“Soft despotism is a term coined by Alexis de Tocqueville describing the state into which a country overrun by "a network of small complicated rules" might degrade. Soft despotism is different from despotism (also called 'hard despotism') in the sense that it is not obvious to the people."

Tuesday, October 28, 2008

The Bush Legacy: Obama-Pelosi-Reid

October 28, 2008
Obama's First 100 Days
By Patrick Buchanan

Undeniably, a powerful tide is running for the Democratic Party, with one week left to Election Day.

Bush's approval rating is 27 percent, just above Richard Nixon's Watergate nadir and almost down to Carter-Truman lows. After each of those presidents reached their floors -- in 1952, 1974, 1980 -- the opposition party captured the White House.

Moreover, 80 percent to 90 percent of Americans think the nation is on the wrong course, and since mid-September, when McCain was still slightly ahead, the Dow has lost 4,000 points -- $5 trillion to $6 trillion in value.

Leading now by eight points in an average of national polls, Barack Obama has other advantages.

Not a single blue state is regarded as imperiled or even a toss-up, while Obama leads in six crucial red states: Florida, North Carolina, Virginia, Ohio, Missouri and Colorado. Should McCain lose one of the six, he would have to win Pennsylvania to compensate for the lost electoral votes. But the latest Pennsylvania polls show Barack with a double-digit lead.

Lately moving into the toss-up category are Nevada, North Dakota, Montana and Indiana. All voted twice for George W. Bush.

Not only is Obama ahead in the state and national polls, he has more money, is running far more ads, has a superior organization on the ground, attracts larger crowds, and has greater enthusiasm and more media in camp. And new voter registrations heavily favor the Democrats.

Though Congress is regarded by Americans with a disdain bordering on disgust -- five of six Americans think it has done a poor job -- Democratic majorities are certain to grow. Indeed, with Democrats favored by 10 points over Republicans, Nancy Pelosi's majority could grow by 25 seats and Harry Reid could find himself with a filibuster-proof majority of 60 senators.

Democrats already have 49, plus two independents: Socialist Bernie Sanders and Independent Joe Lieberman. Their challengers are now ahead in New Hampshire, Virginia, North Carolina, New Mexico, Minnesota, Oregon and Colorado, with a chance of picking up Georgia, Alaska, Kentucky and Mississippi.

We may be looking at a reverse of 1980, when Reagan won a 10-point victory over Jimmy Carter, and Republicans took the Senate and, working with Boll Weevil Democrats, effective control of the House.

With his tax cuts, defense buildup and rollback policy against the "Evil Empire," Reagan gave us some of the best years of our lives, culminating in America's epochal victory in the Cold War.

What does the triumvirate of Obama-Pelosi-Reid offer?

Rep. Barney Frank is calling for new tax hikes on the most successful and a 25 percent across-the-board slash in national defense. Sen. John Kerry is talking up new and massive federal spending, a la FDR's New Deal. Specifically, we can almost surely expect:

  • Swift amnesty for 12 million to 20 million illegal aliens and a drive to make them citizens and register them, as in the Bill Clinton years. This will mean that Nevada, Colorado, New Mexico and Arizona will soon move out of reach for GOP presidential candidates, as has California.
  • Border security will go on the backburner, and America will have a virtual open border with a Mexico of 110 million.
  • Taxes will be raised on the top 5 percent of wage-earners, who now carry 60 percent of the U.S. income tax burden, and tens of millions of checks will be sent out to the 40 percent of wage-earners who pay no federal income tax. Like the man said, redistribute the wealth, spread it around.
  • Social Security taxes will be raised on the most successful among us, and capital gains taxes will be raised from 15 percent to 20 percent. The Bush tax cuts will be repealed, and death taxes reimposed.
  • Two or three more liberal activists of the Ruth Bader Ginsberg-John Paul Stevens stripe will be named to the Supreme Court. U.S. district and appellate courts will be stacked with "progressives."
  • Special protections for homosexuals will be written into all civil rights laws, and gays and lesbians in the military will be invited to come out of the closet. "Don't ask, don't tell" will be dead.
  • The homosexual marriages that state judges have forced California, Massachusetts and Connecticut to recognize, an Obama Congress or Obama court will require all 50 states to recognize.
  • A "Freedom of Choice Act" nullifying all state restrictions on abortions will be enacted. America will become the most pro-abortion nation on earth.
  • Affirmative action -- hiring and promotions based on race, sex and sexual orientation until specified quotas are reached -- will be rigorously enforced throughout the U.S. government and private sector.
  • Universal health insurance will be enacted, covering legal and illegal immigrants, providing another powerful magnet for the world to come to America, if necessary by breaching her borders.
  • A federal bailout of states and municipalities to keep state and local governments spending up could come in December or early next year.
  • The first trillion-dollar deficit will be run in the first year of an Obama presidency. It will be the first of many.

