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Friday, November 29, 2013

The US Public is waking up to the Israeli-Saudi Axis of Con



Iran: It's Not About Nuclear Weapons

It's actually about Israel and Saudi Arabia.
Sheldon Richman | November 28, 2013

You’re thinking: Of course it’s about nuclear weapons. Everyone says so.
Well, not everyone does. But it isn’t a numbers game. As William O. Beeman points out in the Huffington Post,
There is a strange irony in President Obama’s announcement of the temporary agreement. He mentioned the term “nuclear weapon” multiple times in his announcement, implying that Iran was on a path to develop such a weapon. One wonders if he actually believes this or if his repeated implied accusation was a rhetorical device designed to placate his hard-line critics.
The president must know by this time that there is no evidence that Iran has or ever had a nuclear weapons program. Every relevant intelligence agency in the world has verified this fact for more than a decade. Two U.S. National Intelligence Estimates that were made public in 2007 and 2011 underscored this. The International Atomic Energy Agency has also consistently asserted that Iran has not diverted any nuclear material for any military purpose.
Even Israeli intelligence analysts agree that Iran is “not a danger” to Israel.
Ironically, when critics of the interim agreement say Iran gave up little, they are right. “By yielding to the P5+1 demands, in essence Iran has allowed itself to be persuaded to stop temporarily doing what it never intended to do — make a nuclear weapon,” Beeman writes. “The United States and its allies … made the improbable leap that having enriched uranium would immediately lead to a nuclear weapon. This is an immense mistake — so large that one must suspect that it is essentially hyped for public consumption.”
In return for agreeing to stop doing what it had no intention of doing, Iran will get the slightest relief from the economic sanctions that inflict so much suffering on the people.
There’s another irony. The reactionaries on all sides – including in the U.S. Congress – oppose rapprochement between Iran and the United States for some of the same reasons.
Look at the leading opponents of the agreement: Israel and Saudi Arabia. They are among the U.S. government’s closest allies in the Middle East. For overlapping reasons, both would hate to see the 34-year-old cold war between the United States and Iran come to an end.
Saudi Arabia, which is well-equipped militarily by the United States, is an Arab Sunni Muslim kingdom. Iran is the large, influential Persian state dominated by the other side in the Islamic schism: Shiism. (What Iran calls the Persian Gulf, Arabs call the Arabian Gulf.) Iran was a U.S. client-state until 1979, when the Islamic Revolution overthrew the repressive shah, whom the U.S. government had restored to power after ousting a democratic regime in 1953. Saudi Arabia, which  enjoys protection under America’s nuclear umbrella, does not want to see Iran back in the good graces of the United States, since it would diminish its prominence in the Middle East.
Israel, the world’s largest recipient of U.S. military armaments, a nuclear power, and thus the most potent country in the region, has used its might to subjugate the Palestinians, systematically steal their land, and intimidate its neighbors, for example, by periodically invading Lebanon. Its leadership needs to manufacture enemies to distract the world from its inhumane policies, which the U.S. government, pushed by Israel’s lobby, enables. Thus the Iranians, who have made repeated peace overtures, are portrayed as an “existential threat,” which is absurd: Even if one were to make all the fantastic assumptions required to see Iran with a nuclear weapon, what good would it be against Israel, which has hundreds of nukes, some of them on invulnerable submarines?
Yoel Guzansky, a former member of Israel’s National Security Council, revealed much when he condemned the interim agreement as giving “Iran … a signature that it’s a legitimate country.” How hypocritical.
The Iranian people, which includes a large, educated middle class, would welcome friendship with America. Both they and the American people would prosper from trade, tourism, and other personal contact.
As a bonus, such friendship would inevitably weaken Iran’s theocracy – which is why the hardliners on all sides are determined to prevent it.

This column originally appeared on the Future of Freedom Foundation.a

169 comments:

  1. Israel Saudi Axis of Con, (ISAC)

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    1. An amazing article of distortion and smoke.

      "The president must know by this time that there is no evidence that Iran has or ever had a nuclear weapons program"

      Amazing this line, a bold faced lie if ever one was.....

      This line? Is something out of Alicevin Wonderland

      "Even Israeli intelligence analysts agree that Iran is “not a danger” to Israel."

      I could go on, but it's waste of time.

      Deuce you live in an alternative universe.

      The Mullahs of Iran, and it's Revolutionary Guards military forces (including Hezbollah and Hamas), are in fact murdering civilians every day. In Iran, Lebanon, Syria, Iraq, across the middle east and the Americas, these folks are not a force for good.

      There is no trying to convince you otherwise.

      You stand with the Mullahs of Iran.

      I do not.

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    2. We all stand with the United States

      You do not

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    3. Rat? You stand with whoever pays you to stand. You are a hired gun. No morals, no ethics, no honor.

      Your opinion?

      Worthless. As is you as a man.

      You are a shameless character.

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    4. Retired FBI agent Robert Levinson on Tuesday became the longest-held hostage in US history,

      Love the way this gets no coverage here...

      Says a lot .

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    5. You have never 'made the case'
      Because there is no case to be made.

      While it is true that Mr Robert Levinson was once a FBI agent, he was not one when he went to Iran, so to describe him as an FBI agent, misleading at best, fraudulent in all reality.

      He is not being held by the Iranian government, a least there is no evidence of that in the public realm.
      If you or Israel have EVIDENCE that he is, make it public..

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    6. WiO and Allen are sitting here bitching about Iran's nuclear program, but Ehud Olmert admitted that Israel had a nuclear program too. "That's a nice civilization you got there, America, be a shame if something happened to it, capice?"

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    7. Cleveland — Prosecutors said yesterday they may seek the death penalty against Ariel Castro, the man accused of imprisoning three women at his home for a decade, as police charged that he impregnated one of his captives at least five times and then starved her and punched her in the belly until she miscarried.

      The horrific allegations were contained in a police report that also said one of the women, Amanda Berry, was forced to give birth in a plastic kiddie pool.

      Cuyahoga County prosecutor Timothy McGinty said his office will decide whether to bring aggravated murder charges punishable by death in connection with the pregnancies that were terminated by force.

      “Capital punishment must be reserved for those crimes that are truly the worst examples of human conduct,” he said. “The reality is we still have brutal criminals in our midst who have no respect for the rule of law or human life.”

      Castro, a 52-year-old former school bus driver, is being held on $8 million bail under a suicide watch in jail, where he is charged with rape and kidnapping.


      What did the Federal government know about Ariel Castro and "When Did They Know It"?

      Why did GW Bush and Barack Obama allow Ariel Castro to hold those women for a decade?

      That is the analogy, Fünfte Kolonne Kot

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    8. Why did the state of Ohio allow Ariel Castro to hold those women?
      Why did the people of Ohio allow it to occur?

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    9. From 1978 to 1995, Kaczynski sent 16 bombs to targets including universities and airlines, killing three people and injuring 23. Kaczynski sent a letter to The New York Times on April 24, 1995 and promised "to desist from terrorism" if the Times or the Washington Post published his manifesto, Industrial Society and Its Future (also called the "Unabomber Manifesto"), in which he argued that his bombings were extreme but necessary to attract attention to the erosion of human freedom necessitated by modern technologies requiring large-scale organization.

      The Unabomber was the target of one of the Federal Bureau of Investigation's costliest investigations.


