“Soft despotism is a term coined by Alexis de Tocqueville describing the state into which a country overrun by "a network of small complicated rules" might degrade. Soft despotism is different from despotism (also called 'hard despotism') in the sense that it is not obvious to the people."
Tuesday, May 22, 2007
A Twelve Million Man March. Pass it on.
Why not organize a twelve million person march on Washington and let those politicians know who they work for and what twelve million Americans look like. Let them also know what twelve million illegals represent. Why not?
It would be an event of historical proportion if we could pull enough internet sites together to get that many people or even aa million to DC.
It can be done Farrakhn did it.
It would be, and I don't say this lightly, a revolutionary move and one that would forever cement in history the power of the people in the internet world.
It would have the ability to increase the rate at which the vox populi via the net are altering how their lives are now practically dictated to by the intelligensia in DC.
My idea is there are a lot of people like me out here, a little older, not wanting to sleep in a car or on the sidewalk when the motels are full in D.C. and living along way from Washington D.C. How about some regional actions? I could make it to Seattle. You know, I'm so pissed, I might just go to D.C. on second thought.
We could do it in the capital cities of all the states on the same day, maybe. But how to start to organize such a thing, I don't know. Need some central site that people find out about--but how to get it to people's attention. A site to announce date, time, location.
I've never been to a demo in my life. I would wear a suit, and tie.
No reason why we couldn't do both. The metro DC area is full of retired military that could get to the DC Mall with a show of humanity.
Regionally, state capitals make sense, especially with petrol pretty high. And I'm with ya on not sleep'n in the car. We need to get the word spread to newspapers, NRA,all the organizations we all belong to.. Regional is a great idea. You know the local media all feed inot the nightly news so if on a given day say 100k turned up at various state capitols our point will have been made....and this is still a red state country so I definitely think this is doable..usually there's a talk radio statiion that carries Rush..we need his megaphone ..I have George Wills fax number and office number but it's been yers since we talked and he'd likely not remember me...Rush's megaphone is our best hope...emails to Rush in order...
ANYONE OUT THERE HAVE A BACKCHANNEL NUMBER TO RUSH OR SEAN HANNITY OR ANY MEGAPHONE?????
Have e-mailed Hannity, for what good it might do, can't make it go through to Rush.
The only people for this immigration crap are some employers, and some dem politicians seeking votes. I can't think of anyone else that would be rationally for it, except the illegals themselves of of course.
I don't think much of the equivalence argument. It would be spun as, "If 12 million people can fit into one mid-size city for a demonstration, then surely the country is big enough, etc."
will say that the CPUSA must be tickled pink (!) to see so many principled conservatives going for each other's throats. We better shake this shit, boys & girls, or Aunt Hillary gon' sell us all down de ribber.
Hugh was reading some interesting stuff about elements in the Mexican Govt being very co-operative with our DEA and other agencies, sharing info on known and suspected terrorists, knowing full well that if a major attack is staged from across the border, things will rapidly change, and billions now fed into their economy from illegals here will begin drying up. --- On a less promising note was some source saying we were recruiting agents for Iraqi Borders from our Border Agents here!
He had on a guy today about the 'North American Union,' a professor from American University. The guy kept insisting that all he wanted was a "North American Community" (yet). I was hoping that Dobbs would ask him what the original name of the European Union was.
A robbery and crime spree aided by an unloaded gun came to a halt late Thursday when the gunman met more than his match: a gun with bullets.
Charles Parker Jr., 18, of Detroit was killed when a 53-year-old man pulled out a 9mm handgun and shot the teen, who was armed with an unloaded .22-caliber handgun.
I think June 6th is too aggressive to get the message spread far and wide..BUT July 4th in every state capitol with a goal of average 100k would be a national turnout of 5 million...that talks!