Welcome to Obamaland!


  1. Notice the body language of Powell and Bush in the photo.

  2. I heard some discussion the other day that Powell had known all along who the leaker was and kept it to himself for two years or more so as to give Bush and the others the discomforts.

    So, I looked in wiki and found this for what it is worth--

    After the indictment of Lewis Libby and the expiration of the term of the initial Grand Jury, Michael Isikoff revealed portions of his new book entitled Hubris: The Inside Story of Spin, Scandal, and the Selling of the Iraq War, co-authored with David Corn, in the August 28, 2006, issue of Newsweek. Isikoff reports that then Deputy Secretary of State Richard Armitage had a central role in the Plame affair.[64]

    In their book Hubris Isikoff and Corn reveal — as both Armitage and syndicated columnist Robert Novak acknowledged publicly later — that Armitage was Novak's "initial" and "primary source" for Novak's July 2003 column that revealed Plame's identity as a CIA operative and that after Novak revealed his "primary source" (Novak's phrase) was a "senior administration official" who was "not a partisan gunslinger," Armitage phoned Colin Powell that morning and was "in deep distress." Reportedly, Armitage told Powell: "I'm sure [Novak is] talking about me." In his Newsweek article, Isikoff states:

    The next day, a team of FBI agents and Justice prosecutors investigating the leak questioned the deputy secretary. Armitage acknowledged that he had passed along to Novak information contained in a classified State Department memo: that Wilson's wife worked on weapons-of-mass-destruction issues at the CIA... [William Howard Taft IV, the State Department's legal adviser] felt obligated to inform White House counsel Alberto Gonzales. But Powell and his aides feared the White House would then leak that Armitage had been Novak's source — possibly to embarrass State Department officials who had been unenthusiastic about Bush's Iraq policy. So Taft told Gonzales the bare minimum: that the State Department had passed some information about the case to Justice. He didn't mention Armitage. Taft asked if Gonzales wanted to know the details. The president's lawyer, playing the case by the book, said no, and Taft told him nothing more. Armitage's role thus remained that rarest of Washington phenomena: a hot secret that never leaked.[64]

  3. Universal health insurance will be enacted, covering legal and illegal immigrants, providing another powerful magnet for the world to come to America, if necessary by breaching her borders.

    People seem to think all you have to do is snap your fingers, and presto, a bunch of great doctors are going to appear.

    It's enough to almost make one hope for a Great Depression.

    But, Trish says we're not to sing any dirges at the bar. So, I won't.

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  5. LA Times holds incriminating tape of Obama and friends, but won't give it up HERE

  6. Earlier this month, the judge berated prosecuting attorneys after evidence arose that prosecutors withheld an FBI investigator's report saying Stevens would have paid his home renovation bills if he had known about them. The judge allowed the trial to proceed, rejecting defense attorneys' request for dismissal.

    The following week, the judge threw out key evidence that prosecutors presented to show that the senator lied on financial disclosure forms. The judge ruled that the government's case that Stevens improperly accepted $250,000 in free home renovations, then failed to disclose them as required by law, was based partly on false and concealed evidence.

    Stevens Trial

    jeez, I'm beginning to wonder if he isn't innocent. After reading this article I can't understand how they came to their decision.

    Maybe they didn't like Powell.

  7. Look on the bright side, at least our children, having received years of free university education will be able to discourse for hours on the Life and Times of Thomas Hardy or George Bernard Shaw. They will enlighten us on their "new way" based on the trailblazing ideas of the Fabian Society.

    Some of us Onslows will find a way to be happy while living on the dole. Some of us will be merely Keeping Up Appearances.

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  9. Fuck you, LaBob!
    I've been harping on that for 3 years!
    What do you do, instantly ignore DougWorld as not worthy of the Almighty Albob on the Cour de Whatever?

