COLLECTIVE MADNESS


“Soft despotism is a term coined by Alexis de Tocqueville describing the state into which a country overrun by "a network of small complicated rules" might degrade. Soft despotism is different from despotism (also called 'hard despotism') in the sense that it is not obvious to the people."

Monday, October 30, 2006

Islam Rule Britannia - A Veil of Intimidation is Falling Over Europe

Well, well, well, what a shock. It seems as if the little Muslim girl was not exactly asserting her rights to freedom of expression. She was responding to Islamic intimidation. The continuing drip drip drip of repression is eating away at the very fiber of Europe. They better get wise and the US should be taking very careful notes. Islam is not just another religion. It is a cult that has great wide reaching ambitions. And Herr Schröder and his tribe of left leaning useful idiots are worried about Christianity in America. Europe you may want to see if you can find grandpa's rosary beads.

Hard line cleric had told banned teacher to wear veil in class
30/10/06 Daily Express
By Sarah White

THE Muslim teaching assistant who lost her battle for the right to wear a veil in class was following a religious ruling.

Aishah Azmi, 24, had received the fatwa from hard-line Islamic cleric Mufti Yusuf Sacha.

He is said to teach at the West Yorkshire mosque where two of the London bombers Mohammed Sidique Khan and Shehzad Tanweer were regular worshippers.

Azmi has always claimed she was driven by personal beliefs.

She sparked a nationwide furore by taking the junior school where she worked to an employment tribunal for suspending her over her refusal to remove the controversial niqab in lessons.

She lost her case against Headfield Church of England Primary School in Dewsbury, West Yorkshire, earlier this month.

She was controversially awarded £1,100 for the victimisation that was triggered by her fight, which she aims to take all the way to the European Court of Justice at a cost of £250,000 to British taxpayers.

Her legal team have now revealed that Sacha is one of several hundred British clerics with Mufti status, which grants him the right to issue fatwas based on Islamic law.

He advised her that it is obligatory for women to wear the niqab or face veil in the presence of men who are not blood relatives.

27 comments:

  1. The Islamic take over of Europe within the next twenty years is as accurate an assessment as:
    1. when the Chicoms would have the bomb
    2. when the Wall would fall
    3. when, oh you get the picture..

    Europe is succumbing much quicker than predicted.
    Best we start a massive deportation of Islams from USA now.
    Give Europe 5-7 years. Riots a la France. etc.etc fatwas out the ass....better get to kill'n 'em instead of hosing 'em with warm water.

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  2. RoadtoSerfdom,

    Europe is in a pickle. How do they get out of it? The standard answer on the left is you can't deport them.
    Your point of revisiting in this country their tax status is good but I do not think it will stop the crazed ideology they follow.
    W wanted to fight'em over there but this elections gonna decide that. I don't want to have this country in a shootout, but I'm ready.
    But that can't be the answer, or can it? I really see Europe in a very bad situation that hasn't even hit the man on the street in the USA yet.
    We have inked these problems for years now. Islam, the border.
    Over at Frontpape there is this to ponder.
    The Truth About Mohammad

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  3. I see the fearful xenophobic quaking in fear of Islam continues here at the bar. There was a quite interesting article in the NYTImes Sunday magazine examining Islam, nuclear weapons, suicide bombing ect. Direct to allen and his quest for muslims that condemn 911:

    "In the immediate aftermath of 9/11, it was sometimes asserted in the West that there were no Muslim voices condemning the attacks. This was never true. Prominent Muslim scholars expressed their disapprobation in public arenas like television and the Internet. These included senior Sunni scholars like the grand mufti of Saudi Arabia and the head of Al-Azhar, in Egypt, nominally the flagship institution of Sunni higher learning — who gave a news conference. More popular figures, like Al Jazeera’s resident cleric, Sheik Yusuf al-Qaradawi, explained that Islam “considers the attack on innocent human beings a grave sin.” Shiite scholars also spoke out, including Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, the supreme leader of Iran.