Take the American flags to the capitol grounds, camp out on blankets, take some sparklers and don't let the politicians lure you to the county fair grounds to watch the "big fireworks"...we'll make the fireworks with 100,000 sparklers at nightfall after having made our feeing known throughout the day ...take it to the seat of power, get in their faces even though the politicians will chicken out and won't show the media will not be able to miss the message. In DC we shoot for 250,000 on the Mall which will look impressive. march on the White House, surround it as if it was under seige. The president will no doubt be at Camp David or Texas but the message will be clear, very clear. 250,000 people surrounding the White House. The right of the people to peacefully assemble ..see if DC can uphold the Constitution or if they deny peaceful demonstrators access to the sidewalks around the WH.
I do think July 4th is a doable and it is Independence Day ...send 'em a message.
Trish, No problem except for the endangered Mojave Border-Jumping Blood Sucking Parasite. --- First Protect them. Then Prepare an EIS. Finally, plan your war around them.
So the state of play now is roughly as follows: After six months of tough negotiations, the administration agreed to accept Democratic restrictions in order to gain the prospect of approval of two minor trade agreements. Meanwhile, the more important agreement with Colombia has been put on hold until trade union leaders are satisfied by the Colombian president, Alvaro Uribe, that he will protect union leaders in that country, some of whom have been assassinated.
This is a blow to the Bush administration, which had been counting on Uribe as an ally in its attempts to counter the influence of Venezuela's rabidly anti-American Hugo Chávez.
Also the very important agreement with South Korea has been sent back to the drawing board by a Congress seeking more concessions from that country before it will consider repealing the 25 percent tariff we impose on SUVs manufactured in that country.
Stand in the Gap 2007 is being organized for this fall (Oct 6) on the mall. http://www.standinthegap2007.org/pages/
A good way to do this march is to have your small group of men do a study of Romans timed to reach chapters 3-4 around the Oct 6th time frame. The next chapters will be an epiphany of major magnitude. Because if you leave off at chapter 3 you are inside the mind of a 1st century roman. climbing out of that mind through the following chapters in the context of the stand in the gap march will just knock your socks off.
Clarissa Martinez, campaign manager for the Coalition for Comprehensive Immigration Reform, said her group is walking a fine line in planned radio ads and in the message its member groups are conveying.
"At the end of the day, I think there's two messages" -- support a broad legalization bill, but make sure it doesn't give up key immigrant rights, she said.
She compared the calls senators are getting to a primary election, saying they are hearing from the extremes on both sides of the issue. She said her group is trying to tap into the middle -- "that other 75 percent of the population who agree comprehensive immigration reform with a path to citizenship is a solution" -- so Congress hears from them.
It would be an event of historical proportion if we could pull enough internet sites together to get that many people or even aa million to DC.
ReplyDeleteIt can be done Farrakhn did it.
It would be, and I don't say this lightly, a revolutionary move and one that would forever cement in history the power of the people in the internet world.
It would have the ability to increase the rate at which the vox populi via the net are altering how their lives are now practically dictated to by the intelligensia in DC.
Lets get some idea percolating here folks.
My idea is there are a lot of people like me out here, a little older, not wanting to sleep in a car or on the sidewalk when the motels are full in D.C. and living along way from Washington D.C. How about some regional actions? I could make it to Seattle. You know, I'm so pissed, I might just go to D.C. on second thought.
ReplyDeleteWe could do it in the capital cities of all the states on the same day, maybe. But how to start to organize such a thing, I don't know. Need some central site that people find out about--but how to get it to people's attention. A site to announce date, time, location.
I've never been to a demo in my life. I would wear a suit, and tie.
Bob-l
ReplyDeleteI think your idea is a great one.
No reason why we couldn't do both. The metro DC area is full of retired military that could get to the DC Mall with a show of humanity.
