“Soft despotism is a term coined by Alexis de Tocqueville describing the state into which a country overrun by "a network of small complicated rules" might degrade. Soft despotism is different from despotism (also called 'hard despotism') in the sense that it is not obvious to the people."

Thursday, January 27, 2011

January 27 in history

Births for January 27

* 1756 Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart, Austria, musical prodigy/composer (Figaro)

* 1832 Lewis Carroll, (Charles Lutwidge Dodgson), auth (Alice in Wonderland)

* 1859 Wilhelm II, Potsdam, German emperor (1888-1918)

* 1900 Hyman G Rickover, US Admiral (father of modern nuclear navy)

* 1908 William Randolph Hearst Jr, newspaper publisher (Hearst Publishing)

* 1945 Nick Mason, rock drummer (Pink Floyd-The Wall, Money)

* 1948 Mikhail Baryshnikov, Riga Latvia, ballet dancer (That's Dancing)

* 1957 Frank Miller, US, comicbook writer (Batman-The Dark Knight Returns)

* 1964 Bridget Fonda, US, daughter of Peter/actress (Single White Female)

Passings for January 27

* 1967 Edward H White II, astronaut, dies in Apollo I fire

* 1967 Roger B Chaffee, astronaut, dies at 31 in Apollo I fire

* 1967 Virgil I (Gus) Grissom, astronaut, dies at 41 in Apollo I fire

* 1993 Andre the Giant, (Rene Roussimoff), wrestler, dies at 49

Special events for January 27

* 1736 Abdication of Stanislas, last king of Poland

* 1880 Thomas Edison patents electric incandescent lamp

* 1888 National Geographic Society organizes

* 1915 US Marines occupy Haiti

* 1924 Lenin placed in Mausoleum in Red Square

* 1926 1st public demonstration of television, John L Baird, London

* 1926 US Senate agrees to join World Court

* 1927 Harlem Globetrotters play their 1st game

* 1943 1st US air attack on Germany (Wilhelmshafen)

* 1944 Leningrad liberated from Germany in 880 days with 600,000 killed

* 1945 Russia liberates Auschwitz Concentration Camp

* 1948 1st tape recorder sold

* 1964 "Introducing the Beatles" album released in US

* 1965 1st ground station-to-aircraft radio communication via satellite

* 1967 Treaty banning military use of nuclear weapons in space, signed

* 1973 US & Vietnam sign cease-fire, ending longest US war & milt draft

* 1977 Pres Carter pardons most Vietnam War draft evaders (10,000)

* 1992 Mike Tyson goes on trial for rape (he is found guilty)

Songs for date January 27

* 01/27/44 --- Do Nothin' Till You Hear From Me (Ellington, Duke)

* 01/27/44 --- No Love, No Nothin' (Morse, Ella Mae)

* 01/27/50 --- Music! Music! Music! (Brewer, Teresa)

* 01/27/50 --- Quicksilver (Crosby, Bing)

* 01/27/50 --- Chattanoogie Shoe Shine Boy (Crosby, Bing)

* 01/27/58 --- Dede Dinah (Avalon, Frankie)

* 01/27/58 --- Don't (Presley, Elvis)

* 01/27/62 --- Duke Of Earl (Chandler, Gene)

* 01/27/68 --- Bottle Of Wine (Fireballs)

* 01/27/68 --- Love Is Blue (Mauriat, Paul)

* 01/27/68 --- I Wish It Would Rain (Temptations)

* 01/27/73 --- Last Song (Edward Bear)

* 01/27/73 --- Love Train (O'Jays)

* 01/27/79 --- Lady (Little River Band)

* 01/27/79 --- Shake Your Groove Thing (Peaches & Herb)

* 01/27/90 --- C'Mon And Get My Love (D-Mob)

* 01/27/90 --- I Go To Extremes (Joel, Billy)


  1. Now if we can just verify when and where our President was born.

  2. Jan 27 2011, it's just another day for Mel.

  3. How hard is it to produce your birth certificate?

    A much-overlooked comment by Barack Obama is getting a closer examination now that Hawaii Gov. Neil Abercrombie has come up short in his plan to take care of a pressing election 2012 concern for the Democrats by producing Obama's birth certificate from the state's archives.

    The comment, by Obama himself at a 2009 international meeting, suggested he was born seven months earlier than when his official story has claimed all along.

