The Russian bear is stalking his old hunting grounds again . The intimidation is well under way and so far the response from the West led by GWB, Seer of Souls, is fairly, shall we say, silent. There has been a growing murmur from Europe, but Putin knows he has the Europeans under pressure because of oil and gas. The Putin charm will be at the next G-8 even though Russia is at best a G-22, but they are nuclear and dare I say it, "loaded for a bear".The BBC, this morning puts it rather bluntly:
Russia turns screw on Georgians
Russia has tightened restrictions on Georgians in Russia. Russia has ordered a crackdown on Georgian-owned businesses and tighter visa measures as part of the nations' escalating diplomatic dispute. Russia's parliament has backed tough sanctions against Georgia, which President Putin accused of "blackmail".
Growing tensions between the countries erupted when Georgia arrested four Russian officers it said were spying.
Moscow has cut postal and transport links between the countries. Georgia's president accused Moscow of "bullying".
Several businesses owned by Georgians in Russia have been closed down by the authorities.
We have been witnessing unbelievable militarisation of Georgia
Dmitri Peskov
President Putin's spokesman
Two popular casinos, two Georgian restaurants and a hotel have been raided, accused of financial irregularities.
President Vladimir Putin's official spokesman, Dmitri Peskov, told the BBC that they were accused of channelling funds to help in the rearmament of Georgia."
Of course this is all bullshit, or to be more correct, bearshit.
Yes, it's bear shit and yes, we are in the woods.
ReplyDeleteAs some of you may recall, some two months ago I published at the BC a comment critical of the USAF leadership’s refusal to permit Airmen the right to wear combat badges etc. earned while serving in combat roles in Iraq and Afghanistan. Austin Bay is now on the case. Trish will not be pleased to learn that her Air Force generals are frequently self-absorbed, petty, assholes. (On the other hand, she might just relate to that.)
ReplyDeleteAre USAF brass and bureaucrats denying airmen the right to wear combat awards?
The Police of France now say it's true, the Francofada is well under way.
ReplyDeleteRadical Muslims in France's housing estates are waging an undeclared "intifada" against the police, with violent clashes injuring an average of 14 officers each day.
Interior minister Nicolas Sarkozy was warned of an 'intifada'
As the interior ministry said that nearly 2,500 officers had been wounded this year, a police union declared that its members were "in a state of civil war" with Muslims in the most depressed "banlieue" estates which are heavily populated by unemployed youths of north African origin.
It said the situation was so grave that it had asked the government to provide police with armoured cars to protect officers in the estates, which are becoming no-go zones.
In Paris
"Muslims are waging civil war against us, claims police union"
You are attempting to argue the facts, rufus. The problem is that the story now has a life of it's own. Well beyond the facts.
ReplyDeletePerhaps if those e-mails had been released by Mr Hastert, before he blamed the Dems for "bringing it forward", he'd have been better off. But that is not his style.
Now all the messages are mixed, the story spun beyond his or the facts ability to control it.
To late to close the barn door
the horse has already run by
It like arguing about the War in Iraq and mentioning Saddam.
ReplyDeleteToday, Saddam's time in power is really inconsequental to the Iraqi War or the debate.
DR,
ReplyDeleteThat old “cycle of violence” routine is now in play in gay Paris. Send in Dr. Rice!
“…a vicious circle, as attacks by locals lead the police to harden their tactics, further increasing resentment.”
a vicious circle
Allen, how about "a vichyssoise circle" ?
ReplyDeleterufus,
ReplyDeleteyes, I do know those people.
That is the whole point.
Even more, though, I know people that tell me they are just voting the Propositions, not for any of the candidates.
The Will Rogers adage, voting for 'em only encourages 'em. It seems to be catching on, in the Republican strong holds of AZ.
The Propositions though, those are a big deal here, we legislate by Proposition, more and more.
Vox Populi. Gotta love it. Done wonders for CA. Currently shaking the perfidy out of the greenies, via the proposed state tax on oil companies.
ReplyDeleteMr Kyl hit Mr Pederson, with the AZ County Sheriffs, for supporting proviisions of the '86 Immigration reform.
ReplyDeleteMr Pederson hits back with Mr Kyl's Immigration Voting Record, which is worse, in headlines, than Mr Pederson's position.
The Sheriff ad has disappeared.
Polls have Mr Kyl up by as much as 10 pts. I think it's tighter than that, myself.
Mr Kolbe's District, AZ6, there are more than a few Repubs that are going to turn Blue. The moderate Republican, Mr Kolbe, an open homosexual will be replaced by a Democrat and AZ6 will be lost to the Republicans. TX22 & FL16 are a goner.
