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Thursday, May 24, 2007

In Marxian Fashion, The US Congress and George Bush will re-distribute Your Wealth.


(hattip: doug)
Millions of foreigners illegally break into the United States and the government that is supposed to represent you does nothing. It gets worse. For whatever reason, the US Government and the fool of a president are going to fix the problem by redistributing your wealth, your heritage and forever change the country while America watches American Idol.

I listened to the debate between Senators Kyl and Kennedy. Kennedy is the same buffoon he has always been and Kyl is a defeatist useful idiot. I don't want amendments, I want the thing scrapped and then start all over. There is only one person that can do that and I think that for the second time in his public service career that person is AWOL.

It is all up to George W. Bush. How the hell did this happen?

May 22, 2007
The Fiscal Cost of Low-Skill Immigrants to the U.S. Taxpayer

by Robert E. Rector and Christine Kim Heritage
Special Report #14
Each year, families and individuals pay taxes to the government and receive back a wide variety of services and benefits. A fiscal deficit occurs when the benefits and services received by one group exceed the taxes paid. When such a deficit occurs, other groups must pay for the services and benefits of the group in deficit. Each year, govern ment is involved in a large-scale transfer of resources between different social groups.

Fiscal distribution analysis measures the distribution of total government benefits and taxes in society. It pro vides an assessment of the magnitude of government transfers between groups. This paper provides a fiscal distri bution analysis of households headed by immigrants without a high school diploma. It measures the total benefits and services received by this group and the total taxes paid. The difference between benefits received and taxes paid represents the total resources transferred by government on behalf of this group from the rest of society.

The first step in an analysis of the distribution of benefits and taxes is to count accurately the cost of all benefits and services provided by the government. The size and cost of government is far larger than many people imagine. In fiscal year (FY) 2004, the expenditures of the federal government were $2.3 trillion. In the same year, expendi tures of state and local governments were $1.45 trillion. The combined value of federal, state, and local expenditures in FY 2004 was $3.75 trillion.[1]

The sum of $3.75 trillion is so large that it is difficult to comprehend. One way to grasp the size of government more readily is to calculate average expenditures per household. In 2004, there were some 115 million households in the U.S.[2] (This figure includes multi-person families and single persons living alone.) The average cost of govern ment spending thus amounted to $32,707 per household across the U.S. population.[3]

The $3.75 trillion in government expenditure is not free, but must be paid for by taxing or borrowing economic resources from Americans or by borrowing from abroad. In general, government expenditures are funded by taxes and fees. In FY 2004, federal taxes amounted to $1.82 trillion. State and local taxes and related revenues amounted to $1.6 trillion.[4] Together, federal, state, and local taxes amounted to $3.43 trillion. At $3.43 trillion, taxes and related revenues came to 91 percent of the $3.75 trillion in expenditures. The gap between taxes and spending was financed by government borrowing.
More here. You have to read this.

153 comments:

  1. Heather Mac Donald on

    "the myth of the redeeming power of Hispanic family values, the Hispanic work ethic, and Hispanic virtue," she says:

    From 1990 to 2004, Hispanics accounted for 92 percent of the increase in poor people. Only 53 percent of Hispanics earn high school diplomas, the lowest among American ethnic groups. Half of all children born to Hispanic Americans in 2005 were born out of wedlock -- a reliable predictor of social pathologies.

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  2. The New Bill's Burden
    By granting amnesty to illegal immi­grants and creating massive new "guest worker" programs, the new legislation, if enacted, would impose massive costs on the U.S. taxpayer.
    Latest Research and Numbers
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    Chart: Costs High for Taxpayers
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    A Bill That Earned Its Doubters

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  3. For those of you who believe I might only unleash my tongue on fellow bloggers from time to time here is the letter I emailed to Senator Mel Martinez (R) FL today:

    For what it's worth....

    Senor Senator Martinez,

    I know you are a supported of allowing your ancestry free illegal passes to the USA, uncontrolled borders and further permitting the dilution of US citizenship. I however am not.

    Closing ranks with Senator Kennedy is not a good idea. Going against the overwhelming number of citizens who are against your position is NOT a smart political move.

    Most of us in our 60's have heard all the pablum regurgitate from politicians who attempt to cover their opprobrium by saying, "We are doing this for the good of the country".

    Well Senator, that is crap, pure crap in this case.
    You support building the fence that has been authorized and funded first, but that Mr. Chertoff just yesterday admitted not a mile of which has been built and then come back to the amnesty question in later years. Spend the wall building time to round up the illegals and deport them. That is your responsibility , not supporting laws that ex post facto erase felonies.

    While the wall is being constructed I would recommend that you review your oath of office. Having 12-20 million illegals in this country, aided in their efforts to cross our borders by the Mexican government constitutes an act of war. If you do not recognize this as such then you should resign your office for aiding and abetting an offensive action against the United States. Perhaps a grass roots recall petition is in order. I do believe it would be no problem gaining the signatures required to accomplish this.

    I would recommend you recalibrate your thinking on this issue and do the correct thing. Build the wall and get control of our borders first. Then deport the illegals. They will only bastardize and dilute the votes of those American citizens who follow the laws and support this country. You clearly are not doing the right thing and the opprobrium attaching itself to your name will not wash off.

