“Soft despotism is a term coined by Alexis de Tocqueville describing the state into which a country overrun by "a network of small complicated rules" might degrade. Soft despotism is different from despotism (also called 'hard despotism') in the sense that it is not obvious to the people."

Sunday, October 06, 2013

Why do we keep the White House open, ever? Let’s just shut it down, permanently.

What is the purpose of the White House? Is it a symbol of honor, dignity, nationalism or is it some vulgar palace of vanity to an American myth? The White House is a relic that has been reduced to a sham.  How do I know that? Let’s take a peak at what the current occupant, His Highness Barack and Flotus Lady Michelle have up on the website:

First the banner:

Now some of the details:

We may as well put up electronic billboards on it. 

Barack Obama’s not just keeping elderly World War II veterans away from their memorial.  He’s keeping current military forces away from their football and baseball games, too.  ”Due to the government shutdown, the Defense Department can only provide limited overseas television, radio, print, and web services,” the Armed Forces Network website announced.
But rest assured there’s money to keep Camp David – the presidential retreat Obama usually disdains in favor of more expensive remote destinations, although he says he frequently shoots skeet there – up and running, according to the Washington Examiner.
Meanwhile, that World War II memorial is blocked off with even more barricades… and now they’re wired shut.  Vice President Joe Biden offered personal thanks to the Park Service employee who stood her ground against the veterans.  Suffer the wrath of an aroused bureaucracy, war heroes!
Shutdown Theater takes to the seas in Florida, as Obama’s troops in the National Park Service informed charter fishing boats “they are not permitted to take clients fishing in Florida Bay until the feds get back to work,” according to the Miami Herald.  “That means that more than 1,100 square miles of prime fishing is off limits, between the southern tip of the mainland to the Keys, until further notice.”  The ban also extends to tour guides.  No paddling until Obama gets his money!  Doubtless the Administration will hire as many people as it takes to enforce the “shutdown.”
Not everyone in the Park Service is comfortable with their new role as shutdown shock troops.  ”It’s a cheap way to deal with the situation,’ one ranger is quoted as saying by the Washington Times.  ”We’ve been told to make life as difficult for people as we can.  It’s disgusting.”
Some government websites are rather… conspicuously closed.  For example, if you visit the Federal Trade Commission website, everything that would normally be running more or less automatically has been blocked off behind a page that says, “Unfortunately, the Federal Trade Commission is closed due to the government shutdown.”  As anyone who has tried to sign up for ObamaCare knows, a truly non-functional web site responds with an error message.
A senior Administration official pronounced the White House satisfied with its efforts to discipline the unruly populace, saying “it doesn’t really matter to us” how long the shutdown goes on, “because what matters is the end result.”  That’s an interesting companion piece with Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid’s callous dismissal of pediatric cancer patients.  Who cares how long people are hurting, as long as the media makes sure they’re angry with Republicans, and the ruling class continues to enjoy its perks and privileges?
White House spokesman Jay Carney tumbled out of the Administration clown car to “utterly disavow” this remark, while House Speaker John Boehner growled, “This isn’t some damn game.  The American people don’t want their government shut down, and neither do I.  All we’re asking for is to sit down and have a discussion, and to reopen the government and bring fairness to the American people under Obamacare.  It’s as simple as that.  But it all has to begin with a simple discussion.”
The White House is openly soliciting “how has the government shutdown affected you?” stories on its blog, while good old Harry Reid mercilessly strangles every bill that would fund government services.  Sounds like a game to me, and not a very good one.
Update: When Shutdown Theater came to Wisconsin, Governor Scott Walker said “no.”  The federal National Park Service ordered Wisconsin officials to close several parks, including some areas that are actually owned by the state, but Walker’s administration refused.  ”All state parks, trails, and other recreational properties are open and not affected by the federal government’s budget problems,” proclaimed the Wisconsin Department of Natural Resources.
Update: Rep. Lee Terry (R-NE) accuses President Obama of illegally furloughing two thousand civilian defense contractors at Offutt Air Force Base, a violation of the Pay Our Military Act that was duly passed and signed last week.
Funny, I thought Obama was big on obeying “the settled law of the land.”  Oh, wait, silly me – he thinks you little people should have to obey those laws, not His August Majesty.


  1. All the security and still a crazy new mother with a baby become the scene of the obscene. A federal shoot out while tourists mill around the grounds amidst robo-cops. It is the theater of the absurd. Convert the White House and the capitol building grounds into an American Versailles and create some jobs by moving the entire federal artifice to Detroit for 15 years and then on a fifteen year schedule move it again to the next derelict shit hole on the list.

  2. We justify a new Olympics site on a four year schedule, let’s try a new seat of government on a 15 year cycle. Forget the pseudo Rome theme and build the true industrial business parks that it really is. Place the President in private secure grounds and cut the office and the egoist in the office down to a manageable size.

    Set up a four year contract with NetJets. Get rid of the butlers, Marine guards and Colonial Disneyland.

  3. And for fuck’s sake, end the childish nonsense about a “First Ladyship”.

  4. Yes your worship.

    Bow deeply.

    Turn your gaze.

    Avoid direct eye contact.

    With bent head slowly exit by walking backward towards the first door and only turn after clearing the door.

  5. Where is that asteroid when we need it? I mean a big honking smokin' fireball to burn the bitch down.

    1. You are advocating Citycide, with perhaps a million dead, which is much worse than WiO advocating using a small nuke to take out a rock on a vacation day, with a few hundred dead.

      I shall paste this statement in my memory.

      :) !

    2. Or, are you 'just wishing'?


    3. What about the innocent children?

      There must be at least 10 of those in D.C.Gomorrah.

      You've less compassion and sense of justice than Father Abraham.

      You do you think you are, Yahweh?


    4. "a big honking smokin' fireball to burn the bitch down"

      That image seems familiar, where have I read something similar before.........?


      'and the smoke rose from Sodom as smoke from a kiln'

    5. This place is an absolute gas sometimes.

      Back to bed, belly jiggling, laughing silently, so as not to wake the wife....

    6. Our Fascist Farmer just does not understand that wishing for Divine intervention is not a call for murder.

      Fascist Farmers are like that.

    7. "Divine intervention"??? DeuceSun Oct 06, 06:47:00 AM EDT
      Where is that asteroid when we need it? I mean a big honking smokin' fireball to burn the bitch down.

      Sounds like wishing for mass murder, no God mentioned in any way shape or form.

      Deuce just a few days ago held my posts up as an example of my lacking or moral compass.

      But now?

      Deuce advocates the destruction of Washington DC.

      Tsk tsk.

      One standard for me and none for thee...


      That's fascism...

    8. Your ignorance of astronomy and the law is on a galactic scale. It would be illegal to suggest that a man-made event destroy the existing governmental structure at the center of the empire. Metaphor hardly snaps a synapse in your clotted cortex. A speculation on a hypothetical natural event is quite another matter.

    9. If Stymie and Alfalfa had an art gallery, it would all be air brushed on velvet.

    10. Unlikely in the extreme. Even the 55 footer that scared the shit out of some Russians and broke their windows was a big news story. Not even the Tunguska one in 1908 smacked the ground. Even if you take city-killers to be a once-in-a-century event, the Earth is 71% water, cities aren't so jammed together on the land that's left over, and capital cities of wannabe empires even less so.

    11. DeuceSun Oct 06, 09:59:00 AM EDT
      Your ignorance of astronomy and the law is on a galactic scale. It would be illegal to suggest that a man-made event destroy the existing governmental structure at the center of the empire. Metaphor hardly snaps a synapse in your clotted cortex. A speculation on a hypothetical natural event is quite another matter.

      Fine to use your bullshit verbiage "Where is that asteroid when we need it? I mean a big honking smokin' fireball to burn the bitch down."

      Splitting hairs.

  6. Someone is trying to destroy any rapprochement between the US and Iran

    At least four people have been arrested in Iran for trying to sabotage a nuclear site, an Iranian official has been quoted by the country's media as saying.

    The head of Iran's Atomic Energy Organisation, Ali Akbar Salehi, said officials had monitored and then arrested a "number of saboteurs" before they could carry out their plan.

