What in the world is going on here? On Friday evening Mark Folly annouces his immediate resignation from Congress and by Sunday morning, Speaker of the House, Dennis Hastert and the Republican leadership are scrambling for their political lives.
This Foley business has a Democrat aroma. Their MO is to get Republican leadership, Newt, Delay and now trying to bring down Hastert.
Also, there has been a stampede both within the Republican party and outside it to lynch Hastert. I don't think much of him or Frist but, hasn't it been a little premature to bring out the torches and rope?
So what if the Republicans have been spending like drunken Democrats? That's not a reason to put back in office drunken Democrats whom known rule of governance is tax and spend.
A slick saga if ever there was one, these Foley Follies.
ReplyDeleteThat each individual Republican Leader punted is telling. It looked like a building imploding or the Towers pancaking.
No structural integrity.
The charges were very well placed, considering the combined effect.
No amount of damage control will right the ship, in the one or two Districts that are directly involved. FL16 & perhaps Mr Reynolds's in NY.
But also, like the Towers and OK City, the conspiracists will have their say, but time is short to spin an alternate reality that will have any impact.
Vote Foley,
he stands for Republican Values!
At best it was an op against Foley, who took the bait, hook, line and sinker.
ReplyDeleteBut the rest, the Republican implosion, that was just bonus points for the "hard men", if it was a conspriacy of Clintonian Operatives.
sorrrrrryyyyyy whit. i do npot know what happened . i just posted and added the graphic.. mea culpa pal
ReplyDeleteIt was all for the one seat, FL16 rufus, if it was a black bag operation.
ReplyDeleteThat is just how tight the Game is.
Almost Roman, but we've yet to start the murders.
The "hard men" are still, for the most part, held in reserve.
rat, compliments on several very perspicacious posts on this thread.
ReplyDeletethe lead is, she was telling the gov't that the street violence has GOT to be stopped, that US support is at risk.
ReplyDeleteI'll bet the house she's not there for the scenery.
ReplyDeletebtw rufus,
ReplyDeletehow about a post on that change in the online gambling law?
Whit,
ReplyDeleteI offered the other day to donate $100 to the EB. The offer still stands.
What I had in mind when making the offer was to keep Sumner Redstone from doing a hostile takeover but I figures I couldn't get''em off the copy machine fast enough..
BUT..a kitty for things like this video and expanding into that world, where we can run video(I'm not a techy at all) would no doubt help out. 2164 has my email and home address so if I can contribute let me know.
Just as long as we don't show "Birth of a Nation" I'm down with it , you dig?
The Republican leadership went belly up because they believed the Foley tale. I wonder why?
ReplyDeleteThe Republican leadership went belly up because they believed the Foley tale. I wonder why?
ReplyDeleteThe GOP leadership went belly up from guilt, because they were trying to keep the Foley tale under wraps at least for five more weeks. After the election, they could throw Foley out of his seat and let Jeb Bush pick a replacement. Now the voters get to pick his replacement and it might be the Democrat. The leaders didn't have a plan for what to do if the Foley tale got traction in the media before the election. The sudden resignation, the rehab, the story about a molesting priest, and the Ellen-like announcement, "Yep, I'm Gay!" ensured that the Foley tale would have all the traction in the world.
Can you uplink to a sat for $5.00?
ReplyDeleteFake but accurate.
ReplyDeleteBet Foley went incommunicado prior to signing into the AA rehab center, No Calls!
Left the boys thinkin' the worse
THIS SHOULD FROST AS FEW OF US
ReplyDeleteMuslim Prayer In Public Schools
Wednesday, October 4, 2006
In a case that illustrates how separation of church and state applies only to Christianity, various courts have given a public school district permission to continue teaching Islamic indoctrination that includes reciting prayers and adopting roles as Muslims.
By rejecting an appeal this week, the Supreme Court has let stand two lower court decisions that allow a northern California public school to teach middle school students about Islam by having them recite language from prayers and making them adopt roles as Muslims for three weeks.
Students use Muslim names, pray in class and memorize passages from the Quran. They also give things up, such as television or candy, to simulate fasting during the month of Ramadan. When a group of Christian students sued, claiming that the activities had crossed the line from education into an official endorsement of a religious practice, a federal judge and appeals court ruled against them saying that the class had an instructional purpose.