    As a final note should you support this bill I will do everything legal to defeat you at the polls. I am not without influence in my county having been a member of the Republican Executive Committee and past President of the Republican Men's Club.


    signed with my name


    So bloggers, if you feel the need, just give'em a bit of hell. remember bloggers these people are our servants not our masters. Short of civil war there are a great many tools at our disposal to bring pressure on those who would destroy this country.

    BTW, does anybody know or heard exactly how we allowed 15-20 million illegals to get into the country in the first place?

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  4. Six to eight million came in since 911. Wonder who is responsible?

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  5. IMMIGRATION BILL EXPOSED:
    A study by the Heritage Foundation takes a look at the bill's most controversial component.

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  6. Deuce:
    "ABB"
    Anybody But Bush
    (of course)

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  7. Any answer but ABB
    Proves you suffer from BDS.

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  8. If Trent Lott is for it,
    who am I to say no?

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  9. If 'Rat had voted for Kyl,
    he'd be commiting Hari Kari.

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  10. (this sap probly would have)

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  11. Major Garret thinks the House, and specifically Mike Pence, may be our only hope.
    ---
    "Republican Leadership"
    Har de har.
    ---
    Likely to Win Senate Approval [Kate O'Beirne]

    Maybe I've been talking to a particularly pessimistic lot, but every Senate insider I have spoken with predicts that the immigration bill will be approved by the Senate with about 60 votes. That could change depending on how amendments go. But one veteran GOP aide just noted the "extraordinary process" Majority Leader Reid is presiding over. He is "slow-walking" amendments to prevent the consideration of multiple changes. After the Memorial Day recess, the expectation is that only a very limited number of amendments will be permitted and there aren't the 41 votes necessary to insist on a more open process. There's some grousing about the Republican leadership's apparent reluctance to demand that their members be permitted to offer all their legitimate, substantive amendments.

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  12. The San Antonio Reporter that's done a 5 part series, is up next on Ingraham.
    http://www2.krla870.com/listen/

    All the NON Mexicans that are masters in DC are welcoming in.

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  13. A man gets home,screeches his car into the driveway,runs into the house,slams the door and shouts, "honey pack your bags I just won the lottery!!

    Oh my God she screams, "What should I pack, beach stuff or mountain stuff?"

    "It doesn't matter", the husband yells back, " Just get the hell outta here"

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  14. Deuce,

    8-12 million since 9-11 ..in my world that's grounds for impeachment.

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  15. MySA.com: Metro State
    Breaching America: War refugees or threats?
    ... Todd Bensman San Antonio Express-News.

    5 Part Series.

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  16. My personal view for four years, since it became apparent that Bush is our enemy wrt Border Security, is that an attack from across the border is the only thing that could save us.

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  17. Doug,

    The Heritage Foundation ( for those bloggers who are unfamiliar with HF it is a very pro Republican think tank in DC) came out yesterday and said theat this Immigration /Amnesty Bill will cost 2.7 TRILLION DOLLARS in the next five years...TRILLION FOLKS...that's your money ..Marxist redistribution.

    And since Bush allowed 12 million of the illegals in on his watch I think we need to think IMPEACMENT....and I have been a life long Republican but that is an act of clearly allowing alien forces to invade our country, which is obviously inimical to the security of this country.

    If Bush is going that way, which is now a fait accompli then the sonofabitch deserves to be IMPEACHED and found GUILTY and removed from office.

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  18. IMPEACMENT: a particular Bushian pronunciation and spelling of

    IMPEACHMENT..

    sorry for the mispronoucaspellament.

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  19. Hewitt, Rush, et al, would be against us.

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  20. Illegal alien border crossiing avatar in use

    *fence jumping,tunnelling illegals.

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  21. Bush presser on Iraq, immigration up next.
    I better turn it off and get some sleep.
    A certain guy makes me very angry these days.

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  22. 3500 US GIs dead since 911.

    20,000 American civilians killed by illegals since 911.

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  23. Doug,

    They probably would be because they know that a totally Democratically controlled country would be worse than a divided government HOWEVER, if this amnesty goes through the Democrats will have an insurmountable voter dominance and would in short orer control all branches of government for, what 20,-50 years..I can't see that far but ther's not much denying the Democrats would have the POWER for a good long time.

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  24. Deuce,

    Doesn't sound much like he's protecting us from all enemies domestic or foreign does it?

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  25. That figure is only deaths..it doesn't include all felonies,rapes ,assaults,robberies,etc.

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  26. My point is how could we suceed w/everybody against us?

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  27. Right, Whip it:
    I figure 40k.

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  28. Does your 20k include traffic (drunk, speeding, non insured, non licensed)

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  29. He really is a classic elite:
    I have a Harvard MBA and Blue Blood.
    You are dumb shits.

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  30. RECTOR ON NOW
    http://www2.krla870.com/listen/

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  31. Trashed yesterday by Buddy's bible,
    the WSJ.

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  32. A FREE Lexus every year for every illegal in bennies.
    Live here for a week, get full Social Security at 60.

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  33. The single stupidest thing Rector has heard in 25 years:
    Those mowing lawns for 14 dollars an hour will save social security.

