COLLECTIVE MADNESS


“Soft despotism is a term coined by Alexis de Tocqueville describing the state into which a country overrun by "a network of small complicated rules" might degrade. Soft despotism is different from despotism (also called 'hard despotism') in the sense that it is not obvious to the people."

Saturday, August 28, 2010

US Media Portrays America as Racist?



HAT TIP: Desert Rat


Why can't Barack Obama tell the world about American tolerance?

The controversy over the 'Ground Zero mosque' has portrayed the United States as a land of bigots. Toby Harnden wonders why the US President has helped fuel this myth.

Toby Harnden's American Way Telegraph
Published: 2:00PM BST 28 Aug 2010

It took a Manhattan taxi driver called Ahmed Sharif to speak out for America, which is being vilified as bigoted and Islamophobic because of the controversy generated by opposition to the so-called "Ground Zero mosque".
The United States was his dream country, he enthused, and he loved New York City. "I feel like I belong here. This is the city actually [for] all colours, races, religion, everyone. We live here side by side peacefully."

Which was a pretty noble sentiment coming from a man whose throat had been slashed by a drunken, deranged passenger who had inquired whether he was a Muslim before pulling out a knife and shouting "Peace be upon you" in Arabic.

As the whole world knows, there is a furore raging over the proposed building of a 15-storey Islamic community centre, containing a mosque, two blocks from Ground Zero, site of the 9/11 terrorist attacks by al-Qaeda.
America's liberal elites have been falling over themselves to denounce their country and fellow citizens as anti-Muslim xenophobes who don't understand that it was not all followers of Islam who were responsible for the atrocities of 2001.

Certainly, some Americans opposed to what is now known as the Park51centre (its previous name of Cordoba centre, a reference to a mosque built in Spain on the site of a Christian church to symbolise a Muslim victory, did not quite strike the right public relations note) are motivated by bigotry.

But it was the centre's Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf himself who linked its purpose to its proximity to the Ground Zero site. It is entirely valid to question whether this is the right approach to building interfaith bridges.

Rauf, who once described the US policies as "an accessory to the crime" of 9/11, stated in Bahrain last week that all the "attention is a sign of the success of our efforts" – an utterance that shows he is stupid, mischievous or worse.
Even if the aim of building the centre there was to encourage religious understanding, that is clearly no longer a possible outcome. So what kind of success was Rauf referring to?

To want to debate such matters, however, is judged as beyond the pale. Mayor Michael Bloomberg of New York tried to shut down discussion by saying that opponents of Rauf's initiative "ought to be ashamed of themselves". Presumably, that includes Bangladeshi-born Sharif, who doesn't support the Park51 centre.

President Barack Obama said that the US constitution guarantees religious freedom (which no one disputes). The American mainstream media and commentariat has stridently and almost uniformly championed Rauf's cause. In doing so, they've happily trashed their fellow Americans, stating they're motivated only by intolerance.

In fact, most evidence points to the US being one of the most tolerant countries in the world. A poll from you won't see cited much because it doesn't fit the prevailing narrative was recently conducted by the Public Religion Research Institute.

It found that 76 per cent of Americans would support Muslims in their community building an Islamic centre or mosque provided they followed the same rules and regulations required of other religious groups. But the 9/11 site is seen as different. After the 9/11 attacks there was no anti-Muslim backlash in the US.

Obama's ill-judged intervention, and the shrill outrage of his allies in the intelligentsia, has damaged America's standing in the world by fuelling anti-American stereotypes.

Aides to General David Petraeus, commanding troops in Afghanistan, say he is livid about the portrayal of the US as a hotbed of anti-Muslim bigotry and fears it may undermine the war effort, which is based on partnership with an Islamic regime.

Many Americans are incensed by the way that legitimate protest and questioning of Obama's policies is routinely branded as racist or ignorant. They are tired of being told what to think and when to think it.

During the 2008 campaign, for instance, you were a bigot if you mentioned Obama's middle name or his Muslim background. Yet once he was elected, he went to Ankara and Cairo to proclaim that his full name was "Barack Hussein Obama".