  10. When I was a young man trekking across America, I experienced the rich diversity of a cross-country ride in a big, grey dog.

    Little did I know then that this would be preparation for my dotage.

    Oh boy, life at the bus station! What a trip!

  11. You and Rat have opened my eyes to a lot of stuff about immigration for sure, Doug, it was off my radar till I was mostly retired with nothing much to do but look at the computer screen.

    This election might surprise a little. It hasn't take place yet.

    Stevens should have retired, he's too old anyway, and backed some other decent conservative. Reading that article, I'm almost inclined to believe the guy. But juries most often get things right, according to my judge/lawyer. He thinks they do a pretty good job.

  12. Some friends road in a boxcar from here to hell and back once, just for the experience of it. Almost got themselves locked in, when the train decoupled a few cars at a siding. Said if that door had slammed shut, which it almost did, won't have been any way to get it open. Three or four months later, five or six college youths found dead in a boxcar.

  13. If the Socialist is, indeed, elected, we can probably say farewell to the United States as we knew it... and we may as well kiss the Constitution goobye after he appoints his choice of Supreme Court judges.

  14. Feller named 'we' from Pennslyvania predicts McCain to win there--

    What about Nader?

    NOTE: In 2004, Democrats kept Nader off the ballot in Pennsylvania. Nader sued after the election, and won the right to be on the ballot in 2008. We truly believe if Nader had been on the ballot in PA in 2004 that Bush would have won the state — Nader would have siphoned off 3% of the vote from Kerry (and since Kerry only won the state by 2.5%, that would have thrown it to Bush). In 2008, the article about says Nader’s “only polling in single digits”. In PA, that probably would be about 2-3% again. A lot of that Nader support comes from the Pittsburgh area.

    We believe Nader will suck enough support from Obama to win PA for McCain — but it won’t be Nader alone that does this. In 2004, Democrats were united against Bush, if not unified in support of Kerry. And yet, 3% or so of them wanted to vote for Nader and couldn’t because Democrats kept him off the ballot. Some of them are still ticked off about that, and will be voting for Nader this year to make up for not being able to do so 4 years ago. There’s also DeMcCrats for McCain - who didn’t exist in 2004. In Pennsylvania, all the Democrats we know there are voting for John McCain. Some of them are old enough to have voted for Reagan against Carter in 1980. That’s what they’re doing this time, too — voting Republican because the socialist Democrat is not acceptable to them.

    If Kerry just barely won the state in 2004, and Nader and these DeMcCrats for McCain weren’t around back then, we don’t see how Obama wins Pennsylvania this year. He’ll win Philly with large numbers, but we don’t think he’ll take Pittsburgh or the rest of the state. Remember, the polls leading up to the primary claimed Obama would beat Hillary Clinton in Pennsylvania — and she won the state by 10%. There’s something like 12-15% “undecided” in PA right now, but we don’t believe that. Those people aren’t “undecided”: they just aren’t telling pollsters they aren’t voting for Obama. “Undecideds” broke for Hillary Clinton 4:1 in the primaries. That means for every 12% “undecided” you see, tack on an extra 9 points for McCain, with just another 3 for Obama. Factor in Nader and the poll’s margin of error, and McCain squeaks out a Keystone State win — the first Republican in generations to do so

  15. Hermit, you sound like the kind of person can ride out the storm better than most of us, with your name:)

    Just don't take in any more news, nothing will bother you.

  16. I just hid some price increases into my stores..

    getting ready for the tax increases...

  17. Bush seems to slither around Powell.

  18. Via Unqualified Offerings:

    Your truer words were never spoken words of the day come from Benjamin H. Friedman of Cato:

    What’s important to keep in mind is that cutting defense spending requires cutting defense commitments and force structure. [Barney] Frank is quoted saying: “We don’t need all these fancy new weapons.” That’s true, but you don’t save 25% of the budget by going after weapons procurement alone. You need to cut force structure. If you do that while keeping troops in Afghanistan, Iraq, Korea, the Philippines, and Japan, sending a peacekeeping force to Sudan, defending Taiwan, threatening Iran, rebuilding a failed state or two, and defending Georgia and Ukraine from Russia, the military will scream in justified agony. Saving on defense starts with doing less.

    Posted by Jim Henley @ 10:16 pm, Filed under: Main

    Indeed. But are Americans in general truly comfortable with the idea of doing less?

