“Soft despotism is a term coined by Alexis de Tocqueville describing the state into which a country overrun by "a network of small complicated rules" might degrade. Soft despotism is different from despotism (also called 'hard despotism') in the sense that it is not obvious to the people."

Monday, April 30, 2007

US and EU want closer ties, but there is a problem

...and the problem is that these "English gentlemen", Islamic psychos all, are also holders of English passports. If you scan down the article you will come to the part about the EU wanting their citizens to not require visas. That is a problem. Their immigration standards are at least as bad as ours, but they are more generous in handing out ( in this case) English passports. What do you say about that?

US and EU foresee 'single market'

The United States and the European Union are to sign up to a new transatlantic economic partnership at a summit in Washington.
The pact is designed to boost trade and investment by harmonising regulatory standards, laying the basis for a US-EU single market.

The two sides will sign an Open Skies deal, designed to reduce fares and boost traffic on transatlantic flights.

But there will be only limited agreement on climate change.

Richest regions

The two sides will agree to set up an "economic council" to push ahead with regulatory convergence in nearly 40 areas, including intellectual property, financial services, business takeovers and the motor industry.

Without the US there can't be any success in coping with a globalised world
European diplomat

Limited hopes for EU-US summit
The aim is to increase trade and lower costs.

Some reports suggest that incompatible regulations in the world's two richest regions add 10% to the cost of developing and producing new cars.

German Chancellor Angela Merkel, whose country holds the EU's rotating presidency, said last month that if the US and EU can set business norms today, they will "secure the markets of tomorrow".

She has made repairing damaged relations with the US a top priority, since she came to office 18 months ago.

Emission cuts

According to the Reuters news agency, a draft statement to be agreed at the summit says climate change is a central challenge that requires "urgent, sustained, global action".

The draft reportedly also says the EU and US are committed to stabilising greenhouse gases, acknowledges the work of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) and urges the development and commercialisation of advanced technologies to "significantly cut" global emissions.

But correspondents say Ms Merkel faces a hard task persuading the US to agree to binding international commitments on fighting climate change, before a G8 summit Germany is chairing in six weeks' time.

President George Bush has refused to impose national limits on greenhouse gas emissions, saying they would harm the international economy.

Visa hope

The EU is hoping that the US will agree to withdraw its demand for travellers from a number of EU states to apply for visas.

It also wants an agreement to start work on another aviation deal, that would deepen the Open Skies pact, and enable Europeans to buy US airlines.

The President of the European Commission, Jose Manuel Barroso, will also represent the EU side.

In three working sessions with President George Bush, they are expected to discuss Iran, Kosovo, Iraq and Afghanistan.


  1. Christopher Hitchens doesn't much like George tenet's new book either.

    "A Loser's History
    George Tenet's sniveling, self-justifying new book is a disgrace.
    By Christopher Hitchens"

    in part the critque:

    I only mean to say that it was a very favorably disposed chronicler who wrote this, in describing Tenet's reaction on the terrible morning of Sept. 11, 2001

    "This has bin Laden all over it," Tenet told Boren. "I've got to go." He also had another reaction, one that raised the real possibility that the CIA and the FBI had not done all that could have been done to prevent the terrorist attack. "I wonder," Tenet said, "if it has anything to do with this guy taking pilot training."

    Tenet's Book

  2. Hitchens coup de grace

    A highly irritating expression in Washington has it that "hindsight is always 20-20." Would that it were so. History is not a matter of hindsight and is not, in fact, always written by the victors. In this case, a bogus history is being offered by a real loser whose hindsight is cockeyed and who had no foresight at all.

  3. "A highly irritating expression in Washington has it that 'hindsight is always 20-20.' Would that it were so. History is not a matter of hindsight and is not, in fact, always written by the victors. In this case, a bogus history is being offered by a real loser whose hindsight is cockeyed and who had no foresight at all."

    Honestly, I don't know what everyone's bitching about. He helped get us there, did he not? He even fell on his sword for us. If that's not worth a Medal of Freedom and at least one confused tell-all, I frankly don't know what is.

    Loser? Absolutely not.

  4. An absurd review of the immediate past.

    'Mr. President, May I have a word with you?'

    'Sure, Colin, come on in.'