    Freudian slip, misstatement or the truth leaking out?

    It was in April 19, 2009, at a press conference Obama gave at the Port of Spain in Trinidad and Tobago, Obama responded to an hour-long diatribe that had been delivered by Nicaraguan President Daniel Ortega at the meeting the day before, and Obama suggested he was born in January 1961, three months before the Bay of Pigs invasion.

    Specifically, Obama rejected Ortega's attack on the United States for the attempted Bay of Pigs invasion during the Kennedy administration by explaining: "I'm grateful President Ortega did not blame me for things that happened when I was three months old."

    Read more: Questions raised over Obama birth date

  4. Hawaii Gov. Neil Abercrombie said in an interview that a long-form, hospital-generated birth certificate for Barack Obama may not exist within the vital records maintained by the Hawaii Department of Health.

    Abercrombie told the Honolulu Star Advertiser he was searching within the Hawaii Department of Health to find definitive vital records that would prove Obama was born in Hawaii, because the continuing eligibility controversy could hurt the president's chances of re-election in 2012.

    Abercrombie acknowledged the birth certificate issue will have "political implications" for the next presidential election "that we simply cannot have." It has also bee reported that in 1961, Obama's grandparents, Stanley and Madelyn Dunham, could have made an in-person report of a Hawaii birth even if the infant Barack Obama Jr. had been foreign-born.

  5. White poeple still mad that we have a black prez..get over it red-necks!!

  6. People will lie

    The governor says he knew Obama'a parents and he was there when Obama was born.

  7. I was not a birther before the controversy got so big, but now I am 98% there, not quite there but close enough to be one.

    Here is why:

    The original posting of the live birth certificate was by COLB in June of 08' and then again by Fact the following August. The Hawaii Dept. of Health has refused to authenticate these two posts. The American grandparents by law can post or have published any grandchildren births in Hawaii, no matter the actual location the child is born. Mom left Hawaii three weeks after the birth to attend the U of Washington in Seattle. She did not return until June of 62' when Mr. Obama's dad left for Harvard in 1962.

    Tim Adams, the former senior elections clerk for Honolulu in 2008 has been reported as saying that no long-form birth certificate exists. This is the form that has the footprint of the infant and the signatures of the delivering doctors and is always prepared by the hospital that delivered the child.

    Neither Queens Medical Center, or the Kapiolani Medical Center have any such records in their archives, nor any record of any kind as to POTUS being born there.

    Now perhaps he was born at home with a midwife, and someone forgot to get his foot prints and take care of the paperwork...there is an answer and it does not look good for Mr. Obama's 2012 re-election chances with this issue unresolved, and our good Guv in Hawaii says...there may not be a birth certificate.

    All we know about this guy is what Bill Ayres wrote as his ghost writer for the two books about his father and his life.

  8. Hawaii digitized ALL their "Long Forms", they did not save them.

    This has been known, by those that cared, for quite a while, now.

    Mr Obama also said, Deuce, that there were 57 States in the Union.

    He is not a font of factual knowledge, nor a reliable source of reportage on historic realities.

  9. The fact that Neil Abercrombie did not understand how records were maintained, in Hawaii, prior to his ascendancy to the Governorship pretty much SOP for politicos.

    That he made his goal of producing the Long Form public, before discovering that they were unobtainable, a sign of a novice.

  10. Again, I just don't want to believe that our government is so nonchalant about something so serious.

    Why, if this is truly the case, that it has gone on for this long.

  11. There are no records, save for the bytes on the main frame.

    That's how it's done, in Hawaii.
    Cutting edge of the technological revolution, those Hawaiians.

    Brought efficiencies to record keeping, they did. Back in the 70's.

    You need a record, they print it.

  12. I remain very suspicious. It is too easy to put an end to speculation and they do not.

  13. Have some early Valentine's Day candy, Melody. I love a woman with chocolate on her breath.

  14. How you "white poeple" today, still mad?

  15. Do you really think that if BHO was not a US citizen that he could get away with being president for two years?

  16. It may not have been in the 70's, but the law that allowed the destruction of the records allowed for the Governor to "save" documents he felt needed saving. Mr Obama's birth certificate did not warrant the Governors attention, what ever the date of electronic transfer was.