    I posted this a few days ago, in response to Bacevich. Food for thought:

    It's quite breathtaking, to me anyway, that the period from 1991 to the present has seen a continuous series of wars and other military interventions. Stunning, actually. Allowing for the occasional pause, we can take this much further back. "Who are we fighting today?" is not just an old Green Zone joke.

    Americans in general are comfortable, uniquely comfortable, with the projection, and garrisoning, of force abroad. It's part of what we do and who we are. It is embedded in our culture. If we sometimes tire of it or fight about it or turn sour over it...there it is.

    I, too, think McCain would be less inclined to intervention than Obama. But I don't believe, foreign policy-wise, that there would be radical differences between the two in practice. Differences of style and emphasis, sure. Operations in Iraq and Afghanistan, for instance, will change shape; but they won't end. No one's going to advise that; no one's going to undertake it. And looking down the road, I don't know how far, Central and South America will explode onto the radar again. Will it make a great difference who is in the Oval Office when that happens? Entire industries are devoted to steering our responses.

    None of this is meant to be cynical or sneering. Just to say that one election - this election - is not going to change our stripes. WE are who WE are. And WE live in a Shit Happens world.

    Wed Oct 22, 02:02:00 PM EDT

  19. Bush has Slithered Around JUSTICE like a snake since Ashcroft left.
    Justice and Vote Fraud -

    The lawyers at the Civil Rights Division are already falling into line. Justice recently decided to reverse a policy in place since 2002 to send criminal attorneys and other federal employees to monitor polling places. The decision came two weeks after a September meeting to which the Civil Rights Division invited dozens of left-wing activist groups to discuss voter "access" to the polls.

    Justice has also failed to enter the fray in Ohio. As many as 200,000 new voter registrations in that state are suspect, yet Democratic Secretary of State Jennifer Brunner is refusing to follow the 2002 Help America Vote Act that requires her to verify these registrations. The Ohio Republican Party sued Mrs. Brunner, but the Supreme Court said the GOP lacked standing. Justice does have standing -- it is charged with upholding that law -- but has ignored the fight. The Justice excuse is that it isn't appropriate to file litigation so close to Election Day.

    Yet that hasn't stopped the Civil Rights Division this month from filing a lawsuit against Waller County, Texas, to correct alleged violations of the Voting Rights Act; a lawsuit against Vermont for failing to report accurately on overseas ballots; and an amicus brief in a case filed by a civil-rights group that is suing to stop the Georgia Secretary of State from complying with voter verification rules. Justice's election suits always seem to side with liberal priorities.

    It doesn't help Justice's credibility that attorneys charged with supervising voting issues are avowed Barack Obama supporters. According to Federal Election Commission data, James Walsh, an attorney in the Civil Rights Division, has donated at least $300 to Mr. Obama. His boss, Mark Kappelhoff, has given $2,250 -- nearly the maximum. John Russ, also in Civil Rights, gave at least $600 to Mr. Obama.

  20. None of this is meant to be cynical or sneering. Just to say that one election - this election - is not going to change our stripes. WE are who WE are. And WE live in a Shit Happens world.
    Ruth Bader Ginsberg = Scalia
    My Ass!

  21. Marx = Washington

    Doug wins Noonan/Buckley prize for intellectual Pinhead of the Year!


  22. Doug,

    I was referring to national security policy specifically. Don't get all up in arms.

  23. You know damn well I arm up whenever there's a keyboard at hand., I don't I don't really believe the Nationl Security argument when we're talking the Marxist Jew Baiting, America Hating Messiah and his Virgin Michelle.

  24. Obama Pelosi Reed = McCain Palin on Colombia?

    ...explain that one please!

  25. The defense commitment to Colombia will continue regardless. As it should, IMO. The FTA, that's probably dead for the duration (of the recession and/or the Obama presidency).

  26. LaBob, the FU was for Armitage, kapisch?

  27. " The FTA, that's probably dead for the duration (of the recession and/or the Obama presidency)."
    Freedom Marches On!
    ...over the cliff.

    Will be interesting to see what happens wrt Defense.

    I think you pay too little respect to Pelosi-Reid-Obama and their commitment to their base and their principles.

  28. ...Assuming you can call the Anti-Christ's Goals

  29. The mothership is, however, robbing Colombia to pay Iraq - in the form of trish's husband. So pick another day to be nasty, chihuahua. Please.

