“Soft despotism is a term coined by Alexis de Tocqueville describing the state into which a country overrun by "a network of small complicated rules" might degrade. Soft despotism is different from despotism (also called 'hard despotism') in the sense that it is not obvious to the people."

Saturday, July 12, 2014

If ordinary Americans knew the truth about Israel and the oppression against the Palestinian people:

Now Palestinians must go to the Int’l Criminal Court, and US Should Back Them

Secretary of State John Kerry called the collapse of the latest round of Israeli-Palestinian peace talks “reality-check time” for the peace process. That reassessment should include the self-defeating U.S. policy of opposing steps toward justice and accountability in the name of negotiations. 

U.S. officials claim that the International Criminal Court (ICC) poses a danger to peace talks and are pressuring Palestinians to forego asking the ICC to take jurisdiction over serious crimes by all parties committed in or from Palestinian territory. But those who support negotiations should realize that the greater danger to peace is impunity for serious crimes.

The U.S. position bolsters those who dismiss the ICC as “an empty gun” – as the pro-settlement Israeli economy minister, Naftali Bennett, wrote in an opinion piece last month. The Palestinians, he wrote, will never succeed in stopping Israeli settlements – which the U.S. opposes, and which violate the ICC statute as well as the Fourth Geneva Convention – even if they “go to The Hague.”  Bennett is confident that “the international community” will oppose such a move, which would open “a political Pandora’s box,” and that the Palestinians will ultimately back down out of fear that the ICC would examine crimes committed by their side, such as rocket launches by armed groups in Gaza that harmed Israeli civilians.

In fact, as 17 Palestinian and international rights groups pointed out in a recent letter to the Palestinian president, Mahmoud Abbas, Palestine should go to The Hague precisely because the ICC could impartially mete out justice for serious crimes by all parties – whether settlements, illegal attacks on civilians, or torture – and  potentially deter more of them. 

Yet last month, the U.S. even opposed Palestine’s accession to human rights treaties that would increase pressure to end torture by Palestinians – because it was a move taken outside the negotiations framework. In 2013, the official Palestinian rights ombudsman’s office registered 497 allegations of torture by Palestinian security forces – up from 294 in 2012. There were no criminal prosecutions.

Similarly, the U.S. opposition to the settlements as an “obstacle to peace” should lead it to support Palestinian access to the ICC, whose statute, reflecting the Geneva Conventions which Israel has ratified, forbids the transfer of civilians by an occupying power into occupied territory. On settlements, the U.S. negotiations-only policy has clearly failed.

In January 1988, when there were 180,000 settlers, the U.S. vetoed a Security Council resolution calling on Israel to abide by the Geneva Conventions. The U.S. said the resolution touched on “issues which are, at this time, best dealt with through diplomatic channels.” In veto after veto after veto, the U.S. argued that resolutions criticizing settlements “could encourage the parties to stay out of negotiations.” Today the settler population stands at more than 540,000.

Israel’s settlements policy is not an abstract problem, endlessly open to resolution in the future.  Settlers have gone unprosecuted for thousands of attacks on Palestinians and their property and taken over Palestinian homes, farmland, and water springs. They enjoy subsidies, special infrastructure, and almost six times as much water per capita as Palestinians. At the same time, Israel restricts Palestinian access to farmland, and virtually prohibits Palestinian housing construction, in the 62 percent of the West Bank under its exclusive control, known as “Area C.”

Discriminatory Israeli restrictions mean that at night, some Palestinians light candles while watching people turn on the lights in settlements next door. Palestinians who want to marry and raise families have had to move away from their villages because the Israeli military will not give them permits to build or expand homes.

These bitter experiences don’t make peace negotiations any easier. Yet during the latest round of peace talks, which began last July, the U.S. pressured Abbas to delay seeking ICC jurisdiction for nine months. In that time, Israel promoted plans and tenders for at least 13,851 new settlement housing units, the Israeli group Peace Now reported, and demolished the homes of 878 Palestinians, according to  data collected by the UN. A report by European diplomats on developments in East Jerusalem in 2013 noted “an unprecedented surge in settlement activity” since “the resumption of the peace negotiations.” A U.S. official told The New York Times that “at every juncture” of the recent negotiations, “there was a settlement announcement. It was the thing that kept throwing a wrench in the gears.”

By blocking accountability in the name of advancing the peace process, the U.S. has facilitated the settlements and other war crimes that are undermining the prospects for peace.
The U.S., which has supported ICC jurisdiction in places such as Libya, Sudan, and now Syria, should support it in Palestine. International justice should not be a political game. Justice is an important end in its own right, and a credible ICC prosecution threat could help to advance the cause of peace.

Bill Van Esveld is a Middle East researcher at Human Rights Watch based in Jerusalem.


  1. Tell oh Deuce, Does israel have a right to be a nation of the Jewish People?

    Do you accept them?

    Or should they country be defeated and disbanded, the Jews mass executed?

    1. I think it will be a great think when the Palestinians go to the ICC.

      Every single rocket shot by fatah and hamas are war crimes.

      Every single suicide bombing? A war crime and it's time for the Hamas and Fatah leadership be tried for crimes against humanity.

      Works both ways.

      And of course, Israel should cut off all food, water and fuel given or sold to the palestinians and annex all lands they choose.

      Of course, the world will have to choose. Israel or Palestine to do business with...


  2. .

    I agree with Arron Miller's assessment of the current Gaza situation.

    Five Myths About the Gaza Crisis

    I might quibble a little with numbers 3 and 4 but not by much.

    3. We’re on the verge of a third intifada.

    While a new intifada is unlikely for the reasons he cites, when the rockets start flying shit (in the form of escalation) often happens.

