“Soft despotism is a term coined by Alexis de Tocqueville describing the state into which a country overrun by "a network of small complicated rules" might degrade. Soft despotism is different from despotism (also called 'hard despotism') in the sense that it is not obvious to the people."

Wednesday, February 08, 2017

Europeans have had enough of the suicidal policies created by their leaders and are rejecting uncontrolled immigration

Majority of Europeans say Muslim immigration should be stopped – poll

Majority of Europeans say Muslim immigration should be stopped – poll
More than 55 percent of Europeans say that immigration from Muslim-majority countries should be stopped, a poll from a London-based think tank says.
The poll, carried out by the Royal Institute of International Affairs, also known as Chatham House, a group which analyzes major international issues and current affairs, was released on Tuesday.  

More than 10,000 people from 10 European states took part in the survey. The respondents were given the following statement: “All further migration from mainly Muslim countries should be stopped.”

“Overall, across all 10 of the European countries an average of 55 percent agreed that all further migration from mainly Muslim countries should be stopped, 25 percent neither agreed nor disagreed and 20 percent disagreed,” the think tank said, adding that in no country “did the percentage that disagreed surpass 32 percent.”

The group says that the research “points to significant and widespread levels of public anxiety over immigration from mainly Muslim states.”

The countries most opposed to further immigration were Austria, Poland, Hungary, France, Belgium, Germany, and Greece, “despite these countries having very different sized resident Muslim populations,” they said.

“With the exception of Poland, these countries have either been at the centre of the refugee crisis or experienced terrorist attacks in recent years.”

According to the poll, the opposition to Muslim immigration is “especially intense among retired, older age cohorts while those aged below 30 are notably less opposed.”

Also, those with less education display more negative attitudes towards Muslims: 

“Of those with secondary level qualifications, 59 percent opposed further Muslim immigration. By contrast, less than half of all degree holders (48 percent) supported further migration curbs.”

The authors of the survey said that the poll was carried out prior to the implementation of US President Donald Trump’s controversial ‘Muslim ban.’

“Our results are striking and sobering. They suggest that public opposition to any further migration from predominantly Muslim states is by no means confined to Trump’s electorate in the US but is fairly widespread.”

This is not the first poll which indicates that EU citizens tend to have negative attitudes towards Muslims. In July 2015, a survey from the Pew Research Center, an American think tank, revealed that many Europeans rate Muslims “unfavorably.” The highest opposition towards Muslims was recorded in Hungary (72 percent), Italy (69 percent) and Poland (66 percent). 


  1. Europeans Side with Trump: Approve Ban on Muslim Migration
    Wednesday, 08 February 2017

    An extensive new poll has found that 55 per cent of Europeans want to stop immigration from Muslim countries, with just 20 per cent supporting its continuation.

    A survey carried out by the Royal Institute of International Affairs think tank asked 10,000 Europeans in ten different countries if they agreed with the statement, “All further migration from mainly Muslim countries should be stopped.”

    55 per cent answered in the affirmative, 25% said they don’t know and just 20% said they disagreed with the statement.

    Opposition to Muslim immigration is strongest in Poland, where 71% oppose it compared to just 9% who support it.

    In France, which has experienced a number of horrific terror attacks over the last two years, 61% oppose Muslim immigration while just 16% support it.

  2. In Germany, which has seen instances of mass molestation of women carried out by Muslim migrants, most notably in Cologne, 53% support a halt on Muslim immigration, while 19% oppose that view.

    The weakest support for halting Muslim immigration is in Spain, where 41% endorse the policy, although this is still a higher number than the 32% who don’t.

    Even amongst young people aged 18-29, millennials who would be expected to hold leftist views, a majority of 44%-27% support a halt on Muslim immigration.


  3. When Dutch populist Geert Wilders promises to stop Islam and make the Netherlands great again, his message finds a ready audience in the country's newest city of Almere.

    "It's too easy for people to come here," says Joost, a 60-year-old market trader. "Too many guys from Turkey and Morocco, economic migrants. I have three small children, what kind of world will they grow up in?"

    Dutch voters go to the polls on 15 March and Mr Wilders' Freedom Party (PVV) may win the biggest number of seats.

    Almere means "all lake", which it was until the 1960s. Then it became a concrete conurbation with affordable homes for people leaving Amsterdam. For several years it has been Geert Wilders territory.