    I do recall reading that Hawaii was being praised for the digitalization of the records, saving the taxpayers huge amounts of taxpayer money.

    Lauded for being on the "cutting edge", they were.

    Paper does not store cheaply, in the humid conditions that prevail, in that Polynesian paradise.

  17. It doesn't make the GOP look very resourceful is they can't produce simple evidence on a man they really didn't want in office in the first place.

  18. Mel, there's no evidence, and Obama is milking it, like judo, to discredit his own detractors.

  19. John Roberts swore him in.

    Who you gonna call?

  20. Well, you just crushed my american dream. I must go shopping now.

    Right after I shovel the 18 inches of snow we got last night.

  21. And T? You would also love a woman with…...

  22. It plays directly to the prejudice card, that there even is a "Birther" movement.

    As Anon exemplifies, for us.

    Hawaiian State officials have testified to the veracity of the electronic record.

    They will continue to do so.
    The records available meet the legal standard, set by the State of Hawaii.

    Full Faith and Credit Clause

    used to refer to Article IV, Section 1 of the United States Constitution, addresses the duties that states within the United States have to respect the "public acts, records, and judicial proceedings" of other states

    That ends the debate, really.

  23. Now if someone were to follow bob's lead on "Natural Born", there may be a way to go.

    But I think that if there really was, that is where the posse would be heading, not following the false leads of disappearing documents.

  24. T, I follow your lead with the name personalization.

  25. Why is Hawaii even on of the States of the United States of America?

    It is not even in the Americas.

    Mexico, Costa Rica and Canada are all more American than Hawaii.

  26. I had a dream last night that I was in a public restroom. There weren't any doors on any of the stalls. I was trying to go to the bathroom and kept yelling for someone to shut the main door. No one would. The crowds kept pouring in to watch me go. I kept yelling to my daughter to please some shut the door. She wouldn't.

    I woke up in a very disturbing way…At 5:30.

  27. Reuters - ‎

    SUEZ, Egypt Jan 27 (Reuters) - Egyptians torched a police post in the eastern city of Suez early on Thursday morning over the killing of protesters in anti-government demonstrations earlier in the week, a witness said.

    Is Egypt stumbling towards democracy or anarchy?

    That democracy movement we started, in the Islamic Arc, full of unintended consequences, aye.

  28. Well worthy of the trillion dollar investment we've made in it.

    I am sure some one will tell us that.

  29. Good thing, though, that Charlie Cji-cap was able to loan US the money for the effort.

  30. Better that we borrow from the Chinese rather than just create more dollars.

    Wait, we're doing that, too.

    The Federal Reserve, acknowledging a slow recovery and stubbornly high unemployment, decided Wednesday to proceed with its plans to buy as much as $600 billion in long-term Treasury bonds as it awaits a stronger pickup in growth.

    The decision was unanimous, marking the first meeting of the policy-making Federal Open Market Committee without a dissenting vote since December 2009.

  31. Inspired by Tunisia and Egypt, Yemenis join in anti-government protests

    Washington Post -

    SANAA, YEMEN - Thousands of Yemenis took the streets Thursday demanding an end to the government of President Ali Abdullah Saleh, who has ruled this impoverished Middle Eastern nation for more than three decades.

  32. The Legacy of Carter/Reagan/Bush/Clinton/Bush:
    The end of secular Muslim states.

  33. Baghdad (CNN) --

    A wave of bombings left 40 people dead and dozens wounded Thursday in different Baghdad neighborhoods, the Interior Ministry said.

    At least 37 people were killed and 78 others wounded when a parked car bomb detonated near a funeral tent in the predominantly Shiite neighborhood of Shula in northwestern Baghdad.

    That sweet smell of victory!

    Still say we'd have been better off, wasting the money away in Margaritaville.

  34. The hangover would not be as painful.

  35. Carter abandoned the Shah, Reagan loved the Mujahideen, Clinton rescued the Muslims in former Yugo from the Christians, and the creme de la crappe of Iraq and Afghanistan.

  36. Islam is our ally, Deuce.

    I've been saying that for quite a while now.

    Proof is in the tasting.
    What a pudding we've concocted, in a bi-partisan manner.

  37. And Condie Rice thought it would be a good idea to resettle the Palestnians in South America.

    As departed Red would say,
    "What could possibly go wrong?"