Regionally, state capitals make sense, especially with petrol pretty high. And I'm with ya on not sleep'n in the car. We need to get the word spread to newspapers, NRA,all the organizations we all belong to.. Regional is a great idea. You know the local media all feed inot the nightly news so if on a given day say 100k turned up at various state capitols our point will have been made....and this is still a red state country so I definitely think this is doable..usually there's a talk radio statiion that carries Rush..we need his megaphone ..I have George Wills fax number and office number but it's been yers since we talked and he'd likely not remember me...Rush's megaphone is our best hope...emails to Rush in order...
ANYONE OUT THERE HAVE A BACKCHANNEL NUMBER TO RUSH OR SEAN HANNITY OR ANY MEGAPHONE?????
Working Class Not Stupid About Immigration
ReplyDeleteI hope not.
Have e-mailed Hannity, for what good it might do, can't make it go through to Rush.
The only people for this immigration crap are some employers, and some dem politicians seeking votes. I can't think of anyone else that would be rationally for it, except the illegals themselves of of course.
Just match the cities where the immigrant marchers of a year ago were waving Mex flags.
ReplyDeleteTop ten markets, include DC.
Pro immigrant & anti-illegal.
I like the idea of a march in every major city and state capitol.
ReplyDeleteI don't think much of the equivalence argument. It would be spun as, "If 12 million people can fit into one mid-size city for a demonstration, then surely the country is big enough, etc."
ReplyDeletebuddy larsen:
ReplyDeletewill say that the CPUSA must be tickled pink (!) to see so many principled conservatives going for each other's throats. We better shake this shit, boys & girls, or Aunt Hillary gon' sell us all down de ribber.
5/22/2007 01:47:00 PM
buddy, we hardly knew ye
From a previous thread:
ReplyDelete"Cutler, if patriotism is on the other hand of reason, we are all lost."
In many circumstances, patriotism is irrational. Depends on the country, its current circumstances, and its history.
The concept of "Old Mother Russia" was incoherent in the context of the USSR in June of 1941, but people still believed in and were motivated by it.
Obviously, I think that we (Americans) have much to be proud of collectively. But I don't think that for every people.
ReplyDeleteI can't say enough about someone who recommends that principled individuals forget their principles. For the sake of party comity.
ReplyDeleteIf you are talking about me, do you mind clarifying that?
ReplyDeleteNo, cutler. My 8:39 referenced buddy.
ReplyDeletetrish was, I suppose, speaking of buddy.
ReplyDeleteThat'd be my take, cutler.
buddy, who always was ready to compromise my principles for his position. Which some how was always the "right" one, in his mind.
On Pakistan, immigration, tactics in Iraq, Always the Texican priorities, staying the course, rain or shine. Win or lose.
My bad.
ReplyDeleteEvery Senator Should Read The Bensman Series From The San Antonio Express News
ReplyDeletePosted by Hugh Hewitt
The four part series I noted below is must reading for every senator considering amendments to the draft immigration bill which, at its unveiling, made no provision for treating illegal aliens from countries with known jihadist networks differently from Mexican or Central American immigrants.
Some amazing graphs from part 2:
Hugh was reading some interesting stuff about elements in the Mexican Govt being very co-operative with our DEA and other agencies, sharing info on known and suspected terrorists, knowing full well that if a major attack is staged from across the border, things will rapidly change, and billions now fed into their economy from illegals here will begin drying up.
ReplyDelete---
On a less promising note was some source saying we were recruiting agents for Iraqi Borders from our Border Agents here!
Habu,
ReplyDeleteGlenn Beck might be the man to spread the word. He's pretty "all over" the immigration issue.
Or Lou Dobbs.
ReplyDeleteHe had on a guy today about the 'North American Union,' a professor from American University. The guy kept insisting that all he wanted was a "North American Community" (yet). I was hoping that Dobbs would ask him what the original name of the European Union was.
Can we get it done on June 6?
ReplyDeleteI think the Anniversary of D-Day would kick ass.
The Reflecting Pool as Omaha.
We can take it!
A robbery and crime spree aided by an unloaded gun came to a halt late Thursday when the gunman met more than his match: a gun with bullets.