    Immigrants now make up about 30% of the population and that ethnic diversity is reflected at the market, where you can find steaming bowls of spicy Surinamese brown beans and headscarves displayed in rainbow fashion.

    Often described as the Dutch Donald Trump, Mr Wilders shares the US president's opposition to Muslim immigration, his distrust of the media and his love of Twitter.

  4. What Wilders wants:

    * "De-Islamising the Netherlands" - no more immigrants or asylum seekers from Muslim countries

    * No Islamic headscarves in public functions; ban on Islamic expressions that violate public order

    * Ban on Koran, closure of mosques and Islamic schools

    * Dutch exit from EU

    * Deport criminals with dual nationality

    * Lower income tax, pension age at 65, cuts in elderly care, home care

    1. Go Geert !

      Except for this:

      cuts in elderly care, home care

      I think that Geert is going to get the most votes in the upcoming March, I think it is, elections, and be able toform some kind of government.


    Quick: What do “Tonight Show” host Jimmy Fallon, Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer, NBC’s “Saturday Night Live,” US Weekly and former President Barack Obama have in common?

    All have been accused of the high crime of “normalizing” Donald Trump. The idea is that anyone not relentlessly emoting against the 45th president is helping him build the new Reich. As with so much of the Sturm und Drang surrounding Mr. Trump, the point here is not to advance an anti-Trump argument but to preclude argument altogether.

    After all, does one argue with Hitler?

    The crazy is not entirely mad. In 2009, activists note, Republicans found themselves in a similar fix, with Mr. Obama ensconced in the Oval Office and lopsided Democratic majorities running Congress. By crashing Mr. Trump’s administration, the activists hope to excite their base and revive their party the way Republicans did.

    Perhaps. But there’s a good argument that the Democrats are getting played. This was, in fact, the headline over a recent New York Daily News piece by Mike Gecan, co-director of the Industrial Areas Foundation—the same IAF that was co-founded by Saul Alinsky and helped inspire a young community organizer named Barack Obama.

    Mr. Gecan argues that the parallel for what’s happening in Washington right now is Wisconsin in 2011. Back then, Gov. Scott Walker backed a bill stripping public-employee unions of collective-bargaining rights. The left erupted in protest, with demonstrators occupying the State Capitol and a movement pushing a recall of the governor in what became a national drama.

    Just one problem: It didn’t work. The bill was passed and ruled constitutional. Gov. Walker won the 2012 recall election in June even as Mr. Obama carried Wisconsin in the presidential in November. And Republicans increased their majorities in the Wisconsin state House and Senate.

    Mr. Gecan says protest is no substitute for hard, grass-roots persuasion. “Many Dems either don’t know how to relate to people with moderate or mixed views or they don’t want to,” he writes. “They prefer rock stars and celebrities to bus drivers and food service workers. They like cute sayings and clever picket signs, not long and patient listening sessions with people who have complicated interests, people who might not pass the liberal litmus test.”

  6. Certainly it’s possible Mr. Trump will end up alienating people who would otherwise work with him but are weary of cracks such as the one implying a moral equivalence between America and Vladimir Putin’s Russia. Yet the American people are not hearing Mr. Trump in a vacuum. They are hearing him in the context of what is coming from the mouths of his critics, the extravagance of which risks overwhelming anything preposterous Mr. Trump might say himself.

    One example: Have any of those outraged by Mr. Trump’s tweet disparaging a “so-called judge” paid the least attention to the glaring emptiness of legal reasoning behind the judge’s stay? Ditto for Sally Yates: Anyone else spot the irony in praising a Justice Department appointee for standing up to fascism with an unconstitutional challenge to executive authority?

    These are only the mildest forms. At the Women’s March on Washington, Americans heard Madonna fantasize about bombing the White House. On Twitter, they read a then-Politico journalist use a four-letter obscenity to suggest an incestuous relationship between the president and his daughter. Last week American TV screens were filled with images of the champions of tolerance setting fires and smashing windows at Berkeley to stop a gay conservative from addressing College Republicans. On, Wisconsin!

    Now Mr. Trump’s progressive opponents seem determined to eat their own. Recently they protested outside Mr. Schumer’s Brooklyn home, under the banner of that same four-letter obscenity, which is highly popular among those who regard Mr. Trump as the triumph of the vulgar.