The courts have not been so friendly to Christians and neither have public school districts across the nation, which have prevented Christian students from engaging in activities that supposedly violate the separation of church and state. Examples include a court ruling that the word God in the pledge of allegiance violates church-state separation and the recent disciplinary threat against a Maryland middle school student for reading the Bible during her free time at school.
One blog sarcastically writes; Christians praying during school hours? We can’t have that. Teachers leading Muslim prayers in class? Why not. It goes on to say that Supremes okay establishment of religion in this case.
rufus & teresita,
ReplyDeletere: guilty
They threw Foley overboard in less than 24 hours. Was it guilt or conviction? And if conviction, what in their experience would instantly lead them to the acceptance of Foley's guilt?
They did not fight because they thought they had been had.
"... Rasmussen Reports released information this morning, in polling conducted Tuesday and Wednesday nights, that 61% of American adults believe Republican leaders have been "protecting Foley for years." Hard to tell how much sentiment like that, if accurate, effects Bob Corker in Tennessee or Heather Wilson in New Mexico - 1, but we should start to see generic ballot numbers soon, as well as individual race polls taken after Wednesday. ...
ReplyDelete... However, until we start to see some polling post Oct 4th the only thing I would say for certain is the political volatility has exploded, but I would sure be nervous if I was holding a lot of long GOP futures. ..."
John McIntyre at RCP
Hypocrisy and sex scandals on Capitol Hill....near election time. It's as surprising as gambling going on at Rick's in Casablanca.
ReplyDeleteDrudge claims it was a prank by pages' that got out of hand when the IM's "fell" into the hands of Democratic pages (you know those incestuous pages). The brobdingnag nature of DC at election time is why Will Rogers said,"Ancient Rome declined because it had a Senate, now what's going to happen to us with both a House and a Senate?"
Well, we've got another three hundred years to find out, and we've already had our Caligula so I figure we're way ahead.
McIntyre, one of the two RCP guys, says the real polling that will accurate to the fallout, happened today, or yesterday. The numbers will be out soon.
ReplyDeleteFOX's Colmes says Reynolds is now down by 4 or 5. Who knows for sure?
the battle of Baghdad is turning out to be “a critical point in the Iraq war,” says former Pentagon analyst Anthony Cordesman.
ReplyDelete“Securing Baghdad ... won’t win. But losing Baghdad will lose,” Cordesman says. “If they lose, Iraq is likely to slip into a major civil war.”
Much of Baghdad is yet to be targeted in the joint U.S.-Iraqi pacification operation. Top commanders — signaling the toughest fight is yet to come — say they need six more Iraqi battalions, or 3,000 soldiers, to join the 30,000 Iraqi security forces and 15,000 Americans already in the city...."
The beat goes on and on and on
Many of the estimated 23 Shiite and Sunni militias operating in the capital have ties to the very politicians whom the U.S. encouraged to join the new government of national unity. Al-Sadr, for example, is a pillar of support for Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki.
ReplyDeleteAnd gunmen considered by the Americans to be a threat to Iraq’s survival are often viewed by their own communities as their best source of protection.
Problematic politics
“There’s a lot of politics going on now, and we’re a police force, not an army,” said Sgt. Nicholas Sowinski, 25, of Tempe, Ariz., assigned to the 4th Squadron, 14th Cavalry Regiment. “It limits our options.”
rufus,
ReplyDeletere: Panic
Panic would be a rational explanation only if the principals knew Mr. Foley well enough to believe him capable of the accusations. Do recall, it was not discovered the pages were adults until today. Therefore, the Republican leadership worked from the probability or common knowledge that the gentleman was a pervert.
I might also panic if I had participated in trying to cover up what I thought at the time to be probable pederasty.
Man Apologizes for Courtroom Feces
ReplyDeleteA Chicago man apologized for spreading his feces around a courtroom during his trial on drug charges.
Vandale Amos Willis, 28, apologized Wednesday before being sentenced to more than 10 years in prison. Willis was convicted earlier of importation of a controlled substance, cocaine, and two other charges.
"Im going to take full responsibility for everything I did in Duluth," Willis told the court. "I want to apologize for everything I did in court. Im sorry, your honor."
