“Soft despotism is a term coined by Alexis de Tocqueville describing the state into which a country overrun by "a network of small complicated rules" might degrade. Soft despotism is different from despotism (also called 'hard despotism') in the sense that it is not obvious to the people."

Friday, August 06, 2010

Missouri's Whopping Whooping of ObamaCare

On Tuesday Missourians passed a proposition to deny the federal government the ability to dictate on health care by a whopping whooping of 71%.

When you click on the map of Missouri, you will have a hard time finding a county that did not support the proposition:

Shall the Missouri Statutes be amended to:

  • Deny the government authority to penalize citizens for refusing to purchase private health insurance or infringe upon the right to offer or accept direct payment for lawful healthcare services?
  • Modify laws regarding the liquidation of certain domestic insurance companies?

The passage sent a clear message of discontent to the White House and Democratic-led Congress heading into the midterm elections, however the wizards in black dresses will probably reject it, because they know best.

Their day will come. The more the wizards reject, the closer they will bring this society to rebel and end their reign of arrogance.


August 05, 2010
The Revolt of the States
By Gayle Kesselman
American Thinker

It was with trepidation that I went to the National Immigration Summit held in Phoenix, Arizona on July 30 and 31. The summit was organized by national anti-illegal immigration organizations and was scheduled to celebrate the day that Arizona's State Bill 1070 became law. The National Immigration Summit was planned to send a congratulatory message to Arizonans who were finally able to take effective action to protect themselves from a horrendous crime problem tied to illegal immigration.

As we all know, SB 1070 has become a cause célèbre in the national media. The new law requires, among other things, that foreign nationals carry documentation of their citizenship status. Furthermore, SB 1070 allows local police to check this documentation and to verify an individual's status if, in the course of their routine police activities, they have reason to suspect that that individual is in the country illegally. As a result of these provisions, local police can more easily turn individuals over to federal authorities for deportation.

But last-minute events threatened to dampen the celebration. As a result of a lawsuit brought against Arizona by Attorney General Eric Holder on behalf of the federal government, Judge Susan Bolton was able to file temporary injunctions against several portions of the SB 1070. But instead of being overcome with disappointment, attendees at the summit were jubilant about the fact that significant portions of SB 1070 had actually become law. That this was not reported in the mainstream media should surprise no one. These details were even neglected to a large extent by the conservative media, which tended to be preoccupied with commenting on what commentators saw as the inappropriate nature of Judge Bolton's ruling. But the fact remains that significant portions of SB 1070 were not affected by her ruling and are now law in the State of Arizona.

To take just one example, one section of the bill mandates a fine of up to $5,000 a day payable to the State of Arizona by any city which openly declares itself a so-called "sanctuary city." This would include the city of Phoenix, which, under the leadership of Mayor Phil Gordon, has a policy of not allowing police to question anyone's citizenship status. When Judge Bolton ruled that the federal government had supremacy in the area of immigration law that could not be overturned by states or localities, she effectively ended the ability of Mayor Gordon to thumb his nose at federal immigration law. Of course, if Mayor Gordon feels that strongly about Phoenix remaining a sanctuary city, he does have the option of having his city pay a fine of $5,000 every day to the State of Arizona. The section of SB 1070 that mandates the abolition of sanctuary cities under penalty of law was not struck down by Judge Bolton, and so it stands.

Another section of SB 1070 makes it illegal for an employer to pick up a day laborer on a busy street under penalty of getting his car impounded. This section of SB 1070 was also left standing by Judge Bolton. This provision goes a long way to shutting down public areas where illegal immigrants congregate looking for work and makes Arizona a less attractive state for illegal immigrants to settle in.

The energy and enthusiasm at the Phoenix Summit was palpable. Attendees saw SB 1070 not as a defeat, but as a victory. SB 1070 was not made null and void, as the mainstream media would have had you believe, and the injunctions put in place by Judge Bolton are temporary. At the summit were Arizonans who were fired up and determined to fight all the way to the Supreme Court if necessary. There was excitement and a sense that time is on their side.

Events at the summit were reflective of more general political currents swirling under the radar -- certainly of our mainstream media, and even of our conservative media. The fact is that almost every state in the United States has adopted, or is planning to adopt, some sort of measure relating to illegal immigration. And this is happening as a counterpoint to the vacuum of principled leadership on the illegal immigration issue by our politicians in the federal government.