    "Four of these individuals were caught red-handed and their interrogations are ongoing," he said, according to the Mehr news agency on Sunday. He did not identify which nuclear site they were planning to damage or when those detained were arrested.

    Israel, widely believed to be the region's only nuclear-armed state, sees Iran's atomic work as a military threat and has said it will attack Iran's nuclear sites if it does not end its programme. Iran says its nuclear work is purely peaceful.

    Iran accuses Israel and the west of being behind the assassination of Iranian nuclear scientists and of trying to damage its programme in other ways, such as by cyber-attacks.

    1. Someone was arrested in Tel Aviv who was an Iranian agent...

      Trying to sabotage a nation.


  7. More

    Iran has arrested four people for trying to sabotage a nuclear site, a senior official says.

    The activities of the four had been monitored for some time, said the head of Iran's Atomic Energy Organisation, quoted by local media, said

    They had been caught red-handed, Ali Akbar Salehi said.

    Mr Salehi did not give names or nationalities, or identify which site was the intended target.

    The announcement comes amid new hopes of resolving Iran's standoff with the West over its nuclear programme.

    Just over a week ago, Iran's President Hassan Rouhani spoke to US President Barack Obama by phone in a bid to ease tension over Iran's nuclear programme.

    Amir Azimi
    BBC Persian
    Ayatollah Khamenei, in a speech on Saturday, gave more weight to supporting President Rouhani's diplomatic manoeuvres in New York, rather than criticising him.

    The leader reassured the government of his trust in them but also hinted at disapproval over parts of Mr Rouhani's action.

    The tone of the criticism was soft - he didn't condemn what happened, he just said some parts were out of place. Many observers see this as a message directed at the domestic hardliners, who oppose direct talks with US officials.

    The message could be that the leader is on top of the situation and monitoring events very closely - and that there is no need for them to be worried.

    They were the first talks between Iranian and US leaders in more than three decades.

    Iran's Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei endorsed Mr Rouhani's overtures to the US on Saturday.

    "We support the diplomatic initiative of the government and attach importance to its activities in this trip," he said on his website.

    Ayatollah Khamenei said that "some of what happened on the New York trip was not appropriate", without being specific.

    "We are pessimistic towards the Americans and do not put any trust in them," he said.

    "The American government is untrustworthy, supercilious and unreasonable, and breaks its promises."

    Substantive nuclear negotiations between Iran and international powers are due to take place next week and Mr Rouhani has pledged to bring a plan to the meeting.

    Iran wants the lifting of UN sanctions, which were imposed over concerns that it is seeking to build nuclear weapons clandestinely - an allegation Tehran denies.

  8. Coincidence that a week before negotiations begin, another scientist is assassinated and an arrest is made of four people trying to sabotage a nuclear facility?

    1. How many Iranian scientists will you concede were murdered by Iran? Maybe they were suspected of being moles or spies for the west?

      Is it not possible or plausible that it's Iran whacking it's own to keep it's own in line?

  9. Here is something choice:

    October 3, 2013 1:20 pm

    During Thursday’s Senate Foreign Relations Committee hearing, Sen. Marco Rubio (R., FL) asked Under Secretary of State Wendy Sherman, what country Iran’s nuclear program resembles.

    Sherman responded Iran is “in many ways more dangerous than any country who has the ability to reprocess, enrich or has nuclear weapons or seeks to get nuclear weapons.”

    Who is Wendy and where did she get her expertise on nuclear weaponry development?

    Let’s take a peek:

    Wendy Ruth Sherman (born 1949) is a United States diplomat, government official, non-profit manager, and adviser to politicians and business. She currently serves as Under Secretary of State for Political Affairs, the third highest ranking position in the U.S. Department of State. During the Clinton Administration, she served as Counselor of the United States Department of State and Special Advisor to the President and Secretary of State and North Korea Policy Coordinator…

    …Sherman attended Smith College from 1967 to 1969, and received her degree from Boston University in 1971. In 1976, she earned a Master’s degree in Social Work, Phi Kappa Phi from the University of Maryland…

    …Early in her career, Sherman worked in a variety of positions in both government and non-profit organizations: chief of staff for three years for then Congresswoman Barbara Mikulski, campaign manager for Mikulski's first successful Senate campaign, Special Secretary for Children and Youth in Maryland (a cabinet-level position), Director of Maryland's Office of Child Welfare, supervising protective services, foster care, adoptions, and group homes.
    Sherman directed Campaign '88 for the Democratic National Committee, where she oversaw field and political operations, communications, Congressional relations, constituency operations, issue development and coordination with all federal, state and local campaigns during the 1988 general election.
    From 1991 to 1993, Sherman specialized in strategic communications as a partner in the political and media consulting firm of' Doak, Shrum, Harris and Sherman. Prior to that, she directed EMILY's List, the largest financial and political resource for pro-choice Democratic women candidates. She is credited with the organization’s strategic development that led to groundbreaking numbers of candidates in 1992.

  10. "August"

    A word applied to the delusional vanity of office. No one gets out of here alive.

  11. Breaking: Deuce Calls For Destruction of D.C.......Urges Fireball from Heaven.....A Million Dead?

    "a big honking smokin' fireball to burn the bitch down" .........drudge


    1. The Fascist Farmer is now even afraid that Divine intervention will wipe out his brother in hate spewed rhetoric, Harry Reid and their "Daddy" Barack Obama.

    2. So Rat conflates comets, meteors in space as "Divine intervention"..

      Hmm interesting.

    3. Oh, no, quot.
      It is the Fascist Farmer Robert who equates the two.
      I merely brought that poignant point to the table.

      Sun Oct 06,

      09:43:00 AM EDT

      Breaking: Deuce Calls For Destruction of D.C.......Urges Fireball from Heaven...

      Check the time stamp, quot.

      Now, desert rats FIRST mention of the Divine, which does come from "Heaven", no?
      desert ratSun Oct 06,
      09:51:00 AM EDT

      Our Fascist Farmer just does not understand that wishing for Divine intervention is not a call for murder.

      Open your eyes, quot, or your foot will be in your mouth, again.

      The Divine intervention was Fascist Farmer Robert's call.
      Open your eyes and READ.

    4. You repeated it, continued it, expanded it.

      You are a dis-information whore.

    5. With a really big meteor there might be peripheral damage to Richmond where Deuce, presumably, going by his Lost Cause rhetoric, would relocate the seat of government.

    6. Detroit City, Ms T.
      That is where Deuce would move the Capital.
      That is what he wrote

  12. Republicans vote to shut down government, and then get mad when Obama shuts down the government. You couldn't make this stuff up. :)

    1. Obama spends exptra money to shut down places that dont need to be shut down..

      Can we say the Emperor is crass? Spiteful? Revengeful? and naked.

    2. Obama is trying to keep Federal property secure from vandals.

      Women that crash the White House gates and pyromaniacs that set fires on the Mall

      Finally, he returned to the National Mall and, just before 4:30 p.m., aimed his camera east, toward the Capitol

      “That was the last stop that I had planned,” he said.

      As he was shooting, a man appeared in the center of his frame, standing near Seventh Street, with his back to Soto. He poured gasoline over his body from a canister, and, before igniting the fuel with a lighter, gave the Capitol a crisp military salute.

      Soto’s camera kept clicking as flames engulfed the man’s body and passersby rushed to his aid.

      The Fascist Farmer and other supporters of the Government shutdown demand safety and security from fear.
      The president is obliging them, the only way he can.
      By limiting the opportunity for vandals to enter Federally controlled areas.

      When Fascist Farmer Robert demands safety and security from fear, President Obama will oblige.

    3. There were no such vandal attacks in Washington DC prior to the shutdown of the government and a lessening of the Federal employee presence in DC.

      There is probably a correlation between the "Shutdown" and these vandal events on the symbols of freedom on the Mall

      The President must "Connect the Dots" ...
      He must keep US safe.

      Fascist Farmer Robert demands it!

    4. Desert rat, do you really equate the woman's behavior with vandalism? My impression is that her motive wasn't simply the defacement of property. By using such a misnomer you trivialize the response of law enforcement, who HAD to assume the worst, given her targeting of both the White House and the Capitol. You know better than that.