Ahmed Sharif, a victim of real anti-Muslim bigotry, stated that the attack on him was an aberration and that America is a land of tolerance and opportunity. What a shame that Obama, despite his much-vaunted gift with words, appears unable to speak about such things with similar eloquence.


76 comments:

  1. The developer won't say where he's getting the money, which means it could come from Osama bin Laden for all we know.

    It's scheduled to open on the 10th anniversary of 9-11.

    It's named after part of Spain that the Muslims claim is in the Dar-al-Islam forever.

    If you want the Left to oppose the Ground Zero Mosque, start a rumor that Glenn Beck is funding it.

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  2. I read Al Sharpton's counter rally drew 3,000.

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  3. Aides to General David Petraeus, commanding troops in Afghanistan, say he is livid about the portrayal of the US as a hotbed of anti-Muslim bigotry and fears it may undermine the war effort, which is based on partnership with an Islamic regime.

    It goes back, once again, to the misconceived concept of there being a "War with Islam" that the US is engaged in.

    It is obvious to anyone that reads the EB that there are more than few folks in the United States that believe there is such a war going on.

    It is also obvious that to promote and advocate that position is a detriment to US foreign policy. As General P is reported to believe.
    The current US foreign policy was formulated by Republicans and is being carried out by Democrats, today. It is the bi-partisan Federal policy that there is no "War with Islam". That Islam, as a religion or belief system, had nothing to do with the attacks of 11SEP01.
    Those attacks were carried out by a criminal element, renegades.
    So the official story goes.

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  4. Exploiting the Mosque Controversy

    Abraham H. Foxman

    National Director of the Anti-Defamation League


    Most distressing is the surfacing among certain public figures of outrageous comments about Islam, comments which run counter to everything America is about.

    One such notable figure is Franklin Graham, the successor to his father Billy Graham's ministry. In his criticism of the mosque, he launches an all-out assault against Islam itself.

    On August 18, the Rev. Graham told Time magazine: "President Bush and President Obama made great mistakes when they said Islam is a peaceful religion. It is not. There is no evidence in its history. It's a religion of hatred. It's a religion of war."

    And more: "The goal of Islam is world domination. That's the goal. ... They will claim now that the World Trade Center property and everything within that area is now Islamic land...."

    ...

    This kind of bigotry and stereotyping against a great world religion is contrary to everything that America stands for.

    Yet in the current political climate, and in the ongoing debate over the proposed Islamic cultural center two blocks north of Ground Zero, an intensified level of anti-Muslim bigotry has surfaced in a variety of public forums. The Rev. Graham's remarks just scratch the surface of a deeply entrenched problem in our society of anti-Muslim scapegoating.

    Several groups with extreme anti-Muslim agendas have launched public campaigns that have both sheltered and fueled this bigotry. One Florida-based group, for example, has plans to observe an "International Burn a Koran Day" on the anniversary of the September 11 attacks. The campaign is the latest tactic employed by an organization led by Pastor Terry Jones, author of the book Islam is the Devil.
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    What's more, there have been repeated instances where mosques around the country have become targets of anti-Muslim protests, hateful invective, stereotyping, and worse. We have counted more than a dozen instances in recent months where mosques have been targeted for protests and violence. On May 10, for example, a pipe bomb exploded at an Islamic center in Jacksonville, Florida. In July, a fire at the Islamic Center of Marietta, Georgia, was blamed on arsonists. Other mosques have weathered protests where worshippers were greeted with messages that "Jesus Hates Muslims" and "Islam is a Lie."

    We hope that all Americans, whatever their legitimate differences of opinion on the wisdom of building a mosque abutting Ground Zero, will reject this demonization of Islam.

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  5. Why does the National Director of the Anti-Defamation League believe that the portrayal of of those standing against the construction of that community center as racist, biased against Islam and Muslims, is accurate, if it is not?

    Is he wrong when he says

    an intensified level of anti-Muslim bigotry has surfaced in a variety of public forums.

