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Sunday, July 24, 2016

COCKBURN ABSOLUTELY NAILS IT: Why is a “mass extinction” of independent states taking place in the Middle East, North Africa, and beyond?

The implication embedded in that term is that the process is a self-destructive one. But several of the states now labeled “failed” like Libya only became so after Western-backed opposition movements seized power with the support and military intervention of Washington and NATO, and proved too weak to impose their own central governments and so a monopoly of violence within the national territory.

Iraq taught us nothing: Neoliberalism, interventionism and America’s crumbling empire

Iraq taught us nothing: Neoliberalism, interventionism and America's crumbling empire

This piece originally appeared on TomDispatch

We live in an age of disintegration. Nowhere is this more evident than in the Greater Middle East and Africa. Across the vast swath of territory between Pakistan and Nigeria, there are at least seven ongoing wars — in Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, Yemen, Libya, Somalia, and South Sudan. These conflicts are extraordinarily destructive. They are tearing apart the countries in which they are taking place in ways that make it doubtful they will ever recover. Cities like Aleppo in Syria, Ramadi in Iraq, Taiz in Yemen, and Benghazi in Libya have been partly or entirely reduced to ruins. There are also at least three other serious insurgencies: in southeast Turkey, where Kurdish guerrillas are fighting the Turkish army, in Egypt’s Sinai Peninsula where a little-reported but ferocious guerrilla conflict is underway, and in northeast Nigeria and neighboring countries where Boko Haram continues to launch murderous attacks.

All of these have a number of things in common: they are endless and seem never to produce definitive winners or losers. (Afghanistan has effectively been at war since 1979, Somalia since 1991.) They involve the destruction or dismemberment of unified nations, their de facto partition amid mass population movements and upheavals — well publicized in the case of Syria and Iraq, less so in places like South Sudan where more than 2.4 million people have been displaced in recent years.

Add in one more similarity, no less crucial for being obvious: in most of these countries, where Islam is the dominant religion, extreme Salafi-Jihadi movements, including the Islamic State (IS), al-Qaeda, and the Taliban are essentially the only available vehicles for protest and rebellion. By now, they have completely replaced the socialist and nationalist movements that predominated in the twentieth century; these years have, that is, seen a remarkable reversion to religious, ethnic, and tribal identity, to movements that seek to establish their own exclusive territory by the persecution and expulsion of minorities.

In the process and under the pressure of outside military intervention, a vast region of the planet seems to be cracking open. Yet there is very little understanding of these processes in Washington. This was recently well illustrated by the protest of 51 State Department diplomats against President Obama’s Syrian policy and their suggestion that air strikes be launched targeting Syrian regime forces in the belief that President Bashar al-Assad would then abide by a ceasefire. The diplomats’ approach remains typically simpleminded in this most complex of conflicts, assuming as it does that the Syrian government’s barrel-bombing of civilians and other grim acts are the “root cause of the instability that continues to grip Syria and the broader region.”

It is as if the minds of these diplomats were still in the Cold War era, as if they were still fighting the Soviet Union and its allies. Against all the evidence of the last five years, there is an assumption that a barely extant moderate Syrian opposition would benefit from the fall of Assad, and a lack of understanding that the armed opposition in Syria is entirely dominated by the Islamic State and al-Qaeda clones.

Though the invasion of Iraq in 2003 is now widely admitted to have been a mistake (even by those who supported it at the time), no real lessons have been learned about why direct or indirect military interventions by the U.S. and its allies in the Middle East over the last quarter century have all only exacerbated violence and accelerated state failure.

A Mass Extinction of Independent States

The Islamic State, just celebrating its second anniversary, is the grotesque outcome of this era of chaos and conflict. That such a monstrous cult exists at all is a symptom of the deep dislocation societies throughout that region, ruled by corrupt and discredited elites, have suffered. Its rise — and that of various Taliban and al-Qaeda-style clones — is a measure of the weakness of its opponents.

The Iraqi army and security forces, for example, had 350,000 soldiers and 660,000 police on the books in June 2014 when a few thousand Islamic State fighters captured Mosul, the country’s second largest city, which they still hold. Today the Iraqi army, security services, and about 20,000 Shia paramilitaries backed by the massive firepower of the United States and allied air forces have fought their wayinto the city of Fallujah, 40 miles west of Baghdad, against the resistance of IS fighters who may have numbered as few as 900. In Afghanistan, the resurgence of the Taliban, supposedly decisively defeated in 2001, came about less because of the popularity of that movement than the contempt with which Afghans came to regard their corrupt government in Kabul.
Everywhere nation states are enfeebled or collapsing, as authoritarian leaders battle for survival in the face of mounting external and internal pressures. This is hardly the way the region was expected to develop. Countries that had escaped from colonial rule in the second half of the twentieth century were supposed to become more, not less, unified as time passed.

Between 1950 and 1975, nationalist leaders came to power in much of the previously colonized world. They promised to achieve national self-determination by creating powerful independent states through the concentration of whatever political, military, and economic resources were at hand. Instead, over the decades, many of these regimes transmuted into police states controlled by small numbers of staggeringly wealthy families and a coterie of businessmen dependent on their connections to such leaders as Hosni Mubarak in Egypt or Bashar al-Assad in Syria.

In recent years, such countries were also opened up to the economic whirlwind of neoliberalism, which destroyed any crude social contract that existed between rulers and ruled. Take Syria. There, rural towns and villages that had once supported the Baathist regime of the al-Assad family because it provided jobs and kept the prices of necessities low were, after 2000, abandoned to market forces skewed in favor of those in power. These places would become the backbone of the post-2011 uprising. At the same time, institutions like the Organization of Petroleum Exporting Countries (OPEC) that had done so much to enhance the wealth and power of regional oil producers in the 1970s have lost their capacity for united action.

The question for our moment: Why is a “mass extinction” of independent states taking place in the Middle East, North Africa, and beyond? Western politicians and media often refer to such countries as “failed states.” The implication embedded in that term is that the process is a self-destructive one. But several of the states now labeled “failed” like Libya only became so after Western-backed opposition movements seized power with the support and military intervention of Washington and NATO, and proved too weak to impose their own central governments and so a monopoly of violence within the national territory.
In many ways, this process began with the intervention of a U.S.-led coalition in Iraq in 2003 leading to the overthrow of Saddam Hussein, the shutting down of his Baathist Party, and the disbanding of his military. Whatever their faults, Saddam and Libya’s autocratic ruler Muammar Gaddafi were clearly demonized and blamed for all ethnic, sectarian, and regional differences in the countries they ruled, forces that were, in fact, set loose in grim ways upon their deaths.
A question remains, however: Why did the opposition to autocracy and to Western intervention take on an Islamic form and why were the Islamic movements that came to dominate the armed resistance in Iraq and Syria in particular so violent, regressive, and sectarian? Put another way, how could such groups find so many people willing to die for their causes, while their opponents found so few? When IS battle groups were sweeping through northern Iraq in the summer of 2014, soldiers who had thrown aside their uniforms and weapons and deserted that country’s northern cities would justify their flight by saying derisively: “Die for [then-Prime Minister Nouri] al-Maliki? Never!”

A common explanation for the rise of Islamic resistance movements is that the socialist, secularist, and nationalist opposition had been crushed by the old regimes’ security forces, while the Islamists were not. In countries like Libya and Syria, however, Islamists were savagely persecuted, too, and they still came to dominate the opposition. And yet, while these religious movements were strong enough to oppose governments, they generally have not proven strong enough to replace them.

Too Weak to Win, But Too Strong to Lose

Though there are clearly many reasons for the present disintegration of states and they differ somewhat from place to place, one thing is beyond question: the phenomenon itself is becoming the norm across vast reaches of the planet.
If you’re looking for the causes of state failure in our time, the place to start is undoubtedly with the end of the Cold War a quarter-century ago. Once it was over, neither the U.S. nor the new Russia that emerged from the Soviet Union’s implosion had a significant interest in continuing to prop up “failed states,” as each had for so long, fearing that the rival superpower and its local proxies would otherwise take over. Previously, national leaders in places like the Greater Middle East had been able to maintain a degree of independence for their countries by balancing between Moscow and Washington. With the break-up of the Soviet Union, this was no longer feasible.

In addition, the triumph of neoliberal free-market economics in the wake of the Soviet Union’s collapse added a critical element to the mix. It would prove far more destabilizing than it looked at the time.

Again, consider Syria. The expansion of the free market in a country where there was neither democratic accountability nor the rule of law meant one thing above all: plutocrats linked to the nation’s ruling family took anything that seemed potentially profitable. In the process, they grew staggeringly wealthy, while the denizens of Syria’s impoverished villages, country towns, and city slums, who had once looked to the state for jobs and cheap food, suffered. It should have surprised no one that those places became the strongholds of the Syrian uprising after 2011. In the capital, Damascus, as the reign of neoliberalism spread, even the lesser members of the mukhabarat, or secret police, found themselves living on only $200 to $300 a month, while the state became a machine for thievery.

This sort of thievery and the auctioning off of the nation’s patrimony spread across the region in these years. The new Egyptian ruler, General Abdel Fattah al-Sisi, merciless toward any sign of domestic dissent, was typical. In a country that once had been a standard bearer for nationalist regimes the world over, he didn’t hesitate this April to try to hand over two islands in the Red Sea to Saudi Arabia on whose funding and aid his regime is dependent. (To the surprise of everyone, an Egyptian court recently overruled Sisi’s decision.)