    5. Miriam's intentions will never be known, allen.

      Only her actions stand in testimony.
      Both the immolation on the Mall and Miriams attempt to crash the gate were illegal activities.
      The lack of proper security, in DC may well have led to these miscreants ability to take their actions.

      Vandal - One who willfully or maliciously defaces or destroys public or private property.
      That is the result of their actions. The destruction of public property. At the White House and on the Mall.

      It was the least offensive term I could think of, to describe both the assault on the White House gate and burning the lawn on the Mall.

    6. desert ratSun Oct 06, 10:23:00 AM EDT
      There were no such vandal attacks in Washington DC prior to the shutdown of the government and a lessening of the Federal employee presence in DC.

      Once again Rat speaks and lies...
      Vandals Strike More D.C. Landmarks With Green Paint: National Cathedral, Joseph Henry Statue Defaced
      washington dc ten commandments monument toppled by vandals

      Now watch Rat change definitions and meanings

  13. Notice how partisanship drives our Fascist Farmer?

    For over a year he has bemoaned that the US has 'botched" Libya.
    But when a terrorist that has been on the lam since 1999 is taken off the streets of Tripoli by US forces, Fascist Farmer does not even mention the fact.

    Instead he wants Constitutional Amendments to limit the freedom of motorcycle riders to assemble and donate to the Marine Corps "Toys for Tots" program.

    Shame on our Fascist Farmer Robert, he certainly is a dread pirate, wanting to steal liberty and freedom from every American.

    1. A narcissistic sociopath is someone with a combination of narcissistic personality disorder and definitive behavioral signs of sociopathy. People with narcissism are characterized by their excessive and persistent need for others' admiration and positive reinforcement. They generally have grandiose opinions of themselves and believe they are superior to other people. Narcissists are also frequently convinced that they are above the normal responsibilities and obligations of everyday life, so they usually have significant difficulties maintaining employment or relationships as a result. The narcissistic sociopath has this type of personality along with a noticeable lack of regard for the rights of others and a tendency to regularly violate those rights.

      One noted difference between a narcissistic sociopath and people with narcissism alone is that the narcissist with the sociopathy reacts strongly and sometimes even violently to negative feedback. True sociopaths generally do not respond to criticism or care what others may think of them. A narcissistic sociopath is unable to tolerate criticism and needs constant praise, as well as deference from other people. Many with this condition present themselves in the best light possible and are able to easily charm others to gain their trust.

    2. .

      For over a year he has bemoaned that the US has 'botched" Libya.
      But when a terrorist that has been on the lam since 1999 is taken off the streets of Tripoli by US forces, Fascist Farmer does not even mention the fact.

      The rat rants of what a great job Obama is doing in taking out one terrorist in Tripoli yet ignores the fact that Obama's actions have helped put him and his ilk there in the first place.

      When compared to the terrorists Obama has killed those he has created can be called legion.



    3. Obama drew the terrorist out of hiding, Q.
      And has provide funding the government of Egypt, the US Security Partner in the region, at the same time

      Both are the net" results of the action in Libya.
      With Libyan oil off the market, Saudi and othe Gulf state oil producers have "filled" the gap,
      providing them with the funds to transfer to the transitional government in Egypt.

      A plan that has come together, on multiple levels, to advance the interests of the United States and her partners.

    4. 9/20/13: More than one-third of Libya’s oil production has come back on line in recent days after a striking militia opened the valves on a critical pipeline between two major western oil fields and Mediterranean port terminals outside the capital, Tripoli.

    5. From the above it seems that quot has become ...

      A clinical psychiatrist
      A plagiarist
      Or he stay at a Holiday Inn Express, last night.

    6. Just like you?

      I can google.

      So does that make you a plagiarist for the scores of posts you simply cut and paste without references?

      The Rat, misinformation at it's best.

      Dont bother READING anything the Rat actually says because he will change his meaning within the very sentence he is typing.



    7. Well one thing Rat ain't?

      "Or he stay at a Holiday Inn Express, last night."

      Is a decent proof reader.

      Rat's now a Chinese Laundry Lady....

    8. Leave it to WiO to get genders mixed up again.

    9. Usually hire the proof reading, quot.

      When it's worth it.

      Offered the job to boobie, but he died.
      Offered it to anonymous, turned out he did not have the technical capacity to handle it.

      So, I'll just let the reader find his own way through the morass.

    10. .

      Obama drew the terrorist out of hiding, Q.

      I can't argue with that.


      A plan that has come together, on multiple levels, to advance the interests of the United States and her partners.

      Come on, rat, admit it. You got this idea form Len Horowitz over at Tetrahedron Purchasing Group. While it is kind of bizarre, you will never hold an audience. Cryptozoology is more entertaining. Try Mermaids Attacked by Great White Shark over at Animal Planet.


    11. Italicizing the words in the "cu and Paste" is the standard that was developed to indicate that the work was from another author. Sometimes the author is even credited, by name.
      Often followed by a web link, but not always.
      This is not a college thesis environment, you know.

      With the new Blogger technologies, the author can often post his own words, even from the grave.
      It is a wonderful thing, their ability to speak for themselves.

    12. TeresitaSun Oct 06, 11:11:00 AM EDT
      Leave it to WiO to get genders mixed up again.

      Didnt mix up anything.

      Dont KNOW fur sure if you are a woman, other than you now claim to be. You lied for 2.5 years about being a catholic lesbian with a lady friend, about moving to your homeland. Really how do we KNOW w (or care) what your real gender is.

      My joke went your head head. Not to hard seeing how far up your ass it is...

  14. I think Deuce has made a distinction without a difference in his ongoing spat with WiO. Whether man made or by providence, the destructive impulse is the same. Both DC and the rock have become synonymous with unadulterated evil in the minds of many and their annihilation would give a sense of divine or well deserved retribution.

    On several levels, I found this portrayal of the "August One" frighteningly apropos.

    1. I would disagree.

      Deuce merely mentions that if celestial mechanics were to wipe out the Capital City, well we all could be better off for it.

      Fascist Farmer Robert, elevates celestial mechanics to " Urges Fireballs from Heaven"

      Now allen attempts to equate celestial mechanics to devastation by nuclear weapons, as a "distinction without a difference".
      Quite comical, really, to see the telephone game in action.

    2. .

      If there is a nit to pick, the rat will pick it.

      Unfortunately, he makes assumptions that are often wrong.

      Definition of heaven (n)

      Bing Dictionary


      [ hévvən ]

      1.perfect dwelling place after death: a place or condition of supreme happiness and peace where good people are believed to go after death, and, especially in Christianity, where God and the angels are believed to dwell

      2.blissful experience: an experience of blissful happiness the sky as seen from Earth


    3. .

      Anonymous has the soul of the poet (I can't speak for his mind).

      Rat has the words but lacks the music.


    4. where God and the angels are believed to dwell

    5. I do not think our Fascist Farmer Robert uses a dictionary, Q.
      He capitalized the word, so it wasn't the sky he was referring to, but the abode of God and the Angels.
      A specific place, or the "H" would have been lower case, aye.

    6. And no radio stations broadcast from there, either.

    7. Then how does He ask for money?

    8. Words have meaning, Q.
      Rush Limbaugh told me so

    9. He never asks for money, being as how He created everything and doesn't need it. But some self-appointed spokesmen do ask for money. Beemers are expensive.

    10. Where is that asteroid when we need it? I mean a big honking smokin' fireball to burn the bitch down. ___Deuce

      allen made no such correlation addressing the method of destruction. allen simply pointed out the underlying motive: the destruction of perceived evil icons. Since this blog does not have a cartoon function, I cannot make myself any clearer.

    11. .

      Words do have meaning, rat; but then so does context.

      If you assume 'Heaven' was capitalized because it was used as the proper name for a specific place, how do you explain 'Urges' and 'Fireballs' being capitalized?

      Occam's Razor would suggest the phrase, as presented, was merely a literary affectation used by our resident poet.


    12. The method of destruction, allen, makes all the difference, i do believe.

      As to Q, and his defense of our resident Farming Fascist, he may have a point.
      But it is a difference without distinction.