    'Sir, I worked very hard on that presentation at the U.N. and now I'm being told that all of the CIA stuff is wrong—— superseded by info produced by some secret group. I hope I'm not out of line here, but who are these people?'

    'You don't want to know.'

    'With all due respect, it would be nice if we were all on the same page.'

    'Well, does Roswell, New Mexico mean anything to you?'

    'Sir? Roswell, New Mex...Oh, no! You've got to be...'

    'I said you didn't want to know.'

    'Can I get a couple of aspirin?'

    'No problema. Look, we're going to go in looking for weapons and they're not going to be there—get it?'

    'Frankly, no: I don't get it. What am I supposed to get?'

    'Calm down. That business at the U.N.——I was having some fun with you. All those charts and photos—I was fooling with you.'

    'Jesus, how am I going to face that smug Frog?'

    'Forget about him. Now, what you got to get is that there are no WMDs in Iraq.'

    'What we're going to get is our lungs ripped out. They'll crucify us—pardon the expression. It'll look like the Mongol hordes sweeping across the steppes—Teddy Kennedy, the crazy old windbag from West Virginia, Weird Al Gore: Dracula rises from his coffin! Hillary sniping from the sidelines, all of your media pals piling on, every airhead lefty in Hollywood—— talk about overwhelming force! You've got to postpone this thing. Or, if nothing can change your mind, at least change the emphasis. The public wants Saddam out. Make a plausible case and they'll listen'

    'Whee, dowgie! I already had this conversation today. My brain trust was in here—you never saw anything like it. They was crying real tears and hollering, saying as how we could liberate all those poor people and nobody really knows where Saddam hid the germs and chemicals and the yellow—cupcake, anyway...'

    'And you don't appreciate those arguments—those extremely reasonable arguments?'

    'Hell, no. You should have seen the look on Karl's face when I slapped his knee real hard and told him that I can't steal no election that I'm winning by fifteen points. He looked fit to bust. And Dick's going on and on about his damn palpitations—the man was sweating like a hog.'

    'I don't want to rule out the possibility that I'm hallucinating, but humor me, sir. Why on earth would you voluntarily present a club to all of your enemies, flush almost two years of historic achievements down the toilet, and with your own hands, trash your re—election prospects?'

    'I'm a wild man.'


    'What can I say? I always been one.'

    There's a related scenario in the fantasies of the fever swamp inhabitants, this one starring Rove and Cheney. They apprise the President of their plan to shave thirty points off his approval ratings and he wants to know if fifty is bigger than eighty. You get the idea.

    I think we can all agree that the dialogue just presented was extremely silly: puerile, preposterous, nonsensical, farcical—pick an adjective. Yet, before you dismiss it and begrudge the time spent reading it, do bear in mind that it is precisely what the Bush—bashers profess to believe. Bush duped Congress and the rest of the nation! Absolutely, and he did it in order to cast doubt on all of his policies and take a plunge in the polls. The CIA was told to produce intelligence that the President wanted to hear! Sure, he wanted faulty intelligence so that he could act on it and be held responsible for it. He knew that the loyal opposition and the fair and balanced media would consider only the good of the nation and give him a pass for any errors in judgment.

    The assault on the President is based on an utterly ludicrous premise —— a phony premise, but nothing seems capable of containing its berserker fury. Many years ago, an economics professor at Queens College offered these words of wisdom to his undergraduate students: During the course of your lives, you will meet clever people who will regale you with theories, some of them greatly ingenious, explaining how the universe operates; when they get to the part that requires water to run uphill, you need to stop them.


  5. "During the course of your lives, you will meet clever people who will regale you with theories, some of them greatly ingenious, explaining how the universe operates; when they get to the part that requires water to run uphill, you need to stop them."

    I absolutely agree. That's a keeper if ever there was.

  6. First white men coulf jump.
    Now "Ask a Mexican" from the paper Orange Country Register addresses us as gabachos...not a term of endearment folks.

    Ask a Mexican!
    By Gustavo Arellano
    Thursday, January 13, 2005 - 12:00 am

    Illustration by Mark Dancy
    Dear Mexican,

    My friend and I were wondering why Mexican girls are so beautiful when they are teenagers, then over the years, they become fat, old bags?

    Mark M.

