COLLECTIVE MADNESS


“Soft despotism is a term coined by Alexis de Tocqueville describing the state into which a country overrun by "a network of small complicated rules" might degrade. Soft despotism is different from despotism (also called 'hard despotism') in the sense that it is not obvious to the people."

Sunday, October 08, 2006

Different Islamic reaction to new Danish "Outrage"?


Danish Video Sparks Fresh Outrage
Saeed Al-Abyad, Arab News

JEDDAH, 8 October 2006 — The Organization of the Islamic Conference (OIC) yesterday said it will demand an explanation from the Danish government for the state TV’s broadcasting of a video mocking the Prophet Muhammad (pbuh).

Danish state TV on Friday aired amateur video footage showing a number of members of the anti-immigrant Danish Peoples’ Party (DPP) at a summer camp in August drinking, singing and engaging in a competition to draw humiliating images of the Prophet.

A source at the 57-member OIC said the group will try to “find out the reasons behind the repeated ridiculing of the Prophet in Denmark” and warned that the incident would have dangerous repercussions.

The OIC reacted to the latest outrage as Muslim leaders in Denmark condemned the screening of the video, but said they would not be goaded into taking action.

In September last year Danish daily Jyllands-Posten published cartoons, including one showing the Prophet Muhammad with a bomb in his turban. Muslims denounced them as blasphemous, sparking protests early this year in which more than 50 people died in Asia, Africa and the Middle East.

“Against the background of the problems earlier, we have to be careful,” said Ahmed Abu-Laban, a Copenhagen imam who helped organize a trip to Egypt and Lebanon last year to rally support among Muslim leaders for protests against those drawings.

“This time it’s a different situation. Of course it’s deplorable, but we all know the attitude the DPP has toward Muslims and Islam and these pictures were never intended for publication,” he said.

Abu-Laban said he regretted the Danish TV’s decision to air the footage saying it raised ethical questions. “We’ve been working very hard to resolve the problems since the conflict earlier this year.”

The youth wings of other parties, including the ruling Liberal Party, criticized the DPP and said they would protest by not attending any political events where members of the Danish Peoples’ Party were present.

Yildiz Akdogan, spokeswoman for Democratic Muslims, a pro-integration group formed in the aftermath of the protests against the cartoons in February, said she was glad other parties had condemned the actions. “I think the events are too stupid and too absurd to provoke demonstrations or other actions from Muslims,” she said. “Of course it’s not a good thing and definitely does not make building bridges any easier, but I hope it won’t have any lasting effect.” Kenneth Kristensen, a senior member of the DPP’s youth movement, criticized the events, but stopped short of apologizing. The party was not available for comment yesterday.

The DPP rose to prominence in a 2001 election on a platform that combines emphasis on increased spending on schools and care for the elderly with a strong anti-immigrant stance. It has been accused of racism, but has been a political ally of the center-right coalition led by Prime Minister Anders Fogh Rasmussen since 2001.

Muhammad Al-Johani, secretary-general of the World Islamic Media Organization, urged businessmen in the Islamic world to support WIMO’s programs aimed at educating people in the West on the history of Islam and teachings of the Prophet.

“Such programs will play a big role in removing misunderstanding of non-Muslims on Islam and its Prophet,” Al-Johani told Arab News.

He said many people in the West do not know that Muslims’ love for their Prophet is part and parcel of their religious faith. “We have to explain to them the danger of insulting the Prophet as no Muslim will accept it,” he added.

Egypt’s Muslim Brotherhood condemned the video. “The Muslim Brotherhood denounces this repetition of acts (hostile to Islam) in the West and calls on Muslims to defend their religion in this sacred month” of Ramadan, a statement said. It called for a boycott of products from countries that “permit these sort of acts,” for peaceful protests and for international legislation banning such “attacks.”

In Britain, newspapers yesterday backed a government minister embroiled in a political storm sparked by his views on the Muslim women wearing the face veil.

Several dailies commented editorially on remarks made by former Foreign Secretary Jack Straw and subsequent protests.

Straw, now responsible for arranging government business, said the veil made it harder for Muslims to integrate and that he preferred talking to constituents face to face, often asking Muslim women to remove their veils.

The issue of integrating Britain’s 1.65 million Muslims has been high on the political agenda since the deadly July 2005 London bombings. “It is perhaps understandable if Muslims feel under siege at the moment,” said The Sun newspaper, Britain’s biggest-selling daily. “That is the unhappy consequence of Islamic extremists bringing terror and death to the UK and the world.”