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  34. Happy as hell I did not vote for Kyl.

    If I had, I'd be culpable for this fiasco. Like I am for Mr Bush's performance in Iraq.

    "Failure in Iraq effects security in this country"
    according to Mr Bush.

    Security, here in AZ, sucks.
    Federal criminals represent 10% of those living here. That is poor security, on a Federal level.

    Mr Bush is correct, his failures in Iraq have led to the criminals being here. The Army should be defending the US border, not the Iraqi/Syrian border.

    Only 30 folks per month, reportedly, infiltrate across the Iraqi/Syrian border each month. Over 3,000 infiltrate across the US Border each day.

    There is a moral equivalency.
    An infiltrator is an infiltrator.

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  35. These are the kinds of jobs high school kids and college students used to be doing around here.

    I too have almost hoped for an attack from the southern border, awful as that is to say.

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  36. Nice picture of old Karl. Claimed to be an atheist. But he found a role for the Forces of Light, the Forces of Darknes, the redeeming qualities of an elect(proletariat), history as moving towards a goal, the final battle, and the final coming of a New Earth, and New Man, the final redemption. Nice picture of old Karl, might be someone's benevolent uncle.

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  37. The overcoming of time, the renovatio, the coming of an eviternal peace, break through to brotherhood, all that jazz, guided there by the elect, the chosen ones, the proletariat, carriers of the meaning of history, guided by an enlightened dedicated cadre, all that jazz.

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  38. It sure would be nice to see a fierce crowd of Americans take to the streets and raise some real hell with these bastards. No justice, no peace.

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  39. Deuce,

    The only mandate legislators have in passing this bill is money. So now the question is, why do millionaires need millions in campaign contributions so they can run for office?

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  40. We need advertising, a program and a date. I wrote Malkin. Anybody know Hannity?

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  41. All these senators talk about the right thing to do. How about a small guy who owns a home, pays taxes and his school taxes are going up when spouses and children of present illegals, who will live in rental houses and apartment burden the school s and his taxes go up, which diminishes the value of his equity?

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  42. Deuce, it's hard to remember when either of my senators did much for the small guy. Other than vote for some tax reductions, which of course, helps the big guy more than the small guy. Sitting here thinking about it, I really can't come up with anything either have done that's actually helped me much. Though they haven't really made things worse. This bill will, though, over time.

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  43. I only blame one person for this. George W. Bush. He could have stopped the illegals. He could veto this. He could lead, but that would be hard for a candy ass momma's boy.

    Bush needs Ted Kennedy's approval.

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  44. The Idaho legislature has done more for me than the senators ever have done. They have kept the taxes on farmland reasonable.

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  45. [...]

    Border control is a national security issue of the first order, but political leaders in both parties have turned it into a human-rights/humanitarian issue in their cynical and unrelenting pursuit of votes. Moreover, the tens of billions of dollars that the federal government has spent since 9/11 to fill official border-crossing points with cutting-edge electronic detection gear will be effective only if the Islamist fighters are stupid enough to enter the United States via official checkpoints. Unfortunately, al-Qaeda and its allies have shown themselves to be anything but stupid. Carrying on the tradition of his father and Mr. Clinton, President Bush has allowed the borders to remain open, thereby ensuring that (a) all levels of U.S. law enforcement will be overwhelmed by a pool of undocumented aliens that grows every hour, and (b) there is no serious impediment to our Islamist foes' inserting operatives into the United States.

    [...]

    Michael Scheuer
    The Journal of International Security Affairs
    Spring 2007

    Question: If border security has been turned into "a human-rights/humanitarian issue in [the] cynical and unrelenting pursuit of votes," what motive explains the early (November, 2001) decision to turn the *war* into a human-rights/humanitarian issue?

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  46. Have e-mailed most of the talk show hosts around the country. What to do, what to do?

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  47. ^Wouldn't be that big of a problem if the sanctuary cities, and only the sanctuaries, had to pay for the results. Unfortunately, they, like businesses, will leach off the rest of us by pushing national costs to us and keeping the local profits.

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  48. "Question: If border security has been turned into "a human-rights/humanitarian issue in [the] cynical and unrelenting pursuit of votes," what motive explains the early (November, 2001) decision to turn the *war* into a human-rights/humanitarian issue?"

    Bad judgment.

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  49. Doug, Hannity is over there in Hawaii now. Go grab him by the tie and tell him to organize some protests.

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  50. Concur on the bad judgment, but it's not a motive.




    Apropos of nothing: It occurred to me today that we've been at war with, and within, Iraq for 16 years.

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  51. Givin' the "empire" a run for it's money, those rag heads have.

    Hadjis

    16 years of holding off the modern hemogony

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  52. Swamp Rats Big as a Cat

    Can't take desert heat though.

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  53. Well I was willing to give George a good deal of slack on Iraq .. for whatever reason he was getting intel that we can only say was deeply flawed. Apparently Tony Blair , John Howard and a few other were to, ok..so I cut him slack..still do on Iraq because I believe it's centrality in the ME is too important...