    4. The hawkish Netanyahu is eager to pound Gaza.

    Here I agree that while Netanyahu wants to deal Hamas a major blow, he is not looking for an escalation that could involve a full scale invasion of Gaza. But Netanyahu is being pushed by a coalition dominated by right wingers and settlers groups. He will do what he has to do to maintain his governing coalition.


  3. Fuck the Palestinian people.

    They breath hate, they eat hate, they love and live hate.

    Israel is the only good country in the Middle East.

    There are a billion Hundus out there, most very wonderful people.

    Choose you girl friends carefully.

    1. Israel is a state founded on terrorism, sustained by terrorism

      The Zionists MURDERED 252 Jewish refugees, for propaganda purposes.

      Without regrets or apologies.

    2. And you are living on stolen Injun land.

      Fuck off, asshole.


      This new computer is son bitch.

      But I am getting the hang of it now.

      Lost all my two hundred email addresses though.

      I need a secretary.

    3. The Israeli NASI have murdered 1,500 Palestinian children in the past 13 years.
      The have destroyed 28,000 Palestinian homes, the Palestinians have not destroyed a single Israeli home.

      The Israeli have imposed a blockade on the people of Gaza, that is an act of war.

      Day by day, brick by brick, one person at a time the edifice of Israeli lies is being dismantled.

    4. The head Paleolithic back in WWII supported Hitler and Germany.

      All they do is hate.

      They are international beggars and worthless sons of bitches.

    5. OOOH, Bob is so eloquent, has such piercing insights and can never reference a thing he writes.
      He is so inept and ignorant, he cannot sign into his Google account

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    7. Jack HawkinsSat Jul 12, 10:01:00 PM EDT
      The Israeli NASI have murdered 1,500 Palestinian children in the past 13 years.
      The have destroyed 28,000 Palestinian homes, the Palestinians have not destroyed a single Israeli home.

      Now this is actually funny...

      It's amazing the level of distortion and lies you can write...

      But the more absurd your comments?

      the more Israel sounds like a fine nation.

      Maybe you should take a visit?

      It's a great place. Arabs, Jews, Christians, Bhai's and Druze, all living together, all being shelled by Palestinians together...

  4. They - the 'Palestinians' - are also some of the very best beggars in the world.

    Watch your wallet.

    1. The Israeli have taken US for more than any other beggar in the world.

      Since 1985, it has provided nearly $3 billion in grants annually to Israel, (28 x $3 billion = $84 BILLION) with Israel being the largest annual recipient of American aid from 1976 to 2004 and the largest cumulative recipient of aid since World War II.

      Talk about watching our wallet!

    2. Grants?

      Military aid is given and spent in America.

      It's an investment.

      We spent more in Iraq than all was ever spent in Israel since 1948...

      But don't let facts get in the way of a good slur....

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    1. your daughter

      Cheers !!

    2. How are the cattle on the stolen land?

      Is it really true you are a queer?

      That is the big rumor, you know.

    3. You not the 'Real" Bob then, so fuck off False Flag faker.

      If you were Bob, you would sign in, but since you don't you're not him.

    4. Wow, Rat jack is getting pissy....

      Must be off his meds..

      Hey Rat Jack, that trip to Israel? you should go and let the Israelis cure your insanity...

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  7. Sirens blare in Jerusalem, rockets land in Hebron and Bethlehem

    "Rockets landed in Hebron and Bethlehem, the IDF Spokeperson said. Four rockets landed in total in the attack- three in Palestinian areas and one near a Jewish West Bank settlement."

    How will the Court handle Palestinians attacking Palestinians? Oh, without doubt it will be the fault of the Jews, but the spectacle should be entertaining. For those unaware, Hebron and Bethlehem are located within the PA.

    I just know the thoughts and prayers of the EB are directed toward the safety of the mosques located on the Temple Mount. It would be such a terrible atrocity should the Jews force Hamas to destroy them.

    1. If they had sirens in Gaza, they'd be blaring, too.

    2. But Jack, they don't need sirens, they WANT their kids to die, it makes great photo ops....

    3. And the NASI oblige them, that's the ticket.
      Give 'em what they want.

      Pull your head out of your as and get a breath of fresh air and think about that.
      Your side just "Step and Fetch It", why?

      Hamas will not be dismantled, the US will see to that.
      So the entire adventure is purely political, to disrupt the unification of the Palestinian, politically in Palestine. While at the same time strengthening them in the US and Europe.

      Clever are you NASI, not.

      A 2012 report from The David Project, an Israel advocacy organization in the U.S., found that the strongest anti-Israel behaviour in America is found in universities.
      Does not bode well for your future.

    4. Pull your head out of your ASS and get a breath of fresh air and think about that.

    5. America's university system has gotten hostile to Israel. And Christians And traditional value.

      pull your head out of your ass if you think today's saul alinsky's infected colleges bodes well for America. It aint an Israel issue.

  8. Israeli bombing turns Gaza into ghost town

    This is just so heartbreaking. Why must life be so unfair? Why one can’t fire missiles at Israel and still have a happy holiday is a cosmic puzzle? Damned Jews!

    “In Israel, hundreds of rockets fired by Gaza militants also send civilians running into bomb shelters and staying close to home. However, there have been no fatalities there, while the death toll in Gaza topped 120 on Saturday from the five-day offensive.”
    Oh my…Allah can be so capricious. Damned Jews!

    "We don't need houses," Daoud said. "What we need is a country. I wish I were a young man, so I could wear a suicide belt and go blow myself up in Tel Aviv."
    Now, that is a plan, if ever there were. Damned Jews!

    1. That' right, the damned NASI have driven people to desperation.
      Enjoy the fruits of your domination, occupation and participation in apartheid.

    2. If the Zionist had not stopped them, the Jew of Warsaw may have fought, but the supplies were embargoed by the Zionists.
      At least that's what Rabbi Moshe Shonfeld wrote in his book In Holocaust Victims Accuse (1977). Figure he'd know, better than you youngsters.