  30. I think you pay too little respect to Pelosi-Reid-Obama and their commitment to their base and their principles.

    Tue Oct 28, 01:17:00 PM EDT

    I know the defense/national security industry, Doug. We're not looking at biblical changes.

  31. Hey, you, 'Rat, and me agree on that!
    Not Fair.
    Even Chihuahua's have feelings.

  32. Trish is on record declaring
    THE MESSIAH will not bring Biblical Change.

    Remember that!

  33. (does she consider the receding of the waters "Biblical Change?")
    ...only time will tell.
    I have to believe

  34. If it is the antiChrist, it's preordained, if not, then the show will get a little more interesting.

    After five years the US goes after a Syrian terrorist basecamp, and only kills seven.

    Either there never was much there, or the whole thing is over hyped to an extreme.

    Which, looking at the dailies from the MNF, seems to be the case, a lot of hype, about nothing.

  35. President Barack Obama!

    Believe It!

    Feel It!

  36. I thot Trish said we've been doing it all along...

  37. It wasn't "nothing," Rat.

    I attempted to explain this yesterday.

    But I am so fucking weary of your daily jaundice I could spit. Or go take a nap.

  38. I'm torn, really.



    That's a tough one.

  39. I did not say it was "nothing" but I did read where the current infilration, of terrorists, was about 20 or so, a month.

    Down from a hundred.
    Not much of a conduit, in either case.

    So, a platoon of terrorists were crossing into Iraq.

    That is not "a lot".

    Not considering there are 150,000 US troops there to deal with them.

    Or is it, a lot, for 150,000 US military to have to deal with?

  40. Think of 'Rat as the Mouthpiece of the Left @ EB, Trish.
    Improves the Digestion.
    No spitting required.

  41. News from Tuesday, a whole lot of nothing

    Iraqi Joint Headquarters hosts logistics training exercise

    IA seize weapons caches throughout Baghdad

    New, old commands meet with influential local leader

    Iraq Army benefits by joint planning

    Iraqi Oil Police look to secure Iraq’s critical oil infrastructure (MNSTC-I)

    Coalition forces further dismantle AQI networks, detain seven suspects (Kirkuk)

    Coalition forces apprehend Katai’b Hezbollah suspects (Sadr City)

    MNSTC-I J4 delivers critical oil to Iraqi River Patrol unit

    MND-B Soldiers find weapons, ordnance in Rashid

    IA seize weapons caches throughout Baghdad

    Nothing happened, but eyewash, unless the actions of the Iraqi Army are factored in.

  42. If we look at Monday's news, we are back to celebrating school openings.
    A couple of them, for $10 billion per month.

  43. Hehe. I just finished a text chat with my 11 year old Israeli nephew, and kid writes like a regular gansta homeboy. Scary.

  44. Gary Owen, playin' soccer, on $10 Billion USD per month expense account.

    RELEASE No. 20081025-02
    Oct. 25, 2008

    Garry Owen Battalion scores ‘goal’ in Amarah

    Contingency Operating Base Garry Owen, Iraq – Scrambling for the ball, the two men collided, both focused on the mission at hand Oct. 23. The man in red, a member of the 3rd Battalion, 38th Brigade, 10th Iraqi Army Division, came to his feet first and dashed toward the soccer ball, while his blue clad opponent, a member of the Abu Rummanah District All-Stars, could do nothing but watch.

    The IA soldier drew his leg back, kicked the ball past the goalie, and the referee yelled, “goal!”
    “We are doing good things here for the people in this province,” said Lt. Col. Huseiu Abdfileih, an officer from the 3rd Battalion, 38th Brigade, 10th Iraqi Army Division who helped coordinate the soccer game.

    Really vital to the US security interest in the Middle East.

  45. Maybe they need a new referee, trish.

  46. "Amigo" now makes my flesh crawl and my eye twitch uncontrollably. No fault of the Colombians.

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  48. Really vital to the US security interest in the Middle East.

    Military Keynesian. Tiz all good. Keeps Trish busy in her 400 sq ft marble gilded bathrooms.

  49. As well it should, amiga.

    Thee is a greater threat to US security, from terrorist activity in Nogales, Mexico than Amarah, Iraq.

    And that, dear lady, is the unvarnished truth.

  50. In any event, I'm staying in Bogota for the duration rather than heading back. Weather sucks but home is where the armored vehicle is.