  38. T:
    How, when and where are these remittances collected?

    24 Overseas Filipinos' Remittances

    By Country, By Source

    for the Periods Indicated

    in Thousand U.S. Dollars

  39. Getting the Soviets out of Afghanistan must be one of our worst moves of the 20th Century.

  40. desert rat said...

    "Hawaii digitized ALL their "Long Forms", they did not save them.

    This has been known, by those that cared, for quite a while, now.


    No shit, and that ain't Shinola.

  41. ⚢ Teresita ☯ said...

    "Mel, there's no evidence, and Obama is milking it, like judo, to discredit his own detractors."

    All it takes is useful idiots, and we've got them.

  42. MeLoDy said...

    "I had a dream last night that I was in a public restroom. There weren't any doors on any of the stalls. I was trying to go to the bathroom and kept yelling for someone to shut the main door. No one would. The crowds kept pouring in to watch me go. I kept yelling to my daughter to please some shut the door. She wouldn't.

    I woke up in a very disturbing way…At 5:30.


    Where's Bob when we need him?

  43. desert rat said...

    "Why is Hawaii even on of the States of the United States of America?

    It is not even in the Americas.

    Mexico, Costa Rica and Canada are all more American than Hawaii.


    Up yours, Cowboy!

  44. I'm not sure which one was more disturbing that one or the one from the other night.

    I was driving in a car with an unknown man. All of a sudden my red toe nails were a disgustingly 12 inches long. That dream I woke up in a cold sweat.

  45. The 442nd distinguished itstelf in WWII.

    What did South "America" do besides provide refuge for Nazi War Criminals?

  46. Answer: piss in the forest, like fisherwomen, and don't paint your toenails.

  47. MLD:

    I suggest you quit downing a fifth of Jim Beam prior to retiring!

    ...or Ambien, if you're popping those, also

  48. Also, check your upper sheet at the foot of your bed.

  49. And don't even suggest the 12 inches has anything to do with a phallic symbol.

  50. If it's shredded,
    it wasn't a dream.

  51. Fuck…Now I have to go pedicure my toes.

  52. Your toenails were growing
    Despite the heat
    From the unknown man
    Which is a way of saying
    Spirituality grows from the feet
    From contact with the earthen soil

  53. I suggest you go to a professional

  54. Doug, Miss Fely writes a check at our nearest Sari-sari store, then she calls her mother, or siblings, and they either pick them up at the bank or get it delivered by courier.

  55. So the Govt doesn't get any of it?

  56. Those symbols render as shit on Microsuckware IE 7

  57. Correct.
    How does Firefox render them?

  58. I think I'm gonna try Chrome 'cause of all the cloud based stuff Google has come up with.

  59. Doug, the government gets to be nosy. When Miss F goes over $20,000 a year, she has to produce documents that prove she's not funding the Qaeda.

  60. Doug, the symbol to the left of my name is a double-woman symbol, and to the right is Yin-Yang. I can almost make out the Yin-Yang on Windoze.

  61. Google's gotta be more organized than me, so maybe it'll bring some order to my life.

    Been a long time since I had that.

  62. Or perhaps I may suggest
    And this is my last and best
    You grew your toenails to protect
    From the unknown man in the car
    And you are on a quest
    To find out who you really are

  63. ⚢ Teresita ☯ said...
    Doug, the government gets to be nosy. When Miss F goes over $20,000 a year, she has to produce documents that prove she's not funding the Qaeda.


    But the Phillipine Govt gets zero?

  64. Why are you running 7 instead of 8, or 9 beta?

    ...I'm running 7 cause that's what I had when I became busy doing other things.

  65. ...I've got Opera, but Opera isn't as Blogger friendly as IE, so so far I've stuck to standard issue crapware.

  66. ...and I like the interface better than 8.

  67. Big deal coming down the pike is California and Illinois.
    ...followed by others.

  68. Doug, of course I run Linux at home, but here where I "work" I have to run Windows and IE7.

  69. ...but the Phillipine Govt gets Zero?

  70. No Doug, there's no taxes on incoming remittances. They are happy to see the dollars come in. If they taxed them, the Philippines would resemble Bangledesh.

  71. Sure miss that "sod off" Bangledeshi that used to hector us @ BC.

    How he could crow now!

  72. heh heh,

    kinda funny reading you birthers go on, and on. Howling at the moon.

