“Soft despotism is a term coined by Alexis de Tocqueville describing the state into which a country overrun by "a network of small complicated rules" might degrade. Soft despotism is different from despotism (also called 'hard despotism') in the sense that it is not obvious to the people."

Friday, November 06, 2009

Dying for political correctness, dictated by the Pentagon. Why is Nidal Malik Hasan a US Army Officer?

UPDATE: FORT HOOD, Texas — The base commander at Fort Hood says soldiers who witnessed a shooting rampage that left 13 people dead reported that the gunman shouted "Allahu Akbar!" before opening fire at the Texas post.
Lt. Gen. Robert Cone told NBC's "Today" show on Friday that suspected shooter, Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan, made the comment, which is Arabic for "God is great!" before the rampage Thursday that also left 30 people wounded.
Military officials say they are still piecing together what may have pushed Hasan, an Army psychiatrist trained to help soldiers in distress, to turn on his comrades.

The Army is shocked. Done in by one of their own. CNN has released a video of Major Nidal Malik Hasan, a U.S. Army psychiatrist, "Army of One", in a 711 the morning of the Army's 911. Just an ordinary real American army officer paid for by all of us dumb American bigots that just don't get it. Well I fucking get it and so do you. The problems is that our rulers and masters do not.

Listen up assholes: There is such a thing as a real American. Honestly gee, if an army major walks around dressed like a Bedouin in Texas, he may just not be buying into the American thing. Now here is a real shocker for you:

There is a concept developed over hundreds of thousand of generations called US and THEM. Them ain't us and all the wishing and hoping will never change it and if you and your masters and rulers do not get that, then you and us will continue to die at the hands of them. Capiche?


Jihad at Fort Hood – by Robert Spencer
Front Page

Major Nidal Malik Hasan, a U.S. Army psychiatrist, murdered twelve people and wounded twenty-one inside Fort Hood in Texas yesterday, while, according to eyewitnesses, “shouting something in Arabic while he was shooting.” Investigators are scratching their heads and expressing puzzlement about why he did it. According to NPR, “the motive behind the shootings was not immediately clear, officials said.” The Washington Post agreed: “The motive remains unclear, although some sources reported the suspect is opposed to U.S. involvement in Afghanistan and Iraq and upset about an imminent deployment.” The Huffington Post spun faster, asserting that “there is no concrete reporting as to whether Nidal Malik Hasan was in fact a Muslim or an Arab.”

Yet there was, and what’s more, Major Hasan’s motive was perfectly clear — but it was one that the forces of political correctness and the Islamic advocacy groups in the United States have been working for years to obscure. So it is that now that another major jihad terror attack has taken place on American soil, authorities and the mainstream media are at a loss to explain why it happened – and the abundant evidence that it was a jihad attack is ignored.

Nidal Malik Hasan was born in Virginia but didn’t think of himself as an American: on a form he filled out at the Muslim Community Center in Silver Spring, Maryland, he gave his nationality not as “American” but as “Palestinian.” A mosque official found that curious, saying: “I don’t know why he listed Palestinian. He was not born in Palestine.”

He is a graduate of Virginia Tech and has a doctorate in psychiatry from the Uniformed Services University of the Health Sciences. While there, NPR reports, Hasan was “put on probation early in his postgraduate work” and was “disciplined for proselytizing about his Muslim faith with patients and colleagues.”

He was a staff psychiatrist at Walter Reed Army Medical Center for six years before transferring to Fort Hood earlier this year. While at Walter Reed, he was a “very devout” member of and daily visitor to the Muslim Community Center in Silver Spring. Faizul Khan, a former imam at the Center, expressed puzzlement over Hasan’s murders: “To know something like this happened, I don’t know what got into his mind. There was nothing extremist in his questions. He never showed any frustration….He never showed any remorse or wish for vengeance on anybody.”

So he identified himself as Palestinian and was a devout Muslim – so what? These things, of course, have no significance if one assumes that Islam is a Religion of Peace and that when a devout Muslim reads the Koran’s many injunctions to wage war against unbelievers, he knows that they have no force or applicability for today’s world. Unfortunately, all too many Muslims around the world demonstrate in both their words and their deeds that they take such injunctions quite seriously. And Nidal Hasan gave some indications that he may have been among them.

On May 20, 2009, a man giving his name as “NidalHasan” posted this defense of suicide bombing (all spelling and grammar as it is in the original):

There was a grenade thrown amongs a group of American soldiers. One of the soldiers, feeling that it was to late for everyone to flee jumped on the grave with the intention of saving his comrades. Indeed he saved them. He inentionally took his life (suicide) for a noble cause i.e. saving the lives of his soldier. To say that this soldier committed suicide is inappropriate. Its more appropriate to say he is a brave hero that sacrificed his life for a more noble cause. Scholars have paralled this to suicide bombers whose intention, by sacrificing their lives, is to help save Muslims by killing enemy soldiers. If one suicide bomber can kill 100 enemy soldiers because they were caught off guard that would be considered a strategic victory. Their intention is not to die because of some despair. The same can be said for the Kamikazees in Japan. They died (via crashing their planes into ships) to kill the enemies for the homeland. You can call them crazy i you want but their act was not one of suicide that is despised by Islam. So the scholars main point is that “IT SEEMS AS THOUGH YOUR INTENTION IS THE MAIN ISSUE” and Allah (SWT) knows best.