According to Mary Giovagnoli, Director of the Immigration Policy Center, just in the first quarter of 2010, 1,180 immigration bills were introduced in state legislatures, and 206 laws were enacted. To highlight a few examples, Virginia enacted H737, which requires state agencies, public contractors, localities, and private employers with fifteen or more employees to enroll in the E-Verify program by December 1, 2010. E-Verify is a federal program which enables employers to ensure that prospective employees have valid social security numbers and are therefore either U.S. citizens or legal residents. During the same period, South Dakota introduced H1107, requiring evidence of legal presence in the U.S. to renew a nonresident commercial driver license; and Oklahoma introduced H2751, requiring any immigrant unlawfully present under federal immigration law to submit to DNA testing for law enforcement identification purposes if arrested. Both laws were subsequently enacted.

This phenomenon of states asserting their sovereignty in defiance of the federal government is apparent in areas other than immigration. Montana and Tennessee have both enacted legislation which would in effect nullify federal gun laws for ammunition, firearms, and firearm accessories which are manufactured and remain in their respective states. Alaska, Florida, Michigan, Minnesota, Ohio, and South Carolina have introduced similar legislation into their state legislatures. And we all know about the lawsuits initiated by numerous states seeking to overturn the recently passed federal health care reform popularly known as ObamaCare.

As Thomas E. Woods points out in his excellent book Nullification: How to Resist Federal Tyranny in the 21st Century, the sovereign states that make up the United States were meant to be checks against federal tyranny. Prior to the Civil War, there was an impressive history of states using their power to attempt to nullify federal laws that the states considered unconstitutional because the federal laws impinged on the sovereignty of the states. For many years following the founding of our country, these attempts occurred in the context of a wide range of issues which had nothing to do with the abominable institution of slavery in the South. As Woods notes, however, beginning with the buildup to the U.S. Civil War and up to the Civil Rights struggles of the 1960s, the issue of "State Rights" has been associated chiefly with attempts to perpetuate racial injustice. Unfortunately, this has led to demonization of those who believe that sovereign states can play a significant role in blocking the federal government when it oversteps its constitutional boundaries.

In some ways, our present divided country is a mirror-image of the one that plunged into civil war a century and a half ago. In those days, "States' Rights" was the clarion call for those who wished to perpetuate a morally corrupt and oppressive system. In our current era, when it comes to issues including immigration, gun rights, and health care, to name just a few, it is the states who are asserting themselves against a corrupt and oppressive federal government. The revolt of the states is real and growing. It is time to reexamine the issues of state sovereignty with new eyes, free from outmoded canards of the past.


  1. The James Boys never administered an ass-whompin like That!

  2. There are an awful lot of issues that are likely to end up in the Supreme Court soon.

    It will be interesting to see where they come down on states rights issues.


  3. Well, I'm sure, by now, they've forgotten the scolding Obama gave them on National Television at the SOTU.

  4. You're probably right.

    I had forgotten about that.

    Isn't divided government grand?

    Have a good one Ruf.


  5. We know that Judge Kagan will not remember that scolding.

    Not a word of it.

  6. Isn't that interesting. The Social Security Trust Fund has about Two Trillion, Nine Hundred and Twenty Billion Dollar in de ol' lockieboxie.

    After Payments, and "Interest" it will show a "Profit" of about $50 Billion this year.

    And, the "profits" go out just about "as far as the eye can see."

    So, why all the whining? It is a "Trust Fund," right? The "Assets" belong to the "Fund," right?

    So, if Collected Payments are fifteen, or twenty billion less than payouts in 2020 we can just take it out of the "lockbox," right? Sell back a few of them bonds, right?

    Whassa problem?

  7. I'm thinking there might be about 5 that do, Rat.

    Fellers by the name of: Thomas, Scalia, Alito, Roberts, Kennedy.

  8. It's really odd, there's not a cloud in the sky, but over to the east there is this massive lightning show, lighting up half the sky, I've never seen anything like it, and no noise, either.

    Really strange, like the aliens are up to something.

  9. It's really strange I can hear the crickets, there's not a cloud in the sky, no noise, but then, half the sky lights up, I've never seen anything like it, it's like sheet lightning, not the zig zag, but man, what a display.

    There it goes again.


  10. Man, wow, what a display. It's over to the east, where the mountains are, not a cloud in the sky, no noise, but this sheet lightning is lighting up half the sky.

    I've been around here a long time and I've never seen anything like this.