      Seventeen years it took the Federals to find Ted Kaczynski and he was in the United States, the whole time.
      Assuredly the FBI is better at criminal investigations than the Iranian equivalent.

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    10. David Amaya reunited with mother Kathy Amaya after being separated for 34 years: reports
      The two reunited in San Diego this weekend and will spend Thanksgiving together for the first time since Amaya was abducted by his father in 1979 and taken to Mexico.

      By Irving Dejohn / NEW YORK DAILY NEWS


      http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/reunited-family-spend-thanksgiving-reports-article-1.1528093#ixzz2m2ok4Z7x

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    11. Teresita RedingerFri Nov 29, 09:10:00 AM EST
      WiO and Allen are sitting here bitching about Iran's nuclear program, but Ehud Olmert admitted that Israel had a nuclear program too. "That's a nice civilization you got there, America, be a shame if something happened to it, caprice?"


      Typical of you Ms T.

      Distortion and lies.

      What does Iran's nuclear program have to do with the price of tea in China? Nothing

      Your comment about Israel having a nuke program? So what? If they have one, they have never used it, nor threatened anyone with it.

      Your comment " "That's a nice civilization you got there, America, be a shame if something happened to it, caprice?" shows the depths of your insanity and vile. Israel, Allen and I have never threatened the USA with nuclear attack.

      What we have said is simple. Allowing Iran to go nuclear could set off a Genie out of the bottle that could have blowback.

      And you, a supposed "analyst" for the US military.

      Either you are a lying sack of shit? Or you are one DUMB affirmative action broad.

      Which is it?

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    12. desert ratFri Nov 29, 09:03:00 AM EST
      He is not being held by the Iranian government, a least there is no evidence of that in the public realm.
      If you or Israel have EVIDENCE that he is, make it public..



      Your compassion speaks volumes, When will you register as a agent of Iran?

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    13. Fünfte Kolonne Kot has now abandoned Robert Levinson.

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    14. Maybe you should go to Iran and talk to your handlers....

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    15. Fünfte Kolonne Kot has now abandoned Robert Levinson.

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    16. Happy Hanukkah!!!

      Israel IS.

      No matter what a few Israel hating, Jewish hating trolls think...

      Call us names? We've been called worse by far better....

      Try to kill us? We'll shoot back, we aint our granddaddy's Jews.

      I know it's tough cookies for you, Jews with an attitude.

      But sorry if your attempts at putting us all into cattle cars failed, sorry if your efforts to paint us as 2nd class citizens failed.

      I am JUST as much an American as any of you.

      PERIOD

      Don't like it?

      LUMP IT.

      And the stated policies of the United States of America side with me about the Government of Iran, not you.

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    17. Fünfte Kolonne Kot continues to have abandoned Robert Levinson.

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    19. He wanted to discus the case at 08:47:00 AM EST.

      Now other things are on his mind.

      No focus, no resolve.

      That is why he is the Kot, not the Teamleitern, of the Fünfte Kolonne

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    20. And you, a supposed "analyst" for the US military.

      Either you are a lying sack of shit? Or you are one DUMB affirmative action broad.

      Which is it?


      I analyze broken torpedoes and Blackhawk fuel management systems, order replacement chips, transistors, etc, slide 'em in, and then analyze the stuff again to verify it works, hang an "A" tag on it and send it on it's merry. It's a great job, because everyone else's position is being automated. When robots can fix themselves, then I'll be ready to retire. There are CASREP'd helicopters that don't fly and subs that don't leave the pier until I do what I do. So take your affirmative action broad sucking-the-teat-of-the-taxpayer stuff and stick it where the sun don't shine, bozo.

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    21. Yep sounds like you are a affirmative action broad...

      never could get a real job?

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    22. desert ratFri Nov 29, 09:56:00 AM EST
      He wanted to discus the case at 08:47:00 AM EST.
      Now other things are on his mind.
      No focus, no resolve.

      Projecting Herr Rodent?

      desert ratFri Nov 29, 08:43:00 AM EST We all stand with the United States
      desert ratFri Nov 29, 09:10:00 AM EST Cleveland — Prosecutors said yesterday
      desert ratFri Nov 29, 09:12:00 AM EST Why did the state of Ohio allow Ariel Castro
      desert ratFri Nov 29, 09:17:00 AM EST From 1978 to 1995, Kaczynski sent 16 bombs
      desert ratFri Nov 29, 09:31:00 AM EST David Amaya reunited with mother Kathy Amaya
      desert ratFri Nov 29, 09:36:00 AM EST Fünfte Kolonne Kot has now abandoned Robert Levinson.
      AnonymousFri Nov 29, 09:47:00 AM EST Manna from heaven, that was the Ancient Aliens"
      desert ratFri Nov 29, 10:03:00 AM EST Poor Robert Levinson, he has fallen off the Kot's radar.
      desert ratFri Nov 29, 10:16:00 AM EST The Israeli territorial expansionism to gain Lebensraum ("living space")
      Victor KlempererFri Nov 29, 10:18:00 AM EST “To me the Zionists,



      No focus, no resolve.


      LOL



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  2. The biggest loser of the scam: Ordinary Americans.

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    1. Ordinary Americans have started to fight back. We first saw it with the drive to go to war in Syria.

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    2. Well that excludes you...

      Ordinary "Americans" don't invent fake Catholic lesbian persona's and lie about themselves for years.

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  3. Those genuine American to the bone working stiffs and not The Conga Line and patriot-pretenders that control DC and the flag waving muthafukas with their pretend service and pretend journals of history, phony princes and career perma-victims.

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    1. Sibelius is moving the goalposts on her doc-in-a-box...now only promises that on Saturday it will be a "significantly different user experience" at healthcare.gov than on October 1 when six people signed up.

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    2. There's evidently a "war" going on within the administration about how positively the website's progress should be discussed.

      Sebilius is excited, and wants to shout the improvement from the rooftops. The White House is much more cautious; they don't want to drive so much traffic that it crashes the site again over the Thanksgiving Holiday.

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    3. Then nobody will sign up, and that will be significantly different.

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    4. I think the White House is looking at the slow, steady growth in daily traffic, and is satisfied with the direction, and velocity.

      On the other hand, this is Sebelius' baby, and, after getting beat up considerably, she's itching to spread a little "good news."

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  4. The Democrats, a party that is just as ate up with neocons as the republicans, are bound and determined to nominate shrillary - giving us a choice in 2016 between neocon 1, and neocon 2.

    Deemocracie is hard.

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    1. And, I don't think Obama should be given too much credit, here, either. Both he and Kerry were pleading for permission to bomb Syria, and were stunned, I think, by the American people's intransigence in saying, "Hell, No."

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    2. No matter how bad the economy, there's enormous money to be made in "War."

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    3. And, let's be realistic; the only reason the neocons aren't in full-on control, right now, is that the tea party roared onto the scene, and disrupted the power structure in the Republican Party.

      The neocons were smart enough to "throw a bone" to the working class from time to time. A Medicare Part D, here, a minimum wage increase, there, etc. The tea party stopped all that in the republican party. As a result, you ended up with a second Obama term. If the republicans can't beat back some of the tea party craziness, you could see another Democrat in the White House, after Obama. And, it's possible, although not likely, that it could be a "social justice liberal" democrat.

      Things aren't really looking good for the neocons, at this minute.

