“Soft despotism is a term coined by Alexis de Tocqueville describing the state into which a country overrun by "a network of small complicated rules" might degrade. Soft despotism is different from despotism (also called 'hard despotism') in the sense that it is not obvious to the people."

Friday, April 20, 2007

US Sunnis "Dominated by Extremists"

Stephen Schwartz, the Executive Director of the Center for Islamic Pluralism, writing at Tech Central Station about his organizaton's efforts to combat Islamists:
But we also must deal with serious challenges inside the Western Muslim community. First, U.S. and UK Sunni Muslims are completely dominated by extremists - Saudi-backed Wahhabis in the first case and Pakistani-controlled jihadists in the second. Canada, which I recently visited for a series of lectures, represents an important exception to this pattern, as discussed here.
His words; "US and UK Sunni Muslims are completely dominated by extremists."

So says a moderate Muslim who ought to know.

I wonder what efforts are being made by the FBI. Most of the public has no idea what is being preached in the Mosques of America and are dependant on the FBI as the front line of defense against terror in this country, homegrown, al-Qaeda affiliate or otherwise. Regardless, there will be political hell to pay when terror breaks out in the United States. It will be very hard for any politician to deliver the RoP mantra while the radical Imams are preaching otherwise.

Also interesting in the Schwartz piece is this:

Third, while a great number of Shia Muslims in the U.S. and Canada, with their clerics and mosques, are less orthodox in their attitudes, and sympathize with CIP against Saudi-backed Sunni terror, they are often tainted by an attraction to Iran and Hezbollah, which makes it impossible for us to sustain a cooperative effort with them. We maintain formal relations with Iraqi Shia leaders out of concern for the situation in their country, where U.S.-led coalition troops are present in the front lines for freedom. If we enlisted all the Shias on this side of the Atlantic who express warmth toward us, CIP might quickly become one of the largest Muslim organizations in North America. But before such a development can take place, Hezbollah must be curbed in Lebanon and Ahmadinejad removed from power in Teheran - the latter as a first step toward complete dismantling of the Iranian clerical regime.

If Hezbollah must be "curbed" and Ahmadinejad removed from power first, I guess it will be quite some time before the moderate CIP becomes one of the "largest Muslim organizations in North America." In the meantime, what are the implications of the continued "extremist domination?"


  1. Hugh, first comment thinks we best be concentrating on Iran, and now.

  2. The White House web site has these quotes of Mr Bush's to explain to the American people and the world at large just how the US operates, vis a vie Islam. Check it out for yourselves. He leaves no wiggle room for equivication.

    We gotta follow his lead, or be called unpatriotic leftists, or is it brown shirted fascist vigilantes? Well, one or the other, matters little, really, the label applied.
    Just have to support the Team.

    In the President’s Words: Respecting Islam

    The United States is a nation dedicated to religious tolerance and freedom, and President Bush has acted to ensure that the world's Muslims know that America appreciates and celebrates the traditions of Islam.

    "Here in the United States our Muslim citizens are making many contributions in business, science and law, medicine and education, and in other fields. Muslim members of our Armed Forces and of my administration are serving their fellow Americans with distinction, upholding our nation's ideals of liberty and justice in a world at peace."
    Remarks by the President on Eid Al-Fitr
    The Islamic Center of Washington, D.C.
    December 5, 2002

    "Over the past month, Muslims have fasted, taking no food or water during daylight hours, in order to refocus their minds on faith and redirect their hearts to charity. Muslims worldwide have stretched out a hand of mercy to those in need. Charity tables at which the poor can break their fast line the streets of cities and towns. And gifts of food and clothing and money are distributed to ensure that all share in God's abundance. Muslims often invite members of other families to their evening iftar meals, demonstrating a spirit of tolerance."
    Remarks by the President on Eid Al-Fitr
    The Islamic Center of Washington, D.C.
    December 5, 2002

    "America treasures the relationship we have with our many Muslim friends, and we respect the vibrant faith of Islam which inspires countless individuals to lead lives of honesty, integrity, and morality. This year, may Eid also be a time in which we recognize the values of progress, pluralism, and acceptance that bind us together as a Nation and a global community. By working together to advance mutual understanding, we point the way to a brighter future for all."
    Presidential Message Eid al-Fitr
    December 5, 2002

    "Islam brings hope and comfort to millions of people in my country, and to more than a billion people worldwide. Ramadan is also an occasion to remember that Islam gave birth to a rich civilization of learning that has benefited mankind."
    President's Eid al-Fitr Greeting to Muslims around the World
    December 4, 2002

    "Ours is a war not against a religion, not against the Muslim faith. But ours is a war against individuals who absolutely hate what America stands for, and hate the freedom of the Czech Republic. And therefore, we must work together to defend ourselves. And by remaining strong and united and tough, we'll prevail."
    Press Conference by President Bush and President Havel of Czech Republic
    Prague Castle, Prague, Czech Republic
    November 20, 2002