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  6. DR,

    Sorry to have ignored you all day, Mine Herr.

    Hey, hows bout you sticking with DR. While you suck at that, your sock puppets, like whit, are real flushers.

    By the way, Whit, I'm off to bed; it's now safe to come out.

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  7. It is also obvious that to promote and advocate that position is a detriment to US foreign policy...


    It's also obvious that you have us confused with people who really give a shit rat.


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  8. How Park51 plays in Taiwan

    Even if you cannot speak Taiwanese, like me, the graphics are clear enough to understand.

    And those Taiwanese folk, they're supposed to be our friends.

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  9. all hat n no cattle, what are u rambling about now

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  10. how's that hope and change bro?

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  11. That is an interesting video on many counts. I placed it top-side.

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  12. About what I expect, j.

    No hope, no change.

    We've gotten more of the same, as I said we would from the get go.

    TARP has continued, bi-partisan.
    The War in Iraq, right on the Bush/Petraeus scheduled plan.

    Keynesian Federal policies have continued, unabated.

    The stock market has recovered, the real estate market has not.

    Jobs that were shipped overseas during both the Clinton and Bush tenures remain there.

    The US remains addicted to oil.

    Politicians remain addicted to Wahhabi money.

    You expected real change?

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  13. The border policies have improved, since Obama has taken charge.

    More National Guard on the frontier, more Border Patrolmen hired and more arrests of illegals across the country by the Federals.

    Not much of an improvement, but some.

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  14. To anyone that wanders on to this thread...

    "Rat" is a self confessed murderer. A jew hating, Israel hating, Zionist hating black hearted asshole.

    Please ignore any and all of his posts as he has an agenda and he will lie, cheat and misdirect any and all words towards his evil ways.

    We do not censure ass wipes at the EB, but that doesnt mean we dont point a finger at human scum that stop by and pollute it..

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  15. Again, the Story of "o" is filled with fiction. Again he does not post the date and time of this alleged "confession".
    Because there is none, never was.

    Like those other Europeons that committed genocide, in the 20th century, he attempts to tell the "big lie". Thinking if he tells it often enough, folks will come to believe it.

    While the truth of the Israeli Holocaust, the Slaughter of Innocents goes unchallenged, except to deny the humanity of the Israeli's victims.
    All 1.5 million of them.

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  16. The current Story of "o" is that a Jew in the womb is not even a human.

    Unbelievable bigotry, seems to me.

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  17. "Out of the mouth of Mel"

    My great adventure with my best friend and partner in crime at six flags hurricane harbor Water Park was amazing. We couldn't have asked for the most perfect day of nothing but blue skies and a day full of laughter. I did learn one thing, Michele, is not only a partner but she is the instigator and as I follow suit it's always my mouth that gets me into trouble.

    As we lay across the double sided raft to float around the lazy river we came up to a life guard with a sign posted next to his stand. It read "Sha lo Water"

    Michele noticed the missing letters and of course had to make it aware to the life guard that there were letters missing. The guard looked at the sign and turned to us and jokingly said, "Isn't that the way you spell it?"

    So, I looked to see if there was anyone around (I swear) before I blurted out, "I guess they had to spell it that way for all the foreigners here that don't understand English."

    Wait are you ready for the kicker? He turned to us and shouted something in a different language.

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  18. desert rat said...
    The current Story of "o" is that a Jew in the womb is not even a human.

    Unbelievable bigotry, seems to me.
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    More distortion and lies...

    But one cannot discuss anything with you that concerns Israel, Jews or Zionism as you are a blackhearted shithead...

    You do not warrant the exchange of ideas for any of those topics.

    Please do us all a favor?

    Put a condom over your head.....

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  19. And not 30 feet around the corner I had to jump off my float to save a drowning mother because her son thought it was a good idea to jump off without warning her and flipped the float over. She went under and couldn't catch her breath. That happened in front of the next life guard who sat there and watched the whole thing without even a flinch.