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    4. I've had the tv on mute most of the morning (as usual,) but one thing I haven't noticed was any Obamacare Horror Stories about website crashes on Thanksgiving Day (a possibility of which the White House was very concerned.) Of course, these stories could start seeping out later in the day.

      If something "extremely interesting" doesn't occur in the Middle East, I look for the next election to be fought out, to some extent, over the minimum wage (a subject to which Obama has given a little lip service, but not much of anything else.)

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    5. SEATTLE (AP) - The election fight over a $15 minimum wage for airport workers in SeaTac isn't close to ending, despite the ballot measure's apparent victory.

      Common Sense SeaTac, a business-backed group that opposed the initiative, announced Tuesday it is requesting a recount.

      The initiative, which would require a $15 minimum wage and a handful of paid sick days for about 6,500 workers, was poised to pass by 77 votes out of 6,001 counted. The election results were scheduled to be certified Tuesday afternoon.

      . . .

      The proposition is also facing a court challenge, led by Alaska Airlines' owner, Alaska Air Group Inc. The airline is challenging whether an initiative can give the city authority over the airport, which is operated by the Port of Seattle.

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    6. No matter how bad the economy, there's enormous money to be made in "War."

      That's why Dubya wouldn't let anyone see the caskets coming home. Might hurt the bottom line.

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  5. Numbers 1:46 says the Exodus consisted of exactly 603,550 men aged twenty and up. If you add their wives, children, the elderly, and the Egyptian hangers on, you're talking about two million people on the road. The entire population of Egypt at the time was three million, and THEY had the whole Nile river to drink. So yeah, maybe your two million Hebrews had manna to chow on, but what did they wash it down with? Morons who make up stories like this always forget about logistics.

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    1. WiO: Your comment " "That's a nice civilization you got there, America, be a shame if something happened to it, caprice?" shows the depths of your insanity and vile. Israel, Allen and I have never threatened the USA with nuclear attack.

      ALLEN: Israelis are well versed in history and Obama will not be the first emperor to get a face full of Jewish spit. Israel cannot win a war conventionally with the US. But we don't need to, because we can destroy your civilization.

      WIO: America will pay a penalty for lying and cheating the very allies that stood tall with it for decades.

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    2. Manna from heaven, that was the Ancient Aliens"
      They supplied 'em with water, too.

      Those two million folk, wandering in the desert or 40 years.

      Maybe that is why Bibi is a secularist, he does not believe that bullshit.

      What strongman would?

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    3. O believers, when you encounter the unbelievers marching to battle, turn not your backs to them. Whoso turns his back that day to them, unless withdrawing to fight again or removing to join another host, he is laden with the burden of God’s anger, and his refuge is Hell—an evil homecoming!

      —Koran, Surah VIII, Anfal (‘The Spoils of War’),
      quoted by Supreme Leader Ali Khamenei in his speech
      to the Basij and Revolutionary Guards at the Grand Mosque
      of Ruhollah Khomeini, November 20, 2013

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    4. Ms T: Morons who make up stories like this always forget about logistics.

      And yet you quote from the Jewish Scriptures on a daily basis...

      don't have a life?

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    6. He wanted to discus the Robert Levinson case at 08:47:00 AM EST.

      Now other things are on his mind.

      No focus, no resolve.

      That is why is the Kot, not the Teamleitern, of the Fünfte Kolonne

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    7. And yet you quote from the Jewish Scriptures on a daily basis...

      I'll give WiO and allen this, when they don't know what to do, just like the children of Israel below Mt Horeb, they resort to the Brazen Bull.

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    8. Wow, Rat, calling the kettle black?

      Should I just invent several dozen fake sign on's like you?

      And post nonsense on a minute by minute basis?


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    9. Fünfte Kolonne Kot wanted to discus the Robert Levinson case at 08:47:00 AM EST.

      Now other things are on his mind.

      No focus, no resolve.

      That is why he is the Kot, not the Teamleitern, of the Fünfte Kolonne

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    10. desert ratFri Nov 29, 09:56:00 AM EST
      He wanted to discus the case at 08:47:00 AM EST.
      Now other things are on his mind.
      No focus, no resolve.

      Projecting Herr Rodent?

      desert ratFri Nov 29, 08:43:00 AM EST We all stand with the United States
      desert ratFri Nov 29, 09:10:00 AM EST Cleveland — Prosecutors said yesterday
      desert ratFri Nov 29, 09:12:00 AM EST Why did the state of Ohio allow Ariel Castro
      desert ratFri Nov 29, 09:17:00 AM EST From 1978 to 1995, Kaczynski sent 16 bombs
      desert ratFri Nov 29, 09:31:00 AM EST David Amaya reunited with mother Kathy Amaya
      desert ratFri Nov 29, 09:36:00 AM EST Fünfte Kolonne Kot has now abandoned Robert Levinson.
      AnonymousFri Nov 29, 09:47:00 AM EST Manna from heaven, that was the Ancient Aliens"
      desert ratFri Nov 29, 10:03:00 AM EST Poor Robert Levinson, he has fallen off the Kot's radar.
      desert ratFri Nov 29, 10:16:00 AM EST The Israeli territorial expansionism to gain Lebensraum ("living space")
      Victor KlempererFri Nov 29, 10:18:00 AM EST “To me the Zionists,



      No focus, no resolve.


      LOL

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  6. Poor Robert Levinson, he has fallen off the Kot's radar.

    Levinson's utilitarian value to the Fünfte Kolonne has been utilized, now it is off to character assassination for the Fünfte Kolonne Kot

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  7. Maybe the Fünfte Kolonne Kot would rather discuss ....


    The Israeli territorial expansionism to gain Lebensraum ("living space")
    That being a law of nature for all healthy and vigorous peoples of superior races ...

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    1. “To me the Zionists, who want to go back to the Jewish state of A.D. 70 (destruction of Jerusalem by Titus) are just as offensive as the Nazis.

      With their nosing after blood, their ancient "cultural roots," ...
      their partly canting, partly obtuse winding back of the world they are altogether a match for the National Socialists.


      That is the fantastic thing about the National Socialists,...
      that they simultaneously share in a community of ideas with Soviet Russia and with Zion.”

      ― Victor Klemperer, I Will Bear Witness: A Diary of the Nazi Years, 1933-1941

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    2. Not bad from a guy who squats on 350 prime bottom acres in AZ...

      Got enough living space?

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    3. "National Socialists,...
      ... they simultaneously share in a community of ideas with Soviet Russia and with Zion.”


      Wow!

      bob

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    4. Poor Robert Levinson, he has fallen off the Kot's radar.

      Levinson's utilitarian value to the Fünfte Kolonne has been utilized, now it is off to the Ad Hominem for the Fünfte Kolonne Kot

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    5. desert ratFri Nov 29, 09:56:00 AM EST
      He wanted to discus the case at 08:47:00 AM EST.
      Now other things are on his mind.
      No focus, no resolve.

