COLLECTIVE MADNESS


“Soft despotism is a term coined by Alexis de Tocqueville describing the state into which a country overrun by "a network of small complicated rules" might degrade. Soft despotism is different from despotism (also called 'hard despotism') in the sense that it is not obvious to the people."

Wednesday, September 02, 2009

Obama celebrates the end of Ramadan at the White Mosque. Obama preparing to talk directly with American school children September 8.



Obama after hosting the inspirational celebration of Ramadan, will sharpen his skills and will be speaking, over the heads of American parents, directly to all American children in government schools. Obama has prepared a little diktat for all government teachers to prepare for the great event. The great event will take place on September 8.

The community organizer, our President, our great ruler and master, has his own web site of course. This is from the site:
After the Speech:
  • Teachers could ask students to share the ideas they recorded, exchange sticky notes or stick notes on a butcher paper poster in the classroom to discuss main ideas from the speech, i.e. citizenship, personal responsibility, civic duty.
  • Students could discuss their responses to the following questions:
  1. What do you think the President wants us to do?
  2. Does the speech make you want to do anything?
  3. Are we able to do what President Obama is asking of us?
  4. What would you like to tell the President?
  • Teachers could encourage students to participate in the Department of Education’s “I Am What I Learn” video contest. On September 8th the Department will invite K‐12 students to submit a video no longer than 2 min, explaining why education is important and how their education will help them achieve their dreams. Teachers are welcome to incorporate the same or a similar
video project into an assignment. More details will be released via www.ed.gov.



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White House prepares schools for September 8th address to the nations youth

September 1, 9:29 PM

Jefferson County Conservative Examiner Michael Schaus

On September 8th Barack Obama is going to address the children of our Nation in an unprecedented webcast to the nation’s public schools. In a letter sent to principals across the nation, from Secretary Arne Duncan, it was announced that the White House website would be broadcasting a live speech intended to reach the majority of the Nation’s youth as they begin the school year.

The speech, according to the letter, will concentrate on the importance of education and, according to an interview Obama gave to a young reporter, how the administration plans on improving the system. The letter came accompanied with two proposed teaching plans for the classes. One plan addressed children in PreK-6th grade, while the other addressed children in 7th-12th grade.

As the current administration concentrates on yet another way to reach yet another captive audience, the mainstream media has largely ignored the proposed September 8th speech. The teaching plans that accompanied the letter from the Secretary raised suspicions from conservatives alerted to the intention of the administration. The teaching plans include such “thinking exercises” as asking “What is the president asking me to do?” and suggesting that the teachers build background knowledge (one suggestion given in the teaching plan is to read books about Barack Obama.). Some think this type of influence on our children is nothing short of propaganda.

In the teaching plans for 7th-12th grades it is suggested that the students examine and read “notable quotes” from the president’s past speeches. (I wonder if one of those “notable quotes” is his infamous “spreading the wealth” comment to Joe the Plumber.)

The teaching plan also gives suggestions on how the teachers can help the students “increase retention and deepen understanding of an important aspect of the speech.” It seems Barack Obama’s community organizing days are not behind him as he pushes for an obvious and overt attempt to ask the students to consider the importance of the community’s goals and needs. In one part of the K-6th teaching plan, it is suggested that “it might make sense to focus on personal and academic goals so that community and country goals come more readily.”

The knee jerk reaction of the few people who have become aware of the administration’s plan is to denounce the act as an obvious propaganda driven attempt at indoctrinating our children. Holding off on judgment until after the speech is aired might be a wise a prudent maneuver; however, with the past associations of the president, and his administration’s attempts at manipulating facts to encourage their agenda, it seems reasonable that trepidations exist.

On Hugh Hewitt’s radio program it was suggested September 8th become the unofficial conservative "take your child to work day” in an effort to avoid the presentation of a very liberal president in a very liberal environment to an otherwise very un-political mind . . . a child.
After all, the political presentation of education is not exactly a suitable or appropriate subject of study for a child in Kindergarten; or even in third grade. More importantly, however, is the fact that such a direct attempt to “inform” our youth by the leader of the free world is, for a lack of better adjectives, a little strange. It is reminiscent of a maneuver Chavez or Castro would employ to indoctrinate the youth.