  11. jeez it is just really ripping I've never ever seen anything like it what a show

  12. That was one extreme lightning storm I've never seen anything like it, it's passed now.

  13. Blogger whit said...

    "It will be very interesting to see how well the constitution holds up under our secular society. Back in the day, the nation was more cohesive, less diverse. People had a shared morality based on Judaeo Christian ideals. That society is disappearing before our eyes. The boomer generation has seen the deterioration of the society that we once knew. Once we bought into the fiction of separation of church and state, we sealed the fate of the republic."

    hmmm, back in the day. How about the day of the founding fathers. I wonder what they thought about Islam:

    "Readers may be surprised to learn that there may have been hundreds, perhaps thousands, of Muslims in the United States in 1776—imported as slaves from areas of Africa where Islam flourished. Although there is no evidence that the Founders were aware of the religious convictions of their bondsmen, it is clear that the Founding Fathers thought about the relationship of Islam to the new nation and were prepared to make a place for it in the republic.

    In his seminal Letter on Toleration (1689), John Locke insisted that Muslims and all others who believed in God be tolerated in England. Campaigning for religious freedom in Virginia, Jefferson followed Locke, his idol, in demanding recognition of the religious rights of the "Mahamdan," the Jew and the "pagan." Supporting Jefferson was his old ally, Richard Henry Lee, who had made a motion in Congress on June 7, 1776, that the American colonies declare independence. "True freedom," Lee asserted, "embraces the Mahomitan and the Gentoo (Hindu) as well as the Christian religion."

    In his autobiography, Jefferson recounted with satisfaction that in the struggle to pass his landmark Bill for Establishing Religious Freedom (1786), the Virginia legislature "rejected by a great majority" an effort to limit the bill's scope "in proof that they meant to comprehend, within the mantle of its protection, the Jew and the Gentile, the Christian and Mahometan." George Washington suggested a way for Muslims to "obtain proper relief" from a proposed Virginia bill, laying taxes to support Christian worship. On another occasion, the first president declared that he would welcome "Mohometans" to Mount Vernon if they were "good workmen" (see page 96). Officials in Massachusetts were equally insistent that their influential Constitution of 1780 afforded "the most ample liberty of conscience … to Deists, Mahometans, Jews and Christians," a point that Chief Justice Theophilus Parsons resoundingly affirmed in 1810. "


    "That ordinary citizens shared these positive views is demonstrated by a petition of a group of citizens of Chesterfield County, Va., to the state assembly, Nov. 14, 1785: "Let Jews, Mehometans and Christians of every denomination enjoy religious liberty…thrust them not out now by establishing the Christian religion lest thereby we become our own enemys and weaken this infant state. It is mens labour in our Manufactories, their services by sea and land that aggrandize our Country and not their creeds. Chain your citizens to the state by their Interest. Let Jews, Mehometans, and Christians of every denomination find their advantage in living under your laws."

    The Founders of this nation explicitly included Islam in their vision of the future of the republic. Freedom of religion, as they conceived it, encompassed it. Adherents of the faith were, with some exceptions, regarded as men and women who would make law-abiding, productive citizens. Far from fearing Islam, the Founders would have incorporated it into the fabric of American life. "

  14. Salutin:

    " The oddest element in the WikiLeaks furor was Western dismay over Pakistan’s role: still trying to use and control the Taliban. Why odd? Because it’s seen as okay to demand that Pakistan follow what the U.S. sees as its interests, but not what they see as their own. This is effectively psychotic; it ignores patent reality. You simply can’t expect people to pursue your interests, but not theirs, in their region, inside their borders.

    Sometimes, the delusionality is blatant. Take this recent report: “U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton angered Beijing by declaring that disputes between China and its neighbours over international boundaries in the strategically important South China Sea are a U.S. ‘national interest.’ ” That’s the South China Sea, not the Jersey shore. And: The U.S. is “watching apprehensively as China expands its influence in East Asia.” Er, the Chinese are in Asia, the Americans aren’t. This kind of thing more or less led to the Pacific part of the Second World War.

    During the latter part of the 20th century, most challenges to the egomaniacal (clinically speaking) U.S. mindset on world affairs came from small national liberation movements in places such as Cuba or Vietnam. Now the tests come from rising global powers such as China, India and Pakistan, on their own turf. I’m not crying panic here. These things usually get worked out between large powers. But it may be time for a reality check."

  15. on the lighter side:

    The Woman Marine Pilot

    The teacher gave her fifth grade class an assignment: Get their parents to tell them a story with a moral at the end of it. The next day, the kids came back and, one by one, began to tell their stories.

    There were all the regular types of stuff: spilled milk and pennies saved. But then the teacher realized, much to her dismay, that only Janie was left.