ReplyDeleteWas reading earlier that MN6 is now in play. The child rights advocated Dem, her young son abducted and never found, has picked up support, post Foley.
Yeah it's what, 35 days?
ReplyDeleteI still think the Dems are going to win small, but the chance of a Senate takeover looms larger.
I gotta agree w/ rufus--the Pubs are bottoming too far out--the last few weeks the fence-sitters are going to be educated on the difference between an economy and a few jerk-offs in DC.
ReplyDeleteneither TX22 or FL16 are "goners", yet.
ReplyDeleteDR,
ReplyDeleteI think you got it right regarding the mixed messages/lost ability to control the story, which by extension, is failed leadership. Kudlow nails Hastert to the wall for his incompetent leadership here, and I have to agree. I don't recall seeing Hastert defining the Republican message on TV since he was annoited; Delay was only slightly better. Many of us here being Gingrich fans, we know he is always about the "message", which given Internet speed of communications, should be a paramount concern of any national leader (also acknowledged by Rummie in the transcript Wretchard references today).
I gag at the thought of Madame Pelosi as Speaker, however, the Republican leaders have no one to blame but themselves if that comes to pass. Its not like they don't know that the MSM is one of their most difficult opponents, yet they have failed in devising and executing a strategy to neutralize that branch of the Democratic party.
Byron York holds out a slim chance for FL16, but more than:
ReplyDelete... House Majority Leader John Boehner (R-Ohio), appearing on Sean Hannity’s radio program, was asked about Negron’s chances and the fact that, to vote for Negron, people will have to vote for Mark Foley.
“How many people are going to hold their nose to do that?” Boehner asked.
The way he said it answered his own question: Not many.
Tom Slade, a former head of the Florida state Republican Party, agreed. “The only way you win is [voters] have got to vote for Mark Foley,” he told the Associated Press this week. “That doesn’t appear to me to be very attractive.”
Now, Mr York is not a depressed as John Boehner, so who really knows.
But the idea that an evangelical blue haired Floridian from West Palm Beach is voting Foley in 35 days or less, with vote by mail, boogles my mind.
In Texas, what if the lady's hyphonated name is misspelled, does it still count? Does the Judge that would not let Mr DeLay's name be replaced on the ballot get to decide?
Latest poll at RCP put Mr Kean down by 3.4, as the Democrats regain their traction, in that heavy, by registration, Democratic State
ReplyDeleteRCP Average 09/24 to 10/02 -
Kean 40.2% Menendez 43.6%
Menendez +3.4%
Acquiescence in the face of naked agression against a sovereign nation.
ReplyDeleteThe US has not even issued a formal note of protest to the New Soviets for their blockade of Georgia. NATO is mute. Did we learn nothing from April Glasby's administration of her meeetings with Saddam vis a vis Kuwait?
Once again it comes down to having too few in the military to be a superpower. We can no longer project, simply opine our displeasure, which we are also failing to do.
We should be awakening to the fact that an all volunteer army may sound good and relieve the burden from our lawmaker (lawbreakers) the task of implimenting a draft, but with both China and Russia in a resurgence can we long delay?
We are not responding as a superpower. Perhaps that status has no validity fro us any longer, in a world in flux, where terrorists roam at will and former superpowers enjoy a Renaissance.
Well, there's always this attitude--
ReplyDeleteQUESTION: Does ANYONE know Anyone who voted Republican two years, ago, that is actually, for real, going to go out and vote Democratic, This Year?
ReplyDeleteNo, but we can stay home. Same difference.
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ReplyDeleteit happened here.
ReplyDelete3AM shadows cast by the sodium lights, a metaphor for the underground existence played out by ruthless men adrift in dirty trenchcoats...
ReplyDeletePossumTater, fetch my Burbury, the one without the elephant stain. His only shame was that it was not an Monica model.
THE FERNANDES FILES
ReplyDeleteAll around the booth, beyond the foggy glass of the diner, civilization was crumbling, and the piled plates of half eaten pies and pancakes attested to both impulses of survival and escape.
The silver haired Philippino shifted in the linoleum, its sparing comfort budging barely beneath his trenchcoat.
Somewhere in Tennessee, away from the blast radiuses and intifada playgrounds of Australia, was the man that started it all - the fun and the internet...
The Aussie'd worked it all out: because time flows in a circle through the Quantum computer of the Unviverse, if he destroyed the Instapundit, he'd cease to be in the past and his false hopes would no longer haunt him as they had in the weeks within the freighter hull, where Chinese American Flags, pirated United 93 DVDs and IP law-subverting viagra were his only shipmates.
