COLLECTIVE MADNESS


“Soft despotism is a term coined by Alexis de Tocqueville describing the state into which a country overrun by "a network of small complicated rules" might degrade. Soft despotism is different from despotism (also called 'hard despotism') in the sense that it is not obvious to the people."

Monday, December 01, 2008

Video of Mumbai Terrorist, Azam Amir Kasab, Getting the Shit Kicked Out of Him

I did not hear him being read his Miranda Rights.

UPDATE FROM BBC:

India asks Pakistan for fugitives



India has asked Pakistan to hand over 20 fugitives from Indian law who it believes are settled in Pakistan.
Foreign Minister Pranab Mukherjee said India lodged a formal protest and gave the names to Pakistan's high commissioner at a meeting on Monday.

Tensions have risen between the two neighbours since the attacks in the Indian city of Mumbai last week.
Officials say 201 people were killed - including 22 foreigners - and more than 200 were injured in the violence.
Indian officials have repeatedly said in recent days there is evidence the militants behind the attacks had Pakistani links.
Islamabad has denied involvement and warned against letting "miscreants" inflame tensions in the region.
India's new home minister has vowed to "respond with determination and resolve" over the crisis.


165 comments:

  1. He was singing like a canary!

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  2. Great find, Deuce! What a treat to see that punk getting the shit beat out of him (literally, i imagine).

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  3. Wrotnowski's case got diverted by Supreme Court clerk Danny Bickell and company to be screened for anthrax!. I'm not making this up. I am listening to the report right now. This was to divert it for a week or so, so that it could not be joined with the Donofrio case on Friday. They are resubmitting tomorrow or Wednesday. There may be a protest at the Supreme Court on Thursday or Friday. Donofrio's case is up on Friday. Franz Kafka lives.

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  4. What could possibly go wrong now? *That* is the question.

    Obama rolled out his National Security team today. No DCI; no DNI.

    It was incredibly smart to ask Gates to stay; he's proved himself in a very bad, nay poisonous, situation by turning it around. And it is good of Gates to agree, out of a feeling of dedication to his country rather than mere party.

    Clinton at State will probably be fine. The organization already does so much with so little and she'll infuse a different kind of political celebrity - which can be valuable.

    Jones as NSA, a more or less promising herd-rider.

    But the one area where, as rare consensus has it, the money and other resources now have to go, is the one that is currently, conspicuously subject to arbitrary political considerations in its leadership appointments.

    At this time, there are no bigger shoes to fill than those of the present DCI, nor more riding on the success or failure to do so.

    If there is one area in the defense realm where the incoming administration is going to screw the pooch after the miraculous, late-game turnaround that is directly attributable to the 06 shuffle, it is going to be in this one.

    (Hayden Walks. On. Water.)

    They understand not, it seems, what they do.

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  5. Oh Trish! Would that we mortals could walk in that rarified air of elitist understanding that only. you. and. your. kind. inhabit!

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  6. DECEMBER FREEZE...
    BAILOUT MONITOR DECRIES LACK OF COHERENT PLAN...
    PELOSI EYES $500B MORE...
    Data signal deep global downturn...
    Manufacturing hits 26-year low...
    Schwarzenegger declares fiscal emergency...
    Bush: 'I'm sorry' crisis is occurring...
    Oil plunges below $50...
    Treasury Yields Plunge to Lowest on Record...
    Bernanke: 'No comparison' to Great Depression...
    Bank stocks suffer biggest one-day decline since crisis began...


    And, sole surviving terrorist gets the shit kicked out of him.

    Hope they don't kill him until they get everything out of him he is able to tell.

    -------
    Native born citizen is a citizen that is born in the US, but not necessarily a natural born citizen. Wong Kim Ark was a native born citizen but not a natural born citizen.

    Natural born = born in the US to two US citizens.

    Every President we've had has been a natural born citizen--born of two citizens, but not necessarily of two natural born citizens.

    If there is to be a demo at the Supreme Court Building Thursday your reporter will let you know. A pow wow will be held in the morning among the luminaries at Plains Radio Network to make a decision.

    your Donofrio Case reporter

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  7. Clinton at State will probably be fine. The organization already does so much with so little and she'll infuse a different kind of political celebrity - which can be valuable.
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    I'm sooo relieved.

    The poor darlings at State now have someone who can infuse them with a different kind of political celebrity...bless their hearts. Doing so little with so much for so long...umm...or was that the other way around...Oh, well...doesn't really matter anyhow.

    I agree Trish. Hillary will do fine at State. She has a knack for kissing pigs.

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  8. Now, see, this happens to be one of my little pet peeves. We can't all be hunter-killers, can we? Someone has to do the truly dirty work of influencing by other means, or failing that, keeping a straight face while *wishing* we were influencing by other means.

    A place for everyone and everyone in their place.

    That's why we invented the diplomat.

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  9. That's why we invented the diplomat.

    ...Someone has to do the truly dirty work of influencing by other means, or failing that, keeping a straight face...

    Thank you. I always appreciate your perspective.

    Even though sometimes I don't agree.

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  10. Bob,

    Last thread you said something like, "I don't like this one bit."

    Read this bit on the Insurrection Act
    from wiki and see what you think.

    It would appear without reading too much into the spaces between the lines that there's much to be concerned about. I never gave much thought to posse comitatus, except for Slim Pickens character in Doctor Strangelove. Now it appears extinct.

    Resistance is futile, indeed. Or at least may soon be.

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  11. I'm sooo relieved.
    ==

    Will someone get fired? Will Someone lose their health insurance benefits? Is that even a possibility at that government welfare country club?

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  12. http://es.youtube.com/
    watch?v=IXCP6lJkDZU

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  13. It's always the French horns.

    We probably never made a better instrument.

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  14. Or one better was never made for us.