    The position of the Muslim scholars and observers who condemned the 9/11 attacks was simple and consistent across the Sunni-Shiite divide: this was not jihad but an unlawful use of violence. Offensive jihad was prohibited in the absence of formal authorization by a Muslim leader. But even if the attacks could somehow be construed as defensive, the perpetrators of 9/11 broke the rules with their willingness to kill women and children. In confident and insistent tones, these critics cited the classical scholars and insisted that nothing in Islamic law could justify the tactics used by Al Qaeda. Ayatollah Muhammad Husayn Fadlallah, the Lebanese cleric whose spiritual authority is recognized by Hezbollah, gave an interview to the Beirut newspaper Al Safir in which he asserted that given their impermissible choice of targets, the 9/11 bombers were not martyrs but “merely suicides.”

    At the same time, it is important to note that in 2001 few prominent Muslim scholars — the Saudi grand mufti was the main exception — condemned the use of suicide bombings in all circumstances."

    All in all it is a pretty interesting article and it may make y'all quake at a greater frequency.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2006/10/29/magazine/29islam.html?pagewanted=3&_r=1

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  5. Ash, we are not exactly quaking in fear about Islam. Outraged? Yes.

    We are dedicated to exposing Islam for what it is. IMO, It is a sinister sewer of repression, intimidation and terror and worthy of being bulldozed into the historic landfill of other human failures and atrocious ideas. I am always glad to hear that there are Muslims who can state and condemn the outrages in simple declarative sentences, without the use of the "Islamic comma".
    Always Pleased for your undying optimism.

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  6. 2164th, allen in an ealier thread had stated that all muslims are bad..so bad in his view they don't qualify as human. I'm glad you aren't quite that far gone.

    Personally I have no love for the righteous pious certitude of many muslims, or any other religion for that matter. There was that thread about the Australian cleric who likened women without veils as meat laid out and it has been nagging at me that that style of thought isn't really that far out in left field (as in unique to muslims alone). Many a time folks have lamented women's lascivious mode of attire and some have even ventured to use it as a defense in rape trials. In fact Catholics tend to get pious and righteous as well don't they? In fact Pope Pius XI seems to have issued instructions on dress and a Cardinal Santos, while not making reference to meat, does so to sheep:

    "On January 12, 1930, the Sacred Congregation of the Council, by mandate of Pope Pius XI, issued emphatic instructions on modesty of dress to all bishops, directing them to insist on these prescriptions: "We recall that a dress cannot be called decent which is cut deeper than two fingers breadth under the pit of the throat, which does not cover the arms at least to the elbows, and scarcely reaches a bit beyond the knee. Furthermore, dresses of transparent material are improper.

    "Let parents keep their daughters away from public gymnastic games and contests; but, if their daughters are compelled to attend such exhibitions, let them see to it that they are fully and modestly dressed. Let them never permit their daughters to don immodest garb."

    Rufino J. Cardinal Santos, Archbishop of Manila, also quotes these standards as "The Church's Stand concerning Modesty in Dress" in his Pastoral of December 6, 1959. The feminine loss of the sense of modesty was indicated by Pope Pius XII who said: "Now many girls do not see anything wrong with following certain shameless styles (fashions) like so many sheep. They would surely blush if they could only guess the impressions they make and the feelings they evoke (arouse) in those who see them." (July 17, 1954.)

    "O Christian mothers, if only you knew the future distress, peril and ill-restrained shame that you prepare for your sons and daughters by imprudently accustoming them to live barely clothed, and permitting them to lose the sense of modesty, you would be ashamed of yourselves, and of the harm done to the little ones entrusted to you by Heaven to be reared in a Christian dignity and culture.""

    http://olrl.org/virtues/modcrus.shtml

    so, allen, should we add all Catholics into your category with Muslims?

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  7. Phantom Rat, you're a picture behind, try to stay current, aye.

    Otherwise you could claim your own identity.

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  8. If, allen, the attack was on that Paki school was by US and not the Pakis, well well well.

    Really a disappointment, that the Pakis did not act. Though a good thing that US unmanned craft roam the skies.

    Yes, it is not a positive aspect of TWAT that the SecDef tells US that conventional wars will not be fought and asyemetric wars cannot be Won.

    If Victory is not seen as possible, it will not be achieved.
    No matter the spin that deterence can be enough and may be achieved, if the military is given enough time.

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  9. More than 14,000 personal and crew served weapons have been misplaced in Iraq.

    Catch & Release and US arming the insurgents.

    The FOX talking head believes that, perhaps, the Iraqi do not share US goals.

    Who'd have thought.