"Sir, would you like some more coffee?"
He broke his staring at the puddling cherries and lifted his head up, as if just asked a riddle by an idiot.
"And coffee will solve what, exactly?"
She laughed nervously and offered to take away the cluttered mess of the meals that were aspired to but undevoured.
As if his socialized brain had pried its way out of his skull as it grew more disheveled, matted and bearded, he stared at her as if she was a street performer, and leaned back in his seat like a monarch, the creak of the linoleum shrieking through the awkward silence.
When she turned to walk away, muttering "Asshole," he leapt up from his seat, all wild eyes and silver hair, a foregone mystic in a trenchcoat.
"Wait! I'm sorry, it's just that-"
And as she turned, surprised and unamused, with his back arched in rigid compulsive ceremony he tore apart the coat and displayed his naked self as if he were beaming evangelism out of his body.
She shrieked and tripped backwards over a chair as she pulled away, as if put to a hungry flame or a snarling dog.
The chef turned to see what the commotion was, seeing only the aloft coat trailing behind the nude patron as if it were a cape. By the time he thought to shout, the door bells were done ringing and the mystery man disapeared into the 3AM shadows.
Brilliant--but somehow repetitive.
ReplyDeleteBravo runt.
ReplyDeleteThis was posted at the BC on 22 August 2006:
ReplyDelete“allen said...
Senior Airman Ted Hestilow, recently returned from Iraq, served as part of a six man EOD team assigned to the Army. For exceptional service one day in Iraq, the Army awarded his three man group the Army Combat Action Badge. Of course, the Air Force will not permit his team members or him to wear the Badge.
Yeah, these guys take the guts out of explosive ordinance, fight gun battles with terrorists coming and going, and are killed and injured by IEDs (just like any grunt) while serving with the United States Army; nevertheless, the Pentagon peacocks cannot see the way to permitting them the recognition the Army believes they deserve.
Don’t know how this fits with Social Darwinism, but possibly you might want to know.
Air Force Times (28 August 2006)”
This issue became known to me in 2001. It was reliably verified in 2002. The matter arose again in 2003. On several occasions, the Air Force Times newspaper has addressed the issue, most recently in its 28 August 2006 edition.
How is it, then, that one of the blogosphere’s most worthy military commentators, Austin Bay, is only now weighing in, and that tentatively? Are we to believe that his numerous correspondents have kept him in the dark over the past five years? Could Colonel Bay, as the Republican leadership in the Foley scandal, have chosen to ignore an injustice for fear of hurting his home team, sacrificing the kids for the sake of party loyalty?
To see how the other side lives, i.e. Air Force brass, see the biographies of the current and the former Chief of Staff:
General T. Michael Moseley
General John P. Jumper
Note, General Jumper wears the fourth highest awards from the Navy, Army, and Coast Guard, as well as the French Legion of Honor.
US Air Force Ribbons
Frankly Habu, they just don't give a damn.
ReplyDeletethar wer typos
ReplyDeleteits an advantage to typin in possumtatese, no worries about no mistakes cuz its built into the character
ReplyDeleteMaintaining the high level of discourse for which the EB has become synonymous, see:
ReplyDeleteWell, it did not link. Check Ace, "Clock My Humps, Charlie Brown"
ReplyDeleteJust when you think you’ve heard the last of that wretched Larry Summers, TigerHawk resurrects him:
ReplyDeleteLarry Summers v Cornel West
Annals of lower education: Princeton host hip-hop confab
ReplyDeleteback on runtchard's avant-garde surrealist imagery, I thoroughly enjoyed it, as i do all such acts of raw creation.
ReplyDeletebut, why pick on Wretchard, when it's habu who keeps getting his ass booted for "primitivism"?
ReplyDeleteon second thought. it's not really "picking on", as fame does bring satire & parody. So runtchard is really complimenting wretchard; and as such I hereby withdraw my jibe at habu-the-horrible.
ReplyDeleteCornel West is a specimen, tho. A marxist nut job, riding race to fame & glory.
ReplyDeleteAllen,
ReplyDeleteI agree with your position that denying combat badges or insignia of some type is shoddy.
I read about thirty of the comments at Austin Bay with the usually different approaches and answers.
I appears that the Officers are going to continue to receive the "I had an olive in my martini" ribbon or run up an Air Metal tally that is absurd.
General officers I see on television look like bemetalled banana republic dictators with ribbons and medal from waist to shoulder. The you move to the special badges that look like 4th of July exploding firecrackers...the inflation of the anointed in the awards/ribbon area is way out of hand.