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  15. Linear, I don't know. That wiki article confuses me a little. I'll try to read it again tomorrow when I'm not so tired. I can't understand why it is coming up now. Who first hatched this egg anyhow, the Congress or the President? Somehow it slipped under my radar screen, for sure.

    If Obama were to get booted out, maybe the troops would be used to secure D.C. Hell if I know.

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  16. Does Mr. O know?

    http://jameshowardkunstler.typepad.com/clusterfuck_nation/2008/12/does-mr-o-know.html

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  17. Linear, do you remember the truly great line, "A fist full of dollars, and a belly full of beer" as Slim Pickens walked down the street, and burped, in some old movie? One hundred Ameros to you, if you can name the movie. I can't.

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  18. Try Rancho DeLuxe, 1975.

    If that's right, I'll take my prize in donuts.

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  19. Does Mr. O know?

    Mr. O has developed a nervous eye tick. What does that tell you?

    Even before inauguration.

    Is he worried about the future of the country, or himself?

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  20. "Rancho Deluxe", I think that may be it!

    What kind of donuts do you like?

    "A fist full of dollars, a belly full of beer" is one of my all-time favorite lines.

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  21. Will someone get fired? Will Someone lose their health insurance benefits? Is that even a possibility at that government welfare country club?

    Not a chance, mat. And why? Happy days are here again! I could go on, but Trish would rightfully accuse me of piling on.

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  22. Will you accept Amerodonuts?

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  23. Plain cake donuts. They all taste the same when you dunk 'em, day old, or week old. Course, they never get to be week old around here.

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    "A fist full of dollars, a belly full of beer" is one of my all-time favorite lines.

    Here's a puzzle for you, Bob. Your line reminded me of it. Which Secretary of Agriculture was canned when he said, ...all they want is a full belly and a warm place to shit..."

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  24. ..."loose shoes, tight pussy, and a warm place to take a shit." ...believe that was Earl Butz talking about what every black man wanted. My brother-in-law, quipped that it sounded good to him.

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  25. my brother in-law, an Irish-American said for him it has been tight shoes, loose pussy and a cold toilet seat. My sister has a good sense of humor quipped....nah I better not.

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  26. Thanks, deuce. Butz it was, and I had the quote wrong...picked it up from a former boss...he probably picked up a sanitized version, or passed on such.

    He got his own ass in a sling later when he put little log raft centerpieces on the tables at some government banquet...little log kon-tikis, with a privy superstructure labeled, SS Butz.

    As I recall...but you know my memory...

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  27. Come on Deuce, give us the rest. You got it all teed up jes right!

    BTE, that was US Secy of Agriculture Earl Butz, correct?

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  28. Christmas shopping is done. My mail order just arrived today. Five nice pamphlet sized copies of The Declaration of Independence and The Constitution of the United States. Delivered for free by the Heritage Foundation.

    When you care enough to send the very best.

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  29. If I hadn't been in the other room, I'd have been first with Butz. Do I get donuts?

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  30. you get yours out of the week old box.

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  31. jW.. I would like to help you out but on this one, trust me, I can't.

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  32. This is not good:

    India asks Pakistan for fugitives BBC


    India has asked Pakistan to hand over 20 fugitives from Indian law who it believes are settled in Pakistan.
    Foreign Minister Pranab Mukherjee said India lodged a formal protest and gave the names to Pakistan's high commissioner at a meeting on Monday.
    Tensions have risen between the two neighbours since the attacks in the Indian city of Mumbai last week.
    Officials say 201 people were killed - including 22 foreigners - and more than 200 were injured in the violence.
    Indian officials have repeatedly said in recent days there is evidence the militants behind the attacks had Pakistani links.
    Islamabad has denied involvement and warned against letting "miscreants" inflame tensions in the region.
    India's new home minister has vowed to "respond with determination and resolve" over the crisis.

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  33. 'Slipped in the shower'

    Gotta be careful with that anthrax, bob. Nasty stuff, anthrax.

    What happens if the Supremes decline to listen, or listen and decline to see the right, as you do?

    What day do the Electoral Collegians meet and elect the next President of the Republic?

    Anyone even know?

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  34. 15 December is the answer, so if the Supremes do not act, by then ...

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  35. Obama will be elected.

    What if the Supremes decide, right, and the electors choose Obama, regardless?

    If it then goes to the House ...
    and the House votes for Obama, regardless?

    And refuses to impeach him, afterward?

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  36. How many deputies can the Supremes muster?

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  37. India would be right to attack any State sponsor of those terrorists, or any State that did not turn the terrorist suspects over.

    That State would be with the Terrorists, and against justice.

    Oh, wait, Pakistan already takes that position, with US.

    Given the choice, with US or against US, Pakistan chose both and we let them.

    Let's see it the Indians are such pussies, too.

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  38. There are some mean people over at Malkin's site, (unlike the EB, I might add.) The dude bought his old lady a ring. Good for them.
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    Everyone is fawning all over the selection of Hillary Clinto for State. Granted, it could have been much worse, but my reaction is (to paraphrase The Jerk) "It's a white woman's world."

    Other than the fact that she turned a few thousand dollars into $80K on the commodities market, what has she done to prepare her for this or for that matter, the Senate? One could say that she is a carpet bagging, nepotistee, de facto quota queen but that would be harsh.

    During the election, she said that if Iran attacked Israel, the US would attack Iran and had the power to "obliterate them." Okay, that's diplomatic. Can you imagine the hue and cry if the Crawford Cowboy had said it?

    Hillary Clinton may make a fine SecState but permit me a few paragraphs to get used to the idea.

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  39. The state of Georgia became involved in a contentious jurisdictional dispute with the Cherokees, culminating in the 1832 U.S. Supreme Court decision (Worcester v. Georgia) which ruled that Georgia could not impose its laws upon Cherokee tribal lands. Jackson is often quoted (regarding the decision) as having said, "John Marshall has made his decision, now let him enforce it!" Whether or not he actually said it is disputed.


