COLLECTIVE MADNESS


“Soft despotism is a term coined by Alexis de Tocqueville describing the state into which a country overrun by "a network of small complicated rules" might degrade. Soft despotism is different from despotism (also called 'hard despotism') in the sense that it is not obvious to the people."

Tuesday, May 15, 2007

He Fell Well. Now he is with the true majority. RIP

(hattip: Teresita)

Ron Godwin, Liberty's executive vice president, said Falwell, 73, had been found unresponsive around 10:45 a.m. and was taken to Lynchburg General Hospital.

Godwin said he was not sure what caused the collapse, but noted that Falwell had "a history of heart challenges."

Falwell, a television evangelist who founded the Moral Majority in 1979, became the face of the religious right in the 1980s. He later founded the conservative Liberty University and served as its chancellor.
MSNBC

23 comments:

  1. 2002
    Jerry Falwell calls Islam's Prophet a "Terrorist"
    Pat Robertson: "Islam preaches violence"
    NEW YORK (AP) - The Rev. Jerry Falwell says "I think Muhammad was a terrorist" in an interview to be broadcast Sunday on the CBS program "60 Minutes."

    The conservative Baptist minister tells correspondent Bob Simon he has concluded from reading Muslim and non-Muslim writers that Islam's prophet "was a -- a violent man, a man of war."

    "Jesus set the example for love, as did Moses," Falwell says. "I think Muhammad set an opposite example."

    CBS released a partial transcript of the interview Thursday. Falwell's comments occur in a segment about American conservative Christians' political support for Israel.

    Falwell stood by his opinion in a telephone interview with The Associated Press. He said Simon asked directly whether Falwell considered Muhammad a terrorist and he tried to reply honestly. The minister said he would never state his opinion in a sermon or book.

    "I've said often and many places that most Muslims are people of peace and want peace and tranquility for their families and abhor terrorism," Falwell said. "Islam, like most faiths, has a fringe of radicals who carry on bloodshed wherever they are. They do not represent Islam."

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  2. Some reaction to Falwell's remark about the "prophet":

    Falwell's Comments on Islam Cause Backlash Against Americans
    By Jeralyn, Section Media
    Posted on Tue Oct 15, 2002 at 05:04:50 AM EST
    Tags: (all tags)

    This shows just how dangerous the radical right can be to all of us, not just their extremist followers. From Christian Leaders' Remarks Against Islam Spark Backlash "

    "A recent series of disparaging remarks about Islam by the Rev. Jerry Falwell and other evangelical Christian leaders have sparked riots in India, helped religious parties win elections in Pakistan and undermined public sympathy in Islamic countries for the U.S. war on terrorism, experts said yesterday."

    "Falwell apologized over the weekend for calling Muhammad, the founder of Islam, a "terrorist" in an interview broadcast Sept. 30 by the CBS News program "60 Minutes." "I sincerely apologize that certain statements of mine . . . were hurtful to the feelings of many Muslims. I intended no disrespect to any sincere, law-abiding Muslim," the Southern Baptist minister said."

    "But the damage was done, according to academic specialists. "Jerry Falwell makes a statement, he pleases his constituents, then he says he's sorry and apparently thinks that's the end of it," said Akbar Ahmed, chairman of Islamic studies at American University. "What Americans don't realize is that remarks like this are flashed all over the Muslim world, and they are doing very serious damage to U.S. interests."

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  3. More reaction:
    Muslims press criminal case against Falwell
    Preparing hate-crimes action for labeling Muhammad a 'terrorist'
    Posted: November 14, 2002
    1:00 a.m. Eastern

    By Art Moore
    © 2002 WorldNetDaily.com

    A leading Islamic group in Canada is preparing legal action under the country's hate-crimes laws against the broadcast of Rev. Jerry Falwell's assertion that "Muhammad is a terrorist."

    Canadian Islamic Congress President Mohamed Elmasry told WorldNetDaily he believes criminal charges could be brought against "the person who made the statement and any accessories he used."

    Lawyers retained by the Muslim group also are preparing a formal complaint to the Canadian Radio-television and Telecommunications Commission against all Canadian channels that broadcast the Oct. 6 interview on the U.S. news magazine program "60 Minutes."

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  4. BY JAMES TARANTO
    Monday, October 14, 2002 11:41 a.m. EDT

    Don't Call Me Violent, or I'll Have to Kill Someone
    "Sectarian violence in India's Solapur city, triggered by a protest over comments by US Baptist minister Jerry Falwell against the Prophet Mohammed, has left eight dead and over 90 injured," Agence France-Presse reports. "Police had used gunfire Friday on crowds of rioters of Muslim youths who clashed with groups of Hindus as the protest against Falwell's remarks turned violent."

    We have no brief for Jerry Falwell, who frequently says idiotic things. But let's think this through, shall we? Here are Falwell's remarks to "60 Minutes" that "triggered" the "protest":

    I think Mohammed was a terrorist. I read enough of the history of his life written by both Muslims and non-Muslims, that he was a violent man, a man of war. . . . I do believe that Jesus set the example for love, as did Moses. And I think that Mohammed set an opposite example.

    Now, maybe this is a slander against Islam. Certainly Falwell's use of the term "terrorist" is unfortunate, if for no other reason than that it seems to endorse the extremists' interpretation of Islam, which many Muslims dispute. But if Falwell characterizes Islam as a violent religion and Muslims respond by taking to the streets, rioting and killing people, aren't they sort of making his point?

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  5. Never thought much of Mr Falwell and his ilk, never thought to belittle them, either.

    Wonder if his life after death is what he thought it'd be.