Give those Airmen what they have earned, no more, no less. And for the officers if it's not a Metal but rather "I've seen the cheese" ribbon then deny them the ability to wear those ribbons..let them be displayed in their offices or homes.
2164...you notice I picked the one where he's in the hooligans pen.
ReplyDeleteBTW..runtchard is not my work ..seems, and with great pleasure we have added to the reprobates tally..
Runtchard..welcome...
2164....I also can't tell you how big the smile is on my face (still) for your international rcognition. (yes I know you'll be gracious and spread the acclaim, but brother YOU were the one that stepped up, and YOU were the one, along ith Whit that made the choo-choo get going)
ReplyDeleteTonight I will toast both you and Whit for the successs you've made.
Now we all must keep passing the ammo and the word.
Rufus,
ReplyDeleteIt has often been said that true genius is the ability to argue both sides of an argument with equal aplomb. You found the info on Georgia vs. New Soviets and presented a revised picture. Kudos.
Putin is a KGB man all the way. It is bubbling to the surface with greater pressure than ever. His minions are going back to psywar and true pogroms will reappear.
W needs to be a cowboy at their upcoming meetings.
habu,
ReplyDeleteCompare the 1947 photo of Eisenhower as General of the Army to those just linked for the Air Force brass.
General of the Army Eisenhower in 1947
redaktør,
ReplyDeleteGood to see you in the EB. Can you dilate your position on the Georgia/New Soviet situation..?
Once in a cabinet meeting "Silent" Calvin Coolidge said not a word.
At the conclusion of the meeting one of his Secretaries said,"Mr. President I noticed you didn't say anything"
To which Silent Cal said, "When I'm talk'n I can't learn anything"
I'm all ears, or rather eyes. thx
Clock My Humps, Charlie Brown
ReplyDeleteThree ribbons, five stars and no name tag.
ReplyDeleteHow was anyone supposed to know who he was?
Allen,
ReplyDeleteIsn't it amazing. Five stars and three decorations on his "Ike" jacket THREE.
I think I mentioned my brother in law who was at Con Thien. Wounded three times, twice seriously, he refused all but one of his earned Purple Hearts..it was a code the Marines in those units at Con Thien had.
I think our generals are a lot less gutsy and a lot more Hollywood.
I remember on some occasions my father just wearing his Silver Star, Legion of Merit,DFC, and Air Medal ribbons... and he had a three rows after that.
habu,
ReplyDeleteDid you notice that President Eisenhower had three Secretaries of Defense?
Both President Washington and he reentered military service after leaving the presidency.
link
Buddy,
ReplyDeleteThink it would be possible to get a few cans of 1971 vintage Bon Vivant Vichyssoise?
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ReplyDeletehabu, buddy, rufus,
ReplyDeleteI don't want to be misunderstood. Every military member should proudly wear the badges of honor earned. Where I take exception is with USAF Chiefs of Staff who, with the stroke of a pen, could remedy an injustice. Those kids serving in the field should not be cheated by old guys who have not been in harm's way for decades.
The Air Force is completely out of hand. Two weeks ago, the USAF Secretary refused to attend or send a delegation to a joint service meeting, held to discuss the future of joint service medical care delivery. The Air Force brass argues that only Air Force medical personnel can adequately serve service members. An argument that is totally bogus, given that most medical staff now serving Air Force members are civilian; the Air Force having driven out so many of its active duty medical personnel.
Allen
ReplyDeleteOn my part there isn't a misunderstanding.
(yet another Father's wisdom story)
When i got my first (and only platoon) he told me. Take care of your men first and listen to your top enlisted men, 'cause son you're not gonna know shit for quite a while without 'em. Go hungry to feed your men, but take care of your Marines.
Rufus,
ReplyDeleteWe'll go and vote Rep with the knowledge that if we don't the nation will be in much greater peril ... I hope the people who vote but only listen to the MSM don't go bat shit and FUBAR us big time.
whit,
ReplyDeleteI mentioned that the facts are less important then the story at 11:52.
That is my take on it. The story has grown beyond the messages, wmails and the like.
Facts won't stem the perception flow. The damage has been done.
The Republicans are off stride, Mr Hastert sidlelined from fund raising. The magma beneath the fault 'tween the West's and South's version of what a Republican is building pressure.
If the Dems fail in November,
do they go the way of the Whigs?
What would a new party of the Center, a non governmentally institutionalized, New Party look like?