      In Zionism in the Age of the Dictators by Lenni Brenner, he points out that . “During the world war, Zionism showed its real meaning: for the sake of its ambitions, it sacrificed the blood of millions of Jews.”

      Even Ariel Sharon spoke of it.
      , Barry Chamish writes that, about a year before he became Prime Minister of Israel, Ariel Sharon said that had Jabotinsky been head of the Jewish Agency instead of Ben-Gurion, millions of Jews would have been saved from the Holocaust.

      Then, in 1940, the Zionists murdered 252 Jewish refugees. They had escaped Nazi Germany, but not those that would kill Jews for political gain. The Zionist murdered them, death came to them by the Zionist NASI, as surely as if they had been at Auschwitz.

    3. If the Zionist had not stopped them, the Jews of Warsaw may have fought, but the supplies were embargoed by the Zionists.

    4. Sorry Charlie, tricks are for kids...

      Your lies and distortion are desperate.

      Like a broken record you repeat and repeat nonsense.


      Israel is strong, alive and a wonderful nation in a sea of arab shit.....

      EVERYONE knows that.....

      The freest arabs? LIVE IN ISRAEL....

      In syria, lebanon, egypt, jordan, arabia etc, the palestinians are treated like dirt by their fellow arab brothers..

      aint that a kick in the shorts?

      Arabs in Israel? are citizens...

      and are being bombed by their brother palestinians..


  9. False Flag Bob want to discuss the legitimacy of the United State of America.
    Find someone that gives a fuck about you, False Flag Bob.

    If you can figure out how to the 'real' Bob, I still wouldn't give a shit.
    But it would add some legitimacy to your ranting, it would not be assumed you are "O" uncover.

    1. If you can figure out how to BEthe 'real' Bob, I still wouldn't give a shit.

    2. Jack, come on, we all know you use 30 or so sign ons...

      and I still can see with in one to two words it is your shit you are writing....

      and it's still crap..

    3. Who cares about the sign on, except when the author claims to be another, which they are not.

      If False Flag Bob is the 'real' Bob, he should sign on. If he does not, he could easily be a false flag, a fraud.
      And what the False Flag says should not be attributed to the 'real' Bob.

      If you want to use "O"riginal's moniker, you can, but that does not make you the "O"riginal. You do not use that account, you use another, different account, so you cannot be credited with being the "O"riginal.

      If you wish to bundle the monikers that other folk have used, and give credit to some figment of your imagination, go ahead.
      But that is your story, not mine.

      While that detracts you, keeps you off the subject matter at hand, it is all the better for my side of the debate.
      I am looking for the one reader that thinks, the reader that can be swayed, today.

      You act like we are on an elementary school yard. Works for me.

  10. here is a great video of Israel taking out a ammo/munitions store inside a residential house in the gaza strip..

    check out the 2ndary explosions..

    hid weapons in a home?

    it's a military target..

    paybacks are a bitch motherfuckers.

    1. When houses are used for military purposes, they may become legitimate military targets under international law. The IDF only aims its attacks against legitimate military targets as defined under the relevant rules of international law. In order to accurately determine military targets, the IDF employs advanced methods, including multiple levels of intelligence, the provision of legal advice, and extensive prior training provided to operational commanders.
      Even when a house is considered a lawful military target, the IDF makes great efforts to minimize potential harm to the surrounding civilian population. For example, the IDF may use real-time visual coverage in order to assess the civilian presence at a target. The IDF also carefully chooses weaponry and ammunition that will help to minimize any harm to civilians. In certain instances, the IDF also provides advance warning before striking a target.
      Many of the IDF’s efforts in this regard go beyond its legal obligations and the accepted practice of other militaries operating in urban areas. Unfortunately, Hamas exploits many of the IDF’s attempts to provide advance warning by using civilians as human shields in order to deter attacks.

    2. Israel' occupaton of the West Bank is in violation of international law
      The blockade of Gaza i an act of war.

      The Israeli speaks with a forked tongue.

    3. Usually, the IAF will drop a dud round on a rooftop to give 10 minutes' notice of incoming fire. The family that was killed several days ago attempted to act as a human shield on the rooftop of their home (munitions dump). Unfortunately, the incoming round was pre-programed. Life can be so unfair. There is, happily for the Palestinians, a lesson in this misfortune: don't store long-range missiles in the baby's room.

    4. Jack HawkinsSat Jul 12, 11:04:00 PM EDT
      Israel' occupaton of the West Bank is in violation of international law
      The blockade of Gaza i an act of war.

      The Israeli speaks with a forked tongue.

      More funnys from the jack rat..

      The problem is that Israel DOESNT occupy Gaza.

      I think they should.

      It's time for Israel to cut the strip into 3, take back the land given to the palestinians and reestablish a jewish presence in the Gaza Strip.

  11. UN Security Council calls for Israeli-Palestinian ceasefire

    Of course they are. Gee, if only they had been as deeply concerned over the past 18 months as Hamas lobbed thousands of missiles into Israel. Why, in that event, this dust-up would not be happening. But since it was Jews being threatened with loss of life and limb the UN Security Council took no interest. Now that Palestinians are being killed, well, action cannot come too soon. Muslim life is sacred, don’t you know. Moreover, the historic lapse of a good ole bloody Jewish pogrom is becoming irritating.

    To be helpful, why not appoint Dr. Rice and Mr. Sarkozy to work out a deal. After all, they did a bang-up job in Lebanon in ‘06. They did such a good job containing Hezbollah that tens of thousands of Syrians have been murdered by this neighborhood watch group, armed-up by Iran and recruited by Assad to butcher his own people. Of course, the UN will have to work quickly because it appears that Sarkozy is going to jail and Dr. Rice has slipped into footnotes.

