in, at our leisure. Weeks before hand, quite convienent.

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  13. "Living in Bogata there may not be any great social pressure to even vote."

    Well for heavens sake why would there be?

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  14. Well to the why ...
    To influence some electoral event in your home State. Congressman, School Board or the like.
    or because the Ambassador, the Head of Station or a General puts on an Election Participation Drive amongst the US population living in Columbia. Then there could be scial pressure to participate and vote.

    Either could be motivation to vote.

    I enjoy voting against sales and property tax increases, usually they pass.

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  15. I won't be there, Rat. A month too soon.

    And I'm not worried about it.

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  16. Not yet, Trish, and not in my lifetime, but sometime later I can imagine it.

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  17. Here Trish, todays offerings from around the world. But everybody knows all this stuff. We ought to save ourselves the trouble.

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  18. "Not yet, Trish, and not in my lifetime"

    Good.

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  19. Bobalharb: In many muslim countries they'd stone Ms. T to death. In the others just make her life miserable.

    In this country we just make muslims miserable by saying they build too many places of worship. But no stoning yet.

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  20. BOBAL: Back in Utah, a Grass Injustice

    They cuffed her for having brown grass, but last time I stopped in Ogden for a bite I thought we'd get cuffed for having brown skin.

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  21. As Bobal pointed out earlier people will see and hear what they wish to see and hear. Peter King's conversational tone is typical of someone not carefully watching his words. You can see the video at Politico.com and decide for yourself what he meant. As for me, I can easily accept his clarification that he meant there are too many mosques preaching Wahhabist/Salafist theology. It will be extremly interesting to see if this story develops legs.

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  22. Ms T:
    A few threads back you made the statement that a "true Christian" could not support the death penalty. I must have missed that in the New Testament. Could you direct me to the chapter and verse?

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  23. Into the eigth year after the attack, there is a big kole in the ground.
    Maybe next year they'll have the foundations poured for the new complex. If a fella wanted to see the hole, nows the time, before something new pops up. Wouldn't be as dramatic, as seeing a phoenix raising, in the arms of a dragon.

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  24. "It will be extremly interesting to see if this story develops legs."

    Hopefully not.

    Your tax dollars at work.

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  25. For Bobal:
    As reported on the Beeb, something has fallen from the sky in Peru and reportedly is making people sick and killing animals.

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  26. Sorry, it was the Guardian which reported the Peru story.

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  27. To damned many Clits, some people say.
    ---
    This article brought to you by National Organization of Women.
    not
    In Egypt, a Push Against Genital Cutting
    Health care workers observed a minute of silence following the death of a 13 year-old girl during an operation to remove her clitoris.
    Photographs: Banning a Tradition

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  28. As we all know:
    Legs are not to be trusted!

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  29. Moonbat comment of the day?
    "In this country we just make muslims miserable by saying they build too many places of worship. But no stoning yet."
    ---
    Have you ever watched Steve Emerson's 1994 Video,
    "Jihad in America?"
    Just Curious.

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  30. All over the map:
    Just finished "The Looming Tower" by Lawrence Wright and the excerpts from Rowan Scarborough's new book.

    Maybe the authors were drinking from the same well but the portraits they painted of the CIA were appalling. Wright wrote of the animosity between Michael Scheurer and John O'Neill. But in fairness to Scheurer, O'Neill rubbed everyone the wrong way. Wright also wrote that the CIA took "the wall of separation" to extremes which the law did not require.

    Scarborough's inside look at the Porter Goss year showed an agency with career bureaucrats more intent on fighting change than al-Qaeda.

    It's pathetic.

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  31. Turns out there was only one real expert:
    John Oneill.
    No wonder they hated each other, Scheuer was faking it.
    But he's antisemitic, so he gets the pass.
    Would be interesting to see if Wright has read the follow-ups about Scheuer, and what he has to say about that.
    Yet another example of the CIA tasking someone unfit for duty, see Joe Wilson.

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  32. Doug:
    I didn't think Sheuer was "faking it" He was in charge of the bin Laden group at CIA. I thought he had a pretty good handle on things. What did I miss?

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  33. The CIA'd big sin was not giving vital information to the FBI (on any number of occasions)

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  34. Joe Wilson was sent to investigate Yellowcake:
    Didn't make him a Yellowcake Expert, made him Plame's Hubby!
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    Maybe Scheur will be my first post at EB?

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  35. Been trying all this time to come up with the word for sticking with your friends, which W is famous for.
    Unfortunately for Goss, he was the exception, unfortunately for me, I still can't come up with the damned word!