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  20. The salient political fact of our day: The One turned out to be a zero.

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  22. Good job Mel.


    Where you the only one around?


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  23. The Israeli have killed 1.5 million babies, and the Story of "o" still wants me to be the lead character.

    Sweet.

    1.5 million Jews, killed by Israelis and I am presented as the problem that confronts Judaism. Not the denial of the humanity of their progeny.

    Fear and self-loathing, that is all to evident as the theme of the Story of "o".

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  24. Of course I was what kind of person do you think I am?

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  25. If I do not warrant a response, another chapter in the Story of "o", then write me out of your script.

    As long as you do not do so, I'll be the star. No problem for me, playing that role.

    I'll defend the humanity of those 1.5 million Jews that the Israeli have slaughtered on their alter of modern political correctness.

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  26. We'll begin the search for the motive to this modern and civilized Slaughter of Innocents, if you want to continue.

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  27. Of course I was what kind of person do you think I am?

    A touchy person?


    :)

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  28. I am touchy in certain situations.

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  29. Hey, how many days do we get a heroine here at the bar?

    I was just trying to get a little detail to fill in the picture.


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  30. We got there early enough to set up shop in a quiet corner of our own with just enough room to rotate our chairs with the sun. As all the chairs around the wave pool were lined up next to each other made it impossible to do just that.

    As the day went on a group of people came and sat in front of us. The one girl was trying to arrange her chair around the two we weren't occupying at the time. Michele said to her several times, "You can move the chairs if you want it won't be a problem." The girl looked at her with a blank stare, you know the one that says I don't understand, and then just sat down in her chair. Michele asked me to move the chairs for the girl but I told her I was getting up and that it wasn't my fault she didn't understand what you were saying.

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  31. "Hey, how many days do we get a heroine here at the bar?"

    Not many since I'm getting the picture that no one wants to be around the romper room idiots bickering back and forth. It's really becoming fucking pathetic.

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  32. The looters and pirates usually show up around ten but there hasn't been many of them around the last couple days.

    Usually with their conversation it's not too bad wading through the usual bullshit.


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  33. I wonder where Trish has been.

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  34. Well, this is really good news coming from DC. Glenn Beck, for all his short comings did good.

    Supported my favorite charity.

    The most direct beneficiary of the spectacle was the Special Operations Warrior Foundation, a veterans’ charity that attends to the schooling of the children of elite soldiers killed in war.

    Beck called on the crowd to raise their cell phones to text the charity in unison — and then informed supporters that by clicking the send button they would incur a $10 charge to directly benefit the charity. An estimated $5.5 million was raised, according to rally organizers.

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  35. She is probably getting a fix over at one of her liberal blogs.

    Or maybe she decided to go out and have some actual as opposed to virtual fun.


    Say I see you as a 'freefall sleeper'.

    Sleeping Positions


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  36. GAINESVILLE, Fla. — If building an Islamic center near ground zero amounts to the epitome of Muslim insensitivity, as critics of the project have claimed, what should the world make of Terry Jones, the evangelical pastor here who plans to memorialize the Sept. 11 attacks with a bonfire of Korans?

    Mr. Jones, 58, a former hotel manager with a red face and a white handlebar mustache, argues that as an American Christian he has a right to burn Islam’s sacred book because “it’s full of lies.” And in another era, he might have been easily ignored, as he was last year when he posted a sign at his church declaring “Islam is of the devil.”

    But now the global spotlight has shifted. With the debate in New York putting religious tensions front and center, Mr. Jones has suddenly attracted thousands of fans and critics on Facebook, while around the world he is being presented as a symbol of American anti-Islamic sentiment.

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  37. heh--I just learned today I was gay--

    Teresita said...
    Bob:I've never understood big city sexuality anyways.

    Country boy sexuality on the other hand...

    Sat Aug 28, 06:56:00 PM EDT


    bob said...
    ....is the best sexuality there is.

    Sat Aug 28, 07:05:00 PM EDT


    desert rat said...
    I always liked the country girls, but then again, there always was a question of bob's taste, with regards sexuality.