He asked Judge David Sullivan to put him on probation. Sullivan told Willis his actions wouldn't be held against him, but there was no reason to depart from sentencing guidelines.
http://www.breitbart.com/news/2006/10/05/D8KINCCG0.html
redaktor any my partner whit. I owe you both an apology for being too quick on the trigger.
ReplyDeleteFirst to Redaktor. We allowed anonymous posts at the beginning and we got some kids that were posting garbage. When I saw your comments, I read them out of context. I thought someone hijacked your name and I shot first and asked questions later. I am sorry that I did that. I am not PC at all and if you and I were in a bar ball to eye ball, I could say things to you that were outrageous and you would look at my expression or hear the tone of my voice and understand the context. We lack that dimension here. We owe it to ourselves and friends to use a writing style that is clear and not open to misinterpretation. I did not read your post carefully, saw some words that I thought may be offensive to others and I deleted them. I did that as much to protect you, as someone posted that they thought it was an imposter. I am sorry for my mistake. you are welcome here. Worse yet, while I did that, I deleted my partners post.
FUBAR ruled and it was worse than when tator and habu jumped the elephant thing it was a goat. It will not happen again.
And don't forget the untimate October surprise....bombing Iran.
ReplyDeleteIt hasn't been mentioned lately cause it looks like a bad call to DR's more measured analysis..but I still have hope.
There's still plenty of time for
Ama-bad-mamma-jamma to look deeper into the well.
I might also panic if I had participated in trying to cover up what I thought at the time to be probable pederasty.
ReplyDeleteNo, the panic has to do with all the calls and emails every GOP congressman is STILL getting over this Foley thing, and it's accelerating, and the rate of acceleration is accelerating. Drudge and Rush and Hewitt are trying to damp it down, and there's a lot of wishful proclamations that the scandal is backfiring on the Dems, but secretly the RNC hopes Kim Il Jong lights off his big firecracker real soon.
Nancy loves a NAMBLA loving Commie Scumbag When Nancy Met Harry
ReplyDeleteNancy Pelosi winks at man-boy love.
TO THE REPUBLICANS:
ReplyDeleteWhen a good time turns around
You must whip it
You will never live it down
Unless you whip it
No one gets away
Until they whip it
Whip it good
Different Strokes for Different Folks.
ReplyDeleteToo Bad life ain't fair.
Re: Foley
ReplyDeleteIn 2003, Republican leadership thought they knew the caliber of Mr. Foley. They were right.
They were wrong in supporting the man for three years, against common decency. He should have been dealt with in 2003.
The voters are not interested at this point in the legalities. They are interested in behaviors based upon the commonly held understanding that Mr. Foley was a sexual predator.
In short, Republican leadership understood well, in 2003, that Mr. Foley was untrustworthy. They believed him capable of pederasty. Nevertheless, rather than move against him, they avoided a showdown. That failure of ethical leadership may come to harm them.
they were scared of being branded anti-gay, allen.
ReplyDeleteperfect storm--
ReplyDeleteWhere are the NAMBLA and Lincoln Log Prepublicans on this?
ReplyDeleteOne of the more damning IM's
ReplyDeleteNow I've got heartaches by the number,
troubles by the score
Ev'ryday you love me less,
each day I love you more
Yes I've got heartaches by the number,
a love that I can't win
But the day that I stop counting,
that's the day my world will end
Now, I won't say it's easy.
ReplyDeletePerhaps its folly.
But I am presently blogging whilst sitting on the commode.
Does that make me a blog-onaut or a toilet-onaut? What territory is being explored here?
I once powell doctrined a john in Mindanao; owners had to undo the whole thing, down to the wax seal. Course, then I decided to go back to school for my masters.
I think Rufus is right. West Palm Beach Representative.
ReplyDeleteHe's got a lot of pretty, pretty boys
That he calls friends
Discuss:
ReplyDelete---
Reocon said...
wretchard said...
So in principle, there would be nothing wrong with beginning conversations with the Taliban, as in every fight (e.g. IRA). But it has to be from a position of strength. Just my 2 cents.
Position of strength? Wretchard, are you now saying that there is a substitute for victory? A democratic accomodation with the Taliban? Isn't that what "conversations" with the IRA led to . . . the election of Sinn Fein members to Northern Ireland's parliament? Isn't that what Frist's comments on Fox were all about?