      Projecting Herr Rodent?

      desert ratFri Nov 29, 08:43:00 AM EST We all stand with the United States
      desert ratFri Nov 29, 09:10:00 AM EST Cleveland — Prosecutors said yesterday
      desert ratFri Nov 29, 09:12:00 AM EST Why did the state of Ohio allow Ariel Castro
      desert ratFri Nov 29, 09:17:00 AM EST From 1978 to 1995, Kaczynski sent 16 bombs
      desert ratFri Nov 29, 09:31:00 AM EST David Amaya reunited with mother Kathy Amaya
      desert ratFri Nov 29, 09:36:00 AM EST Fünfte Kolonne Kot has now abandoned Robert Levinson.
      AnonymousFri Nov 29, 09:47:00 AM EST Manna from heaven, that was the Ancient Aliens"
      desert ratFri Nov 29, 10:03:00 AM EST Poor Robert Levinson, he has fallen off the Kot's radar.
      desert ratFri Nov 29, 10:16:00 AM EST The Israeli territorial expansionism to gain Lebensraum ("living space")
      Victor KlempererFri Nov 29, 10:18:00 AM EST “To me the Zionists,



      No focus, no resolve.


      LOL

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  8. End the OccupationFri Nov 29, 10:28:00 AM EST

    Well even if the Kot does not want to discuss the Israeli territorial expansionism to gain Lebensraum ("living space") ...
    we'll do it without him.

    Home Demolitions: By the Numbers

    Since 1967, Israel has destroyed approximately 27,000 Palestinian structures in the occupied territories (the West Bank, East Jerusalem, and Gaza Strip), including more than 24,000 homes, according to ICAHD.
    Since the renewal of negotiations in August 2013, Israel has destroyed approximately 25 Palestinian homes, in addition to dozens of other structures, leaving approximately 200 people homeless.

    According to the UN, between January and September 2013, 862 Palestinians were displaced by Israeli demolitions, compared to 886 (including 468 children) in all of 2012.

    In 2012, a total of 600 Palestinian structures were demolished by Israel in the occupied territories, including at least 189 homes, according to ICAHD. This figure doesn’t include “self-demolitions” whereby Palestinians destroy their own homes rather than have Israel do it and charge them an additional fine.


    One Bedouin village, Al-Araqib, in the Negev desert in the south of Israel, has been destroyed more than 50 times by Israel since July 2010.

    Between 2005 and 2012, Israel demolished approximately 1500 Palestinian homes due to owners lacking hard-to-obtain construction permits.

    Between 1993 and 2000, when the Oslo Accords were being negotiated between Israel and the Palestine Liberation Organization, Israel destroyed almost 1700 Palestinian homes in the occupied territories.

    Immediately following Israel’s occupation of the West Bank, East Jerusalem, and Gaza in 1967, approximately 6000 Palestinian homes were demolished, including four entire villages in the Latrun area, along with dozens of homes in the Mughrabi Quarter of Jerusalem’s Old City, which were destroyed to make way for a plaza for the Western Wall. In 1971, between 2000 and 6000 Palestinian homes were destroyed in Gaza in an effort to pacify the newly occupied territory.


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    1. End the OccupationFri Nov 29, 10:33:00 AM EST

      During Israel’s creation (1948-49),
      Zionist and then Israeli forces expelled approximately 750,000 Palestinian Arabs from their ancestral lands
      in order to create a Jewish majority state of Israel.

      In the process, more than 400 Palestinian population centers were systematically destroyed,
      including thousands of homes, businesses, and houses of worship

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  9. desert ratFri Nov 29, 12:06:00 AM EST


    "No, we all did not FEEL betrayed.

    What a crock of shit."


    YOU ARE WRONG RAT!! I know because I am a potato; salt of the earth.

    I think it is interesting that there is much consternation in the Marine claims followed by much glee when those claims are contradicted. Part of it is that many of you place a lot of credence on the fact that one served in the military and having served in the USMC is, like, really, cool and prestigious. Somehow have been Military gives ones views great significance. Unfortunately you don't convey such importance to taters that can make a post.

    Sad!

    Hanging out in places like this you do get to know the people. Rat, you might post under many different names but we all know it is you. Heck, at one point you were running a horse publication. Trish was a Generals wife (though much more than a significant other), Bob a farmer who likes literature, Rufus an insurance guy, T a computer tech (sort of), WiO a importer/exporter kinda guy (Candy according to Rat), Allen a commercial real estate man, Quirk, I'm guessing (as I am, in truth, with all the others) a retired Auto exec (marketing I would think). BUT, as I tell my kids you never know who is on the other end of the keyboard. Being a potato has helped shield me from potential harm (Habu and Matsuelah made direct threats) but some of you have an inkling of who I am, my character anyway. There is a reality to the folk here.

    In the end, if a Marine (1 of 9 even) says "Israel is great and should occupy all of Eretz Israel" it does not differ from a Candyman and Farmer Fudd saying the same thing, or a disguised Rat railing "NOT"! But it does add a shade or grey to the character we experience regularly putting the bytes on my screen.

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    1. Your comprehension is failing you, Ash. No one really gave a shit whether allen was a Marine, or not. The salient fact was that he was a lying piece of shit, that viciously attacked, and demeaned, others who had opinions different than his own.

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    2. I post behind a layer of OPDEC by necessity, which is reaffirmed again and again by the likes of WiO and Bob who try to hurt others with what personal information they think they know. Don't like it, Ash? Tough titties.

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    3. Rufus you dubious lies about your "Marine" status is just shitty.

      You fake Vets get me....

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    4. Your comprehension is failing you, Ash. No one really gave a shit whether allen was a Marine, or not.

      I don't care either, but I can't stomach hypocrisy. Stolen valor indeed.

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    5. No, Potato Head, the "Marine" was telling us the "we", meaning he and Irael would destroy civilization, with its nuclar arsenal.

      Then a quick search of a term used by another Israeli contributor, Methuselah was researched.
      That term being the Samson Option.
      This cursory investigation showed that here was such an "Option" and that the Israel HAD IN FACT utilized it in the past.

      That episode leading to Jonathon Pollard's life term in Federal prison.

      Whatever lessons that you may have gained by the exposure of the truth from the revelation that "allen" is a Fünfte Kolonne von Teamleitern, provides no validity that we all felt we were betrayed by Ms T.

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    6. heh heh, I'm not complaining about the anonomousness of it all, not at all. It is all, as rat is wont to say, entertaining. It is most entertaining when there is blood in the water as the fight gets real. Rufus, you gave a shit, a really big shit, about the marine claims of Habu and Allen. So much so you worked real hard to uncover the fraud. You seem a bit sensitive about his insult - touch a nerve did it?

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    7. Teresita RedingerFri Nov 29, 10:45:00 AM EST
      Your comprehension is failing you, Ash. No one really gave a shit whether allen was a Marine, or not.
      I don't care either, but I can't stomach hypocrisy. Stolen valor indeed.




      LOL

      Now that's funny

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    8. Yes, Ash, I'm proud of my service. The stolen valor shit was a step too far. I suspected from the first (if you go back and search, you'll see) that allen was not an ex Marine, but I more or less held fire. It wasn't until he started insulting me, personally, that I bothered to ask him a few non-googleable questions that any Marine could have answered instantly.

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    9. my tougue is my potatoie cheek rat. T sucked many in with her lesbo schtick and it pissed a few folk off. Deuce, the successful bon vivant ladies man ex-cold war military man with a driver is probably some fat fuck still living in his parents basement.

      right deuce of the 2164th ;)

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    10. And, as far as "working hard," that wasn't "hard work," at all. I merely typed in a couple of questions off the top of my head. Took about a minute.

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    11. "I'm proud of my service."

      Yeah, and Politicians the nation over are "proud of their (public) service" as well!

      'Thank you for your service! No, thank YOU for your service'

      PC crap really.

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    12. Stolen valour - bad! Stolen gayness - meh!