      He chose to use ambiguous terminology, when the discussion was centered around celestial mechanics.
      As a devotee of astronomy and the Federal funding of space exploration, we would expect some clarity when the Fascist Farmer Robert speaks of Heaven, Fireballs and primordial Urges

      By capitalizing them all, IMO, the Dread Farmer Robert is calling upon the Divine.
      Not speaking of rocks falling by happenstance from the sky above.


    13. .

      That is merely because you lack the soul of a poet, rat.

      You don't understand the importance of the relationship between content and presentation.



    14. Deuce's specific words:

      DeuceSun Oct 06, 06:47:00 AM EDT
      Where is that asteroid when we need it? I mean a big honking smokin' fireball to burn the bitch down.

      He is saying in clear terms, burn Washington DC or Congress down.

      Notice how no one here scolds him of the size of the city containing civilians there are?

      Notice how no one here has screeds about advocating mass murder?

      When I advocated nuking the rock to SAVE lives to win a war against Islam people went off the deep end. No matter how many times I have added specifics, such as in off season, micro tact nuke, use a laser, kidnap the rock and shoot it to the sun the regular screechers here will hear nothing of it.

      They exaggerate my statement, claim I want to mass murder millions of innocents. All of course bullshit.

      But Deuce's comment stands without and screams...


      again one standard for me and none for thee...

  15. I would have to say ...
    That the death and destruction from the Boxing Day tsunami
    And the death and destruction of the nuclear attack on Hiroshima

    Represent a "difference with distinction"

    There is no comparison of the two, but that right around 250,000 people died.
    One was a natural event, the other a man made occurrence.

    Quite a difference, I do believe.

    1. In the Japanese case it was suicide by USAAF.

    2. Wishing for a tsunami to wreck havoc is exactly the same wishing to wreck havoc via a weapon. Over the former, one has no control as to the event; one does, however, have control over the rage stimulating the wish. It isn't that hard to grasp: one fellow hates DC and wishes for its annihilation via a sanitary act of G-d.

    3. One time the prophet Jonah wanted the same thing to happen to Ninevah. YMMV was appalled at this human lust for bloodshed of innocent people and animals. He said, "And should not I spare Nineveh, that great city, wherein are more than sixscore thousand persons that cannot discern between their right hand and their left hand; and also much cattle?"

  16. .

    With respect to both D.C. and the rock, I assume both are merely cases of hyperbolic venting rather than wishful thinking. This dispute gives them more standing than they are worth. Only a sociopath could actually wish for either.

    When you get down to parsing the differences between natural and humanly activated events with regard to this subject, IMO, the bar has once again left the tracks. Bonkers!


    1. .

      While I was writing, I see we now have a biblical scholar entering the fray.



    2. The actual destruction of the rock of mecca is not the thoughts of a sociopath. Islam practices the destruction of other faiths symbols all the time. It's been their modus operandi for 1300 years. From the taking over of Churches and Synagogues, to the Erasing of the Buddahs, Joseph's Tomb and more. The logical idea that "erasing" the black rock of Mecca might actually force Islam to reform is well proven And hardly a sociopath's dream. It's just understanding what the islamic enemy fears.

    3. .

      Let me amend my comment above.

      Only a sociopath or a nitwit could wish for either.

      I know this is a mistake but I have to ask through some weird fascination, kinda like being unable to turn away from a car accident.

      The logical idea that "erasing" the black rock of Mecca might actually force Islam to reform is well proven And hardly a sociopath's dream. It's just understanding what the islamic enemy fears.

      Well proven?

      Please elucidate.

      This isn't another one of John Loftus' conspiracy theories or an episode from Ancient Aliens is it?


  17. I have my share of vices and bad habits and numerous ways to waste time, prayer is not one of them.

  18. The over riding theme, the core of the proposal that has merit...
    Move the place of government from DC, and relocate on a rotating basis to areas of the United States in need of economic stimulus, may be sound.

    The counties around the Federal District are now some of the richest in the nation. So the stimulative effect of the Federal government is clear and well illustrated.

    The White House, Executive Office Building, the Capital building and the Supreme Court edifice could all become museums, tourist attractions of historical distinction. fitting right in with the other monuments, museums and reminders of the glory days of the Republic.

    The Congress, SCOTUS and the President and his entourage could become a "Movable Feast", traveling the country, setting up shop, doing their business and then returning to their homes at the end of the legislative session, the judicial calendar or in the President's case, whenever he wants.

    As Mr GW Bush so aptly illustrated, the President could do his job as effectively from Crawford, Texas as he could from Washington DC.

    1. To disperse the Government, a security measure of merit, as well.
      Get all those folks out of a single targeting area, out of the Kill Box, as it were.

      Dispersed and maintaining their interval, that would increase the survivability of the government in case of a nuclear, biological or chemical attack.

      To keep the Federal government in a 10 mile square district, an 18th century solution that in the day of digital communication and air travel is no longer expedient, safe or secure.

      We must disperse the Federal government to save it!

    2. The Museum District of Columbia could then be returned to the legal jurisdiction of Virginia and Maryland, the people of the District would no longer be disenfranchised in the Presidential or Congressional elections.

      It would be a move towards greater political representation and accountability
      it would be an economic stimulant to depressed areas of the nation
      It would secure the survivability of the government in case of nuclear, biological or chemical attack

  19. I will have to watch my future use of metaphor and ask Jesus to guide my hand and temper my artistic flourish.

  20. I must say, we do not usually get so many comments on a Sunday morning.


  21. There is something really wrong with rat. He hallucinates. I've said time and again Obama's foreign policies are mostly a ripping success. Libya is disfunctional, that is success. Egypt, despite O's best efforts, with the military back in charge, that is success, Syria a ripping success, dividing up into three as it is doing......the guy is a genius, even though he hasn't a clue what he is doing.

    I thought Deuce's comment was really funny, and given the background to it. This place needs some levity no matter how it comes to us.

    One must admit, this is really wonderful:

    "a big honking smokin' fireball to burn the bitch down" .

    :):) !!!

    Casino time....


    1. Shit, our Fascist Farmer Robert cannot read.
      I have been saying that he and Obama are on the same page, are peas in a pod, brothers in expanding Federal power and authoriyt and successfully guiding the nation forward
      He agrees, but thinks that the observation that while he is a staunch supporter of the President's policies, the disdain that Dread Fascist Robert exhibits towards the President, his wife, his political party, his race and his religion is a hallucination on desert rat's part.

      He is ...
      ... Slip Sliding Away..

    2. on matters of Federal policy, Fascist Farmer Robert and the President are on the same page.

      The only problems our Fascist Farmer Robert has with the President are that he is black, a Democrat and a Christian that is also an Affinity Jew that happens to respect Islam, in public.

  22. Have we reached a point of no return in this government shutdown? Can either side back away without the risk of reaping the public's wrath? Today I see that the Speaker has decided to stand and fight. By this I hope he means, among other things, that the House will continue to attempt to pass continuing resolutions and bills, leaving it to the Senate and White House to kill. If Mr. Boehner would do this on a daily basis, making it a big production, things would start getting uncomfortable for the Dems.

  23. Another US foreign policy success ...
    With not a shot fired by US troops
    Nor a shot fired at US troops

    Destruction of Syria's Chemical Weapons Begins

    A team of international inspectors has begun the huge task of destroying Syria's stockpile of chemical weapons and the facilities used to make them.

    Authorities said Sunday is the first day of the dismantling process, but gave no details where the inspectors went after they left their Damascus hotel.

    The team consists of experts from the Organization for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons in The Hague and United Nations personnel assisting them. They arrived in Damascus last week.

    The mission, agreed to by Washington and Moscow after an August chemical weapons attack in Damascus prompted U.S. threats of air strikes against the Syrian government, is expected to continue until at least mid-2014.

    Syrian President Bashar al-Assad said last month that he would comply with the operation.

    Developed during the 1980s and 1990s, Syria's chemical arsenal is believed to contain mustard gas and the nerve agents sarin, VX and tabun.

    Also Sunday, U.N.-Arab League peace envoy Lakhdar Brahimi urged Syria's warring parties to hold talks "without preconditions" and said he hopes negotiations could take place in Geneva in late November.