    In New York, where Hillary Clinton won nearly 80% of the citywide vote, this kind of protest may be a crowd pleaser. So is a strategy that calls for boycotting presidential inaugurations, not showing up for Senate committee votes or voting “no” on every Trump cabinet pick. But in, say, North Dakota—a state Mr. Trump carried by 36 points and where Sen. Heidi Heitkamp is up for re-election in 2018—folks might see things differently.

    Again, it’s entirely possible President Trump has unleashed furies that will do him in or at least prevent him from doing his job. But the Wisconsin outcome remains equally possible. Which two years from now would leave Mr. Schumer leading an even more shrunken Democratic Party, especially if President Trump manages to get the economy growing again.

    If the Wisconsin outcome happens, it won’t be the pro-Trumpers who normalized him. It will be the enemies who shunned democratic politics in favor of celebrity preening, F-bombs and protests designed to intimidate.

    Write to

    1. .

      Certainly it’s possible Mr. Trump will end up alienating people who would otherwise work with him but are weary of cracks such as the one implying a moral equivalence between America and Vladimir Putin’s Russia. Yet the American people are not hearing Mr. Trump in a vacuum. They are hearing him in the context of what is coming from the mouths of his critics, the extravagance of which risks overwhelming anything preposterous Mr. Trump might say himself.

      For instance, introducing new addition to the bar, Candy Kane, Pulitzer Prize winning journalist, gossip columnist, and weather girl, digging the dirt nationally and based out of Cincinnati, Ohio.

      The Fly on the Wall

      Gossip from the West Wing...

      Candy Kane

      February, 8, 2017

      Does Sean Spicer now have two strikes against him? Is the ump in the red tie keeping score?

      Strike One: It appears Sean Spicer got the message once Trump's dress code was circulated among the White House staff. Sean no longer wears a suit that looks (and fits) like it came off the rack at Walmarts. His latest pressers see him dressed to the nines and wearing a Trump tie. Way to go Sean. Looking pretty dapper.

      Strike Two: Word has it Trump was really upset with last Saturday's SNL skits, especially the one where Melissa McCarthy satirized Seanny Boy. The skit was bad enough but the fact that SNL used a women to impersonate Spicer was enough to turn 'D' from orange to red. My sources tell me Melania slept in Barron's room to avoid the tornado circulating through the Mar a Lago estate. Better lay low Sean.

      Strike Three: ........

      Well you'll just have to wait. Come back tomorrow and see if Sean strikes out, is kicked out of the game, or hits a home run for The Donald.

      Buzz...Buzz... See you later kids.

      Candy Kane


  7. For his:

    QuirkWed Feb 08, 03:11:00 AM EST

    Quirk gains a whopping 125,000 'Spunky Creative Bonus Points' awarded to his account v Doug.

    1. Secret of Q'a love of nasty music revealed:

      Music and sex stimulate same part of brain....DRUDGE

  8. February 8, 2017
    Trump could just ignore court’s order halting travel ban
    By Selwyn Duke

    Does our current status quo make our Constitution a suicide pact? Thomas Jefferson certainly thought it could be, warning that accepting judicial supremacy would make our founding document just that, a felo de se, as he put it in Latin.

    Acceptance of judicial supremacy, by the way, is precisely why President Trump's temporary ban on immigration from seven Muslim-majority nations is on hold. Imagine that.

    Alexander Hamilton wrote in The Federalist, No. 78 that the judiciary is the "least dangerous" branch of government because it "has no influence over either the sword or the purse." Yet it's trumping the man with the sword: the president. Does it have to be this way?

    No, Trump could simply ignore the court ruling suspending his ban.

    Outrageous?! Unconstitutional?! Actually, it's wholly constitutional.

    In his dissent from the 2015 Obergefell v. Hodges marriage ruling, the late Justice Antonin Scalia warned that with "each decision ... unabashedly based not on law," the Court moves "one step closer to being reminded of [its] impotence." What did Scalia know about courts' power?

    That it's basically an illusion....

    Good educational article on the proper position of the Courts in our better scheme of things....

  9. Replies
    1. All Hail The 9th Circuit Court of Schamiels !

  10. Morning Consult Poll: Trump’s travel ban enjoys majority support, 55/38


    Video from 2008.
    We're losing time.
    Europe and Canada are finished.

  12. .

    Who is this crazy hot new blogger at the Elephant Bar?