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  10. DR, the numbers appear worse then just 14k misplaced (maybe it is just the NYT's style of reporting?):

    " In its assessment of Iraqi weaponry, the inspector general concluded that of the 505,093 weapons that have been given to the Ministries of Interior and Defense over the last several years, serial numbers for only 12,128 were properly recorded. The weapons include rocket-propelled grenade launchers, assault rifles, machine guns, shotguns, semiautomatic pistols and sniper rifles.

    Of those weapons, 370,000 were purchased with American taxpayer money under what is called the Iraq Relief and Reconstruction Fund, or I.R.R.F., and therefore fell within the inspector general’s mandate."

    snip

    "There were also significant discrepancies in the numbers of weapons purchased and those in Iraqi warehouses. While 176,866 semiautomatic pistols were purchased with American money, just 163,386 showed up in warehouses — meaning that more than 13,000 were unaccounted for. All 751 of the M1-F assault rifles sent to Iraq were missing, and nearly 100 MP-5 machine guns."

    http://www.nytimes.com/2006/10/30/world/middleeast/30reconstruct.html?pagewanted=2&ref=worldspecial

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  11. Ash,

    re: Roman Catholics

    I will start worrying about Roman Catholics when they start killing their women for lasciviousness - in the interest of tribal honor.

    I will start worrying about Roman Catholics when they start genital mutilation in the form of excision and suturing to insure chastity and to insure that their women are untempted by that feel good feeling.

    I will start worrying about Roman Catholics when 50-80% of them support suicide-homocide bombing.

    No, Ash, Roman Catholics aren't even on the same planet as Muslims.

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  12. Ash,
    Yes, I can barely get through a day without running into article after article by "moderate" Islamists condeming the jihad. It's just overwhelming.
    And the din on TV,radio and all the ships at sea coming from the "moderate" Islamists. It's too profound, too overwhelming. It's over the top. They should quit even trying to explain their religion of peace to hoi polloi.
    What rubes we are for not seeing the religion of peace with the clarity and wisdom you radiate.
    Oh, wise Baghdad Ash, tell me which end of the Islamic turd is clean?

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  13. ahhh heck habu and I thought you were one of them MSM bashers...

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  14. Ash,
    Let me venture a guess. That in the face of the Venona Papers you're one of those people who still condemn Joe McCarthy on the facts, right?

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  15. The spelling is to good, Phantom Rat, besides we don't need beano
    I think you miss the real essence of a Rat's work.
    Eating with sneeze guards, come on, that's silly. Besides the US has never had trouble taking a dump on an allied Indig.

    You really must be bored.

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  16. possumDieter,
    easy on the 'schrooms ole boy.

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  17. If you are ideologicly constipated, Phantom Rat, do not blame the Republicans, nor the Dems.

    Eat a little rabbit food, it'll clear your brain then your bowels.

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  18. Photo change, Phantom, let's be Violent Men, okay

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  19. Just letting the barkeep know not to let the Phantom run my tab, istarious

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  20. Ash,

    Re: NYT and Islam

    What is evident to anyone other than the most gullible Westerner is that what Muslims say to the West is not what is said in the Muslim media or by Muslim elites. Essentially, Muslims are duplicitous, lying trolls. And while I fully appreciate the reluctance of the NYT to sully its pristine record for objectivity by consulting with MEMRI, I would suggest to anyone interested in accuracy to do so.

    Obviously, you have forgotten that on 9/11 and in the days immediately following, Muslims elites were informing their publics that the attack was fomented by the Mossad and/or CIA to justify an attack on the Arab nation for the purpose of monopolizing petroleum product and distribution. Oh, and those conniving Jews working at the WTC were given a heads up and did not appear for work on 9/11. Ash, do you share these beliefs?

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  21. ĕlĭĕ'zər bĕn yĕhū'dă,

    re: Ash

    Don't be too hard on Ash; while inane, Ash is the perfect wipping boy.

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  22. allen, you seem to be conflating Arabs with muslims again. To be accurate not all muslims are arab, not all arabs are muslim and just because some do it doesn't mean they all do. Sure, it is common for Arabs to say one thing in Arabic and something entirely different in English...so?

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  23. Ash,

    No, I am not.

    But even were I, better a conscientious conflator than an oleaginous obfuscator or enervating equivocator.

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