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  36. I think so.
    Thinking less clear by the year.
    ---
    Any bets that OJ goes softly to Jail, when asked?

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  37. I've been reading the same book.

    Mullah Omar professed to be totally surprised. 'I can't just give him to you to put on the plane,' Omar complained. 'after all, we provided him shelter.'

    Prince Turki was stupefied by this turnabout. Mullah Omar lectured him on the Pashtu tribal code, which he said was quite strict about betraying guests.

    Sheikh Abdullah Turki offered the opinion that if a guest breaks his word, as bin Laden had done repeatedly by granting press interviews, that action absolves the host who is protecting him. The Taliban leader was unconvinced.

    Thinking that Omar needed a face-saving compromise, Prince Turki suggested that the two of them set up a committee that would explore ways to formally hand over bin Laden. Then Prince Turki and his party got up to leave. As he did so, Turki asked specifically,'Are you agreed in principle that you will give us bin Laden?'

    Mullah Omar said he was.

    After the meeting, Saudi Arabia reportedly sent four hundred four wheel drive pick up trucks and other financial aid to the Taliban as a down payment for bin Laden. Six weeks later, the money and the trucks allowed the Taliban to retake Mazar-e-Sharif, a bastion of a Perisan speaking shiite minority, the Hazaras. Among the Taliban fighters were several hundred Arabs sent by bin Laden. Well placed bribes left a force of only 1500 Hazara soldiers guarding the city, and they were quickly killed. Once inside the defenseless city, the Taliban continued raping and killing for two days, indiscriminately shooting anything that moved, then slitting throats and shooting dead men in the testicles. The bodies of the dead were left to wild dogs for six days before surviovors were allowed to bury them. Those citizens who fled the city on foot were bombed by the Taliban air force. Hundreds of others were loaded into shipping containers and baked alive in the desert sun. The UN estimated the total number of victims in the slaughter to be between five and six thousand people. They included ten Iranian diplomats and a journalist, whom the Taliban rounded up and shot in the basement of the Iranian consulate. Four hundred women were taken to be concubines. pg267-268
    xxxx
    Nice folk. The Taliban really didn't wipe out the poppy trade, just taxed it, so I read.

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  38. " O.J., a proper candidate for shunning and stun-gunning"
    --
    Mo Dowd is back for us Plebes.
    Had to give her a token read.

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  39. "Six weeks later, the money and the trucks allowed the Taliban to retake Mazar-e-Sharif, a bastion of a Perisan speaking shiite minority, the Hazaras"
    ---
    I remember pictures of them New Trucks!
    Taleban in New Trucks.
    Shoulda slipped Amish Wagons in there on the Sly.
    Leave it to the CIA to miss an opportunity like that!

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  40. What the hell was the Taliban Air Force?
    And how much do we owe them for all the ecstasy those folks that were baked to death must have experienced, at least according to the brain-dead lawyer guy.
    Wonderful Journey, said he:
    Bring your Teddy's.

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  41. "shooting dead men in the testicles"
    ?
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    They shoulda done it before they died?

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  42. I guess we could call the 6,000 Martyrs, since we got rid of 10 Iranian Diplomats and one Journalist in the Bargain.

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  43. Probably the equivalent of the Bolivian Navy, Doug, heck if I know.

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  44. Rummy,
    "Interviewed by GQ’s Lisa DePaulo on his ranch in Taos, N.M., with another mule named Gus nearby, the “75-year-old package of waning testosterone,” as the writer called him, was asked if he misses W. Offering a wry smile, he replied, “Um, no.”

    He now treats the son with the same contempt he treated the father with, which is why it’s so odd that the son hired his dad’s nemesis in the first place.

    He actually had the gall to imply to Ms. DePaulo that he was out of the loop on Iraq and dragged out a copy of a memo he had written outlining all the things that could go wrong.
    "
    ---
    The Gall?
    Turns out, EVERYBODY almost, was out of the loop, except the Decider Himself, Feith, Wolfie, and Bremmer.
    What Webs we weave.

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  45. "Alan Shrugged"

    Is what snagged me!
    - Greenspan!

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  46. She said she could envision a day when "you have to show proof to your employer that you're insured as a part of the job interview — like when your kid goes to school and has to show proof of vaccination," but said such details would be worked out through negotiations with Congress.
    --Hillary


    "Freeze!! Break out your Health Insurance Card!!"

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  47. He always looks so laid-back.
    (for a concussion grenade with the pin pulled, at least)
    ...and the departing Chuckie.