Of course, it may not be the same Nidal Hasan. But there is more. One of his former colleagues, Col. Terry Lee, recalled Hasan saying statements to the effect of “Muslims have the right to rise up against the U.S. military”; “Muslims have a right to stand up against the aggressors”; and even speaking favorably about people who “strap bombs on themselves and go into Times Square.”
Maybe he just snapped, perhaps under the pressure of his imminent deployment to Iraq. But it’s noteworthy that if he did, he snapped in exactly the same way that several other Muslims in the U.S. military have snapped in the past. In April 2005, a Muslim serving in the U.S. Army, Hasan Akbar, was convicted of murder for killing two American soldiers and wounding fourteen in a grenade attack in Kuwait. AP reported: “Prosecutors say Akbar told investigators he launched the attack because he was concerned U.S. troops would kill fellow Muslims in Iraq. They said he coolly carried out the attack to achieve ‘maximum carnage’ on his comrades in the 101st Airborne Division.”

And Hasan’s murderous rampage resembles one that five Muslim men in New Jersey tried to carry out at Fort Dix in New Jersey in 2007, when they plotted to enter the U.S. Army base and murder as many soldiers as they could.

That was a jihad plot. One of the plotters, Serdar Tatar, told an FBI informant late in 2006: “I’m gonna do it….It doesn’t matter to me, whether I get locked up, arrested, or get taken away, it doesn’t matter. Or I die, doesn’t matter, I’m doing it in the name of Allah.” Another plotter, Mohamad Shnewer, was caught on tape saying, “They are the ones, we are going to put bullets in their heads, Allah willing.”

Nidal Hasan’s statements about Muslims rising up against the U.S. military aren’t too far from that, albeit less graphic. The effect of ignoring or downplaying the role that Islamic beliefs and assumptions may have played in his murders only ensures that – once again – nothing will be done to prevent the eventual advent of the next Nidal Hasan.


  1. Did I forget to mention? Get out. Leave them alone. It is their problem, let them figure it out, and after that, if they need to spill American blood, find them, kill them and go home.

  2. How can we be sure they mean it when they say they want us dead?

    Why does everything turn to shit when logic is turned on it's head, and down is declared to be up?

    Why can't we all get along?

    Life is such a puzzle!

  3. Why is Hasan in the United States at all?

    Posted by: Hostile Knowledge
    Nov 06, 12:33 AM Report Abuse

    Make no mistake. Islam is in the White House.

    Posted by: Hostile Knowledge
    Nov 06, 12:46 AM Report Abuse

    Army Major Played Role in Presidential Transition
    Incredibly, it appears that Maj. Malik Nidal Hasan, the alleged shooter in the massacre that resulted in at least 12 dead and 31 wounded at Fort Hood today, served on the Homeland Security Policy Institute’s presidential transition task force between April 2008 and January 2009 when Barack Obama was inaugurated as the nation’s 44th president.

    Islam is in the White House.


    I'm one of those that has thought for a long time we ought to kick all the moslems out of the United States, on the grounds that their aim is to rid us of the Constitution and our western ways.

    Incidents like this always bring me back to that old theme.

    Our founders were far seeing fellows, but didn't, couldn't really, given the nature of their times, foresee this pickle.

    We'd save ourselves a lot of trouble.

  4. Say: Obey Allah and the Apostle; but if they turn back, then surely Allah does not love the unbelievers. (Koran,3:32)

    O you who believe! Obey Allah and His Apostle and do not turn back from Him while you hear. (Koran, 8:20)

    O you who believe! fight those of the unbelievers who are near to you and let them find in you hardness; and know that Allah is with those who guard (against evil). (Koran, 9:123)

    O Prophet! strive hard against the unbelievers and the hypocrites, and be hard against them; and their abode is hell; and evil is the resort. (Koran, 66:9)

    Saed had been right about taking prisoners after the battle: take no prisoners until Islam has made all submit. They were to forget the ransom and the money, Mohammed said, because submission of the non-believers was all that mattered. (Sira:Ishaq:484 - Mohammed and the Unbelievers: A Political Life, Center for the Study of Political Islam, 2006, p.71)

    And fight with them until there is no persecution, and religion should be only for Allah, but if they desist, then there should be no hostility except against the oppressors. (Koran, 2:193)

    Previously revealed religions were valid in their own eras, as is attested to by many verses of the Holy Koran, but were abrogated by the universal message of Islam as is equally attested to by many verses of the Koran.

    ...It is unbelief (kufr) to hold that the remnant cults now bearing the names of formerly valid religions, such as "Christianity" or "Judaism," are acceptable to Allah Most High after He has sent the final Messenger (Allah bless him and give him peace) to the entire world. (Reliance of the Traveller, w4.0(2))

    Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued. (Koran:9:29)

    You will find others who desire that they should be safe from you and secure from their own people; as often as they are sent back to the mischief they get thrown into it headlong; therefore if they do not withdraw from you, and (do not) offer you peace and restrain their hands, then seize them and kill them wherever you find them; and against these We have given you a clear authority. (Koran, 4:91)

    Narrated Abu Huraira: Allah 's Apostle said, "I have been ordered to fight with the people till they say, 'None has the right to be worshipped but Allah,' and whoever says, 'None has the right to be worshipped but Allah,' his life and property will be saved by me except for Islamic law, and his accounts will be with Allah, (either to punish him or to forgive him.)" (Bukhari, Hadith, Volume 4, Book 52, Number 196)

    Warfare is ordained for you, though it is hateful unto you; but it may happen that ye hate a thing which is good for you, and it may happen that ye love a thing which is bad for you. Allah knoweth, ye know not. (Koran, 2:216)

  5. 43. herb:

    Back in the day, and maybe still, there was a program in the nuclear Navy that constantly observed the behavior of all the sailors involved in that part of the fleet.
    It was designed to keep the creeps out of the scary parts of the system. It may be time to lay that on our islamic ‘brethren’. Particularly those in the armed services.