A little more unsettling is the fact that the address will be uninterrupted, and in most cases, hosted by a sympathetic administrator: The school. It remains questionable that an obviously biased establishment such as the public school system will have the capacity to fairly interpret any of the president’s talking points; let alone with a proposed teaching plan supplied by the White House. (Below is one extreme example of political bias in the classroom. Please be sure to watch the video.)

Why should our children be subjected to such propaganda? If the president feels education is an important issue to tackle, his course of action should be to address the citizens of this country directly; and leave the nation’s youth out of the politically polarizing debate. What grants the president the right to speak, without your consent or presence, to your eight year old child about the importance of education and community? Is it arrogance that has convinced him such an act would be acceptable; or is it more calculated than that? And why do they feel it justifiable to supply teachers with, essentially, White House approved teaching plans?

I encourage you to read the letter and lesson plans for yourself. However, I also encourage you to consider contacting your principal and requesting that the speech not be aired within the school. I would otherwise encourage you to consider pulling your child from class that day, or (at the very least) making a sincere attempt at watching the speech on your own. (It will be on the White House website at 12:00pm EST) I, despite not having a child of my own, will be watching the speech as it airs live on Monday. I hope that the animosity many conservatives have about his attempts to “communicate” (a term I use loosely) directly with our children is unfounded.


78 comments:

  1. To all of you that voted for this creep, take a peek at how he is spending your dumb ass money

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  2. Man, what has white liberal guilt brought us?

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  3. Keep your children home on September 8.

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  4. Ah come on deuce, he is finally talking to his real audience. The folks on the same wave lenght.

    Kindly, sir, make certain Allen picks up on the nomination by Linear and me.
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    MLD are you there?

    I tried to call again.

    Desperate.

    bob

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  5. I gotta laugh in a way. I may be kinda looking forward to death myself, those high hills, the windless blue skies of forever, and along the steams, the leaves from the cottonwoods, yellow and drifting in the streams, but that doesn't mean all the old folk my age are, and when they picked up on the idea that, the government that they had supported all their lives, with their taxes, and war deaths, and eveything else, might actually end up with some Ash like death panels, with shitheads like Ash giving the old Mengele thumbs up or thumbs down, god bless 'em, the American people said, "Fuck That".

    We got a hell of a good campaign issue the next year. The very best.

    Don't go peacefully into that good night.

    Down with UsurperCare.

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  6. Deuce, I'm gonna support this good Marine we got running in my district next year.

    If I don't, shoot me as worthless.

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  7. Good for you bob!

    Get in the fight, spend your time, if not your money or both. But your time is more valuable than money.

    Do you think that a million or more truants would make a viable political protest?

    How many truants would it take to make a statement?

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  8. Bob, your desperation better pick a different time of day because at, 3:23, in the AM, my eyes are shut and I'm blissfully dreaming of...well...blissful things.

    Try a different number next time.

    MLD

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  9. Truants? That is your parallax view of having a sitting president, go over congress, go over state authorities and use the government school system to by-pass parents and talk directly to their children?

    How long did you think about that one?

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  10. To not have a child attend school is truancy. That is your protest prescription to his behavior. It could be an effective tactic.

    As I recall Mr Bush was reading to school children on 11SEP01, so there is ample precedent for a President to interact with and through the Public Schools. That the President would use modern communication technologies, that's to be expected.
    It is how civilization advances.

    Or so I've been told, here.

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  11. Now that the Public Schools are Federally funded, in no small part, through the Bush/Kennedy "No Child Left Behind" program it is obvious that the President has a role to play in educating our youth.

    The continued expansion of the Federal Socialists, you blame the current personality, Obama, but give the system that allows the usurpation of authority a pass.

    The Rulers & Masters theme.

    As if these folks have not manipulated the system and body politic for generations.

    Keep your kid home from school, it's truancy. I like it, myself.

    Classic civil disobedience.

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  12. How man would it take, continent wide, to make a difference?

    To send an unmistakable signal?

    A million, or more?