    In all seriousness do any of you really think there is a chance in hell that Obama will be turfed?

    Deuce wrote:

    "We probably earned ten times that amount in technological spinoff's and got ripped off for most of it by the Chinese."

    I'm trying to wrap my head around these concepts. Who is the "we" the earned the spinoffs - America?? Corporations made use of the knowledge and made the "spinoffs". In this context what is it the Chinese are ripping off? Is it somehow different from what the Corporations ripped off?

  73. The Mexican govt gets taxes on "remittances" there.

    Not sure how.

  74. Activists slammed Hilary Clinton’s remarks describing Egypt’s government as “stable and looking for ways to respond to the legitimate needs and interests of the Egyptian people.” A picture of an empty tear gas canister circulated, the zoom focusing in on ‘Made in USA’.

    That 30 years of hush money to "balance" the money we gave Israel is gonna bite us in the ass.

  75. Also, if that is the case, T, how does anyone know the amounts, in order to compile a list of remittances like the one at my link above?

  76. I heard Hosni Mubarak fled the country.

    ...on the radio, but haven't seen it anywher else.

  77. Rest assured the US govt knows exactly how much is leaving, and the RP knows exactly how much is coming. They only time they don't know is when I go there with big wads of Benjamins in my pockets.

  78. Are you suggesting the Govt is spying on us with the Banks help?

  79. Amazing!

    The "arbitrage" between Brent Crude and WTI is up to $11.70.

    Inasmuch as WTI normally sells for a $1.50 Premium to Brent, and you're looking at a $13.20/bbl deviation from the norm.

    My "can't miss" trade? Busted.

  80. is kinda hard to imagine tracking 200 dollar checks to aunti Mercado.

  81. Rufus
    Thu Jan 27, 09:46:00 AM EST

    Buy nickels!

    Can't miss,
    for real.

  82. Doug, a few more of these "can't miss" trades, and I'll be "floatin' down the Mississippi"

    wifout a boat.

    much less a "paddle."

  83. ...and Larsen continues to profit.

  84. A guy we sold our farm to gave me great advice when I asked him what to do w/the money.

    I followed his advice, if we had stuck to it we'd be independently wealthy.

    ...wife had other ideas.

  85. Deuce wrote:

    "We probably earned ten times that amount in technological spinoff's and got ripped off for most of it by the Chinese."

    I'm trying to wrap my head around these concepts. Who is the "we" the earned the spinoffs - America?? Corporations made use of the knowledge and made the "spinoffs". In this context what is it the Chinese are ripping off? Is it somehow different from what the Corporations ripped off?

    I'll go a little slower, maybe I wrote that under the influence of a third cup of coffee:

    The spinoff benefits to the American economy due to the technological boost from the space race to the moon is hard to calculate, but it is probably every bit as dramatic as the heisted gold and silver from the Americas to Colonial Spain. Any commercial use of the technology by US companies for domestic use or US exports ends up as taxable ordinary income up and down the food chain. I would wager that the government drew back 10x the invested amount in NASA in tax revenue.

    I don't have to explain the Chinese penchant for ripping off technology and intellectual property do I?

  86. One thing BHO had right in his speech was that we didn't know some things we needed to know to get to the moon when we made that commitment.
    (I think he said that)

    My highschool buddy who became a rocket scientist at Lockheed related that fact at the time and how they gamed the system to get to the goal.

  87. ...making plans based on things that had yet to be figured out.

  88. If the 'spin-off' is copyrighted/patented then the Corporation would have ripped it off as well. I don't have any recollection of the proprietary information being formally given to a particular corporation but rather the knowledge gained was in public realm. I certainly could be wrong here but I am unaware of any info at the time of sputnik being patented and transferred to US corporation only.

    I also am finding it hard to view Corporations being particularly nationalistic. They trade on various countries exchanges but they don't seem too patriotic. They pursue profit and are largely couldn't give a hoot about any particular nation. Chinese companies, on the other hand, do have strong nationalistic ties. They essentially are government entities.

  89. The transfer of CRITICAL ICBM technology from one of Clinton's crony capitalists to China is well known and documented.

    Technology that took years and thousands of rocket failures to achieve.

  90. "the knowledge gained was in public realm."

    The ICBM knowledge was a National Security Secret.

