“Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we.” - George W. Bush

All The Best


I want to thank everyone who participated in the Elephant Bar over the past twelve years. We had millions of visitors from all around the World and you were part of it. Over the past dozen years, two or three times a night, I would open my laptop and some of you were always there. I will miss that.

My plans are to continue my work with technology and architecture. You know my interests and thoughts.

At times, things would get a little rough in the EB. To those of you that I may have offended over the years, I apologize. From all of you, I learned and grew.

An elephant never forgets.
Be well.

Deuce, 21 June 2018

Sunday, July 17, 2016

3 More Cops Dead in Louisiana Ambush

By Sam Karlin
BATON ROUGE, La., July 17 (Reuters) - Three police officers were shot to death and three others wounded in Baton Rouge, Louisiana on Sunday, in what authorities said was an ambush less than two weeks after a black man was killed by police, sparking nationwide protests.

The officers in Baton Rouge were responding to a call of shots fired when they were ambushed by at least one gunman, Baton Rouge Mayor Kip Holden said.

One suspect is dead and police are checking the shooting scene with a robot to make sure there are no explosives, Baton Rouge Police spokesman L’Jean Mckneely said.

Police told reporters authorities are seeking more than one suspect and said the public should be on the lookout for people dressed in black and carrying long guns.

President Barack Obama has been briefed on the shootings and will be updated throughout the day, the White House said.

Obama has sought to balance concerns about police abuses, largely against African-Americans, while paying tribute to fallen officers. He attended a memorial service last week for five Dallas police officers killed by a black ex-U.S. soldier at the end of a protest against fatal police shootings of two black men, the one in Baton Rouge and another in Minnesota.

The Black Lives Matter civil rights movement has called for police to end racial profiling, bringing the issue to national attention ahead of the Nov. 8 U.S. presidential election. Republicans have pushed back, calling for support of the police.

It is a time of especially heightened security across the country, notably in Cleveland and Philadelphia, hosts to this week's Republican National Convention and next week's Democratic National Convention, respectively, which are expected to formally nominate Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton for the election.
“We demand law and order," Trump said in a Facebook posting Sunday afternoon.


Sunday's shootings occurred around 9 a.m. local time (1400 GMT) about a mile from the Baton Rouge Police Department headquarters, where dozens of people were arrested earlier this month while protesting the death of Alton Sterling. The 37-year-old African-American father of five was shot and killed at close quarters by law enforcement officers on July 5.

A witness to Sunday’s shootings, Brady Vancel, told a CBS television affiliate he had seen a gunman, a second man in a red shirt lying in a parking lot and another gunman running away "as shots were being fired back and forth from several guns."

He said the police arrived shortly after the gunfire began.

“Multiple officers from both agencies sustained injuries and were transported to local hospitals," a police official said in an email.

One officer was listed in critical condition at Our Lady of the Lake Regional Medical Center, while another was in fair condition, hospital spokeswoman Kelly Zimmerman said.

The third injured officer was taken to another hospital and his condition was unknown.

While the scene of the shootings was contained, police warned residents to stay away from the area.
It was not immediately clear whether there is a link between Sunday’s shootings and the recent unrest over the police killings of black men.

The Justice Department, which has opened a federal probe into Sterling’s death, declined to comment on Sunday's shootings.

(Reporting by Lisa Lambert, Ian Simpson, Tim Gardner and Julia Edwards and Sarah N. Lynch in Washington; Writing by Paul Simao; Editing by David Evans and Mary Milliken)

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  1. When was the last time you saw a US flag at full staff?

  2. Replies
    1. The oppressed rising up against their oppressors?

    2. You really Really REALLY need a good non lethal mugging.

    3. Robert "Draft Dodger" Peterson has told us that the FBI is corrupt, the Justice Department is corrupt, the Bureau of Land Management are terrorists, but he does not think anyone would rise up against the oppression he sees and tells us about.

      Proof positive that he is truly a coward, and projects his cowardliness upon everyone else..

  3. The shootings are NOT race-related according quoting East Baton Rouge Sheriff’s Office.

  4. How anyone can claim there is no connection with such easy access to weapons is beyond comprehension.

    1. Should we question the easy access to box cutters, trucks too?

  5. We need to find out who the shooter is but unfortunately there can be no question that the weapon was easily and probably legally obtained by the gunman.