As likely center right, as center left. The Republicans are the Party of Institutionalized Government and Religion, now.
A thousand points for Federal funded lights.
None of those names are on the ballot, here. Amigo. Not a one.
ReplyDeleteIn my distrit, Mr Shadegg will win.
But my District is not in contention. The AZ District previously represented by AZ's gay Republican, Mr Kolbe, it is in contention.
Mr Kolbe has been an effective Representitive fr AZ. If he had sought reelection, he'd have won.
Instead of early action on Immigration, there was delay. That delay will have helped the Republicans to lose the District.
Intra Party squabbles, caused the grassroots to revolt, when moderation would have suited the "Professionals" cause.
Those Republicans voted their hearts and their souls. Not for Congressional dominance. They knew each and everyone, the cause and effect. The Party spent $200,000 USD to tell 'em.
That's the most telling tale of recent Republican voter patterns, in an Election.
That US Army Res. Major, the one with no legs, if she was running here, I'd vote for her, over Shadegg. But she's not.
Trish,
ReplyDeleteUSMC ...make real sure he knows that stands for Uncle Sam's Misguided Children...
Semper Fi
That link had Mr Hastert blamin' Clinton operatives. Perhaps those "hard men" habu and PB were pining for, in the old days.
ReplyDeleteBefore EB
Trish,
ReplyDeleteBest of luck to your young man.
redaktør,
ReplyDeleteThank you for the response which I found as an apologia for one of the most brutal countries to ever inhabit th globe.
But it of course is your business to defend the Lenin's, Stalin's,Felix Dzerzhinsky's,and the 30 or so million they killed, all because Georgia wants to be free.
This must have been slightly off putting to General Eisenhower: General MacArthur ranked him.
ReplyDeleteDoR, General of the Army
MacArthur 18 Dec '44
Eisenhower 20 Dec '44
Link
Trish,
ReplyDeleteMy entire family (the men) were Marines. When I went in my mother begged me to go into the Air Force..she said they had much nicer "O" clubs.
Probably should have listened to mom.
But tell him good luck and God's speed.
Whit, I never cared for the story on Foley. I never saw the here, here, or is it the there, there?. Probably a here. there.
ReplyDeleteA sixteen year old is not a child. The age of consent was 12 for girls until the 1890's. No such thing for a male. That does not mean our ancestors were perverts. It means they taught their children responsibility, ethics and how to use judgement. A 12 year old was supposed to know right from wrong.
Certainly a 16 year old boy does and if he doesn't he'd damn well should. The term pedophile has transmuted to another non-meaningful word. There should be a distinction between pedophilia, seduction and then rape.
habu1; 5:41:49 PM
ReplyDeletere: 30 or so million they killed
What a shame C4 isn't here to tell us of the Jewish Bolsheviks, the Jewish ACLU, the Jewish neo-cons, and, last but not least, the all powerful Jewish lobby.
I'm going to go way out on a limb and take a guess here and say that Red never witnessed the mobile gallows used by the Russians to pacify the ungrateful Hungarians and Czechoslovakians.
Allen, some posters here have taken to spoofing as you have noticed. I thnk and told Doug we need a C-4.1
ReplyDeleteNow, I think you would do it well!
2164th,
ReplyDeletere: C4
There are only so many disabled folks any one site can accommodate. However, C4 would be an interesting and controversial correspondent.
Yes ALLEN,
ReplyDeleteBut IKE took greatgreat solice in knowing he was the best clerk Mac ever had.
Mac and his father both won the Medal of Honor...can you name the only other Father & Son to do so?
rat @ 5:25, Duckworth, Tammy.
ReplyDeleteI'd always been told that was something awarded, not won.
ReplyDeleteredacktor, both Stalin & Beria *were* Georgians.
ReplyDeleteKGB Badger Reeducation Camp
ReplyDeleteTop 10 Democrat Sex Scandals in Congress
ReplyDeleteInformation compiled from the Washington Post, “Congressional Sex Scandals in History,” and other sources.
10. Sen. Daniel Inouye. The 82-year-old Hawaii Democrat was accused in the 1990s by numerous women of sexual harassment. Democrats cast doubt on the allegations and the Senate Ethics Committee dropped its investigation.
9. Former Rep. Gus Savage. The Illinois Democrat was accused of fondling a Peace Corps volunteer in 1989 while on a trip to Africa. The House Ethics Committee decided against disciplinary action in 1990.
8. Rep. Barney Frank. The outspoken Massachusetts Democrat hired a male prostitute who ran a prostitution service from Frank’s residence in the 1980s. Only two Democrats in the House of Representatives voted to censure him in 1990.