    Sat Aug 28, 07:19:00 PM EDT


    desert rat said...
    He likes the country boys, best.

    Sat Aug 28, 07:20:00 PM EDT


    It is getting pathetic, Melody is right.

    ----

    My wife and kids and I were at the C d'Alene beach one year getting ready to watch the fireworks when sobbing broke out in the group of people right next to us. Their little boy had just drowned. Amongst all those people swimming, somehow he wasn't missed, when he went under. They were all in shock, and the mother was in a very bad way. Really sad, things can happen. The grandparents were there too. My wife got so upset we just went home.

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  38. Mr. Jones who seems to spend much of his time inside a dank, dark office with a poster from the movie “Braveheart” and a picture of former President George W. Bush, appears to be largely oblivious to the potential consequences of his plans. Speaking in short sentences with a matter-of-fact drawl, he said that he could not understand why other Christians, including the nation’s largest evangelical association, had called for him to cancel “International Burn a Koran Day.”

    He acknowledged that it had brought in at least $1,000 in donations. But he said that the interviews he had done with around 150 news outlets all over the world were useful mainly because they had helped him “send a message to Islam and the pushers of Shariah law: that it is not what we want.”

    Mr. Jones said that nothing in particular had set him off. Asked about his knowledge of the Koran, he said plainly: “I have no experience with it whatsoever. I only know what the Bible says.”

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  39. Forgot to say, way to go, Melody.

    My sisters sons were lifeguards on some California beach for awhile.

    They seem to train them well.

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  40. Rat's obsession with Jews, Israel and Zionism is well documented

    He is an anti-semite.

    Nothing to discuss with him, just a warning to the Bar, he is a nazi..

    and I dont throw that term around easily..

    But Rat earns it daily.

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  41. Number one kinda looks like me except I wasn't blessed with those luscious lips like she has.

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  42. No 1?

    Are you tough on the outside but sensitive on the inside?


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  43. #7 is me, these days.

    #4 is Quirk, after yardwork.

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  44. I'm sitting here watching the Detroit Lions playing Cleveland.

    They just went ahead in the 4th Quarter.

    They have been the worst team in football for years.

    This year they finally have a few decent players. They probably won't win half their games but everyone is excited they are making progress and won't be the worst team in the NFL any more.


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  45. Do they have a guy named Lahr on the team? Question in the crossword was 'Lions player'. That was the only thing that seemed to fit.

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  46. I'm gonna pop a couple and get a little #7.

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  47. No they have a guy named Levy but he's only a second year guy.

    You sure it's a current lion?

    Maybe they are looking for a more famous one like Bobby Lane.

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  48. Obama wants the Bush Tax Cuts to sunset only for wealthy Americans. Make five figures? Congratulations! You're rich!

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  49. Since Rat is so obsessed with abortion as murder rates...

    WORLDWIDE

    Number of abortions per year: Approximately 42 Million
    Number of abortions per day: Approximately 115,000

    Where abortions occur:
    83% of all abortions are obtained in developing countries and 17% occur in developed countries.


    But rat is only concerned about Israel

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  50. Don't know the papers got recycled today.
    g'nite, if i fall to sleep

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  51. UNITED STATES

    Number of abortions per year: 1.37 Million (1996)
    Number of abortions per day: Approximately 3,700

    Who's having abortions (age)?
    52% of women obtaining abortions in the U.S. are younger than 25: Women aged 20-24 obtain 32% of all abortions; Teenagers obtain 20% and girls under 15 account for 1.2%.

    Who's having abortions (race)?
    While white women obtain 60% of all abortions, their abortion rate is well below that of minority women. Black women are more than 3 times as likely as white women to have an abortion, and Hispanic women are roughly 2 times as likely.

    Who's having abortions (marital status)?
    64.4% of all abortions are performed on never-married women; Married women account for 18.4% of all abortions and divorced women obtain 9.4%.

