COLLECTIVE MADNESS


“Soft despotism is a term coined by Alexis de Tocqueville describing the state into which a country overrun by "a network of small complicated rules" might degrade. Soft despotism is different from despotism (also called 'hard despotism') in the sense that it is not obvious to the people."

Sunday, October 01, 2006

Rifts Emerge in Iraq Government

The Australian Daily Telegraph

Provides a clarification on what is happening in Iraq.
SUNNI and Shiite leaders in Iraq clashed publicly overnight over a US allegation that a bodyguard for a top Sunni politician may have plotted an al-Qaeda suicide attack on the vast Green Zone government compound.
Rifts between parties in the four-month-old unity government broke the surface as data indicated sectarian violence may have claimed a record number of victims last month, and a new mass kidnap saw 26 meat factory workers seized by gunmen in Baghdad.

Iraq's national security adviser said security forces were closing in on the al-Qaeda leader in Iraq who took over from the late Abu Musab al-Zarqawi in June. But the US ambassador said the main threat to Iraq was now from general sectarian violence.

As Baghdad returned to nervous normality after a 24-hour curfew imposed to avert the suicide bomb threat, a leading parliamentary supporter of Shiite cleric Moqtada al-Sadr accused the government of being "infiltrated by terrorists".

He was responding to the arrest on Friday of a bodyguard to Adnan al-Dulaimi, leader of the Sunni Accordance Front bloc.

The US military said the man may have been plotting a major al-Qaeda suicide attack on the parliament and government complex.

Bahaa al-Araji, prominent in the Shiite Alliance bloc of which Sadr is part, demanded that Alliance Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki reshuffle his cabinet to improve security. He hinted that Shiite leaders no longer trusted Sunni Deputy Prime Minister Salam al-Zobaie, who is in charge of security issues.

That drew a sharp response from allies of Mr Dulaimi.

"All this talk about car bombs and so on in Adnan Dulaimi's house is fabricated," the Accordance Front's Hussein al-Falluji said.

"It seems there's some kind of political pressure from some people in the Alliance and the timing of this issue was calculated in advance to affect his standing," he said.

107 comments:

  1. Putin fury at Georgia 'terrorism'

    Putin says the arrests are an "act of state terror with hostage-taking"
    Russian President Vladimir Putin has said Georgia's arrest of four Russian army officers for spying was "an act of state terrorism with hostage-taking".

    He was speaking after a meeting of his security council to discuss the crisis.

    He said Georgia was trying to provoke Moscow with the help of "foreign sponsors" and compared its leadership to that of Soviet leader Josef Stalin.

    Correspondents say it is Russia's worst crisis in relations with its neighbour in more than a decade.

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  2. I am struck with the similarity of circumstances of the Russia vs Georgia incident with the Israel vs Hezbollah cross border raids. It seems certain that the Russians will get their “spies” back through their usual tactics of heavy handed diplomacy and just a tinge of brutality. I don’t think there is a Russian equivalent to “plausible deniability” and “kiting”.

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  4. It has become apparent that an all volunteer Army can not handle the dynamics in play for the forseeable future. Draft now.

    The Times They Are A-Changin'

    Come gather 'round people wherever you roam
    And admit that the waters around you have grown
    And accept it that soon you'll be drenched to the bone
    If your time to you is worth savin'
    Then you better start swimmin' or you'll sink like a stone,
    For the times, they are a chang - in'

    Come writers and critics who prophecies with your pen
    And keep your eyes wide the chance won't come again
    And don't speak too soon for the wheel's still in spin
    And there's no tellin' who that it's namin'
    For the loser now will be later to win
    For the times they are a-changin'

    Come mothers and fathers throughout the land
    And don't criticize what you don't understand
    Your sons and your daughters are beyond your command
    Your old road is rapidly agin'
    Please get out of the new one if you can't lend a hand
    For the times they are a-changin'

    Come senators, congressmen please heed the call
    Don't stand in the doorway, don't block up the hall
    For he that gets hurt will be he who has stalled
    There's a battle outside and it's ragin'
    It'll soon shake your windows and rattle your walls
    For the times they are a-changin'

    The line it is drawn the curse it is cast
    The slow one now will later be fast
    As the present now will later be past
    The order is rapidly fadin'
    And the first one now will later be last
    For the times they are a-changin'


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  6. Sung to the melody of Sonny and Cher's 'I got you babe'

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  7. Mouse, I think Putin wants to set up a boundary. No more Nato membership countries against Russian borders. I do not know if you had a chance to look at the previous posts on new Russian military programs. It is impressive for a country that was broke a few years ago. Putin wants to establish a new Russian place at the table and Georgia may be the first setting.

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  8. If the Bush administration began a general draft right now it would be a near ambiguous declaration of war. If a newly elected Democratic Congress did the same it would be fulfilling what they have argued as scarcity of troops to prosecute current and future conflicts, which it seems, is plausible.

