“Soft despotism is a term coined by Alexis de Tocqueville describing the state into which a country overrun by "a network of small complicated rules" might degrade. Soft despotism is different from despotism (also called 'hard despotism') in the sense that it is not obvious to the people."

Monday, September 24, 2007

How the Bookies See the 2008 Presidential Race on 24 Sept 07

USA Election Polls


Odds On: Who will be chosen as the Democratic candidate for the 2008 US Presidential Election?

Hillary Clinton 4/11
Barack Obama 12/5
Al Gore 5/1
John Edwards 8/1
Dennis Kucinich 20/1
Joseph Biden 30/1
Chris Dodd 40/1
Mike Gravel 40/1
Bill Richardson 40/1
Field 50/1
All wagers will be settled once the party makes its official announcement. Max. $50.

Odds On: Who will win the 2008 Presidential Election?

Hillary Clinton 2/1
Barack Obama 9/2
Rudy Giuliani 4/1
Fred Thompson 6/1
Mitt Romney 9/1
Mike Bloomberg 15/1
John Edwards 14/1
Al Gore 11/1
John McCain 16/1
Bill Richardson 40/1
Mike Huckabee 55/1
Chris Dodd 60/1
Ron Paul 55/1
Chuck Hagel 90/1
Dennis Kucinich 90/1
Wayne Allyn Root 100/1
Duncan Hunter 100/1
Ralph Nader 125/1
Jonathan "The Impaler" Sharkey 700/1
Stephen Colbert 800/1
Vermin Supreme 800/1
Lawrence Connor 800/1
Don Cordell 800/1
Jackson Kirk Grimes 900/1
Field 50/1
Vote on who will win the 2008 Presidential election. Any wagers placed after outcome becomes public knowledge will be no action. Max. $50.

Odds On: Which party will win the 2008 US Presidential election?

Democratic Party 1/3
Republican Party 3/2
Unity08 50/1
Reform 100/1
Libertarian 125/1
Any other Party 250/1
Party to win the Electoral College. Max. $50.

Odds On: Who will be named as the Republican Candidate for the 2008 US Presidential Election?

Rudy Giuliani 11/10
John McCain 5/1
Fred Thompson 2/1
Newt Gingrich 7/1
Mitt Romney 3/1
Mike Huckabee 15/1
Tommy Thompson 20/1
Sam Brownback 20/1
Chuck Hagel 25/1
Duncan Hunter 35/1
Tom Tancredo 50/1
Jim Gilmore 60/1
Ron Paul 22/1
Field 50/1
All wagers will be settled once the party makes its official announcement. Max. $50.


  1. My morning radio news show co-host, Fred Grandy, believes Hillary will get enough Republican votes to win the national. Those Republicans won't cop to it, but as with the election of her husband, they'll do it.

    It'll be interesting to see where the almost monolithically Republican Officer Corps goes, or how it divides, with Rudy perhaps on one side and Hillary on the other. Rudy makes no pretense to offering an out from nation building and at the same time wants to expand the NATO writ and
    mission further.

    Given that foreign policy platform, Mitt would probably have a far easier time with the military establishment than Giuliani.

  2. Har de Har!
    Republicans for Hillary!
    About as likely as
    "Poor People for Open Immigration"
    or equally ridiculous:
    "Blacks for Illegal Immigration"
    Yep those poor people and blacks will vote to comit Hari-Kari every time.
    So compassionate of W to have put so many of them out of work these past six years.
    So thoughtless for fellow citizens to do so, or just plain Greedy.
    Fewer migrants means more jobs
    As immigration enforcement takes hold, more work begins to open up to less-skilled Americans.

    When illegal aliens were removed from a Crider Poultry plant in Stillmore, Ga., the Atlanta Journal Constitution and the Wall Street Journal documented the benefits to local workers. The plant raised wages significantly, began offering free shuttles from nearby towns and provided free rooms in a company-owned dormitory. For the first time, Crider sought applicants from the state unemployment office and began hiring probationers and men from a local homeless mission. And, as the Journal noted, "for the first time since significant numbers of Latinos began arriving in Stillmore in the late 1990s, the plant's processing lines were made up predominantly of African Americans."

    The first consequence of stepped-up enforcement is attrition of the illegal population -- a steady decrease in the total number of illegal aliens as more people give up and go home. Attrition is the real alternative to amnesty, and we're seeing it work.

  3. Funny you should mention that Doug. In a nearby town near me, the INS swept into a car wash where at least 25 Mexicans worked. They are gone and six or seven blacks have replaced them. I asked one why and he said they are paying more money.