    Although it sounds harsh, I do not think most Israelis give a shit what the UN Security Council wants. That opinion is based upon polls conducted in Israel as opposed to the gut feelings of cretins and bigots. Jews tend to be practical folk. It only takes a missile or two to piss them off.

    Having failed twice to bring an end to the sorrow that is Gaza, Netanyahu is going to be toast.

    1. What did the UN do to save the civilians of Syria?



      The UN security council?

      I call bullshit

  12. Replies
    1. No, just noticing allen is in withdrawals, again.

    2. What we see is your meltdown.

      Why no mention of my vocation rat? Scared of pissing off the AZ FBI again?

      LOL retard

  13. The Elephant Bar
    Wednesday, December 31, 2008
    Day 5 - In Gaza, Israel says "Not today, thanks."
    Another wonderful day in the neighborhood.

    GAZA CITY, Gaza Strip – Israeli leaders decided to reject an immediate 48-hour pause in fighting and push ahead with the devastating air offensive against Hamas, sending jets and assault helicopters to pound targets in the Gaza Strip for a fifth day Wednesday.

    Israel is facing growing international pressure to halt the assault and Prime Minister Ehud Olmert discussed a cease-fire proposal — floated by France's foreign minister — with his foreign and defense ministers overnight. The meeting ended with a decision to continue operations, government officials said, and a top forum of Cabinet ministers entrusted with security matters will discuss the continued offensive Wednesday.

    2008 - What is "Occupation" =
    2014 - What is "Occupation" =

    They're not the same, so either is "O".

    1. your deranged...

      but thanks for allowing me to waste your time...


    2. LOL it fun to fuck with the rat jacks mind, what little there is left...


      too stupid by half...

    3. The situation is the same, Israel is killing civilians in Gaza, claiming it is the victim' fault..

      But the Israeli contingent at the Elephant Bar has rotated, we have new voices, now.
      What is surprising, they claim to be the old voices, when the proof is plain that they are not.

    4. LOL

      delusional, but the fact that i got inside your brain?


  14. It looks like Israel will be going after the big command and control located under the main hospital in gaza...

    no more hiding behind women, babies and old people, Israel has warned the folks of northern gaza to head south or to the beach to avoid being injured...

    looks like it's going to get bloody real soon.

    I hope the palestinian people listen to the IDF and evacuate and get out of the way of the war.

    After Hamas raised the stakes again tonight by launching attacks against tel aviv and jerusalem civilian populations and openly called for killing all israeli civilians Israel is taking off the gloves...

    1. Jut what Hamas wants, the NASI will be doing their bidding.
      And not gain a thing by it.

      2008 redux.

    2. Just what Hamas wants, the NASI will be doing their bidding.

    3. Getting dumber by the day rodent...


      I stand with Israel, you support terrorists.

    4. You re an Israeli fraud.

      Israel Pays Students For Pro-Israeli Social Media Propaganda

      The move was publicised in a statement from Israeli prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu's office, the Associated Press reported. Students will receive scholarships to "engage international audiences online" and combat anti-Semitism and calls to boycott Israel

    5. yawn...

      keep telling yourself that Rat.

  15. You can check out that 2008 thread, it reads just like this 2014 thread, but ...

    desert rat is there!

    1. Neither is bobal, What is "Occupation", whit, gag reflex, 2164th, Michelle Renee, Mətušélaḥ, trish, or Anonymous who wrote: 酒店經紀 酒店打工 酒店工作 酒店上班 酒店兼差 酒店兼職 打工兼差 打工兼職 酒店應徵 禮服店 酒店 經紀 打工 兼差 台北酒店 兼職.

    2. Come Israeli, admit it, you are a fraud!
      Truth is in the numbers. Account numbers.

    3. Come ON Israeli, admit it, you are a fraud!
      Truth is in the numbers. Account numbers.

    4. Anther Israeli False Flag is flying, right here at the Elephant Bar.
      The proof is ni the account numbers, "O" claims to be someone he is not.

      If he is the same contributor, let him sign in with the "O"riginal account.
      But he cannot, because he is a False Flag fraud.

    5. What in HELL are you talking about now, gay as a goose with a screw loose Jack Hawkins?

      What's with the Chinese?

      Even my Niece doesn't know Chinese.....yet.

    6. She is learning German though.

      That will make six languages.

      She is really great that way.

    7. English, Hindi,. Bengali, two others I can't remember right now, and then German.


    8. Rufus knows Curse.

      Jack 'Rat' Hawkins knows Hate, and Bullshit.

    9. It's actually funny.

      rufus called me an israeli cause i didn't cap america.

      now rat.jack.farmerrob.hegemony.and numerous other signons is convinced i am not who i am.. LOL

      now when ms t was a lesbian he had no problem accepting her as a straight gal.

      we all KNOW rat the moment he posts as any one of a dozen names.

      but me? I am the super spy...


  16. By the way, the International Criminal Court is a farce.

    And say, Jack Hawkins, when are you going to pay me for the Zimmerman bet you lost?

    You remember the time, you bet me the Feds were going to prosecute Zimmerman.

    I said no way, no evidence.

    We all know now you are gay as a goose with a screw loose, but you should honor your bets.

    Don't you think?

    1. It is what, er, hmmm, gentlemen, do, is it not?

      You lose a bet, you pay.

      Send the sweet hundred dollars to Deuce, he can act as middle man. In fact he can keep the money if he wants. The alfalfa came in good.

    2. When are you going to admit,that Obama nd Holder are not racists?

      The "bet", what were the stakes, document it please.
      And the Feds will not have 'passed on prosecution' until they return the weapon, which has not happened.

    3. Cut and paste that "bet", If there is such a post, and it is documented and you can prove you are the same contributor, we'll work it out, after Zimmerman get his gun back.

    4. after Zimmerman gets his gun back.

      Got problems with that 's'.

    5. I mean really, Name/URL Bob, who the fuck are you?

    6. There was nothing in our bet about Zimmerman getting his gun back.
      The bet was whether they were going to prosecute at the Federal level, or not.