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  9. Kiss me goodbye and write me while I'm gone goodbye my sweetheart hello Iraq now
    America has heard the bugle call and you know it involves us one and all
    I don't suppose that war will ever end there's fighting that will break us up again
    Goodbye my darling hello Iraq, a block to take a battle to be won
    Kiss me goodbye and write me while I'm gone goodbye my sweetheart hello Iraq-nam
    A ship is waiting for us at the dock America has trouble to be stopped
    We must stop Islamics in that land
    Or freedom will start slipping through our hands
    Goodbye my darling...

    I hope and pray someday the world will learn
    That fires we don't put out will bigger burn
    We must save freedom now at any cost or someday our own freedom will be lost
    Kiss me goodbye and write me while I'm gone. Goodbye my sweetheart, Hello Iraq-nam

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  10. By the way mouse. I was looking at your site. You have some interesting posts. Let me know if you want to put anything up here. We accept guest hosts. Whit and Tiger are on deck. Just let me or Whit know.

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  11. 2164th
    I used to lurk at a Russian site that shamelessly extolled the tremendous technical innovations of the Russian military. Seeing some of their earlier handiwork, I have little doubt of their competence. The fact is, they have come closer to perfecting anti-ballistic missile defense long before the US published any success. As far as the US’s ability to deploy steerable mid course weapon systems, it is either a secret or an area where we lag. Who’s to know?

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  12. 2164th,
    Thanks, you are doing a good job of keeping the dialog going. Found your blogs interesting and scratch my head at anyone's willingness to put so much hard work for so little payoff;-) Keep it up and if I can conjur anything interesting, I will gladly forward.

    Mouse

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  13. We'll be in Iraq as long as we've been in Korea and Europe...think we can do that with a volunteer army ...nuts.

    Yes, 'n' how many times can a man turn his head,
    Pretending he just doesn't see?
    The answer, my friend, is blowin' in the wind,
    The answer is blowin' in the wind.

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  14. From BC
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    "Also, these days you can't pick and choose your reporters (that would be called censorship in any case). You can't put some in and not others. And some "reporters" may in fact be operatives for the otherside, for the insurgents. So, you keep the number down."
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    The reason they are picking and choosing is that
    ...You can't pick and choose.
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    That place drives me nuts:
    I need a 12 step exit plan!
    All "brains" no sense!

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  15. Years ago I worked for Raytheon Service Company out of Spencer Labs in Mass. We analyzed alot of Soviet missile and communications systems. They have excellent science and engineering. They always choose some very innovative and least expensive applications, because of some of the weakness in their manufacturing. A lot of their workmanship is apallling. I would never underestimate them, but I would not think them ten feet tall either.

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  16. NASA TV coverage of the return of the astronauts via Khazakstan portrays the Flavor of the Old New Russia.
    Perfectly

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  17. Doug Wretchard, has jumped off the line with several posts such as the recent email letter and happenings in Iraq. He is trying to get things out fast while his forte is a more leisurely study.

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  18. Didn't we do a Vandenberg/Alaska Shot for the first "operational test?"
    What kind of trajectories would those 2 be flying?

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  19. I'm glad he's putting it out:
    My quote is a poster's,
    THEY drive me nuts!

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  20. Mouse and I only drive each other Nuts now and then.

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  21. I think I read that the Michael Yon letter may be legit, but better to be sure or we are no better than Dan Rather.

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  22. It's been 4 days,
    Wouldn't we have heard from Yon if someone is impersonating him about such serious matters?

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  23. Can't be the SAME as Rather if it is portrayed as SPECULATION.
    ...but it might not be prudent, I suppose.
    We'll see.

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  24. If the Bush administration began a general draft right now it would be a near ambiguous declaration of war.

    "near ambiguous?" does not compute.

    If it's unambiguous so what. The wheels in the military machine are full of sand and are rapidly grinding to ineffectiveness. Potential and real enemies are attuned to our vulnerabilities and will exploit them to there fullest. We don't have the luxury of time any longer, to have another 100,000 volunteers step forward. That would take 5-10 years.

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  25. What general was the one who said "nuts!"?

    The Russians biggest technical failing in the past 20 years was to fallback in semi-conductor design and production... looks like that cat is out of the bag. Most 'obsolete' semi conductor designs are probably available as metal mask masters on the black market. When some falafel shop owner can sucessfully remotely operate effective bombs I'd say that even the x-Soviets would have little holding them back but oil monies for developing their interests.

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  26. Asher Abrams said...
    I have just received confirmation by e-mail from Michael Yon's office that this message is indeed authentic. Yon will be issuing a statement soon.

    10/01/2006 02:24:25 PM

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  27. I fully concur Habu. Never thought of the draft as a bad thing considering our stretched resources across such broad needs. I was opining that the Bush administration would not do it, probably for overt political purposes at this time. I was always leery of the lack of overwhelming force doctrine but have tried to go along with the logic as a means of understanding it. To date, I haven’t come close.