    BUT on this amnesty thing I'm ready to picket the WH with a nasty placard in hand saying, well, something nasty. You know

    BUSH IS A BOOGERHEAD

    or

    BUSH IS PRO ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS INVADING OUR COUNTRY AND WEARING OUTDATED NBA ATTIRE.

    I can hear the chants now in front of every capitol in the country on July 4th

    "NO SLACK, SEND 'EM BACK
    NO SLACK SEND 'EM BACK"

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  54. bobalharb,

    Man those rats are big .. I'm guessing fully dressed you could get easy three four pounds of meat.

    Or just open pit, with a barbeque sauce ..hmm damn good eat'n.

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  55. [...]

    At day's end, then, the counterterrorism record of the Bush administration is resoundingly negative: two wars (nearly) lost, thousands of lives sacrificed, immense amounts of money spent, U.S. military credibility at low ebb, domestic political unity shattered, and an Islamist enemy more powerful and motivated today than on the day in 2001 that Mr. Bush swore his first oath of office. But the Bush administration's failings should be understood for what they are -- part of a continuum of negative accomplishments stretching back more than a decade.

    Unable to adjust to a world of lethal transnational threats and unwilling to square with Americans the reasons behind why Islamists are at war with us, the contemporary bipartisan governing generation has left the United States in a dangerous position. We are a country weary of war and its costs, and unprepared to accept that our war against Islamist militancy has barely commenced. At the same time, al-Qaeda, its allies, and an overwhelming number of the world's Muslims are about to be thrilled and powerfully motivated by the defeat of the second superpower on the Iraqi battlefield. Flush with victory, our enemies will then confront Americans with renewed vigor, fully supported by their only two indispensable allies -- the Islamic faith and the U.S. foreign policy status quo.

    Michael Scheuer
    The Journal of International Security Affairs
    Spring 2007

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  56. I haven't quoted the part concerning the administration's completion of the decades-long process of turning our military into a laughingstock.

    Maybe later.

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  57. According to Major Garret, PENCE is gunning for leader next time, so we should show him how much support he will get if he hangs tough on IMMIGRATION.

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  58. When Buddy refers to immigration, it's as if its some ethereal problem from OUT OF THE BLUE, not obviously ANOTHER THING BUSH COULD HAVE EASILY SOLVED RIGHT AFTER 9-11.

    See no frigging evil.
    March to those OVENS.

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  59. Well the end game in Iraq and Iran is freight training toward us.
    Patreus will regale us in September on the things to remember. Where we are and how we do'in.

    Meantime the 1300 centifuges at Natanz are whupp'in up and no one can stop 'em with jaw jaw.

    Whaddya think we're gonna steam out of the gulf and launch? Yep. Give the IFF to Israel..yep..they'll fly right over Iraq and Iraq will be , what, in turmoil?

    B-1zees and B-2zees and Buffzees all over Iran.

    It's gonna be called "THE BIG ONE" and IF it goes down Habu will be happy. And isn't that what each of us is after, happiness? and a little get back.

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  60. Insider,
    Aren't them things greasy?

    (Great big Gobs of
    Greasy Grimey Gopher Guts)

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  61. I'll be happy if they come back from the Mission and level Mexico.

    Nice DMZ between the TWO Americas.

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  62. I think the last President that did any good for our military was Ronald Wilson Reagan. THE greatest president in my lifetime.

    Bush,Clinton,Clinton,Bush did nothing but gut us defensively.

    I knew G H W BUSH was a wimp dispite his Chi CHI Jima shootdown.
    Clinton spent all his time gett'n head.
    W has allowed up to be invaded..

    Where the hell is Teddy Roosevelt, he damn sure wouldn't have put up with this shit

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  63. "No Slack,
    Level it in the name of Hack."

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  64. What IS his Frigging Motive, TRISH?

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  65. From what I can tell, habu, Petraeus has left the world of the soldier and entered the world of the policy.

    That doesn't bode well for us.

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  66. Doug,

    A bit greasy and chewy but if you marinate them just right in apple ciger vinegar, with just a touch of iodine they work out roasted over a spit just fine. Keep 'em slathered in BBQ sauce w/ heavy habenero peppers.

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  67. Bush and John are living proof that getting shot down does not necessarily a good politician make.

    Kerry proof that pretending to get shot has even worse aftereffects.

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  68. Wouldn't that Iodine increase your endurance in the
    Uranium Enrichment Dance?

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  69. Trish,

    It comes with the fouth star.

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  70. Since the American electorate is evenly divided between left and right, the Feds only care about the vote of the illegals. Doing the right thing would be political suicide so doing the wrong thing is the answer. These bastards are squandering our country and are cowards and traitors to all things true and dear. Being on the tail end of the baby boom I have been told that the decades of money I have put into social security will be used to pay recent immigrants. Could that not provoke civil war?

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  71. Go Fourth and Get the Foul Forth.

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  72. Doug,

    My head drill instructor at Quantico who'd done three tours in Vietnam use to ride the Lt. who had one tour and a Purple Heart..the DI called the Purple Heart the VC Marksmanship Badge.

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  73. Mouse,
    But immediately after 9-11,
    Bush Coulda/Shoulda done the right thing easily, with bipartisan backing.