      I think the bet must have been for a hundred, as I never bet for anything less.

      If you want to wait for another two year until Obama is out of office, that is fine too.

      They are not going to prosecute now, and not in two years.

      They may well get prosecuted themselves, but Zim is a free man.

      You know ZERO about evidence.

      You are just trying to walk out on your bet, as we all knew you would.

    7. No, cut and paste it, then prove you are who you say you are
      Sign in.

    8. I made no bet with False Flag Bob, a Name/URL anonymous piece of shit, that claims to be a long time contributor, here.
      Oh, no. You have to document the bet, then document your identity.
      Sign in then paste the documentation.

      Then we will dicus whether Zimmerman is 'off the hook', but until you provide documentation, you are no one.
      Certainly not "Bob, the Boobie".

    9. Some gay gentleman you are. You are definitely not Kaba-chan. or even Hape Kerkeling.

    10. Nor are you Farmer Fudd.
      You are an anonymous piece of loathsome flotsam,

    11. You have now admitted their was a bet, and you lost, bright boy.

      I know you remember it.

      You know you remember it too.

    12. Come False Flag Bob, get that account number.
      It is all about identity theft, and you are trying to steal Bob'.
      Just as wi"O" hha tried to stea the "O"riginal's identity.

      Both of you frauds have failed, now that you both have been found out.

    13. It is all about identity theft, and you are trying to steal Bob's.

      He told us that he had been hacked, now here is the proof he had.
      Some fraudulent hackster i trying to scam us, make u believe 'Bob' is back from his vacation.
      The real Bob is off the grid, fly fishing.
      Now that hackster, the same fraudulent schemer that ran Bob's credit cards is trying to run a con, a scam on the Elephant Bar!

  17. If you could sign into a Google account, you'd find stuff like this being posted ...

    Roland Taylor
    4 hours ago - Google+
    Israel says evacuate, Hamas says "Nah, stay put!", and the world believes Israel to be at fault.

    Whoever Roland Taylor is, he has the stage and he is telling the story that Google want 'out there'.
    The world think Israel is at fault, there you have it.

    A stranger telling the tale, Google broadcasting it to millions of readers.

    "Step and Fetch it, Bibi!"

    1. Just who the fuck is Roland Taylor?

      One of your bed mates, gay goose?

    2. Some stranger that Google put out there, False Flag Fraud.

      We are done with you, you hackster, you identity thief.

  18. .

    Ah, I see you girls have the usual circle jerk going.

    Just as well. At least it keeps you off the streets.


    1. The son bitch owes me some money.

      How would you feel?


    2. Who the fuck are you, certainly no one we know.
      You are an internet identity thieve.
      Already tried to rip off Bob, now you are scamming the EB.

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    4. It was back at the time Rufus wanted to hang Zimmerman without a trial.

      Yup, I'm Bob.

      I will try to have my new set up tomorrow.

      I think Rufus knows less about the rules of evidence than even you.\

      The whole trial was a farce and a political show trial.

    Unfortunate but Unsurprising? Obama Undermines the ICC
    The U.S. Should Not Join the International Criminal Court

    As I recall, India, China, Russia, the US, and Israel are not members of the ICC, among others.

    1. IIRC there was a time there when the International Criminal Court wanted to put George W. Bush on trial for 'war crimes'.

      We will recall how the US Congress backed his actions in a fair vote.

      I think the UN voted approval too but can't recall for certain.

      This was a real laffer when we recall how Saddam gassed the Kurds. Though it didn't generate much laughter in what is now Kurdistan.

      If Deuce is for the ICC, I am against it.

    2. In fact, if Deuce is for something these days, I feel I can't go far wrong in opposing it.

  20. Bob,

    I said I fought in Central America with the USA, but I cannot recall my unit. I have fallen down and need help.

    1. I do recall, go to the link provided, you can read the story.

      You re not deserving of more than that.

    2. I trained troops in Central America, never said I fought.
      You can try to document your claim, the threads are all available for viewing

    3. you said you killed people in central america... not soldiers, people....

  21. Really pissed.

    I might even put an end to it forever if I was able.

  22. But the analogy flawed, you can't and neither can the Israeli.
    Because they are cowards.

    Half-steppers. they took casualties, today.
    It'll set 'em back on their ground offensive.

  23. If you were really "Bob" you know all about cowardice, being a draft dodger.
    But you are False Flag Bob, a fraud and hackster, a man of no account.

  24. Little girl/boy, you are the only person here who might actually get a charge out of sucking Ruf's cock.

    Go do that.

  25. Any more insults?

  26. You were never in Central America.

    You made it all up.

    You're gay as a goose on the loose.

    You're a joke.

  27. July 13, 2014
    France Speaks the Truth about Hamas and Israel
    By Michael Curtis

    Israel is not yet the land of croissants, camembert, and châteauneuf du pape. Nevertheless, the strongest, unequivocal support it has received in the current fighting with Hamas has come from French President François Hollande. That unequivocal support may help influence and correct the many Western advocates of moral equivalence, those blaming Israel and the terrorist group Hamas equally for the outbreak and the continuing violence in Israel and the Gaza Strip.

    Even accepting the premise of legitimate differences of opinion about the conflict and responsibility for the outbreak, this does not entail a moral calculus of equivalence of blame between the contending parties. Political commentary on the present hostilities and policy-making should be based on real events, behavior, and objectives.

    It is undeniable that Hamas for at least a decade has been relentless in its aggression against the State of Israel, even after total Israeli withdrawal of its troops from the Gaza Strip and the dismantling of all Israeli settlements there in August 2005.