That gesture, deeply unpopular among increasingly impoverished Egyptians, was symbolic of a larger change in the balance of power in the Middle East: once the most powerful states in the region — Egypt, Syria, and Iraq — had been secular nationalists and a genuine counterbalance to Saudi Arabia and the Persian Gulf monarchies. As those secular autocracies weakened, however, the power and influence of the Sunni fundamentalist monarchies only increased. If 2011 saw rebellion and revolution spread across the Greater Middle East as the Arab Spring briefly blossomed, it also saw counterrevolution spread, funded by those oil-rich absolute Gulf monarchies, which were never going to tolerate democratic secular regime change in Syria or Libya.

Add in one more process at work making such states ever more fragile: the production and sale of natural resources — oil, gas, and minerals — and the kleptomania that goes with it. Such countries often suffer from what has become known as “the resources curse”: states increasingly dependent for revenues on the sale of their natural resources — enough to theoretically provide the whole population with a reasonably decent standard of living — turn instead into grotesquely corrupt dictatorships. In them, the yachts of local billionaires with crucial connections to the regime of the moment bob in harbors surrounded by slums running with raw sewage. In such nations, politics tends to focus on elites battling and maneuvering to steal state revenues and transfer them as rapidly as possible out of the country.

This has been the pattern of economic and political life in much of sub-Saharan Africa from Angola to Nigeria. In the Middle East and North Africa, however, a somewhat different system exists, one usually misunderstood by the outside world. There is similarly great inequality in Iraq or Saudi Arabia with similarly kleptocratic elites. They have, however, ruled over patronage states in which a significant part of the population is offered jobs in the public sector in return for political passivity or support for the kleptocrats.

In Iraq with a population of 33 million people, for instance, no less than seven million of them are on the government payroll, thanks to salaries or pensions that cost the government $4 billion a month. This crude way of distributing oil revenues to the people has often been denounced by Western commentators and economists as corruption. They, in turn, generally recommend cutting the number of these jobs, but this would mean that all, rather than just part, of the state’s resource revenues would be stolen by the elite. This, in fact, is increasingly the case in such lands as oil prices bottom out and even the Saudi royals begin to cut back on state support for the populace.

Neoliberalism was once believed to be the path to secular democracy and free-market economies. In practice, it has been anything but. Instead, in conjunction with the resource curse, as well as repeated military interventions by Washington and its allies, free-market economics has profoundly destabilized the Greater Middle East. Encouraged by Washington and Brussels, twenty-first-century neoliberalism has made unequal societies ever more unequal and helped transform already corrupt regimes into looting machines. This is also, of course, a formula for the success of the Islamic State or any other radical alternative to the status quo. Such movements are bound to find support in impoverished or neglected regions like eastern Syria or eastern Libya.

Note, however, that this process of destabilization is by no means confined to the Greater Middle East and North Africa. We are indeed in the age of destabilization, a phenomenon that is on the rise globally and at present spreading into the Balkans and Eastern Europe (with the European Union ever less able to influence events there). People no longer speak of European integration, but of how to prevent the complete break-up of the European Union in the wake of the British vote to leave.

The reasons why a narrow majority of Britons voted for Brexit have parallels with the Middle East: the free-market economic policies pursued by governments since Margaret Thatcher was prime minister have widened the gap between rich and poor and between wealthy cities and much of the rest of the country. Britain might be doing well, but millions of Britons did not share in the prosperity. The referendum about continued membership in the European Union, the option almost universally advocated by the British establishment, became the catalyst for protest against the status quo. The anger of the “Leave” voters has much in common with that of Donald Trump supporters in the United States.
The U.S. remains a superpower, but is no longer as powerful as it once was. It, too, is feeling the strains of this global moment, in which it and its local allies are powerful enough to imagine they can get rid of regimes they do not like, but either they do not quite succeed, as in Syria, or succeed but cannot replace what they have destroyed, as in Libya. An Iraqi politician once said that the problem in his country was that parties and movements were “too weak to win, but too strong to lose.” This is increasingly the pattern for the whole region and is spreading elsewhere. It carries with it the possibility of an endless cycle of indecisive wars and an era of instability that has already begun.


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169 comments:

  1. Read that article and Let's hear your opinion on who has a more accurate view of the US and global situation? Trump or Clinton?

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  2. Trump is a madman. He doesn't have a view.

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  3. The fact is: These Never Were "Countries." They were lines drawn on a map by some English Bureaucrat.

    Quelle surprise, that they have no staying power.

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    1. Trump wanted to "go back to Iraq, and get the oil." Does that sound like a "view?"

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    2. Yeah, it sounds like the view your have pushed repeatedly with the latest iteration (just yesterday) being ISIS will get nukes if the US doesn’t engage against them.

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    3. I'm commenting on the sheer ignorance of the "get the oil" statement.

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    4. Glad you finally agree with me. There are no historic Arab nation-states.

      :)

      Iran is next, FREE KURDISTAN.

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    5. And I'm commenting on your consistent exhortation for war because of the oil in the region. Your simplistic approach over the years in this regard is just like Trumps as expressed in his 'get the oil' thought.

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    6. Ash, your friends the Islamists of the world are imploding.

      OIL? Just a catalyst.

      There is (with a tiny exception or two) a dying of the Islamic world. Thus the violence.

      More Moslems are murdered by Moslems than all the westerners combined....

      Saddam Hussein was the world's biggest killer of moslems to EVER WALK THE PLANET.....

      We are talking in the millions here....

      There will be a continuation of dissolving of Islamic nations for the next 40 years. Pakistan? A fake nation is on the radar, Jordan? As well. The national movement of the newly coined people who call themselves "Palestinians"? Just merged with Hamas in a UNITY government that rejects the Jewish State of Israel and are more concerned at murdering Israelis and Jews than BUILDING a nation...

      Islamic nationalism? Not happening. Islamic Caliphatism? POSSIBLE.

      Iran is seeking a non-nationalistic hegemonic control across North Africa thru the middle east and into Asia.

      Arabia (the Sunni part of the equation) is doing the same with an outreach of mosques across the globe (whabbists)

      It is a Samuel Huntington's clash of civilizations....

      And the world is SLOWLY waking up...

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    7. What is "Occupation"Sun Jul 24, 10:43:00 AM EDT
      Glad you finally agree with me. There are no historic Arab nation-states.


      I have news for you, prior to the 18th century, there were no nation states. Modern day nation-states are political constructs of the 18th century . Your preposterous and adolescent claim that Israel was a state for 3000 years and countries such as Iraq and Persia and Roman Palestine, Syria andJudea have different claims to legitimacy is simply historical ignorance

      Syria Palaestina was a Roman province between 135 and about 390.It was established by the merger of Roman Syria and Roman Judaea, following the defeat of the Bar Kochba Revolt in AD 135.

      Modern Israel is a construct of the 1967 war and European colonization of the previous 70 years. An English Protestant, a French Catholic or Polish, Russian Jew are all equally colonialists of different religions.

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    8. There would be no Israel without the British, French and US patrimony.

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  4. "The Clinton / Kaine ticket is everything the Trump / Pence ticket isn't."

    Damn right.

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      Two sides of the same counterfeit nickel.

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    2. Quirk, I hear you are still not sure of your move to Gaza...

      Go EAST young man... Go...

      I am sure you will love their system of government.

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    3. Wisdom continues to escape you as you enter your premature dotage.

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      Why don't you go EAST, asshole.

      I've called Gaza a hellhole, and open air prison. Unemployment is rampant, the water is undrinkable, you get to eat what the Israelis allow through, why in the world would anyone want to go there f they didn't have to.

      Yet, you are constantly telling us what a paradise Israel is. Always, urging everyone to go there and indulge in its bountiful glories. Yet, there you sit year after year getting older and older whining in Ohio.

      What's wrong with this picture?

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    5. Gaza is a hellhole for some because Hamas wants it to be that way.

      If I need to? I will go east...

      But I called you "young man", you reply asshole..

      Getting bitter?

      You still don't have an clear picture of Gaza, but I guess you never will.

      the markets overflow with goods and food.

      google this: gaza markets

      look and learn.

      Now let's be honest, Israel COULD do more, sell more electricity and water to the strip

      http://time.com/4301139/gaza-water-crisis/

      but since Hamas doesn't PAY it's bills and uses BILLIONS of it's aid to tunnel, build bombs and rockets, why should Israel do anything to help?

      Egypt SHARES a border with the Gaza Strip, if their is a water crisis? Go west young man...

      go west.

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  5. QuirkSun Jul 24, 11:08:00 AM EDT

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    Two sides of the same counterfeit nickel.

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    His Ethical Highness is alive and well !

    Everybody is a dick but His Ethical Highness

    (gets damned boring, is what it gets)

    FREE ONE WAY TICKET TO GAZA STILL AVAILABLE FOR QUIRK

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    1. Earlier SMIRK had rung his single simple chime.

      These two boys, THE SMIRK'n'QUIRK TWINS, are two sides of the same counterfeit nickel, while thinking they represent the only gold coin in the realm.

      (gets damn boring, is what it gets)

      Answering Deuce's question above, my view is:

      Trump

      He at least is correct in his view that O'bozo took the troops out to soon, leading directly to the rise of ISIS.

      And it seems unlikely he could have, or would have, mucked up in Libya as Hillary has done.

      In short, Hillary owns Libya, Trump owns Trump Tower.

      Where would you rather spend some relaxing time ?





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      QuirkSun Jul 24, 12:59:00 PM EDT

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      Why don't you go EAST, asshole.

      I've called Gaza a hellhole, and open air prison. Unemployment is rampant, the water is undrinkable, you get to eat what the Israelis allow through, why in the world would anyone want to go there f they didn't have to.

      Yet, you are constantly telling us what a paradise Israel is. Always, urging everyone to go there and indulge in its bountiful glories. Yet, there you sit year after year getting older and older whining in Idaho.

      What's wrong with this picture?

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      I'll tell you what's wrong with the picture.

      You two whining hypocrites know that I'm right when I say EVERY country in the ME is the same. Same shit, different tribes.