    Seal the frigging Border.
    Say Saddam had a Nuke in Waiting down there.
    Not to mention Anthrax, Bird Flu, and Hay Fever Inducing Swamp Grass from them Swamps he drained.
    ...and the polluted water too.

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  74. "What IS his Frigging Motive, TRISH?"

    I don't know.

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  75. Doug, You mean ther's no rank with Fouth Stars?

    Sounds like another 9-11-02 attack!!!....ugh




    (hide face in act of obeisance.)

    My typing teacher was dyslexic.

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  76. My Drill instructor tried to shame me in front of the whole damn platoon, just cause I dozed off presenting arms.

    Worse than Abu Gharib.
    He wasn't even an American:
    Canuck, he was.
    That Mountie hat looked pretty good on him, and he was a real softie in fact.

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  77. The smaller rats are known as "Hobo Hot Dogs" or Katrinaville Kitty Kats


    stay away from SFO they are overrun with gerbils from what I hear.

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  78. I ain't eatin no New Orleans Rat.

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  79. Only thing worse is a Chicom Catfish.
    Filled with pure evil bottom dwelling POLLUTION.

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  80. Coulda shoulda. W has ruined the Repubican party. I will vote for the candidate who will control the border and bring the rule of law back the US.

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  81. annoy mouse,

    Throw in a nuke over Tehran and I'm with ya

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  82. Motive?

    Book deals from the liberal publishing houses?

    Movie deals from Hollywood?

    Somehow connected to ego and money cause they all forget to talk straight.


    Fox news time

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  84. Habu,
    Never the eternal optimist I think that the conflict with Iran is inevitable, will erupt into regional warfare, and will irrevocably turn into world war. Yet like a train wreck, all the participants will keep doing what they are doing to provoke it and it can not be stopped. On an up note, it would be nice to declare war on Islam and kill as many as we can before the whole shithouse goes up in flames.



    As far as motives are concerned; keeping the yankee foxtrot happy and being the center of attention for twenty something feminine moon beams ought to have something to do with it.

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  85. Steyn should be up next on Hewitt.
    http://www2.krla870.com/listen/

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  86. “New French President Nicolas Sarkozy made immigration a central issue of his campaign. Now, his new minister for immigration and national identity says its time to start paying immigrants to leave the country.” LGF

    Hey, the senate has set up a deal to sell out American sovereignty for the staggering cost of $5,000 per alien. If the Heritage Foundation is correct, we can afford to pay each alien $50,000 each in bribe money to leave us alone. Better yet tell a friend, we’ll throw in first class airline tickets too.

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  87. Without a fence, am, they'd just be back for another quick 50k, sad to say.

    Course I quess you could pass out the money in monthly cash from the US Embassy in Mexico City. That might work.

    In that case many a lazy American might turn hispanic too, and head for the cash, which might be an added bonus. Maybe your idea does have some merit.

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  88. "It comes with the fouth star."

    It's not so much the fourth star as being out of your natural element at any rank.

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  89. bobalharb,
    That's why we need to tattoo a bar code on their foreheads. Don't pass out money without a receipt.

    With trillions at stake, think of the money we'd save.

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  90. "Concur on the bad judgment, but it's not a motive."

    It can be, when bad judgment leads you to incorrect conclusions. I.e., mass immigration from Mexico is good for both the United States and Mexico, as I've yet to be convinced Kennedy and Bush don't both believe (for different reasons).

    Of course, the question is often a tricky matter of deciding whether bad judgment led to bad conclusions, or bad conclusions lead to the bad judgment (wishful thinking).


    Apropos of nothing: It occurred to me today that we've been at war with, and within, Iraq for 16 years.

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  91. Depends a lot on how you rate the cynicism or naivety of the person in question. Bush strikes me as more naive on the issues in question.

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  92. Nearly always a mix though, i.e. the fact he's probably convinced himself (along with Martinez) that hispanics are natural Republican voters.

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  93. The goal or object of a person's actions (AHD definition #2) is what I was thinking of, cutler.

    OTOH: Never bother to examine a folly; ask only what it accomplishes.

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  94. ola...my name is senor lampfhota. I am a semple man here to do the work that amerecans won't do and supoort my family maria, pedro, juan, jesus, jose, margarita and lettle juanita.

    we will go back to medico when you gringos pay us $400,000 and we promise to never come back...really...no crossed fingers

    gracias

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  95. So what do you think about that sprinkling of Iodine, Lugh?

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  96. "OTOH: Never bother to examine a folly; ask only what it accomplishes. "
    ---
    Grand Slam by that measure:
    Party
    Military
    Country

    All but Military destroyed.
    Military needs triage to determine extent.

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  97. de nada, senor lugh.

    gusto mucho su familia.

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  98. "All but Military destroyed."

    We lose now, and we lose later.

    Ten years down the road is when the present O3 (O4, O5) exodus will hit hardest.

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  99. senor doug, cousin mammood told my seester not to pay any mind to the iodine sprinkles on the tortillas served at the Uranium Enrichmeent Dance because the campesinos will not be burned by Quaziqotal's bright face that the gringos will soon see.

    senor doug, leetle juanita needs new sandals, pleeze send the $400,000 US dollars soon pleeze.