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  28. Death from afar, AM, no occupation or stability missions, Iraq is a one off. A one off that is going into it's fourth year. As allen says, with no end in sight. But a one off that will not be repeated, ever.
    Because we cannot.
    Will not.
    Not anywhere, ever again.

    That's the Transformation Policy.
    Mr Rumsfeld's Plan, allows US to cut the budget, and get the same or better bang. So they say.
    Our friends at Westhawk talk about Mr Rumsfeld's gamble coming due.

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  29. Don't want to correct you in front of the MENSA Society, Mouse, so will use the Bar of last resort:
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    "The tension between Musharraf and Karzai seemed palatable"
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    Yeah, like they might eat each other, it was palpable, I tell you!

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  30. Rufus re: polling..my answer today is the same as yesterdays answer..you're an Iraqi and you're being polled...

    There's a knock at the door. You answer it with some trepidation as your country has been embroiled in a war for four years, after suffering under a tyrant for thirty.
    A man at the door says he is taking a poll. Taking a poll? Who is he? Who sent him? How shall I anwer? You have a new form of government but daily killings and bombings keep things on edge.

    Ok the poll looks great but under the current circumstances I'm not sure how accurate any poll in Iraq would be at this point in time. Hell even in this country we can't trust pollsters who have learned methodologies of skewing results by simply manipulating the verbage and syntax.
    My hope is that it is true, but that hope is vapor

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  31. Sorry Whit,
    You done been re-activated, whether you were ever active or not!
    Uncle Sam Needs YOU!

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  32. You woke up in the wrong room, Ruf.

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  33. This place is pure, actual, TORTURE.

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  34. The Draft and First Strike, preemptive nukes are habu's hot buttons, his passions. Those mirages that are just beyond grasp, until, like Carlos, he sprouts wings and devours them, himeslf.

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  35. No conscription. Ok..then how will we maintain our committments around the world?
    Do you propose we just use our current army to total exhaustion?

    It may not be on your agenda but you can bet that going forward it will make the agenda and become a reality ....unless we simply repudiate our role as world leader and become satisfied with being a Canada or France and turning over the driving to China and a resurgent Russia, we are going to be compelled by thier moves to conscript.
    To bet we can handle the future the way we are going now is like holding aces and eights.

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  36. Whit,
    Wasn't that a bit DISPROPORTIONATE???

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  37. I went off topic on the first post because I thought I may as well not pay attention to myself and join the rest of the bar. Hell if i want to get attention, I have to go over to BC and attack someone. This is a rough crowd that hangs over here.

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  38. Take your head outta your ass Tarnass-man!

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  39. CAlled us the DUI blog. i'll give him a DUI.

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  40. Actually, I was looking for whit to put something up, but he was doing something else today.

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  41. You do not have to convince me, habu. The only professional politician that has called for a draft is Charlie Rengle of NY.

    The Policy is to pull back, my friend. We are leave Korea and Germany, a Unit was returning to KS, from Germany as we drove through. They had the signs & ribbons out, a real "home coming".
    We've already left Panama and Subic Bay. Okinawa is scaling back.
    We're out of Somalia and Saudi Arabia.
    Senator Allen promises no permanent bases in Iraq.

    So look into the crystal ball of budgets and plans, you'll see the future course, plain as day. It just dooes not chart to the destination we think best.

    The choice is, and has been War or Retreat. We are in retreat across the Globe, and hunkered down in Iraq, with Force Protection the primary mission. Mr Allen was correct, articulating Policy, in that debate with Mr Webb.

    Check out this piece, by David Warren, it closes:

    Has this become a quagmire, like Vietnam? Yes, in one important sense. The American military in South Vietnam was hamstrung because, except for desultory bombing, they could not take the battle to the enemy in the North. Brave and capable soldiers were stuck in defensive configurations, while politicians in Washington micromanaged them, with a view to the polls and the CBS Evening News.

    Iraq is happily free of rainforest, but not of infiltration. There is an internal enemy, centred in the Sunni Triangle, but it, too, depends on foreign money and materiel. The further menace of a Shia underground, making reprisals against the Sunnis but also undermining the legitimate Iraqi government, has been added over time. Syria and Iran meddle on their own accounts, and act as conduits for the international jihadi networks. If we can't take the war to them, we can't win it.

    The degeneration of the trial of Saddam Hussein into a farce symbolizes what has gone wrong. Here is a man who should have been shot within a fortnight of capture, after a summary trial, if any. He and his surviving supporters should never have been allowed the luxury of a rallying point.

    By extension, persistent problems such as Fallujah needed definitive resolutions. We did not defeat Nazi Germany by trying to win the cooperation of local officials, or giving warnings to civilians that alert the enemy among them to flee or hide. We kept pounding till we saw the white flags, then interred whom we pleased.