    There is no secret about Hamas’s real objectives. Even those sympathetic to the Palestinian cause may now be aware of the songs being sung on the Hamas TV station: “Fire your rockets, make them explode…victory is from Allah…O Martyrdom seeker, O blaze, hurry, blow up Tel Aviv.” Hamas has given fair warning to Israeli citizens: “wait for suicide attacks on every bus, café, and street…start counting the number of coffins you’ll need.”

    1. The key disquieting factor in the present situation is the increase in the capacity, as well as the determination, of Hamas with its 16,000 rockets to inflict harm on Israel. The rockets fired by Hamas from Gaza have become more accurate and more deadly in their increased range and can strike deep in Israeli population centers. The rockets made in Gaza have a range of only about 12 miles; they were able to reach the towns of Sderot and Ashkelon. The newer rockets that Hamas has obtained from Syria (M-302s) have a range of more than 90 miles; those received from Iran (FAJR-5s) have a range of 45 miles. Life in central and southern Israel has been disrupted, as schools have been closed and people are obliged to stay in their homes.

      The dilemma for Israel is how to respond to the threat of these rockets that can reach the areas in the country in which about two thirds of the population, about five million, live. The strong Israeli response has focused on eliminating the rocket-launching sites, military facilities in general, Hamas militants, and the underground tunnels on the Egyptian border that have been used to smuggle arms.

      Israel has retaliated by an intensive aerial assault against the targets in Gaza as well as by using the Iron Dome missile defense system that intercepts projectiles aimed at populated areas. In two days of fighting, Israel has hit 750 sites in response to the 400 rockets launched by Hamas.

      A serious public relations problem for Israel is that Gaza civilians as well as terrorists have been killed in the raids. Israel has attempted to avoid this outcome. But the reality is that Hamas has deliberately endangered Palestinian civilians. It has fired rockets from inside houses and in neighborhoods populated with civilians. Its armed militants often dress as civilians. Hamas is aware that as a result of the deaths of Gaza civilians, the international environment automatically becomes more critical of Israel.

    2. The Arab world has been reluctant to aid Hamas, or has paid only lip service to it. President Abdel Fattah el-Sisi of Egypt, who sees Hamas as an accomplice of his enemy the Muslim Brotherhood, has made this plain. Syria and Iraq have their own problems, as the Arab world is in turmoil. The Arab League secretary-general, Nabil al Arabi, limited himself to calling for an emergency meeting of the U.N. Security Council “to adopt measures to stop Israeli aggression against the Gaza Strip.” No doubt the Council will express “deep concern.” Though President Abbas has accused Israel of genocide, he has not engaged in any action.

      Lukewarm expressions of sympathy for Israel have come from the major democratic countries, including the United States. However, these are usually accompanied by expressions of moral equivalence; the conflict is said to have brought suffering to both Israelis and Palestinians. The moral equivalence argument is that more than 70 people, including children and civilians, have been killed in the Gaza Strip, while hundreds of rockets have been fired into Israeli territory.

      Yet the moral equivalence is never precise. The call for Hamas and Palestinian militias to put an immediate end to the rocket attacks on Israel is clear. It is less clear what “obligations under international law” Israel should respect in order to avoid the excessive use of force and to protect civilians in the Gaza Strip.

      The U.S., through spokesperson Jen Psaki in a press conference on July 9, 2014, exemplifies the careful equivalence. Psaki urged both sides to de-escalate tensions and expressed concern for the safety of civilians on both sides. Israel had the right to defend itself against rocket attacks. Nevertheless, “we are concerned about the safety and security of civilians on both sides – the residents of Israel who are forced to live under rocket fire in their homes and the civilians in Gaza.” Both sides needed to calm the crisis. Among other things, Psaki, voicing the policy of the Obama administration, said that a wider Israeli military campaign might destabilize political control in the Palestinian Authority.

      Though British Prime Minister David Cameron also strongly condemned “the appalling attacks being carried out by Hamas against Israeli civilians,” the most important exception to the morally equivalent position has been President François Hollande. He had already shown his goodwill in Israel in November 2013, speaking in Hebrew in his airport declaration and saying, “I will always remain a friend of Israel.” He opposed the movement to boycott Israel goods, even those coming from Israeli settlements.

      Hollande has during his presidency taken the lead in a fight against radical Islamist terrorists, and Hamas falls in that category. He joined the international chorus in calling for the parties to avoid the escalation of violence. However, he went farther. On July 9, 2014, in a telephone call to Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, he issued a strong message of support for Israel, which he said should take all measures to protect its population faced with rocket attacks from the Gaza Strip. France, he said, firmly condemns these aggressions.

      France has once again taken the high road and demonstrated the meaning of the symbolic words coming from the French Revolution: liberty, equality, fraternity.

      Michael Curtis is author of Jews, Antisemitism, and the Middle East.


  28. Jack 'desert rat' Hawkins is a draft dodger and deserter.

    Deserter rat his buds called him.

  29. deserter rat the coward, they called him

  30. Last I checked, I'm an ordinary American, and I think the Israelis ought to bomb the place to rubble.


    By Agencies

    3:38AM BST 13 Jul 2014

    The Israeli military says four soldiers have been lightly wounded in fighting in northern Gaza.

    The military says the soldiers were hurt during a brief incursion to destroy a rocket launching site. It says they have returned to Israeli territory.

    It is the first time that Israeli ground troops are known to have entered Gaza in the current offensive. But the operation was carried out by special forces and did not appear to be the beginning of a broad ground offensive.

    Saturday was the bloodiest day since the conflict erupted on Tuesday, with 52 Palestinians killed.

    Both sides have dismissed calls for a truce, and Israel continued to build up troops along the Gaza border ahead of a possible ground invasion, warning Palestinians in northern Gaza to evacuate their homes. <<<<<<<<<<<<<

    1. 60 years of this shit is enough.

      Next year will be the same.

      Might as well end it.

      From the air.