    "How many divisions does the Pope have?" unca Joe Stalin

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  40. Madeline Albright may have been more qualified than Hillary is.

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  41. Stalin was never beaten by a Pope.

    The Cherokee, in 1838, were forcibly removed from Georgia.

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  42. By General Winfield Scott and 7,000 Federal troops

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  43. What if the Supremes decide, right, and the electors choose Obama, regardless?

    I'm guessin here, rat.

    Once they decide 'right', there's been no valid election of Barry. Right? So the electors can stay home and enjoy the holidays.

    Since W is limited by constitutional amendment to two terms, he's free to go home to Crawford on Inauguration Day. In fact, I assume he must go home that day, since his second term's expired. Dick Cheney, now, what are chances that he could step in? He's not limited as is W, is he?

    So he picks up the football, and presides over things until a constitutional crisis is resolved by a special election.

    Pelosi may think she's entitled, but how can she take it, if Dick is still breathin, and can declare himself in charge?

    How many deputies can Nancy muster?

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  44. The only "valid" Presidental election lineman, is the Electoral College.

    How those electors are chosen, that is the States prerogative.

    If the College votes Obama, despite the Supremes, Obama will be elected. If the House confirms him, who will stop the peocess?

    There is no 'crisis' the Congress and the College, two of the four Federal branches, overrule the Court.

    Democracy wins.

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  45. The 'Activist Court' finally put in its' place.

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  46. Madeline Albright may have been more qualified than Hillary is.

    But, she could never infuse a different kind of political celebrity - which can be valuable.

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  47. Well, what, do you wanna fly home or do wanna stick with the uncomfortable piece of business that is American foreign policy?

    I could certainly give up mine, if I had to, and that is the least of it.

    What DO YOU WANT?

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  48. I get paid for this.

    You don't.

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  49. The only "valid" Presidental election lineman, is the Electoral College.

    No. Not if the candidate fails to meet the constitutional qualification in the first place. Barry may honestly believe he's qualified. Regarding fraud, he may be pure as the driven snow. But if the court rules against him? Electors can stay home.

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  50. No, the question is what will the President want?

    'We' as in the editorial 'you' have already decided what we want.

    Obama!

    so said 52%, so say we all, after 20Jan09.

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  51. What DO YOU WANT?

    John Bolton.

    Since you asked.

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  52. Seems to me that if the Supremes were able to overturn based on Obama's naturalization status, the Congress would also be bound by the Constitution.

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  53. Not if their States send their votes, lineman.

    Then it is up to Congress to disqualify those votes, and if they do not. If Ms Pelosi and Mr Reid confirm the election, instead.

    The College and Congress will have overruled the Court. The Executive, about which the dispute is over, will stand mute.

    Obama could lose with the Supremes and still gain the White House. If it came to that. Process dictates.

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  54. I get paid for this.

    You don't.


    Here?

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  55. Hmm. What about Biden? He ran for VP, did he not? Would that somehow put him in line for numero uno?

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  56. The Congress 'reads' it differently.

    But these questions are onlu the beginning of the Pandora's box, one that the Supremes will not open.

    I'm still favorin' Krispy Kremes.

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  57. I'm beginning to think that "activist celebrity" is most important to the whirled. Who would you rather adore? Anjelina Jolie or John Bolton.

    Much as I respect Mr. Bolton....

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  58. Donuts!

    Give one to Trish...and fill up her coffee.

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  59. Nooooooo. John Bolton we've nudged to a manhole.

    He's not coming back.

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  60. The Collegians could all vote for Mrs Palin, if they so decided, whit.

    Regardless of the results of 4Nov. Not that they would, of course.

    But the Electoral College is an equal branch, not to be dictated to by the Supremes. As is Congress.

    The Collegians choose the President, the House confirms.

    The President, once elected, can only be removed vy impeachment, which originates in the House.

    How many deputies could the Court muster?

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  61. Obama could lose with the Supremes and still gain the White House. If it came to that. Process dictates.

    Banana Republic process.

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  62. Let us name the others that have fallen down that hole, shall we?

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  63. You can probably name them yourselves.

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  64. The President, once elected, can only be removed vy impeachment, which originates in the House.

    He's not elected if the court declares him ineligible in the first place.

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  65. You can probably name them yourselves.

    Yes, but the hour is late. I must bid my fond adieu, Trish. Do have another cup of coffee...and one of rat's banana Krispy Kremes.

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  66. He is elected if the Collegians vote for him and the House confirms.

    No where in the process do the Supremes get to sit in judgement of the candidate's viability.

    And how can the Supremes rule against what has not yet occurred?

    Obama is not elected until the Collegians vote, on 15Dec.

    The Supremes CANNOT tell the Electors who they can and cannot vote for. Nor tell the House members, whether they can vote to confirm or not.

    The Supremes cannot remove a President.

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  67. The Collegians decide on 'natural citizen' status not the Court.

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  68. When all you want is a donut, nothing else will do.

    John Bolton left the reservation a long time ago. Not that there's anything wrong with that. But that he's a rabid motherfucker.

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  69. No where in the process do the Supremes get to sit in judgement of the candidate's viability.

    Then who determines if there's been a big mistake made, and the candidate is ineligible under the constitution?

    The Supremes CANNOT tell the Electors who they can and cannot vote for.

    They don't have to. They just point out that a grievous mistake has unfortunately been made. The election of Nov 4 is null and void unless somebody can put up a valid candidate for them to vote on by December 15.

    The Supremes cannot remove a President.

    Read my lips. He's not even a candidate between the [hypothetical] decision by the court and 15Dec.

    Nobody, not the court, not the electoral college, not the house can override the constitution. The court decides what's constitutional.