    46. Rock said...

    @43. herb,

    That would be profiling. See post #18. You’d rather get caught screwing the pooch than profiling.

  6. Welcome to our world. We have to live beside thousands of psychopaths like Major Hasan, while hearing daily from those who wouldn't know a jihadi from a gerrymander about giving just a bit more for the sake of world peace. Well, for those like Major Hasan, there is no peace for us other than the grave. You all do as you please, but for me and mine, NEVER AGAIN!

    Mark this: When the facts are finally known in all their sickening clarity, it will be found that our Army security folks were running around shooting blanks because some commander didn't want to risk friendly fire incidents on his watch. It will also be discovered that Major Hasan, a field grade officer within a very select occupation, had displayed proclivities known all the way up the chain-of-command, but was permitted his liberty because his commanders feared the complaint of political incorrectness. One day, cities of the West will burn for the sake of "peace, peace" and CYA.

  7. 'ARE YOU A U.S. CITIZEN?': Senate Dems block census US-citizenship question...

    WASHINGTON – Senate Democrats have blocked a GOP attempt to require next year's census forms to ask people whether they are a U.S. citizen.

    The proposal by Louisiana Republican Sen. David Vitter was aimed at excluding immigrants from the population totals that are used to figure the number of congressional representatives for each state. Critics said Vitter's plan would discourage immigrants from responding to the census and would be hugely expensive. They also said that it's long been settled law that the apportionment of congressional seats is determined by the number of people living in each state, regardless of whether they are citizens. A separate survey already collects the data.
    Why would asking one question be "hugely expensive"?

  8. 18. Right Wing Realist said...


    1. In 1968 Bobby Kennedy was shot and killed by:

    a. Superman
    b. Jay Leno
    c. Harry Potter
    d. A Muslim male extremist between the ages of 17 and 40

    2. In 1972 at the Munich Olympics, athletes were kidnapped and massacred by :

    a. Olga Corbett
    b. Sitting Bull
    c. Arnold Schwarzenegger
    d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

    3. In 1979, the US embassy in Iran was taken over by:

    a. Lost Norwegians
    b. Elvis
    c. A tour bus full of 80-year-old women
    d . Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

    4. During the 1980’s a number of Americans were kidnapped in Lebanon by:

    a. John Dillinger
    b. The King of Sweden
    c. The Boy Scouts
    d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

    5. In 1983, the US Marine barracks in Beirut was blown up by:

    a. A pizza delivery boy
    b. Pee Wee Herman
    c. Geraldo Rivera
    d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

    6. In 1985 the cruise ship Achille Lauro was hijacked and a 70 year old American passenger was murdered and thrown overboard in his wheelchair

    a. The Smurfs
    b. Davey Jones
    c. The Little Mermaid
    d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

    7. In 1985 TWA flight 847 was hijacked at Athens , and a US Navy diver trying to rescue passengers was murdered by:

    a. Captain Kidd
    b. Charles Lindberg
    c. Mother Teresa
    d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

    8. In 1988, Pan Am Flight 103 was bombed by:

    a. Scooby Doo
    b. The Tooth Fairy
    c. The Sundance Kid
    d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

    9. In 1993 the World Trade Center was bombed the first time by:

    a. Richard Simmons
    b. Grandma Moses
    c. Michael Jordan
    d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

    10. In 1998, the US embassiesin Kenya and Tanzania were bombed by:

    a. Mr. Rogers
    b. Hillary Clinton, to distract attention from Wild Bill’s women problems
    c. The World Wrestling Federation
    d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

    11. On 9/11/01, four airliners were hijacked; two were used as missiles to take out the World Trade Centers and of the remaining two, one crashed into the US Pentagon and the other was diverted and crashed by the passengers. Thousands of people were killed by:

    a. Bugs Bunny, Wiley E. Coyote, Daffy Duck and Elmer Fudd
    b. The Supreme Court of Florida
    c. Mr. Bean
    d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

    12. In 2002 the United States fought a war in Afghanistan against:

    a. Enron
    b. The Lutheran Church
    c. The NFL
    d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

    13. In 2002 reporter Daniel Pearl was kidnapped and murdered by:

    a. Bonnie and Clyde
    b. Captain Kangaroo
    c. Billy Graham
    d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

    No, I really don’t see a pattern here to justify profiling, do
    you Ft. Hood?

  9. Doug, where's a link to that quiz, that's Tweetable!

  10. It is up:

  11. I posted Doug's test on the previous post.

  12. Now the family of the good major says people harassed him. The MSM chattering nebos countered that no lower or higher ranking soldier would harass a major....hmmmm

    Tjen we see the video of the major in what does not appear to be the uniform of the day.

    The good major walked around in a sheet and towel salaam alaikum'ing . Maybe they didn't notice the gold oak leaf.

  13. Do you have to salute a major dressed in sack cloth?

  14. For the fella to have been a Major, he'd been an Army man for quite a while.

    Tough to blame Obama, for that, fellas.

    If he was assigned to the Presidential transition team, in some manner, that was an Army decision, not one made by Obama.

    That we have radical Abrahamics in the military, that goes without saying. Just as we have radical newo-Nazis there, too.

    I believe that the second most horrendous terror attack was made by a white US citizen that was an Army veteran.
    Let the profiling begin.

    Then there was the Holocaust Memorial attacker, a white senior citizen and US military veteran.
    Let the profiling begin.

    Mohammed and Malvo, Mohammed a US Army veteran.
    Let the profiling begin.

    In domestic terror cases, better we'd be profiling US Army veterans, than foreign Abrahamics.

  15. This Major, another Army man, seals the deal.

    The US military, is a training ground for terrorists.
    Let the profiling begin.

  16. Fri Nov 06, 07:09:00 AM EST
    List is a little longer than yours.

    For DR, profiling is always wrong, even when it saves lives.