But Straw’s “constructive observations about veils have sparked an absurd overreaction from some Muslims for whom even the mildest criticism of any aspect of their religion amounts to a declaration of war.”

Several newspapers said Straw, 60, a skilled diplomat and experienced politician, representing a town with a significant Muslim minority, was just the sort of carefully-worded man who could launch such a topic.

The Times newspaper said “community relations might be improved by genuine face-to-face contact,” adding that the veil “precludes a basic form of human contact in a way which the Sikh turban or the Buddhist robe” does not.

The Daily Telegraph said Straw had “touched a raw nerve” by focusing on such an emblematic symbol of Muslim life but that “integration can’t be achieved behind the veil.”

22 comments:

  1. But Straw’s "constructive observations about veils have sparked an absurd overreaction from some Muslims for whom even the mildest criticism of any aspect of their religion amounts to a declaration of war."

    They call non-Muslim areas of the Earth the House of War, and they are shocked when we make fun of Mo' ?

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  2. Mo' the merrier.

    Good old mika/ met- the old fellow.
    No, unfortunately the US is not at war with Mohammed, Islam, Iran or Syria, Darfur, Sudan, Palistine or Lebanon.
    There may be Covert Ops, but as I told you over a year ago, the US needed an Enemy to fight, not a fog.
    Fogs are Police work.
    Perhaps that is why the Police are going paramilitary.

    The US Army is not going to advance across the mid east, not a chance. There is no Will amongst US for that type action

    Recall that when Mr Chafee won the Primary, buddy announced that "We'd hold RI!"
    We being Republicans, not "Conservatives" or "Libertarians" or the "Right", because Mr Chafee is none of those things.
    In any case, Mr Chafee is down by 5.4%, to Sheldon Whitehouse the Democrat.
    So by supporting Mr Chafee what will have the DC Republicans have gained, but to alienate Stephen Laffey's more conservative supporters. Similar to their failed strategy in AZ8.
    Political Hubris by the Federals.

    The Danish deal, how dare those Danes be so brash, as to draw cartoons.

    After all this time "Partition" of Iraq is now in the News. Failure of Bush Policy to be discussed Election minus 30 days?

    "... When Iraq's current government was formed last April, after four months of bitter disputes, wrangling and paralysis, many voices in America and in Iraq said the next six months would be the crucial testing period. That was a fair expectation. It has now been almost six months, and what we have seen are bitter disputes, wrangling and paralysis. Meanwhile, the violence has gotten worse, sectarian tensions have risen steeply and ethnic cleansing is now in full swing. There is really no functioning government south of Kurdistan, only power vacuums that have been filled by factions, militias and strongmen. It is time to call an end to the tests, the six-month trials, the waiting and watching, and to recognize that the Iraqi government has failed. It is also time to face the terrible reality that America's mission in Iraq has substantially failed. ..."

    Or so, that's what Fareed Zakaria says.

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  3. Well, rufus, that Victory, against Saddam was gained and then Iraq lost. It did not have to be that way.
    However the US extricates itself, it will not "Roll East".
    That is a threat of a "paper tiger".
    Post-modern War, as practiced by US & Israel, is a failed strategy. There is no adequate military threat we wield against Iran, save the nukes, which are politically impossible to use in preemption.

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  4. As Mr Bush and the Republicans campaign hard on "War".
    If the Democrats then win on 7 Nov, what is the "Mandate"?
    In a word
    Peace

    Comin' at ya, 8 Nov 06

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  5. --because I prefer a liberal Pub to a liberal Dem, I can't be a conservative?

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  6. I mean, who can stand a Chafee, but also, who can stand losing all the committee chairs?

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  7. No because you support the losing liberal Republican, at the expense of the conservative. Then the Liberal Republican loses, regardless.
    Cynical Hubris.

    "... Indeed, there have been some bright spots; commonsense tax cuts that have invigorated the economy top that list. But the rays of sunshine have been eclipsed by massive Republican failures. On spending. On entitlement reform. On education. On illegal aliens. On ethical behavior. On the war in Iraq.

    And the Republican Party, and the republic, will pay dearly on Nov. 7. ...

    ... It's time for a new party. It's time to declare our independence from the disobedient duopoly that serves not the people but itself.

    It's time for a new American Revolution. ..."


    The Pittsburgh Tribune-Review says this in an Editorial

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  8. Control the agenda, if at all possible. Fight the purity wars in the cloakroom.

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  9. No, I don't support Chafee, never did. Just posted a "glad he won, if he is indeed the only one who can beat the Dem".

    This is an old argument--goes way back to the conservative years in the wilderness. The good guys finally won, in '94, and as you and I both lament, have not driven home the victory.