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  70. But that he's a rabid motherfucker.

    Maybe. If so, may we have more of them.

    And fewer of the latte liberals who wet their pants when they're asked to leave D.C. and go where their job description says they go when the boss says so.

    You don't like Bolton? Tough shit.

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  71. You don't like Bolton? Tough shit.

    Tue Dec 02, 06:46:00 AM EST

    I think it's the other way around.

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  72. LOL

    Have a nice day. I'm going to bed.

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  73. I got to get some sleep too.

    Even Gandhi himself would have made a good National Rifle Association member---


    Larrey Anderson

    The world watched in horror as the terrorists prowled and murdered for hours through the streets of a major city in India. The mayhem went all but unabated. No one tried to stop them -- because no one could stop them. None of the citizens were armed.


    India has a long history of gun control. Under British occupation, the citizens of India had no rights to private gun ownership. Even Mahatma Gandhi protested the firearms prohibition:


    "Among the many misdeeds of the British rule in India, history will look upon the Act depriving a whole nation of arms, as the blackest." (M. Gandhi, An Autobiography: The story of my Experiments with Truth.)

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  74. Wach elected Federal official decides on Constitutionality, lineman. Not just the Courts.

    To vote for knowingly unConstitutional measures would violate their oath. No one would do that.

    The election of 4Nov is inconswquental to the electoral process, except that is how the several States have decided to choose their electors.

    Those electors are not bound by the 4Nov results. Nor are they bound by the Supremes. Each elector can vote as the may, for whomever they decide.

    Even George Wallace.

    The election that really counts, for President, is on 15Dec08, that modern marketing and poor public schooling obscure that truth, just the way it is.

    Interesting reading

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  75. One would assume that McCain's electors would vote for him, regardless.

    What the Obama electors decided to do, there'd be the telling of the tale.

    Then off to the Huse, where each State would get one vote, to decide the outcome, 'tween the three highest vote getters, if Obama's bloc splintered.

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  76. Obama wasn't voted for; his "Electors" were. The electors would vote for a different Democrat. Hillary, of course.

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  77. Interesting reading

    Indeed.

    So if the court decides Obama is ineligible constitutionally before 15Dec, your position is that the EC trumps that determination if they feel like it, i.e., banana republic process.

    My position is that the election of Obama on 15Dec cannot happen because he's an ineligible candidate, or if they elect him anyhow, they've violated the constitution themselves, and their action is invalid.

    How about this outcome: Obama's votes on 15Dec are set aside because he's been declared ineligible, and McCain electors, even though a minority, put him into office?

    Rufus' note appeared just before I jabbed this in. I agree with that possibility. It makes more sense than my outcome suggested here.

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  78. Wach elected Federal official decides on Constitutionality, lineman. Not just the Courts.

    ?

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  79. What if we just stopped caring?

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  80. If O is declared ineligible by birth to be president then the Electoral College will not come into play as a force to elect him since by the Constitution he was ineligible to even run in the first place and would have never reached a position of having the Electoral College vote for him.

    He will be an instant footnote to history.

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  81. The Supremes won't hear it. There is no question 'of law' to be decided. The relevant bodies have determined his eligibility. If there is fraud involved then lower courts will deal with it first.

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  82. Habu, declared ineligible by who? This isn't the Roberts court, it's really the Kennedy court. You think Kennedy is going to vacate the election? You've got testimony from some Kenyan whackmobiles on one side, and Obama's birth certificate, the Honolulu hospital records, and a passport on the other.

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  83. By the Constitutional requirements Ruby which would be upheld by the Supreme Court.

    Section 2 clause 1 of the US Constitution regarding the Judiciary.

    Clause 1:

    The judicial Power shall extend to all Cases, in Law and Equity, arising under this Constitution, the Laws of the United States, and Treaties made, or which shall be made, under their Authority;--to all Cases affecting Ambassadors, other public Ministers and Consuls;--to all Cases of admiralty and maritime Jurisdiction;--to Controversies to which the United States shall be a Party;--to Controversies between two or more States;--between a State and Citizens of another State;11--between Citizens of different States,--between Citizens of the same State claiming Lands under Grants of different States, and between a State, or the Citizens thereof, and foreign States, Citizens or Subjects


    This is a case of law and equity as well as a case involving differences between the states.

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  84. I didn't read it, carefully; but it was clear my ballot was for "Electors," not Crazy John.

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  85. Habu, please look at his frikken birth certificate yourself.

    This has always been a dead end. That goes for you too, friend Bobal.

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  86. Great, a twofer.

    Look, get a move on, guys. I can't go back inside because there is the most noxious smell coming from my kitchen.

    Oh. My. God.

    (Is that elitist punctuation, willie?)

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  87. There's no place like home.

    There's no place like home.

    There's no place like home.

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  88. WASHINGTON - Ford Motor Co. CEO Alan Mulally says he'll work for $1 per year if the automaker has to take any government loan money. He also said Tuesday his company will seek money from the government, but may not need it.

    Detroit's automakers, making a second bid for $25 billion in funding, are presenting Congress with plans Tuesday to restructure their ailing companies and provide assurances that the funding will help them survive and thrive.

    Under Ford's plans, the automaker will cancel all management employees' 2009 bonuses and will not pay any merit increases for its North American salaried employees next year.

    Some members of Congress have urged the Big Three executives to take major pay cuts as part of the deal. Chrysler Chief Executive Robert Nardelli said he would work for $1 a year, and a similar commitment is expected from GM CEO Rick Wagoner.

    Mulally said in an interview Tuesday that Ford will emphasize its cost cutting efforts with the United Auto Workers union and will give much more detail to Congress than it did during a visit earlier this month.