      No one in their right mind would want to move from the US to Israel. The only ones who do it are the religious nutjobs.

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      Of course, the last sentence is merely my opinion but it is drawn from the available demographics on the people moving there and where they are moving.

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    5. .

      Which brings up an interesting point.

      Evidence.

      Whenever you make a statement of 'fact' you should be willing to back it up with evidence when your comment is challenged. However, WiO and Bob don't. They don't think they emote.

      When challenged to provide evidence of their assertions they go to the casino or simply disappear for a while.

      Their latest claim follows a line they have made before and contains the false assumption that when I call bullshit on their bullshit regarding Gaza/Hamas it must mean that I support Gaza/Hamas .

      Occam's Razor on the other hand would say that the logical conclusion (in the absence of conflicting evidence that they continuously refuse to provide)is that I am simply constantly calling bullshit on their bullshit because they are constantly offering up bullshit here.

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  6. Last Free Wampum Day of the month.

    Cheers !

    Later....

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  7. http://news.sky.com/story/syrian-refugee-wielding-machete-kills-woman-10511527

    Syrian Refugee Wielding Machete Kills Woman
    The man has been arrested and was apparently acting alone, with police saying there is no evidence pointing to terrorism.



    Getting closer to the west everyday.

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      :o)

      Syria?

      Hell, WiO, wake up and smell the coffee. We've go plenty of nuts in this country already.

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    2. Did you miss the link and the word "refugee"?

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      :o)

      Germany?

      Hell, WiO, wake up and smell the coffee. We've got plenty of nuts in this country already.

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  8. Deuce ☂Sun Jul 24, 12:01:00 PM EDT
    There would be no Israel without the British, French and US patrimony.


    There would be no America without the British, French and US patrimony

    And there would be no Israel if the german and the arabs had succeeded in murdering all Jews...

    There would be no Israel if the 850,000 Jews of the Arab occupied middle east didn't drive them/ethnically cleansed them from their homes.

    There would be no Israel if the arabs, with the Brits assistance had succeeded in wiping out the reborn state in 1948.

    There would be no Israel if the arabs, in their war of 1956 didn't lose.

    There would be no Israel if Egypt, Iraq, Jordan had succeeded in 1973 to genocide the Jewish state.

    There would be no Israel in 1982 if the Syrians had successfully wiped Israel of the map.

    There would be no Israel in.. Well you get the point.

    Deuce has a problem that jews from around the world emigrated to Israel.

    Get over it.

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    1. No, I have a problem with you. Quit trying to disguise criticism of your obvious deficiencies behind your claim to be a Jew.

      That wasn’t the argument. You claimed exclusivity to nation state status for Israel. You continue to be in over your head when thoughtful discourse requires intelligence, knowledge and a rudimentary understanding of history. Your automatic default to emotion, a stunted maturity with the personal vindictiveness of a spoiled chubby pimpled preteen child.

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    2. You can and do have a problem with me, however you frequently have a problem with Jews, Israel, Zionist and the Judaism

      :)

      Nice try Deuce. But even when I do not post here?

      You still are a prick to Jews, Israel, Zionism and Judaism.

      I am not the issue. Your anti-semitism is.

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    3. Love your sad attempt at insults again...

      Just shows the weakness of your argument.

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  9. Their latest claim follows a line they have made before and contains the false assumption that when I call bullshit on their bullshit regarding Gaza/Hamas it must mean that I support Gaza/Hamas .

    Occam's Razor on the other hand would say that the logical conclusion (in the absence of conflicting evidence that they continuously refuse to provide)is that I am simply constantly calling bullshit on their bullshit because they are constantly offering up bullshit here.


    Occam's Razor also must conclude that since you have a never ending hatred for Israel unparelleled by any other nation in the area or in the world you have a bias.

    :)

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  10. quirk:
    No one in their right mind would want to move from the US to Israel. The only ones who do it are the religious nutjobs.


    Once again proves you know NOTHING of Israel

    But at the rate of Jew hatred growing in the USA? Expect more USA Jews to move there.

    About 16 thousand American Jews a year move there.

    Once again you make slanderous statement to cover your hatred.

    " religious nut jobs. "

    Fuck you..

    Maybe you should visit there 1st before spouting your garbage?


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      And yet, you still sit and get older in Ohio.

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    2. But is VISIT Israel.

      Spend my wealth the way I choose...

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    3. Your wealth ?


      You really are kidding, aren't you.
      You were improvised, claimed the 'system' broken ...

      Yet now you claim to have more than disposable income, you claim to hold wealth.

      Comical, "O"rdure, comical

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  11. Quirk, to educate your Israel hating ass....

    Companies All Want A Piece Of The Israeli Pie
    By Einat Paz-Frankel, NoCamels September 30, 2015 5 Comments
    They all want a piece of the Israeli pie: Microsoft, Google, Apple – dozens of large, multinational companies have chosen to establish offices and R&D centers in the Startup Nation. Why did they all pick Israel and what exactly are they doing here?

    It’s a little known fact that two thirds of all R&D employees in Israel are employed by foreign companies such as HP and Microsoft, according Israel’s Central Bureau of Statistics. Currently, there are 250 R&D centers of foreign high-tech companies in Israel,

    Many people move to israel that are not "religious nut jobs"

    You are a moron.

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    1. Quirk is there any subject you do not have an opinion of?

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      And yet, you still sit and get older in Ohio.

      Move EAST, young man.

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    3. You have a FREE ticket to Gaza waiting for you, usual conditions apply.

      Yet, you sit and get older in Michigan.

      In fact, about the only thing anyone can identify you as occasionally actually doing is walking you mutt a half block to the corner fire hydrant, and letting him piss on public property.

      MOVE, you old fart, just MOVE once in a while.....I fear for you health, particularly since you claim to have gotten off the sauce.

      That at least got you out of the house once in a while, if only to the liquor store.

      As always, striving to look out for your best interests.....

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    4. Your free offer of a ticket to Gaza is complete Bullshit as we all know back when you offered it to me. Bob, you are a fool. Disingenuous as well.

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  12. Merkel needs to resign

    The attack happened in the south western city of Reutlingen near Stuttgart where one woman was killed and two others injured before the man wielding the machete was arrested by the police. Officers said that the man was a 21-year-old Syrian refugee ho it appeared had randomly targeted passers-by. They added it looked as though the perpetrator was acting alone and that he had no accomplices. The attack comes as Germany is on edge, following a rampage at a Munich mall on Friday night in which nine people were killed, and an axe attack on a train a week ago that left five wounded.

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    1. She needs to be run out of Germany on a rail....I swear by Odin, the fucking Germans never seem able to get anything right....

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    2. Speaking of the krauts, my Niece once said to me:

      "They only care about themselves"

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    3. It remains to be seen whether the USA still retains enough brain power and good sense to avoid Frau Merkel's mistakes.

      There is some reason to hope with The Donald on the scene.

      In this regard, think of Hillary as our Frau Merkel.

      Hillary is pledged to INCREASE the number of moslem 'refugees' flooding in here by 550%.

      Only someone as totally dimmed down as Rufus could possibly vote for this.

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    4. Merkel does what ever Soros tells her to do. HRC will do the same.

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    5. Exchanging Lester Crown for George Soros will be a step in the "Right" direction.

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  13. German companies warning of a looming shortage of skilled workers, supposedly already costing the economy $27 billion a year, successfully lobbied the government to triple annual immigration from 2013 through 2015.

    Despite only 737,630 births and 925,239 deaths, Germany’s population grew in 2015 by importing 1.1 million refugees. As a result of government policies, Germany’s immigrant population has reached about 17.5 million, and immigrants now account for 22 percent of the nation’s total population.

    Germany’s Federal Service for Migration and Refugees recently reported that for 2015, about three-quarters of refugees who entered Germany were males, two-thirds were younger than 33-years old, few had any working experience, and most came from across war-torn parts of the Middle East and Africa.

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  14. I see Quirk is still on insisting on calling murderous jihadi terrorists as 'crazies'.

    This is no mere slip of the tongue, no lapsus révélateur, on his part, but a piece of his duplicitous attempt to humanize them, to make them 'just like any other killers'.

    Missing is the designation 'moslem', 'moslem terrorists', which is proper for those who kill while shouting the Akbar. Their aggression comes directly from the Koran and the rest of their shit literature.

    This is what Quirk is trying to deny, trying to cover up, through his dissimulations.

    These days he is so confused that he can't see the significance of someone saying, basically directly to his face, in another revealing slip of the tongue:

    "First we'll show the Poles, then everybody else'.

    It's no wonder I worry constantly about the man.

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  15. I think it's an absolute gas that Debbie W-S finally got hers.

    She's out on her ass, persona non grata at the Democrat National Convention.

    The left is beginning to eat its own.

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    1. Sanders to Wasserman Schultz: Get out

      Jul 24, 2016 12:31 PM by Ed Morrissey

      “It is an outrage, and it’s sad …”


      Heh heh heh

      Isn't it delicious ?

      "Get out", says the Socialist, who ran in the Democrat primaries for his own convenience...


      heh Heh HEH !

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    2. http://hotair.com/archives/2016/07/24/sanders-to-wasserman-schultz-get-out/

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  16. .

    I see Quirk is still on insisting on calling murderous jihadi terrorists as 'crazies'.

    It amazes me that you have the guts to put this up today. Especially, after you made such a fool of yourself running around yelling Allahu Akbar for a full day about that German right-wing nut. And then posting that Robert Spencer article when I said all we know about the guy was that he was some kind of nut.

    Now, you are back doing the same thing when the post WiO put up said there was no evidence of terrorism.

    How many 'possible' QNits have you put up here only to be followed by 'eh, well, never mind'.

    I had to laugh the other day when you cautioned Rufus to 'not jump to conclusions'.