I think this kind of concession shows the utter bankruptcy of trying to tame Islamofascism through democracy. Seems you've learned nothing from the democratic rise of Hamas and Hezbollah: (Islamo)fascists use democracy as a stepping stone to power. Just look to how the Khomeneists took power in Iran or how Shiite Islamists took Basra from under our noses.
Why stop at the Taliban? Why not have "conversations" with Al-Qaeda? All they have to do is win elections in Afghanistan or Pakistan and we'll eagerly turn those countries over to them, babbling about the wonders of "democracy" all the while! They could probably start in Waziristan right now. This is the logic of democratic globalism taken to its defeatist extreme. Ridiculous.
Rufus,
ReplyDeleteIf you're good maybe Santa will get you this for a stocking stuffer.
"Who Cut the Cheese: A Cultural History of the Fart"
by Jim Dawson
ALSO DO THE MATH WITH 6 BILLION HUMANS....WE NEED A CAPTURE METHOD
The average human releases 0.5 to 3.5 litres (1 to 3 U.S. pints) of flatus in 12 to 25 episodes throughout the day. The primary constituents of flatulence (collectively known as flatus) are the non-odorous gases nitrogen (ingested), oxygen (ingested), methane (produced by anaerobic microbes), carbon dioxide (produced by aerobic microbes or ingested), and hydrogen (produced by some microbes and consumed by others). Odors result from trace amounts of other components.
doug, it's called "the political solution". Versailles was another.
ReplyDeleteReocon presumes Hamas and Hezbollah are end states.
ReplyDeleteMichael Totten recently described how Islamism "lost" in Algeria after the small coastal populace was convinced there was no peace to be had. The cost was 150k dead and all the unmeasurable losses that accompany submission to the Arab god. He's going there now to report more. I think the story out of there may give us some insight into what exactly is happening in these places.
Granted, we know from Afghanistan that its no small thing for Islamists to "own" Somalia and Sudan, but after a generation or two, Islamism has only Islam to offer, and human beings, be they oil tick or Chinese, care about me and mine. Islam purports to be about that, but its really just a negation of one heirarchy for the erection of a new one. And it calls this new one "Islam" or w/e.
There's lots of opportunity in this day and age and Islam is incompatible with it. The question is what events portend Islamism precipitating out of a culture?
Elections may be exactly a means to do that. I believe 2164th commented that one hearts & minds strategy is to let your enemy lose the support and enjoy the relative gain.
The Islamists have lunged and they are not known for their sense of balance. Reocon would call the fight. How naive.
I think Totten made a connection between the 150 k killed and the conversion there, when people grew weary of it.
ReplyDeleteEven after 150k in some places I think Allah's boys will still opt for more.
Plus, now it is supercharged with Oil/Heroin/Diamond and etc fuel.
Buddy,
ReplyDeleteHow else are you going to dissolve Cold War institutions? You need a nuke to go off. Why are humans so effing conservative? I've no idea, really. But if the heirarchy aint broke, it don't need fixing. Some folks will always call for negation. That's the nature of these organizations. "Anything is better" is not good enough. That's what dems say about Bush and its just as retarded (not suggesting youre saying this).
2164th's blogger profile has one take on the problem. Its in line with the Gates of Vienna stance. Then you have Dr. Barnett and the new map he took with him to Washington. Are you ready to build institutions for both visions? One or the other? Half of each? Frankly, I don't think we know how good or bad things are yet. That's why the mythology of the nuke and the cleansing backlash are brought up so frequently. They are a way of managing the terrible uncertainty.
These heirarchies are obviously broke to Rwandans. Americans cling to them like creationists do a memorized phrase. But what else to cling to?
Doug,
ReplyDeleteNot to repeat what you've already pointed out but there are certain precursors to having a "democracy"..it's not just about purple thumbs waving in the air.
That is the challenge we face with a tribal ME and Islam in general.
Their religion precludes subordinating Sharia law for legislative law.
Representative democracy worked in the Colonies and eventually through Europe because of the Enlightenment. It germinated the "rights of man", something that has not occured in the Islamic world. They never made it to the Enlightenment because they were already structured to a murderous ideology sold to them by a sword weilding snake oil salesman.
there was a commenter, "habu",
ReplyDeletewho discussed the digestion past "chew";
what exits airborne in the end, will almost always offend,
So it's never from me, but from "you".