  51. All we're missing is Ash, Doug, and we'll have a party.

  52. Tuesday at the Bar Party.

    Cats in a Bag Party.

    Hey-Where's-Our-Token-Lutheran? Party.

    You're-Sending-Me-Where? For-How-Long? Party.

    You're Shitting Me. Party.

    We're Doomed Party.

  53. 32. mika2k1 said...

    without a doubt c4 is a kraut.

    He’s not a kraut. He’s a jihadi. The Nazi routine is subterfuge.

  54. Missing Ash,
    ...and it isn't even Wednesday.

  55. Your staying in Bogata for the Duration of the IRAQ Tour, Trish?

  56. His handlers must have recognized an urgent need elsewhere.

  57. Probly some kind of secret op to neutralize enemy Psyops output emanating from Arizona.

  58. Yes, I am. My son and I. We were given the choice and I'm not going to pull him out of school again and put us through the relocation wringer. Additionally, there's a flat-out fantastic group of people here. Doesn't make sense to do otherwise.

  59. All Ghetto Children should have the same educational opportunities as your family!
    Vote NEA!
    Vote Obama!

  60. Ash isn't here, so I thot I'd speak up for him.

  61. LOL. Thankless job, but someone's gotta do it, Doug.

    Otherwise it wouldn't be Another Day at the Bar.

  62. Or, in BuffetWorld,
    Another Day in Paradise!

  63. It used to be rufus's "Look, guys" that got to me.

    Now it's "amigo." And that fucking camel - is it a camel? - in the avatar.

  64. I only see the head.

    How do you enlarge those things?

  65. "amigo" = take off on

    "My Friend" escapee from the alienated subconscious.

  66. Brilliant!

    Why didn't I think of that?

    Well, I'm going to look over recipes for my potatoes au gratin. (OH graw-TAN). Something a little different this time, seeing as how it's for the insurgency and all. Er, counterinsurgency. A Jelly Bean topping, maybe. Or Fruit Loops mixed in.

    Bryson would understand.

  67. Yes, ash, I want you to snatch Rat and drive him around in the trunk of your vehicle for a couple of weeks. There's a casserole in it for you. So long as you KYMS.

  68. KYMS ?? I hope it is as good as SWAG is in the acronym world.

    I saw this and thought of Rat:

    "The trillions of dollars injected into system while this is happening must eventually snap-back as people shed the last fungible article and compete for necessary commodities like food and fuel with dollars that are suddenly plentiful but worthless. At some point, the government may have to summon up a new currency. I don't think it will be anything like the "Amero" which the paranoid fringe incessantly mutters about as part of their fantasy in which the US, Mexico, and Canada all join up to become one country. But any "new dollar" would probably have to be backed by gold."

  69. I think that's still legally defensible in some states.

  70. Hey, Rufus, there's good news for you and me.
    Judge Rules Park Bench Can Be Used As Address

    If this takes hold nationally, you can vote with me in Coeur d'Alene.

  71. DR
    There is a greater threat to US security, from terrorist activity in Nogales, Mexico than Amarah, Iraq.

    And that, dear lady, is the unvarnished truth.


    Your problem south of the border is just old fashioned banditos with machetes and machine guns...

    you could blow up the entire area tomorrow and it still means nothing.

    now that small little place in syria/iraq?

    could cause the compete destruction of 400 million people AND the 1/2 the world's oil supply.

    that is a fact...

  72. Rat Snatching is legal in all 348 states, not sure about Hawaii and Alaska...perhaps "grass skirt Doug" would know.

  73. Don't worry. I make that mistake often.

  74. Hell gag, I thought we had expanded the empire, for a second.

    Wrong, wi"o", the cities of Iraq are not a threat to anyone in Arizona, as those the soccer matches stand in stark evidence of.

    No threat there, except to and for the Iraqi. No threat to AZ, but the Mexicns, with assualt weapons and protective body armour, they do operate in Phoenix. But not one jihadi has come here, to kill civilians, as do the Cartels, presently.

    Drug cartels can flip to ideological extremists, with nary a whisper. Just watch, as Mexico melts down.

    The Syrian threat shoulc and could have been dealt with years ago. That is was not, stands in evidence that there is no threat.
    Not gathering, nor even present, or the Bush Doctrine of preemptive military action would have beem utilized, there, in 2003.