    The same as with your and WiO's suggestions that I move to Gaza.

    You're like a couple of 5 year olds. A couple of very, very stupid 5 year olds.

    .

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    2. Yeah, nut jobs that are moslem.

      day after day..

      no evidence here.

      that Iranian dude in germany not a terrorist.

      But folks who move from America to Israel are all "religious nut jobs"

      Once again quick?

      A hardy FUCK YOU

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    3. Media Shielding Islam From Connection To Terrorism

      http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2016/07/media_shielding_islam_from_connection_to_terror.html

      "NOTE THE EMPHASIS ON ((((MENTAL ILLNESS)))) AND THE OMMISION OF ANY REFERENCE TO ((((ISLAM))))...."

      This is Quirk's basic operating tactic, filched in its entirety from the MSM.

      It's been a basic tactic used by O'bozo as well.

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      American Tninker?


      You prove my point.


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  17. Family including a child burned alive for trying to flee ISIS held territory

    (IraqiNews.com) KIRKUK – A security source in Kirkuk province announced on Sunday that the ISIS executed three from the same family, including a little girl, while they were trying to escape from the southwest areas of the province.

    Sharing details the source said, “This evening, ISIS burned a family of three (father, mother and a two-year-old girl) while they were trying to escape from the organization’s grip in Rashad village (35 km southwest of Kirkuk),” adding “The family was walking through Hamrin mountains to al-Alam village in Salahaddin province.”

    The source, who asked anonymity, added, “ISIS has deployed members to arrest families that run away from ISIS sites southwest of Kirkuk.”

    Iraqinews

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    1. Strikes in Syria

      Bomber, attack, fighter and remotely piloted aircraft conducted nine strikes in Syria:

      -- Near Ar Raqqah, a strike struck an ISIL improvised explosive device factory.

      -- Near Manbij, eight strikes struck seven separate ISIL tactical units and destroyed nine ISIL fighting positions and an ISIL command and control node.

      Strikes in Iraq

      Fighter aircraft conducted four strikes in Iraq, coordinated with and in support of the Iraqi government:

      -- Near Habbaniyah, a strike struck an ISIL tactical unit and destroyed an ISIL fighting position.

      -- Near Qayyarah, a strike struck an ISIL tactical unit and destroyed two ISIL mortar systems, 12 ISIL rockets, 19 ISIL rocket rails, seven ISIL oil tankers, and an ISIL assembly area and denied ISIL access to terrain.

      -- Near Ramadi, a strike struck an ISIL tactical unit and destroyed an ISIL fighting position, an ISIL vehicle, and an ISIL weapons cache.

      -- Near Sultan Abdallah, a strike destroyed an ISIL weapons storage facility.

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    that Iranian dude in germany not a terrorist.

    Haven't you heard WiO, the dude was German. Born and bred there. You prove my point.

    .

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    1. BREAKING: Syrian Refugee in Germany Kills One, Injures Two More in Machete Attack

      Less than a week after a man who had claimed refugee status as a 17-year-old Afghan attacked train riders with an axe in Wurzburg, Germany, and after an attack by a German-Iranian teen in Munich on Friday that killed nine, now come reports that a Syrian refugee wielding a machete has killed a pregnant woman and wounded two others in Reutlingen, Germany.

      Reuters reports:

      A 21-year-old Syrian refugee killed a woman with a machete and injured two other people on Sunday before being arrested in the southern German city of Reutlingen, a police spokesman said.

      https://pjmedia.com/homeland-security/2016/07/24/breaking-syrian-refugee-in-germany-kills-one-injures-two-more-in-machete-attack/

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  19. Classic New York Times:

    The Coup Leader Must Be Held Accountable

    By IBRAHIM KALIN
    The United States should send Fethullah Gulen back to Turkey to face justice.

    Today, the people of Turkey are more united than at any time in recent history. In any democracy, citizens are bound to disagree. But our nation’s response to the July 15 assault proved that democracy, freedom and the rule of law are nonnegotiable in Turkey. As the Turkish people mourn the dead, nurture the wounded and take pride in what we accomplished together, they also demand justice, closure and reassurances that never again shall we witness such a crisis.

    Ibrahim Kalin is the spokesman for President Recep Tayyip Erdogan of Turkey.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/25/opinion/the-turkey-coup-leader-must-be-held-accountable.html

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  20. Quirk:

    Please provide a link to the "German Right Wing Nutjob"

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    1. .

      http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/07/23/munich-shooting-german-iranian-gunman-targeted-children-outside/


      I guess you might consider The Telegraph from the UK a part of the MSM but at least its conservative.

      On the other hand, since your sources usually consist of Adam Corolla, blog posts from people no one has ever heard of before, and other sources like frontpagemag, I can see where you might still be a little skeptical.

      .

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  21. When she was still secretary of state, I asked Clinton about another presidential campaign and she waved the idea aside. Her future plans, she said, involved sleeping and exercising and traveling for fun. “It sounds so ordinary, but I haven’t done it for 20 years. I would like to see whether I can get untired,” she said.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/24/opinion/campaign-stops/behind-hillarys-mask.html

    In her mind, she'll get around to that exercise thing in 8 more years.

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  22. Quirk: QuirkSun Jul 24, 05:04:00 PM EDT
    .

    that Iranian dude in germany not a terrorist.

    Haven't you heard WiO, the dude was German. Born and bred there. You prove my point.

    .

    The Iranian dude was born there.

    His father and mother are iranians.

    If you lived in Germany you'd understand, that JUST because you are born there DOESNT make you a real german.

    Quirk, give it up, you are putting American Ideals on nations and peoples you just don't KNOW shit about.

    This Iranian dude, Named Ali David (the Guardian SCRUBBED the ALI part of his name of course) was a bloodline Iranian.

    He could have died there of old age and still might have been a german citizen, but he was NOT a German.

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  23. Notice how Quirk again cuts and paste my words OUT OF CONTEXT?


    What is "Occupation"Sun Jul 24, 04:35:00 PM EDT
    Yeah, nut jobs that are moslem.

    day after day..

    no evidence here.

    that Iranian dude in germany not a terrorist.

    But folks who move from America to Israel are all "religious nut jobs"

    Once again quick?

    A hardy FUCK YOU



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    1. So according to Quirk's standards, moslem's who murder in Europe are NOT terrorists but any American that migrates to Israel is a "religious nut job"

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  24. BBC Scrubs ‘Ali’ From Munich Killer’s Name On TV, In Articles, AND On Social Media

    http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/07/23/bbc-scrubs-muslim-name-ali-munich-killer-article/

    The BBC has unilaterally chosen not to report the Munich attacker’s full name, in what appears to be an attempt to scrub any Muslim or Islamic heritage link to its coverage of the incident.
    Most sources at this point suggest that Ali David Sonboly – the Munich attacker who targeted children and killed nine yesterday – is not connected to radical Islam, but the BBC has gone to extraordinary lengths to try to keep any reference to his heritage out of its coverage, opting to name him only as “David Sonboly”.

    Other news organisations including the Wall Street Journal, Independent, Daily Mail, and Sky News named the attacker as “Ali David Sonboly” or “David Ali Sonboly”. CNN even referred to him simply as “Ali Sonly”.

    now this

    They initially introduced his name as a western name “David S”. Then his name changed to Ali David Sonboly (which sounds western) when his real name is Ali Daud Sonboly/Sunbuli which is an Arabic name (better pronounced Sunbuli) and has an exclusively Arabic meaning: ‘from the wheat kernel’.

    Sonboly is no Iranian. He is Syrian. His Facebook page showed that he is pro Turkey’s Islamists. That, plus he had a record with the Interpol and was being watched. He is also not a teenager as they show us, but an adult as videos showed. What the reader should conclude after reading is this: why is the eye witnesses account (which is substantiated by material evidence) contradicts media reports (which provide zero evidence that we can verify, just government claim). Let me shred the media’s narrative piece by piece.

    First of all. There is only one way to spell Sonboly in the Arabic: سنبلي. In the English it can be spelled multiple ways like Sunbulli, Sonboly because Arabic vowels need to be added using English letters. This is why we find Muhammad spelled as Mohemmed or Mehemet or Mohammad …

    But in Arabic, it is always the same spelling: سنبلي

    Unless one knows Arabic, they do not know where to look. Examining clan Sonboly and even Sonboly’s own Facebook (archived here) we find no persian flags hovering anywhere. What we find are Turkish or Syrian flags or the combination of the two, just like the shooter’s Facebook shows. These are Syrian Islamists who are pro Turkey’s Erdogan. We also find Arabic and not a lick of Persian as their main language. This is unlikely a ‘Sonboly’ of the Persian variety.

    the fact is simple...

    Moslem Mass Killing.

    spin it anyway you want....

    Another Moslem Mass Killing.

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    1. Now I know there will be some that will make up excuses, tell me I am full of it, another work place act of violence, mentality ill person, no direct connections to ISIS...

      So what?

      If it walks like a duck? Quacks like a duck? Sounds like a duck? Looks like a duck? Smells like a duck?

      It's a duck.

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    2. As has been said of the fascist, apartheid State the Zionists have, in Palestine.

      IDF general in bombshell speech: Israel today shows signs of 1930s Germany

      http://www.jpost.com/Israel-News/Politics-And-Diplomacy/IDF-general-in-bombshell-speech-Israel-today-shows-signs-of-1930s-Germany-453142

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    3. Ehud Barak accuses the Netanyahu government of establishing apartheid

      http://www.voltairenet.org/article192401.html

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  25. Notice quirk's usage of Rules for Radicals here?


    QuirkSun Jul 24, 07:24:00 PM EDT
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/07/23/munich-shooting-german-iranian-gunman-targeted-children-outside/
    I guess you might consider The Telegraph from the UK a part of the MSM but at least its conservative.
    On the other hand, since your sources usually consist of Adam Corolla, blog posts from people no one has ever heard of before, and other sources like frontpagemag, I can see where you might still be a little skeptical.