    Costa Mesa

    Dear Gabacho,

    Get your facts straight. Women raised in Mexico who migrate here maintain their beauty forever—check out pictures of silent-film goddess Dolores del Río, who gave men palos even into her 80s. Their hijas, on the other hand, are the ones who blow up into blimps. The difference? A Mexican mom’s 18-hour workday—the mopping and kid-rearing for other families and hers, the factory-working, and the husband’s lunch preparing—keeps the flab off; any thickness is muscle earned from repetitive work that would crumble a weightlifter. The daughters, meanwhile, are as American as you, gabacho: they’re spoiled, fat asses who party hard, overeat and don’t do quehaceres (chores) after coming home from a day at the office or Chicano Studies class because they have a Mexican to do it—their mami.

    Got a spicy question about Mexicans? Ask the Mexican at

  7. some white men can't type ,proofread or spell....

    "First white men couldn't jump"

  8. Is that Ash on the right?
    If so, what the Hell is he doing on the right?

  9. As we approach the dinner hour on the East Coast don't forget to raise that toast to the 62nd anniversary of the death of Adolf I said before may he continue to burn in hell!

  10. You called him a dumb ass, as I recall.

    But he never fell into the Kool Aid vat. There's something to be said for that. A lot, in fact.

    Back when you were vetting Clarke and Scheuer at BC...ash wasn't.

  11. I'm sure neither did Chomsky.

    They've got their own "kool-aid."

  12. I think Habu missed this in the last three threads, so I'll try again:

    Richard Clarke, Michael Schuere, and John O'neill knew plenty about where and what bin Laden and Al Queda were up to.
    Despite Clarke running around screaming just that, neither the Clinton nor Bush Admins were interested in distracting themselves from whatever they thought more important.
    Not too hard to confirm that scenario with a quick read of Clark's memo to National Security Despiser, Dr Condi Rice written in January 2001.

    What good is a Phd, when it's holder is a LIAR?
    Washington, D.C., February 10, 2005 - The National Security Archive today posted the widely-debated, but previously unavailable, Washington, D.C., February 10, 2005 - The National Security Archive today posted the widely-debated, but previously unavailable, January 25, 2001, memo from counterterrorism coordinator Richard Clarke to national security advisor Condoleezza Rice
    - the first terrorism strategy paper of the Bush administration.

    The document was central to debates in the 9/11 hearings over the Bush administration's policies and actions on terrorism before September 11, 2001. Clarke's memo requests an immediate meeting of the National Security Council's Principals Committee to discuss broad strategies for combating al-Qaeda by giving counterterrorism aid to the Northern Alliance and Uzbekistan, expanding the counterterrorism budget and responding to the U.S.S. Cole attack. Despite Clarke's request, there was no Principals Committee meeting on al-Qaeda until September 4, 2001.

    The January 25, 2001, memo, recently released to the National Security Archive by the National Security Council, bears a declassification stamp of April 7, 2004, one day prior to Rice's testimony before the 9/11 Commission on April 8, 2004. Responding to claims that she ignored the al-Qaeda threat before September 11,

    Rice stated in a March 22, 2004 Washington Post op-ed,

    "No al Qaeda plan was turned over to the new administration."

  13. I plead guilty to Clarke, but not to Scheuer.
    I was wrong, but not perfectly so.
    And you must admit Ash has his quirks, musn't you?

    Wish I knew which thread that dumbass comment is on, think I'll stand by that one.

  14. Yes, indeedy, Trish, I'll stick with this one:

    The 'limited' war for 'hearts and minds' The 'limited' war for 'hearts and minds'
    By Diana West

    Someday, when the war in Iraq has become a historical episode, we will tally up the lessons learned -- if, that is, we ever learn any. Here are two worth mastering because failing to do so probably means we will no longer exist.

    1. Nation-building in a war zone is nuts. Nation-building in an Islamic war zone is suicide.

    According to, more than half of those polled in Indonesia, and three-quarters of those polled in Egypt, Morocco and Pakistan believe in the strict application of Sharia, or Islamic law. Nearly two-thirds of all respondents expressed their desire to see the Islamic world united in a caliphate.

    Which brings me to Lesson 2.