  17. Who is blaming Obama for Major Hasan's Army "career"? This has nothing to do with Obama, per se; It's the system stupid! This is what happens when toy poodles rather than Rotties are placed in charge of guarding the nation's perimeter.

  18. "Alahua Akbar" must mean
    "I'm an Army Veteran"

  19. Ignoring Rat...

    It aint rocket science...

    Yes there are crazies in the Army...

    However look at most terrorist attacks and one can only conclude......

  20. An Army veteran is NOT a commissioned officer of the United States. Moreover, the veteran was not placed in the highly sensitive job of reorienting PTSD suffers. Just to be clear, Major Hasan was also not a cabbage, although cabbage does give gas to veterans and non-veterans alike.

  21. Loved the quiz, well studied and well stated.

    This just occurred to me. I am sure is actions were motivated by his pending deployment...not because it drove him crazier, but because this was his best opportunity to kill the most people in his act of jihad. He had an abundance of unarmed victims at Ft. Hood. If he had been deployed, it would have been a lot more difficult and there would have been more armed soldiers around.

    Now we wait to see who among the media will confirm that, if it looks like a horse, sound like a horse, and smells like a horse: it's a horse. I predict Fox.

  22. I suspect that the reason this guy slipped through the cracks had a lot to do with the PC interpretation of regulations by the brass at Ft. Hood. Likewise, when the investigation is complete, someone will likely be scapegoated for letting the situation reach this point. Profiling is a good thing except in our PC world.

    However, I also suspect at the end of the day they will find that Hasan is merely another nut job who happened to be muslim.

    The guy is one sick puppy and in his warped mind probably thought of himself as a victim.

    He didn't like US foreign policy? (Well most of the people at the EB don't like US foreign policy.)

    He was given an unsatisfactory rating. In his mind, he probably figured it was predjudice.

    After spending a fortune on the guy's education and promoting him to major, the military had the audacity to try to deploy him. I'm sure he thought it was patently unfair.

    The guy was a loose cannon who should have been stopped not promoted, but I doubt he was a terrorist. Just another "victim" in our increasingly PC world.

    As for the tick list that was posted, post hoc ergo propter hoc.

    Crime on US military bases although growing rapidly in the 2006-2008 timeframe is much less than in the general population; however, in a population of 40,000 at Ft. Hood I imagine you have more than a few nuts walking around. If I were to google it, I suspect I could also find a number of murder cases in the US military that did not involve muslims. (I recall one from earlier this year where a sergeant killed five of his fellow troops at a hospital in Iraq).

    The assault at Ford Hood is a tragedy for the victims and their families, and I suspect Hasan will eventually be executed for it; however, from what I've seen so far it doesn't seem to have much to do with his religion.

    I could be wrong.

  23. Rhatt

    I bet your ass gets sore sitting on that fence rail all the time. Would you care to define "Abrahamic" for me? I may be one. It will help me decide if I need to be offended or not. Thank you in advance.

    I watched the news this morning for over an hour, and not once did I hear the talking heads mention he was muslim. What chicken shits.

  24. A politician will do anything for a "vote."

    A Colonel will do anything for a "Star." A general will do anything for "another star."

    Thus, we have "major raghead."

  25. But, we're going to win those Afghani Muslims over with kindness, and logic. Right?

  26. I think I recall reading there have been at least 70-80 suicides at Hood in the last 6-7 years.

  27. 10/yr from a population of 50,000 young people under incredible stress? Probably not a record.

  28. That would be 0.0002 of the population, annually.

  29. Probably half of those were really "offed" by their sweet li'l darlins.

  30. 10.2% Unemployment Rate. Highest since 1983. This sucker could go to 11%, easily.

  31. Probably won't; but, hell, anything's possible, now.

  32. Of course, the muzzie in the White House, spent a few minutes joking with the crowd before he got around to making his "serious" statement regarding the "horrific tragedy."

  33. Rufus makes a great point. How are we going to win hearts and minds in Afghanistan and Iraq when we can't win them with a US officer with the rank of a major?

  34. 10.2% Unemployment, and Oil is still at $78.50 Barrel.

    There might Not be enough oil to bring us out of Recession (and, keep us out.)

  35. We sent that muzzie asshole to med school. Full ride. He came out a major with a $100,000.00/yr income.

  36. Mr. Hasan could have become Major Hasan in the course of a day's paperwork. The Medical Corps is a different breed of cat, where scarcity can bring rank upon entry.

    Did his "religion" play a part in his behavior? Surely, not! Just another Army Major, MD, gone off the reservation because of travel plans.

  37. rufus,

    The Major's base pay, even with 40 years service, would have come nowhere near $100,000 per year. However, his $1mil education was at taxpayer expense and his annual bonuses could have pushed his salary to well OVER $100,000 per year.

  38. Here is the army mentality:

    Sikh doctor gets Army OK to serve with turban

    Associated Press Writer
    More News

    The U.S. Army will make an exception to a decades-old rule and allow a Sikh doctor to serve without removing his turban and cutting his hair, an advocacy group said Friday.

    Capt. Kamaljeet Singh Kalsi is the first Sikh to be allowed to go on active duty with a turban, beard and unshorn hair in more than 20 years, according to the New York-based Sikh Coalition.

  39. For the refutation of "Abrahamic" religions (having recently displaced Zoromastery) or the primacy of racial purity in predeterministic human behavior, see: Dostoyevsky's "Brothers Karamazov".

  40. "Rufus makes a great point. How are we going to win hearts and minds in Afghanistan and Iraq when we can't win them with a US officer with the rank of a major?