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  100. senorita trish, pleeze not to worry becuae Juan, Pedro and leetle jesus will join the gringo army when they are men. We are a seemple peeple here to do the jobs that amereecans won't do. gracias, senor lugh

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  101. "senorita trish, pleeze not to worry becuae Juan, Pedro and leetle jesus will join the gringo army when they are men."

    Whaddya know. That particular gag line pops up Left and Right.

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  102. Ain't that "Queztalquatel"?
    Guess I'll ask Pedro, W's Stetson-Maker.

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  103. Dennis Miller (mp3 for free)
    Thursday, May 24
    Hour 1: Guest - Steven Emerson, Executive Director of the Investigative Project on Terrorism

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  104. "Givin' the 'empire' a run for it's money, those rag heads have.

    "Hadjis"

    Yep, they have. The hajis. Running near 50% killed or wounded SF in battles with them in Iraq not long ago.

    They're not lunchmeat.

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  105. Reminds me of when I almost died of dehydration from the revenge, beer, and sun.
    4 rifle wielding soldiers didn't worry me a bit when they woke me on my cot neath the stars, asking If I was alright.
    I mean, what could they do, kill me? Woulda been a relief.
    Wife had to drive all the way back to Tucson.
    ---
    i'm haulin ass across the mexican desert blowing projectile chunks out the side of the car but, mostly on it. i heaved so hard i think i shit my pants. my dad is trying to hold back the laughter while he attempts to hold the car on the road. i gotta pull over. wiping the puke off my lips was not my main concern. the real issue was stopping that car before the event repeated itself from the rear.

    the land south of the parallel 32 is a magical and unforgiving place. the sun, the wind, and the sky owe you nothing. at any monent the grand god of the sun quetzalcuatel himself could fly down from his home in the sky and swallow me whole with one firey bite.

    'deryke'
    'yeah?'
    'you got something on your face there buddy'
    'funny guy. funny guy.'
    'do you still have that gatorade from TJ?'
    'sure buddy here ya go' ... manly hugs all around.

    80 miles to the 'bahia de concepcion' where for thousands of years the most immense and gentle creatures on the planet go to have thier babies and sing to the sky and moon. the whales always pass my house and spout a fine hello as they do but, i never see where they go. now it is time. being here with my dad is just as important as watching the whales make whales.

    'i feel like shit man'
    'you look like shit' we laugh and joke in the afternoon sun.

    i dont remember what happened next. the problem was that i passed out in the sand and woke up covered in reused gatorade from TJ. it was official i didnt have the respect i owed the land and it paid me back with its vengeful hand. sun poisoning. big Q was having his way with me and his way was the hard way.

    needless to say we missed the whales but not the point. the 'bahia de concepcion' means 'bay of birth'. thats is still true. that day a story was born and nourished under golden rays of the sun god. there aint nothing like vomiting blazing a hot trail across the deadly sands of southern baja california with your dad and a hot jeep.

    http://deryke.blogspot.com/2005/02/g0-south-y0ung-mn.html

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  106. A comprehensive nationwide survey of Muslim Americans finds them to be largely assimilated, happy with their lives, and moderate with respect to many of the issues that
    have divided Muslims and Westerners around the world. Muslim Americans are a
    highly diverse population, one largely comprised of immigrants.

    ...

    While Muslim Americans express generally positive views
    of American society, most believe life for Muslims has gotten
    more difficult since 9/11. Government anti-terrorism efforts are seen as singling out Muslims – and most of those who express this
    view are bothered by the extra scrutiny.

    ...

    There is widespread concern in the Muslim American population about the rise of Islamic extremism, both around the
    world and in the United States. Roughly half of Muslim
    Americans (51%) say they are very concerned about the rise of Islamic extremism around the world.

    Muslim Americans:
    Who Are They?

    Total
    Proportion who are… %
    Foreign-born Muslims 65
    Arab region 24
    Pakistan 8
    Other South Asia 10
    Iran 8
    Europe 5
    Other Africa 4
    Other 6
    Native-born Muslims 35
    African American 20
    Other 15
    100
    Foreign-born Muslims 65
    Year immigrated:
    2000-2007 18
    1990-1999 21
    1980-1989 15
    Before 1980 11
    Native-born Muslims 35
    Percent who are…
    Converts to Islam 21
    Born Muslim 14


    Muslim Americans

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  107. Compromise Has Little Public Support

    Since I still have a membership at Rasmussen, I have access to the crosstabs -- and they tell a very interesting story. Not a single demographic in the study favors this proposal, except under Race:Other.

    If the architects of the comprehensive immigration reform plan expected to reap political favor for their ability to reach a bipartisan compromise, they will find themselves disappointed. A Rasmussen study shows that a near-majority oppose the plan altogether, with the rest split between acceptance and uncertainty:

    Initial public reaction to the immigration proposal being debated in the Senate is decidedly negative.
    A Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey conducted Monday and Tuesday night shows that just 26% of American voters favor passage of the legislation. Forty-eight percent (48%) are opposed while 26% are not sure. The bi-partisan agreement among influential Senators and the White House has been met with bi-partisan opposition among the public. The measure is opposed by 47% of Republicans, 51% of Democrats, and 46% of those not affiliated with either major party.