    Candy Kane Bio

    Born in 1975 and raised in Gourdville, Ohio, Candy has always been a small town girl with big-time ambitions. She graduated from Gourdville High in 1995 and Carterville Community College in 1999.

    A former Miss Ohio beauty contestant winner, Candy Kane was featured in the 1998 Sports Illustrated swimsuit issue and classified as an “up and comer with boundless potential” by photojournalist Nick Shalley. After spending 3 years as a barista at one of the largest Starbucks in Cincinnati, Candy decided to move on in search of new challenges. Within a week of making her decision, she had snagged a job on the editorial board of the New York Times.

    Candy found her calling on her new gig and thought she might as well make it a career so she applied to the Columbia University Journalism School in 2002 and graduated with an MBA in journalism 8 months later. She continued with her education and received an MBA from Harvard in 2005 and a PHD in
    Phrenology from the Max Plank Institute of Brain Science and Phrenology with a major in ovoid bumps and bilateral ridges in 2009.

    Tiring of the slow pace at the NYT, Candy moved on to the Cincinnati Enquirer in 2013 where she created the iconic Fly on the Wall gossip column oft quoted by pols and phrenology scientists across the nation. Candy also continues her work as a crack investigative reporter and part time weather girl.

    Ms. Kane was recently involved in a massive lawsuit brought against her former employer, the New York Times, in response to being called a muckraker by one of that paper's op-ed columnists. The lawsuit was dropped when it was made clear to Ms. Kane that the term muckraker did not refer in an way to her past activity in the 'beauty contest' industry.


    1. Candy Kane's career was spectacularly boosted when she took a tip from a hick in Idaho recommending she do all her advertising through Quirk's SuperStar Ad Agency, LLC working out of Detroit, Michigan.

      Her career arc has been straight up ever since.

    2. Quirk's SuperStar Ad Agency has recommended she change her name to Candy Cain from the more prosaic and pedestrian Candy Kane.

      She has reportedly said:

      I am trying to think about this.

    3. Also recommended by Quirk's:

      Drop the Ms.

      Go with Miss or no title at all.

    4. .

      While the name change idea was run up the flag pole by one of the junior members of the ad agency staff, more seasoned heads prevailed and it was never offered up as a suggested move to Ms. Kane. Despite this she caught wind of it through one of her many back channel sources and indicated she would never favor such a move as it might mar her artistic and journalistic integrity.

      As for the title Ms., she indicates she would prefer simply being called Candy by her countless fans (or Chin Chin by her close friends).



    1. .

      Right, if you have been planning the move for a few years anyway, why not call up the Oval Office and get some credit (and air time) for it?


    2. I'm thinking of it - not moving to Arizona but getting some credit/money for it. I don't need any more 'air time'.

      I do have a secure 'Red Phone' line to the White House Oval Office.

  14. Quirk and Ash will destroy this gibberish presented here.

    (Hint: Try "No go zones do not exist" (Credit "The Atlantic")

    Hat Tip, Doug, signed, Doug


    1. Undoubtedly, as Quirk'n'Smirk have a well earned reputation for destroying everything they touch.

  15. I burned my toes:

    The Firehose:

    1. I saw that, and was wondering if it was you 'hot dogging' again.

    2. It was Saxon, hot Douging.

    3. This comment has been removed by the author.

    4. I wouldn't be caught dead in the ocean let alone that close to a lava flow.

  16. Just say:

    "It Doesn't Exist !"

    Judge Robart Was, and Is, Wrong About U.S. Refugee Arrests From Countries Within Trump Visa Ban…

    1. ♦ President Obama puts six month ban on Iraqi refugees in 2011 and media…. crickets.
      ♦ President Trump puts 120 day suspension on Syrian refugees 2017… media explodes.

      ♦ Obama selects 7 countries for enhanced visa security policy and media… crickets.
      ♦ Trump uses Obama law, same Obama DHS policy, and same 7 countries; for a 90-day visa suspension and media explodes.

    2. One of the 'Judges' from the 9th Circuit Court of Schamiels was concerned over RUDY GIULIANI'S comments during the election campaign !

      WTF does that have to do with anything ????