    I would agree although possibly not for the reasons Rufus would give. You have mentioned the blood and treasure the US has invested in Iraq many times 2164th; however, what rarely gets mentioned anymore is the price Iraq has paid.

    Estimates of Iraqi dead range anywhere from 100,000 to 600,000. At the height of the conflict, there where in excess of 2,000,000 refugees that fled out of the cities and to surrounding countries (Syria, Jordon, Iran, et al).

    We don't have any friends in Iraq only clients.

    Afganistan has it's own unique problems but it would be naive to base our foreign policy there on the assumption that everything will turn out fine as sooon as we "win friends and influence the people".

  41. Think about this: You are building a house. One morning you discover the structure ablaze. Simultaneously, the fire department and contractor show onsite. As the fire fighters attempt to douse the flames, the contractor's crew sets about interior framing. Is there something wrong with this picture? Welcome to the new world order of warfare.

  42. Q, to your point, and the conclusion is that the Iraq's paid a far higher price. I agree. Was their price worth getting rid of Saddam? I don't know.

    As to whether it was worth it for us? Take the actual cost in blood and treasure and ask yourself if any American president could sell that to the US. I say no.

  43. Just saw Barney Frank interview on CNBC. He was asked about unemployment going to 10.2%. Said not to worry about it. It's kind of an artificial number anyway.

    Per Frank, the thing to look at is that the new unemployment numbers have been gradually decreasing each month.

    What a moron.

    What he doesn't mention is that the 6 million jobs that have already been lost are still lost and that each month that amount keeps going up. I guess if we follow his logic, it will be great when we don't have any more jobs in this country because then we wouldn't have to worry about the unemployment rate going up.

  44. Q, are you interested in doing economic posts? If so send emal to whit and he will give you a key. I would welcome your input as would everyone else excepting perhaps Rufus.

  45. I would welcome your input as would everyone else excepting perhaps Rufus.


    Why would you say that?

  46. I mean, I think it's wonderful that, after having hung around me for three, or four years, Q has learned how to string a few coherent sentences together. I think he should be encouraged as much as possible.

    Just think of the wonderful days ahead, correcting Q's, silly, and wrong-headed posts. I'm getting quite giddy, I'll have you know.

  47. off to Atlanta...Shabbat Shalom...prayers for the fallen and wounded...

  48. Thanks, Rufus.

    I really do appreciate you having taken me under your wing.

    Your kinda like the grandfather I never had.

  49. Your kinda like the grandfather I never had.

    Why did I suspect that?

  50. Brings up another interesting question, though:


    Like, from an egg?

  51. He was asked about unemployment going to 10.2%. Said not to worry about it. It's kind of an artificial number anyway.

    Well, heck, Barney's right, the real number being up in the teens somewhere.

  52. Ia took Doug's test at Fri Nov 06, 07:09:00 AM EST and got all the questions right!

  53. If this didn't have something to do with this guy's religion, when he opens up yelling allah akbar, I don't know what it had to do with.

    I want to mention again, sports fans, your chance to see the U of Idaho Vandals is tomorrow on ESPN, in the evening, about 7pm here.

  54. We've got an Hasan here too, Hasan's Tractor Service, by all appearances a nice fellow. That's what makes all this so confusing: their religion and philosophy is totally alien to our ways, yet some are fine folks. If they don't blow.

  55. WASHINGTON (AP) - President Barack Obama said Friday the entire nation is grieving for those slain at Fort Hood, and he urged people not to jump to conclusions while law enforcement officers investigate the shootings.
    Obama met Friday morning with FBI Director Robert Mueller and other federal leaders to get an update on what they've learned. Thirteen people were killed and 30 others injured in the shooting rampage at the Texas Army post on Thursday. The suspected shooter is an Army psychiatrist; his motive remains unclear.

    "We don't know all the answers yet. And I would caution against jumping to conclusions until we have all the facts," Obama said in a Rose Garden statement otherwise devoted to the economy.

    Unlike with the white cop and the black professor! :) heh

  56. Off to Boy Scout Overnights...

    Prayers for the fallen, wounded et al...

    No prayers for the murderers....

  57. Now that everyone (I assume everyone) inclined to acquire their usual target(s) has done so: I can imagine the horror and grief of the family members, and the shock and outrage of both surviving and fellow soldiers. I can imagine.

    I gather that the Major's Muslim faith did play the signal role and that it was not faith alone. Pat Lang gave a useful (if not entirely accurate) cursory profile and it seems to be a case of one man - parents deceased, without siblings, and failing to "procure" a wife/companion - being at the same time unable to either integrate or compartmentalize his military profession and his religion, given the war he didn't anticipate and was within weeks of becoming a part of firsthand. (Gotta love those tuition repayment programs and promotion/service obligation regulations.)

    Most Muslims entering the Armed Forces do manage it. Among civilian contractors their number is even greater and they manage, too. However breezily, however miserably. It is not political correctness to take note of this.

    Alternatively, as Lang put it facetiously: There's obviously something in the water at VaTech.

  58. A note incidental to the NCO who killed five fellow soldiers at an evaluation/counseling center in Baghdad: It has been discovered that the relative ease and frequency with which servicemembers are nowadays able to contact home is a double-edged sword. That much greater and timely awareness of what's going on back home, be the communications especially unpleasant, often leaves the servicemember in a position of knowing without being able to do much of anything. Resulting in whatever degrees of depression, anxiety, and anger.

    Families fall apart, parents become seriously ill, spouses leave, finances go into the toilet. You name it, it happens on deployment.

    In some ways, the once-a-quarter phone call/once-a-month letter was more merciful.

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  60. In the morning, neighbors said Hasan handed Qurans and donated his furniture to anyone who would take it.