How long do you want to bet oil, diamonds and heroin remain valuable? The whole of the 21st Century? Power based on spot prices? When their times are good, sure I'll be worried. But they won't always be good. What do we do then?
ReplyDeleteSome people said legalize the drugs, tax the oil etc. Its a way to attack those prices, but how much do prices need attacking? And do we really have a rational basis for such policys - or rather a rational expectation of structurally altering these markets by changing domestic policy? European drug addicts with all their decriminalization are the #1 market for the heroin ticks. What then?
Rufus,
ReplyDeleteI'm already think'n non breathable latex pants with "wind" valves. So at the spas in addition to the ubiquitous water bottle there's a handy velcro waist "wind" bottle.
On the sit up boards and crunch machines you could just valve into a central tank.
We could have stem cells grow reams of GI tract and just seed them with the right bacteria and turn them loose on some food that looses methane during metabolism.
ReplyDeleteI dont think fart harvesting will scale well when its scaling is retarded by etiquette and tabboos.
Actually, I think the most gas is released during the night. So the gym apparati would be just to show off to the new sexual mores Habu's cultural project would engender.
pastry, i hear ya. the cleansing fire is as old as time.
ReplyDeletebloodydarkpastryman,
ReplyDeleteI've notice you've used the word "rational basis" in your discourse on drug policy and altering institutions and so on.
Since when has "rational" replaced "power" as the prime moving force in the affairs of men?
"I dont think fart harvesting will scale well when its scaling is retarded by etiquette and tabboos."
ReplyDelete---
That's part of his evil plan to take down this society, one taboo at a time.
Habu's rules of etiquette.
The proof is in the poof.
ReplyDeleteDon't let that fart get lighted.
ReplyDeleteCleansing fires indeed.
ReplyDeleteone solution might be to develop methanephetamine. you still fart, but you simultaneously jump fifty feet away and thus escape the cloud.
ReplyDeleteHabu & Rufus,
ReplyDeleteThe Belgians have been on the bleeding edge of this research.
Behold, Cloaca
"Cloaca is an installation that produces feces.
The first Cloaca machine was exhibited at the MuHKA (Museum of Contemporary Art in Antwerp) in 2000.
The machine was "fed" an exquisite meal twice a day, the feces coming out at the other end of the processing unit as a result of the "digestion" of the food.
There are several Cloaca set-ups: the original setup is that of a series of containers in glass on a long table, while the more modern ones are comparatively shorter, digesting food through what looks like a series of washing machines. The latest Cloaca stands upright and is fed through the 'mouth', and resembles a garbage disposal unit."
The official website is here
It'd be like them badgers, but with Jetpacks!
ReplyDeleteartificial doo doo. Where's Rodney Dangerfield when ya need him? he said he once ordered a mail-order plastic girl, and now her mail-order plastic boyfriend is in town, looking for him.
ReplyDeleteHabu,
ReplyDeleteYou do bring up a good point. Stalin got those Canals built not by means of the persuasion of sharp powerpoint presentations etc.
But I guess I mean to say "rational" in the sense that its not simply an Underpants Gnome model, wherein its all appeal and no plan.
For instance, legalizing drugs sounds great, but how do we get to the point of lowering problems, such as organized crime and terrorism? Doug pointed out, quite hilariously, that the only reason people do drugs is because they love paying for them. A legalization regime would still leave us with all those addicts who become their own sort of 5th column, as was posted about here. And making the organized criminals and terrorists get addict money through legitimate channels will do what to necessarily weaken their organizations? And why can't their organizations be weakened by killing and capturing them? Why this fancy BS about price magic?
Power is great, but its use benefits from a bit of design. I'm not so sure power is useful without rational design.
OK...so we ditch the gym thing and move on to the circus and zoo elephants. If you structured the latex just right nd got bigger valves and "wind receivers" we could ...oh I think I've lost my mind
ReplyDeletePerhaps thats what we face at the beginning of the 21st Century, a lack of a rational design, in spite of all our theoretical power.