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    1. While the internal security apparatus of the state has failed US, again
      The government CANNOT keep you safe
      You should never believe that liberty could possibly be successfully exchanged for safety.

      "Despite numerous checkpoints and gate agents, officials at Minneapolis/St. Paul International Airport say a 9-year-old was somehow able to sneak through security and onto a Delta flight headed to Las Vegas."

      That's the report from Minneapolis-St. Paul TV station KARE 11, which says the "security mishap" came Thursday when the boy sneaked into the airport and onto Delta Flight 1651 to Las Vegas.

      FULL REPORT: 9-year-old sneaks onto plane at Minneapolis-St, Paul airport (KARE 11)

      Pat Hogan, spokesperson for the Minneapolis-St. Paul International Airport (MSP), confirmed the incident to KARE, but says it wasn't the result of an airport shortcoming.

      "At this point, this is a Delta and TSA issue," Hogan tells KARE. "This is a rare incident."

      MSP officials say they've reviewed security footage and at this point do not believe he was carrying a boarding pass.

      In a statement to KARE, Delta says: "We are investigating the incident and cooperating with the agencies involved."


  25. Desert Rat, Mr. Obama is not black. He is a mulatto with an affinity for blackness and the teaching of Karl Marx.

    Interestingly, a poll reported yesterday found that about 40% of Obama boosters did not know his party affiliation. I would stand in disbelief if I did not know that the majority of college students know neither the Vice-President nor Chief Justice.

    1. Well, allen, that may be true about Mr Obama, but he is certainly "blacker" than the ...

      "First Black President of the United States"
      .... William Jefferson Clinton .....

      Which is part of the core justification to the position I have held for years and years.

      .... that people should be judged as individuals ...
      Not as members of a race, religion, ethnicity, tribe or nationality.

      Those are all so, shall we say ...
      ... Ambiguous

      Especially in polyglot cultures, such as exist in the modern world.

      Where Barack Hussein Obama is referred to as ...
      "The First Jewish President of the United States"
      while his political enemies call him a Muslim.

      Where lines on the map were drawn for hegemonic political expediency

      Where A. Hitler carried Jewish genetic markers.

      And, the miracle that is modern science tell us that ...
      ... we are all, in a hereditary sense ...

      ....... "Out of Africa" .......

    2. As to the polling and the current status of knowledge amongst college students ...

      All I can do is reference the remark of George Bernard Shaw

      Youth is wasted on the young

    3. The other line that comes to mid ...
      That written by Thomas Gray in his poem ...
      "Ode on a Distant Prospect of Eton College"

      "Where ignorance is bliss, 'tis folly to be wise."

    4. And when Rat types?

      Typed Diarrhea comes forth.

      It is amazing how one person can type so much and say nothing.

    5. First penned in 1742, Mr Gray's line about Ignorance reminds us that ...

      The more things change, the more they stay the same

      Originally a French proverb ...
      plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose
      Used by the French novelist Alphonse Karr in the 19th century

      It was also referenced in George Bernard Shaw's 'Revolutionist's Handbook' of 1903.

    6. quot is continuing his study of the Hegelian Dialectic,
      Attempting the practice of its principles as he goes.

    7. To each his sufferings: all are men,
      Condemned alike to groan;
      The tender for another's pain,
      The unfeeling for his own.
      95 Yet ah! why should they know their fate?
      96 Since sorrow never comes too late,
      And happiness too swiftly flies.
      Thought would destroy their paradise.
      No more; where ignorance is bliss,
      'Tis folly to be wise.

    8. If the desert rat said "nothing" ...

      .... then quot would not react so vehemently ....
      ..... to the words and ideas expressed.

      No, i think the words drive a stake through his heart
      And all he is left with, in response ....

      Outrageous remarks, hateful slurs, mocking, sneering, racial insults, un-humorous "jokes," accusations, slander and the Godlike condemnations that have always been such a big part of his literary repertoire.

    9. Rat says: Outrageous remarks, hateful slurs, mocking, sneering, racial insults, un-humorous "jokes," accusations, slander and the Godlike condemnations that have always been such a big part of his literary repertoire.

      And rat says: desert ratWed Oct 02, 12:15:00 PM EDT
      Hey, Farmer Fudd!
      When you start your own blog, you'll need a name ...
      I have a suggestion ...
      IdahoRapeWatch blogger
      Stories of women in Idaho getting raped, while you watch the cat piss on your slippers.
      It's a title of a blog that fits the storyline of your life.


    10. Let's not forget Rat's "Bibit he Dictator of Palestine" comment.

      Seems its the Rat that is calling the kettle black...

    11. desert ratSun Oct 06, 12:39:00 PM EDT
      on matters of Federal policy, Fascist Farmer Robert and the President are on the same page.

      The only problems our Fascist Farmer Robert has with the President are that he is black, a Democrat and a Christian that is also an Affinity Jew that happens to respect Islam, in public.

      Fascist Farmer? Outrageous remarks, hateful slurs, mocking, sneering, racial insults, un-humorous "jokes," accusations, slander and the Godlike condemnations that have always been such a big part of his literary repertoire.

  26. “Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster. And if you gaze long enough into an abyss, the abyss will gaze back into you.”

    “In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule.”


  27. In all the fencing over Hegel's Dialectic, the indispensable conclusion has been omitted: the Hegelian Triad: thesis, antithesis, synthesis.

    1. Does not mean you do not practice the principles of the Hegelian Dialetic, quot.

      Just that you are happy

      Ignorance is bliss.


    2. Why quot does this mean we're not friends anymore?


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    1. As to Bibi being the ....

      ....Dictator of Palestine ......

      Well, quot told us that Bib was a "strong Man"

      wiki tells us ...
      A strongman is a political leader who rules by force and runs an authoritarian regime. The term is often used interchangeably with "dictator"

      Israel, we know from President Truman is a portion of Palestine.
      We know that Israel is the de facto authority in the Palestinian Territories

      Therefore ...
      Bibi is the Dictator of Palestine,

      by simple progression ...
      .. of the facts on the ground and the language used by quot.

    2. Mis-direction, out of context

      A lie by any other words.

      But your words as you "string" them paint you as the Israel hating troll you are.

      I stand with Israel. You stand with terrorists.

  29. The Hegelian Dialectic might do in a pinch when describing the development of an individual, but breaks down badly when describing world history, where, as my book on prostate problems states, "A sweating ovary and a sick prostate explain most of the history of the world."

    desert ratSun Oct 06, 12:39:00 PM EDT
    on matters of Federal policy, Fascist Farmer Robert and the President are on the same page

    rat is clinically insane.

    I've been railing against Obama for six straight years.

    The ONE thing I've credited him with is taking the wolves off the Endangered Species List.

    And I doubt he even knew that happened.

    rat is totally NUTZ

    1. And loves to hear himself speak.

      Why don't you just go away again, and leave this place in peace.

      It was so wonderful then........

      All you succeed in doing is making a Laughing Stock out of yourself.

      Continue with your Hegelian studies, let your hatred drift away......

    2. Come on, Anonymous, you can do better than that!

      Or maybe you Kant


  30. Casino wasn't kind, but the Seahawks should be on today, so all is not lost.

  31. You to are funny
    You both would like to dismiss the desert rat. Saying the words have no meaning
    The concepts expressed are empty.

    That it is just a
    "Tempest in a Teapot"

    But one thing is perfectly clear...
    The words, ideas and concepts expressed ...

    ....have both of you "steamed"....

    1. Rat: You to are funny

      I think you should have used the word "two". English not being your 1st language it's understandable that you cannot tell the difference between to, too or two.