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  13. When I was in Grade School they handed out the UNICEF boxes, so we could collect cash for the UN bureaucracy, in the name of faminshed children.

    The use of the Public Schools in the Federal Socialist cause is legend, it did not start with Mr Obama nor with "No Child Left Behind".

    Though both are contemporary examples of old processes.

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  14. BBC News - ‎43 minutes ago‎
    Prime Minister Gordon Brown has said there was "no conspiracy" leading to the release of the Lockerbie bomber. He added there had also been "no cover-up" over the UK's dealings with the Scottish or Libyan governments.

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  15. Bomb hits Athens stock exchange
    AFP - ‎50 minutes ago

    ATHENS - A powerful van bomb caused major damage Wednesday to the Athens stock exchange and injured a woman in one of two attacks suspected to have been carried out by far-left militants.

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  16. MLD, we need further input of some of your blissful things around here. Or perhaps output would be better.

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  17. Nah,
    We need more Masterbatory Warfare.

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  18. Reading
    "My Pet Goat"
    To a Kindergarten Class =
    Nationwide Address,
    Complete with followup plans to hold kids accountable in supporting our Dear Leader.
    (to we know who)

    Sig Heil!

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  19. Is there any smell more sweet than a Cottonwood Creek, al-Bob?

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  20. poor rattie, is 2164th picking on your man
    the bar's very own van jones or jeremiah wright

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  21. Conservative Democrats Expect a Health Deal

    Even after the tough town-hall-style meetings, unrelenting Republican assaults and a steady stream of questions from anxious voters, interviews with more than a dozen Blue Dogs and their top aides indicate that many of the lawmakers still believe approval of some form of health care plan is achievable and far preferable to not acting at all.

    “I can’t tell you how comprehensive it will be, but I do believe something will get passed,” said Representative Michael Arcuri, a second-term Blue Dog Democrat from New York.

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  22. Picking on Presidents is a national past time, here in the USA. More so than baseball.

    Certainly does not bother me, I just like to put it in historical context.

    What sets the US apart, I've been told time and again is our adaptation of technological innovation. It is the essence of our civilization, at least as far as Health Care debate is concerned.

    That the President would utilize these technological tools, to reach the multitudes of minds of mush in the Public School system, just the advance of US civilization.

    Which according to viktor included effective Government.

    What could be a more effective use of both government and technology, than what Obama is doing?

    Civilization advances.

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  23. We must embrace progress, or be washed away by the tides of time.

    Or shall we strive to return to some point in our mythical past.

    .

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  24. The same amount of Presidential effort, 'tween Mr Bush and Mr Obama. Axtually Obama will not be flying to FL, to talk to the kids.

    So Obama will reach millions with less effort. Greater productivity!

    The American way, baby.

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  25. Cutting edge America!

    Advancing boldly into Tomorrowland!

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  26. But the one suggestion of positive action made here at the EB in ages, lost in the ether of the Inet.

    "Vause we gotta talk about me, the rattie, instead of how to mobilize the loyal opposition.

    That's why Obama and his Chi-town Team win.

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  27. loyal opposition?? Right now we've got a bunch of screaming loonies rambling on about Government Death Panels as if they were any different, worse even, then the Corporate Death Panels already running. Looney Birthers sounding like Holocaust Deniers ect. ect. ect.

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  28. You wanna talk about me

    Will a million students staying home be enough to cause a media impact?

    Seems a simple enough question.

    Could there be a viral movement that could reach a million impacts in 6 days?

    A change in target, but not theme as the "Tea Parties", to use as a rally point for the dissatisfied.

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  29. Kids come back from school on Sept 8 with a cigarette hanging out of their mouths, and a Chicago Baseball Cap on backwards.

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  30. "That the President would utilize these technological tools, to reach the multitudes of minds of mush in the Public School system, just the advance of US civilization."
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    Yeah, to the Fascist Mind.

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  31. yes, yes, yes, let's stop bullying, cyberbullying 'cause the POTUS is using his bully pulpit to pollute our clean pure children minds.

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  32. I would not equate the Federal Socialists to the National Socialists, doug.

    They are worlds apart, we need to keep it that way.