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  48. Maybe girls will have to prove they are intact?
    If not, parents will have to pay the Clinton Clitoris Restoration Tax.

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  49. Phooey!
    Aquavelvajihad can't visit the WTC.

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  50. You know how miserable we make it for Muslims here, just ask Ms T.
    Proby a Muslim Premium on the Clit Tax.

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  51. The Clipped Wings of the Flightless Dodo
    Richard Miniter reports that CIA teams operating out of the Green Zone have had their wings clipped by the State Department ban on Blackwater escorts.
    Wretch

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  52. I assume the girl friend has since left the idiot.

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  53. I'd hope so. Speaking of snakes, Hereis a muslim take on our Secretary of State.

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  54. BOBAL: "Freeze!! Break out your Health Insurance Card!!"

    Don't tase me bro! OW! OW! OW!

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  55. DOUG: Maybe girls will have to prove they are intact? If not, parents will have to pay the Clinton Clitoris Restoration Tax.

    That's something more likely under a Repuke Theocracy:

    DEUTERONOMY 22

    [13] If any man take a wife, and go in unto her, and hate her, [14] And give occasions of speech against her, and bring up an evil name upon her, and say, I took this woman, and when I came to her, I found her not a maid: [15] Then shall the father of the damsel, and her mother, take and bring forth the tokens of the damsel's virginity unto the elders of the city in the gate: [16] And the damsel's father shall say unto the elders, I gave my daughter unto this man to wife, and he hateth her; [17] And, lo, he hath given occasions of speech against her, saying, I found not thy daughter a maid; and yet these are the tokens of my daughter's virginity. And they shall spread the cloth before the elders of the city. [18] And the elders of that city shall take that man and chastise him

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  56. Whit: A few threads back you made the statement that a "true Christian" could not support the death penalty. I must have missed that in the New Testament. Could you direct me to the chapter and verse?

    John 8:7 "He who is without sin among you, let him throw the first stone at her.

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  57. That would seem to rule out punishmen of any kind.

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  58. According to your linkage, that is.

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  59. Matthew 5:17-48 (New International Version)
    17. "Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. 18. I tell you the truth, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished.

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  60. I was thinking the cops wrongly treated that fellow that was tased. Now I don't know. It was a set up deal on his part, I don't know how disruptive he was, he was asked to leave, etc. It's gotten so the last place one can have civilized discussion anymore is our esteemed colleges. If he was handcuffed they shouldn't have tased him, but I see now he was there to disrupt freedom of speech.

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  61. In the old days he might have gotten a good whack with a nightstick. That low wattage charge he got hit with is nothing...That should be a lesson to other jackasses to "be careful what you ask for."

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  62. Whit:

    In the old days he might have gotten a good whack with a nightstick. That low wattage charge he got hit with is nothing...That should be a lesson to other jackasses to "be careful what you ask for."

    This is the message we are sending to the Iraqis about free speech at an institution of higher learning in a Thugocracy.

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  63. WHIT picked on his banjo: Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets...

    Let's see what else this eternal "Law" has to say:

    EXODUS 21: 20 If a man beats his male or female slave with a rod and the slave dies as a direct result, he must be punished, 21 but he is not to be punished if the slave gets up after a day or two, since the slave is his property.

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  64. 'but to fulfill them' which might mean make them better, as in Jesus took the best of his tradition, and enhanced it{as in don't stone this woman}- (according to the Christian understanding.) Also Matthew wrote from more of a Jewish perspecive, unlike Luke, and put more emphasis on what Christian folk refer to as the old testiment material.

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  65. John 8:7 "He who is without sin among you, let him throw the first stone at her.
    ///////////

    the contention that this means that the bible is against execution in general is false. what this passage is about execution for adultery.
    in this passage
    the jews were about to stone a woman for adultery. Jesus said. John 8:7 "He who is without sin among you, let him throw the first stone at her.

    So everyone walked away.

    Jesus said to the adulteress"Go and sin no more."

    the ten commandments does not say "thou shalt not kill" rather it says "thou shalt not murder"

    when jesus hung on the cross. he didn't condemn the romans for hanging the criminals on his two sides. neither did he condemn them for hanging him. He was after all the sin bearer.

    every single passage of the bible has to be read in context. because the bible taken out of context can be made to mean anything.

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  66. "This is the message we are sending to the Iraqis about free speech at an institution of higher learning in a Thugocracy."

    Repuke, thugocracy.

    Impressive skills of rhetoric.

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