    Who's having abortions (religion)?
    Women identifying themselves as Protestants obtain 37.4% of all abortions in the U.S.; Catholic women account for 31.3%, Jewish women account for 1.3%, and women with no religious affiliation obtain 23.7% of all abortions. 18% of all abortions are performed on women who identify themselves as "Born-again/Evangelical".

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  52. Now according to Rat...

    I guess the use of CONDOMS is also murder....

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  53. "Are you tough on the outside but sensitive on the inside?"


    I guess that's the way you can look at it since I claim to be a lover and not a fighter and then contradict myself by saying, don't fuck me.

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  54. Chinese state media on Thursday reported that women in the country have about 13 million abortions annually, the AP/Houston Chronicle reports. According to the China Daily newspaper, the actual number likely is much higher because the 13 million includes abortions performed in hospitals but not unreported procedures performed in rural clinics.

    This does not include the "morning after" pill


    One standard for Israel, no standards for anyone else.

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  55. An Overview of Clandestine Abortion in Latin America

    December 1996
    Ahora disponible en español
    Each year, more than four million women in Latin America undergo an induced abortion. Because most abortions are illegal, these procedures are performed under clandestine and often dangerous conditions. As a result, the region faces a serious public health problem that threatens women's lives, endangers their reproductive health and imposes a severe strain on already overextended health and hospital systems.
    The practice of induced abortion in Latin America is shrouded in secrecy, a direct result of the stringent legal limitations on abortion throughout most of the region. Induced abortion is punishable by law in almost every country except Cuba and a few other Caribbean nations. In most of the region, doctors may legally terminate a pregnancy that threatens the life of the woman, that results from rape or incest, or that is characterized by fetal deformity,1 but these options are rarely used.
    Concern over the high level of clandestine abortion in Latin America is not new. Policymakers and health professionals have been aware for the past 20-30 years that unsafe procedures were being performed in most countries of the region, and at a leve l with serious consequences for women's health and for the cost of national health care services.

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  56. Wouldn't that make you sensitive on the outside and tough on the inside?

    But I'm not thinking to clearly as I got up really early this morning.

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  57. I guess that's the way you can look at it since I claim to be a lover and not a fighter and then contradict myself by saying, don't fuck me..

    I assume you meant to say "don't fuck with me". (Although in re-reading the post I'm not sure.)

    :)

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  58. Um, yeah, right that's what I meant.

    But see, I just finished watching the movie Taken with Liam Neeson who has not one sexy bone in his body but the tough/sensitive guy he plays must have went right to my head.

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  59. The Story of "o" is now where we were, days ago, when I lamented the deaths of some 50 million US babies.

    But then again, that is the modern civilization that we have been blessed with. A civilization that the Story of "o" attributes to Judaism. How right he is.

    The civilization is quite barbaric, really.

    Which takes us back to the basic theme of equivalency. bob told us that we were at War with Islam.
    Which amounted to:
    Civilization vs Barbarity.

    That premise is rejected by the facts. By the American Holocaust as well as the Israeli one. We both slaughter innocents. Neither is a hallmark of real civilization, both are barbaric.
    No doubt of that.

    And no, Story of "o", wearing a condom is not equivalent to abortion. There is no conception, thus no killing.

    Simple stuff, really.

    Guess we start with motive, scope and scale. Sweet stuff.

    In 2008 there were 112,803 live births to Jewish mothers, in Israel.
    According to Friends of Efrat,, a source referenced by allen as legitimate, there are 50,000 abortions in Israel, every year.

    So, simply put, at third of Jewish pregnancies, in Israel end in the premature death of the baby.

    1 out of 3.

    The Friends of Efrat do a comparison, death by terrorist, as opposed to deaths by Israeli, as applies to babies.

    1 death per week is attributed to terror.
    900 per week, attributed to infanticide.

    Truly, the threat to Israel is not foreign or domestic terror. It is internal.

    Let's see if we can find out why.