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    13. Running away from your country, rather than fight for it - Ash.

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    14. Do you really think you were betrayed, Ash?

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    15. Went to Vietnam to fight FOR your country did you? I'm sure all military men (and, of course politicians) also serve for the country they love. It has nothing to do with power, a job, education, travel...drink..

      Join the army
      Travel to Exotic Lands
      Meet Unusual People
      and Kill Them!

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    16. anon - "do I really think I was betrayed?" Not really betrayed, that is a strong word, but T's posts heavily reference who she is and when that turns out to be not the truth all else is called into question.

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  10. Yep sounds like you are a affirmative action broad...

    never could get a real job?


    Real job. What do you do WiO? Are you a gatekeeper who stamps paperwork to let other people do something? That can be automated. We used to have people hand deliver printed shop orders, now we just pick them off the LAN.

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    1. I dont suck off the government tit like you do..

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    2. What you do? Sounds like 300 million Indian's from India could be trained to do.. Monkey work.

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    3. Fünfte Kolonne Kot continues to ignore the case of Robert Levinson.

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  11. Teresita RedingerFri Nov 29, 09:56:00 AM EST
    And you, a supposed "analyst" for the US military.

    Either you are a lying sack of shit? Or you are one DUMB affirmative action broad.

    Which is it?

    I analyze broken torpedoes and Blackhawk fuel management systems, order replacement chips, transistors, etc, slide 'em in, and then analyze the stuff again to verify it works, hang an "A" tag on it and send it on it's merry. It's a great job, because everyone else's position is being automated. When robots can fix themselves, then I'll be ready to retire. There are CASREP'd helicopters that don't fly and subs that don't leave the pier until I do what I do. So take your affirmative action broad sucking-the-teat-of-the-taxpayer stuff and stick it where the sun don't shine, bozo.


    So Ms T, you are saying you are one smart cookie.

    Then it can be concluded when you distort, cut and paste out of context and lie you are doing that on purpose?

    Yep the verdict is in Ms T. is smart. And an anti-Semite. And a liar. (you made a rational for it again just one thread back) You now claim to have kids? At one time you claimed you could not. But you also claimed to be a Roman Catholic Lesbian with a wife.

    A serial liar.

    Oh and let's not forget your begging and pleading to get your name REMOVED FROM THIS BLOG. How many times has that happened???

    And yet, Deuce, puts you back up, time and time again. (He has a thing for the brown, oppressed peoples like you).

    Remember your swan song just a week ago?

    If you see my name on this blog is MUST BE WIO as it will not be ME!!!!!!!!!!

    Fucking loser.

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    1. And yet, Deuce, puts you back up, time and time again. (He has a thing for the brown, oppressed peoples like you).

      I've gotten the message loud and clear from Deuce, that he's tired of that loop, so you can rest easy, WiO, I won't have the powah. And when the blog hits 200-300 posts, everyone can go do something important for a change.

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    2. LOL

      Now admit that it's you posting with your name and not me...

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    3. Now admit that it's you posting with your name and not me...

      Where's that Jenny? We need to go out and get some cock.

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    4. Funny. But evasive.

      Cannot tell a truth?

      And you work for our armed forces?

      WOW...

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  12. Teresita RedingerFri Nov 29, 10:15:00 AM EST
    And yet you quote from the Jewish Scriptures on a daily basis...

    I'll give WiO and allen this, when they don't know what to do, just like the children of Israel below Mt Horeb, they resort to the Brazen Bull.


    A little knowledge is dangerous.

    Thus you prove it on a hourly basis.

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  13. End the OccupationFri Nov 29, 10:50:00 AM EST


    Fünfte Kolonne Kot has now abandoned the case of Robert Levinson.

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  14. A San Antonio police officer charged with sexual assault in the alleged rape of a woman in his patrol car while on duty also faces a federal civil rights charge in that case.

    Jail records show 40-year-old Officer Jackie Len Neal was booked Wednesday night and freed Thursday on $10,000 bond. The charge involves improper sexual activity with a person in custody.

    Neal was arrested Nov. 23 on a sexual assault charge the day after a 19-year-old woman said she was raped during a traffic stop. Neal was freed on bond following that charge. Online jail records don't list an attorney for Neal, who's been on paid administrative leave since the initial charge was filed.

    Police Chief William McManus says there's no such thing as consensual sex while on duty.

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  15. WiO: Ordinary "Americans" don't invent fake Catholic lesbian persona's and lie about themselves for years.

    Unless they participate for seven years on a blog with assholes who use every scrap of information they can get to defame other people.

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  16. desert ratFri Nov 29, 09:43:00 AM EST Fünfte Kolonne Kot has now abandoned Robert Levinson.
    desert ratFri Nov 29, 09:50:00 AM EST Fünfte Kolonne Kot continues to have abandoned Robert Levinson.
    desert ratFri Nov 29, 09:56:00 AM EST That is why he is the Kot, not the Teamleitern, of the Fünfte Kolonne
    desert ratFri Nov 29, 09:58:00 AM EST Kot, not the Teamleitern, of the Fünfte Kolonne
    desert ratFri Nov 29, 10:22:00 AM EST Fünfte Kolonne Kot wanted to discus the
    desert ratFri Nov 29, 10:03:00 AM EST Fünfte Kolonne has been utilized,
    desert ratFri Nov 29, 10:16:00 AM EST Maybe the Fünfte Kolonne Kot would rather discuss ....
    desert ratFri Nov 29, 10:24:00 AM EST Kot's radar. Fünfte Kolonne has been utilized
    End the OccupationFri Nov 29, 10:28:00 AM EST Well even if the Kot does not want to
    desert ratFri Nov 29, 10:48:00 AM EST Fünfte Kolonne Kot continues to ignore the case of Robert Levinson.
    End the OccupationFri Nov 29, 10:50:00 AM EST Fünfte Kolonne Kot has now abandoned the case of Robert Levinson.

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    1. End the OccupationFri Nov 29, 11:06:00 AM EST

      Why has the Fünfte Kolonne Kot abandoned the case of Robert Levinson, after he brought it up?

      The Kot brought he case to the table, then ran away from it.

      Why?

      It will be a topic for days.

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    2. End the OccupationFri Nov 29, 11:10:00 AM EST


      Not so much Mr Levinson, as there is not much there, very little evidence to study.

      But the lack of resolve and focus by the Fünfte Kolonne Kot, that we will be discussing

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  17. Two million people spend 38 years living in one spot (Kadesh-barnea) and do not leave behind a single building, road, grave, campsite or pottery shard to show they were ever there. Now they tell us they own the whole place from the Euphrates to the Nile because they were there, man.

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  18. I go to DC and see my Uncle's name on a black wall. I received a 3 pointed America flag when my father passed.

    But I don't pass the Rufus "American" test.

    Fuck you Rufus.

    You don't pass MY "those who served" test.

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    1. Where is the Fünfte Kolonne Kot's concern for Robert Levinson, now?

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    2. Three million monkeys in India made those flags, what's so special about it?

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    3. Fünfte Kolonne Kot said that the lack of discussion of the Robert Levinson case was telling, now he is silent about it.

      Why?

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    4. .

      Lord, rat, you are annoying.

      .

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    5. .

      Three million monkeys in India made those flags, what's so special about it?

      T, you should learn when to shut the fuck up and stop throwing out one liners.

      .