    "Some of the comments that have been uttered about Islam do not reflect the sentiments of my government or the sentiments of most Americans. Islam, as practiced by the vast majority of people, is a peaceful religion, a religion that respects others. Ours is a country based upon tolerance and we welcome people of all faiths in America."
    Remarks by President George W. Bush in a statement to reporters during a meeting with U.N. Secretary General Kofi Annan
    The Oval Office, Washington, DC
    November 13, 2002

    "We see in Islam a religion that traces its origins back to God's call on Abraham. We share your belief in God's justice, and your insistence on man's moral responsibility. We thank the many Muslim nations who stand with us against terror. Nations that are often victims of terror, themselves."
    President Hosts Iftaar Dinner
    Remarks by the President at Iftaar Dinner
    State Dining Room

    "Islam is a vibrant faith. Millions of our fellow citizens are Muslim. We respect the faith. We honor its traditions. Our enemy does not. Our enemy doesn't follow the great traditions of Islam. They've hijacked a great religion."
    Remarks by President George W. Bush on U.S. Humanitarian Aid to Afghanistan
    Presidential Hall, Dwight David Eisenhower Executive Office Building, Washington, D.C.
    October 11, 2002

    "Islam is a faith that brings comfort to people. It inspires them to lead lives based on honesty, and justice, and compassion."
    Remarks by President George W. Bush on U.S. Humanitarian Aid to Afghanistan
    Presidential Hall, Dwight David Eisenhower Executive Office Building, Washington, D.C.
    October 11, 2002

    "All Americans must recognize that the face of terror is not the true faith -- face of Islam. Islam is a faith that brings comfort to a billion people around the world. It's a faith that has made brothers and sisters of every race. It's a faith based upon love, not hate."
    President George W. Bush Holds Roundtable with Arab and Muslim-American Leaders
    Afghanistan Embassy, Washington, D.C.
    September 10, 2002

    "The Islam that we know is a faith devoted to the worship of one God, as revealed through The Holy Qur'an. It teaches the value and the importance of charity, mercy, and peace."
    President George W. Bush's Message for Ramadan
    November 15, 2001

    "This new enemy seeks to destroy our freedom and impose its views. We value life; the terrorists ruthlessly destroy it. We value education; the terrorists do not believe women should be educated or should have health care, or should leave their homes. We value the right to speak our minds; for the terrorists, free expression can be grounds for execution. We respect people of all faiths and welcome the free practice of religion; our enemy wants to dictate how to think and how to worship even to their fellow Muslims."
    President George W. Bush Addresses the Nation
    World Congress Center, Atlanta, Georgia
    November 8, 2001

    "All of us here today understand this: We do not fight Islam, we fight against evil."
    Remarks by President George W. Bush to the Warsaw Conference on Combating Terrorism
    November 6, 2001

    "I have assured His Majesty that our war is against evil, not against Islam. There are thousands of Muslims who proudly call themselves Americans, and they know what I know -- that the Muslim faith is based upon peace and love and compassion. The exact opposite of the teachings of the al Qaeda organization, which is based upon evil and hate and destruction."
    Remarks by President George W. Bush and His Majesty King Abdullah of Jordan
    The Oval Office, Washington, D.C.
    September 28, 2001

    "Americans understand we fight not a religion; ours is not a campaign against the Muslim faith. Ours is a campaign against evil."
    President George W. Bush Remarks by the President to Airline Employees
    O'Hare International Airport, Chicago, Illinois
    September 27, 2001

    "The terrorists are traitors to their own faith, trying, in effect, to hijack Islam itself. The enemy of America is not our many Muslim friends; it is not our many Arab friends. Our enemy is a radical network of terrorists, and every government that supports them."

    President George W. Bush's Address to a Joint Session of Congress and the American People
    United States Capitol, Washington, D.C.
    September 20, 2001

    "I've made it clear, Madam President, that the war against terrorism is not a war against Muslims, nor is it a war against Arabs. It's a war against evil people who conduct crimes against innocent people."
    Remarks by President George W. Bush and President Megawati of Indonesia
    The Oval Office, Washington, D.C.
    September 19, 2001

    "The face of terror is not the true faith of Islam"

  3. The Preisdent should tell all that to the Iraqi Christians, Rat. They'd probably be happy to know it.

  4. Who? the President?

    Oh yeah! He's that guy who's real friendly with King Abdullah and his Wahhabist pals!

  5. DR is right. Bush has gone to his prayer mat once too often in hopes of religioning away the Islamic bogeyman. It ain't gonna happen, he's in deep denial and we're all gonna get f*ucked up one day...Well not all of us. I have enough guns and ammo to hold off a division.

    If you read the news out of Israel today their top generals are in major concern mode over the buildup on their nothern and southern borders Syrian buildup,Israel concerned,very concerned

    Could Nancy Pelosi's visit been this decades April Glaspie's "sign" to Saddam to invade Kuwait? instead this time given to Syrian's Assad?