    The company also will accelerate plans to roll out electric cars. Ford's plans call for an investment of up to $14 billion to improve fuel efficiency over the next seven years. The company said would improve the overall efficiency of its fleet by an average of 14 percent in 2009.
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    .
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    And the reason these fsckers couldn't take these steps last year and the year before that and the year before that, is?

    These fsckers should have their head handed to them and then some. They should be paying taxpayers for allowing their shit on the road, and not the other way round.

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  89. Still would need 270 votes, on the first round, to be elected by the Electoral College.

    They do not vote twice.

    If 270 electoral votes are not achieved, the House votes, one vote per State.

    In this event, the House of Representatives is limited to choosing from among the three candidates who received the most electoral votes. Each state delegation votes en bloc - its members have a single vote collectively (and the District of Columbia does not receive a vote). A candidate must receive an absolute majority of state delegation votes (currently 26) in order for that candidate to become the President-elect. Additionally, delegations from at least two-thirds of all the states must be present for voting to take place. The House continues balloting until it elects a President.

    The House of Representatives has chosen the President only twice: once under Article II, Section 1, Clause 3 (in 1801) and once under the Twelfth Amendment (in 1825).
    wiki

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  90. Madam President Pelosi, that becomes the legal limbo scenario

    If the House of Representatives has not chosen a President-elect in time for the inauguration (noon on January 20), then Section 3 of the Twentieth Amendment specifies that the Vice President-elect becomes Acting President until the House should select a President. If the winner of the vice presidential election is also not known by then, then under the Presidential Succession Act of 1947, the sitting Speaker of the House would become Acting President until either the House should select a President or the Senate should select a Vice President.

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  91. The contention, lineman, is that the Constitution leaves the selection of the President to the Electoral College. The Collegians.

    It is up to the Collegians to ascertain the candidates viability. The College and only the College has that mission. The Collegians representing their respective State Legislatures are responsible for determining each candidates' suitability. Prior to the general election.

    Doubt if a Supremes decision comes to pass, though.
    Not in time, anyway.

    And the Supremes could not remove Obama, once sworn in. I do not believe, and could not order the House to impeach him, either.

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  92. The other contention, lineman, is that when the fifty envelopes are opened on the House floor, if Obama recieves over 270 votes, he is elected.

    If the House then confirms the results

    Regardless of the Supremes decision.

    Or Biden would be President.

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  93. The question returns to how many deputies the Supremes could muster, to enforce their decision.

    Bush/Cheney are gone, on 20Jan09, to be replaced by Obama, Biden or Pelosi.

    Pick your own 'best case' scenario.

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  94. 'tis not about the birth certificate, Ruby Redinger. Not Donofrio's case. He has a good case, the question is whether the Supremes have courage. And, you might be surprised. John Paul Stevens, for instance, might surprise.

    But, who can read the mind of a woman, or a judge?

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  95. The Supreme Court's decision would be followed I think. There might be some riots. There would be some riots. But most people still have respect for the Supreme Court. A usurping Obama would be non functional. Everything would break down. No legislation would be valid. Nor order would be valid. In short, it wouldn't work.

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  96. From Egregious to Green: 5 CEOs Who Made an Environmental U-Turn

    http://www.treehugger.com/files/2008/12/egregious-green-top-5-180-ceos.php
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    Interesting to see them make the transition.

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  97. Wounded Deer Fights Back, Attacks Hunter That Shot Him, Draws Blood

    After takaing two hits from a .270, gets back up, attacks hunter, takes two more from the .270, dies.
    Hunter to hospital, deer to meat locker.

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  98. In her speech here in Perry, Ms. Palin drew 5,000 people to the Georgia National Fairgrounds. Speaking against a huge American flag, she called for Republicans to prove their vitality by rolling back the Democratic gains, starting with re-electing Mr. Chambliss.

    “Georgia,” she said, “the eyes of America are on you.”


    5,000 Greet Sarah In Georgia

    The people love Sarah. The babies smile, the old folks clap, the middle aged take heart.

    Run-off in Georgia today.

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  99. Rappers T.I., Young Jeezy and Ludacris campaign for Martin in Georgia!

    Democrat Jim Martin held rallies around the state and capped off the day in Atlanta with the help of hip-hop stars T.I., Young Jeezy and Ludacris.

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  100. Army to buy electric cars

    By Kris Osborn - Staff writer
    Posted : Tuesday Nov 25, 2008 7:26:14 EST

    Aiming to save fuel and advance alternative-energy plans, the Army, Navy and Air Force intend to buy thousands of battery-powered, 35-mile-an-hour electric cars and light trucks to provide on-base transport, senior Army officials said.

    “The Neighborhood Electric Vehicle [NEV] will be at Fort Belvoir, [Va.,] before Dec. 15. Our goal is to have the secretary [of the Army, Pete Geren] there to drive in one of the first ones,” said Paul Bollinger, deputy assistant Army secretary for energy and partnerships. “We are having bumper stickers put on and decals on the doors which say ‘Army Green, Army Strong.’ ”

    The Army plans to order the street-legal NEVs from E-Z-Go, Native American Biofuels International and other electric-car makers. E-Z-Go, which is a subsidiary of defense giant Textron, makes golf carts that are listed online at about $1,300 each.

    “We’re excited about this,” said James Cooke, CEO of Native American Bio-fuels International, Arlington, Va. “We’ve been working on alternative energy for about three-and-a-half years. We’ve innovated with Native American tribes all over the country.”

    Next year, 800 cars will be delivered and 4,000 over the next three years. Ultimately, “we should be able to go to at least 10,000 vehicles overall,” Bollinger said.

    The Army’s plan has persuaded its sister services to jump on board.

    “The good news is that the Air Force and Navy have come to us and said that they want to piggyback on the order. Previously, the Air Force was looking at low-speed vehicles, which are actually still gasoline vehicles. We’ve skipped that and we are going straight to electric. We are eliminating the fuel issue, period,” Bollinger said.