    Destroy the credibility of the other side of the argument. Dont deal in facts.

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    1. * RULE 5: “Ridicule is man’s most potent weapon.” There is no defense. It’s irrational. It’s infuriating. It also works as a key pressure point to force the enemy into concessions. (Pretty crude, rude and mean, huh? They want to create anger and fear.)

      * RULE 12: Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it.” Cut off the support network and isolate the target from sympathy. Go after people and not institutions; people hurt faster than institutions. (This is cruel, but very effective. Direct, personalized criticism and ridicule works.)

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    2. .

      Where didn't I deal in facts? Doug's and Bob have been complaining about the MSM for the last couple days.

      Actually, all Doug would have had to do was run a simple google search on 'Munich gunman' like I did. I went through the first 3 pages of links and found links to the UK, US, Russia, and Germany. Yesterday, I saw other stores by the same sites as well as Israel. I saw them from the major national and cable news stations. Surprisingly, there weren't any from Doug's favorite sites.

      .

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  26. Saul Alinsky’s 12 Rules for Radicals

    Here is the complete list from Alinsky.

    * RULE 1: “Power is not only what you have, but what the enemy thinks you have.” Power is derived from 2 main sources – money and people. “Have-Nots” must build power from flesh and blood. (These are two things of which there is a plentiful supply. Government and corporations always have a difficult time appealing to people, and usually do so almost exclusively with economic arguments.)
    * RULE 2: “Never go outside the expertise of your people.” It results in confusion, fear and retreat. Feeling secure adds to the backbone of anyone. (Organizations under attack wonder why radicals don’t address the “real” issues. This is why. They avoid things with which they have no knowledge.)
    * RULE 3: “Whenever possible, go outside the expertise of the enemy.” Look for ways to increase insecurity, anxiety and uncertainty. (This happens all the time. Watch how many organizations under attack are blind-sided by seemingly irrelevant arguments that they are then forced to address.)
    * RULE 4: “Make the enemy live up to its own book of rules.” If the rule is that every letter gets a reply, send 30,000 letters. You can kill them with this because no one can possibly obey all of their own rules. (This is a serious rule. The besieged entity’s very credibility and reputation is at stake, because if activists catch it lying or not living up to its commitments, they can continue to chip away at the damage.)
    * RULE 5: “Ridicule is man’s most potent weapon.” There is no defense. It’s irrational. It’s infuriating. It also works as a key pressure point to force the enemy into concessions. (Pretty crude, rude and mean, huh? They want to create anger and fear.)
    * RULE 6: “A good tactic is one your people enjoy.” They’ll keep doing it without urging and come back to do more. They’re doing their thing, and will even suggest better ones. (Radical activists, in this sense, are no different that any other human being. We all avoid “un-fun” activities, and but we revel at and enjoy the ones that work and bring results.)

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    1. * RULE 7: “A tactic that drags on too long becomes a drag.” Don’t become old news. (Even radical activists get bored. So to keep them excited and involved, organizers are constantly coming up with new tactics.)
      * RULE 8: “Keep the pressure on. Never let up.” Keep trying new things to keep the opposition off balance. As the opposition masters one approach, hit them from the flank with something new. (Attack, attack, attack from all sides, never giving the reeling organization a chance to rest, regroup, recover and re-strategize.)
      * RULE 9: “The threat is usually more terrifying than the thing itself.” Imagination and ego can dream up many more consequences than any activist. (Perception is reality. Large organizations always prepare a worst-case scenario, something that may be furthest from the activists’ minds. The upshot is that the organization will expend enormous time and energy, creating in its own collective mind the direst of conclusions. The possibilities can easily poison the mind and result in demoralization.)
      * RULE 10: “If you push a negative hard enough, it will push through and become a positive.” Violence from the other side can win the public to your side because the public sympathizes with the underdog. (Unions used this tactic. Peaceful [albeit loud] demonstrations during the heyday of unions in the early to mid-20th Century incurred management’s wrath, often in the form of violence that eventually brought public sympathy to their side.)
      * RULE 11: “The price of a successful attack is a constructive alternative.” Never let the enemy score points because you’re caught without a solution to the problem. (Old saw: If you’re not part of the solution, you’re part of the problem. Activist organizations have an agenda, and their strategy is to hold a place at the table, to be given a forum to wield their power. So, they have to have a compromise solution.)
      * RULE 12: Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it.” Cut off the support network and isolate the target from sympathy. Go after people and not institutions; people hurt faster than institutions. (This is cruel, but very effective. Direct, personalized criticism and ridicule works.)

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      :o)

      Good lord, WiO. Look in a mirror.

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  27. Dhaka massacre a culmination of mounting Islamic violence
    Observers say Bangladesh has ignored warnings of growing jihadism

    http://www.irishtimes.com/news/world/asia-pacific/dhaka-massacre-a-culmination-of-mounting-islamic-violence-1.2709153

    Over the past two years, Bangladesh has been shaken by more than 30 brutal murders of individuals deemed enemies of extremist Islam: atheist bloggers, gay activists, Hindu priests. All were killed by machete-wielding attackers.
    Yet as the attacks grew more frequent and carnage mounted, prime minister Sheikh Hasina Wajed dismissed warnings of international Islamist terror groups operating in Bangladesh. Instead, she accusing her long-standing political rivals of trying to destabilise the country.
    Now, the sophisticated weekend attack on an upmarket Dhaka restaurant, in which 20 hostages, including 18 foreigners, were killed, leaves little doubt that Bangladesh’s young Islamist radicals are plugged into global jihadi networks.
    Islamic State, through its news agency Amaq, claimed responsibility for the Dhaka attack soon after it began.

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  28. http://www.firstpost.com/world/germany-violence-axe-attacker-goaded-by-islamic-state-propaganda-2905116.html

    Germany violence: Axe attacker 'goaded' by Islamic State propaganda

    Berlin: A teenager who carried out a knife-and-axe attack on a German commuter train was a lone wolf who was "goaded" by Islamic State propaganda, Interior Minister Thomas de Maiziere said Wednesday amid confusion about the attacker's identity and motive.
    Germany axe attackRepresentational Image. AP
    A video circulated by Islamic State supporters on Tuesday shows the 17-year-old refugee waving a knife and vowing to commit an attack in Germany, but there is no evidence that he received direct instructions from the extremist group, de Maiziere said.
    The Interior Ministry has confirmed the authenticity of the video and says multiple witnesses have confirmed the footage was filmed in Germany.
    "It is perhaps a case that occupies a grey area between a crazed rampage and a terrorist act," de Maiziere said at a press conference held two days after the teen injured five people by attacking them with a knife and an axe on a commuter train headed for Wuerzburg in southern Germany.
    German media reported Wednesday that the perpetrator, registered in Bavaria as an Afghan asylum seeker, was in fact from Pakistan and may have faked his identity in order to improve his chances of gaining a residence permit.
    Documents found in the adolescent's room showed that he had Pakistani citizenship, German public broadcaster ZDF reported citing security sources.
    A hand-painted Islamic State flag and Pashto-language writings - including a goodbye note to his father and a text calling on Muslims to arm themselves - were also found in his room with a German foster family. Pashto is spoken in both Afghanistan and Pakistan.

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  29. I've been googling trying to find out what a hardy fuck you is. I get nothing. Smiley face smiley face smiley face.

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  30. .

    .

    So according to Quirk's standards, moslem's who murder in Europe are NOT terrorists

    Nonsense.

    If they are Muslim and they murder people for political purposes they are terrorists whether they are nutz or not. The two designations are not mutually exclusive.

    On the other hand, just because the guy is a Muslim doesn't mean that he is also an Islamic jihadi as you would and your bros would have us believe. The two designations, Muslim and Islamic jihadi, are not mutually inclusive.

    In this case, the guy may be a nut and a terrorist (though from what I have read his grievances seem to be more personal than political) but if so he is a right-wing nut and terrorist not an Islamist terrorist.

    That you are unable to see the difference is one of the reasons we argue all the time.

    .

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    1. "but if so he is a right-wing nut and terrorist not an Islamist terrorist."

      No, you simply have your head up your ass.

      Again.

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  31. Munich shooting: Attacker researched rampage killings, police say

    (CNN)The teenager who shot dead nine people in Munich on Friday was a mentally troubled man who had extensively researched rampage killings and had no apparent links to ISIS, German police said.

    Authorities said the 18-year-old lone attacker -- who died of a self-inflicted gunshot wound -- had no political motivations.
    No references to religion were found in documents in his home in the southern German city.
    But investigators searching his belongings found numerous documents on rampage killings, including a book entitled "Rampage in My Mind -- Why Students Kill," said Robert Heimberger, president of the Bavarian state criminal police office.

    Neighbors told CNN that the teen who lived in the apartment searched by police was Ali Sonboly. German police said the gunman's parents had been taken in for questioning.

    Police have not named the attacker, but said he had dual German and Iranian nationality, and was born and raised in Munich.

    Police said there was also likely to be significance in the timing of the attack, five years to the day since Anders Behring Breivik killed 77 people in Norway in 2011, many of them attendees at a youth camp.
    Both attacks targeted young people, with most of the victims in Munich in their teens, Police Chief Hubertus Andrae said.

    http://www.cnn.com/2016/07/23/europe/germany-munich-shooting/

    You should get a job with the MSM, Quirk:

    You innocently pick a "Conservative" source that just happens to repeat RIGHT WING (Breivik) and "RIGHT WING" more than half a dozen times.

    My liberal source, CNN, reports as though he was obsessed with killing youngsters, not with Breivik's politics, but that doesn't fit your weird-ass narrative.