    The next part of the report shows that Congress as a whole may have missed the pulse of the nation. Instead of focusing on normalization, they could improve their standing immensely -- in both parties -- by addressing border security as a primary and separate initiative:

    The enforcement side of the debate is clearly where the public passion lies on the issue. Seventy-two percent (72%) of voters say it is Very Important for “the government to improve its enforcement of the borders and reduce illegal immigration.” That view is held by 89% of Republicans, 65% of Democrats, and 63% of unaffiliated voters.
    In view of these numbers, tackling the problem in an integrated manner is a huge mistake on both sides of the aisle. The notion that the border issue cannot be divorced from addressing the status of the extant illegals only seems to hold true inside the Beltway. In the rest of the nation, voters appear to easily distinguish between the two -- and probably wonder why their elected representatives cannot.

    Since I still have a membership at Rasmussen, I have access to the crosstabs -- and they tell a very interesting story. Not a single demographic in the study favors this proposal, except under Race:Other. Democrats oppose it 51-28. Republicans oppose it 47-25. Men and women both clearly oppose it. Only people ages 30-39 come close to overcoming opposition, 34-32 in opposition.

    But when the subject turns to border security, the numbers turn even more dramatic. Every single demographic -- race, gender, age, and political orientation -- has majorities that show border security as "very important". The only one below 60% is Race:Other again, but almost all of the others score in the 70s or higher. While a number of demographics score the importance of legalizing illegal aliens as at least somewhat important, it carries far less enthusiasm than border security.

    The data is so compelling, one has to wonder why Congress hasn't realized that they could offer a win for everyone by focusing exclusively on border security as an entrée to immigration reform. They literally would please every possible constituency by doing so, and would almost overnight dial down the emotion over the rest of the issue. Only in DC could the governing class be so out of touch with the national mood.

    UPDATE: The news is not all bad for comprehensive reform. From the Rasmussen summary:

    Still, 65% of voters would be willing to support a compromise including a “very long path to citizenship” provided that “the proposal required the aliens to pay fines and learn English” and that the compromise “would truly reduce the number of illegal aliens entering the country.” The proposal, specifically described as a compromise, was said to include “strict employer penalties for hiring illegal aliens, building a barrier along the Mexican border and other steps to significantly reduce the number of illegal aliens entering the United States.”
    It would seem that the key would be to win the confidence of the voters that this bill really does those things. If it does and it does it plainly and with border enforcement first (along with "a barrier along the Mexican border"), then there is obvious support for it. There's a lot more for handling this in two completely separate phases, though, which seems to undermine the notion that only a comprehensive plan can unite the nation. Clearly, a borders-only bill to start would have tremendous support, given the data here.

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  108. American Muslims Support Homicide Bombings

    * More than one in four Muslims (or 26%), aged 18-29, said "Suicide Bombing is Justified." 2% percent of them say it can often be justified, 13% say sometimes, and 11% say rarely. Add to that, the 5% don't know/refused to answer this easy, instinctive question, and it's even worse--for a total of 31%--almost a third of young American Muslims, who support homicide bombings. This younger group of Muslims is the most radical, the study found, and it's the largest group of Muslims in America. It is also the future of "America's" Islam.

    * 12% of foreign-born Arab Muslims said that "Suicide Bombing Can be Justified Often/Sometimes." That's more than one in ten. 10% of them don't know/refused to answer. That's a total of 22% who apparently support homicide bombings. That's more than one in five and almost one in four. Yup, if you meet an Arab Muslim on the streets of America, it's a likely one in four chance he/she supports homicide bombings.

    * 8% of all U.S. Muslims said suicide bombing is justified. Add to that the 9% that don't know/refused to answer, and you get 17%, almost 1 in 5 American Muslims. For all foreign-born U.S. Muslims, 9% support suicide bombings--plus 9% refusing to answer, and it's 18%. For all native-born U.S. Muslims, it's 8% who support the bombings, plus 5% who refused to respond--for a total of 13%. Yup, being born and raised in the U.S. isn't the moderating force it's cracked up to be . . . if you're raised in the Islamic faith.

    American Muslims Support Al-Qaeda

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  109. I'm confused now. Who to believe. Pew or Debbie. Sheesh.

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  110. The New York Times is reporting

    Immigration Bill Provisions Gain Wide Support in Poll
    Look at the data. Go to page 20 and tell me if you would come up with the same headlines: The raw data on poll

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  111. Marx just didn't know....but then how could he

    We know Now

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  112. Marx knew...smell his beard! That ain't seafood Habu.

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  113. Having a cult of murderers in the US makes us more diverse and gives the goverment more job opportunities. Your government hates you and wants you to die.

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  114. Well I hate them too,
    so that makes us even.

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  115. Admittedly I have had 1/2 bottle of wine, but this whole thing smells of a Trotskyist plot gone awry to me. Here we are quietly building socialism in one country, our country, and now we are bringing in the proletariat from another country, rather than supporting the revolution there. This thing makes sense from the point of view of the Mexican exploiting classes, to shove potential insurgents out the door, but if we are to help the proletariat in another country sound doctrine dictates action there not here. My dialectical training indicates we are weakening ourselves, and strengthening the Mexican ruling class. Me no sabe. Thought is the curse of the drinking class.