7. Former Sen. Brock Adams. The late Washington Democrat was forced to stop campaigning after numerous accusations of drugging, assault and rape, the first surfacing in 1988.
6. Former Rep. Fred Richmond. This New York Democrat was arrested in 1978 for soliciting sex from a 16-year-old. He remained in Congress and won re-election—before eventually resigning in 1982 after pleading guilty to tax evasion and drug possession.
5. Former Rep. John Young. The late Texas Democrat increased the salary of a staffer after she gave in to his sexual advances. The congressman won re-election in 1976 but lost two years later.
4. Former Rep. Wayne Hays. The late Ohio Democrat hired an unqualified secretary reportedly for sexual acts. Although he resigned from Congress, the Democratic House leadership stalled in removing him from the Administration Committee in 1976.
3. Former Rep. Gerry Studds. He was censured for sexual relationship with underage male page in 1983. Massachusetts voters returned him to office for six more terms.
2. Former Rep. Mel Reynolds. The Illinois Democrat was convicted of 12 counts of sexual assault with a 16-year-old. President Bill Clinton pardoned him before leaving office.
1. Sen. Teddy Kennedy. The liberal Massachusetts senator testified in defense of nephew accused of rape, invoking his family history to win over the jury in 1991.
redacktor, you're free to type anything you want, but obviously you can't cope with the freedom. That's foul, pal, and WAY beneath you.
ReplyDeleteHe is gone........if that is him, the welcome mat will be pulled and we will duct tape him in it. I tend to think it was not.
ReplyDeleteNow does Ms T repost her list of Republican sleaze balls. It was longer, but had fewer Headliners.
ReplyDeleteredaktør,
ReplyDeleteA couple of old sayings come to mind...
"If a man's dig'n himself into a hole, let him keep digg'n
and
"If a man's making a fool out of himself just get out of the way"
Fool you're digg'n one pedigreed, wang dang doodle of a hole. Good luck with the history lessons.
I don't think that was the real redactor.
ReplyDeleteEveryone knows the rules. There are not many , but any comment that would get your ass kicked if you were in a bar is probably going to get you flagged.
ReplyDeletewhit, I do not know how to test that and I blasted the comment Habu style so there is not much left except the smell.
ReplyDeletebuddy, allen, habu and rufus. you guys are all cleared to secret crypto access. I need an email address and I will give you all a key so that in my or whit's absence, you can tidy up a comment that is not wothy and offensive to the standards whit and I have set
ReplyDeleteyou can email me through my profile. You know we did have a few visits from some tough neighborhoods.
ReplyDeleteBesides which, Stalin was ALL for herr shicklegruber--witness the molotov/von rib pact--until such time as herr shicklegruber invaded his ass and planned to annex the empire.
ReplyDeleteThe Harvest Moon shines tomorrow night for those so inclined to gaze in amazement that we've actually been there..The United States of America went to the moon....many times..hurrah for the USA!
ReplyDeletethe flag is still there, in the Sea of Tranquility.
ReplyDeleteredaktor, you are welcome here, but use some common sense. fair enough?
ReplyDeleteyeh--no hate speech. not that we can't take it, but it defines deviancy down, down the slippery slope. setting an example is crucial, in all aspects of behavior.
ReplyDeleteI agree. I do not want to be a cop, but common sense is all any of us expect.
ReplyDeleteSeptember 15, 1935, Germany, a law was passed that removed a few civil rights from a few people.
ReplyDeleteTen years later, 60,000,000 were dead.
Slippery slope, deviancy defined down.
I didnt throw anything out whit
ReplyDeleteI posted it
ReplyDeleteredacktor, that's baloney, holding "truth" as a shield over your own personal emotions. you've defined "truth" down.
ReplyDeleteYeh, anybody can sit around and type insults. no challenge whatsoever.
ReplyDeletethat was all that was there. i added graphics and posted.
ReplyDeletewhit call me on my cell
ReplyDeleteyou have a point there, up to a point. but looking the other way is good for the outer circles of hell. doing it is good for the inner circles. besides, the allies woke up finally, that's a different universe than the nazis.
ReplyDeletewell, i think redactor is jewish himself, and was speaking sardonically, bitterly, rather than talking KKK. but it does strain the limits of the medium, to expeect readers to sense the distinction.
ReplyDeletebut how was 2164 supposed to know that you weren't just crapping out some bigot slur?
ReplyDeleteredaktør,
ReplyDeleteThe incandescense emanating from your posts is giving off more heat than light.