    War is rough work, incompatible with the postmodern, "gliberal" mindset, that permits fighting only if there will be no casualties, and assumes all offensive warfare is morally tainted. Mr Rumsfeld has moulded a fine offensive army, but for diplomatic and political, rather than military reasons, it is being used only on defence. "

    @ RCP "Armies are Offensive"
    We are building the Military for the War we planning to fight, which is none at all.
    Not my call, but reality.

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  42. Balderdash, rufus.

    That could be done with much much less exposure. Had been for years.
    Could have continued for years.
    No, Mr Bush CARED about Saddam, as much, if not more than the oil.

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  43. " The only professional politician that has called for a draft is Charlie Rengle of NY"
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    And HE's threatened to quit if the Dems don't win!

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  44. "Mr Allen was correct, articulating Policy, in that debate with Mr Webb."
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    And Rat knocked him for telling it like it is!

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  45. Mr. Warren reads like a 'Ratdoug on literary steroids.

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  46. Yes thanks DR, I was on a "adult beverage run"

    Rufus, Dr really answered it but just for reinforcement, you can pick up a world map and throw a dart at it and come up with either an exisiting or future problem for the US (if we want to remain a superpower and exercise our freedoms).
    But check this out. Even if you don't read the small print just read the Section Headings and tell me things are rosy.

    Global Threats to USA

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  47. I'm telling the TarnASSman about you, Rufus.
    The whole MENSA club will see it.

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  48. Because it is a STUPID Policy, doug, that is why I "knocked" him, for being STUPID.
    Mr Bush NEVER said that.

    Charlie, he's old now, he either gets the cat bird seat or is goin' home.

    I am happy Saddam is out of power, sad he is still alive. But the 325,000 men with weapons, on the Federal Iraqi payroll can secure the oil. The USAF will intimidate the Iranians, with 140,000 US troops in Iraq or 40,000.

    We'd be better off with 40,000 as the Goal, by a date to be determined by conditions, of Nov '07.

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  49. Increase the number of US troops embedded with the ISF to about 20,000, leave the rest to garrison an airbase and provide support to the ISF and the embedded US troops.

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  50. Doug said...
    “Men will not believe what does not fit in with their plans or suit their prearrangements.
    The flaw in all military intelligence, whether twenty or fifty or one
    hundred percent accurate, is that it is no better than the judgement of its interpreters,
    and this judgement is the product of a mass of individual, social, and political biases,
    pre-judgements and wishful thinking; in short, it is human and therefore fallible.”
    Barbara Tuchman
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    And "we" don'teven want to secure our borders!
    Much less kill or humiliate
    "enemy combatants."
    Habeass CorpsesAsses
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    Twice, think I'll quit while I'm behind.

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  51. So what did Allen say that we aren't doin?
    (sincere question, I didn't watch it)

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  52. He said that there would be no permanent US basing in Iraq.
    Said we were withdrawing to mega- bases to enhance Force Protection.
    That was the primary mission, force protection.
    To paraphrase.
    Lost in the talking points he'd been briefed on, seemed to me.
    The transcript is some where, out there, beneath the velvet sky.

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  53. Huntress said...
    The veracity of the email has been verified. Mike did post his comments regarding LtC Barry Johnson on Pajamas Media the other day, as did I.

    I have reprinted an email I sent to LtC Johnson last month on my blog.

    LtC.Johnson is doing a major diservice to our troops, their families, and the Military.

    I warned LTC.Johnson, I would go viral with this and I advised I would make many Generals, Lt.Cols, and others in my close circle of influence aware of what was going on. Incompetance leading to censorship is untenable. Worse, when asked on a radio show, LtCol Barry Johnson LIED about his reasons for NOT granting an embed to Mike.

    Lt.Col Barry Johnson needs to be relieved of CPIC leadership and not replaced by some one who will merely follow his lead.

    Barry Johnson was at the heart of the Baghdad Press Club hubris surrounding the payment to media to plant positive stories. While the DOD denied any knowledge of this - a month ago they paid the Lincoln Group $20 million in taxpayers money to plant positive stories in the media.

    And yet, Lt.Barry Johnson denies Mike Yon an embed, based on a personal vendetta..and then lies to the American people as to his reason!

    10/01/2006 03:22:43 PM

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  54. Thanks, 'Rat.
    Like I said tho, he does know his NASCAR.

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  55. MR. WEBB: I think, I think we have dramatically different views on how to approach this, because what I’m saying is what we need now a clear statement—if he agrees with this, then, then fine—we need a clear statement from this administration that we have no desire for a long-term presence in Iraq. And we need to convene an international conference with the countries in, in tangential and the countries that have cultural and historic ties to Iraq in order to have them move forward with us and, and assume some responsibility for the future of Iraq. The United States can’t do this.

    MR. RUSSERT: Would you—wait, wait.

    SEN. ALLEN: We have absolutely no interest—I have no interest and I—for us to be permanently in Iraq.

    MR. RUSSERT: So, no permanent basis.

    SEN. ALLEN: I want our...

    MR. WEBB: Then would you vote against...