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    1. I think CNN was the third link of "not my sites" but the first one I clicked on.

      Now it's the FIRST link.

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    2. Afghan, 16, arrested in connection with Munich shootings

      Teenager detained for possible failure to report gunman Ali Sonboly’s plans, which had been underway for more than a year, according to German investigators

      https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/jul/24/munich-gunman-ali-sonboly-planned-attack-for-more-than-a-year-say-investigators

      No doubt ANOTHER FAR RIGHT WING AFGHAN!

      "FACTS" are FACTS in QuirkWorld tm

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    3. Police said Saturday the attacker was a mentally troubled individual who extensively researched rampage killings, and had no apparent links to terror groups and no political motive.

      http://www.cnn.com/2016/07/24/europe/germany-munich-shooting/

      (The new, Number One link on Google)

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    4. ... a mentally troubled man who had extensively researched rampage killings and had no apparent links to ISIS ...


      There is the salient FACT as it pertains to the conversation you all have not been having.
      Quirk wins on facts, the Dimwitted Duo +1 continue to scurry about.

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    5. "On Sunday, investigators revealed he left behind a long written statement on his computer, which was still being analyzed. They said they found photographs on his camera showing he visited the German town of Winnenden, the site of a deadly 2009 school shooting."
      ===
      I'll bet he pledged allegiance to Hitler and Trump, but they're not telling.

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    6. Sure Rat: Because he was not linked to ISIS he was RIGHT WING.

      Jeeze

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    7. I don't think I mentioned ISIS one time.

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    8. Ok, I see that Quirk says he's either an Islamic Terrorist or a RIGHT WING TERRORIST.

      ...I guess that covers the field.

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    9. Jack HawkinsSun Jul 24, 09:01:00 PM EDT

      ... a mentally troubled man who had extensively researched rampage killings and had no apparent links to ISIS ...

      There is the salient FACT as it pertains to the conversation you all have not been having.
      Quirk wins on facts, the Dimwitted Duo +1 continue to scurry about.


      The fact is he was a moslem. he was pissed off at the society around him.

      He had an illegal block with 300 rounds and shot at the population's kids.

      You can theorize all you wish.


      fact is simple.

      He was a moslem mass murderer.

      No spin needed.

      No more fact needed.

      No misinformation or distortion needed.

      Moslem, CHECK

      Illegal Weapon, CHECK

      Murdered women and kids, CHECK

      All the rest, is as they say, is commentary.

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    10. Wrong, Doug.

      Thee conversation that I read was about the terrorist NOT BEING an Islamoid.

      You may have been claiming that was MSM spin, but it is the FACT that you presented that makes Q's position the correct one.

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    11. I NEVER said he was an Islamoid, they did.

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    12. ... a mentally troubled man who had extensively researched rampage killings and had no apparent links to ISIS ...


      The salient point, all else is hyperbole and bullshit, "O"rdure.

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    13. Bob and WiO may have, not me.

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    14. Which puts you in the +1 category, Doug, not a card carrying member of the Dimwitted Duo...

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    15. Members of the Dimwitted Duo tell us that "Fact Checking" is not required, of them ...

      They operate on the basis of their 'feelings', facts need not interfere.
      It is why "O"rdure continues to be a National Zionist, he is undeterred by the facts on the ground, as reported by prominent Israelis, they need not be checked.

      “It is time to honestly admit that Israeli society is ill – and it is our duty to treat this disease,”
      - Reuven Rivlin, President of Israel



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    16. Jack "I don't pay child support or give a shit able the daughter I helped create" Hawkins misinforms and distorts as usual.

      FACT MOSLEM SHOOTER
      FACT MURDERED WOMEN AND KIDS
      FACT USED ILLEGAL WEAPON

      THOSE are the FACTS Jack.

      now you of course, must bring in slander about Israel. Off topic and quite Sal Alensky Rules for Radicals of you.

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    17. BTW it is also a fact that Jack "I wet my bed til I was 45" Hawkins squats on Native (1st Americans) lands in AZ...

      Now whose the occupier?

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    18. .

      You innocently pick a "Conservative" source that just happens to repeat RIGHT WING (Breivik) and "RIGHT WING" more than half a dozen times.

      My liberal source, CNN, reports as though he was obsessed with killing youngsters, not with Breivik's politics, but that doesn't fit your weird-ass narrative.


      Doug, you ignorant slut. Point out in my weird ass narrative where I said anything different than what CNN reported. If you bothered to read through the source I gave you, you would have seen the same facts, though certainly not slanted the way you offer it up.


      Authorities said the 18-year-old lone attacker -- who died of a self-inflicted gunshot wound -- had no political motivations. No references to religion were found in documents in his home in the southern German city.

      But investigators searching his belongings found numerous documents on rampage killings, including a book entitled "Rampage in My Mind -- Why Students Kill," said Robert Heimberger, president of the Bavarian state criminal police office.



      Police said had no political motivations.

      Definition (Merriam Webster)

      Terrorism:

      noun ter·ror·ism \ˈter-ər-ˌi-zəm\

      Simple Definition of terrorism

      : the use of violent acts to frighten the people in an area as a way of trying to achieve a political goal


      This is the reason why I questioned whether we should be calling the guy a terrorist rather than a mass murdering nut job.

      No references to religion were found in documents in his home in the southern German city.

      If the guy was motivated by religion there is no evidence of it; yet, you guys were ready to call him an Islamist jihadi before you even knew the facts.

      But investigators searching his belongings found numerous documents on rampage killings, including a book entitled "Rampage in My Mind -- Why Students Kill," said Robert Heimberger, president of the Bavarian state criminal police office.

      I say that tells me the guy is a nut job. Yet, you guys get on me for not calling the guy and Islamist jihadi nutjob.

      My opinion. This guy isn't rather wasn't the only nutjob walking around.

      Police said there was also likely to be significance in the timing of the attack, five years to the day since Anders Behring Breivik killed 77 people in Norway in 2011, many of them attendees at a youth camp. Both attacks targeted young people, with most of the victims in Munich in their teens, Police Chief Hubertus Andrae said.

      You complain because I call the guy a right wing nut job. Do you have any idea who Anders Breivik was? What he represented? What he did?

      You guys whine because every legitimate news organization from the US to Russia, from the UK to Israel are reporting the same facts, the facts they are getting from the German authorities but oddly they don't match up with the facts you guys want to hear so you are upset, you stamp your little fee, and say how unfair it is.

      It's a waste of time talking to you morons.

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  32. Translated by Valor for Borderland Beat

    Federal police forces belonging to the Federal Forces Division were attacked Wednesday by an armed convoy in the municipality of Río Bravo, resulting in a bloody battle that left seven armed men dead.

    This new wave of violence raised the death toll to 33 during the last three weeks in Ciudad Victoria, Río Bravo and Valle Hermoso, accounting for shootouts against troops and executions arising from the drug war that drug gangs carry out.

    The epicenter of the fighting occurred Wednesday at approximately 16:00 hours in the public land Raúl Muñiz (Plan del Alazán), south of the town of Santa Apolonia, when federal police were carrying out ground reconnaissance and detected four vehicles manned by armed civilians, signaling them to stop.

    The Tamaulipas Coordination Group (GCT) confirmed that crew members of three vehicles managed to escape, while the ones from the fourth vehicle began to attack the federal police, “who in defense of their lives, repelled the attack and shot dead seven of the suspects who until now, remain unidentified.”

    The federal police reported no casualties or injuries on their side. There weren’t any arrests from the criminal group.

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  33. Pewy.

    Glad I fell asleep....

    ratdecay made his entrance and that decaying stench of death immediately wafted back into the Bar and happily I missed it this time....

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  34. Maybe I will watch the Democrat National Convention after all....it is getting humorous.....

    DEMS EMAIL DISASTER
    ALL THE DIRTY DETAILS!
    CLINTON CORONATION IN DISARRAY....DRUDGE


    and

    NIGHTMARE BEFORE CONVENTION: WASSERMAN SPIRALS...
    CNN BENCHES BRAZILE...
    PHOTOS: DNC erects 4-mile fence around Philly site...DRUDGE


    heh heh

    Also, another possible terrorist attack is being reported in Germany....back pack blows up at song fest.....10 reported injured so far.....

    Could be radical environmentalists from Die Grunen, though.

    (but I bet not)

    Awaiting details....

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  35. One Killed, 10 Injured in Explosion in German City of Ansbach

    https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=explosion%20in%20ansbach

    Google search, so Quirk can pick and choose.

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  36. ANSBACH !

    THAT is where my cousin was located.

    He smoked hash, and guarded our tactical nuclear weapons.....

    Did a great job of it, too.

    Very conscientious about smoking hash, and guarding tactical nuclear weapons.

    Here's Drudge:

    Suicide Bombing At German Wine Bar...

    4th recent violent attack....DURDGE


    Mormons or muzzies ?

    Both have prohibitions against boozing....

    I'm betting muzzies though....

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    1. DRUDGE, not DURDGE, or even DIRGE....

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  37. A man killed in an explosion near a music festival in southern Germany was the likely attacker, a police spokeswoman says.

    ...

    Ansbach is home to a US Army base and the 12th Combat Aviation Brigade. A spokesman at the base said the base had no information about the explosion.

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  38. Latest -

    Bavaria's top security official says Ansbach attacker blew himself up after being turned away from music festivl

    Obama Offers Help to Germany, Thanks US Police


    AP
    Raw: Video Shows Victims Outside Munich Mall
    AP

    ANSBACH, Germany (AP) -- Bavaria's top security official says Ansbach attacker blew himself up after being turned away from music festival .

    http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/E/EU_APNEWSALERT?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2016-07-24-21-41-36

    Obvious case of music place violence.