    With numbers like these, portraying jihadist war goals (Sharia, caliphate) as belonging to a "tiny band of extremists" is nuts.
    Persisting in this PC fantasy as part of the narrative and strategy of the "war on terror" is suicidal.

    Sat Apr 28, 05:08:00 AM EDT
    Doug said...
    There's your moderate muslim majority Ash.

  15. They've got their own "kool-aid."

    - cutler

    Is ash a devote of Chompsky and company? We'll have to ask.

  16. Ash is from the Mr. Rogers visits Potemkin, gives up Christianity and becomes a Communist School.

  17. 1. Nation-building in a war zone is nuts.

    Aaaand, the first response I made to a post of yours was that it is the best we could ever hope for that Iraq would not fly apart, but that we would not be able to transform it as eagerly planned and anticipated.

    You rested your genuine faith upon our fighting men and women.

    And with our fighting men and women transformation still rests.

  18. After WII the USA took in over a million badly traumatized concentration camp jews. Less than Seven years after the end of wwII-- during the mcCarthy era knowledgeable american communists accused--soto voce-- american christians/conservatives/republican
    of doing through McCarthy/Nixon what stalin was about to do in the Doctors plot. Start a haulcaust scale pogrom against american jews. It seemed reasonable accusation to many American jews so soon after the experience in Europe. McCarthy's antics did look like a soviet style show trial. And the rosenbergs were executed. The accusation was a blood libel that has done untold damage to the USA.

    The great liklihood is that europe will kick out moslems. If they come to the USA they will, quite simply, murder this country. Because the USA is full of christians and jews.

  19. But then, you do have that soft spot for lefties:
    Wolcott comes to mind, among others.

  20. Mr. Rogers.

    Of course you would never think of yourself as such.

  21. Hey Trish, how many times do I have to admit/assert I was wrong?

  22. Shall we replay every comment uttered in support of our faultless leader and his splendid crew?

  23. I KNOW I yam.
    I am what Iyam.

  24. A cross between Mr. Rogers and Mr Magoo.

  25. Wolcott's a good writer.

    And of course I have a soft spot for Lefties. When Righties are headed over the cliff.

  26. I remember back when One Mrs Trish was quoting Larry Johnson as a reliable source!

  27. Norman Mailer is a good writer, don't think they should put him on the parole board, however.

  28. "I remember back when One Mrs Trish was quoting Larry Johnson as a reliable source!|

    What's your problem with Larry Johnson?

  29. Just wonder why you denigrate our criticism of Ash's suicidal leftism, and Islamist Denial.

  30. Please don't defend Crazy Larry!

    What's a left wing Mr. Rogers called?

  31. "Please don't defend Crazy Larry!"

    Larry's just a thoroughly shitty military strategist. Makes for bad analysis and prognostication.

    A left wing Mr. Rogers? I really don't know.

  32. How come I respond to you, but you selectively respond to me?
    06:27:00 PM EDT remains unaddressed, for instance!

  33. You also sidestepped whether my Dumbass critique was ill-founded in that particular regard.

  34. Hey, I read everything you post. And most everything others do as well.

    I'm sometimes bad about responding.

    I'm just thinking. Selectively.

  35. "They've got their own "kool-aid."

    - cutler

    Is ash a devote of Chompsky and company? We'll have to ask."

    It wouldn't surprise me.

    The point is there's plenty of contradicting versions of kool-aid and that because one disclaims one, doesn't necessarily mean they're off the sauce, they just may not have liked that specific flavor.

  36. IOW, sometimes when you are wrong, you selectively decide not to admit it?

  37. Hey, Cutler:
    What do you have to say about that Clarke Memo?
    I never paid attention to it before.

  38. "IOW, sometimes when you are wrong, you selectively decide not to admit it?"

    No. I selectively decide to respond.

  39. "Hey, Cutler:
    What do you have to say about that Clarke Memo?
    I never paid attention to it before."

    I took a quick look over it and was planning to read it more closely later, cause I'm writing a final atm. Assuming Rice didn't simply forget, it is seems pretty damning.

    On the other hand, I've always written up both administration as unresponsive insofar as pre-911 terrorism measures is concerned. But always measured it by the fact that, aside from Clarke, Scheuer, and a few others for whom it was a specialty, most people weren't focusing on it. Myself included.