  32. "... If the ideas, interpretations of experiences, and the sources are all wrong, can a conclusion based on all these wrong premises be sound? The answer is no. Two false premises do not make a sound conclusion even if the argument follows the formula. Three, four, five, or six false premises do not all combine to make a conclusion sound...Just because an argument fits the formula, it does not necessarily make the conclusion sound. Georg Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel knew this when he designed his dialectic...Hegel is an imperialist con artist who established the principles of dialectical "no-reason." Hegel's dialectic has allowed globalists to lead simple, capable, freeborn men and women back into the superstitious, racist and unreasonable age of imperial global dominance... "

    "People are living in a snarled-up subset of Marx's thinking, and do not know it. They twist logic to get to conclusions that will suit the current prejudices. They garnish it with a little Christianity or mysticism or whatever, though these play no important part in their world outlook."___Raapana and Friedrich (2005)

    "...the State 'has the supreme right against the individual, whose supreme duty is to be a member of the State... for the right of the world spirit is above all special privileges.'"___Hegel

    "Hegel believes that human self-consciousness has developed through history – i.e., the completion of God or the whole takes time. Further, Hegel holds that certain races or peoples have developed farther than others, and the one that has developed the greatest capacity for self-consciousness (and all that this implies: science, philosophy, art, religion) is what he calls “the Germanic peoples.” He gives every indication that he believes that this is due to innate differences between human groups...Negroes are to be regarded as a race of children who remain immersed in their state of uninterested naïveté...Among the Negroes moral sentiments are quite weak, or more strictly speaking, non-existent...He writes of the Negroid race that “their mentality is quite dormant, remaining sunk within itself and making no progress, and thus corresponding to the compact, undifferentiated mass of the African continent. And elsewhere he asserts that their condition “is capable of no development or culture, and as we see them at this day, such have they always been..."
    ___Nationalism & Racialism in German Philosophy:Fichte, Hegel, & the Romantics (2012). Hawthorne

    1. Hegel's dialectic has allowed globalists to lead simple, capable, freeborn men and women back into the superstitious, racist and unreasonable age of imperial global dominance... "

      Then, allen I found this, which not so profound, but more of a tactical description of the HD

      Hegelians are taught to use any stupid argument at their disposal that enrages their assigned opposite "side," their job is to fuel established conflicts and say anything they want, as long as it keeps the masses distracted.

      The more outrageous their behaviors, the more outrageous the response is from their gullible public followers. This is why hateful slurs, mocking, sneering, racial insults, un-humorous "jokes," accusations, slander and Godlike condemnations are such a big part of their repertoire.

    2. Marxism has relied on gibberish from the get go. The NAZI were great advocates of Hegel, given his fondness for the "superiority" of Germanic racial superiority.

      Mao was only partially correct: it is not power which comes from the barrel of a gun; it is the absolute power of socialism in the forms of Marxism and national socialism which get and maintain power through the barrel of a gun.

  33. LAKEWOOD, Wash. - A Joint Base Lewis-McChord soldier was stabbed to death in a parking lot at the 12500 block of Pacific Highway Southwest around 2:30 a.m., officials say.

    20-year-old Tevin Geike was walking with two other white soldiers along Pacific Highway SW when a group of black men drove by and shouted a racial comment toward the soldiers, the Lakewood Police Department said.

    "One of the soldiers yelled back something about the suspects treating combat soldiers with disrespect," Lt. Chris Lawler said.

    The car turned around and the men confronted the soldiers, according to reports. As the verbal confrontation ensued, the driver of the vehicle realized the men were actually combat veterans and called his friends off. While the men headed back to their vehicle, one of the suspects appeared to have bumped into Geike, witnesses say.

    The soldiers saw Geike fall to the ground as the car sped away. He was bleeding profusely from stab wounds and died at the scene.

    "We came down here, and he was already dead in my brother's arms," said Glenn Zimmerman, a friend of Geike.

    Friends say there was a party at the Biltmore Motel that evening, and Geike was gathering with family and friends after being discharged from the military. Zimmerman said Geike's contract was up, and he was celebrating serving his country.

    "I don't understand how someone can do this - that man, he almost gave his life for people to enjoy the freedoms they have and he was just stabbed for no (expletive) reason," he continued.

    The initial remark that started the encounter seemed derogatory in nature, said Lakewood police Lt. Chris Lawler. He said it was too early to say that race was the motivating factor, but investigators were exploring whether the killing should be classified as a hate crime.

    "We are certainly considering it, for sure," Lawler said.

    Police are searching for a midnight blue BMW-type sedan or VW Jetta-type car with four doors, tinted windows and stock rims, and low profile tires.

    All five suspects are black men in their 20s, police say. The main suspect is believed to be in his early 20s, about 6'1", medium build, and was wearing a blue zip-up hoodie. The driver was described as having short cropped hair, and wearing a blue and white horizontal striped shirt.

    Detectives were in the area Saturday looking for businesses or others who might have video from around the time of the stabbing. Lawler said the person who stabbed the soldier should come forward and show remorse now.

    "He's going to get caught," Lawler said. "Nobody's going to give up until we catch up."

    1. Good thing this crime was reported to the police.
      Now that the police know of the crime, they may be able to catch the perpetrators.

      Just think, if the crime had not been reported to the police ...
      ... those assailants would get off scot-free!

  34. But no Hate Crime charges will be filed.
    There won't be enough evidence or some such shit reason.

    1. When the assailant is captured, who will be able to "read" his thoughts?
      How can there be evidence of what was on the mind of the assailant?

      The real crime is murder, not "Malicious" and "Hateful" thoughts.

      The motive for murder, not nearly as important as the crime, itself.

    2. But as one who is on our blog that did such hate crimes in central america has said, if you are not caught? it aint a crime.

    3. To make the motive a crime, that will be hard to find evidence for.

      To convince a jury, ..."beyond a reasonable doubt" ... difficult at best.

    4. The motive for murder, not nearly as important as the crime, itself.

      True enough.
      Hate crimes carry a stiffer punishment though, as I'm sure you're aware of.
      The hate came out of the comments from the vehicle to kick off a confrontation of races.
      After that is a lawyers playgound.

    5. When one hires one's self out as a murderer for hire?

      No hate is involved, be that murder in one's own nation or not.

      We all KNOW that those that do those activities should not be allowed to enter into civil society and should be restricted to 350 acres in the SW.

      Sadly the loophole was the internet.

    6. "Bleed, cracker" might be a tip off.

    7. Sure, but murder is already capital crime, here in AZ.
      Don't know about Washington state

    8. Here you go, fabrications by Anonymous, typical of haters ...

      While the men headed back to their vehicle, one of the suspects appeared to have bumped into Geike, witnesses say.
      The soldiers saw Geike fall to the ground as the car sped away. He was bleeding profusely from stab wounds and died at the scene.

      While Anonymous reports there was a conversation, not reported in the editorial content of ...
      "Bleed, cracker"
      But not reported by the witnesses to the crime.
      Anonymous made it up, whole clothe.

      That in and of itself,could be classified as a "HATE CRIME" by a vengeful prosecutor.
      Be careful what you wish for, dimwit.

    9. Wasn't reporting a conversation, dumbfuck. Was just creating a generic racial slur.

      God, you're fucked up.

      What I've read is some sort of racial slut being through about by the black attackers, which I find wholly believable.

      Everybody knows what the hate crimes laws are about.

      Why not go to sleep somewhere yourself.

      You put people to sleep here.

  35. Then there is this interpretation of "Hate Crimes..

    The plaintiffs allege that the 2009 Hate Crimes Act was clearly intended to intimidate Christians and their religious leaders into remaining silent concerning their religious belief that homosexual conduct is sinful.

    “This statute is all about elevating certain persons (homosexuals) to a protected class under federal law based on nothing more than their choice to have sex with persons of the same gender, while marginalizing strong religious opposition to this immoral choice,” states the opening brief, filed by the Thomas More Center with the Sixth Circuit.

    “Under the guise of enforcing ‘niceness’ and promoting ‘tolerance,’ homosexual advocacy groups have mobilized their financial power to purchase political clout which they now use to shut down any criticism of their deviant lifestyle,” said Richard Thompson, President and Chief Counsel of TMLC. “The truth is they are one of the most intolerant groups in our society and viciously attack anyone who opposes their point of view.”

    1. Or this view of Hate Crime legislation in the United States ...

      The federal government and nearly every state have hate crime laws, passed with the noble aim of preventing crimes motivated by bias.

      But a New York Times columnist questions the wisdom of such laws, used in the prosecution of Dharun Ravi, the Rutgers University student who used a webcam to spy on his roommate during a gay romantic encounter.
      The roommate later committed suicide, and Ravi faces up to 10 years in prison.