  6. The way it is now, almost any deranged, politically motivated or copycat killer gan repeat this process indefinitely. If the objection to common sense gun control is a loss of freedom, I can guarantee you that far more of us will be losing our own freedoms to protect freedom of plinking.

  7. Anyone that thinks this will reduce governmental controls and not decrease civil liberties is delusional.

  8. Police will become more militarized and surveillance will rise exponentially and the majority will unwittingly believe that is a good thing.

  9. It is absurd that Obama claims that this is the work of “cowards". A coward is someone who when faced with a life challenge, withdraws and runs in fear. If someone is assassinated by a shooter that does not make them a “hero”. The killer was on a mission to kill. The police were victims. The killer was against society, authority and was an anarchist or motivated by something that inspired him to go on a mission where he certainly would die while striking back against authority and the police.

    We made it easy for him to get a weapon to do his dirty deed. At all levels of society, media, entertainment and politics we have imbedded ourselves in violence. We introduce violence to children through video games. We call the administrators of violent “heroes”

    We glorify the great killers in history and are indifferent to the mass violence we have showered upon millions.

    To think that there is no connection is preposterous.

    1. Obama should always have a mirror handy for the times he utters the word “cowards".


    Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan’s plane was in the crosshairs of coup plotters’ fighter jets while en route to Istanbul, Reuters reports.

    The incident happened as Erdogan was heading back from a holiday resort during the recent attempted military coup.

    Turkish military stand guard near the the Taksim Square as people wave with Turkish flags in Istanbul. © Murad SezerDramatic Turkey footage reveals horrifying violence of coup struggle (GRAPHIC VIDEO, IMAGES)
    According to a former military officer cited by Reuters, "At least two F-16s harassed Erdogan's plane while it was in the air and en route to Istanbul.” The officer, who reportedly has knowledge of the events, went on to say that “they locked their radars on his plane and on two other F-16s protecting him.”

    However, the Turkish president’s plane reached its destination undamaged before dawn on Saturday. "Why they didn't fire is a mystery," the former official added.

    A senior Turkish official confirmed to Reuters that the incident took place. Another official is quoted as saying that Erdogan’s plane had "trouble in the air," without providing further details.

    Erdogan also reportedly said that the coup plotters had bombed places in the coastal town of Marmaris, where he had been staying, shortly after he left, as reported by Reuters. CNN Turk reported that some 25 soldiers descended from a helicopter while trying to capture the Turkish president at a Marmaris hotel. “[Erdogan] evaded death by minutes,” Reuters quotes the second senior Turkish official as saying.

    The same official told Reuters that Prime Minister Binali Yildirim was also directly targeted in Istanbul during the coup

    Strike a king, you better kill him.

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  12. Yo, b00bie, you been giving your 'an Armed society is a polite society' slogan a good work out these days?

  13. Baton Rouge Shooter Gavin Eugene Long Was Nation Of Islam Member, Railed Against ‘Crackers’ On YouTube Channel [VIDEO]


    1. Unlike the PFC, he made E-5.

    2. Anyone who was in the military will not be surprised at some of the trash that are in there. Some were that way before they got in and later straightened out, some broke bad or became more of what they always were except received military training to hone their skills.

      Our foolish adoration of the military is only possible because too few people know nothing about the military because they were never there.

      The men who served in WWII and up through Viet Nam were not so naive. IMO, I would wager that the caliber in the military today is wore than what served during the days of the draft.

  14. Yo, b00bie, you been giving your 'an Armed society is a polite society' slogan a good work out these days?

  15. https://twitter.com/FullFrontalSamB/status/754005058786910208

  16. Related Video: MSNBC Characterizes Baton Rouge Shooter As Member Of Right-Wing Anti-Government "Sovereign Citizen" Militia Group

    Loomis also called on Ohio governor John Kasich to ban open-carry in Cuyahoga County during the Republican National Convention. The request was denied.


  17. Just watched Trump and Pence on 60 minutes. Painful to watch.

  18. I thought the painful part was watching the harlet with the flaming red lipstick trying to get them to say "troops on the ground" , "water boarding is good" etc. She reaplly tried hard to trap them, but failed.

    1. Trap them? Shouldn't we defeat ISIS? Did Trump say something wrong when he said we should do more than just Waterboard the buggers? Was it wrong for him to say we should fight like them? How is that a trap?

    2. Ash, please. You can answer your own questions. She could have cared less about any issue. Her mission was to try and make them look foolish. I found the mt lion piece much more interesting.