    SEN. ALLEN: I—of—I, I have voted...

    MR. WEBB: ...would you vote against the appropriations for these four large bases in the remote areas of Iraq?

    SEN. ALLEN: Look, we have voted three...

    MR. WEBB: This came up again, this came up again this weekend.

    SEN. ALLEN: It sure did. It sure did. I’m glad you noticed that this time.

    MR. WEBB: Mm-hmm.

    SEN. ALLEN: The, the point of the matter is, is I have no interest and the United States has no interest to be permanently in Iraq. I want our troops home the second possible.

    MR. RUSSERT: So, no permanent bases.

    SEN. ALLEN: Of course no permanent U.S. bases. But the four bases that my opponent will talk about all the time, that we’re building these bases, is a consolidation. It’s for force protection and so have...

    MR. WEBB: And so how long are we going to be in these, in these bases?

    SEN. ALLEN: Well, no longer than necessary. The Iraqis...

    MR. WEBB: If your—if, if, if our conventional mission is done in the cities of Iraq, we should be getting our conventional forces out of Iraq.

    SEN. ALLEN: Sure, of course. And you...

    MR. WEBB: Not into the remote areas of Iraq.

    SEN. ALLEN: Well, no, there—look, you cannot...

    MR. RUSSERT: Let me...

    SEN. ALLEN: Jim, you know this, it’s important for force protection. It’s important to have the military...

    MR. WEBB: There is no—as long as the United States forces...

    SEN. ALLEN: ...options, whether it’s ground forces or air forces.

    MR. WEBB: ...conventional forces are in Iraq there will not be peace in the Middle East.

    SEN. ALLEN: No, that’s not the...

    MR. WEBB: That is the point. That is different from Kuwait, that is different from Qatar.

    MR. RUSSERT: All right. Let, let, let me turn...

    SEN. ALLEN: No, no, no, no, no. Let’s get on these bases. The bases are to protect our forces. They’re hardened, they’re buffered so they can’t be hit by, by terrorist attacks. They are being shared, they are being...

    MR. WEBB: I think George has a fundamental misunderstanding of how the military is, is used...

    SEN. ALLEN: ...they, they are being shared—no, you don’t under...

    MR. WEBB: ...if he believes that you can—if that—you’re still going to be able to assist in these city areas like Ramadi from remote bases somewhere. That’s just not true. That’s just not true.

    MR. RUSSERT: All right. Let me...

    SEN. ALLEN: Hold it, whoa, whoa, whoa. Tim, you’re saying...

    MR. RUSSERT: No, no, no, we, we have a...

    SEN. ALLEN: ...you’re saying, you’re saying that we ought to move...

    MR. RUSSERT: ...we obviously have a disagreement on this...

    SEN. ALLEN: ...all these folks out of the area and, and that’s the way to handle it by moving them to Kuwait and elsewhere.

    MR. RUSSERT: All right.

    SEN. ALLEN: The point of the matter is, is the Iraqis will ultimately take over these bases.

    MR. WEBB: Then we do not need bases—we do not need American bases in Iraq.

    That’s the point.

    MR. RUSSERT: All right. Let me, let me move...

    SEN. ALLEN: We need to protect our forces.

    MR. WEBB: Iraqis can build their own bases. You’re not protecting forces if you’re sitting in one area.

    MR. RUSSERT: This is obviously an area of disagreement. But we have to move on. We, we have a limited amount of...

    MR. WEBB: So let, let the record show that we are not totally aligned on this issue.

    MR. RUSSERT: All right. Then let me move on ..."

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  56. MR. WEBB: ...conventional forces are in Iraq there will not be peace in the Middle East...

    My question to Mr. Webb would be, just when has there been peace in the Middle East? Not in his lifetime or his father's or his grandfather's ad naseum...

    Mr. Webb's position of not having a US presence in Iraq, even in the sandpits and wadi's of Iraq is a dreamweaver position.

    Many combat soliers go through this epiphany that by asserting that war is hell, which is absolutely true, that somehow war will cease, because they have seen the sights,sounds, and smells of shreaded bodies and smoldering flesh.
    Jim ,my boy, war is not going to stop ..ever..until man is gone from this Earth. And then the species that remain will war in their way. There's not going to be a human Gaia Hypothesis coming to our rescue to harmonize us.

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  57. You are the first to even write of Mr Webb's prescription, habu.

    He, though, is not on the Democrat's nor Republican's short list of Presidental prospects.
    Mr Allen is.

    I agree that Mr Webb is pipe dreamin', but it has become an "all or nothing" debate, when niether of those options suit the immediate need.

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  58. Then I would say to Mr. Webb that being a gadfly is perhaps gratifying, particularly if you can get your adversary to squirm on national TV, but it does little to define the future...cause ya know we just can't see the future, only a limn of it.

    I would also say of all debates on wars that it is similar to trying to find virtue in a presidential campaign.