    I do remember, clearly, being put to the service of the UN each Halloween collecting coins in little orange boxes.

    Part of the ritual.

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  33. The National Socialists being the first reaction to the word fascist, but there have been many ideological aspects of fascism incorporated into modern America.

    Indeed

    ...The Fascist accepts life and loves it, knowing nothing of and despising suicide: he rather conceives of life as duty and struggle and conquest, but above all for others -- those who are at hand and those who are far distant, contemporaries, and those who will come after...

    ...Fascism [is] the complete opposite of…Marxian Socialism, the materialist conception of history of human civilization can be explained simply through the conflict of interests among the various social groups and by the change and development in the means and instruments of production.... Fascism, now and always, believes in holiness and in heroism; that is to say, in actions influenced by no economic motive, direct or indirect. And if the economic conception of history be denied, according to which theory men are no more than puppets, carried to and fro by the waves of chance, while the real directing forces are quite out of their control, it follows that the existence of an unchangeable and unchanging class-war is also denied - the natural progeny of the economic conception of history. And above all Fascism denies that class-war can be the preponderant force in the transformation of society....

    After Socialism, Fascism combats the whole complex system of democratic ideology, and repudiates it, whether in its theoretical premises or in its practical application. Fascism denies that the majority, by the simple fact that it is a majority, can direct human society; it denies that numbers alone can govern by means of a periodical consultation, and it affirms the immutable, beneficial, and fruitful inequality of mankind, which can never be permanently leveled through the mere operation of a mechanical process such as universal suffrage....

    ...Fascism denies, in democracy, the absur[d] conventional untruth of political equality dressed out in the garb of collective irresponsibility, and the myth of "happiness" and indefinite progress....


    Figure that Benito Mussolini (1883-1945) would know the real meaning of fascism because over the course of his lifetime went from Socialism - he was editor of Avanti, a socialist newspaper - to the leadership of a new political movement called "fascism" [after "fasces", the symbol of bound sticks used a totem of power in ancient Rome].

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  34. To understand just how throughly defeated fascism is, this line of Benito's essay jumps out. Especially if referencing Obama.

    Who doug claims is both Communist, Marxist and Fascist.

    ...And above all Fascism denies that class-war can be the preponderant force in the transformation of society....

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  35. Benito, he had a way with words.

    The foundation of Fascism is the conception of the State, its character, its duty, and its aim. Fascism conceives of the State as an absolute, in comparison with which all individuals or groups are relative, only to be conceived of in their relation to the State. The conception of the Liberal State is not that of a directing force, guiding the play and development, both material and spiritual, of a collective body, but merely a force limited to the function of recording results: on the other hand, the Fascist State is itself conscious and has itself a will and a personality -- thus it may be called the "ethic" State....

    ...The Fascist State organizes the nation, but leaves a sufficient margin of liberty to the individual; the latter is deprived of all useless and possibly harmful freedom, but retains what is essential; the deciding power in this question cannot be the individual, but the State alone....

    ...For Fascism, the growth of empire, that is to say the expansion of the nation, is an essential manifestation of vitality, and its opposite a sign of decadence. Peoples which are rising, or rising again after a period of decadence, are always imperialist; and renunciation is a sign of decay and of death. Fascism is the doctrine best adapted to represent the tendencies and the aspirations of a people, like the people of Italy, who are rising again after many centuries of abasement and foreign servitude. But empire demands discipline, the coordination of all forces and a deeply felt sense of duty and sacrifice: this fact explains many aspects of the practical working of the regime, the character of many forces in the State, and the necessarily severe measures which must be taken against those who would oppose this spontaneous and inevitable movement of Italy in the twentieth century, and would oppose it by recalling the outworn ideology of the nineteenth century - repudiated wheresoever there has been the courage to undertake great experiments of social and political transformation; for never before has the nation stood more in need of authority, of direction and order. If every age has its own characteristic doctrine, there are a thousand signs which point to Fascism as the characteristic doctrine of our time. For if a doctrine must be a living thing, this is proved by the fact that Fascism has created a living faith; and that this faith is very powerful in the minds of men is demonstrated by those who have suffered and died for it.