ReplyDeleteCharles Parker Jr., 18, of Detroit was killed when a 53-year-old man pulled out a 9mm handgun and shot the teen, who was armed with an unloaded .22-caliber handgun.
Detroit police are calling it self-defense.
Killed by Victim
"I think the Anniversary of D-Day would kick ass."
ReplyDeleteI think we ought to go to reenactments. VDH would be there.
Raise a hell of a lot of money and, hey, no real fuss. We can do Desert Storm every Tuesday in the Mojave, no problem.
I'd pay.
I think June 6th is too aggressive to get the message spread far and wide..BUT July 4th in every state capitol with a goal of average 100k would be a national turnout of 5 million...that talks!
ReplyDeleteTake the American flags to the capitol grounds, camp out on blankets, take some sparklers and don't let the politicians lure you to the county fair grounds to watch the "big fireworks"...we'll make the fireworks with 100,000 sparklers at nightfall after having made our feeing known throughout the day ...take it to the seat of power, get in their faces even though the politicians will chicken out and won't show the media will not be able to miss the message. In DC we shoot for 250,000 on the Mall which will look impressive. march on the White House, surround it as if it was under seige. The president will no doubt be at Camp David or Texas but the message will be clear, very clear. 250,000 people surrounding the White House. The right of the people to peacefully assemble ..see if DC can uphold the Constitution or if they deny peaceful demonstrators access to the sidewalks around the WH.
I do think July 4th is a doable and it is Independence Day ...send 'em a message.
Trish,
ReplyDeleteNo problem except for the endangered
Mojave Border-Jumping Blood Sucking Parasite.
---
First Protect them.
Then Prepare an EIS.
Finally, plan your war around them.
The Cesspool as the Drug-Addled Adolescence of Obama.
ReplyDelete(Hussein)
So the state of play now is roughly as follows: After six months of tough negotiations, the administration agreed to accept Democratic restrictions in order to gain the prospect of approval of two minor trade agreements. Meanwhile, the more important agreement with Colombia has been put on hold until trade union leaders are satisfied by the Colombian president, Alvaro Uribe, that he will protect union leaders in that country, some of whom have been assassinated.
ReplyDeleteThis is a blow to the Bush administration, which had been counting on Uribe as an ally in its attempts to counter the influence of Venezuela's rabidly anti-American Hugo Chávez.
Also the very important agreement with South Korea has been sent back to the drawing board by a Congress seeking more concessions from that country before it will consider repealing the 25 percent tariff we impose on SUVs manufactured in that country.
End of Free Trade
Stand in the Gap 2007 is being organized for this fall (Oct 6) on the mall.
ReplyDeletehttp://www.standinthegap2007.org/pages/
A good way to do this march is to have your small group of men do a study of Romans timed to reach chapters 3-4 around the Oct 6th time frame. The next chapters will be an epiphany of major magnitude. Because if you leave off at chapter 3 you are inside the mind of a 1st century roman. climbing out of that mind through the following chapters in the context of the stand in the gap march will just knock your socks off.
Honeysuckle
ReplyDeleteHoping to leave a little levity. Islamic jurisprudence sure tests one's ability to not break out laughing. Nite.
I'll buy a drink for anyone that can read that and keep a straight face.
ReplyDeleteClarissa Martinez, campaign manager for the Coalition for Comprehensive Immigration Reform, said her group is walking a fine line in planned radio ads and in the message its member groups are conveying.
ReplyDelete"At the end of the day, I think there's two messages" -- support a broad legalization bill, but make sure it doesn't give up key immigrant rights, she said.
She compared the calls senators are getting to a primary election, saying they are hearing from the extremes on both sides of the issue. She said her group is trying to tap into the middle -- "that other 75 percent of the population who agree comprehensive immigration reform with a path to citizenship is a solution" -- so Congress hears from them.
Illegals Debate
The Amnesty Fraud--Part II--Sowell
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