COLLECTIVE MADNESS


“Soft despotism is a term coined by Alexis de Tocqueville describing the state into which a country overrun by "a network of small complicated rules" might degrade. Soft despotism is different from despotism (also called 'hard despotism') in the sense that it is not obvious to the people."

Sunday, October 15, 2006

Earthquake Hits Hawaii - Doug Knocked offline - In withdrawals


The Elephant Bar is anxiously awaiting word from one of it's charter members, Doug, a resident of Hawaii. Most Hawaii news outlets seem to have no news but the Honolulu Advertiser has posted reports, however it's server may be overwhelmed at the moment.

Live Streaming video from KITV, Honolulu.


From the Honolulu Advertiser:

Electricity out islandwide

Advertiser Staff

According to Hawaiian Electric, the power outage is islandwide.

The U.S. Geological Survey web site was reporting three quakes, all centered in Kailua-Kona.

Hawaiian Electric crews will be working through the island of Oahu, trying to assess and inspect for damage.

"It's going to be a while," before electricity is restored, said spokesman Jose Dizon. "We're having to bring the island back up slowly. It's going to be a very programmed, very methodical way of bring generators back on line.



Evacuations on the Big Island

Advertiser Staff

Two other earthquakes more recent than this that were bigger. in 1975 an kalapana measured 7.2 and in 1983 the so-called ka'oiki quake centered neard volcano 6.6.

Kona Hospital has suffered major structural damage, and evaucations have been made to Yano Hall.

The Royal Kona Resort ihas structured major structural damage with guests and staff evacuated to kona gym.

The Honokaa Longterm Care Facility has suffered major damage with evacuation to Kona gym.

The Kohala Hospital has ceiling damage, and patients have been moved to the dining room.

Big Island damage significant

Advertiser Staff

The magnitude 6.5 quake was centered under Kona and shook the islands this morning, knocking out power, shattering glassware in homes and carving landslides in Hamakua and Kealakekua.

There are reports of major damage at Kona Hospital.

There was no tsunami threat, according to Big Island Civil Defense.

On the Big Island, cellualar phone service for at least two cell phones companies was sporadic, which may mean residents were unable to report damge.

The most destructive quake in Hawaii in recent years was April 26, 1973 centered in Honomu, and measuring magnitude 6.2. That quake did an estimated $60 million damage to roads, utilities, highways, and more than 400 homes and businesses.

On the Big Island, the quake caused one propane tank to fly off its moorings and roll down an embankment. Residents were evacuated.

At one point, the Mauna Lani and Fairmont Orchid hotels asked drivers to assist with evaucation of their guests in South Kahala, but Mayor Harry Kim asked the hotels to stop because there was no tsunami threat.

Updated at 9:03 a.m., Sunday, October 15, 2006

Boulders close Honoapi'ilani Highway on Maui

Advertiser Staff

MAUI — Falling boulders caused by this morning's earthquake have closed the Honoapi'ilani Highway on Highway indefinitely.

The highway is the main connecting road between west and central Maui. The boulders are very heavy, Maui officials said, and fell in the cliffs area.

Power has also been lost on the island. No other information was available at this time.


Power Outage

The University of Hawaii Manoa campus is currently experiencing power outages which are affecting the university web services and other services. These services will be brought back as quickly as possible after power is restored.

We apologize for the disruption of the services and the inconvenience, and will post any updated information on this page as the power outage progresses.

No information is available yet on when power might be restored. Updated information will be posted here as soon as they become available.

From the Maui News:

Sunday, October 15, 2006 9:18 AM

Earthquakes rattle Maui
Two large earthquakes on the Kohala coast of the Big Island rattled houses around Maui County, knocked out power across the island and caused rock slides along the Hana Highway on Sunday morning.

No major damage was reported immediately and the Coast Guard said there was no tsunami generated by the shaking.

The largest reported by the U.S. Geological Survey Earthquake Center was a magnitude 5.8 at 7:14 a.m. that was off the North Kohala coast in the Alenuihaha Channel between the Big Island and Maui.

A smaller 4.6 magnitude earthquake occurred about seven minutes earlier at 7:07 a.m. in North Kona south of the Waikoloa Village Resort.