    An Air Force official confirmed his service’s involvement in the electric car purchase, but could not immediately provide details.

    The Army is moving quickly; the purchase plans were unveiled last month as part of the service’s ambitious new energy strategy, which also calls for the construction of solar and geothermal facilities.

    Bollinger said each electric car would use an average of about $400 in electricity per year, compared to the roughly $2,400 in fuel needed to run a gas-powered car, citing General Services Administration figures. Moreover, the 4,000 electric cars will save 11.5 million gallons of fuel per year, he said.

    Daniel Goure, vice president of the Lexington Institute, a Va.-based think tank, noted that the price of fuel is nearly half of its record high earlier this year.

    “In a few months, the savings that they could have expected has dropped by half,” he said.

    The first batch of vehicles will likely be leased per year from Native American Biofuels International, Bollinger said. The Army expects to continue to lease the electric cars on a yearly basis and possibly buy them down the road.

    “We will not be paying any more for the NEV than for a standard gasoline-powered vehicle,” Bollinger said.

    The NEVs, now powered by lead-acid batteries, may one day be operated by lithium batteries, which are able to store and dispense larger amounts of energy at a lighter weight compared with lead-acid batteries.

    The Army hopes to inspire a broader market for electric cars and has been telling automakers about the plans.
    .
    .
    http://www.armytimes.com/news/2008/11/army_electric_cars_112408w/

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  101. Interesting to see them make the transition.

    Coercion, not transcendence.

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  102. So, anyway, my buddy could not contain his curiosity, he went back to Avanti's.

    He spent some time with the wait staff, from the ninety minute meeting that Napolitano had with Sheriff Joe. The jist of the meeting, Napolitano offered Joe the number two spot at Homeland Security. He said yes.

    DEA, Border Patrol, Customs and Coast Guard. A bigger playground for Joe to strut his stuff in.

    One never knows, but that is the closest held rumor that I know of. Let's see if it comes true. Should know by early Feb, I imagine.

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  103. The most important news, from mat's clip ...

    The cars are going to have bumber stickers.

    “We are having bumper stickers put on and decals on the doors which say ‘Army Green, Army Strong.’ ”

    In the Army Times, that is their lead. Army Times is a Gannett subsidiary, USA Today, AZ Republic.

    There is no real depth to the story, not if it leads with bumber stickers

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  104. from RCP

    Sen. Mel Martinez (R-Fla.) announced this morning at an Orlando press conference that he will not run for re-election in 2010.

    "The inescapable truth, for me, is that the call to public service is strong, but the call to home, family and lifelong friends is even stronger," Martinez said, according to a press release. "So today, with deep love for this country and with sincere gratitude to the people who placed their trust in me, I announce that I will not run for reelection to the United States Senate."


    Wonder what kind of Florida Republican will run in his place, maybe they'll bring Mark Foley out of retirement?

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  105. I can hear habu now ...
    Sheriff Joe Arpaio = RINO

    Not a Republican putting country first.

    But then Joe was never a big Maverick fan, anyway.

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  106. World Net Daily was offering magnetic bumper stickers this year, for $4.99 each, I think it was. My "I Love Sarah" sticker was the old kind. 4 for a campaign donation of, I can't recall, maybe twenty dollars.

    Bumper stickers where really down this year. I've seen that confirmed else where. People are afraid of getting their cars keyed, I think.

    What do you think of Sheriff Joe at Homeland Security, Rat? Think he'll be allowed to do anything? Is he the kind of guy that could put up with not being allowed to do anything?

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  107. The WaPo reports
    Deputy Defense Secretary Gordon England, Gates's right-hand man in running the Pentagon day to day, is widely expected to leave his post, said the officials, one of whom noted that England's speechwriter is reportedly taking another job.

    Leading candidates to replace England include Obama campaign adviser Richard J. Danzig, who could eventually replace Gates; Pentagon transition review team co-leader Michèle A. Flournoy; and possibly former Pentagon comptroller William J. Lynn, said Obama transition officials and sources close to the transition.

    The anticipated turnover of many key positions suggests that although Gates will help provide some continuity, the status quo will not necessarily endure at the Pentagon.

    Continuity is likely to come in the form of Gates and military commanders leading the war effort in Iraq and Afghanistan, while a new deputy and team of undersecretaries would manage the Pentagon and focus on longer-range issues such as "the budget, the Quadrennial Defense Review, missile defense, relations with allies and preparation for the next crisis," said Michael O'Hanlon, a senior fellow at the Brookings Institution.

    The four undersecretaries of defense are also expected to leave, Pentagon and transition officials said. These include Undersecretary for Policy Eric S. Edelman, who has announced that he will depart by Jan. 20, with Flournoy also a candidate to replace him. John J. Young Jr., undersecretary for acquisition, technology and logistics, is "without question" leaving, a source close to the transition said, noting that Gates has publicly criticized the Pentagon's unwieldy acquisition process as shortchanging U.S. troops in the field.

    The sensitive position of undersecretary for intelligence, created by Donald H. Rumsfeld while he was leading the Pentagon, is also likely to see a leadership change, transition sources said. "There is a real issue about how to fully recuperate" that office from the Rumsfeld era, and it would require a "team player" to promote more effective cooperation with the rest of the intelligence community, one source close to the transition said. The job is currently held by retired Air Force Lt. Gen. James R. Clapper Jr.


    Gates becomes a lame duck Secretary with all new staff and a right-hand man waiting to replace him.

    A figurehead, in other words.

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  108. After the hullalabu about anthrax, the Wrotnowski case is now before Judge Scalia--

    No. 08A469

    Title: Cort Wrotnowski, Applicant
    v.
    Susan Bysiewicz, Connecticut Secretary of State

    Docketed:
    Lower Ct: Supreme Court of Connecticut
    Case Nos.: (SC 18264)

    ~~~Date~~~ ~~~~~~~Proceedings and Orders~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    Nov 25 2008 Application (08A469) for stay and/or injunction, submitted to Justice Ginsburg.