    “Janie, do you have a story to share?'

    ''Yes ma'am. My daddy told me a story about my Mommy. She was a Marine pilot in Desert Storm, and her plane got hit. She had to bail out over enemy territory, and all she had was a flask of whiskey, a pistol, and a survival knife.

    She drank the whiskey on the way down so the bottle wouldn't break, and then her parachute landed her right in the middle of 20 Iraqi troops. She shot 15 of them with the pistol, until she ran out of bullets, killed four more with the knife, till the blade broke, and then she killed the last Iraqi with her bare hands.

    ''Good Heavens,' said the horrified teacher. 'What did your Daddy tell you was the moral to this horrible story?

    " Don 't fuck with Mommy when she's been drinking."

  16. We are the world, ash.

    The rest of it best get used to the idea.

    Or we'll renege on our debt payments to them.

  17. that is also one of the things that'll keep the States in line - the inability to print their own money.

  18. Ash: that is also one of the things that'll keep the States in line - the inability to print their own money.

    Yeah, but California is registering their displeasure with Arizona's racist law enforcing federal immigration statutes by saying, "No IOUs 4U!"

  19. Republican senators are toying with the idea of abolishing or amending the 14th Amendment. Better spent would be time abolishing the 17th Amendment. Do not expect Republican senators to advance such a goal.

  20. John Locke was a goddamned fool.

  21. Then the old man got to cussing and cussed everything and everybody he could think of, and then cussed them all over again to make sure he hadn't skipped any, and after that he polished off with a kind of a general cuss all round, including a considerable parcel of people which he didn't know the names of, and so called them what's-his-name when he got to them, and went right along with his cussing.

  22. Interesting Jobs Report, today. Weak overall, of course; but, "Manufacturing" is steadily adding jobs. A positive sign in a weak report.

  23. Supporting Jefferson was his old ally, Richard Henry Lee, who had made a motion in Congress on June 7, 1776, that the American colonies declare independence. "True freedom," Lee asserted, "embraces the Mahomitan and the Gentoo (Hindu) as well as the Christian religion."

    Idiots and morons!!!!!!

    Dullards, fools, true morons.


    The Hindoos are ok, in fact their philosophy is great, but the muzzzies are our enemies, to the death.

    Cause that's the way they want it.

    We made some real mistakes, back in the beginning.

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  25. Private employers added a net total of only 71,000 jobs in July, far below the roughly 200,000 needed each month to reduce the unemployment rate.

    The modest gains were even weaker when considering a loss of government jobs at the local, state and federal levels in July that weren't temporary census positions. Factoring those in, the net gains were only 12,000 jobs, according to the Labor Department's July report Friday.

    Companies hire at slow pace for 3rd straight month

    At this rate, 8,000,000 jobs can be created in about 666 years.

  26. Put you into a hole in the ground, up to about your tits, and throw throw throw, with little pebbles, until you bleed to death.

    Good luck to them on that, my idea of gun control is three rounds through the same hole. Body piercing by Colt. I'm going to Fely's hometown in Mindanao in December, that's the island that has Muslim separatists, but they'd have to get through nested concentric rings of family to get to me.

  27. And Bob, I thought the Huck Finn quote would at least make you smile. You need a sense of humor, bud.

  28. boobie is not even supporting the philosophy nor the philosophers that made the United States a great nation.

    He is locked in a closet of his own making.

    Denying what the United States is, as he claims it is being lost.

    Talk about a fella being moronic, idiotic and just plain crazy.

  29. Right now, the "small" guys can't get any money. None. Zilch. Nada. And, that's bad, because it's the "small" guys that lead you out of recession.

  30. You are an absolute idiot rathole, you don't know nothing of what even you are talking about.

    I think, you just love the muzzies, cause you got a woman problem.

    Can't fall in love and get rejected, and accept it.


  31. And another thing, it's so gross to just call names.

    All this boobie craparoo just makes you look silly.

    And I'm sorry I called you rathole.

    I apologize.

  32. Under the plan by Senate Finance Committee Chairman Max Baucus, the integrated oil companies after the end of this year would no longer be able to deduct 6 percent of their income from oil and gas production from their tax liability.

    Betcha didn't know about that. The most subsidized industry on earth.

    And, Exxon still didn't pay a penny of income tax in the U.S. last year.