    3. I didn't watch that interview nor do I know mt lion piece but why do you wish to hide Trumps views on these issues? He has been clear in the past on his views regarding torture. I would have thought you would embrace those views and encourage him to state them clearly in the national media. What are you embarrassed about? What kind of trap was laid for him by the 60 minutes lady?

    4. It is really quite funny, and telling, that you would think Trump would look foolish if he stated his views.

    5. That's not it at all, Ash. Go bait b00bie. I won't bite.

    6. Well let's agree that "torture" is NOT waterboarding.

      If you want to make a statement about it?

      Define it.

      Is denying a moslem the DIRECTION of Mecca torture?

      Is waterboarding? nail pulling? how about electroshock to the nuts and nipples?

      Is sleep depravation torture? how about solitary confinement?

      To me?

      Waterboarding and denying the direction of Mecca? fine.

      Now again, who is being tortured/enhanced interrogation?

      If it's a ticking time bomb about a nuke? Juice the sucker...

      If it's a low level thug/terrorist? Waterboard and mental games.


      I like the idea of cooking bacon with nude chicks as the chefs, all wearing tampons for the islamic terrorists and setting the food outside their cells while letting their dogs run around...

      woof woof.

    7. No, we do not agree that water boarding is not torture.

      Senator McCain KNOWS torture, much more than anyone who has not been tortured.
      Much better than any civilian baker from Ohio..Senator McCain says waterboarding is torture, it is torture.

    8. It was not torture when you used it in central america.


    9. How did you come up with that I was a baker?


    10. Candy makers, "O"rdure, are considered bakers.

      If you are no longer making candy, well, I guess you are still a baker, just an unemployed one. If you wqnt to deny being in the candy business, well, go ahead.

      But your past posts will show you to be liar, and a fool, if you makes such a claim.

    11. Interesting where did you come up with that?

      Never called myself a baker, well that's not accurate, 40 years ago baked bagels and such, but no candy.

      My past posts show that you in fact are a liar and a fool, and one that I reported to the AZ FBi for making death threats.


      And you still are a dead beat dad, self admitted of course.

  19. Not much of an interview, more like a failed ambush.

  20. I didn't watch the interview, but I just saw a picture that I would have sworn was taken from some weird Liberace spoof.

    1. Who furnishes their house with Gold-plated patio furniture?

    2. It's called capitalism.


  21. AshSun Jul 17, 09:41:00 PM EDT
    Trap them? Shouldn't we defeat ISIS?


    Maybe just deport all moslems from the west to the islamic world and let them fight it out...

    Sounds rational and decent...

    1. It has worked oh so well in Palestine/Israel, a model, "O"rdure tells us, to be emulated

    2. Jack, the name is What is "Occupation" not some slanderous word you invented.

      But in the Jewish state of Israel there was never any deportation of Moslems from Israel, they left in order to allow their brother arabs invade and genocide the Jews... But so sad, too bad...

      The safest, freest Moslems/Arabs LIVE as citizens of Israel all 1.2 MILLION of them.

      they are quite happy as compared to the arabs of egypt, iraq, syria or lebanon


    3. No, "O"rdure, I merely answer the question you ask with every post.

      What is occupation?, the answer is ordure.

      You keep asking the question, I will continue to answer it.

    4. You don't answer, you slander.

      The truth hurts? Jews cannot by definition "occupy" their historic lands.

      Now you?

      Are by the very definition an occupier.

      Embrace it

    5. I answer your question, "O"rdure ...

      That you do not like the answer, not my problem.


    6. That I will continue to answer the primary question you ask with each post, guaranteed.

    7. That you have no life, that you stalk people that is assured.

      BTW after my call to Stallone you could not even get an appointment with him..

      You can thank me later.

  22. Cleveland police union asks for suspension of ‘open carry’ in wake of Baton Rouge, ahead of RNC

    Gee, you think, what could possibly go wrong?


    Last week, I made a bet with three different Sandernistas, each for $25, that Bernie Sanders would take the usual Washington route of cowardice, hypocrisy, and co-option by handing an endorsement to Hillary Clinton. Never bet against politics as usual: After Sanders's capitulation on Tuesday, I am $75 richer and the staunchest of his supporters are stunned, disbelieving, irate.

    It would have been an extraordinary move for him not to endorse, given the primary results and the delegate count. But the Sandernistas, bravely idealistic or perhaps merely deluded, thought they had an extraordinary candidate.