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  36. That had to have been forty, forty-five years ago, that the UN was exploiting the Public Schools, molding the little minds in the process.

    More so than watching the President of the United States on the TV in the classroom.

    We used to have movie projectors, and the Audio Visual trainee that ran it. Now it's all hardwired cable, or WiFi. Quite the productivity advance, in forty years.

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  37. At this writing, allen is upto his keister in real world alligators of the business sort, so this will be brief.

    I would be honored to accept a position on the esteemed Board.

    Do drugs come with the golden parachute package?

    Thanks!

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  38. Rat may find this op/ed piece interesting:

    Buying American in Tehran

    A rufus, does this delay the peak?

    BP makes ‘giant' oil find in Gulf of Mexico

    And this little story brings up a whole host of interesting issues re. China, Oil, Greenies, Business Investment, National Security, Empire...

    China's move into oil sands irks the U.S

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  39. talk about thieves & law..

    just to go back to the 1200's

    so the lands of israel had been stolen by turkish moslems, then it was liberated by the british and was then to be turned BACK to it's original owners, the Jews..

    but then, the arabs, who already had stolen the berbers, coptics, druze, kurds, jews (and others) decided to create a new people, the palestinians (a name that used to be used to refer to the JEWS)

    so tell me WHY jews, who control 1/650th of the middle east, whos population is 20% arab, should not have the right to own land in hebron?

    From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    1299–1923 also known by its contemporaries as the Turkish Empire or Turkey, was an empire that lasted from 1299 to November 1, 1922[

    At the height of its power (16th–17th century), it spanned three continents, controlling much of Southeastern Europe, Western Asia and North Africa. The Ottoman Empire contained 29 provinces and numerous vassal states, some of which were later absorbed into the empire, while others gained various types of autonomy during the course of centuries. The empire also temporarily gained authority over distant overseas lands through declarations of allegiance to the Ottoman Sultan and Caliph, such as the declaration by the Sultan of Aceh in 1565; or through the temporary acquisitions of islands in the Atlantic Ocean, such as Lanzarote (1585).[7]
    The empire was at the centre of interactions between the Eastern and Western worlds for six centuries. With Constantinople (Istanbul) as its capital city,[8][9] and vast control of lands around the eastern Mediterranean during the reign of Suleiman the Magnificent (ruled 1520 to 1566), the Ottoman Empire was, in many respects, an Islamic successor to the Eastern Roman (Byzantine) Empire.[10]

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  40. how about this...

    native americans back to siberia

    all black to africa

    all arabs back to arabia

    all jews back to israel

    oh and all white americans? back to europe

    and all asians back to asia

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  42. Why not those others?

    I do not have a clue, but that the US does not subsidize entire City States at constant conflict with its' neighbors and 20% of its own population made up of those other categories.

    I do not think that the US being allied with a Russian surragate in the Middle East is a good plan. I do not theink that 1,000,000 US Jews are about to emigrate to Israel, to balance that Russian influence.

    The UAV deal just the first of many deals, the disbursement of technological knowledge to the factories of Mr Putin's Russia, just the natural cultural connection.

    I merely advocate that the US cut or substantially reduce military aid, everywhere. But especially to the countries in the Middle East.

    The US holds the preponderance of power in the whirled, there is no real need to arm up the Arabs, to balance the Persians. While arming Israel to counter balance the Arabs and the Persians, too.

    We do not need to induce or contribute to an arms race in the region. We already hold all the cards, that count.

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  43. Is there any smell more sweet than a Cottonwood Creek, al-Bob?

    No, there sure is not. The sound and smell of a stream is really heaven to me.

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  44. native americans back to siberia

    heh, all these backings--there seems to have been at least three waves coming in, if I have it right, which I may not, according to the latest high opinion on the subject. They seem to have come across, then down the coast. (I think down the coast is the high opinion)

    These original environmentalists seem to have wiped out the wooly mammoth before the Endangered Species Act was in force.

    Once down here they spread out fast, that's for sure.

    Another thing we know is, they were not part of 'the Lost Tribes of Israel', as older Mormon dogma used to hold.

    Bless the Mormons, I love them.

    Palin/Romney might make a good ticket.