ReplyDeleteIts all on the blackboard, waiting for the nukes to greenlight it all. Then the world will be peachy, just you wait. Well have a draft and everything. No more 420s in the shadows either.
You've the 2164th/Gates of Vienna model and the PNM model. Wretchard seems to play the middle. Where do we go?
bloodydarkpastryman
ReplyDeleteLegalizing drugs wholesale wouldn't work. But then neither has the war on drugs.
Legalizing marijuana removes a good deal of crime. Why pay someone when you can grow your own?
So many of those criminals would move to other areas of crime..say heroin...provide heroin..fingerprint and photo.When they OD into the radioactive salt mine goes the body. They sign a release giving up a percentage of their social security. There are not perfect answers for you can never step in the same stream twice, but it's time to move onto other methods of killing off those that support narco-terrorism by purchasing illegal drugs.
Also when you shake up things, "traffic" happens and you then move toward the sound of the train wreck ie the new fights over territory, what to sell etc. Plus we'd pick it all up on ECHELON and move in for the "baiser de la mort"
well, Smith & Wesson's stock is up from 3 to 15 in the past years. that's a pretty damned powerful statement about where do we go from here, being a "mature" stock with a large float.
ReplyDelete"past YEAR", not "years". typo stomped my point.
ReplyDeleteBedtime for me too...mo on the morrow.
ReplyDeleteactually, since january, i believe.
ReplyDeleteyeh, me too--nite all
ReplyDeletelotsa good food for thought, pastry. enjoyed it--will re-read it tomorrow when theoretically more alert--
ReplyDeleteIt sounds cool to talk about in a blog, but do we have to kill them on the cheap?
ReplyDeleteI sometimes think the essential problem with the war on drugs is the lack of effective sensors. If we knew where more drugs were, thats more opportunities to intervene and destroy. If they move their crops into hydroponic bunkers wouldn't that hurt their market by lowering their margins by upping their expenses?
Your point on power resonates here, actually. We just need sensors and then we can cleanse an economy of the illicit stuff over the course of a few weeks. They'd be scrounging up seeds in the hopes they could hide fields and fields of plants better.
Cant we create turf wars and diverge preferences by attacking them as well as by playing Jolly Drug Giant?
theologically more ablurt
ReplyDeleteAlso, arent there difficulties with attacking faux-legitimate drug-vendors? Would they be the agro versions of the NYT or the UN, untouchable for they are festooned in current nefarious conjecture?
ReplyDeleteWhen the pristine new drug vendor companies hire Blackwaters, do we block their access to US and Belgian banks? Islamic banking is booming. Not sure there'd be a big problem, though I'm not a banker.
While the libertarian in you might bristle at the pillage of tobacco vendors in our day and age, its worth considering the broader implications of an addiction industry, especially a globalized, international one. What invisible hand is at work in the minds of addicts? Who polices the addiction industry? Why, Addiction Industry Trade Groups, of course.
yeah i need to be up in a few hours - im not on any elite 2164th cycle just yet
ReplyDeletenight EB
The World won't ever figure out how to put into practice all the problems you come up with pastry, so legalization works!
ReplyDeleteProblem Solved.
Hell, I caint even UNDERSTAND some of your problems, so how can I be sure they're REAL?
Eggxactly what kind of "Science" do you do, if I may ask?
ReplyDelete(Hopeing against hope your not into Cloacal Research)
Frankly, I thought the absence of the invisible hand of the addicts was the most unsettling point that became apparent to me.
ReplyDeleteThe "nefarious conjecture" point was muddled, I admit.
ReplyDeleteI just meant, all it takes is these beautiful pristine drug vendors becoming culturally cloaked to create a new optimized potentially anti american storm - one that could continue funding terrorism etc.
So I just see legalization as a non starter for fighting terrorism.
Its not serious. It can't be.
I do medical/bioinformatic stuff - and I'm not even sure what THAT is.
You?
Buddy 12:53
ReplyDeleteI'm holding you responsible for soiling my keyboard from spewing my coffee...lolololol
I'm sure the BC crowd is over tssk tssking how the EB has moved from goat sex to fart jokes.
Habu:
ReplyDeleteThanks for all of the posting tips. I've been taking copious notes and practising some posts on my daughter's etch'n scetch. Plan to share soon.