    And from the first glance at the memo, it wasn't like even these guys were suggesting measures that would have mattered. We would actually fund the Northern Alliance? That's bold.

    Isn't as if either Administration would have been able to get support to do what needed to be done without 9-11 anyway (arguably, most of it still hasn't been done - many still won't even acknowledge openly that racial profiling at airports is fucking obvious).

  40. In general, my anger at politicians is always tempered by the fact that I really expect so little of them (of all stripes) to begin with. To me it's like expecting your dog to win a game of chess.

    Not very constructive way of thinking, I know.

  41. "Worst system of government, except for all the others."

  42. I'm of the school that thinks doing anything better, such as addressing Cole, or the Afghan Training Camps, would have been a good thing.

    Think bombing the camps would have been politically viable if presented competently. Remember too, Clarke's memo references other more extensive policy papers.
    All ignored, w/Condi denying they existed.

    The worst thing is to show weakness, and let the enemy build strength and momentum which is exactly what Clinton/Bush have done.

    My pessimistic appraisal is the only thing that will save us now would be a verifiable Muzzie Nuke verifiaby smuggled across the Border detonated in the USA.
    Odds for survival would increase if it was in DC.

  43. Trish,
    You never admitted that Ash has Dumbass ideas about Moderate Muzzies, and pie in the sky, leftist views on numerous other matters.

    Or, as Cutler says, his own Kool Aide.

  44. This made my eyes water. I suspect it is how the French Army felt during Algeria.

  45. Hope I'm not putting up too much Hugh for some of you, but there are many here who don't like The New York Times, his target in this piece.

  46. I listened to the Boortz clip. What can one add?

    As has been said here many times the country has gone soft. It no longer has the will to impose will. Not that I believe we should stay on indefinitely, but my god, we haven't given Petraeous a chance to make his plan work yet. I doubt that the full "surge" has even made it to Iraq yet.

    Today I heard John Murtha on NPR bringing up Impeachment of GWB. Not that he's for it, mind you, but "we always got to be thinking about it." Michael Isikoff (Newsweek) was on Hugh Hewitt? talking about his new book "Hubris". He thinks he's so reasonable and professional but he came across as completely deranged with advanced BDS. More at another time, gotta go watch 24.

  47. For the "surge" to be "successful" the Iraqi have to reconcile. There were 27 bodies found, shot dead, in and around Baghdad.

    That was, previous to Feb. '07, the Mahdi Army technique. The decline in violence, the surge has been credited for, was the Mahdi ending it's retaliation killings. They may have started again, if these new bodies are a start of a trend.

    Without Iraqi political reconcilitation, the Surge CANNOT succeed, as General P has made clear, both in Iraq and in DC.

  48. trish wrote:

    "And of course I have a soft spot for Lefties. When Righties are headed over the cliff."

    I actually laughed out loud at that. LOL!

    On Chomsky,

    No, I'm not a disciple at worshiping at his alter. Far from it, but the old man has had a number of pertinent insights over the years. They sometimes come off sounding like a grand right wing conspiracy sits in the shadows ruling the world but under that tinfoil hat resides much truth. In no way do I believe US history represents a nation vigorously pursuing what is good for all, what is fine, what is righteous. Naw, it is much more craven then that.

    It has been an interesting trip down memory lane, this thread. There is a certain satisfaction that I take in being 'right' on some things, even though that means many suffer. It is tough when what one thinks is 'right' and history then plays out to confirm it. On the one hand you (craven egoists us all) really do want events to bear out ones prognosticatians (no time to spell check nor definitions check).
    For example, I've long claimed that GWB is poor chess player in the grand game of Foreign checkers. I've long maintained that stating "they stand up we will stand down" and other such formulations of policy place decisions beyond our control and that is a bad thing. The deaths of our best and brightest dictated by the intracies of Iraqi politics - baaaad!!!!!!