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    6. Resolve can often manifest itself like that, Q

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    7. Teresita RedingerFri Nov 29, 11:13:00 AM EST
      Three million monkeys in India made those flags, what's so special about it?


      Wow, and yes it's comments like that that make me wonder if you ever served.

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  19. I finally googled Herr Rodent's obsession:

    "fifth column feces"


    Yep Rat is one retarded person. They used to put folk like him into "sanitariums" Now they are allowed out....

    Shame.

    Rat? One vile person, a merc. No honor, no shame, no ethics and certainly no Marine.

    A poser.

    Stolen Valor.

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  20. Deuce should be proud of his best friend "rat".

    Makes the blog?

    So intelligent.


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  21. What is "Occupation"Fri Nov 29, 08:45:00 AM EST
    Rat? You stand with whoever pays you to stand. You are a hired gun. No morals, no ethics, no honor.

    Your opinion?

    Worthless. As is you as a man.

    You are a shameless character.


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  22. Ash: Stolen valour - bad! Stolen gayness - meh!

    This was before it was cool to be gay. The equivalent would be attempting to pass as a Vietnam veteran in 1971 when they were spitting on them.

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  23. So, how’s it going? ... Has the curve been bent?

    The answer, amazingly, is yes. In fact, the slowdown in health costs has been dramatic .... Since 2010, when the act was passed, real health spending per capita ... has risen less than a third as rapidly as its long-term average. Real spending per Medicare recipient hasn’t risen at all; real spending per Medicaid beneficiary has actually fallen slightly.

    What could account for this good news? One obvious answer is the still-depressed economy, which might be causing people to forgo expensive medical care. But this explanation turns out to be problematic in multiple ways. ...

    A better story focuses on what appears to be a decline in ... expensive new blockbuster drugs, even as existing drugs go off-patent and can be replaced with cheaper generic brands. ... But since drugs are only about 10 percent of health spending, it can only explain so much.

    So what aspects of Obamacare might be causing health costs to slow? One clear answer is the act’s reduction in Medicare “overpayments”... A less certain but likely source of savings involves changes in the way Medicare pays for services. The program now penalizes hospitals if many of their patients end up being readmitted soon after being released — an indicator of poor care — and readmission rates have, in fact, fallen substantially. Medicare is also encouraging ... “accountable care,” in which health organizations get rewarded for overall success in improving care while controlling costs.

    Furthermore, there’s evidence that Medicare savings “spill over” to the rest of the health care system...

    And the biggest savings may be . . . . . .

    unnoticed gains

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    1. .

      I am just a poor boy
      Though my story's seldom told
      I have squandered my resistance
      For a pocket full of mumbles such are promises
      All lies and jests

      Still a man hears what he wants to hear
      And disregards the rest



      Pretty much the same article was published here the other day and the obvious rebuttals were listed. No sense doing it again. We should see where the truth lies in a few years when Obamacare is fully launched and actual studies have been conducted.

      .

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  24. My God that rat's a dumb ass, really messed up.

    He is our "killer patriot" and death threatener.

    He bozo.

    He is C R AZ Y

    and needs HELP

    NOW

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    1. Ifeanyi Enoch OnuohaFri Nov 29, 11:34:00 AM EST


      “In you. Farmer Fudd, is the ability that will move you from nonentity and mediocrity to an entity of meteority.
      Take responsibility now!”

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  25. WiO: You now claim to have kids? At one time you claimed you could not. But you also claimed to be a Roman Catholic Lesbian with a wife.

    Spouse and rug rats aren't a part of this.

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  26. And Miss T I will pay airline for you to live in Saudi.

    They will take care of you good and proper there.

    First thing goes.....your driver's license.

    Then on goes the burka.

    You will neither look good nor bad in burka, you will just look like black stump, like all the others.

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    1. Ifeanyi Enoch OnuohaFri Nov 29, 11:35:00 AM EST



      “In you. Farmer Fudd, is the ability that will move you from nonentity and mediocrity to an entity of meteority.
      Take responsibility now!”

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    2. And you won't be able to horse shit on a blog either!

      That is an advantage.

      You will "just shut up" and do as you are told......

      But in Israel you would be free....

      You dumbshit

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    3. crapper is multi personality again today

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    4. “Farmer Fudd doesn't understand the concept of Roman numerals.
      He thought we just fought in world war eleven.”

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    5. heh,what a bozo, he puts in his 12 hour day on this non sense that is for sure


      you'd think he'd take his wife out to lunch once a week or something, go bowling, anything....

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    6. In fact, we should all drink rat poison and then wait for the rat to die.

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  27. Deuce, I like you a lot. You have smarts. But you have lost it on this. It is embarrassing.

    I still give you the benefit of the doubt......it MUST be the arabic skirt.....

    But Good God man......

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    1. An Abusive Ad Hominem occurs when an attack on the character or other irrelevant personal qualities of the opposition
      such as appearance, sexual preferences, etc. is offered as evidence against their position.

      Such attacks are often effective distractions ("red herrings"),
      because the opponents feel it necessary to defend themselves, thus being distracted from the topic of the debate.

      We are Anonymous - We are Legion - We are the Collective

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    2. Notice how Farmer Fudd uses xenophobia, misogynist and ethnic slurs in his Ad Hominem assault on the host

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    3. .

      Who turned on the rat signal?

      .

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  28. .

    AshFri Nov 29, 11:41:00 AM EST

    anon - "do I really think I was betrayed?" Not really betrayed, that is a strong word, but T's posts heavily reference who she is and when that turns out to be not the truth all else is called into question.



    As with most things, Ash, you lack nuance. What harm did T actually do? Despite her many rationalizations, I thought her act was childish; however, in the end it ended up being more annoying than harmful. Allen is a different cat.

    I have no opinion on the military aspects discussed here over the past few days. My closest experience with the military was walking through a line with a bunch of other hung over assholes who smelled like shit as we proceeded though an interminable line of doctors poking and prodding us. That and being handed a piece of chocolate cake at the mess in Fort Wayne and having the pink frosting slide off in a single piece as I tipped the cake to take a bite.

    However, I have seen Allen in action, not only here but at two other blogs at around the time Whit was asking him to leave and when that other blogger we saw here occasionally died. He is a hypocrite and a trouble maker. Worse, he will go behind your back to do it. But the worst is exemplified by the words he spoke here the other day and what they imply.

    You show up here only occasionally so I am not sure if your opinions come from not understanding the overall context and interaction on the blog or if you are simply simple.

    .

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    1. ALLEN: Israelis are well versed in history and Obama will not be the first emperor to get a face full of Jewish spit. Israel cannot win a war conventionally with the US. But we don't need to, because we can destroy your civilization.

      WIO: America will pay a penalty for lying and cheating the very allies that stood tall with it for decades.

      TERESITA: You're a cowgirl if your girlfriend finds hair on your coat and you have the horse to match.

      (Howzat Quirk? That's a three-liner)

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    2. .

      Clever, T, but a distraction from the point I was making about your compulsive need to throw out a one liner even when inappropriate.

      .

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    3. Brevity is the soul of wit. That was a riposte to WiO who thinks that my job as an electronics technician can be done by some punk fresh off the Mombai street. Truth is, nobody does component-level repair anymore, except for the military, and even then only on select hardware like torpedoes which must be ranged several times before a sub captain will put them in his magazine. Don't want to come out of the restroom firing at McCluskey and Solozzo with just your dick in your hand. Nowadays, if your android slate breaks you just get a new one, you don't take it to me.