    Neighbors described Hasan as a quiet man who began wearing "Arabic clothing" in recent weeks.

    Malice aforethought

  61. I was flipping radio channels while driving my dog over to the local metropark and I came across Mark Steyn filling in for Rush Limbaugh. There were a couple of segments on the program that point out the advantages and disadvantages of having liberals looking out for you.

    In the first instance, a guy called in and said while he was on vacation in Bermuda he came across four of the Uighur detainees from Guantonimo that the Big O talked Bermudan authorities into accepting (kind of illegal under British law as I understand it). At any rate, he said they seemed like nice guys. They were living in a nice little oceanfront home. No one seemed to know who put up the money for the house.

    Then, on the other hand, you have the 200 or so detainees still in Guantonimo that the government wants to move to prisons in the US.
    Evidently, they are pretty upset with the prospect of giving up their light and airy cells in Cuba in order to move into max security prisons in the US.

    Go figure.

  62. They were living in a nice little oceanfront home.

    jeez, well maybe that and a little carib dope will mellow them out. Maybe they'll become beach combers. Live off the tourist ladies.

  63. Someone at AOS came up with "Sudden Jihadi Syndrome."

  64. "In some ways, the once-a-quarter phone call/once-a-month letter was more merciful."
    Yeah, those daily descriptions of the frivolity in bed the night before did NOTHING for my moral as I froze my ass off in Korea.

  65. Well, at least you weren't trying to manage two things at once.

    Soldiers today more frequently occupy two lanes, due to the ease of communication. Many carrying a double burden on a daily basis. And that does have its consequences.

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  68. "I bet your ass gets sore sitting on that fence rail all the time. Would you care to define "Abrahamic" for me? I may be one. It will help me decide if I need to be offended or not. Thank you in advance."

    rat's thing is actually much more of a Parasitical nature than that of fence sitting. its sucking the blood out of weakened host. and then rat takes it one step further by indirectly (The true man of misdirection) implicating the jews.
    moderate islam seems to act as the life support for radical islam, by buying it time to gather up what it needs.

  69. That anon is not anonobob.

  70. Obama says don't jump to conclusions...

    CNN) -- President Obama said that female policewoman at Fort Hood, "acted stupidly" in shooting Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan.

    "I don't know, not having been there and not seeing all the facts, what role religion played," Obama said Wednesday night while taking questions after a White House news conference.

    Fort Hood authorities dropped murder charges against Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan, Friday night.

    Obama defended Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan on Thursday night, while admitting that he may be "a little biased," because Hasan is a fellow Muslim.

    "But I think it's fair to say, No. 1, any of us would be pretty angry; No. 2, that the Fort Hood police acted stupidly in shooting somebody when there was already proof that they were in uniform; and, No. 3 ... that there's a long history in this country of crusader-infidels taunting and shooting Muslims disproportionately."

    "We don't know all the answers yet. And I would caution against jumping to conclusions until we have all the facts," Obama said in a Rose Garden statement otherwise devoted to the economy.

    "What we do know is that there are families, friends and an entire nation grieving right now for the valiant men and women who came under attack yesterday," the president said.


    Ft. Hood Investigators Focus on Motive

    Portrait Emerges of Religious Man Upset About Deployment

  71. There's a lot of talk about Hasan getting off on some sort of insanity defense, but I don't think it would work. His actions in the preceeding days showed too much planning, forethought. It was a thought out politico/religious killing.

    You might plead the whole religion insane, let everybody off, I quess, but I don't think that's going to fly, either, though there is a good deal of truth in it.

  72. It's odd. The Israelis have looked into his extended family back in the West Bank, and seem to be saying they are 'normal', no big problems. Yet his parents come here, and, as time passes, bang.

    It's like shingles, or something, the virus lies dormant for a long while, then something touches it off.

    SJS, that's a good term.

  73. "It's like shingles, or something,"
    So some Cherry Juice should fix the man right up.

  74. Yeah, a hangman's rope soaked in cherry juice. That'll do it.

  75. Works on gout, Doug, don't know about politico/religious shingles.

  76. It's interesting that the MSM elites are able to dismiss "terrorism" when a lone nut job shouts Allu Akbar while killing innocent bystanders.

    What difference does it make whether it's one nutjob or a cell of them?

  77. Look at anonoboh...all growed up and changing his blogger ID.

    Did your daughter help you?

  78. Okay Quirk, check your email.

  79. No, I tried the Name/URL dealy.

    My google account is messed up somehow.

  80. SILVER SPRING, Maryland (AFP) – Islam is "not responsible" for the bloodbath at an army base in Texas where Muslim-American army Major Nidal Malik Hasan allegedly gunned down 13 people, the prayer leader at the mosque where the officer regularly worshipped said Friday.

    "We offer our condolences and prayers to the families that have a person who died," said Imam Mohammed Abdullahi over loud-speakers that carried the weekly Muslim prayer to several hundred worshippers gathered at the mosque.

    "Islam is not responsible," he stressed.

    I'll try to remember that next time I'm in a hail of bullets and some nutjob is shouting "Allu Akbar."

  81. Your weekly bank closing update:

    WASHINGTON – Regulators on Friday shut United Security Bank, a small bank in Georgia, bringing the number of bank failures this year to 116 amid the struggling economy and a cascade of defaults on loans.

    The Federal Deposit Insurance Corp. took over United Security Bank, based in Sparta, Ga., with $157 million in assets and $150 million in deposits and two branches. Ameris Bank, based in Moultrie, Ga., agreed to assume the assets and deposits of the failed bank.

  82. Well, as the responsible leader of a mosque that is trying to subvert America, what else is he to say?

    There are words for our ears, and then words for their own.