The two temblors were among a series of at least a dozen earthquakes on the Big Island and including one on Kahoolawe, a 3.1 magnitude shaking at 7:45 a.m. A preliminary report on the Kahoolawe earthquake placed it about 4.3 miles under the island eight miles off the Kihei coast.

On the Big Island, the Coast Guard said there is a report of a hiker who had fallen from a cliff near Kealakekua Bay.

Another news source: http://www.einnews.com/hawaii/



121 comments:

  1. How do you know it wasn't a nuke test?

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  2. Doug,Doug, can you hear me now?

    Doug, I hope you and your family are ok. I've been through a 6.9 in California and it is very scary.
    Best,
    Habu

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  3. Anyone have any idea what is going on at the belmont? No post since Thursday.

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  4. 2164,
    When I came into the EB through our secret passageway I noticed a line out front with people waiting to get in here. Heck, they wouldn't even let Paris Hilton in, or Dr. Kissinger.
    I've not a clue about the BC.

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  5. Teresita,
    Where is that tsunami headed? I'm guessing one was generated?

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  6. Sharp, to be honest, it is almost impossible to intrude in hear . Most everyone puts their boots on the table and they hardly use the ash trays.

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  7. I posted this:

    said...

    "Wherefore Art Thou, Wretchard?"

    your last words were "nothing follows"

    surely you jest.

    10/15/2006 05:39:22 AM
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  8. No, he meant, there was no more text to the lead page post.

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  9. sharp, that's the little father/son shop in Cedar park, Texas. Jim Cramer has pumped them--and he's one sharp dude (no pun).

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  10. Blakeman said there was no risk of a Pacific-wide tsunami, but a possibility of significant wave activity in Hawaii. (from a local news story)

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  11. This of course will be another "Katrina" costing billions of dollars in Federal money as politicians scramble a month before the election to restore the property of everyone who lives on islands where God hasn't taken down the "Under Construction" sign yet.

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  12. The whole chain is sailing toward India at about an inch a year, IIRC. That's FAST, baby!

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  13. hawaii has 7 populated islands, the largest is 5 times the size of the other 6 combined.

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  14. The big island, according to the FOX head in the Hawaiian shirt says it sinks an inch a decade, as well.

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  15. man--that's not a home, that's a conveyor belt.

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  16. well, on my map, hawaii is three inches away from India. so, that's three years from now.

    Say more about 'sharp', wouldja?

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  17. well, marketswise, we just hit 300mm consumers, they figger 400mm in 2043. So, that's a lotta growth, just to keep up. I started thinking about J&J, when i heard the numbers. You know, consumer non-cyclical, with dividend growth momentum. An 'estate' stock, buy & forget.

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  18. When I was younger, the Atlantic and Pacific Tea Company was top dog and well positioned.

    What ever happened to A&P?

    "If it's good for General Motors, it's good for the USA."
    GM is in the dumpster.

    Thirty years is a long long time.

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  19. Thirty years ago, this was the best bet, a newbie, little track record, but the best "estate stock" imaginable.

    1972-Wal-Mart was approved and listed on the New York Stock Exchange.
    1972-Second 100 percent stock split in March: Market price: $47.50.
    1975-Third 100 percent stock split in August: Market price: $23. ...

    ... 1999-Eleventh 100 percent stock split in March: Market price: $95.

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  20. Over there, the place is lousy with "Dellionaires". No definition needed, I'm sure....

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  21. "over here" i mean. fruedian slip, since I never bought no Dell (*steam, sizzle, throw rod*).

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  22. Computers, land, horses, cattle, trucks, trailers, more land.

    That and a good cash flow machine.

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  23. Computers, really, made all the difference.
    Homage to Steve Jobs, more than Mr Gates, much much more.

    Never bought either, but Steve Jobs's product has done me well.
    I don't Ipod, either.

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  24. me neither--overloaded already, with my Patsy Cline 8 tracks

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  25. it's enough to make you fall to pieces.

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  26. FoxNews, Ollie North, on the jihad--Cheney interview, a deep backgrounder, imbedded. Right now, just started--

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  27. do you mean the BC post, or the Ollie show's conclusions, rat?

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  28. Other than it's Debka sourced ...

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  29. As for Ollie, I missed it, the conclusion though ...
    that's clear.
    War or Retreat

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  30. This must be the October Surprise. Wag the Dog and get the Christian Right back in there to plug their nose and vote "R" despite having learned of the existence of a whole gay pedo Republican mutual back-scratching subculture in DC that calls James Dobson and his ilk "nutballs".