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    4. What harm did Allen do? I certainly don't support his opinions but harm? Did he hurt Rufus's feelings? Doug does that all the time. Ouch! but does it do harm?

      I think you are the one lacking perception of nuance here Quirk. While you may believe I only show up occasionally I have been reading the comments for years, regularly. Of late I comment less and read it much less carefully due to the flood of rat shit and other, ummm, less than concise posts. This place has had a variety of shit like that over the years. The boobie and dougshit show was another instance of it. When boob degenerates into his diatribes alone is another. WiO's got a penchant for dropping piles of crap. I try to skim most everything but that stuff is more scroll. I try to read your posts though but I'm a busy guys these days so trying to joust with all on a regular basis is tough.

      But back to the topic at hand. I'm trying for some nuance (and my lack of ability to express may hamper that but...). On the one hand we are all 'made up characters' adjusting the front we present here. Sometimes arguing as the devils advocate other times honestly all with 'nom de guerre's'. One does form opinions of 'who' the various posters are, their real 'psyches' if you will.

      Yet we all are creatures of our imagination here. T led folk to believe she was gay ect. for quite a long time. Then she did an about face an wasn't. Allen has said a lot of stuff but, somehow, saying one was a marine when one wasn't is way worse then saying, I dunno, one is gay. I don't place particular faith in someone's integrity because they are ex-mil (or present mil) but, it appears, many do.

      So, my comments of late are two pronged. 1.) Many folk put military folk up on a pedestal - it is rampant in the US and it is the epitome of political correctness - "thank you for your service" all those military folk at sporting events, fly-overs - bah! and 2.)We form 'friendships' as it were here, 'acquaintanceships' more like and speaking honestly does have some import but more import if you claim military heritage it seems.

      I know, you are hungover Quirk and nuance is too subtle for an addled brain. Go shopping! Watch some football. Enjoy the holiday!

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    5. .

      Brevity is the soul of wit.

      In this case, witless. WiO hurts you feelings about a job so like a lot of the nitwits around here you strike out in an entirely unrelated direction, attacking a symbol many Americans take pride in, the flag given to them by their country in remembrance of the service to that country by a loved one.

      I was given one for my dad's service and frankly didn't check for a label saying where it was made. You said you were a veteran. I doubt you will make a notation in you will telling your family to check where it is made before accepting it.

      .

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    6. and here we have T, complete with a picture of a Philippine woman, who does component repair for the military. That is what she says and she uses it to bolster what she writes. She did that when she was a lesbian.

      Chances are HE is gay and is an admin assistant for someone who runs a computer store. Does it matter? Does it do harm? You be the judge.

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    7. .

      As I said, Ash, you lack nuance.

      As I pointed out above, the military discussion between Rufus and Allen meant very little to me. It was merely the culmination of a number of issues, not merely differences of opinion, that pointed out what a prick Allen is.

      Military. Non-military. It doesn't matter to me. While I appreciate the service the military provides especially in times of war, I offer the ex-military no deference when it comes to matters of opinion or fact, whether military related or not. Just as I don't give a shit about being called a misogynist, racist, anti-Semite, homophobe, or non-veteran by some asshole. All I demand is a legitimate reason for it if it's meant as a slur, not some PC bullshit dreamt up by some pissant.

      Rufus pointed out that he did take Allen comment as an insult and that was the precipitating event that led to their little tussle; however, he also pointed out that it wasn't the main reason he called the man out but rather the last in a long line of things. What can't you get about that?

      As to harm, T, put on here little charade but what harm did it actually do to anyone here? What harm did she try to do to anyone using the false persona as a tool?

      As I mentioned, I have seen instances where Allen has gone behind people's back trying to discredit them on other blogs. The harm he has done? Trying to discredit someone without having the balls to say it to their face. I have had a number of disagreements with Allen, the Liberty being one of them; but I am not down on him because of our differences of opinion. I am down on him because he is a self-declared Israeli-firster. That may not mean much to some sailor from Canada but it appears to mean something to the regulars on this blog.

      As for nuance, you initially commented on the words Allen spoke but you missed the important part. It wasn't so much the words, it was the use of personal pronouns. It wasn't 'Israel can do this..', it was 'we can do this...'. It wasn't 'they will do this to you...' but 'we will do this to you...'.

      When questioned, he stated that Israel is 'family' and that 'family' will always come first.

      Pretty clear, to anyone who can read, yet, you seem to have missed it.

      Go back and have some more milk and cookies, son.

      .

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    8. I got that is what allen said and I tried to go see it in context but the buggy google wouldn't allow it. It's too bad because the entertainment factor may have been greater. I even probed allen to get him to clarify and re-iterate what he wrote at a second time. He essentially confirmed it and then played the victim card. funny guy! I've seen allen melt down a few times here and it is entertaining. Sometimes he can make some sense and he does seem educated. I've wondered if he might not be a rabbi. I am unaware of his actions on other blogs. I do find he is a blowhard who flips out when he gets caught up in his own web of illogic. You, old man, seem to have a chip on your shoulder though - ole grumpy guts. Didn't you, in all honesty, inquire about T's family back in the Phillipines as the Typhoon struck? Do you care whether they really exist or not? Given past behavior they are just part of the story too. No harm, no foul eh?

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    9. .

      Didn't you, in all honesty, inquire about T's family back in the Phillipines as the Typhoon struck? Do you care whether they really exist or not? Given past behavior they are just part of the story too. No harm, no foul eh?


      No.

      Basically, I accept what people say here about themselves (even when some obviously say too much) up to the point where the story obviously becomes ridiculous or they prove themselves to be lying. I don't see the point of the lying. The posts I have seen here recently about some person who called himself Habu seemed rather bizarre,

      I may be cynical but evidently I haven't reached your level, yet.

      .

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    10. Were you around as T spun her lesbian tale? Pretty convincing. Then she came clean and became a housewife with rug rats who still has a penchant for that Lebanese gal. Your guess is as good as mine as to the veracity of the current tale.

      Habu, he was a piece of work. Wrote well, opinionated as all get out (hard core conservative war monger type who was banker and CIA agent all in one). More bombastic and prolific then allen.

      I too tend to take people at their word. allen a marine, ok, oops, allen not a marine outted by rufus - cool and entertaining. The important parts, though, are the thoughts expressed and seeing him go off the rails threatening 'spit in Obama's face' and 'unleashing nukes' was pretty wild. Israel against the world...

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  29. Heh try again.

    Deuce let out that he is dating an arabic woman.

    Nothing wrong in that, unless you go and lose your mind over her propaganda.

    Hey,he used to make to make some sense.

    Now he doesn't.

    What has changed in his life style?

    Ah, arabic woman.

    :)

    I am not saying he's got Alzheimer's, or had a stroke.

    I am suggesting he is "skirt influenced".

    :)

    I am too these days. Black hair, tawny skin, bright eyes, smarts.....courage unbelievable......

    No racism or sexism here....

    She would scold me if she knew I was wasting my time writing on a stupid....

    "Really...Uncle Bob....you can do better."

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    1. Pussy Whipped (adj.) - Describing men of higher intelligence

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    2. and why assume that an "arab woman" would spout "propaganda". Must be 'cause all farmers are hicks.

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  30. She has taken a five month job at a hospital in Dresden.

    Vegas now five months away, five month delay.