    Some of the usual suspects here might even claim it was justified based on the obvious discrimination involved in turning a suspicious looking muzzie Syrian immigrant away who was 'back packing'....

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    1. And here's another -

      Syrian refugee kills pregnant woman in Germany machete attack....DRUDGE

      Obvioius case of 'term' limit violence, nothing more....move along, now....

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    2. One of them RIGHT WING DANCING TERRORIST WANNABEs.

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    3. Cannoneer No. 4 •

      Munich, Reutlingen, now Ansbach (3 miles from Katterbach Army Air Field).

      They had a rodeo at Katterbach July 4, 1984 and the high temperature for the day was 45 degrees F. Bayreuth Wagnerfest next?

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    4. You know, really, finally one must conclude that poor Quirk is cracked wide open right across his aging brow....

      Cheers !

      later

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    5. .

      :o)

      Shit for Brains and Pineapple Boy, they make asses of themselves on the Munich gunman so they try to change the subject.

      Let's see which of WiO's Rules for Radicals is this?

      I'll have to go back and check.

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    6. .

      Oh yea, here we go.

      RULE 2: “Never go outside the expertise of your people.”

      Well, that one’s pretty obvious. Of course, when it comes to the Bobbsey Twins here it’s setting an extremely low bar.

      Unfortunately, they seem to have also missed this one…

      * RULE 7: “A tactic that drags on too long becomes a drag.” Don’t become old news.

      This is their fallback tactic whenever they lose an argument so by necessity it became old news long ago.

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  39. THE AFTERMATH of the recently failed coup in Turkey has significant geopolitical ramifications.

    ...

    Among the many clues as to American involvement are the following:

    * The coup fighters were refueled from an American air tanker that took off from the NATO base at Incirlik.

    * The coup’s navy vessels immediately stopped the transit of Russian ships through the Bosporus Strait.

    * The initial American reaction to the coup attempt was markedly late and when it did come, its support for Erdoğan was lukewarm at best.

    ...

    We can expect to see further attempts at destabilisation including – but not limited to – further coup attempts.

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    1. Firefighters battle massive blaze near NATO base in Turkey after 'sabotage attempt'

      http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/692791/Firefighters-battle-massive-blaze-near-Turkey-NATO-base-after-sabotage-attempt

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      Wow, indeed since someone here was just the other day arguing that Obama was going out of his way to provide support to Erdogan in fighting the coup.

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    3. Yeah, I don't know whether to believe Sam's source, but check this out:

      SAS troops poised to EVACUATE Britons from Turkey amid fear of SECOND military coup

      THE SAS is poised to swoop into Turkey and rescue thousands of British holidaymakers and expats if the country suffers another military coup.

      With fears rebels could be about to try to overthrow the government for a second time, which is likely to result in a Turkish civil war, troops have moved into neighbouring Cyprus and are preparing a rescue mission to save stranded Britons.

      Defence chiefs have drawn up emergency plans and fully armed soldiers, together with members of the Special Forces Support Group, are ready to fly into areas popular with tourists and help families get home safely.

      Hundreds of jets, helicopters and other aircraft will be drafted in to help the estimated 50,000 Brits flee the danger

      http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/692730/SAS-troops-poised-to-EVACUATE-Britons-from-Turkey-amid-fear-of-SECOND-military-coup

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    4. Update: The Fire was started just two hours after Turkish paper Yeni Safak identified US Army General and NATO International Security Assistance Force Commander John F. Campbell as the leader of the coup!

      http://macedoniaonline.eu/content/view/29864/53/

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  41. QuirkSun Jul 24, 10:35:00 PM EDT

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    From the Maui Haole:

    You innocently pick a "Conservative" source that just happens to repeat RIGHT WING (Breivik) and "RIGHT WING" more than half a dozen times.

    My liberal source, CNN, reports as though he was obsessed with killing youngsters, not with Breivik's politics, but that doesn't fit your weird-ass narrative.


    Doug, you ignorant slut. Point out in my weird ass narrative where I said anything different than what CNN reported. If you bothered to read through the source I gave you, you would have seen the same facts, though certainly not slanted the way you want it offered it up.


    Authorities said the 18-year-old lone attacker -- who died of a self-inflicted gunshot wound -- had no political motivations. No references to religion were found in documents in his home in the southern German city.

    But investigators searching his belongings found numerous documents on rampage killings, including a book entitled "Rampage in My Mind -- Why Students Kill," said Robert Heimberger, president of the Bavarian state criminal police office.



    Police said had no political motivations.

    Definition (Merriam Webster)

    Terrorism:

    noun ter·ror·ism \ˈter-ər-ˌi-zəm\

    Simple Definition of terrorism

    : the use of violent acts to frighten the people in an area as a way of trying to achieve a political goal


    This is the reason I questioned whether we should be calling the guy a terrorist rather than a run of the mill mass murdering nut job.

    No references to religion were found in documents in his home in the southern German city.

    If the guy was motivated by religion there is no evidence of it; yet, you guys were ready to call him an Islamist jihadi before you even knew the facts. Old WiO says hey, the guy may have been born in Germany, he may have yelled out 'I am German' but doesn't matter, he is of Iranian heritage so he is Iranian, which evidently means we are free to call the guy an Islamist terrorist regardless of what motivated him. Perhaps, the most racist thing I have heard say yet.

    But investigators searching his belongings found numerous documents on rampage killings, including a book entitled "Rampage in My Mind -- Why Students Kill," said Robert Heimberger, president of the Bavarian state criminal police office.

    That tells me the guy is a nut job. Yet, you guys get on me for not calling the guy and Islamist jihadi nutjob.

    My opinion. This guy isn't rather wasn't the only nutjob walking around.

    Police said there was also likely to be significance in the timing of the attack, five years to the day since Anders Behring Breivik killed 77 people in Norway in 2011, many of them attendees at a youth camp. Both attacks targeted young people, with most of the victims in Munich in their teens, Police Chief Hubertus Andrae said.

    Dougo, you complain because I call the guy a right wing nut job. Do you have any idea who Anders Breivik was? What he represented? What he did?

    You guys whine because every legitimate news organization from the US to Russia, from the UK to Israel are reporting the same facts, the facts they are getting from the German authorities but oddly facts that don't match up with the facts you guys want to hear so you are upset, you stamp your little fee, and say how unfair it is.

    It's a waste of time talking to you morons.

    .

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    3. Do you see no difference in the narrative about the German shooter between an article that mentions RIGHT WING over half a dozen times and one that does not mention RIGHT WING once?

      I do, and give credit to CNN, not to your article with it's obligatory mentions of RIGHT WING.

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    4. I don't care what the UK newspaper says, it has no credibility

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  42. Malcolm Turnbull has rebuffed Labor’s calls to reveal what Australia knows about the FBI’s reported evidence that Malaysia Airlines captain Zaharie Ahmad Shah ­deliberately brought down Flight MH370.

    ...

    That the FBI had succeeded in recovering the flight simulator data, and concluded Zaharie had hijacked his own aircraft, was first revealed by Australian pilot Byron Bailey writing in The Weekend Australian in January, quoting an Australian government source.

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  43. Quirk:

    "Point out in my weird ass narrative where I said anything different than what CNN reported"


    OK:

    Quirk:

    "Especially, after you made such a fool of yourself running around yelling Allahu Akbar for a full day about that German right-wing nut.,


    ===

    "Do you have any idea who Anders Breivik was?"

    Yes: Not the guy you called a right wing nut, above

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  44. Quirk says: Old WiO says hey, the guy may have been born in Germany, he may have yelled out 'I am German' but doesn't matter, he is of Iranian heritage so he is Iranian, which evidently means we are free to call the guy an Islamist terrorist regardless of what motivated him. Perhaps, the most racist thing I have heard say yet.


    It's not racist. Islam is not a race. It's a political/religious theology that is based on a supremacist view.

    Your surreal attempts to change the reality is typical of the world view by Quirk.

    The iranian heritage (or syria) we don't know for sure, mass murdered civilians.

    FACT: He was not a native heritage German. He was either iranian or syrian. (To be determined)

    Quirk you can call it a he/she or whatever, but to those that are dead or wounded?

    He was a terrorist. He was Islamic. He used a gun to MURDER..

    Are you really this dense or are you suffering from a narcissistic personality that cannot concede anything you agree with?

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      WiO, you really are a race-baiting prick.


      Are you really this dense or are you suffering from a narcissistic personality that cannot concede anything you agree with?

      And maybe just a bit crazy. Perhaps, you know what this is supposed to mean but I sure don't.

      Cannot concede anything you agree with?

      You, son, are losing it.

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  45. Quirk seems to have to argue.

    He cannot accept that the islamic world is spinning out of control and savages that share that ideology are self radicalizing.

    He will pay the price someday when his normality bias finally cracks and he has his nervous breakdown.

    It will not be pretty.

    Til then? He will argue that an Iranian, born in Germany, could be an islamic barbarian.

    He will argue that in France 3rd generation Algerians are in face Frenchmen and cannot be motivated without a written permission slip from ISIS.

    He will say that the Israelis and the Palestinians are morally the same, bankrupt. And whatever the paletinians do is a normal reaction to Israeli SNUFF actives of innocent palestinians kids, who were executed by Israelis when the "children" were not actively attempting murder, regardless if those children had been throwing a firebomb seconds before. Quirk contends that the IDF cannot shoot a suspected terrorist unless they in the very moments of attempting to take a life....

    Quirk's standards for ID'ing a terrorist is so beyond anything the western world understands that it is in fact in a different dimension.

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    1. my bad,

      Til then? He will argue that an Iranian, born in Germany, could NOT be an islamic barbarian.

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      Til then? He will argue that an Iranian, born in Germany, could be an islamic barbarian.


      Please reference where I said that. Or, do what you usually do, pull shit out of your ass an when someone calls you on it you disappear.