    CAIR, which has been tied to terrorist groups, has condemned the shootings in the strongest possible terms, don'cha know.

  83. While I bet some chests are swelling with pride in one West Bank village.

  84. What difference does it make whether it's one nutjob or a cell of them?

    Fri Nov 06, 05:46:00 PM EST

    Ties to an organization seeking a political end by these means.

    Off the top of my head, that's what makes it terrorism. Or not.

  85. We must fight against negative stereotypes of islam wherever they appear.

  86. Ties to an organization seeking a political end by these means.

    Exactly, see the koranic verses cited above. He's a moslem, isn't he? Didn't he shout allahu akbar? Just following the script.

  87. Obama's Frightening Insensitivity

    President Obama didn't wait long after Tuesday's devastating elections to give critics another reason to question his leadership, but this time the subject matter was more grim than a pair of governorships.

    After news broke out of the shooting at the Fort Hood Army post in Texas, the nation watched in horror as the toll of dead and injured climbed. The White House was notified immediately and by late afternoon, word went out that the president would speak about the incident prior to a previously scheduled appearance. At about 5 p.m., cable stations went to the president. The situation called for not only his trademark eloquence, but also grace and perspective.

    But instead of a somber chief executive offering reassuring words and expressions of sympathy and compassion, viewers saw a wildly disconnected and inappropriately light president making introductory remarks.

    At the event, a Tribal Nations Conference hosted by the Department of Interior's Bureau of Indian affairs, the president thanked various staffers and offered a "shout-out" to "Dr. Joe Medicine Crow -- that Congressional Medal of Honor winner."
    Three minutes in, the president spoke about the shooting, in measured and appropriate terms. Who is advising him?

    Anyone at home aware of the major news story of the previous hours had to have been stunned. An incident like this requires a scrapping of the early light banter.

  88. Otherwise you're the unstable, and Karanically-inspired, lone wolf going postal.

  89. "Ties to an organization seeking a political end by these means. "
    That would be the Politico-religious Organization known as "Islam."
    So the answer is "yes."

  90. Do you think it's accurate to label Islam a terrorist organization?

  91. Yes. Based on the koranic verses, and the overall history of the blasted demonic movement.

  92. There is no separation between Church and State.
    Leaders/Religious figures, and citizens of those states routinely call for, and commit murder of infidels.
    States wage war for Islam.

  93. So you think we should go with a policy of declaring Islam a terrorist organization.

  94. We would "Outlaw" any Christian cult that had a set of bylaws such as the Koran. Especially, if you had a history of followers "Acting" on them.

  95. Yes, Trish, Islam is a religion of conquest, and murder. It should be declared a "terrorist" religion, and its practice should be illegal.

  96. Of course, in as much as we have a Muzzie POTUS, I guess that won't happen.

  97. Do I think all Muslims are terrorists? Of course, not. I know some sweet, kind, hardworking Palestinian people.

    My point was about the efforts of the MSM and our elites to fall all over themselves as apologists every time something like this happens.

    To me, the guy at the El-Al counter was a terrorist, the joker at the clinic in Washington state (or was it Portland?) was a terrorist, John Malvo was a terrorist, the nutjob at UNC? was a terrorist, there was a terrorist in San Francisco. Terrorist shot-up a recruiting station recently. The common denominator is what?

    What's the difference whether they were lone lunatics or a bunch of lunatics gathered together?

  98. Maybe if we act like they love us long enough, they will change.
    Hope for Change!

  99. They have the same motivation.

    Yes, I do think there is a problem with Islam in that when it's adherents follow their book too closely, to devoutly, all hell breaks loose.

    Do I think we should declare Islam a terrorist religion? Only if we want to bring on the Mehdi and the end of the whirled as we know it.

  100. ...too devoutly...

  101. The husband is back and I'm hoping that he ties up loose ends in time to go out to dinner.

    Loose ends and a few fingers of Maker's.

    That may take an hour yet.

  102. I've heard it called a lot of things, but, never "loose ends."


  103. Glad to hear you are reunited.

    And, may you meet your Maker's

  104. An Abrahamic is one the believes in the God of Abraham, gag.

    Seems simple enough.
    Of those that are, seems to be three major branches, with multiple sects in each.

    There are about 3 billion of them in the whirled, near as I can tell.

    They have a long history of violence in the name of their God and the general advance of civilization, as we've come to know it.

    Some of the Abrahamics find violence, in the name of religion and God, to be acceptable. All the major sects have accepted and justified violence to advance their movements at some point in their histories.

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  106. Well, Rat, there's only one of those Abrahamic Religions trying to kill me right now; so I guess I'll give the others a pass, and concentrate on the "Islamic" Crazies for awhile.

  107. FOX News
    Thursday, November 05, 2009

    A mass shooting Thursday at Fort Hood in Texas was the latest in a series of violence incidents at the military post in the past two years.

    In September 2008, a 21-year-old Fort Hood soldier shot to death his lieutenant during a confrontation at his off-base apartment before turning the gun on himself.

    The lieutenant and a staff sergeant went to the Army specialist's apartment, and a confrontation ensued. Killeen police officers responded to a call of a man with a gun, and they saw the specialist hit and then shoot the lieutenant as they arrived at the scene, Killeen police spokesman Carroll Smith said.

    Two months later a New York parolee with an extensive criminal record was executed for robbing, raping and fatally shooting an Army medic at her apartment near Fort Hood.

    Denard Manns, 42, who came to Texas after a second prison sentence in New York for armed robbery, was condemned for the murder 10 years ago of Michelle Robson, 26.

    In July of 2009, Fort Hood Spc. Armano Baca was charged with murdering fellow soldier Spc. Ryan Richard Schlack from Wisconsin.