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  10. Let's examine you for a moment, rat. A few weeks ago, you jumped all over rufus and/or habu for speculating on a new American Revolution, saying that we had to work inside the system as it is.

    But today you're Patrick Henry.

    So, who's inconsistent, now?

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  11. Newsweek's new polls say it's all over for the pubs. Newsweek is to be believed, for sure. Newsweek would *never* make anything up.

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  12. This story is certainly a page-turner, alright.

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  13. well, that only leaves "dog-eared' as things that happen to pages--so I guess I'll just stop there, before we all throw up.
    :-\

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  14. .can You ID Which Parites Agenda this is? Free Cigar if you know.

    Category: Description:

    African-American Equality Full economic, social and political equality for African American people with affirmative action with goals and timetables.
    American Indian Equality Equal rights for Native Americans. Justice, reparations and true thriving homelands with traditional cultures encouraged rather than the current poverty-stricken reservations.
    Civil Rights Protect the Bill of Rights. Equal protection for all against discrimination.
    Culture Inspiration that keeps us moving. Outlets transcending crass commercialism; reinventing people's culture befitting today's struggles.
    Economic Democracy Exposing the economic order of the haves and the have nots and alternatives that bring prosperity to all.
    Public Education Free, quality public education under full community control emphasizing the rights of students, teachers and staff with curricula that reflect the history and aspirations of the community.
    Electoral Every vote counts. Elections and legislation that make a difference. Voting rights and campaign finance reform.
    Environmental Protection A livable, sustainable world is a necessity. Implementation of global cooperation to save the air and oceans, the habitats, wildlife and human populations from environmental degradation and corporate plunder.
    Health Care National system of universal health care with the rights of patients and health care workers enhanced and respected.
    Immigrant Rights The struggle against anti-immigrant legislation and vigilantes; immigrant rights movement; immigrant workers; US/Mexico border issues; etc.
    Independent Media To put the powerful weapons of mass media in the service of progressive movements. Criticism of and independence from corporate media.
    Justice Rehabilitation not revenge. End the death penalty. End police brutality and racist discrimination in the justice system.
    Labor The right to organize unions. Dignity of work and workers with living wages and improved working conditions.
    LGBT Rights Equal rights of Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual and Transgendered people including domestic partnership. End homophobia.
    Long Term The fight for USA; for jobs with peace, democracy and justice.
    Mexican-American Equality Equal rights of Mexican-American people. Legal amnesty for immigrants. End anti-immigrant laws and policies including English-Only" laws; outlawing anti-immigrant hate crimes.
    Other Struggles For all the other struggles that don't fit neatly into the listed categories.
    Peace and solidarity World peace; solidarity against war and imperialist globalization -- a world order beyond intervention and domination.
    Puerto Rican Equality Equal rights for Puerto Rican people. Immediate ending to US Navy bombing on Vieques. Political self-determination for Puerto Rico.
    Retirees Active and involved for life. Keep Social Security safe from Wall Street privatization. Save Medicaid.
    Rural America The fight to save family farmers and rural communities from the jaws of agribusiness and the banks.
    Unity and Coalition Building Building strong mass movements to effectively fight for justice, peace and jobs.
    Women's Equality Equal rights for women. Equal pay for equal work. Protect reproductive rights. End sexism.
    Youth and Students The rights and the fights that concern young people; including free, quality public education.
    Social Security The Struggle to Defend and Expand Social Security

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  15. Oh isn't that special, Rufus. In 2000 there was a budget surplus of $236 billion dollars. Bush gets in there, forecasts a deficit of $521 billion dollars for 2006, but says he'll try to cut that in half, which he does! Now he wants a pat on the back. That would be like thanking Tony Soprano for only busting one of your kneecaps instead of both of them.

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  16. LGBT Rights Equal rights of Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual and Transgendered people including domestic partnership. End homophobia.

    Equal rights for fellow Americans who work and pay taxes too. What a radical concept. Next they'll be letting the coloreds use the same water fountains.

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  17. What about the Crusades, teresita--don't forget the CRUSADES!

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  18. Katrina & Rita, too, don't forget those two budget-busters, while counting the till.

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  19. Why are the Dems getting so exorcised over Foley having sex with a 21 year old man? I thought they were in favor of "Gay Rights."

    Probably because Foley opposed those rights.

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  20. Saturation bombing may not always work, but Saturation Comics would:
    Have them running around like Headless Chickens trying to keep Outraged at all the latest Outrages.
    A Manhattan Project of Southpark Episodes on ROP would finish them off good.

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  21. yes.. bookmarked style.

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