    3. The 9th Circuit Court of Schamiels covers:

      District of Alaska
      District of Arizona
      Central District of California
      Eastern District of California
      Northern District of California
      Southern District of California
      District of Hawaii
      District of Idaho
      District of Montana
      District of Nevada
      District of Oregon
      Eastern District of Washington
      Western District of Washington

      It also has appellate jurisdiction over the following territorial courts:

      District of Guam
      District of the Northern Mariana Islands

      Everyone up this way wants out, wants a new Circuit Court for our area.

    4. .

      Doug, every time you open your mouth, you make my case for me.

      President Obama puts six month ban on Iraqi refugees in 2011...

      No. He didn't.

      President Trump puts 120 day suspension on Syrian refugees 2017

      Wrong again, his order indefinitely prohibits Syrian refugees from entering the U.S.

      Obama selects 7 countries for enhanced visa security policy...

      False, at least in the way it is worded. Obama didn't select the countries. They were part of H.R. 158 which was added by the Republican Congress to an Omnibus spending bill Obama had to sign in 2015 to keep the government going. A couple more countries were added in 2016.

      H.R. 158 did not actually block travel or immigration by residents or citizens of any particular countries; rather, it terminated travel privileges afforded persons previously covered under the Visa Waiver Program. In other words, those people now had to get visas whereas before they didn't. We have been through this a couple of times before here.

      Trump uses Obama law...

      No, he isn't.

      ...same Obama DHS policy...

      No, he isn't.

      Why do you keep insisting on this?


    5. Schamiel/Shlemiel: A clumsy, inept, or foolish person: as in - Quirk is a schamiel

      Urban Dictionary

    6. See: QuirkWed Feb 08, 06:23:00 PM EST

    7. .

      One of the 'Judges' from the 9th Circuit Court of Schamiels was concerned over RUDY GIULIANI'S comments during the election campaign !

      How of you know it was during the campaign and not later? The White House hasn't responded to questions from news agencies on when Giuliani was given his directions, at least as of a few days ago.


    8. See also: QuirkWed Feb 08, 06:32:00 PM EST

    9. WTF does Rudy Giuliani have to do with it in ANY case ?

      Why are the schamiels even bringing it up ??

    10. .

      If you don't know, why are you even commenting on the issue?

      It's obvious you don't know enough to offer any type of informed opinion.



    11. :)


      I don't know what that type of argumentation you use is called, but it must have a name.

      Care to share ?

    12. Rule need to be plastered by Bar Rule 19 !

    13. You have veered into the realm of indecently "[impugning] the motives and conduct" of another Bar member !

      You should be ordered to sit down and shut up.

    14. .

      Let me go further, you are silly goose.

      Had you listened to the audio of the three judge panel questioning both sides in the case (as I did) you would have known that one of the key elements in the Establishment Clause argument around religion involved 'intent'.

      The fact that you didn't know that is not surprising as you are a 'headline' kind of guy. Details? Not so much.

      If you still don't get it, it merely strengthens my point that it's 'obvious you don't know enough to offer any type of informed opinion'.


    15. But then, why was Indonesia not on the list ? Among others....the countries actually targeted account for around 15% of the moslem population of the earth.

      If the intent was to ban moslems ?

      A good idea, in itself....

      It is the most populous moslem nation on earth.

      And was once Hindu, before the muzzies arrived....

    16. I watched the entire miserable farce of a 'hearing' too.

    17. The fact is by the Constitution and legislation the President can bar anyone he wants from entering the USA.

      The Schamiels are trying to become President.

      This is called a judicial, as opposed to a military, coup.

    18. We have banned commies from entering the USA, on the excellent grounds that they wished to overthrow our Constitution, and way of life.

      It is a part of the creed of Islam that they wish to do the same....everywhere on earth.

      Then they will:

      "First show the Poles, then everybody else"

    19. I don't consider Islam to be a 'religion'.

      It panders to the lowest instincts of the unredeemed males of our species.

      In prayer, they pound and bury their faces - the seat of individuality - to the sand, and raise their rear ends.

      They have no 'dialogue with God'.

      They have no sense of destiny, only fate.

      It is total nonsense.

  17. Islamic State has claimed responsibility for a suicide attack that has killed at least 22 people outside Afghanistan's Supreme Court.


    White House spokesman Sean Spicer called the blast a "cowardly attack" and said US national security adviser Michael Flynn had phoned his Afghan counterpart, Mohammad Atmar, to "reaffirm our support to the Afghan government".