  31. Jack 'deserter rat' Hawkins, draft dodger, is an extra-ordinary American.

    The only 'man' in the Army to desert his unit which he can't remember the name or number of.

    A real deserter rat, Jack 'desert deserter rat' Hawkins.

  32. Egyptians Hoping Israel Will Destroy Hamas

    by Khaled Abu Toameh
    July 13, 2014 at 12:30 am

    Over the past week there are voices coming out of Egypt and some Arab countries -- voices that publicly support the Israeli military operation against Hamas in the Gaza Strip.

    They see the atrocities and massacres committed by Islamists on a daily basis in Iraq and Syria and are beginning to ask themselves if these serve the interests of the Arabs and Muslims.

    "Thank you Netanyahu and may God give us more [people] like you to destroy Hamas!" — Azza Sami of the Egyptian newspaper Al-Ahram.

    Isolated and under attack, Hamas now realizes that it has lost the sympathy of many Egyptians and Arabs.

    Ah, the world is changing

  33. Jack Hawkins aka desert rat is an embarrassment to the human race, that is certain.

    He walks the streets of Phoenix after midnight looking for a quick pickup.

  34. When the Egyptian authorities reluctantly and briefly re-opened the Rafah border crossing a few days ago, Hamas spokesman Fawzi Barhoum rushed to declare: "The Egyptian authorities opened the Rafah border crossing only to receive bodies. Egypt is imposing a blockade on the Gaza Strip and has destroyed the tunnels."

    Former Palestinian Authority security commander Mohamed Dahlan predicted that the Egyptians will not do anything to save Hamas. "Egypt won't intervene to stop the war on the Gaza Strip because Hamas was conspiring with the Muslim Brotherhood against Egypt," he said. "Hamas was working with Muslim Brotherhood against the Egyptian army."

    1. Obama wanted the Muslim Brotherhood to run Egypt.

      He didn't get his wish.

    2. yep and the egyptian have not forgotten or forgiven.

      hamas is the daughter of the moslem brotherhood.

  35. An embarrassment to his mother.

  36. And his father as well, anon.

  37. To the entire human race.

  38. ah... eating their own...

    12:21 p.m. Palestinian sources reported on Sunday that Palestinian factions in Gaza executed a Shin Bet collaborator shortly after his arrest.

    “The collaborator was operating on the ground,” said one source, without going into further details.

  39. The IDF escorted 670 Arabs with dual nationality from foreign countries out of Gaza and away from the Hamas war front and safely in to Israel Sunday morning.
    The dual citizens left through the Erez Crossing, the northern border of Gaza, and include those with citizenship form the United States,...


    How Hamas Lost the World’s Support

    srael’s diplomatic maneuvering room during Operation “Protective Edge” has been allowed thanks to Hamas’ aggression, Netanyahu’s restraint, and the new wind blowing out of Cairo. This extra time must be used to bring about the disarmament of Hamas.

    The diplomatic capital and maneuvering room from the international community which Israel enjoys at the moment during Operation “Protective Edge”, is given in thanks to the geopolitical realities of the region, Hamas’ aggression, and the balanced, restrained responses by Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, who isn’t easily swayed by political pressure applied by his own coalition.

    It seems that the IDF learned well the lessons of Operation “Cast Lead”, which led to an unfortunate amount of Palestinian casualties and brought with it the infamous Goldstone Report, which accused Israel, and the heads of state, of committing war crimes. The relatively low number of casualties in Gaza during the operation so far, despite the IDF’s’ intensive attacks, which are even stronger than the IDF attacks during “Cast Lead”, result from the precise and optimized use of advanced warning such as “Knock on the Roof”, and avoiding direct hits on schools, hospitals and mosques, even when it is a known thing that rockets and other weaponry are being hidden there.

    In light of the IDF’s responsible conduct, Hamas is finally seen, not only in Western media, but in the Arab media as well, as a cynical, cruel, and irresponsible organization. An organization that uses a civilian population as human shields, and even calls for them to use their bodies to protect Hamas leaders and their war fighting capabilities, which are well-hidden and protected in underground tunnels and warehouses set in the midst of a civilian populace.


    So sorry Hamas. Your days are numbered.

    Now if you are a fan of the Palestinian people? Cheer on the IDF. It's the ONLY hope the palestinians have.

  41. Hamas is losing.

    Not even the Egyptians want them.

    The Egyptian military doesn't want them.

    The Egyptian military seems to be working with the Israelis.

    If so this is extremely bad news for Hamas.

    Deserter rat aka Jack Hawkins, if he were there, would dig a tunnel and escape to the Sea.

  42. Obama wanted the Muslim Brotherhood to run Egypt.

    He didn't get his wish.

    Not even Obama can control Allah !!

    ha ha !!

  43. Looks like it might be a bad week for the Hamas supporters here, Deuce, deserter rat Hawkins, and a few others.

    A bad bad week.

    1. Turn to propaganda.

      That is the only response.

    2. Show little dead kids and stuff.

      Arms and legs missing, blood all over....

      Turn to out and out propaganda.

    3. Say it is all the Jews fault, all of it.

      Talk about 'The Plan'.

      Most average Americans won't buy it, but that is the only choice left now.

  44. Hamas is losing.

    Not even the Egyptians want them.

    And Deuce is can I possibly respond to this........delete button looks bad.....ah, change the about wild horses in fashions in Paris, France......

  45. Turn to Czarina Alina.......

    Turn to myth.......

    Turn to the monomyth.......

    Turn to Purina Pet Food......

    Turn to.......Quirk for God's Sakes........

  46. Melody....Music, please !!!!!

  47. 0:18 is Montana.

    I've been there.

  48. Right outside of Missoula Montana, where the eagles eat well.

  49. Someday

    When we meet up yonder

    We will stroll hand in hand again

    In a land with no soul partin'

  50. Streets of Laredo

    O beat the drum slowly......