    Romney/Palin not so good.

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  45. loyal opposition?? Right now we've got a bunch of screaming loonies rambling on about Government Death Panels as if they were any different, worse even, then the Corporate Death Panels already running. Looney Birthers sounding like Holocaust Deniers ect. ect. ect.

    Ash is channeling mat? Mat's epitaph reads:

    "Here we [go] again with another gusher of pent-up stupidity".

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  46. The remains of a Wooly were found by the Chinese Village (a restaurant/bar) just south of Moscow by a guy with a backhoe. Also up by Tolo Lake out of Grangeville, Idaho.

    I rented an apartment to Oscar and Holly, nice folks, Holly's dad was the professor from Idaho State University that ran the mammoth dig at Tolo Lake.

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  47. If any of you has any doubt about the veracity of the reports coming out of Iran, please consider this discussion with Ayatollah Mohammad Taqi Mesbah-Yazdi, who is considered Ahmadinejad's Imam, and Mahmoud Ahmadinejad himself regarding the issue of rape and torture in Iranian prisons (Hat Tip: Puneet M; more at Memeorandum).

    WARNING - THIS IS EXTREMELY GRAPHIC
    In the wake of a series of publications worldwide regarding the rape and torture of dissident prisoners in Iran's jails, supporters of Ahmadinejad gathered with him in Jamkaran, a popular pilgrimage site for Shi'ite Muslims on the outskirts of Qom, on August 11, 2009. According to Iranian pro-democracy sources, the gathered crowd heard from Ayatollah Mohammad Taqi Mesbah-Yazdi and Ahmadinejad himself regarding the issue.

    ...

    Asked if a confession obtained "by applying psychological, emotional and physical pressure" was "valid and considered credible according to Islam," Mesbah-Yazdi replied: "Getting a confession from any person who is against the Velayat-e Faqih ("Guardianship of the Islamic Jurists", or the regime of Iran's mullahs) is permissible under any condition." The ayatollah gave the identical answer when asked about confessions obtained through drugging the prisoner with opiates or addictive substances.

    "Can an interrogator rape the prisoner in order to obtain a confession?" was the follow-up question posed to the Islamic cleric.

    Mesbah-Yazdi answered: "The necessary precaution is for the interrogator to perform a ritual washing first and say prayers while raping the prisoner. If the prisoner is female, it is permissible to rape through the vagina or anus. It is better not to have a witness present. If it is a male prisoner, then it's acceptable for someone else to watch while the rape is committed."

    This reply, and reports of the rape of teen male prisoners in Iranian jails, may have prompted the following question: "Is the rape of men and young boys considered sodomy?"

    Ayatollah Mesbah-Yazdi: "No, because it is not consensual. Of course, if the prisoner is aroused and enjoys the rape, then caution must be taken not to repeat the rape."

    A related issue, in the eyes of the questioners, was the rape of virgin female prisoners. In this instance, Mesbah-Yazdi went beyond the permissibility issue and described the Allah-sanctioned rewards accorded the rapist-in-the-name-of-Islam:

    "If the judgment for the [female] prisoner is execution, then rape before execution brings the interrogator a spiritual reward equivalent to making the mandated Haj pilgrimage [to Mecca], but if there is no execution decreed, then the reward would be equivalent to making a pilgrimage to [the Shi'ite holy city of] Karbala."

    One aspect of these permitted rapes troubled certain questioners: "What if the female prisoner gets pregnant? Is the child considered illegitimate?"

    Mesbah-Yazdi answered: "The child borne to any weakling [a denigrating term for women - ed.] who is against the Supreme Leader is considered illegitimate, be it a result of rape by her interrogator or through intercourse with her husband, according to the written word in the Koran. However, if the child is raised by the jailer, then the child is considered a legitimate Shi'a Muslim."

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  48. I think it would be neat if the scientists could actually bring the Wooly back, via frozen DNA. Probably a forlorn hope however.

    I read a study once that showed with numbers of human population, reproduction, mammoth population (all these things estimated of course) etc it wouldn't take long to wipe out the Wooly on the north American continent. They were kind of slow moving, easy target, is the impression one gets, not like the more mobile buffalo, much less the deer, harder targets.