    Polls generally show most Sanders supporters are willing to back Clinton over Donald Trump—if only to keep the Trump monster out of office—even if they consider Clinton a dishonest agent of elites.

    Funny thing is, I can't find these willing Clintonites, certainly not here in Idaho where I've been traveling and living in recent months and where Sanders won the Democratic caucus with nearly 80 percent of the vote.

    Instead I find delegates for Sanders like Naomi Johnson, a 35-year-old social worker who at the news of the endorsement climbed to a rooftop in downtown Boise with five other delegates to howl "fuck" like a pack of baying animals. “We flew off the hinges, we cursed, we cried,” said Johnson.

    1. Bottom Line: Bernie is a bigger fraud than Clinton.


    2. Clinton leaned over backwards to put most of Bernie's propositions into the Democratic Platform.

      He Did end up having an effect on the Democratic Party.


  24. FRIDAY, July 15, 2016 (HealthDay News) -- A new report finds health care improved in much of the United States between 2011 and 2014, mostly because more people were insured and doctors and other providers did a better job.

  25. Good God, I see from the earlier, above, it looks like Deuce, among so many other strange things, seems to be becoming something of a gun grabber.

    I say 'seems' and 'something of' as I don't know his 'official' position yet, but the signs are 'worrisome', like the sign on the road that says:

    "Caution: Danger Ahead"

    The people of Paris, even many of the Police, are disarmed, and it hasn't helped them any. In fact, it has harmed them....

    1. I am looking, right now. at a picture of one of the dead Officers in Baton Rouge, a nice looking black named, if I got it right, Montel Jackson.

      Probably had a wife, kids, whom he loved, and provided for, including using his life to protect them, and you and I.

      One of SMIRK'S (that dumb fuck) 'oppressors'.

  26. Brief intermezzo -

    The Allegory of the Cave

    **Dedicated to Deuce and Quirk**

    (and SMIRK, and Doofus too)

    "I do not say that what I have related is exactly true, only that men of good sense would affirm that it, or something like it is true."


    You will have to click the link. it does not cut and paste, alas.

    It is shortened, with notes, so your attention spans should not be unduly challenged....

    1. The Myth of the Soldier Er coming up soon !

    2. This -


      -contains a simple pictoral representation of the cave.

      A warning is contained in the Allegory of the Cave that if you should be one to escape to the upper earth, and obtain a better view of things, as I maintain Jesus had been able to do in Matthew 4 1-17, once your eyesight has adjusted to the light, you should be cautious of returning to cave talking of it to the prisoners there, and to all and sundry, on the street, as you might well get killed for your indiscretions, and was Jesus, being thought insane.

  27. I see, scanning the commentary above, that DBDratordure is back, wafting his usual smell of decay and death about....

  28. "Q"Nit: Idaho: continued...

    Idaho hospital refuses to release medical records of 5-year-old raped by Muslim migrants
    By Robert Spencer on Jul 17, 2016 02:14 pm

    Idaho hospital refuses to release medical records of 5-year-old raped by Muslim migrants
    The more that comes out about this appalling story, the worse it gets. Authorities appear desperate to protect Muslim migrant criminals at all costs, lest the public get a negative view of the migrant influx. This article contains a good summary of the chain of events. “Exclusive — Pamela Geller: Hospital Refuses to Release Medical […]
    Read in browser »

    A five-year-old girl was raped and urinated upon by three Muslim migrant boys in Twin Falls, Idaho; one of them, a 14-year-old, videotaped the attack. After the attack, instead of getting justice, the victim’s family has been abused and targeted by law enforcement and medical authorities as if they were the criminals. The mother cannot get copies of the medical records of her own child, or transcripts of 9-1-1 calls made on the day of the attack.

    In examining notes taken of their conversations with the victim’s mother, I was taken aback by how contemptuous they are of her. They talk down to her, as if she were the perpetrator, not the mother of the victim of this monstrous attack.

    It is outrageous. And it gets worse. The supposedly seven-year-old rapist who put his penis in the girl’s mouth, urinated on her and in her mouth, and who reportedly owned the blue pocket knife that he used to threaten her, was never even removed from his home. That family still lives next door to the victim. For the longest time, the attacker wasn’t even limited in his access to the community’s children; now he must be supervised by someone 14 years old or older. When they stipulated this, the court had to have been aware that the boy who videotaped the rape was 14. This a gross insult against this victimized family — and a direct result of a judge’s decision.