  4. "Har de Har!
    Republicans for Hillary!"

    Whistling past the graveyard, Doug.

  5. If Republicans can support the policies of George W Bush, they could easily support the policies and proposals of Ms Clinton.

    Two peas in a pod.
    Two sides of the same coin.

    Vote for 28 years of the status que

    Two family rule!
    Now that's conservative!

    Almost as conservative as Nicolae & his wife, Elena, Ceausescu.

  6. i need to wait until jan 3-10, this will be the date of the usa attack on iranian nukes..

    you heard from me 1st...

    do i have sources?

    yep, the fat guy at the coffee shop

  7. Peter Culls Jems from Cedar:

    "It was the Jewish communists that Hitler, the Nazis, and many more in Europe, including Winston Churchill - were very concerned about. If Hitler had come to America and talked about the Jewish problem and the relationship the Nazis were trying to forge with the Zionists - maybe a different "solution" other than the horrific one the Nazis finally settled on was doable..."

    Peter on Cedar:

    "As for Cedarford, the only thing separating him from participating in the Auschwitz generation is the accident of time."

  8. Wonder what it is they are conserving, or better yet serving?

    What is the central theme of the last twenty years of Federal policy under Bush-Clinton-Bush?

    Open borders, coupled with low legal immigration levels.
    No workplace enforcement.

    War and long term occupation in Bosnia. War and long term occupation in Afghanistan. War and long term occupation in Iraq.

    Increased Federal largesse and greater infiltration of Federal authority into religious and charitable activities.

    The WalMarting of Mexico, coinciding with the Mexification of the US. The "One Americas" strategic goal being worked, diligently. By both sides of the Federal aisle.

    The Pan-American Express.
    The US wagon is hooked to it
    Our economic engine is driving it.

    Best climb on board.

    While the host and clustered and some of the patrons prepare to expat or live in the furtherest Pacific or southern outposts of Empire.
    duece, working developmental projects in Costa Rica
    bob, he's eyeing the Canadian tundra
    doug is on the beach, at the edge of Empire
    I live in the transition zone and am expanding south.
    trish, headed to Columbia, SA.
    mat, an expat already.
    Ms T, travels the Pacific.
    ash, hides from his Amerika, in Canada
    cutler, he's young and still in school
    sam, don't know much about ...

    Leaves rufus to guard the homeland

  9. whit, the other barkeep.
    Guess he'll be with rufus, here in the homeland, back in the World.

  10. The Rats be leavin the Ship!

  11. My wife is telling me she thinks Hillary hasn't thought this thing out very well. Says Bill will have the run of the White House and all those interns, away from the glare of the spotlight. There will be little to control his behavior. Could get bad, but maybe we won't hear much about it, in Canada

  12. This is Larry's Big Day in court.

  13. Kevin James, host of the best immigration talk show in the nation on KRLA on the net, used to be a Federal Prosecutor:

    He thinks odds are very high OJ will walk, thanks to the prosecutors making just about all the errors small time prosecutors make when given the national media spotlight.

  14. Bobal,
    Tell the wife they have a
    "Business Arrangement"
    Well tested for goin on 40 years.

  15. Quess I'm wrong, the wife says Wednesday is the day in court for Craig.

  16. Have told he so, but she says it still doesn't look good to her. She says Bill has a soft bed in the Lincoln bedroom, a roof over his head, is out of the spotlight, and gets all his bills paid, the country run for him, and all the sex he can handle.

  17. It's only a three or four hour drive from here, to freedom.

  18. AND, I just learned that you can choose to PAY for your Medical Care in Canada, if you choose to sidestep the universal!

  19. bobalharb said...

    Could get bad, but maybe we won't hear much about it, in Canada

    You'll have to run a lot further then Canada if you don't want to hear that kinda stuff.

  20. Thugs at Columbia Deny Others Right To Speak

    Some of our universities are really turning into cesspools. Those students ought to be charged, jailed, fined, expelled. One of my aunts studied music at Columbia an age ago. Not the same place now.

  21. I'll be right here where I always am, Hillary or no Hillary. My wife talks a big game, but nothing will come of it. We have thought of trying to buy a little cabin up there somewhere but the lack of funding keeps the idea only a dream.

  22. I may have my head in the sand, but the good ole US of A just ain't ready for a female President yet. Some will talk like it, but on election day, when the curtain is drawn behind them, they just won't be able to pull the lever.

    On the other hand, I thought DeLorean's were cool, and Zap Mail was a good idea!

  23. Kucinich Nader Gravel Paul. Four names, united for truth, cause: fear, smear, & media blackout.