Russia before Lenin had the Tsarist Okhranka witch wasn't known for it's charity.
Lenin et. al. only intensified a horrid situation. They also killed Jews by the millions.
Your vitriol seems tremendously misplace when the froth is aimed at a small sovereign nation, Georgia, as opposed to one with a long and brutal history of the destruction of their own population, and that of others.
Try to get a grip, and whip it, whip it good.
he's just a blogger, you know. not the Lord G_d Almighty.
ReplyDeleteFox News is gonna cover breastfeeding! Quick, tune in!
ReplyDeleteIt's a matter of degree, redaktor. how else account for everyone on the thread feeling simultaneously slapped across the face?
ReplyDeletethere ya go, rufus. hate people for what they do, but not for their phenotype. or genotype, or whatever.
ReplyDeleteSince some amongst us took ethnic and racial slurring to an extreme, well beyond your reference. I thought the remark was as you said, to describe the US condition not long ago.
ReplyDeleteBut I could see where it could be seen in another light. Especially when one is light sensitive.
In the EP we have a CO. he is 2164. So far his judgement has proved him a very worthy man to follow. He provides great latitude, and vey little if any PC that I can detect, HOWEVER, there is a malleable informal social compact in this nation that is that we avoid "fighting words".
ReplyDeleteAt this point in our history we've to a very large extent agreed that using "nigger" is unacceptable.
I do not speak for the CO but the social compact,once breached, loosen the fabric we try hard to keep together and soils it so that others want no part in the enterprise..lets move on and continue throwing the peanut shells on the floor but leaving the social compact intact.
rat, you can't grow up in the 50s south and not be "light sensitive". those two words held much weight, they weren't spoken, they were spat.
ReplyDeletewords frame.
ReplyDeletebut we *are* jumpin on redactor as if he's that uncle that we remenber, who would never shut about the uhhh...n's and j's.
ReplyDeleteIn preparation for the horror that may occur in November, what word pray tell are we going to use to describle Nancy Pelosi?
ReplyDeleteFishwife seems too mild.
Socialist too accurate.
Speaker of the House..I'm not sure I could write that too many times.
I'm flummoxed.
and lurking there's Hillary
I think "Ms. Pelosi" is about the best I can do. I don't hate her. She's actually kinda cute. But the mental baggage, oh, jeezis...oh, jeezis.
ReplyDeleteredaktør,
ReplyDeleteYou say that Georgia doesn't have a lot to offer Russia.
What about showing Russia that it doesn't need to bully nations of 3-4 million who are seeking to expand freedom ,not retard it.
It would seem an example of a free nation could be a good thing to offer Russia. Allow the coastline to prosper with more casinos and resorts financed by the capitalists.
See that is what Russia fears. That Georgia will get into NATO and become a new capitalist success right on it's doorstep.
Putin is trying as hard as he can to revert to a Soviet style government.
Freedom is a good thing to offer a country.
Buddy,
ReplyDeleteShe is cute. I wish she was on our side,damn..
I don't hate her either but I think the Democrats are dangerous.
rufus; 6:51:31 PM
ReplyDeletere: Redactor, making reference to someones "Nigger, Jew Ass" isn't Truthiness; It's just hateful, and Vile.
What did I miss? Where is it?
Oh, I may have been called a Jew and/or a dog, a short time ago. I am not sure, unless redaktør specifies.
As to removing comments, I hope not. Folk should have the opportunity to live with their work, good or bad. You all have noticed - fools have short lives here.
Don't everyone speak up at once!
ReplyDeleteAllen, dinnertime, dinnertime.
ReplyDeleteExplanation: redacktor mentioned that had it not been for The Bear, Hitler would've turned "your n***** j** a**" into soap. His point was, the west wasn't doing squat about the holocaust, while USSR was. But the words hit everybody so violently that we erased them before we had fully figured out redacktor's point.
the above, is of course my *interpretation*.
ReplyDeleteOh.
ReplyDeleteUnlike some Jews, I do not think the silencing of bigots protects us from them.
If those are the opinions of redaktør, they are crude but no worse, really, than those like C4.
Sunlight is the best disinfectant.
not quite, allen. he was speaking in a "voice", as from the pov of those who were running, or watching, the holocaust. it never was his pov. in fact, dollars to donuts, redactor is himself jewish.
ReplyDeleteand, judging from the tone, probably lost relatives in it.
ReplyDeleteAllen,
ReplyDeleteI feel as you do to a degree. A man should stand and defend his words, but not at the cost of another's hard work and enterprise.
2164 did us all a huge favor when he stepped up, kept a sharp, humorous group together. Now things are humming.