    Baca and Schlack were members of the 1st Calvary Division and had recently returned from tours in Iraq.

    Schlack was shot during a party at the Central Texas Army post and died at a Fort Hood hospital July 18.

    Three months ago Spc. Jared Lee Bottorff was charged with murder after a shooting at a party near the post.

    At the time, police said Bottorff and another soldier was at a party at house when a fight broke out and someone was shot and killed.

    Bottorff was jailed on $1 million bond.

    The Associated Press contributed to this report.

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    8. The Immaterial Self; How Consciousness Can Survive Death

    9. Out of the World: Philosophy Discovers the Afterlife

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  109. Well, Rat, there's only one of those Abrahamic Religions trying to kill me right now; so I guess I'll give the others a pass, and concentrate on the "Islamic" Crazies for awhile.

    A sensible conclusion to draw, Rufus, and I concur.

  110. Are "they" really trying to kill you, rufus. Down there on the farm?

    I'd say that the Waco wackos were Abrahamics and an armed threat to society. I know that the Mormon bigamists, like those that follow that Jeffers fellow, are armed threats to the general society.

    I know that Catholic gangsters are beheading policemen in Acapulco and are conducting military style raids on homes in Phoenix.

    I know that the greatest threat to my personal security and that of my family is from those Catholics.

    Not from any Muslim.

  111. Aw, hell, I'm all "vented out," Rat. Carry on.

  112. I gotta admit, though, that I had to smile at the "Papist" Terrorists.

  113. Nov 4, 2009 ... El Salvadoran leaders of the MS-13 gang allegedly put out a contract on the federal agent responsible for a crackdown on its New York ...

    So worry about a lone nut in a high stress military environment, or an organization with over 50,000 members that are prone to violence spread across the continent.

    Set your priorities accordingly.

  114. Rhatt

    that covers just about everyone, where does that leave you?

    Sons of Abraham, unite!!

  115. The Army major, he was one of the profilers.

    Who else will be doing the profiling and what will the be profiling for?

    Who has the reins of the Leviathan and what will their goals be?

    After that Holocaust Memorial shooting, guess that "Birthers" that are also gun owners are all now suspects?

  116. Outside lookin' in, gag.

    Able to see the forest,
    as well as the trees.

  117. And amongst the 3 billion or so folk in the whirled that are not Abrahamics.

  118. So worry about a lone nut in a high stress military environment, or an organization with over 50,000 members that are prone to violence spread across the continent.

    So we can only worry about one or the other?

    Do you think the Mexican gang bangers are Catholics? They're no more Catholic than you are. Lastly, do you think the Abrahamics have had an exclusive on killing or did the pagans also do their share?

    All I can tell you is that throughout history the Church disgraced itself when it fell away from it's book. It appears that Islam disgraces itself when it adheres to the Koran.

  119. I haven't heard any reports of MS-13 members shouting "Hallelujah" as they gunned down everyone in sight.

  120. They were raised Catholic or at least in a Catholic culture and do believe in the God of Abraham and his Devil.

    That they are not an extension of the Church of Rome, I agree, but that the believe in the God of Abraham, Christ and the Devil, just look at the tattoos and jewelery.

    There in lies the truth.

  121. If an MS-13 fellow looks into a Book, it's likely a fool will look back out. Just look at the jewelry, tatoos, etc.

    Drawing at the Casino, T-Shirt Friday. Now's my chance.

  122. . In 1997 the son of Honduras President Ricardo Maduro was kidnapped and murdered by MS-13 members. MS-13 members have continued to taunt Central American government officials. Members also left a dismembered corpse with a note for the Honduras president that “more people will die… the next victims will be police and journalists.” In 2004, Guatemalan President Oscar Berger received a similar messages attached to the body of a dismembered man from MS-13 members.

    In 2002 in the city of Tegucigalpa in the Honduras, MS-13 members boarded a public bus and immediately executed 28 people including 7 small children. Again, they left a message written on the front of the bus taunting government officials.

    Violence to obtain political goals, old hat to these fellows.

    There are almost two million Salvadorans living in the US.
    Out of that universe there are 50,000 potential terrorists, ready to rock, tonite.

    There is no other organized, armed and ready to roll of a similar nature that I know of. The Muslims do not have one, nor the neo-Nazis.

    They do not have anything of a similar nature in the Americas. The Muslims certainly do not.
    The HB runs cigarettes from the Kentucky to Michigan.

  123. Anyone that tattoos "666" on their forehead, is an Abrahamic.

    They "believe"

  124. "666"

    Hmm...That might mean these guys follow the Devil...

  125. I'm watching a program about the Iranian Hostage Crisis on Greta Van Susteran.

    Same Ol, same ol. CIA, State Dept, we didn't understand the amount of antipathy toward the Shah. We were "surprized."

    Caught by "Surprize." The theme song of the CIA. With "State" singing chorus.

    I wonder who these silly assholes talk to.

  126. Then, when the Government begins to profile, but uses a threat matrix that you find objectionable, the howling will be intense.

    The Obama Administration has already published its' thoughts on the subject of whom are amongst the "usual suspects".

    I ask each of you, what's changed in DC, that today you would urge an expansion of Federal police powers, to be used by a President described serially here at the EB as a Communist, Autocratic, NAZI and Muslim?

  127. You ain't no fun, Rat.

  128. Latest on the Honduran situation (from the WaPO point of view)

    Can't We All Just Get Along?

  129. Posted by: Parmenter Nov 06, 03:45 PM Report Abuse

    Just as any Christian may be renewed in their faith and share the gospel with you, so any Muslim may come to a renewed devotion and kill you in obedience to the Qur'an.

    *In that sense,* all Muslims are sleeper agents, even those who have no thought of being so.