    ...until it was sold to the Chi-Coms.

  91. Doug, I worked with a group of communications engineers involving Hughes and Raytheon on a small technical communications problem.

    My expertise was in over-the-horizon radar systems so I had a fair knowledge on very stable oscillators and ultra sensitive receivers.

    On one particular problem, NASA scientists figured there were ten possible ways that could lead to a possible solution to the problem. NASA funded all ten, just in case.

  92. I think that was Hughes that helped the Chinese.

  93. First it was Tunis; Today Cairo. Sanaa is restless. Is Damascus next ?

    Will the entire Arab world be gripped by a general uprising of the people, ending in liberation from the authoritarian regimes in power and democracy or will they end one vote-one time controlled by an Islamist fifth column?

  94. I'll take Doug over Deuce this time!

  95. Try: LORAL

    Doral was (is?) a cigarette.

  96. "Obama v. Hoover
    Here's a fun, if frightening, one today from David Rosenberg. The chief economist at Gluskin Sheff + Associates notes striking similarities in comments by President Barack Obama and Herbert Hoover, the U.S. president who was king of the Great Depression and who even had a city named after him: Hooverville.

    A colleague collected the comments and sent them to Mr. Rosenberg, who says "it blew me away."

    Obama, State of the Union, Tuesday:

    "Two years after the worst recession most of us have ever known, the stock market has come roaring back. Corporate profits are up. The economy is growing again."

    Hoover, to U.S. Chamber of Commerce, May, 1930:

    “While the crash only took place six months ago, I am convinced we have now passed the worst and with continued unity of effort we shall rapidly recover.”

    Obama, State of the Union:

    “Thanks to the tax cuts we passed, Americans’ paychecks are a little bigger today. Every business can write off the full cost of the new investments they make this year. These steps, taken by Democrats and Republicans, will grow the economy and add to the more than one million private sector jobs created last year.”

    Hoover, campaign speech, October, 1932:

    “It can be demonstrated that the tide has turned and that the gigantic forces of depression are today in retreat. Our measures and policies have demonstrated their effectiveness. They have preserved the American people from certain chaos. They have preserved a final fortress of stability in the world.”

    Obama, State of the Union:

    “But now that the worst of the recession is over...”

    Hoover, to a delegation looking for a public works project, June, 1930:

    “Gentlemen, you have come 60 days too late. The depression is over.”

    Obama, State of the Union:

    “The steps we’ve taken over the last two years may have broken the back of this recession…”

    Hoover, State of the Union, December, 1932:

    “The unprecedented emergency measures enacted and policies adopted undoubtedly saved the country from economic disaster…”

    Hoovervilles, of course, were the names of the shantytowns that sprang up during the Depression. There was, in late 2009, some controversy over a tent city in Colorado Springs that, for a short while, sported a banner stating "Welcome To Obamaville: Colorado's Fastest-Growing Community."

  97. Okay, so you remember me telling you about the Christmas party crashing that I was invited to six weeks ago. Did I mention what happened the moment I sat down before I had even had my first drink? Well, to bad.

    My friend and I were sitting at the table waiting patiently for the drink we had just ordered and along came friend #3.

    As she is sat down next to my friend she accidentally knocked over a whole glass of water. My friend jumped up, and as I turned my head from talking to another friend, I saw the water rushing across the table, heading for my lap.

    Not having a drink yet my reflexes were right on cue. I jumped up out of my chair somehow hooking my foot around the leg. I lost my balance, the chair hurled five feet in the air and came crashing down on the top of my foot.

    I thought it was fractured. It was sore for days. The bruise faded and I went on with life as usual.

    Until a couple of weeks ago when the top of my foot became very tender to touch and the bruise came back. But I could walk and I could stand on it. Then a few days ago things seemed a little worse. So, I had it x-rayed yesterday and today found out everything is fine. It's just a very bad bruise to the bone which will take a long time to heal.

    I worried there for a minute. Even a slight fracture would have deterred me from coleslaw wrestling in Daytona. ( :

  98. Melody: worried there for a minute. Even a slight fracture would have deterred me from coleslaw wrestling in Daytona. ( :

    Doug might want to watch that, if it's "Women's T-shirt Cole Slaw Wrestling" you're talking about.

  99. Only if it is Brussel Sprout Slaw.

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