    Senate Bill

  33. "The news that Representative-elect Keith Ellison (D-MN) plans today to take an informal Congressional oath of office on a copy of the Qur'an once owned by Thomas Jefferson might seem surreal to those who cannot imagine that the Founding Fathers had anything but a passing familiarity with the religion that so dominates political discourse in 21st century America. Ellison's specific choice of Qur'an was meant to highlight the relationship that Islam and Muslims have had with the United States since its inception, as well as the place that Islam's holy book had with one of the most respected leaders of early America.

    Adorned with his initials, Jefferson's Qur'an - an 1764 English translation from Arabic by George Sale - was purchased and used during his comparative legal studies, and was sold to the Library of Congress after the War of 1812. Sale, while clearly distancing himself from Islamic theology in his commentary (the translation Ellison will take his oath on calls the Prophet Muhammad a "criminal... imposing a false religion"), also states that "the praises due to his real virtues ought not to be denied him" and that Islam had no better or worse a historical record than Judaism or Christianity.

    And despite public opinion about Islam at the time (which differs little from Sale's professed negative statements), Jefferson explicitly referenced Islam in his support of Virginia's Statute for Establishing Religious Freedom in 1786, where he praised its protections of "the Jew and the Gentile, the Christian and Mahometan, the Hindoo and the Infidel." Early American writings show Jefferson wasn't alone. "It is clear that the Founding Fathers thought about the relationship of Islam to the new nation," writes James Hutson, Manuscript Division Chief for the Library of Congress, "and were prepared to make a place for it in the republic."

  34. WiO has you nailed right to the wall. He's smarter than you are, more intelligent, better read, and can out argue any day of the week.

  35. can out argue you any day of the week

  36. As for the upcoming elections, let's get out there and vote Republican, it's the best we can do.

  37. We didn't know enough when we were starting our country to make sure we didn't accept the muzzies. As we should not have done.
    That was a major mistake, this idea that all religions are equal.

    They want to put the women down.

    They aren't.


    The religions.

    I know.

    I have studied.

  38. but even if you believe that his proposed spending cuts are feasible — which you shouldn’t — the Roadmap wouldn’t reduce the deficit. All it would do is cut benefits for the middle class while slashing taxes on the rich.

    And I do mean slash. The Tax Policy Center finds that the Ryan plan would cut taxes on the richest 1 percent of the population in half, giving them 117 percent of the plan’s total tax cuts. That’s not a misprint. Even as it slashed taxes at the top, the plan would raise taxes for 95 percent of the population.

    Krugman looks at Paul Ryan's Roadmap.

  39. The fact is, Thomas Jefferson wasn't too crazy about "Any" religion.

  40. boobie's rambling again.

    Not a single coherent thought in his head.

    Wants to destroy the low cost hydro-electric dams, replace their energy production with high cost nuclear energy.

    Just because ...

    of the fish.

    You read the stories of "o"?

    That's comical.

  41. Zionist propaganda vs Thomas Jefferson, and boobie thinks the current crop of Zionists are smarter than Jefferson was.

    More "American"

    Beyond idiotic, beyond moronic, no patriotic American would say such a thing about a President and Founder.

    But an agent of a foreign power, they certainly would belittle our Founding Fathers in such a manner.

    Someone that had lost faith in the people of the United States, they would take such a stand.

    Foreigners at heart.

  42. "o" admitted, just yesterday or the day before, with his story about the massacre at Hama, Jordon, in 1982, that the Arabs are not driven by religion, but by the most basic of human emotions, the lust for power.

    Yep, debasing his own Zionist propaganda.

    Guess you missed that part of his story, boobie.

  43. boobie is your handle, it describes your thinking, to a "T".

    Learn to love it.

  44. Mea Culpa, that's Hama, Syria, not Jordon.

    My bad.

    But it does not change the storyline, not an iota.

  45. They're building a "Solar Panel" plant in Senatobia, a little NW Ms town a few miles south of Memphis.

    Meanwhile, Sunoco announces it's getting out of the Oil Refining business, and Valero's closing another refinery.

    The fact is: the world is changing right before our eyes. Don't get caught in 20th Century thinking.

  46. The AAA Yellow Cab Co of has 140 Flexfuel Vehicles on the road. I guess they weren't happy with the prices they were having to pay for E85, so they're opening their own Filling Station.

    I'm estimating, depending on certain variables, that this move might save them up to $1,000.00/day, or more, on their fuel costs.

    This is a No-Brainer for anyone with a fleet of vehicles.

  47. Oh, Rat, that AAA Yellow Cab Co is in Phoenix, Az.

  48. boobie, boobie, boobie, that let's me say your an asshole, that's three times,. as everybody round here agrees, includng Trish, who said one time, there's something really wrong with you, rat.