If someone wants to express an historical point by using socially unacceptable language then by all means do so...on you own site.
It's a bit like allowing your dog to crap all over the neighbors lawn and then just say, well dogs do.
Allen,
ReplyDeleteTake a look at my 7:15. Misspellings and all.
redaktor any my partner whit. I owe you both an apology for being too quick on the trigger.
ReplyDeleteFirst to Redaktor. We allowed anonymous posts at the beginning and we got some kids that were posting garbage. When I saw your comments, I read them out of context. I thought someone hijacked your name and I shot first and asked questions later. I am sorry that I did that. I am not PC at all and if you and I were in a bar ball to eye ball, I could say things to you that were outrageous and you would look at my expression or hear the tone of my voice and understand the context. We lack that dimension here. We owe it to ourselves and friends to use a writing style that is clear and not open to misinterpretation. I did not read your post carefully, saw some words that I thought may be offensive to others and I deleted them. I did that as much to protect you, as someone posted that they thought it was an imposter. I am sorry for my mistake. you are welcome here. Worse yet, while I did that, I deleted my partners post.
FUBAR ruled and it was worse than when tator and habu jumped the elephant thing it was a goat. It will not happen again.
Fuck it, drinks on the house.
ReplyDeleteredaktør,
ReplyDeleteBy all means stay. Viewpoints are our oxygen and we need your oxygen as well.
Otherwise we sit around head nodding.
habu,
ReplyDeleteOf course, 2164th will do what he thinks best. He is an honorable man. I simply observe that Wretchard's occasional unannounced shutdowns were the cause of 2164th's kindly opening his sight to the lot of us. While only one man's opinion, censorship has the same effect as Wretchard's shutdowns. Consequently, I hope the EB will allow the widest latitude, no matter how uncomfortable that may be.
Gentleman, I am a chastened man by the experience. In the future I pray that experience and caution will be my overriding impulse if not my first.
ReplyDeleteno, your impulse was to get the material off the site asap. mine,too--my first thought was, jeez, i hope allen doesn't see this. it took some time to figure out redaktor's extreme irony. the whole thing is instructive--all around--people with real feelings, and real standards. misunderstandings have to happen from time to time.
ReplyDeletefor example, i think a misunderstanding closed wretchard's comments the other day. we'd gotten a bit ribald anyway, then habu said something about "aer lingus", which sounded, in the Foley/computer/sex context, like "airborne cunnilingus", but in reality was something probably no one even knew existed.
ReplyDeleteredaktor, but then Stalin could not be less culpable than western leaders, who were also "buying time".
ReplyDeleteAer Lingus' slogan:
ReplyDeleteLow Fares, Way Better
man, do them Irish have a way with words!
buddy larsen,
ReplyDeletere: i hope allen doesn't see this.
Thanks!
Thanks all!
ReplyDeleteredactor, that's really the core of all politics, as far as i'm concerned. we know where people went, in our times. it's right there in the center of consciousness. tonight on o'rielly's show there was a segment about a Columbia University mob of students today, shutting down a speech by the Minutemen. the students rushed the stage, and unfurled a banner in Arabic saying the holocaust never happened. the film was clear--the students were just as american as apple pie. Columbia U, in NYC, where the WTC used to be.
ReplyDeleteThe students were hollering "fascist" at the speaker, while they unfurled a pro-hitler banner.
ReplyDeleteAllen, thanks for the thanks! (Kumbaya)
ReplyDeletethat's what o'reilly said--to cut 'em off at the dollars. he said no alumnus should send another red cent to that school. i just wonder what those students think when they see the photos the allies took at the camps.
ReplyDeletewhoever controls the past, controls the future (said orwell [?]).
ReplyDeleteairbrushing history is so crude, we who understand it, see right through it.
but then, we aren't the targets, are we.
Now does Ms T repost her list of Republican sleaze balls. It was longer, but had fewer Headliners.
ReplyDelete1. No repost. I believe in making a point and moving on.
2. I trimmed it down quite a bit. A lot of the TV evangelists and ones we already knew about. Also, I don't thing being "charged" with something means anything.
One of the perks of office, I suppose.
ReplyDeleteStretch Pelosi
hey, thanks, redactor--sorry we jumped you so hard--error--just took a little re-reading!
ReplyDeleteTeresita, be not arrogant in your youth & beauty, for you too will stretch someday.
;-)
yeh, boy, I'd like ta "cure' her--
ReplyDeletewatch, i'm gonna regret that--
ReplyDeletehoo-wee--!
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