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  59. Had it not been for Michael Yon- a writer who possesses a better understanding of military ops than most credentialed journalists on the big media payrolls, who can and does provide full context to the events he witnesses, who continues to be interviewed by major print, radio, tv and on-line media as the GOLD standard for ALL coverage in both Iraq and Afghanistan, and who garners the respect of generals, a long list of Lt.Col's, grunts, Marines, airmen, seamen, special forces, Hollywood celebs, and even "administration hating, anti military, lets cut and run" Democrats - this war would have been completely lost on the homefront in 2005 thanks to a biased agenda filled media, thus handing over a huge victory to jihadists around the world; and not even your plan to pay for good news to be planted in the media could have salvaged that scenario.

    People want the whole picture - something besides combat- which is exactly what Michael Yon provided in his evocative, insightful, informative, and honest dispatches. Yet you deny him an embed for personal reasons and then mislead the public as to why you took this ludicrous action...

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  60. To build a Stryker Brigade takes, as I recall, four years.
    To decide we needed a few additional and get them funded would take at least a year.
    Plus four gives US five years until an expanded Force could take the field.
    Golly & Wow!
    We move on with the Military we've got. The Generals are fighting for the status que, in the face of further down sizing, central to Mr Bush's policy of Transformation.

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  61. I have come to Harmoize you Habeeb:
    Submit, and set yoself Free!

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  62. Ta think we build 100k planes and 100k boats in 4 years half a century ago!

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  63. Well, a whole bunch, anyhoo.

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  64. doug, I believe that lurking at BC were interns and aides. A quick read would, at a glance, assess the "mood" of the Base.
    LTC Kurilla and "Catch & Release" are sore points to the Army, better believe it.

    For Catch & Release to achieve Abracadbra's talking points shows how that tactic has been percieved in Iraq, by the Army. As Mr Yon's description of the "Head man" not believing the US was not responsible for the policy so aptly described.
    It is, of course, the messenger's fault.
    If the individual cannot be discriminated against, kill the Program.
    That the US Public does not really need to know, will be the justification.

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  65. Webb said that as the cities were secured, instead of falling back to bases in Iraq, the troops would go to Qutar and Kuwait and back to their "home" bases.

    Mr Allen said pull back to the four major bases for Force Protection.

    Neither are satifactory long term solutions, That is the only point.

    If the end of the tunnel is not within a short walk, in a year, the "War" will kill the Repubs, in '08. Mr Specter's and Mr Shays, if he survives reelection, position will gain ascendence, post Nov '06.

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  66. That the future does not unfold in a ‘linear’ fashion according to current trends and
    conditions. The actual path to the future will be fundamentally ‘non-linear’

    So the Transformationist believe by removing the human from a dominant position in the equation to a role of PAC-MAN Master we will be better able to repond to threats in the future.
    Well lets see. If we had little robots all over the mountains of Afghanistan couldn't some stone age Islamist just roll a rock down on it, or will it have the optional two million dollar "jump out of the way" mechanism?
    Now if we're talk'n billions of little teenie tiny nano-soldiers creep'n into every hole to explode on an enemy then I might get on board..maybe I'll give DARPA or Popular Science a call.

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  67. Stay the Course or get the Democrats.
    That's the deal

    Some or Nothing, all defense or slow retreat. No offense, we've already passed that phase line.

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  68. Bad example Habu..if the human is the PAC-MAN MASTER then he is a more important factor in the equastion than before.

    Plus the stone age guy can roll a rock down on a human too...
    where's my tin foil hat?

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  69. Well, I promised myself that today, Oct 1 I would get back in the gym ..so I gotta get it now or fade away..
    best to all

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  70. Michael Yon : (At PJM)
    The military makes it very difficult for reporters in Iraq. I know three -- including me -- who recently tried to embed in Iraq and were denied. In 2005, when I wrote a single sentence the PAO did not like, I needed a guard to eat in the dining facility in Mosul. The PAO stole some of my photos and released them to the world, then taunted me to "sue them" when I asked for compensation. Brigadier General Vincent Brooks knows the story well. A journalist might interview him and ask why he refused to obey the laws of the United States while he was Chief of Public Affairs. Our combat troops are great -- and our lower level PAO people usually are, too. But the behavior of the upper levels of the Public Affairs Office often border on thuggery. They paid for positive news to be printed -- and got caught -- all while alienating the few who will go into combat day in and day out and give fair coverage. The poor coverage is not all the fault of the media. The PAO is a huge obstacle to winning this war. The Combined Press Information Center (CPIC) in Baghdad is led by a man named LTC Barry Johnson. Johnson is entirely responsible for much of the bad news coming from Iraq. He is incompetent and not to be trusted with getting the truth out to American citizens. Only nine reporters in Iraq? If Barry Johnson were fired, there would be at least 12, including me, but he will not allow me to embed and has offered no truthful explanation for his actions. If we lose this war, the loss will be due at least in some part to people like LTC Barry Johnson who blows off fair media while grabbing his ankles for the big media who can destroy him...the very media that continues to be blamed for all the bad news.