  49. And I mean, really really wrong, like in, bragging about being a killer.


  50. Makes little difference to me, boobie, what others think, or say, about me.

    As long as I am the center of your attention.

    Which is not much of a span.

  51. It wouldn't, cause you
    're absolutely nuts.

    What other people think of your mind, would make no difference to you.

    Because you're absolutely nuts, a self confessed killer, as we all know, self confessed, and you're proud of it.

  52. There you go, demeaning US foreign policy, once again.

    Now you are demeaning Ronald Wilson Reagan, along with Thomas Jefferson.

    You are right there, boobie, with the former Foreign Minister of Nicoland
    Fr. D'Escoto, Priest and former Nicaraguan Foreign Minister

    Not only do you belittle Thomas Jefferson and Ronald Wilson Reagan, now you ally yourself and spread the propaganda of full fledged liberation theocracy Communists.

    That is the kind of American patriot our boobie is.

  53. You just hate the United States of America and all she stands for, don't you, boobie?

    Thomas Jefferson and Ronald Reagan, they are not "real" Americans in your view.

    You are a fucking Communist sympathizer.

    A self-admitted Scum of the Earth Communist, by your last three posts.

  54. You'd have been right there, with the Sandinista, killing the Miskito Indians, instead of defending them, you Communist scum.

  55. Those poor Indians had nothing, no weapons but machetes.

    The Sandinista, fully armed up.
    Death squads were the order of the day, and there you stand shoulder to shoulder with them.

    You should be ashamed of yourself, to demean the United States so.

    But you are proud of your stance against US and our values. You are ashamed that we defend the innocent and the weak.

    You are lower that whale shit.

  56. Damned right I'm proud to have helped those people against the Communist Death Squads.

    Where were you?

  57. Hiding in a rain barrel.

    That's where, you fucking scum Communist lover.

  58. What would you defend?

    What sacrifice would you make, for the United States?

    You gave none of your time and you bemoan paying fair and equitable taxes.

    You're a fucking Communist.

  59. "but even if you believe that his proposed spending cuts are feasible — which you shouldn’t — the Roadmap wouldn’t reduce the deficit..."

    Holy cow, Ruf.

    In our discussion yesterday you started out sounding like a Liberal.

    You progressed to sounding like a Libertarian.

    By the end you were sounding like an Anarcho-Libertarian.

    I expected you would next be calling for taking out the Archduke.

    But it is much worse than I thought. You are now quoting Krugman.


  60. say what you like about Krugman Quirk but ad hominem attacks don't negate the problems he points out with the "Roadmap".

  61. You would not even seek justice for your own family members that were physically violated.

    You're a fucking coward.

  62. boobie, the cowardly communist of the Elephant Bar.

  63. You are a fucking Communist sympathizer.



  64. No, boobie, you are the beneficiary of men better than you.

    You are an exploiter, a hater and a racist bigot.

    You bad mouth our Presidents while demeaning our country and the foreign policies it pursued.

    You are a cowardly communist scum.

    You've called Ronald Reagan a murderer, just like other communists, you fucking scum.

  65. Jesus you're absolutely NUTS!!!!

    Commie? I want small government, private space, society and the government off my back, good books to read, private property, a good looking wife, and an active sex life, you shit head.

    And a nice shotgun, and grouse hunting.

    And fishing, too.

  66. You support genocide, by abortion, of a portion of the US citizenry.

    Those that are black.

    You are a disgrace to everything that makes the United States great.

  67. And an active sex life might be the best of all.

    Rat, you are really nuts!!!

    When, show me, when have I ever criticized Ronald Reagan?

    Show me, show the Bar.

    I know I haven't cause I liked the guy.

    I may have criticized him a little round the edges, but I liked the guy, after all, I voted for him.

  68. You support genocide, by abortion, of a portion of the US citizenry.

    You are full of crap.

    What I am for is contraception.

    I'm the biggest supporter of Sarah Palin here.

    Trish got so mad at me I finally had to take my monioker down.

    And we know what her position is. Sarah's position is one of which which I don't entirely agree. She may go a little to far.

    I met her in Sandpoint, Idaho, I went to the first Tea Party in Coeur d' Alene.

    You're just absolutely full of shit, shithead.

    Commie, heh, farmer, landlord, developer shit you are out of your fucking mind.

    Reader, more than you, delved into good lit, deep philospphy, I'm not an idiot like you, I'm a fisherman, hunter, farmer, developer, land lord, hell you are out of your fucking mind.