    Doug, on Islam - to state is as clearly as I can -- I abhor human actions based upon interpretations of ancient texts. I abhor the righteousness that comes from certitude whether it be Islamist or Evangelical Christian. My eyes glaze upon hearing citations of ancient text as justification. I have no tolerance for that shit. On the other hand, because some folk believe, and base their behavior upon such ancient texts does not automatically make all they do bad, all they invalid. And, not all believers of a given doctrine believe nor behave the same. There are about 1.2 billion musilims kicking about our world. I even know some of them. I have neighbors right across the street who are *gasp* muslim. The Grandma, since 911, and only since, has taken to wearing a head scarf. There is a teenager living there and like all teenagers he seems to be experiencing angst, has trouble walking comfortably (in his baggy jeans- do you remember your teen years and wondering wear to put your hands when walking amongst teenage girls?). Anyway, the partying pasty white guys two doors down littering the street with their cig butts and party vomit cause me more grief then the muslims.

    oooops, gotta fly, the kids want me to play a computer game before bedtime.

  49. Petraeus also said the Damascus Airport is a choke point, but of course far be it for us to ever again interfere with enemy sanctuaries responsible for killing our troops.

    Not part of New Age "Warfare"/Politics.

  50. Wow, this thread's apex is probably Ash talking about himself. What a saga, Old Boy!

  51. The old Christian Muslim equivalence again.
    (Jews being even worse, of course)
    Look at the figures in my Diana West Post, above Ash:
    Or are you seriously going to equate the effect of Sharia Law on Women, Fags, and people in general w/Jerry Falwell?

    Seems a simple question, I await your response with baited breath.

  52. Hu,
    You related to Hugh Grant?

  53. Ash has a narrative to impose on reality, Doug. He cannot be bothered with policy anymore. The saga of being a leftist in the age of Evangelical Christians and Syriana Muslims.

    Oh well, off to Turkistan for me. I've got one of those armored bulldozers painted Mao-red know...

  54. Police Arrest, Question Actor Hugh Grant Following Attack on Paparazzi -
    Police in London arrested and questioned Hugh Grant, after a photographer claimed the actor attacked him with a tub of baked beans. ...

    Hugh is one dangerous dude.
    But of course, people don't kill people, baked beans do.

  55. Why couldn't we have a whole battalion of D-9's like that guy welded up and then proceeded to mow down half the town?

  56. Did he attack with just the beans or the tub?

    You have to understand British culture to understand the profound humiliation a shower of baked beans produces - like once proud cockney snowmen shamefully melted beneath projectile coffee, the cameraman was but a puddle of vest, satchel and tripod, as far as ego goes

  57. Apparently the NYPD may have played a small role in the apprehension of these Jihadis. I comment on it briefly over at my "Blog"

  58. Cheat Sheet for Rosie:

    Engineers estimate Sunday’s flames reached close to 3,000 degrees. Here’s a breakdown of heat’s effects.

    Molten lava: 3,140°

    Iron melts: 2,797°

    Steel melts: 2,750°

    Gold melts: 1,947°

    Silver melts: 1,763°

    Steel loses half its rigidity: 1,000°

    Lead melts: 622°

    Water boils: 212°

    Source: "Comparisons" by the Diagram Group and Chronicle research

  59. Paki's have no doubt been watching the Hugh Grant story with interest. Analysts expect suicide bombings laced with baked beans; the propaganda of bawling embarassed brits covered head to toe in legumes and pork fat would be broadcast all over the globe.

  60. Hu,
    I think it was in N or S Dakota.
    Sometime around 9-11, I think, give or take a year.

  61. Doug,

    Sharia law sucks, I'm a firm believer in womens right to equality - hey, that even includes a womens right over her body.

    There are lot of baaaaad muslims out there itching to impose their version of morality on us all. They should be opposed.

    Lets talk abortion here dude...are you opinions grounded in your religion? Are you trying to impose your views on others? Do women's rights fall below your righteous views of the rights of the unborn? yep!! And you know what, you are entitled to your opinions but if you should start sniping at physicians performing abortions then you too should be opposed.

  62. Hu, for what it is worth, I like you. I hope you stick around.


    He brought up ABORTION! You can't make this S&(* up! HhAHAHHAHAHAHAHH

    Quick, Liberal, to the Abortion debate!

  64. Hey, ho, Men's abortion rights are a go.

    False dichotomy.

  65. Ash when you are negotiating the price of a car, have you found a way to use the abortion debate for leverage?

  66. Stout, Congrats on your new blog.

    Feel free to shamelessly flog it here anytime. We do not mind at all.