  18. Whoa: Poll shows bar on Muslim migration has wide majority support — in Europe

    Share on Facebook 3 3 SHARES
    Political leaders have reacted to Donald Trump’s executive order on a pause in entries from seven nations with alarm — but perhaps they should be more alarmed at their own electorates. Think tank Chatham House conducted polls in ten core European nations, and found wide majority support in eight of the ten for a total bar on immigration from all majority-Muslim nations — and not just a temporary pause, either. The overall approval for such a policy across all ten nations is better than 2-1 (via Francis X. Rocca):...

    Looks like the only people that support muslim immigration to Europe now are the muslims themselves.

  19. Word of the Day

    from O'Reilly Factor


    As in:

    Quirk is a blooting snollygoster


  20. Quirk:

    "Doug, every time you open your mouth, you make my case for me."


    Quirk is always right.

    In QuirkWorld.

    In reality, not so much.

    1. Quirk:

      "We need immigrants to grow the economy"


      Harvard Economist: 42 Percent of Immigrant Households on Public Assistance

      A Harvard economist has found that nearly 42 percent of immigrant households in the United States are on public assistance of some kind.

      “In 2016, there were 8.9 million households headed by a non-citizen … almost 42 percent of those households received some type of assistance,” George Borjas, Professor of Economics and Social Policy at the Harvard Kennedy School, wrote on his website on Feb. 1.

      To come to his conclusions Borjas used census data from 1994 to 2016 to calculate how many of the migrant-headed households receive either money, food stamps, or Medicaid.

      According to Borjas, millions of households could be impacted if existing immigration laws are adhered to.

      Borjas noted that since 1882, the United States has banned the entry of immigrants who could potentially become a “public charge,” meaning they will likely need government-funded assistance.

      The law states the following:

      Any alien who, in the opinion of the consular officer at the time of application for a visa, or in the opinion of the Attorney General at the time of application for admission or adjustment of status, is likely at any time to become a public charge is inadmissible.

      The law was later modified to make it possible to deport immigrants who had become a public charge after entering the country:

      Any alien who, within five years after the date of entry, has become a public charge from causes not affirmatively shown to have arisen since entry is deportable.

    2. The High Cost of Resettling Middle Eastern Refugees

      As Americans continue to debate what to do about the humanitarian crisis in the Middle East, this analysis attempts to estimate the costs of resettling refugees from that region in the United States.

      Although we do not consider all costs, our best estimate is that in their first five years in the United States each refugee from the Middle East costs taxpayers $64,370 — 12 times what the UN estimates it costs to care for one refugee in neighboring Middle Eastern countries.

      The cost of resettlement includes heavy welfare use by Middle Eastern refugees; 91 percent receive food stamps and 68 percent receive cash assistance. Costs also include processing refugees, assistance given to new refugees, and aid to refugee-receiving communities. Given the high costs of resettling refugees in the United States, providing for them in neighboring countries in the Middle East may be a more cost-effective way to help them.

      Among the findings of this analysis:

      On average, each Middle Eastern refugee resettled in the United States costs an estimated $64,370 in the first five years, or $257,481 per household.

    3. Quirk:

      "Obama signed it, but he didn't, really.

      ...The Republicans made him do it.

    4. .

      You can say anything you want using statistics. According to the Heritage Foundation 41.3% of the general population of the US is on some form of government assistance which would put the immigrant population at about the same as the rest of the US.…

      The Census Bureau puts the number at 49% which would put the immigrants at below the national average.

      The post you put up above talked about culture; however, as I recall it also made the point that population growth was necessary for economic growth. Regardless, if it made the point, t's true that you can't get economic growth from a shrinking population. At a 2.1 family reproductive rate or below, you need immigration for economic growth.


    5. .

      "Obama signed it, but he didn't, really.

      ...The Republicans made him do it."

      How fucking stupid are you, Doug. Is it a reading problem or comprehension problem?


    6. .

      A couple days ago you and I talked about point of view. To me, from the things you say and the arguments you make it appears to me that you believe that immigrants coming to this country from the ME are predominately Muslims coming to this country to spread Islam and install Sharia law, that they are lazy and will become a burden on the social services of this country, that a good portion of them are jihadists or support the jihadist and that it is only a matter of time before they turn radical, and that they will never be assimilated into American culture.