  51. "The term ‘Palestinian’ as a noun was usurped and co-opted by the Arabs in the 1960s as a tactic initiated by Yasser Arafat to brand Jews as intruders on someone else’s turf. He presents Arab residents of Israel and the Territories as indigenous inhabitants since time immemorial. This fabrication of peoplehood allowed Palestinian Arabs to gain parity with the Jewish people as a nation deserving of an independent state.

    In a March 1977 interview in the Dutch newspaper Trouw, Zahir Muhsein, a member of the PLO executive committee, admitted:

    “Only for political and tactical reasons do we speak today about the existence of a Palestinian people, since Arab national interests demand that we posit the existence of a distinct Palestinian people to oppose Zionism.” "

  52. There is No Age-Old Palestinian People. Most So-Called Palestinians are Relative Newcomers to The Land of Israel
    Palestinian Arabs cast themselves as a native people in “Palestine” – like the Aborigines in Australia or Native Americans in America. They portray the Jews as European imperialists and colonizers. This is simply untrue.

    Until the Jews began returning to the Land of Israel in increasing numbers from the late 19th century to the turn of the 20th, the area called Palestine was a God-forsaken backwash that belonged to the Ottoman Empire, based in Turkey.

    The land’s fragile ecology had been laid waste in the wake of the Arabs’ 7th-century conquest. In 1799, the population was at it lowest and estimated to be no more than 250,000 to 300,000 inhabitants in all the land.2

    At the turn of the 20th century, the Arab population west of the Jordan River (today, Israel and the West Bank) was about half a million inhabitants and east of the Jordan River perhaps 200,000.3

    The collapse of the agricultural system with the influx of nomadic tribes after the Arab conquest that created malarial swamps and denuded the ancient terrace system eroding the soil, was coupled by a tyrannous regime, a crippling tax system and absentee landowners that further decimated the population. Much of the indigenous population had long since migrated or disappeared. Very few Jews or Arabs lived in the region before the arrival of the first Zionists in the 1880s and most of those that did lived in abject poverty.

    Most Arabs living west of the Jordan River in Israel, the West Bank (Judea and Samaria) and Gaza are newcomers who came from surrounding Arab lands after the turn of the 20th century because they were attracted to the relative economic prosperity brought about by the Zionist Movement and the British in the 1920s and 1930s.4

    This is substantiated by eyewitness reports of a deserted country – including 18th-century reports from the British archaeologist Thomas Shaw, French author and historian Count Constantine Volney (Travels through Syria and Egypt, 1798); the mid-19th-century writings of Alphonse de Lamartine (Recollections of the East, 1835); Mark Twain (Innocents Abroad, 1867); and reports from the British Consul in Jerusalem (1857) that were sent back to London.5

    The Ottoman Turks’ census (1882) recorded only 141,000 Muslims in the Land of Israel. The real number is probably closer to 350,000 to 425,000, since many hid to avoid taxes. The British census in 1922 reported 650,000 Muslims.

    Aerial photographs taken by German aviators during World War I show an underdeveloped country composed mainly of primitive hamlets.6 Ashdod, for instance, was a cluster of mud dwellings, Haifa a fishing village. In 1934 alone, 30,000 Syrian Arabs from the Hauran moved across the northern frontier into Mandate Palestine, attracted by work in and around the newly built British port7 and the construction of other infrastructure projects. They even dubbed Haifa Um el-Amal (‘the city of work’).

    The fallacy of Arab claims that most Palestinians were indigenous to Palestine – not newcomers - is also bolstered by a 1909 vintage photograph of Nablus, today an Arab city on the West Bank with over 121,000 residents. Based on the number of buildings in the photo taken from the base of Mount Gerizim, the population in 1909 – Muslim Arabs and Jewish Samaritans – could not have been greater than 2,000 residents.8

    Family names of many Palestinians attest to their non-Palestinian origins. Just as Jews bear names like Berliner, Warsaw and Toledano, modern phone books in the Territories are filled with families named Elmisri (Egyptian), Chalabi (Syrian), Mugrabi (North Africa). Even George Habash – the arch-terrorist and head of Black September – bears a name with origins in Abyssinia or Ethiopia, Habash in both Arabic and Hebrew.

  53. The Jews seem to be winning.

    I have sent the good news to my Niece.

    Understandingly enough, she don 't much like the muzzies.

    Though she does say the ones in India 'aren't so bad'.

    'The ones in the Middle East are the worst.'

    But I think she simply hasn't come up against the worst yet.

    The muzz is still badly outnumbered in India.

    1. You just wait.

      If they get a grip in India, via population dynamics, the old song will repeat itself again.




    2. Then the Hindus will have to fight again.

      As they did many centuries ago.

      And they won.

      The Buddhists, those peaceful, wonderful people, headed East, and North to the mountains.

      Buddhism is the Protestantism of Hinduism.

      Those that are left in India.......I would hope they would stand and fight this time along with their Hindu brothers and sisters....

      India just elected a pretty good guy as their Prime Minister.......

      I hope he does well and does not blow it......

  54. .

    There is No Age-Old Palestinian People. Most So-Called Palestinians are Relative Newcomers to The Land of Israel

    The same can be said of the Jews. The rest nonsense and propaganda.

    At the time of the mandate, the population of the original mandate was approximately 80% Muslim, 10% Christian, and 10% Jews. By 1948, the Jewish population grew to about a third almost entirely through immigration. The Arab (Muslim) population also increased primarily through natural growth and still maintained a 2 to 1 majority.

    In 1922, the Arabs owned nearly 70% of the land and the Jews around 5%. In 1948, the Jews owned 7-8% of the land though the split that was being discussed by the UN would have given the Jews about 55% of the land.

    Sell your bullshit somewhere else WiO.


    Pure nonsense and propaganda.

    The area in question was called Palestine on and off going back millenia. Palestine was the name used for the area since mandate times.