    We built this country, shithead, from the ground up, and you better damn well believe it, cause it's true.


  69. Q, that is the First time, Ever, that I've linked to a Krugman piece. He's Not my favorite economist - by a very, very wide margin.

    I am, by nature, a "supply-sider." However, common sense must reign. A lot of what the Republicans, and Ryan, have been saying is disingenuous, if not outright false. Some of it just blows the "bs-o-meter" right out of the water.

    At this point, a rational Man would have to say: we've got to "Cut Spending," And "Raise Revenue." Period. Anyways, always a good idea to hear "both sides," right?

  70. You want to go back to the thirties, or the twenties, or the 1890's when we settled here, and the Nez Perce were still living in
    Teepees, and begging for food?

    You want to go back to that ASSHOLE?


    Grow up, you moron.

  71. "say what you like about Krugman Quirk but ad hominem attacks don't negate the problems he points out with the "Roadmap".

    Ash, after your comments about brothers and sisters marrying yesterday, I expected I wouldn't be responding to your posts for awhile.

    I only respond to this one because it allows me to expand on a point I made in my comment to Rufus.

    In a previous post I complemented Ryan as being one of the one politicians, actually the only one that I know, that has laid out a plan with details that would eventually get us out of the escalating deficit problems we face.

    I didn't say it was a practical plan (the chances of a number of these cuts happening are probably nil); however, it is a detailed plan and the guy had the balls to lay it out for all to see. You can compare it to the Democratic's position (unfinshed at this point, think of cap-and-trade, etc) including healthcare that guarantees that deficits will continue to grow at an escalating rate into the future.

    It also compares to the typical GOP bromides and generalities spouted by the leadership. "We need to cut taxes, at least on the fat cats in order to spur growth." "We need to cut spending." Never any details on what those cuts would be. Too dangerous. An election coming up you know. Pure BS.

    But back to Krugman. Ad hominem attacks? How about, he has ceased to be an economist and is now merely a political hack.

    Take the reference Rufus posted:

    "but even if you believe that his proposed spending cuts are feasible — which you shouldn’t — the Roadmap wouldn’t reduce the deficit.

    First a general point. Krugman, like all political hacks of his ilk, picks and chooses his positions according to whatever fits his case. While defending the healthcare bill he was very willing accept all the Dems' claims that they would "actually" make all those spending cuts they promised. Now he suggests that Ryan's proposed spending cuts are rediculous. The hypocrisy is palpable.

    He buys into Sebelius' double-dipping analysis of the benefits coming from the health plan then knocks the CBO analysis of Ryan's plan.

    I (unlike you I suspect) have read, actually just skimmed to be honest, the CBO analysis of Ryan's plan. It is true that out to around 2040, Ryan's plan actually increases the deficit. However, around 2080, we start decreasing the deficit. The highest our dept to GDP gets is around 100%. This compares to current projection that show our deficits increasing at escalating rates ad infinatum.

    I usually read Krugman thus following Lord Acton's dictum that it is the mark of an uneducated person to read only those books he or she agrees with. The educated person reads books he or she disagrees with.

    However, quote Krugman to make a point. I don't think so.


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  73. Cause we had FOOD, shithead, that necessary item.

    Without which, not a hell of lot get's done.

    You absolutely piece of crap of a moron.

  74. Give me a break, Jefferson wrote the "Jefferson Bible". Note two things: 1) it was a "Bible" (upper case "B") and 2) Jefferson was sufficiently interested to spend considerable of his precious time writing it.

    You all have opinions on everything; have you ever read a book other than truckstop porn?

    Libraries are filled with the work of the Founders, much of which has to do with the essential place of religion in the American Republic.

    Again, what the Founders opposed, for the most part, was a state nominated religion with the right to collect the tithe.

    Now, to something of genuine interest to all the fans of the EB, who love, love love our troops:

    "Now, rather than loosen the rules of engagement as many would have preferred, General Petraeus has tightened them. Under General McChrystal, NATO forces were prohibited from calling in air strikes or artillery fire on village compounds where the enemy might have been mixed in with civilians. Going several steps better, General Petraeus has reportedly expanded the ban on air strikes and artillery fire to all types of buildings, tree-lined areas and hillsides where it is difficult to distinguish who is on the ground."

    Afghanistan War: Petraeus Tightens Rules of Engagement

    ...murder most foul!...

  75. Christ, it's so idiotic.

    The Nez Perce begged from us.