    Just keep paying your tab on time.

  67. Marvin was a Christian Upset w/Abortion Doctors, as I recall.
    Damn few doctors left in that little town, when Marvin was finished.
    ...and expired.

  68. Colorado, I guess.
    Important thing is, he took out them doctors.

  69. Deuce,

    Thanks much. You are a Gentleman and a gracious host.

  70. "John Bauldree, a friend of Marvin's, said that Heemeyer was a fun-loving guy who liked to play hard and work hard. Ken Heemeyer said his brother Marvin "would bend over backwards for anyone."

    Then he watched Falwell on the Tee Vee, and became a murdering (Christian) Monster.

  71. Hey, all the arguments that apply to Mumia and Rodney King can help us elevate Marvin to the heroic status he deserves.

  72. Watching the news and the Mexis are up in arms about FBI busting a fraudulent document ring in Chicago. They are having a rally. Time to start drinking.

  73. Stout,
    You handing out free Guiness for readers of the first post?
    Congrats, whether yes, or no.
    (generous guy that I am)

  74. "Sometimes reasonable men must do unreasonable things." - Marvin H.

    Wonder if Ash will let me get by w/that?

  75. I forgot about the battle of the Leviathans:

    "However, the sheriff's department argues that the fact nobody got hurt was due more to luck than intent.

    They asserted Heemeyer fired many bullets from his semi-automatic rifle at Cody Docheff when Docheff tried to stop the assault on his concrete batch plant by using a front-end loader."

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  77. hmmmm, lets see Hu, I guess you have a problem with Islamists imposing their righteous religious views upon you, ya?? How about others, can we impose our righteous religious views upon you as well? Is it not the specific views and their imposition that is the issue not the genesis of the idea? Or is that a too difficult idea for you to grasp?

  78. Stout,
    You handing out free Guiness for readers of the first post?

    Bar Keep, a round of Guiness for everyone, on me.

    I don't really think I'll be doing much blogging. I just couldn't resist doing the obvious thing with Deuce's great composite of the, shall we say, fruit of Mohammed - namely ridiculing 'random searches' when we have a good idea as to what most of the actors will look like. I'm laughing to keep from crying. PC is a piss poor way to fight the Wahabbis.

  79. Sunni Bloc Threatens to Pull Ministers From Cabinet
    The Iraqi Consensus Front said Iraq's government had failed to deal with Sunni concerns.

  80. What is it about stoning and beheading that escapes your grasp, Ash?

    'Course there's hanging available also:
    I'll always remember that pic of the two YOUNG Gay boys, in shrouds, awaiting their fate.

  81. Ash,
    Doug, on Islam - to state is as clearly as I can -- I abhor human actions based upon interpretations of ancient texts. I abhor the righteousness that comes from certitude whether it be Islamist or Evangelical Christian. My eyes glaze upon hearing citations of ancient text as justification. I have no tolerance for that shit.

    This leaves open the obvious question of when in the historical continuum of mankind creates for you a moment where interpretation of the human condition begins?

    Is there a particular period or event that transcends for you all others in understanding mankind?

    Are you an agnostic theist? I just throw that one out but the floor is yours sir.

  82. God Hates Catholics:
    "God built me for this job," Heemeyer said in the first recording made on April 13, 2004. He even said it was God's plan that he not be married or have family so that he could be in a position to carry out such an attack. "I think God will bless me to get the machine done, to drive it, to do the stuff that I have to do" he said. "God blessed me in advance for the task that I am about to undertake. It is my duty. God has asked me to do this. It's a cross that I am going to carry and I'm carrying it in God's name," he said.

    Heemeyer's actions were apparently a political statement. In the audio tapes, he states "Because of your anger, because of your malice, because of your hate, you would not work with me. I am going to sacrifice my life, my miserable future that you gave me, to show you that what you did is wrong".[6]

    Investigators later found Heemeyer's handwritten list of targets. It was not just a list of buildings and businesses, police say. His list also contained the names of at least 10 individuals and a local Catholic Church.

  83. Every Evangelical Church is literally a breeding ground for Marvin Heemeyers, across the vast and fruited plains.
    We're Doomed.

  84. "There is a certain satisfaction that I take in being 'right' on some things, even though that means many suffer."