      Columnist Bill Keller says he views the verdict as an attempt to use “handy bias statutes” to punish someone for an unexplained death.

      “It’s not a great reach to say that Ravi faces up to 10 years in prison for being a jerk,” he writes.

      Keller relies on reasoning laid out by former University of Illinois law dean Heidi Hurd, now a professor at the law school. She points out that the laws punish not only what people do, but also who people are. The laws ratchet up the penalties for crimes committed by people thought to have an evil disposition, the column says.

      Keller sees the laws as ....
      “something from an Orwell dystopia. Horrific crimes deserve stern justice, but don’t we want to be careful about criminalizing a defect of character?”

      Iin other words ...
      Just another way for government to limit Freedom and Liberty in the name of "Safety & Security"

    2. ...but don’t we want to be careful about criminalizing a defect of character?”

      That's an interesting thought.
      There is just too many damn laws in the first place, imo.

  36. “The truth is they are one of the most intolerant groups in our society and viciously attack anyone who opposes their point of view.”

    I haven't seen too much evidence of that.

  37. One man's perception of hate is another man's reasonable position.

    That is what makes "Hate Crimes" so ambiguous.
    If there is an insidious crime, prosecute it to the fullest extent possible...
    .... but to prosecute "Thought" puts US on a slippery slope to prosecutorial tyranny.

  38. Hegel was NOT an anti-Semite. To the contrary, he staunchly supported Jewish emancipation and full integration into German society. His academic objective was the creation of a new philosophy to replace that of Aristotle. Unlike Marx, he was not a materialist.

    Nietzsche was NOT an anti-Semite. He found the age-old survival of Jews a wonder.

    The work of both men was selectively utilized to deadly nefarious ends. Nietzsche's "uber mensch" was a morally superior being, not to be confused with the "master race".

    1. As far as Nietzsche is concerned, while he was sick his sister came to his aid.
      Elisabeth Forster Nietzsche, she married Bernhard Förster, who was, without doubt disfavored the Judaic.

      Friedrich Nietzsche, the German philosopher, was the victim of "criminally scandalous" manipulation by his anti-Semitic sister who condemned him to being considered a forerunner to the Nazis, a new book has claimed.

      By David Wroe in Berlin

      6:30AM GMT 19 Jan 2010

      Elizabeth Förster-Nietzsche, who went on to become a prominent supporter of Adolf Hitler, systematically falsified her brother's works and letters, according to the Nietzsche Encyclopedia.

      Christian Niemeyer, the publisher, said he wanted to clear the revered thinker's reputation by showing the "criminally scandalous" forgeries by his sister had tainted his reputation ever since.

      "Förster-Nietzsche did everything she could – such as telling stories about Nietzsche, writing false letters in the name of her brother, and so on – to make it seem that Nietzsche had been a right-wing thinker like herself," he told The Daily Telegraph.

      "It was she who created the most destructive myth of all: Nietzsche as the godfather of fascism."

      The Nazis selectively used Nietzsche's writings to bolster their ideology and built a museum in Weimar to celebrate the philosopher, though it is unlikely Hitler himself read much, if any, of Nietzsche's work.

      Elizabeth Förster-Nietzsche edited her brother's writings after his mental breakdown in 1889 and quickly began to add, remove and change passages to align his philosophy with her own beliefs and those of her virulent anti-Semite husband Bernhard Förster.

      Along with her husband, she founded a Utopian "Aryan" colony in the Paraguyan jungle called Nueva Germania in 1887. It was a disaster: her husband committed suicide in 1889 and Förster-Nietzsche returned to Germany. When she died in 1935, Hitler attended her funeral.

      While it has been known to Nietzsche scholars that Förster-Nietzsche meddled with her brother's work, particular after his death, the new encyclopedia – consisting of entries by about 150 scholars – shows the sheer breadth and depth of her forgeries as never before

    2. ...good catch on Nietzsche...thanks...

  39. People that actually think are not anti-semitic.

    1. I think that a nation that exported $7.47 billion dollars in military hardware in 2012, including to our enemy China, is one that could survive a $3 billion haircut in military aid.

    2. Then America would have no influence on it.

      And those 3 billion dollars mostly spent in the USA would not provide jobs, just like yours....

      And if America cut ONLY Israel and continued to fund the arabs? Mostly Israel would have to "liquidate" those military assets that America was giving to the Arabs.

      So maybe America GETS something for it's military aid to Israel?

      Personally? I advocate the reduction of aid to Israel as well as all arab and islamic peoples and nations.

      But that also has to include America's giving almost 1 trillion, (1000 BILLION) to the oil sheiks of the arab world.

      But you only rant about aid to Israel. Cause you are a one trick pony...

  40. Nietzsche wasn't so hot on Christians though, however much he admired Jesus.

    "There was only one Christian and he died on the cross."

    1. Ah, the old No True Scotsman fallacy. Even syphillis boy fell for it.

    2. Did he have the syph, Miss T? I don't know for certain.

    3. "God is dead." - Nietzsche, 1882.

      "Nietzsche is dead." - God, 1900.

  41. It's thought Nietzsche ended up dying of syphilis gotten from a whore.

    Story is he ended up kissing a horse in Rome or somewheres, mumbling.

    At that point he might have appreciated a good Christian nurse.

    To me, the guy was 90% asshole.

    1. The 10% non-asshole being the perceptive things he said about metaphor.

  42. WiO: The actual destruction of the rock of mecca is not the thoughts of a sociopath.

    A fireball hot enough to vaporize the black rock, protected as it is by the Kaaba, must needs also vaporize the folks who live across the street. And that requires a sociopath to focus on a rock to the exclusion of thousands of innocent children of God.

    1. But it pales in comparison to wiping out all of Washington D.C. with a large meteor from Heaven.

      Can we agree on that much?


    2. "Where is that asteroid when we need it? I mean a big honking smokin' fireball to burn the bitch down."

      I'll take my chances in Mecca, rather than D.C.


    3. Well, whether one views Arabs as sub-human or thinks we should roll the clock back before Amendment 13 for 90% of the citizens of DC, we're talking about pretty much the same lack of empathy.

    4. we have long passed the fire ball theory since assholes like Ms T cant view any military strike being moral.

      So Now? Teleport it like on star trek to the sun...

    5. Not to worry the fake lesbian ms T, xenia, Teresita and god KNOWS how many other names... will find something to distort...

      hey Ms, T, so how does it feel to LIE about having cancer?

    6. You lied about being a catholic lesbian for YEARS and then came clean..

      A fraud you are...

      An admitted liar.

    7. Yeah, by the way, what happened to the death cancer?

    8. What I'm saying is I'm glad you seem OK.

    9. I'm hoping to be one of the 40% who survive Inflammatory Breast Cancer five years out from diagnosis.

    10. I had reasons to use OPDEC while posting on BC and EB, and those reasons evaporated when presented by an existential threat, due to the fact that the Creator is all about the truth and I thought we'd be meeting sooner than I though. I'm sure if the sex life of random people on the internet is important to you the NSA can shoot you their dossier.

    11. No, the lie you continued for 2 years is the issue.

    12. the Creator is all about the truth

      And yet you distort, lie and misquote the Hebrew Scriptures all the time.

      I hope the Creator gives you one big ass time out.

  43. Madness reigns
    The sewer rat hath married gibberish
    And Deuce beseecheth the gods of asteroids....
    Only the faithful fertile god fearing farmers stand firm

    1. Who said:

      "For now these hot days is the mad blood stirring"?

    2. Did you get a glorious Indian Summer weekend like we did here at the Whulge, Bob?

    3. Yes, after surviving the MONSOON you sent us about 10 days ago, it has indeed turned glorious. Fall can be wonderful, can it not?

    4. My favorite month is October. My favorite state is Montana. I'd like to do the Going-to-the-Sun Road in October, before it closes.

    5. My doctor lady had gotten back from her vacation and said they had gone to Banff just across the border. Better than Glacier she said. Need a passport though. Going to get one. She said the mountains go STRAIGHT up. Mom said the same thing long. ago. I have an adopted niece now. When she gets back I've hired her as my driver :) Will be next spring though. There and to Las Vegas. She's applied to PhD programs all over the west. All she has to do now is choose. World at her feet.