    Nov 26 2008 Application (08A469) denied by Justice Ginsburg.

    Nov 29 2008 Application (08A469) refiled and submitted to Justice Scalia.


    ~~Name~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~Address~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~Phone~~~
    Attorneys for Petitioner:
    Cort Wrotnowski 1057 North Street (202) 862-8554
    Greenwich, CT 06831
    Party name: Cort Wrotnowski
    Attorneys for Respondent:
    Richard Blumenthal Attorney General (860) 808-5316
    Office of the Attorney General
    55 Elm Street
    P.O. Box 120
    Hartford, CT 06141-0120
    Party name: Susan Bysiewicz, Connecticut Secretary of State

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  109. Joe is the King of Maricopa County politics, bob.

    Rides over mayors and police chiefs for recreation. Raided the city of Mesa's City Hall, rounding up illegal workers that were cleaning the offices.

    So the pot would have to be pretty sweet, to get him to move. A lot more toys, personnel and an unending budget.

    He'd get the fence built, the border reasonabley secured, then they'd institute comprehensive reform. Just as Obama and McCain said they would.

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  110. 20 million new citizens, the price to pay for closing the border, jeez.

    Obama's Bad Pick For Mideast Envoy

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  111. Coercion, not transcendence.
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    Interesting. They coerced to evangelize green?

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  112. "The horrible thing about the Two Minutes Hate was not that one was obliged to act a part, but that it was impossible to avoid joining in. Within thirty seconds any pretense was always unnecessary. A hideous ecstasy of fear and vindictiveness, a desire to kill, to torture, to smash faces in with a sledge hammer, seemed to flow through the whole group of people like an electric current, turning one even against one's will into a grimacing, screaming lunatic. And yet the rage that one felt was an abstract, undirected emotion which could be switched from one object to another like the flame of a blowlamp."

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  113. Some schmucks never give up.

    I have rented and driven GM cars; Buicks, Cadillacs, Pontiacs and own a 2003 Tahoe. I have also leased and owned Toyotas, Hondas, Mazdas and Mercedes.

    The GM cars are just as good as any of the foreign cars.

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  114. I have rented and driven GM cars.
    ==

    Lucky you didn't need to buy a mechanic to go with that experience.

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  115. bobal - re: Middle East envoy pick, it could have been worse, e.g., Dennis Ross.

    I also saw that article about Gordon Brown's govt arresting opposition party member w/o cause - UK is like a rotting johnny house waiting for the bulldozer to hit it.

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  116. Interesting. They coerced to evangelize green?

    Coerced by the green tide to save their market.

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  117. "The horrible thing about the Two Minutes Hate was not that one was obliged to act a part, but that it was impossible to avoid joining in...

    Sounds like a conclave of progressives discussing global warming deniers.

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  118. ...They seem to consist of pressuring Israel and appeasing her adversaries.

    Kurzers's views. He'll fit right in with Hillary, she of the political celebrity. Saving the counry, one kiss and hug at a time.

    So we don't have to. Bless her.

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  119. Georgia - U.S. Senate

    Candidate Votes

    Saxby Chambliss - R Incumbent 1,069,643 58%

    Jim Martin - D 765,118 42%

    Chambliss wins big--Palin Power! (and lower black turnout)(and fear of dem 60 vote Senate)


    I think our American cars are as good as the others now too. I agree with Whit.

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  121. A hideous ecstasy of fear and vindictiveness, a desire to kill, to torture, to smash faces in with a sledge hammer, seemed to flow through the whole group of people like an electric current, turning one even against one's will into a grimacing, screaming lunatic.

    or, a group of San Francisco faggots led by Karel, discussing the Mormon Church, whom he wanted to cleanse from the country. (He, also, wanted Joe the Plumber dead)

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  122. Coerced by the green tide to save their market.
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    Fortunately we have you to pollute and give a hoot. :)

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  123. "You Georgians are going to have the opportunity to determine the direction this country is going to take"

    -SP

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  124. I think our American cars are as good as the others now too. I agree with Whit.

    I'd like to think so.

    I bought a new Reliant stationwagon for my wife in '85. I will never buy another Chrysler product, even jeeps.

    Used Toyotas have been cheap and reliable. They're mostly made in US anyhow, so I feel no guilt there whatsoever. Screw the UAW and the big three management.

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  125. Fortunately we have you to pollute and give a hoot. :)

    Right, mat.

    Count your blessings. :-)

    Owls, btw, are rank. I've yet to find a good spotted owl recipe.

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  126. Screw the UAW and the big three management.

    OMG

    I'm starting to sound like mat.

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  127. Wonder what kind of Florida Republican will run in his place, maybe they'll bring Mark Foley out of retirement?

    Tue Dec 02, 06:09:00 PM EST
    Rat

    And, the answer is......---

    JEB BUSH!

    Jeb Bush Ponders Florida Senate Run

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  128. Plymouth Reliants burn GREAT!

    Mine burned at Genesee, and a trucker told me he could see the smoke from the top of the Lewiston Hill, miles and miles away!

    Empty metal shell, all that was left.

    Fun listening to ammo in the back go off, too. And the full gas tank explode.

    Deep dark black smoke. Highway closed.

    Good times.

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  129. LT,

    What do you have against the sustainable green approach? It is an image problem? Doesn't go with the swaggering chauvinistic cowboy image? Are you that insecure. :D

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  130. It's that word 'sustainable' that you slip in there, Mat. When we're not quite there yet. Not even close, really.

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  131. My dad had an '85 Reliant sedan. Got passed down to my youngest brother in the end. Man, what a piece of crap. My brother called it 'urban camouflage'.