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  60. Wednesday January 2, 2008

    Chief Rabbis of Israel Rule Abortion "a Grave Sin"

    "The vast majority of abortions are unnecessary and strictly forbidden according to halacha because they are carried out even when the pregnancies do not endanger the mother's health," the rabbis wrote in their decision.
    ...

    The rabbis based their ruling primarily on Genesis 9:6, which reads: "Whoever sheds the blood of man, by man shall his blood be shed; for in the image of God has God made man." The rabbis, in making their ruling based on this text, affirmed the dignity of unborn persons, all of whom are made in the image of God.

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  61. Efrat isn’t trying to change abortion laws. Instead, it hopes women will seek its support rather than have an abortion for economic reasons.

    “We’re not against abortions,” Tidhar said. “We’re for women.”

    Efrat President Dr. Eli Schussheim said the organization is built around former clients who, having seen that it’s possible to have a child in spite of harsh economic realities, will then counsel other women against abortion.


    So, are a third of Israeli pregnancies being terminated, prematurely, for economic reasons, when Israel's economy is booming?

    Seems hard to fathom, if women are held in high esteem, that in good economic times that a third of the pregnant women would feel it economically impossible to care for their babies after they were born.

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  62. It seems that the Story of "o" is misinformed about when Jewish life begins. At least according to Sephardic Chief Rabbi Shlomo Amar and Ashkenazi Chief Rabbi Yona Metzger.

    "Whoever sheds the blood of man, by man shall his blood be shed; for in the image of God has God made man."

    Meanwhile, it seems that money is the primary concern of those that are killing their children, prematurely.

    ... Tidhar describes her organization’s “typical” client: “The vast majority of the women who come to us are religiously traditional and married. Usually this isn’t their first pregnancy. The classic case says, ‘We already have three kids. My husband says we won’t be able to manage financially, and he’s right.’”

    The Israeli buy attack submarines, tanks and nuclear armaments enough to destroy the most of the people in their region of Arabia.

    Elevating fear above people.
    Assuring their own demographic self-destruction.

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  63. According to those two Rabbis, who one would assume would know:

    "The vast majority of abortions are unnecessary and strictly forbidden according to halacha because they are carried out even when the pregnancies do not endanger the mother's health," the rabbis wrote in their decision.

    Ever more interesting.

    I am certainly glad the Story of "o" continues to write me into the script.

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  64. It is easy to defend the humanity of those Jewish babies, I just have to allow the Rabbis do it, for me.

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  65. It seems that the priorities of the Israeli Government do not put Jewish lives, first.

    Munitions come first.

    They are promoting a culture and modern civilization that emphasizes the Industrialization of Death.

    As I posited just the other day.

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  66. Israel Organ Trafficking Scammers Arrested

    by STEPHANIE DEARING (DIGITAL JOURNAL)

    (April 8, 2010) According to Israeli press, police arrested six men in northern Israel Tuesday, in a crack-down on illegal human organ trafficking.

    Police had launched an investigation after receiving a number of complaints from people who had responded to a newspaper ad saying respondents would be paid $100,000 for a kidney. The respondents participated, giving up a kidney in surgery completed out of Israel, but when they returned home, they were not paid.

    The investigation culminated in a raid which resulted in the arrests of an Israeli reserve Brigadier General along with two lawyers.

    Police said they uncovered a large operation at work in Israel, one that takes advantage of people experiencing kidney problems as well as people with financial difficulties.

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  67. The United States, in the year ending in December of 2009 had a total of 4,136,000 live births.

    The last year for which I can find abortion data is 2005, with 1.21 million abortions.

    A tad more accurate than given us in the Story of "o". He does confirm one thing for us though.
    Israel is equivalent or even more barbaric than their neighboring Semitics, when it comes to slaughtering innocents.

    Which is the core of my over riding argument.
    Vindicated on that score, again.

    But still we are all quite barbaric.

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  68. Italy has denied religious status to Islam.
    Politicians cited extremist (fundamentalist) imams, polygamy and failure to uphold women's rights by Muslim immigrants as obstacles to recognizing Islam as an official religion in Italy.

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