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  116. I'm thinking of taking a lawn chair and a cardboard sign down to 21st street in Lewiston tomorrow--No Amnesty--and seeing what response I get. Would be a first for me, for sure. Most of the people whose opinion of myself mattered to me are dead--these were not demonstrative people-- so I feel liberated to something new. Behold, a voice crying in the smog.

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  117. Audio: The pro-amnesty hotline [Connects you straight to your senator’s office]
    Hot Air ^ | 5/24/07 | Bryan

    Posted on 05/24/2007 7:36:06 PM PDT by PajamaTruthMafia

    We received emails about this all day, but being on the road prevented me from posting anything about it until now. Here’s the story: There is a hotline that has been set up to allow pro-amnesty Spanish speakers to call their senators to voice support for the “comprehensive immigration reform” currently being considered in Congress. The hotline’s number is 800-882-2005, and is answered by a very helpful recording that instructs its callers to say “Support immigration reform that protects families and workers” in English. It also automatically tells you your senator’s name and after a couple of button pushes, connects you straight to your senator’s office. I tried it today and got through to my senator’s office in less than a minute by pushing 1 when the recording started and then 1 again a few seconds later.

    If you’d like a little perspective on just how useful this number is, just trying getting through to your senators through the capitol switchboard. Grab a snack, because you’ll probably be there a while.

    Here’s a rough recording of one of the calls I made to test the line. Give it a good half minute after the initial Skype beeping to hear the line pick up and the recording kick in.

    The hotline is paid for by something called the Coalition for Comprehensive Immigration Reform and it’s being blasted to pro-open borders groups all over the country. The hotline gives its callers access to their senators that average Joes don’t have.

    Well, until now anyway. I used it to register opposition to the immigration bill. Thank you, CCIR!

    More: I forgot to mention that if you hit a 1 first and then a 2, you should get your junior senator. A 1 and then a 1 gets your senior senator.

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  118. Comrades, I've always been open to criticism. Perhaps my synthesis is wrong?

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  119. Bob,

    I admire your pluck but I don't think most people care enough to do a damn thing except gripe to their coworkers. I asked, nay, pleaded with many educated coworkers to call, email, fax their representatives but NONE did.

    We're pissing in the wind

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  120. Q. Why are we having this debate?

    A. The government estimates that there are about 12 million people living in the United States illegally now. Because an illegal worker can't press for fair wages and safe working conditions without risking his or her livelihood, their presence in the workforce tends to depress wages and working conditions for some Americans.

    Q. When would the bill take effect?

    A. People living illegally in the USA who want to attain legal status may apply as soon as the bill becomes law, but other parts of the bill, including a guest-worker program designed to allow more foreigners to work temporarily in the USA, could not take effect until certain "triggers" are in place.

    Q. How would this legislation affect legal residents?

    A. All Americans would be required to show proof of legal status when they apply for a job. The bill would require potential hires to present a U.S. passport or a drivers' license and a newer, more secure Social Security card when they apply for work.


    How it Works

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  122. Good night, and don't ever forget

    Crack that whip
    Give the past the slip
    Step on a crack
    Break your momma's back

    When a problem comes along
    You must whip it
    Before the cream sits out too long
    You must whip it
    When something's going wrong
    You must whip it

    now whip it
    into shape
    shape it up
    get straight
    go forward
    move ahead
    try to detect it
    it's not too late
    to whip it
    whip it good

    When a good time turns around
    You must whip it
    You will never live it down
    Unless you whip it
    No one gets their way
    Until they whip it

    I say whip it
    Whip it good

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  123. Great Catch, Charles.
    Let's us EBers use it to the max until they figure how to screen us out.

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  124. That portrait of Karl has the look of bourgeois art to me. Nite.

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  125. "What Will The Jihadists Do? Apply For Their 601(h) Probationary Status, Of Course"

    According to U.S. Customs and Border Protection apprehension numbers, agentsalong both borders have caught more than 5,700 special-interest immigrantssince 2001. But as many as 20,000 to 60,000 others are presumed to have slippedthrough, based on rule-of-thumb estimates typically used by homeland securityagencies.

    Bensman's many other revelations are as startling as they are disturbing. Though national security officials have long worried about undetected jihadistcells in the country, Bensman's researches make it very clear that evenincompetent and poorly funded Islamist networks could easily have moved scores oreven hundreds of their number into the U.S. in the years since 9/11. Evenincompetent and poorly funded Islamist networks would have known...

    Hewitt

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  126. who else?

    jimi H

    all along the watchtower

    Jimi the Great

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  127. Ingraham has a soundbyte of JAMES WEBB stating his opposition to Amnesty!

    Sidekick says Nelson too!

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  128. Gov Macaca would have been with Bush, of course.
    Being loyal would have gotten a kick in the ass.

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  129. Hrmm, wondering where Whit, Desert Rat, Teresita, and a few other people are.

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  130. Teresita's sposed to be out here somewhere:
    If you're out there can we meet for lunch, Ms T?
    Or maybe with my son, he can do his Flip Minstral Show for you.

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