    Meanwhile, the neighbor of the family who caught the perpetrators in the act, an elderly woman known to all as “Grandma Jo,” has been living in constant terror since she first happened upon the grisly scene. She has been stalked by the Iraqi family of the seven-year-old attacker. Her apartment is back-to-back with theirs; they peer into her windows and pace back and forth in front of her apartment in a clearly menacing manner....


  29. Republican National Convention begins tomorrow !

    Alas, I will be on the road much of the day.

    Cheers !


  30. (ah hah -

    Baton Rouge Shooter Gavin Long Was Nation Of Islam Member...
    Railed Against 'Crackers' On YOUTUBE...
    '100% Of Revolutions Successful Through Bloodshed'..DRUDGE

    Does this mean this event is another in the long line of "Q"Nits: Domestic Terrorism ?

    I will consider this question later.)

    1. The latest Freddie Gray trial is close to a decision

      posted at 5:01 pm on July 17, 2016 by Jazz Shaw

      The latest of the Freddie Gray trials in Baltimore, that of Lieutenant Brian Rice, took barely a week from opening remarks to closing statements. (And it happened entirely while I was on vacation.) They wrapped things up on Thursday in a bench trial before Judge Barry Williams, who is scheduled to deliver his decision tomorrow morning. As I observed before this one even began, Marilyn Mosby’s prosecution team seemed to be facing tough sledding. The judge was wary of several maneuvers they attempted, including dumping thousands of pages of Rice’s training records into evidence mere days before the proceedings began. (That submission was rejected by the judge.) During the actual presentation of the prosecution’s case, things didn’t seem to go much better.

      As the Baltimore Sun reports, the judge was open to hearing interpretations of the events surrounding Gray’s arrest from both sides, but it sounds like the prosecution’s version of the story was coming across as a bit of a stretch.

      Deputy State’s Attorney Janice Bledsoe used city surveillance footage to show there was not a particularly large crowd at the scene, and said the people who were there — including Brandon Ross, Gray’s friend — were not threatening the officers but “begging” them to treat Gray better. She said Rice was simply uncaring, and that Gray is dead because of it.

      Michael Belsky, Rice’s attorney, cited other evidence, including testimony from Rice’s fellow officers, to suggest a more volatile scene. Twice, he quoted directly from a video Ross shot in which a bystander can be heard yelling, “Pop this dumb— m—f—. I’ll bust them.”

      “These aren’t cavalier, light-hearted words when you are a police officer trying to restore order,” Belsky said.

      That short snippet from the testimony seems to characterize the tone of most of the trial. The challenge for the prosecution is to put the judge inside the head of Lieutenant Rice during the initial arrest of Freddie Gray and the subsequent stops on the trip which ensued. They aren’t even claiming that Rice himself inflicted any injury on the suspect, but rather that he should have known enough to ensure that his officers put a seat belt on Gray or intervened to provide medical assistance sooner. The defense argues that the officers were working in a hostile environment, and even if they weren’t, the failure to follow seat belt procedures can’t be construed as some sort of intentional infliction of harm or even knowingly “setting the stage” for injury.

      As I noted before this trial began, this is the same judge who the city attorneys failed to convince when they claimed that the officers who directly handled Gray were charged with either intentional misconduct or gross negligence. It seems highly unlikely that he would find the supervisor guilty of the same or similar crimes. On the charges of involuntary manslaughter and reckless endangerment they will need to persuade Williams that Rice was not only grossly negligent, but fully aware that his actions could have resulted in Freddie Gray’s death or serious injury. That seems a high bar to reach given the decisions which came from prior trials.

      If Marilyn Mosby strikes out on this one tomorrow, will she continue with the remaining trials? This has turned into a grim comedy of errors for the City of Baltimore, and at this point there is no reason to place any further faith in Mosby’s leadership.


  31. Slain Baton Rouge Cop’s Haunting Facebook Plea: ‘Please Don’t Let Hate Infect Your Heart.’

    ‘I swear to God I love this city but I wonder if this city loves me,’ Baton Rouge officer Montrell Jackson wrote shortly before his death.

    Jackson was on the force for 10 years and was the father of a 4-month-old boy, Mason, with his wife.



    1. Al Sharpton:

      "I believe in offing the Pigs."