    And what is "you fucking fascist farmer bob" but an ad hominem?

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    1. Who is bob?

      No one uses bob as at sign-on, Farmer Fudd.

      No one uses Farmer Fudd.

      It is an Ad Hominem against a non-entity

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    2. Who is Farmer Fudd?

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    3. It is use of a fiction, Farmer Fudd.
      A fiction that you identify with, of your own volition.

      As Brandon Mull writes ...
      "Stories happen in the mind of a reader, not among symbols printed on a page.”


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    4. While just yesterday Anonymous wrote he was to well read to believe absurdities.

      heh, heh heh.

      We are Legion - We are the collective

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    5. “In such a society as ours the only possible chance for change, for mobility, for political, economic, and moral flow lies in the tactics of guerrilla warfare, in the use of fictions, of language.”

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    6. .

      She has taken a five month job at a hospital in Dresden.

      Vegas now five months away, five month delay.



      :)

      Anonymous-Bob, please provide a chronology of events involving your 'niece', Botabing Botanchoohe. I haven't been taking notes.

      As I recall, the last delay was for about 6 weeks because she was staying on to do important brain stuff. And a real nice grey haired fellow was helping her out financially. Berlin wasn't it?

      Now, she is heading to Dresden. How much cab fair did she need this time?

      If this keeps up much longer, you will be too old to pull the handle on the slots.

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  31. We all know who desert rat is.

    He is the person that when he gets upset issues death threats on the internet.

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    1. Post it, bitch, if you can.
      If you can't you are just another fraudulent fuckin' Fudd

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    2. Can't.Deuce took it down.

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  32. I admit you have something of a point there, Ash. But what other explanation can you offer?

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    1. Surely Ash, you don't think the Jews are devils?

      Because that is what they are made out to be here, day after day.

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    2. eh? Most talk is of Israel and its policies rarely is the talk about Jews other than by those you try to argue that to criticize Israel is to be anti-jew.

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  33. Dutch digital activist discusses Anonymous in depth Special
    By Justin King

    As you just said:
    you can't tell Anonymous what to do.
    And that is really the only good answer.

    But I would like to add to that:
    there are many causes to pick in many arenas against many obscure social system qualities,
    and I suggest picking the cause that suits you and your capabilities best.

    There is no such thing as a specific focus.
    Focus carries the suggestion of a frontal attack strategy (strength against strength), but there are also different strategies, like a flanking attack (strength against weakness), and guerilla attack ("(re)group", "focus", hit, run, disperse... And again...)

    . A guerilla attack forces your opponent to disperse its power over a larger battleground.

    Learn how this works and apply it with non-violent means.
    All of these strategies are effective in certain arenas against certain players, depending on the battleground,
    the agenda, the players, and the book of rules.

    For example, The NSA launched a media frontal attack (Anonymous dismantled) which was actually a small results guerilla attack (some hacktivism dismantled).
    This is when you know that Anonymous is winning.

    You only need to continue and keep your stamina.

    Read more: http://digitaljournal.com/article/362837#ixzz2lo4y77hq

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    1. “Here's to the crazy ones. The misfits. The rebels. The troublemakers. The round pegs in the square holes. The ones who see things differently. They're not fond of rules. And they have no respect for the status quo. You can quote them, disagree with them, glorify or vilify them. About the only thing you can't do is ignore them. Because they change things. They push the human race forward. And while some may see them as the crazy ones, we see genius. Because the people who are crazy enough to think they can change the world, are the ones who do.”
      ― Apple Inc.

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  34. U.S. General Apologizes After Afghan Drone Strike
    By ROD NORDLAND
    Published: November 29, 2013

    KABUL, Afghanistan — The American military commander called President Hamid Karzai to apologize for a drone strike in southern Helmand Province, which the military conceded had killed and wounded civilians, a coalition official said on Friday.

    Mr. Karzai had lashed out at his American allies after the Thursday attack, which came at a delicate moment when talks between Mr. Karzai and the United States over a long-term security agreement have reached an impasse. The Americans have told Mr. Karzai that unless he signs the agreement promptly, they will begin planning for a total withdrawal of American and NATO forces after the end of next year.

    Gen. Joseph F. Dunford Jr., the American and NATO commander in Afghanistan, made a late-night phone call to President Karzai on Thursday after the president’s criticism became public. “He talked to President Karzai directly, expressed deep regrets for the incident and any civilian casualties, and promised to convene an immediate joint investigation to determine all the facts of what happened,” a coalition spokesman said, speaking on the condition of anonymity in line with official policy.

    Mr. Karzai vowed this week, at the conclusion of a loya jirga, or grand council, that he would cancel the security agreement completely if there was even one more raid that killed civilians.

    On Thursday, he said that in effect that moment had come. “For as long as such arbitrary acts and oppression of foreign forces continue, the security agreement with the United States will not be signed,” he said.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2013/11/30/world/asia/drone-strike-in-afghanistan.html?_r=0

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    1. Modestas RinkeviciusFri Nov 29, 01:15:00 PM EST


      Sometimes all you need is a simple 'sorry.'
       

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      It's easier to beg forgiveness than to ask permission.

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  35. my tougue is my potatoie cheek rat. T sucked many in with her lesbo schtick and it pissed a few folk off. Deuce, the successful bon vivant ladies man ex-cold war military man with a driver is probably some fat fuck still living in his parents basement.

    right deuce of the 2164th ;)


    Yo, Ash, you talking to me?

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    1. :)

      ********

      It's SUNNY!!!!

      Actually it's cloudy here, but where ever Sunny is iy's SUNNY

      TV

      http://dailycaller.com/2013/11/28/give-thanks-for-sunny-tv-video/

      I love that young lady!

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    2. where ever Sunny is it's SUNNY!!

      bob

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  37. WiO,

    WiO,
    My exchange with Rufus Stolen Valor had the purposes of proving him a liar and a welfare recipient through VA. I have known about the welfare angle for a long time and decided this was the time to expose him. It took two days, but it was worth it.

    Each and every month, Rufus Stolen Valor receives from Uncle Sam a check for doing two things: a) not being damaged in support of the United States and b) failing to make a living. You see, many years ago Congress authorized VA to become a covert dispenser of welfare. Indeed, the majority of folk using the VA system and getting small pensions have no more right to them than some gal in Philly with a batch of kids and high blood pressure from weighing 400 lbs. or a wino or drug abuser.

    So, the next time the guy gives you grief about your views on the Obama system or anything else having to do with the economy, remind him that he is an old man who made bad life’s choices and is on the government dole rather than the street.

    As for as the Marine Corps, I really do not care that some E-4 doubts it. For my service I receive compensation, not a pension. I get it and every single health care service possible because I was damaged in support of the US and am rewarded by a grateful nation. I cry when I leave my government subsidized home all the way to the bank in my VA funded vehicle. And I cried a river when each of my two children received almost $40,000 to go to school under Chapter 35. And I moan every time I use an AAFES facility wherever I happen to be and leave with a full tank of government subsidized gas.

    But my friend, I earned it. 93% of my buddies earned only a headstone.

    Truth be told, desert rat is of the same stripe.

    The only thing that troubled me came at the end of the exchange. Earlier the guy admitted having STDs. Then, he asks me to say in Vietnamese, “come here little girl”. That was Freudian and nauseating.

    Since this is my last outing in Little Berlin, feel free to contact me via my personal email.

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