    It wasn't the suffering that got to me. It was the simple realization that we weren't going to win in Iraq. THAT got to me. Just before the purple finger elections.

    Now Iraq sucks the oxygen out of every effort we might make. Foreign policy debates dismally rotate around it. It's long past time we were done with it - we can make semi-convincing noises about the suffering.

    We cannot undo the bad idea we had to begin with. Myself included.

  85. Oh I can dig it, Ash. No imposition of beliefs on anyone. No violence of knowledge hurting our brains; just a steady stream of bureaucrat-vetted bullshit that you can talk about to your friends to sound cool.

    Thing is, evangelicals and leftists hold eachother at bay; neither will ever be dominant, although each foresees a dark dye cast in their enemy's inevitable rise, beginning a new age of supermarket abortions or, well, something about missionary sex or whatever it is that evangelicals are about that so pisses off leftists.

    But what is the counter to Islamists? You? Your cuddly beliefs in "Chillaxin" as policy? Are you promising you'll hate Islamists just how you hate Evangelicals? Cuz let me tell ya, the Islamists are playing for keeps. Evangelicals are all about the paper and the occasional righteous armored bulldozer.

    In truth, Marvin's only mistake was not painting it white and attaching some Jackhammers to blare "Our God is an Awesome God"

  86. Which gives me an idea...

    I must consult with my generals! BRB!

  87. An anguished mother can't understand why her daughter has abandoned family and friends for the confines of a local evangelical church. Loved ones say 19-year-old Sharona Dagani isn't the same person since becoming involved with the church.

    It's tough to tell the story since the central figure in the whole thing is not available to the I-Team. What's more, the church that is now the center of Sharona Dagani's life won't talk on camera.

    What we know is that a tug of war is under way concerning a young woman and a nearly $2 million trust fund.

    Saving her Daughter

  88. Yeah, a Battalion of them blaring "Pimp my Ride" is exactly where our war efforts should be headed.

  89. A 25-year-old Marine has died after a bomb struck his amphibious vehicle in Iraq.

    Defense Department officials say Corporal Christopher Degiovine died Thursday in Al Anbar province. He grew up in Vermont, but the military listed his address as Lone Tree, Colorado.

    He was assigned to the 2nd Assault Amphibian Battalion, 2nd Marine Division, II Marine Expeditionary Force, based at Camp Lejeune, North Carolina.

    Killed in Iraq

  90. Petraeus also said the Damascus Airport is a choke point, but of course far be it for us to ever again interfere with enemy sanctuaries responsible for killing our troops.

    Not part of New Age "Warfare"/Politics.


    The Pentagon has ditched the "Long War" - not because of the 'long', but because of the 'war.

    So here we are, headed forward into the Long MOOTW.

    Get used to it.

  91. From the original Iraq/Afghanistan commander Tommy Franks to General Richard Myers, the former Joint Chiefs chairman who routinely seconded former d efense s ecretary Donald Rumsfeld's optimistic assertions, generals have provided cover for policies that weren't necessarily theirs.

    And later reports have shown that while they were standing by their civilian bosses, others in the military had deep reservations about those policies, but kept quiet.

    So too did many in the CIA, who were privately shocked by Tenet's endorsement of Bush's case for war. "In retrospect I shouldn't have talked to the New York Times reporter. . . . By making public comments in the middle of a contentious political debate, I gave the impression that I was becoming a partisan player," Tenet concedes in the new memoir.

    Compromising Independence

  92. I can't tell if that's news or opinion, even when I look at the original source. Says collumnist, but presented as news.

  93. I already forgot what MOOTW is.

  94. At hu's link:
    "I took the fact that i am a mortician and went a step higher.

    To get this done the right way there was only one person with whom I would trust to do this task, that person was Brian Wirtel of Sound Idea's.

    We used a couple of my conections and were able to get real bones from a forensics lab that had closed in Great Britian. Brian fiberglassed over the bones and another good friend of mine (John Myer) who ownes Clean Cut Creations also in ST. Louis painted the bones with bone colored paint then added a little dirt color to them to give you the effect that they have aged.
    All speakers in the system are MTX Thunder series as well as the amps."

  95. Google is your friend.

    Nite, Doug.

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