    Sep 23, 2006 08:31 AM

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  71. Doug,
    The looks were palatable. You should have seen the hungry looks on their faces. Probably noted that there was no goat on the WH menu. Jeesh.

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  72. Mouse:
    Totten swears Camel tastes just like Beef!
    Interesting mp3 at the top of PJM with him and Helen and Glenn.

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  73. o/t but I can't possibly catch up on a hundred comments at this late hour--just want to notify that the Brazil election today was surprising, an unexpected, unforecast, unpolled show of conservative sentiment. Here's a report (ht instapundit), plus a snip (below):

    Brazilian President Luiz Inacio Lula da Silva, whose campaign and party have been engulfed by corruption scandals for more than a year, appeared headed for an electoral victory Sunday.

    As early election results came in Sunday night, it was unclear whether he would avoid a runoff vote Oct. 29 with his closest challenger. Brazilian law orders a runoff if no candidate wins more than 50 percent of the vote.

    The 60-year-old former trade union leader had always led public opinion polls, but had seen his lead narrow as a new scandal involving his campaign erupted two weeks before election day. He won 49.6 percent of the vote Sunday, with 78.6 percent of polling places counted.

    His closest challenger, Geraldo Alckmin, a conservative former governor of the country's biggest state, Sao Paulo, won 40.7 percent of the vote. Sen. Heloisa Helena Lima de Moraes Carvalho, a leftist former ally of the president, came in third with 6.7 percent of the vote.

    "What is surprising for me is the amount of votes Alckmin is getting," said political analyst Luiz Pedone. "He's showing surprising strength."


    An omen, maybe?

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  74. That whole exchange regarding force protection and consolidation doesn’t really say anything to me. If we were creating fortified garrisons for the purpose of pulling back to a defensible boundary, how would it be sold to the Iraqi public and how would it also be sold to the American public? If the Iraqi democratic experience were to be successful, then the US would draw down its forces. If it were a matter of getting’ the F out, a similar draw down would be in order. I think it is fair to say that the democracy experiment has run its course and we see the ascendancy of an Islamic republic, a bloody civil war, or the birth of a multi-headed hydra, though it seems that all three exigencies exist simultaneously.

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  75. Michael Yon :
    The military is half the problem when it comes to bad media. LTC Barry Johnson is boss of the Combined Press Information Center in Baghdad. Johnson regularly denies embeds for no apparent reason even while combat commanders extend invitations.
    This is the type of coverage that LTC Barry Johnson turns down. Johnson would not permit Walt Gaya, who earned two Purple Hearts in combat in 2005, to embed with US Forces. So Walt paid his own way to Iraq:
    http://www.michaelyon-online.com/wp/omars-side-of-the-wall.htm

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  76. Doug said...
    Totten's interview at PJM makes it clear why one just about has to be embeded these days or paid for by Time, etc:
    The costs for Security alone are staggering.
    Says the North is safer, hope Walt stays up there.

    10/01/2006 06:41:44 PM

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  77. A friend of mines son is an M1A1 driver and is none to plussed with what is going on. My friend tells me that some M1A1s have been blown up and their crew killed. I tried verifying this on the web and have found no such references… I wonder if it were true that the myth of invulnerability would be spread just to deny the Jihadi’s their due and to dissuade them further attacks. It is plausible, we were led to believe that the Iranians were importing new methods and ordinance in order to breach armor and we have seen cases where armor penetrating IED’s were disabled by EOD.

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  78. Just like beef Doug, but a tad stringy and greasy I'm sure.

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  79. The camel has a single hump; The dromedary, two; Or else the other way around. I'm never sure. Are you?

    (ogden nash)

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  80. I had an argument w/my son about the Abrahms:
    I was "sure" we had lost some early on to RPGs in sensitive spots.
    He says no.
    Some were disabled, at least, right?

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  81. Ms T's finest post yet:
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    Teresita said...
    sparks fly

    It looks like the Sunnis had a plan afoot to blast a hole in the Green Zone wall and slaughter everything living on the other side.

    Have no fear, I can assure you that Bush's threat of withholding the distribution of free soccer balls by the US Army from youths throughout the Sunni Triangle if their fathers ever breach the wall and behead all the Westerners in the Green Zone is a sufficient deterrent from that every happening.

    10/01/2006 05:37:31 PM
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    Doug said...
    Ms T,
    But wouldn't that constitute Torture by Humiliation tm?

    10/01/2006 07:00:30 PM

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  82. I am familiar with Abrams being disabled but hadn't heard of crew casualties. I was thinking censorship but don't know.