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  31. do you think that means anything at BC?

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  32. Westhawk looks into the 2,000 Iraqis reported to be departing the country of Iraq, daily.

    Mostly Sunni, heading out to Jordon, Syria and Eygpt.

    As per whose Master Plan?

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  33. The "Nothing Follows" and then nothing has.

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  34. Some times you get what you wish for. Best be careful what you desire.

    The law of unintended consequence

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  35. Pajamas Media has changed the dynamics for a lot of the member blogs, it seems like. Oh well--onward thru the fog!

    Listen, that Gateway guy (rufus' fleet link above) hits HARD. If Hillary wins, he better get outta town.

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  36. Well, rufus, regardless of what wretchard is doing, his last post was three days ago and there are 32 comments. Three months ago there'd have been 320.
    We all define success differently.

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  37. yeh--he has youngsters, too--hard to write every day with them l'il critters around.

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  38. Well, I thought it was cool--like a train station, comings and goings, But you damn sure couldn't read 'em all.

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  39. Yeah, any way I wish him well.


    It is his conjecture, anyway, nuking Najaf. That they'll fight each other first, if we were to let them.
    No telling who is the Mullahs real primary enemy. Bush or Sistani.
    I'd bet Sistani

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  40. Did you read the Gateway commentary, rat?

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  41. I meant the Debka report on Iranian preparations, but this (below) is up above it now:

    Radical Muslims in France’s housing estates are waging an undeclared “intifada” against the police, with violent clashes injuring an average of 14 officers each day. As the interior ministry said that nearly 2,500 officers had been wounded this year, a police union declared that its members were “in a state of civil war” with Muslims in the most depressed “banlieue” estates which are heavily populated by unemployed youths of north African origin.

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  42. --from the "raging battles" hyperlink--

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  43. The nation of France, of course, has the power to end this revolt, in a matter of days.

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  44. Send in the army, and shoot the shit outta the sonzabitches. Cut off city services. Start deporting.

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  45. Read it a couple days ago, the battle rages, almost in a news blackout mode.
    The Police Union people have called it a Civil War.

    Francofada

    Funny, how time slips away.

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  46. The Mohammedans will be deporting the French?
    To where, Algeria?

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  47. BIG problem is, the perps are citizens, born in France.

    Radicalized beyond any hope of redemption, and only deportable using Hitlerian-type racial laws.

    Good God, it's almost unbelievable.

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  48. I've emailed The Cat this morning about possibly blogging on subject of growing the bio-energy economy and the geopolitical implications thereof. We'll see what'll come of it. So far no response.

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  49. Well, upside, it'll help the Brit & German right. Jeez--the German right.

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  50. And US, buddy, on a different course, but only by a few degrees.

    Unassimulated immigrant minorities.

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  51. Can they jail 10% of the population?

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  52. They have to arrest the perps first. When an arrest is attempted the high rises empty, the prisoner fought over. The Police often over powered.
    Or so say the reports, the Police cannot get 'em to the jails.

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  53. At least ours use the same alphabet, under the same God.

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  54. A breakdown of the civic order is occurring, perhaps that's why the Police say it's a Civil War.

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  55. right, rufus--the "nationalist" part, they need now, the socialist part, no.

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  56. True enough about the cultural closeness of our immigrants as opposed the Mohammedans.
    But the breakdown of authority and respect for the rule of law is similar, different as I said only by degrees.

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  57. The French know how to fight dirty, Algeria is in easy memory. Maybe there's hope. Somebody has to quietly give an order.

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  58. Since the illegal portion of the US immigrant population only makes up about 7% of the 300 million of US. Or as Robert Justich, a senior managing director at Bear Stearns Asset Management in New York said last year, about 20 million people.

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  59. Lawbreakers are lawbreakers, rufus.
    The only difference is the degree.

    Steal food, money or opportunity. It still is theft.

    Trespass is trespass
    Rape is rape, even if the man has a need.

    Excuses are just that.

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  61. No one knows for sure, rufus.
    But Bear Sterns Asset Management did a study, 18 to 20 million, a year ago, 4,000 a day since, another 1 million since the study was published, Jan '05.