    Cause we were farmers, and had FOOD!

    You think things were goddamned easy out here? you're out of you're G-
    D mind.

    It was tough, and we built the society, for what it's worth.

    Which with Rats ass around, ain't much.

  76. Fri Aug 06, 03:03:00 PM EDT

    You describe the actions in Nicoland as murder, as did the Nicoland politicos.

    Previously cited and linked to.

    You sided with them, against Ronald Reagan.

    You're a liberation theocracy communists, by that charge of murder in Nicoland by those carrying out Ronald W. Reagan's policies, boobie.

    You are ignorant of the meaning your own charges as well as being moronic, idiotic and just plain dumb.

  77. "2080," Q?





    The Deficit's not all that hard. Everyone's Demogoguing it right now.

    As the "stimulus" spending goes away,

    and we trim a couple hundred billion off of the war funding,

    and as 5% of our workforce gets back to work,

    and as the higher taxes taxes kick in in 2011

    we'll start to see quite a bit of light (and, hopefully, This time it won't be a train.)

  78. "You are a fucking Communist sympathizer."
    Fri Aug 06, 03:15:00 PM EDT

    "You are lower that whale shit."
    Aug 06, 03:22:00 PM EDT

    "That's where, you fucking scum Communist lover."
    Fri Aug 06, 03:25:00 PM EDT

    "You're a fucking Communist."
    Fri Aug 06, 03:39:00 PM EDT

    "You're a fucking coward."
    Fri Aug 06, 03:53:00 PM EDT

    "You've called Ronald Reagan a murderer, just like other communists, you fucking scum."
    Fri Aug 06, 04:01:00 PM EDT

    All this from the Islamist who recently told the EB that he did not have to resort to profanity


  79. Come Mr. Taliban, come implement Shariah.

    Before the daylight come, Insh'Allah, it will be done.

    Hey Mr. Taliban, come kill the dirty kuffir,

    Get rid of the haram, because we want halal.

    Hey Mr. Taliban, boom, boom, boom, come bomb England

    Before the daylight come. Insh'Allah, it will be done.

  80. Another "genius" Republican in action.

    The Pub running for Governor in Minnesota a state in which ethanol is a very important part of the economy, a state that has over twice as many E85 Stations as Iowa, a state with, probably, 20, or more, ethanol refineries, a strong corn raising state, decided, somewhere along the line, to, consistently, vote "Against" Ethanol.

    The Dems are having a "field day" on him.

    In Ca, Meg Whitman just can't bring herself to come out in favor of their Green Energy Law (which was voted in by Referendum,) and against Chevron, and Tesoro.

    She's spending more in a day than Jerry "Moonbeam" Brown is spending in a month, and Moonbeam is kicking her ass all over the newswaves over her position (and, doing it for free.)

    Republicans, the party of Wahhabis, and Brainiacs.

  81. " rufus said...
    "2080," Q?



    Ruf, my initial post to you was meant to be humorous. By bad for not posting the emoticom.

    My post to Ash stands on it's own.

    The time frame? Obviously hard to make preditions out that far. In fact, CBO goes out of their way to point that out in the beginning of their analysis of Ryan's proposal. However, compare what they do come up with, eventual reduction in the deficit, to the current state which projects the deficit expanding forever.

    However, all of that is irrelevant to my comments about Krugman and Ryan.

    As for your cheery outlook. Well it appears you are assuming that ladder again.



  82. The Zionist is heard from.

    Usually, I do not resort to profanity, but on rare occasion it is pleasing to use it.

    The occasional use of profanity draws attention, as it did allen's, because it is rarely used.

    It is fitting, as it denotes the gravity of the charge, rather than used with abandon, as our two in-house Zionists prefer.

  83. Yeah, I started to "suspect" that by the time I got to the Arch-Duke (btw, what the hell IS an arch-duke?) part. :)

  84. Ruf, I bitch and complain about this stuff because...well...because I like to bitch and complain. I don't let it affect me to the point my blood pressure moves.

    I got no problem with you being fat, dumb, and happy (and I mean that in the best possible way). It's probably the better way to go when there is nothing you can do about it anyway.

    For instance, unless Doug is a super actor, he gets way too excited about this stuff. Needs to re-read and absorb "The Serenity Prayer" again.


  85. shit, all I can say is, I ain't a commie. Really. Truly. I Swear.

  86. Fat, Dum, and Happy?


    I think my cloak of anonymity has been rent. :)

  87. The Cap'n Moonbeam was in reference to DR...

    Neil Diamond