      Either would be fine with me.

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      He will argue that in France 3rd generation Algerians are in face Frenchmen and cannot be motivated without a written permission slip from ISIS.


      Well, I assume this is just one of you usually brain farts designed merely for effect. I won't ask you to support it.

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      Quirk's standards for ID'ing a terrorist is so beyond anything the western world understands that it is in fact in a different dimension.


      You do realize that all those dictionaries you see that offer definitions of the word 'terrorist' are written by people living in the western world, right?

      Surprisingly, I have yet to see one of those dictionaries, or the State Department or any law enforcement agency define 'terrorist' as follows:

      Terrorist: any Iranian

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    5. Any Iranian in a western nation SHOOTING people.

      you fool

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    6. Quirk, let's get real.

      You are a walking excuse factory for terrorists.

      OWN IT

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      Any Iranian in a western nation SHOOTING people.

      Come on, WiO, you are not talking about a terrorist. You are talking about an Islamist terrorist. An Islamist jihadi, one driven by religious fervor. OWN IT.

      Never mind that the police say the attack wasn't politically motivated. Never mind that they say there seems to be no connection with ISIS or any other Islamic militant group. Never mind that they say the shooter had mental problems. Or that he was bullied and apparently seeking revenge on 'foreigners'. That he seems to have had a fascination with mass shootings. That he was influenced by right wing terrorist Anders Behring Breivik who in order to publicize his worldview which was virulently anti-Islam and anti-feminism decided to kill 77 people in Norway as was noted in Doug's favorite site CNN. Never mind that he used an image of Breivik as his profile picture on the social media network WhatsApp.

      No, in WiO-world none of that matters. It's all irrelevant, if he is of Iranian heritage he is ipso facto an Islamist terrorist.

      You are not logical WiO but you are consistent.

      We will continue to argue about this. I think you are nutz.

      What worries me is that with the rise of Trump and yahoos like Bob and you, your comment about the western world may have more to it than I would like to admit, not the classical Western culture and values but a retrograde and diminished western world.

      The thought it could be controlled by Trump and guys like you is scary.

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  46. Quirk uses a very odd type of special pleading to defend his muzzie pals.

    In Quirk World a muzzie must stand up and announce 'this is a terrorist attack', 'I do it for Allah and the Commands of the Koran', 'I do it in allegiance to ISIS' ,etc.

    Only then does a massacre qualify as a terrorist attack.

    Some muzzie immigrant from Syria who hacks his girl 'friend' to death on the streets of Germany, attacks the people around, and tries to attack the Police is not a 'terrorist' in Q-World, because he has not announced that he is.....

    He is just 'crazy', despite the fact that this type of behavior is not associated with the Europeans these days, and despite the fact that it is closely associated with moslems through the ages, and particularly ISIS today.

    This is the kind of bullshit special pleading that Quirk tries to foist on readers.

    It's a waste of time trying to talk reasonably with this man.

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    1. If Quirk doesn't want to call it a terrorist attack, one would think he might at least call it something like 'behavior most often associated with moslems' or some such.

      Instead he tries to minimize it and normalize it by calling it 'crazy', which of course it is, but misses the point that it is so often associated with moslems, and not Jews, Christians, Mormans, Western agnostics or Hindus....

      Calling it 'crazy' is just Quirkian bullshit exonerating special pleading.

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    2. Muzzies males, as per the commands and 'revelations' of the holy Koran, think of women as sub-human, as worth 1/2 a male human being.

      Thus, there tends to be much less resistance to hacking them up with machetes if one feels they are 'misbehaving'.

      Quirk tries to hide this obvious fact by denying any association with the Koran or terrorism when some muzzie hacks up his girl 'friend' on the streets of Europe.

      It is just 'crazy' and has no association with moslem 'culture' whatsoever.

      The fact is this kind of crap is happening all over the world each day, as I have tried to point out via Jihad Watch and other sources, etc.

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      Bob, you are an idiot. You just went on a three post rant about me and the Syrian refugee/immigrant/whatever he is.

      The only guy I have talked about today is the Munich gunman. I have said nothing about the Syrian immigrant/refugee or any other attack in Germany other than the Munich gunman.

      The only thing I did mention about the stories of the other attacks that have been posted today was that you guys were now trying to use them to divert from the fact that you came short regarding the Munich gunman story and were trying to insinuate I would be making up excuses for the other attacks.

      This diversion tactic is nothing new with you yahoos. You use it every time you lose an argument so naturally you are using it all the time.

      Reference WiO's Rules for Radicals #6 from above.

      If you deny this, please reference the point where I tried to excuse the actions of the Syrian immigrant you are talking about or where I said his wasn't a terrorist attack.

      Otherwise, just admit you are simply a bitter old fart that is lying or that you are just too stupid to follow a blog stream from top to bottom.

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    4. Go pass your gas with the Bernie Folk.

      Your contribution would be 'immense', even nebula like.

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      What, no backing up your comments?

      No apologies?

      No admitting that you are a simple old buffoon?

      My. My.

      Well, as expected.

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  47. Meanwhile, opponents of Clinton as the candidate are stockpiling beans in Philadelphia, to help them to say what they really think about what stinks in American politics, as Clinton gives her acceptance speech on Thursday evening.

    Billed as a "fart-in", Democrat protesters and other activist groups, inside and outside the Wells Fargo Centre, are being urged to time their consumption of beans for maximum impact as Clinton speaks.

    Not since the movie Blazing Saddles, Mel Brooks' cult classic from 1974 in which the characters cheerfully broke wind, has flatulence been harnessed for such a meaningful role in the political culture of the US.

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    1. I'll enthusiastically pass gas to that !

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  48. PHOTOS: DNC erects four-mile eight-foot tall fence around Philly convention site

    http://www.theamericanmirror.com/dnc-erects-four-mile-fence-around-philly-convention-site/

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    1. Excellent idea !!!

      Wall them in !

      Wall them in !

      Quarantine them there !

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  49. THE footage is terrifying.
    A woman emerges from a silver car, innocently strolls to the other side of the vehicle and opens the door.

    ...

    This is the moment a visitor to a Beijing wildlife park was mauled to death and another badly inured by Siberian tigers, Chinese media has reported.

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  50. Recent "Q"Nits: Germany:

    Germany: Muslim migrant murders pregnant woman with machete
    By Robert Spencer on Jul 24, 2016 05:29 pm

    Germany: Muslim migrant murders pregnant woman with machete
    “Police said they do not suspect any terror links.” Of course not. A Muslim with a machete murdering a non-Muslim — who ever heard of such a thing? The idea that we are in a war is inconceivable; these are all separate and unrelated criminal acts. Nothing to be concerned about, and certainly no relation […]
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    Germany: Muslim bomber carried powerful explosives, authorities say no evidence of “extremism”
    By Robert Spencer on Jul 24, 2016 11:03 pm

    Germany: Muslim bomber carried powerful explosives, authorities say no evidence of “extremism”
    “So far, the investigation has found no evidence of an attempted political assassination or extremism…” As if a Muslim carrying out a jihad/martyrdom suicide bombing in a wine bar weren’t evidence enough of “extremism.” Have German authorities determined yet whether or not the invasion of Normandy was a sign of anti-Nazi sentiment? “Bavaria bomb blast […]
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    Germany: Jihad suicide bomber at wine bar was Muslim migrant
    By Robert Spencer on Jul 24, 2016 10:32 pm

    Germany: Jihad suicide bomber at wine bar was Muslim migrant
    Note the German authorities’ spin: the jihad murderer was a Muslim migrant who was denied asylum. The subtext, therefore, is that we must welcome the poor refugees — with the further subtext being that we simply have to welcome them, or else they will, in their desperation, kill us. They’re saying this even though this […]
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    Germany: At least 1 dead, 11 injured in suicide bombing at wine bar
    By Robert Spencer on Jul 24, 2016 09:03 pm

    Germany: At least 1 dead, 11 injured in suicide bombing at wine bar
    A suicide bombing? I’m the only one who will tell you this, but that’s jihad: “Indeed, Allah has purchased from the believers their lives and their properties, for that they will have Paradise. They fight in the cause of Allah, so they kill and are killed.” (Qur’an 9:111) You can come back and tell me […]
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    http://us1.campaign-archive1.com/?u=12857896c3097382b25b80a09&id=91de392bee&e=ed5f5d431b

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  51. Wasserman Schultz Resigns as DNC Chairwoman – Is Served Class Action Lawsuit for Rigging Primary

    http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/07/wasserman-schultz-resigns-dnc-chairwoman-served-class-action-lawsuit-rigging-primary/

    Debbie Wasserman Schultz Served Class Action Lawsuit for Rigging Primaries
    This is the first of many consequences the Democratic Party will face for manipulating millions of voters

    http://observer.com/2016/06/debbie-wasserman-schultz-served-class-action-lawsuit-for-rigging-primaries/

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    1. Class Action Lawsuit for Rigging Primary


      :)
      :)
      :)

      LOVE to be on that jury !

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  52. .

    DWS says she will be stepping down after the Dem's Convention. Plans to give the beginning and ending speeches at the convention.

    Her opening speech at the convention will be 'must see' TV if for nothing else than the reception she gets.

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    Have all the Wikileaks been released?

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    1. NO !

      Someone on Fox News was just talking about that, and the answer is NO !

      I wonder if any of this might ever SINK IN to the Bar's only overt Hillary supporter....Mr. Gruesome, down there in Mississippi ?

      Stranger things have happened.

      Malik Obama is now for Trump, for instance, and is on record as saying O'bozo really messed things up....

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    2. Hillary has suddenly begun grousing around about how she is 'being held to a higher standard'.

      This must qualify as one of the laughing knee slappers of the year, as so far she hasn't been held to any standard at all.

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