    I trust Bear Sterns before the Government, to tell the truth about Government failures. And millions of illegal residents in the US is a dailure.

    Read the NYTimes piece linked to somewhere here today or at RCP.

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  62. rat's afraid if we don't take a hard line, we won't take any line at all. but of course you're right, rufus. except in a few SW urban neighborhoods, we got good law & order, that won't quit.

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  63. But accurate.
    Legally if not morally, advocate changing the Law if offended.

    Need does not create rights.
    The right to enter the US is not universal. Those that do so without permission do trespass in AZ, That's the Law. Sheriff Joe jails the migrants for consppiracy to trespass. Gets convictions, quite entertaining local news, to watch the protests.

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  64. As far as whether we're making progress--if a few years ago you'd said that commies, jihadis, and organized crime were all the same pool-of-dirty-money bunch, you'd've been laughed at. Slowly we see, the scales fall from our eyes.

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  65. The Mohammedans in France are all legal residents. Not even outlaws to start. Your "law & order" society is breaking down, buddy.
    MS-13 in Atlanta and Boston. Those boys love mobility. Over 5,000 on the ICE list of known membrs. How many are not on the list?

    And there's always more from Salvador.

    But then, California, Arizona, Colorado, Nevada all outside the US's Zone of Concern.
    Like Korea in'49

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  66. Felonies are felonies
    A rose by any other name
    smells as sweet

    Defending lawbeakers, how progressive, rufus.

    Most rapes go unreported and even those reported are often unprosecuted,
    no real harm done.

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  67. It ain't good, but we're not goners, either. The feds are on the gangsters pretty good--there'e lass open lawlessness now than in years past. Americans are watching, and the courts are turning to the right.

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  68. Like crossin the border and stealing identities. Stealin' jobs and opportunity from others.
    Real deal.

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  69. No, rufus, the MS-13 are just the organized pros, the tip of the iceberg of crime.

    The Stats are overwhelming, the hospitals bankrupt, the prisons chock full. Everyone of the illegals is lawless, rufus. Just because they are here. No excuse that they've only broken "some" laws.
    Do you and I get to pick and choose the Laws we want to obey, discarding the rest with impunity?

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  70. nobody's saying we're not in deep doo-doo, rat--the world's have-nots are online, and in motion--we the paragon nation of freedom and wealth are gonna have problems. Are we on the fix, or behind the curve, that's the question.

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  71. I'm a lawless SOB at heart, rufus.
    But that's not the point.

    I'm all for an expanded work permit system. All for immigration, legal immigration. If the Law is broken, fix it. But enforce it, as it is, until it's fixed.
    Employer sanctions and fines. I'm all for it. But it is hard to belittle the French when the same breakdown is occurring here.
    Those May Day events, Phoenix, LA and else where. It was not the "Stars and Stripes" at the head of the parade. No that was not an Bald Eagle on the green, white & red bandera leading the masses.

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  72. Naw, but the follow-up mass demos fizzled. The first ones were led by the ANSWER and La Raz apparatchiks--and when the country got pissed, the marchers stayed home next round. Lesson? There is no revolution brewing, just a buncha civil-rights replays. Sux, yes--tragic? Not yet.

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  73. Rufus.
    To answer your question about being born poor, kicking snakes etc to get here.
    Sure we'd probably all try, but as soon as we try OUTSIDE the already prescribed laws of the country we are entering we are breaking the law..that simple. Break the law , pay the man.
    If you are illegally in this country you are by definition outside the law and should be deported at minimum.

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  74. Could care less that farmers expected law breakers to do the labor. The smart ones applied and got workers with temp permits, higher cost than illegals, but the lawful farmers are not taking losses.

    The answer to bad law is not lack of enforcement, it's changing the Law.

    4,000 infiltrators a night 365 per year is not an economic blessing. If it was, we'd legalize it.

    Like pot, lot's of folk puff, but that don't make it legal, A lot of folk snort coke, funding FARC and Narco terrorists, but that don't make the snorters terrorists, does it?
    It did for a while, back in '02, but the Feds pulled those horns in.

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  75. Look, Arnold is up 10 or 20 pts over los angelides.

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  76. Different by degrees, buddy.
    That's what I said.
    Going in the same direction, but on a different trail.