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  49. bob said...
    I think it would be neat if the scientists could actually bring the Wooly back, via frozen DNA. Probably a forlorn hope however.

    they are working on it..

    there are tons of frozen wooley meat, bones & hair out there, still in the frozen tundra

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  50. Linear, you and Glenn Beck, ideological soul-mates are ya?

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  51. 2164th said...
    Keep your children home on September 8.


    I am sending my kids to school on Sept 8th with the message..

    How to help the President?

    Suggest he resign....

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  52. Government Death Panels
    Ash

    Which is exactly what was in that bill, in other language, Ash, you juvenile delinquent.

    A serious issue.

    Not to be treated of by fools like you.

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  53. I think it would be neat if the scientists could actually bring the Wooly back, via frozen DNA. Probably a forlorn hope however.

    Or the Kennewick Man.

    Maybe not the Kennewick Man, though he'd surely fit right in today.

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  54. "The child borne to any weakling [a denigrating term for women - ed.]

    From WiO's post above.

    That's it. That's the moronic mind set. Right there.

    The one and only suggestion I've had in all this is we should have bombed Iran and kept it until until they pipped, the bastards.

    Collateral damage? Sure, in the end the women might have been freed and nuclear weapons kept out of the hands of fanatic children.

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  55. Linear, you and Glenn Beck, ideological soul-mates are ya?

    Flattery will get you no where, Ash. Glenn has many heroes from the right, not just me.

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  56. a bald man without any pants chasing the horse

    heh :0 :) that behavior might have passed muster in the old west, but not in our current suberbias.

    heh

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  57. ...The discovery of Kennewick Man was accidental: a pair of spectators (Will Thomas and David Deacy) found his skull while attending the annual hydroplane races.

    Hydroplane races! Now there's a way to really enjoy a waterway. I love the smell of nitro in the morning. Kenny, btw, looks just like a Swedish neighbor from long ago in Rockford, Illinois. His brother was named Kenny, too. Hmmmm.

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  58. I apologize to Wi"O" for deflecting today's conversation away from rape and torture of innocents with my reminiscences of hydro racing and the old neighborhood.

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  59. The high school kids that found Kenny were a little into a case of beer, kicked his skull around like a soccar ball for awhile, before one of the brighter bulbs among them thought we really ought to report this find to the authorities.

    Ah, I recall the smell of tear gas in Coeur d Alene Idaho after the hydro races, circa about 1960 or something.

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  60. ...Sept. 2 (Bloomberg) -- BP Plc, Europe's second-largest oil company, said it made “a giant oil discovery” at its Tiber Prospect in the deepwater area of the Gulf of Mexico.

    Impossible. Can't fool us here at the bar. Rufus will set us straight, shortly. I can hear it now. "...and it costs $Billions to drill in deep water..."

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  61. Welcome aboard, Allen.

    Do drugs come with the golden parachute package?

    Shhhh. See Veronica down in the rathskeller. She'll fix you up.

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  63. Numbers vs what lineman, hopes, dreams and feelings?

    Need numbers to build a hydro-plane lake in the middle of the desert.
    Takes more than hope and dreams.

    Or Obama would take the cake.

    He'd have and try to eat it, too.

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  64. One of the things that cheers me up these latter sorry days is I think Harry Reid may be going down.

    He had the "Desert Debtor" (Rats name for it, a great name) on track, the high speed rail from LA, Sodom, to Las Vegas, Gemorrah, then it seems to somehow gotten diverted to Chicago, someways.

    If anyone knows what happened to that 8 Billion dollars, please inform old bob cause he ain't sure.

    I do think Dirty Harry may be in some trouble there in Shitville, Nevada.

    Who knows? The people might actually wake up.

    What in the hell would our government be doing anyway, encouraging the folk to waste the money?

    Disgusting.

    Dove season is now open here. I'm going to try to get a few tomorrow.

    They are very good, if you cook them right.

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  65. Well, Boss, I don't kiss and tell so if you want to know anything you'll have to find out for yourself.

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  66. Bob, tell him what he wants to know.

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  67. Guess you're on your own, 2164.

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