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  6. "I really believe that the pagans, and the abortionists, and the feminists, and the gays and the lesbians who are actively trying to make that an alternative lifestyle, the ACLU, People For the American Way, all of them who have tried to secularize America. I point the finger in their face and say 'you helped this (September 11) happen.'" -- Jerry Falwell

    I think it was those 19 wacky religious fundamentalists on the airplanes with boxcutters, but that's just me.

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  7. While Falwell often had his foot in his mouth, he was generally ready with an Apology too.

    I got the idea he was mostly honest with the money. He did say mo was a terrorist.

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  8. The Lord is kept busy making punishment for those groups that fall away from the straight and narrow. In the near eastern monotheisms, it's always if things go wrong then the Lord has turned away, it's our fault. Many another group around the globe has had that outlook too; if things go wrong, it is because we haven't been living properly. We haven't sacrificed properly, we haven't been living properly, we have fallen and drifted away. We are being punished, we are being called back. With the advance of science, some of this thinking ought to recede a little, one might hope.

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  9. Ms. T...I agree with the Falwell quote. The great thing about him is he never waivered from his opinions even as MSM continued to make him out a dolt. The true heart of a committed Christian.
    Also

    "Dont call me violent, or I will have to kill someone." Priceless!

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  10. WASHINGTON (Associated Press) -- President Bush has chosen Lt. Gen. Douglas Lute, the Pentagon's director of operations, to oversee the fighting in Iraq and Afghanistan as a "war czar" after a long search for new leadership, administration officials said Tuesday.

    In the newly created position, Lute would serve as an assistant to the president and deputy national security adviser, and would also maintain his military status and rank as a three-star general, according to a Pentagon official.
    ...
    Lute became director of operations for the Joint Chiefs of Staff in September. Before that, he served for more than two years as director of operations at U.S. Central Command, during which he oversaw combat operations in Iraq and Afghanistan, along with other regions.


    How much direction does the director of operations give?
    Is General Lute the architiect of the Iraqi military policy, to date?
    Was he directing the operations or just following orders?

    Who is responsible for the lack of operational progress, militarily, during the first three years of thode Operations, if not the director of operations?

    For most of the Iraqi campaign that failed to achieve it's objectives, General Lute was the director.
    Now he speaks directly for Mr Bush.
    Staying the Course with the same cast and crew.

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  11. Falwell never wavered from his prejudices. But he had mo right. Even an old boar finds an acorn once in awhile.

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  12. Whit,
    Falwell didn't take Mo's Saudi Money, so what could he know?

    Rudy turned down Saudi Money:
    The WH compassion gang invites it to visit and share a meal.
    On us.

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  14. What kind of a Defense System does the EB have against govt agents that find EB Members unresponsive on the Bar Floor?
    We need Giuliani Legal in reserve!

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  15. I never cared for the whole television ministry thing. Falwell always seemed to be for real. He seemed ethical and he spoke his mind and stood firm in his beliefs. He represented a large group of people that are conservsative mainstream patriotic Americans.

    That will always get a snicker on Bill Maher, but I'll take the ethics and morality of Fallwell's following over many of his detractors.

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  16. Meanwhile, let US give a moment of thoughtful remorse for the US soldier killed in Pakistan, according to this at westhawk:

    For years the U.S. has attempted to get Afghanistan and Pakistan to reconcile their differences and cooperate against the common terrorist threat. A team of American soldiers organized a meeting on the Pakistani side of the border with Afghan and Pakistani representatives to resolve this latest border clash. After the meeting, as the American and Pakistani delegations were returning to their helicopters, someone opened fire, killing an American and a Pakistani and wounding four of each. A spokesman for the Afghan Defense Ministry blamed this assault on a Pakistani soldier, a charge the Pakistanis deny.

    The WaPo says this about the incident "... soldiers had gotten into a truck and were preparing to leave when a Pakistani militiaman walked up and opened fire. Return U.S. fire killed the gunman, the official said.

    Two for one, they win that hand.

    Don't worry, be happy

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  17. Good to know the Peace Process is Underway re:
    Afghanistan/Pakistan Rat.

    We Are the World!

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  18. bobalharb: I got the idea he was mostly honest with the money. He did say mo was a terrorist.

    And that was an ignorant thing to say. Terrorism is what the vanquished, occupied, and weak resort to. Mo was just a classic conqueror on the order of Alexander or Ghengis Khan. There was a time when the Europeans were scratching a living out of the dirt while the Arabs were making great advances in math and chemistry and astronomy. The fossil fuel thing that has made billionaires out of some of the emirs is only going to take them about halfway through the 21st Century. The smart ones are sticking it in numbered Swiss bank accounts but for the majority of the Arabs, by 2070, you'll see a big die-back and the Bedouin nomadic culture take over again, complete with camels. They will trade little trinkets like the Mona Lisa and the Stone of Scone they grabbed in the Great Sack of Eurabia. Meanwhile, in Washington DC, the Capitol of Greater Mexico, they will pass a subsidy for the 11% of workers who cannot get a job because they only speak English.

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  19. I wonder as his life was ending if G-d heard his prayers...

    I wonder....

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  20. "In the fifteenth and sixteenth centuries, however, artists began to depict the smiles of secular subjects. There are many examples, but Leonardo's Mona Lisa is the most famous. In a Europe that continued to value emotional restraint, her half smile created a lively contemporary impression. Giorgio Vasari, who had not actually seen the work, saw fit to remark in his classic Lives of the Artists that her smile was 'so enchanting that it was more divine than human.' He also pointed out that while Leonardo painted, he had his enchanting subject 'constantly entertained by singers, musicians, and jesters so that she would be merry and not look melancholic as portraits often do.' "

    from 'Happiness'

    Sure hope they don't get the Mona Lisa, those oil men. I thought they were down on art, anyway.

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