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  77. And, we don't have the French problem. Did, sorta, back in the summer of 68, when the cities burned, and did a little more with Rodney King riots--but that's simmered down now--the revolution didn't take--buying homes took.

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  78. 400,000 illegal aliens last year....400,000.
    our system can not and should not tolerate that type of invasion.
    They keep subverting the legal system because they don't want to be constrained or are afraid they will be turned down ... too fuck'in bad.
    They aren't all simple people with hearts of gold either. FBI stats on illegals and crime are at Saturn 5B trajectories.
    They know the rules...I'd shoot them the minute they stepped on US soil.

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  79. Nor to me. Word is, WHouse has some internal polling that is making Rove all perky.

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  80. habu, its the dopers driving those stats--we gotta do something about the dope biz--

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  81. There's that old saying we've all heard,
    "If you can keep your head while those around you are panicking, then you don't know what the fuck is going on"

    Well,when 400,000 prople enter MY country illegally and Washington won't stop it the they don't know what's going on or don't care.
    If they don't care then they are in violation of their constitutional oaths en mass and are staring at a spontaneously erupting citizenry a la the aforementioned 1960's. Except this time it'll be the good old boys doi'in the clean up. It is the type of conditions that lead directly to civil wars. And we been there and it was hell.

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  82. Poor ole Europe--no 2nd amendment.

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  83. Push-polling, dirty-tricks, position-taking. Sorry, sorry-ass bunch.

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  84. Buddy,
    I couldn't agree more about the dope biz. I've been on that soapbox.
    Legalize marijuana, tax it, and slow that train down.
    Cocaine, decriminalize possession of a gram or less, register the offenders and also make it available through the market place, Wal Mart it. But for it you must register. That will slow that train down..of course it would be taxed...we're not gonna "win" the war so we co-opt it and change the paradigm. that wars 45 years old and it's just grown an entire generations of law-avioding-no-respect-citizens. Mostly because of marijuana laws. Archaic.

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  85. not only that, but there's an entire year's worth of USA GDP sloshing around in the dirty-money pool, some say.

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  86. Yeah, I think the Republicans will come out, discontent and all because we realise whats at stake. The Dems don't see the Islamic problem, immigration problem, etc. I think they'll be lemmings to the cliffs after another loss..no House,no Senate, no President..and no agenda for '08 with only Hillary having to confront two very wise ,smart pols..the G-men.

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  87. You can bet they'll throw the war--they need it to be a fiasco, a loss, a defeat, a giant GOP fuck-up. The jihad is no problem, they'll just not "cover" the "events". when oil goes to 200, they'll nuke somebody.

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  88. Buddy,
    I've seen estimates in well regarded publication, Golf Digest, Cabelas Master Winter Catalog, that the underground economy is larger than our GDP.
    Oh yeah,Penthouse too.

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  89. I get my info from obscure websites with shitloads of flashing pop-ups and more viruses than Calamity jane.

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  90. I want Kerry to be next prez. just keeping up with all the little surgical facial improvements would be a gas.

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  91. he's got new teeth now. smile looks more like a Rhesus monkey vagina, than the old alligator smirk.

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  92. Yeah on some of those sites you could almost catch a diease .. but ya probably wouldn't care.

    Ah to be 23 again.

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  93. Well, that's a positive attitude, for sure!

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  94. yep--the trendy retailers, just keep on surprising to the upside.

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  95. You could say, that cash has velocity--

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  96. Well I figure no matter how bad it gets, it'll reach Montana later, much later. Although I do know for a fact that the Soviets during the Cold War had caches all over Montana..guns,plastique,radios.

    I here Sitka ,Alaska is pretty nice.

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  97. well, better plant me bones--hour grows late--a Monday coming--nite all--

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  98. Jeez, habu, the Japanese grabbed it right off the bat, last time around.

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  99. Rufus,
    they grown a lot of wheat in montana..can that be used as an alternate fuel?

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  100. Get right in the middle--Kansas, somewhere.

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  101. It can if you burn it in a horse, or a strong, plow-pulling wife.

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  102. The old South, away from the cities, still has a lot of rebel blood in it, for sure.

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  103. Nite fall for me also gentlemen..as always a pleasure spend'n time at the EB with ya
    Best to all

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  104. A most touching ewlogy. Old Don will be terribly missed.

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  105. Bobal, just for grins, look at the other side, willya?

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