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  132. So what does that mean, Bob. We go on binging on fossil fuels?

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  133. But they burn great. I was only 15 miles after picking it up at the repair shop in Moscow, when she went up in flames.

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  134. The smart money is on nuclear power, Mat, that's what I've been hearing :)

    And drill, drill, drill, and grow, grow, grow ethanol. And, yes, electric cars.

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  135. She looked a lot like This at the end. But nothing left of the tires.

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  136. The smart money is on nuclear power, Mat, that's what I've been hearing :)
    ==

    Stephen Harper might soon face a governing Green coalition from the opposition bench. You're not going to get nuke fuel from Canada. This issue will come to the foreground and you will lose your main supplier. Better not push your luck.

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  137. Imagine retrofitting a dozen of these on every skyscraper:

    http://www.ecogeek.org/content/view/2337/

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  138. What do you have against the sustainable green approach?

    For the most part it's fraud.

    Promoted by rent seekers and tax eaters.

    Preying on gullible kids with the mindset of rats following a pied piper like Gore.

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  139. Heard Saxby Chamblis on Sean Hannity radio show while going to vote. Chambliss was sincerely effusive in his praise for Sarah Palin's ability to "fire up the base" and get them out to vote. As noted by bobal, with no blacks to vote for, the blacks stayed home, in dramatic contrast to November.

    On a different note, this is an interesting read/perspective on Bombay (no longer using Mumbai, after learning it's the name of a Hindu goddess and noting that even the Time of London still uses Bombay!).

    Al-Qaeda 'hijack' led to Mumbai attack

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  140. For the most part it's fraud.
    ==

    What's the fraud?

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  141. Check out their rock music-infused promotional video.

    From your whiz-bang turbine link.

    I like Pratt & Whitney's promo better...In thrust we trust!

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  142. France sets plan to double green share of electricity market

    PARIS (AFP) — France on Monday published details of plans to double the share of renewable sources in its electricity market to meet a 2020EU objective.

    Solar will spearhead the challenge to give renewables a 23-percent share of the electricity mix by 2020, compared with 10.3 percent in 2005, Ecology Minister Jean-Louis Borloo said, a she unveiled the 50-point plan.

    "Solar is the big one," said Borloo. "In industrial terms, and in terms of lower industrial costs,it's there that we have the biggest capacity."

    He contended that solar energy would be competitive with other sources "around 2020."

    One measure will be to build 300 megawatts of capacity through large sun farms that will be set up in each region. The size of each facility will depend on local geography and exposure to the Sun.

    Supermarkets and other installations with large roofs will be encouraged to install photovoltaic panels -- power-generating solar cells -- with the help of a special feed-in tariff.

    Nuclear currently accounts for around80 percent of France's electricity needs, by far the highest proportion of any country in the world.

    France ranks fourth in the European Union (EU) for installed solar capacity, after Germany, Spain and Italy. Capacity rose from six MW in 2006 to 18 MW in mid-2008.

    In wind power, the goal is to increase the amount of installed capacity bya factor of 10, from 2,500 MW in 2007 to 25,000 MW in 2020, with the backing of a new roster of laws.

    A "Renewable Heat Fund" will be launched next year to support production of heat from a variety of sources, including geothermal, biogas and solar thermal collectors,which use the Sun's heat to warm water in rooftop tanks.

    According to France's energy agency, Ademe, the market for renewable energy could reach 24 billion euros (30.24 billion dollars) in 2012 and foster 120,000 jobs.

    The European Union (EU) has set a target of reducing its carbon emissions by 20 percent by 2020, with renewables accounting for 20 percent of power needs.

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  143. Caitlin Seeley, Abilene field organizer for the advocacy group Environment Texas, outlined the Austin-based organization's ambitious goals at a news conference at Frontier Texas!

    ...

    "We need to do much more to create a Texas market" for renewable and energy-efficient products, Seeley said.

    How Texas addresses the issue will determine whether the state enters "the frontier of clean energy, or gets left behind," she said.


    Future Bright in Texas

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  144. Saturday, November 29, 2008

    Soetoro Divorce Papers Reveal Obama Was Adopted

    Orly Taitz wrote: (she's a lawyer for Keyes)----

    We just got Soetoro divorce papers. Those show that the couple has 2 children, which means that Mr. Soetoro adopted BO and the school record, showing him as Barry Soetoro is correct. In his State bar application he stated that he never had any other names, he committed perjury, since he made the statement under oath. I believe that the application to be a candidate on the ballot was made under oath also and there is an ample evidence of perjury. Maybe an investigation can be started by a local DA or police or sheriff (starting from bottom up) . I called a former LA assistant DA. Maybe you know smbd in law enforcement, their investigation can give us more info, then the courts.Does anybody know anybody in law enforcement that will be willing to help?

    Orly

    Orly Taitz DDS Esq

    26302 La Paz ste 211
    Mission Viejo Ca 92691

    29839 S. Margarita Pkwy
    Rancho Santa Margarita Ca 92688

    ph. w 949-586-8110 c-949-683-5411
    fax 949-586-2082

    ------------

    So, do we call him BO, or BS?

    :)

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  145. White Russians Arise, This Time at a Bowling Alley

    AMONG the significant dates in the history of Kahlúa, the Mexican coffee liqueur, surely March 6, 1998, rates a mention.

    That was the release date of “The Big Lebowski,” the Coen Brothers movie about an aging slacker who calls himself the Dude, and who, after a thug urinates on his prized rug, becomes caught up in a Chandleresque mystery.

    Played with slouchy brio by Jeff Bridges, the Dude’s chief pursuits involve bowling, avoiding work and drinking White Russians, the sweet cocktail made with vodka, Kahlúa and cream or milk.

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  146. About time to freshen up your recall w/a rewatch, Mat!

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