  6. More on Israel

    MI chief: Al-Qaida militants sent to Lebanon to attack UNIFIL.

    Israeli General Talks

    Israel's Next War
    Mad dog Arabs

  7. I saw the same articles including this one.

    Israel Threatened in North, South

    by Hillel Fendel

    ( Brig.-Gen. (ret.) Tzvika Fogel, in the clearest warning yet of his long-running series of such warnings, says that though Israel chooses to ignore it, war can be expected in Gaza by this summer - and possibly within a month.

    Fogel, a former chief of staff for the Southern Command, spoke this morning on Channel Ten television. He warned of two scenarios. One is that Israel will "continue its ostrich-like stance" until military/terrorist forces in Gaza surprise-attack Israel. A second alternative, if this does not happen by the summer, is that Israel will have no choice but to begin a full-scale offensive against the increasingly-strengthened Hamas-Fatah military capacity.

    Gen. Fogel noted, as he and others have done many times in the past, the wide-scale smuggling network into Gaza that has been developed since Israel quit Gaza during the Disengagement in 2005. "During this period, the Palestinians have brought in anything they wanted through the tunnels they dug," he said, "and Hamas has built up its army in this time in preparation for the conflict with Israel."
    Yet Israel does nothing, and would rather deal with prisoner exchanges and reinforcing communities

    The repeated PA declarations of insistence on the full "right of return" for millions of Arabs to Israel, together with PA war readiness, were also cited by Fogel as indications that war appears close.

    He had strong criticism of official Israel: "In the face of this Palestinian threat, Israel chooses to reinforce [its buildings], to close its eyes and hide it head in the sand... Ever since the ceasefire with Abu Mazen went into effect some four months ago, about 200 Kassam rockets have been fired from Gaza - almost two a day. Yet Israel does nothing, and would rather deal with prisoner exchanges and reinforcing communities."

    Hizbullah, Too
    On Israel's northern border, a high-ranking Hizbullah official says there is a possibility of war with Israel this summer. Hizbullah's Deputy Secretary-General Naim Kassam told The Guardian of London that the U.S. is "pushing Israel towards a violent clash."

  8. Bill Roggio is in Israel, now, so expect some news in the coming days from that front. He says he is busier than he expected.

    It is interesting that while the rest of the world is beset by grand conspiracies, the US remains home to the "Lone Gunman" usually classified as "insane".

    Whatever happened to the story of the Salt Lake City mall shooter? No follow up stories, like Colubine had, to tell US of the demons in the shooters head. Just fell off the earth, that story.

    Between the years of 1992 and 1996, a gang of white separatists who called themselves the Aryan Republican Army robbed banks throughout the Midwest and stole nearly $500,000 before being caught. Rumors have persisted that the ARA was tied to McVeigh.

    “The Midwest bank robbers of course are somebody that should be looked at. Terrorists historically finance their operations through bank robbery, armored car robbery,” Coulson said. “Coincidences just aren't coincidences, there's some reason for it.”

    Peter Langan, one of the gang’s leaders who is serving a life sentence for his role in the robberies, told FOX News in an exclusive interview that some of the Midwest bank robbers were involved in the Oklahoma City bombing.

    “Yes I do [believe members of the Aryan Republican Army were involved],” Langan said. “No doubt whatsoever.”

    McVeigh's sister, Jennifer, in her own sworn deposition said: "My brother remarked that the money he had in his possession represented his share of the bank robbery proceeds."
    Repeated calls were made from Terry Nichols' home to a place called Star Glad Lumber in the Philippines.

    “Star Glad Lumber is operated by a man whose brother and cousin were both notorious terrorists, splinter groups of the Abu Sayyaf terror group in the Philippines,” according to Johnston, the attorney.

    Nichols also repeatedly called a boarding house in Cebu City, an establishment that has been linked to 1993 World Trade Center bombing mastermind Ramzi Yousef (search). The same kind of ANFO fertilizer fuel bomb was used in New York and in Oklahoma City.

    Finally, in McVeigh's trial the prosecution alleged that the bombing was financed by a robbery of an Arkansas gun dealer named Roger Moore. But Langan doesn't agree.

    "Moore had himself robbed ... so he could put firearms in the black market without having liability himself," Langan said.

    Asked if he believed Moore was not a victim, but part of the scam, Langan told FOX News: "Correct."

    FOX News' Rita Cosby, Clay Rawson and Peter Russo contributed to this report.

  9. DR, RE: Salt Lake City

    I dont think LDS tolerates bad press these days, particularly after the Eliz Smart deal. They probably ran MSM out of town...

    btw, re: VT shooting, there's a guy on Headline News explaining the difference between a .45 and 9mm...He says one is bigger than the other!

  10. BBC said that the shooter had a 9mm and a 22mm. A 22mm? hmmm.

  11. No wonder those ground squirrels were disintigrating. I've been shooting a 22mm all these years.