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  83. RPG vs Abrams

    The side protection of the M1 turret is also inadequate. On 7 April 2004 an anti-tank RPG penetrated the side of the turret resulting in serious wounds to two crew members. The top of the tank is equally vulnerable, and even the glacis was easily defeated by anti-tank weapons. For example, on April 10, 2004 a tank was hit on the right side of the glacis by an RPG fired from an overpass and destroyed. Additional measures designed to increase protection for the Abrams tank have showed mixed results. Halon firefighting gear has proven largely ineffective. Practically all secondary fires resulting from enemy fire, engine breakdown or overheating destroyed the tank completely. For example, the 7 April attack noted above ignited the tanker’s personal effects attached to the outside of the turret, and since the crew had abandoned the vehicle, the fire was left unchecked, while on 10 April, fuel leaked out of a damaged fuel tank and ignited. Externally stored items, including on one occasion an external auxiliary power unit (EAPU), caught fire on several occasions and led to catastrophic losses. On the other hand, the vulnerability caused by externally stored items only underlined the wisdom of storing ammunition in a separate compartment protected by blast doors, which contained fires and saved the crew when the main rounds ignited.

    RPG ABRAMS

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  84. Jeez, somebody's kidding their readers--dontcha think? That guy makes the Abrams sound like junk. Even the gun is "inadequate".

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  85. I think they're sore because it was a Chrysler-designed T-34 that saved their bacon from the Hun in the Great Patriotic War.

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  86. "I had an argument w/my son about the Abrahms:
    I was "sure" we had lost some early on to RPGs in sensitive spots.
    He says no.
    Some were disabled, at least, right?"


    Yeah, we've lost some. First Gulf War, however, we only had 4 disabled, none permanentaly.

    RPGs in an urban area, however, are something else.

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  87. There's still plenty of debate over whether that is really a Chrystler suspension.

    I actually was at a dinner 2 weeks ago when a former Boeing contractor and a Gulf War tank veteran were arguing over it. I love being surrounded by nerds.

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  89. Oops, it is actually a Christie suspension. Knew something didn't look right.

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  91. Personally, I just wish that Yon hadn't bought into enemy propaganda wrt the true stories that were put into Iraqi papers.

    We've got enough bad press without making it worse.

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  92. I really need to start getting here earlier in the day. heh.

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  93. Cutler: don't go to Yon's site or you'll freak out: the admin links a pdf that quotes LARRY WILKERSON (Powell hatchet man) extensively!
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    Cutler said:
    " I love being surrounded by nerds. "
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    Well then, these two are for you:
    dontdownloadthissong
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    White and Nerdy

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  94. Bill Roggio says this, about Afghanistan:
    "The desire to cut a deal with the Taliban has grown, and has infected the British forces in Afghanistan. The British forces fighting in the troubled Musa Qala district in Helmand province have "agreed ... [to]... quietly pull out of Musa Qala in return for the Taliban doing the same." Brigadier Ed Butler personally attended a loya jirga to negotiate with the Taliban."

    NATO, the way to Victory or accomadation? Accomadation is fine, but then it ain't a War.

    The War would be over. The Peace begun, Glory be!

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  95. Peace in our Time!

    Send out the Cryers
    Spread the Word
    Tell Rush & Hannity
    Golly! Pass the bubbly,
    the War is over!
    So good to know, It's Peace, Peace!

    Those Brits know the Real Deal
    Peace in our Time!

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  96. by ALICIA CHANG, AP Science Writer

    LOS ANGELES -- Scientists frustrated by the iron grip that academic journals hold over their research can now pursue another path to fame by taking their research straight to the public online.

    Instead of having a group of hand-picked scholars review research in secret before publication, a growing number of Internet-based journals are publishing studies with little or no scrutiny by the authors' peers. It's then up to rank-and-file researchers to debate the value of the work in cyberspace.

    The Web journals are threatening to turn on its head the traditional peer-review system that for decades has been the established way to pick apart research before it's made public.

    Next month, the San Francisco-based nonprofit Public Library of Science will launch its first open peer-reviewed journal called PLoS ONE, focusing on science and medicine. Like its sister publications, it will make research articles available for free online by charging authors to publish.


    Publish or perish
    Now there will be vanity press scientific papers. Gotta love it.

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  97. I just typed up two long posts and then lost them.

    Short answer: If you're going to try to prove America's complete innocent, then you're going to lose. All of the societal trends - the schools, the movies, the politicians, the academics - are against you. And they're right, America has failings, it always has and always will. These people live in a perfection cult, they take the present for granted and blame everyone else for its failings to boost their egos.

    It should always be relative. You only need to be the second-worst side in a war of two, for example, to deserve to win.

    When Europe falls apart in the next few decades, we'll be even better prepared to insist "where else would you want to live?"

    The perfection cult needs to be beat to death, however. They'll let millions of other people die just so they can feel pure.

    Frankly, what was wrong with 'love it or leave it'? If you don't like it, move the fuck elsewhere and quit whining.

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  98. Yep, that was the short answer, so you can imagine how pissed I am atm. :P

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  99. Desert Rat - imagine how that will dilute the quality of research material on the web. Be prepared to double check anything and everything someone sends or refers to.

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  100. Morning gents. Check the next post.

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