    6. I like happy endings.

  44. Five things Bill O’Reilly gets wrong in 'Killing Jesus'
    Opinion by Candida Moss, Special to CNN

    (CNN)--Bill O’Reilly’s "Killing Jesus: A History" is the best-selling book in the world right now. But it’s far from flawless.

    The Holy Spirit may have inspired "Killing Jesus," but he didn’t fact-check it.

    Here are five ways it shows:

    1. Not everything Roman historians tell you is true

    Of the first 80 or so pages of "Killing Jesus," only 15 are about Jesus himself. The rest is history, biography, and politics of the ancient Mediterranean. Much of this is gleaned from Roman and Jewish historians like the imperial biographer Suetonius and the Jewish general Josephus.

    These are authors that O’Reilly trusts implicitly. Maybe it’s because Suetonius reads like the National Enquirer, maybe it’s because the Romans loved eagles, but whatever the reason, O’Reilly gives them too much credit.

    The Romans were fantastic record-keepers but had different standards for their history writing. O’Reilly refers to the acta diurna – a sort of proto-newspaper recording political events, marriages, and divorces that was read aloud in public – as evidence for accuracy in Roman record-keeping.

    But he is wrong to see these as transparent statements of fact.

    They were propagandistic: the Roman orator Cicero complains that he is misrepresented in the daily reports, and the Roman governor Pliny retells a story he had heard in which a dog jumped in the river after his deceased owner. It’s a little more Buzzfeed than Wall Street Journal.

    2. Paul was not a Christian

    According to O’Reilly, Paul was “a former Pharisee who became a convert to Christianity.” Paul was not a Christian; he was a Jew who moved from one branch of Judaism to another.

    He never uses the word Christian. It seems that the early members of the Jesus movement referred to themselves as followers of “the Way".

    1. .”

      The word Christian wasn’t used until the end of the first century C.E. The first generation of Jesus' followers lived and died as Jews.

      3. The Pharisees were not self-righteous bloviators.

      The same old caricature of Pharisees as “arrogant,” “haughty,” and legalistic pervades the book. There is biblical support for this view from the Gospels, but O’Reilly and Dugard claim to be writing history and separating ”myth” from “fiction.”

      For the past 30 years, scholarship on the Pharisees has shown that the Pharisees were not hyper-legalistic hypocrites. To make things worse, the authors seem to think that John the Baptist told the Pharisees either to burn or be condemned to hell (a rather peculiar reading of Luke 3:17).

      The irony here is that our modern stereotypes of the Pharisees are grounded in Protestant critiques of Catholicism. Protestant Reformers saw Catholics as just like the biblical Pharisees, championing faith through works, and lumped the two groups together as legalizers and hypocrites. O’Reilly and Dugard, being Catholic, are actually stereotyping themselves.

      4. Jesus was/wasn’t political

      Any follower of Internet memes knows that Jesus can be made to say anything. O’Reilly has vacillated between saying (on his television show "The O’Reilly Factor") that Jesus was not political and arguing in his book that Jesus died to interrupt the revenue stream from the Temple and Rome and that "Jews everywhere long for the coming of a messiah ... [because] Rome will be defeated and their lives will be free of taxation and want."

      Even though there’s no evidence for a direct financial link between the Temple and Rome, there’s no doubt that Jesus advocated for the poor. But O’Reilly needs to make up his mind. Is Jesus the man of the people seeking to liberate the oppressed from a heavy tax burden, or is he a peaceful man of God just trying to make a difference?

      5. History isn’t just a word, it’s a discipline

      O’Reilly acknowledges (correctly) that it’s difficult to look past the agendas of his sources and separate the myth from the history.

      Historians prefer early sources and events that are documented in multiple (preferably independent) sources. O’Reilly puts all of this aside and cherry-picks episodes from whichever Gospel version he seems to prefer.

      He will sometimes omit stories if they seem historically implausible, but he doesn’t do this consistently. He omits Jesus' words, from the Gospel of Luke, as he is being crucified: “Father, forgive them, for they know not what they do.” In his CBS interview he explained that it was impossible for people to speak audibly while they were crucified. Fair enough; but then why does he include Jesus’s final words from the Gospel of John: “It is finished”? Is there something about the word “forgiveness” that sticks in the throat?

      Apart from the methodological problems, the entire book is written in the style of a novel, not a history book. We hear the thoughts of Herod as he orders the execution of the male children of Bethlehem, for instance. It’s entertaining, but it’s historical fan fiction, not history.

      Editor’s Note: Candida Moss is a professor of New Testament and early Christianity at the University of Notre Dame and author of The Myth of Persecution.

    2. Paul was the Christian par excellance, if one considers Christianity to be what was left standing (Paul's network of churches) after the mother Church in Jerusalem was sacked by Rome in 70 AD.

    3. Sounds eminently reasonable.

      I think the lady's comments about the Pharisees interesting.

  45. Want out of ObamaCare?

    Become Amish, those good people.

  46. Hebrew for Christians
    In our Torah portion for this week (i.e., Lekh Lekha) Abram is called ha-ivri (הָעִבְרִי) - “the Hebrew,” a term that means “one who has crossed over” (עָבַר) from another place. Rashi identifies this “other place” as Ur of the Chaldees (אוּר כַּשְׂדִים), located east of the Euphrates River, though the midrash (Genesis Rabbah) symbolically identifies it as the realm of idolatry: “The whole world ...stood on one side, but Abram crossed over to the other.” Abram separated himself from a world steeped in idolatry and polytheism by worshiping the One LORD God who is the sole Creator of all things.... Understood in this way, being “Hebrew” means being regarded as an “other,” a “stranger,” or an “outsider” to idolatrous world culture. Similarly, all those who "cross over" from the realm of death to life because of Yeshua our Savior are rightly called “Hebrews” (John 5:24).

    Call me a Hebrew, I guess.(?)

    1. Not to take anything away from the Amish.
      I live in close proximity to alot of Amish folks.
      Good people as far as I can tell. I haven't lived here very long though.

      The maple syrup is rather expensive.
      They are hard to see at night while driving as their buggies are painted black.

    2. Guess not.

      I'd call you a "christos" a follower of Christ.

      There is neither Jew nor Gentile in the body of Christ, Galatians.

      No need to lift or steal another's people's identity, be strong with your own.

    3. I'd call you a "christos" a follower of Christ.

      Good enough for me.

  47. They ought to have those buggies lit up at night like an eighteen wheeler.

    1. how about non-electrical reflective tape?

    2. They do have one of those reflective triangle symbols on the back but just a lantern in the front.

    3. Yes, I remember the lanterns and the triangle. Tape up the whole buggy. I'm surprised the state allows them on the roads at night.

  48. Franz Rosenzweig (STAR OF REDEMPTION, 1930) would champion Nietzsche not on matters of belief but because Nietzsche had forever changed how philosophy would be understood, and it was the tragedy of Nietzsche’s life that his innovation would assume its place in the evolution of the conscious mind.
    “Since all time poets had spoken of life and their own soul. But not philosophers. And saints had always lived their life and that of their own soul. But once again, not philosophers. Yet here there arrived a man who knew his life and his soul like a poet and obeyed their voice like a saint, and yet he was a philosopher. It almost doesn’t matter today what he philosophized about…Thus man – no! not a man, an entirely specific man became a power dominating philosophy – no!, his philosophy…
    Philosophy had thought it could take hold of man, including man as ‘personality’, in ethics. But that was an impossible aspiration…every ethics ended by emerging again in a doctrine of the community that forms a part of being…
    The history of philosophy had never yet seen an atheism like that of Nietzsche. Nietzsche is the first thinker who – not negates God--but in the really proper theological use of the word: ‘refutes’ him. More precisely: he curses him. ..It is not God’s being, but God’s freedom that leads him to protect himself in this way…like the metalogical before, the metaethical repels the metaphysical and precisely through this makes it visible as divine ‘personality’, as unity—and not as one like the human personality…”

    1. After three readings, well, yes, perhaps.....

  49. Momma rock me