      My view is pretty much the opposite. After living near a large population of Middle Eastern immigrants for some time and looking at crime and other statistics in the area and doing quite a bit of reading from sites other than those you frequent, I’ve come to believe that the vast majority of immigrants from areas in the ME torn by war, wars in which the US has contributed to the carnage, having lost their homes and likely much more to bombs, jihadists, religious and sectarian violence, want to come to this country for one primary reason, to leave all that shit behind and start a new life here in peace.

      As to being lazy and a burden on society, there are always exceptions but for the most part the numbers don’t show it. As for there being a big proportion of jihadists, the numbers don’t show it. As for them assimilating, it varies by the countries they come from and where they placed when they get here. Big population areas seem to do better than smaller more isolated ones. Trying to install sharia law? Pure bullshit. There may be instances of them pushing to be allowed certain practices that are objectionable in our culture; but there is no evidence those practices have been allowed if they are against US law or the constitution.

      It’s unlikely the views can be reconciled.

      I'm reconciled to that.


    7. .

      From Wiki

      Reports published by the CIS have been widely deemed misleading and riddled with basic errors by scholars on immigration; think tanks from across the ideological and political spectrum; media of all stripes; several leading nonpartisan immigration-research organizations; and by U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement. The organization has also drawn criticism for its financial and intellectual ties to extremist racists.[5][6][7][8]


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    8. From the Harvard Professor.

      (He's probably "fucking stupid" also.)

      ...since he disagrees with you.

    9. Trying to install sharia law? Pure bullshit.

      Sooner of later they're gonna show you.

      And for you it's gonna be sooner because:

      First we'll show the Poles, then everybody else

    10. Which was said right there practically in your own back yard.

      One can only conclude you are not paying attention.

    11. He was busy watching the nets.

  21. Why do we want any MORE people on the dole ?

    If we didn't have moslem immigrants, half of them wouldn't be on the dole.

    This might be a more profitable way of looking at the problem, Quirk.

  22. .

    We have been over all of this before. A wise man once said never argue with a fool because the people watching from a distance cant tell who is who. A hard learned lesson but one I think I am starting to get.

    You read the shit coming out of jihadwatch, pamgeller, frontpagemag, and breithbart and accept it with no questions, never going back to the original documents to verify, never looking for alternative views. Doug comments on the world and the rest of the US from the comfort of a lava tube in Maui and Bob from beneath his bed in a double-wide in Idaho. He sit expectantly waiting for something to pop up over at jihadwatch or pamgeller so that he can throw up one of your patented ‘potential' Q-nits. If it turns out not to be a jihadist or at least one he can try to sell as a jihadist, that’s the last we hear of it. If it turns to be an Islamist terrorist, he busts a nut. Doug spends his time sifting through his nativist literature and blogs until he can put up something like: DougWed Feb 08, 05:10:00 PM EST

    And you guys aren’t alone. That was embarrassing watching the posts going up the other night regarding that shooting in Canada. Instead of waiting to find out what actually happened, how many posts did we see put up from blogs no one has ever heard of before offering all kinds of what can only be called ‘fake news’ about the incident?

    It all pretty boring.

    SOoooo, I am going to take a break from wasting my time on you guys. Instead, since Trump seems intent on turning this country into a circus or possibly a dark carnival characterized by the bizarre and the burlesque, I, along with my gal-pal Chin Chin Kane will try to lighten the mood by providing through parody and satire a bantering pasquinade.


    1. All of us are exposed to the left wing slant courtesy of the MSM.

      Some of us choose to find other perspectives. find other sources to confirm the MSM bias you immerse yourself in.


    2. How is Maria taking this Chin Chin thing ?

    3. I was hoping he was going to take a vow to shut the fuck up. :-)

    4. Maria can either take it on her chin, or take it out on Quirk's chin, the cad.

      We should all hope for the latter.

  23. Islam USA: Inside America's only Muslim-majority city, where the call to prayer echoes in the streets
    - and Syrian refugees are welcomed in defiance of the governor

    Hamtramck, Michigan, is officially the only city in America where Muslims form a majority after immigration from Bangladesh, Yemen and Bosnia

    It is now welcoming Syrian refugees despite the Michigan governor wanting none in his state
    One new arrival tells Daily Mail Online:

    'There is a mosque on the corner, most of the people speak our language. This place feels like home.'

    Latest census figures put Arabic population at 23 percent, Bangladeshi at 19 percent, Bosnians and other Muslims at around nine percent