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Tuesday, November 12, 2013

Chickens from China - “Why is the USDA doing it?” he said. “We just don’t know.”



Schumer: Chicken Slaughtered, Raised In China Could Pose Major Risk

USDA Says It Has Not Finalized Audit Of China
November 10, 2013 8:24 PM

NEW YORK (CBSNewYork) — Chicken from China has officials on alert, including U.S. Sen. Charles Schumer (D-N.Y.)
As WCBS 880’s Jim Smith reported Sunday, Schumer said first, the U.S. Department of Agriculture only allowed chickens that had been processed in China to be sold in the U.S. Now, he said the USDA plans to green-light poultry raised and slaughtered in China.
This has never happened before, and it is a bad idea, Schumer argued.
“China has a terrible record on health safety, and chickens are one of the things that need the most care and inspections,” he said.
Schumer called the plan a huge change in policy, and a big mistake.
“China has been a massive source of food poisoning here in America for years,” he said.
A step closer to final approval, Schumer said a USDA report to Congress indicated aspects of the Chinese slaughter system to be equivalent to that of the U.S.
“Why is the USDA doing it?” he said. “We just don’t know.”
In response to Schumer’s comments, the USDA said it is legally obligated to review requests from countries waiting to export, but it has not finalized its audit of China.
As to whether the Chinese poultry slaughter system is equivalent to that of the U.S., the USDA said categorically that it is not.

“USDA has not found China’s poultry slaughter system to be equivalent and therefore poultry slaughtered in China is not allowed to be imported to the United States,” the agency said in a statement. “The U.S. food supply is among the safest in the world, and the Food Safety and Inspection Service is dedicated to maintaining that status.”

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170 comments:

  1. There will be an incident where over a thousand Americans die from mad chicken disease or something, and the GOP will hold hearings in the House. The FDA chief, Margaret Hamburg, a Harvard alum from, you guessed it, Chicago, will plead the fifth when asked about the second home on Martha's Vineyard that Yum! paid for.

    Yum and McDonald's Corp's have come under intense scrutiny from local media since the official China Central Television reported in late December that some of the chicken supplied to them contained excess amounts of antiviral drugs and hormones used to accelerate growth.

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    1. McMorgue offers new McCroak Chicken Sandwich Family Size With Coke, Fries, And Tits Up Kids Game.

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    2. "We're all doomed and deserve to be doomed."

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    3. Get your McQuirk's Certified China Free Chicken Here, Folks

      (seen in waking vision of Detroit of the future)

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  2. Why?

    Simple.

    Obama is trying to kill us off.

    Get us sick.

    Send us to ObamaCare.

    And the death panels.

    "When the political winds change, I will side with the muslims."

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    1. Most Chinese ruralites have chickens running around in what passes for the living room. But they've become immune over the centuries.

      We will die like flies.

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    2. James E. O'Keefe III Scores Again - Obamacare is Political Corruption Incarnate.

      O'keef Video

      James O’Keefe, the guerrilla videographer who helped bring down ACORN (the “community organizing” group that Barack Obama worked for as a lawyer and trainer) and got NPR’s president fired, is back.

      This time, his undercover investigators focused on Obamacare’s “navigators,” the nearly 50,000 people who, in the words of the Department of Health and Human Services, “will serve as an in-person resource for Americans who want additional assistance in shopping for and enrolling in plans” on the Obamacare exchanges (at least when they’re finally working). The total value of grants doled out for nonprofits and community organizations to hire navigators has topped $67 million nationwide, and some of the money is going to a group run by ACORN’s highly controversial founder.

      The events of O’Keefe’s video of a Texas navigator site run by the National Urban League are a familiar sight to viewers of his past efforts exposing Medicaid and voter fraud. Government-paid workers supposedly trained to uphold the law advise clients on how to lie on government forms, evade legal requirements, and ignore proper procedures.

      ---

      “You lie because your premiums will be higher,” one navigator advises an investigator for O’Keefe’s Project Veritas, who tells the worker he sometimes smokes. “Don’t tell them that. Don’t tell ’em.”

      The investigator then poses as a low-income worker at a university who has unreported cash income on the side, worrying about how that might affect his premium subsidies. That’s no problem for a navigator, who says, “Don’t get yourself in trouble by declaring it now.”

      “Yeah, it didn’t happen,” another navigator says. One more chimes in: “Never report it.”

      Records show that the National Urban League was paid $376,000 by the federal government for its Obamacare outreach in Texas.

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    3. Obama:
      Rufie's Hero.
      Pathetic.

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    4. Just Lie:

      Other People's Money For Free.

      "Just LIE"

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    5. You smoke?

      "“Don’t tell them that. Don’t tell ’em.”"

      "Just LIE"

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    2. Obama is just trying to repair the damage inflicted on us by LBJ, Carter, and of course The Big Kahuna GW Bush.

      Rufie tells us so.

      That backache you suffer in the morning was caused by GW Bush.

      Obama is just trying to repair the damage for us.

      And The Children.

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    3. If the Sun fails to rise today, Obama will be working hard to rectify this catastrophe caused by Bush.

      5 years and counting, and it's still ALL Bush's fault.

      Rufie tells us so.

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    4. The Great Depression started 83 years ago, and, guess what - it's STILL Hoover, and Coolidge's fault.

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    5. I'm thinking more Mr. Smoot and Mr. Hawley.

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    6. Yep, the two Republicans, Smoot and Hawley, bear a share of the blame. BTW, it was Herbert Hoover that SIGNED the Smoot - Hawley Tariff Bill.

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    7. I'm not a Republican, so which team is to blame doesn't concern me.

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  4. Feds deny they're lifting China chicken ban

    By Julian Hattem

    Federal food safety regulators are denying Democrats’ claims that they are preparing to let raw chicken parts be imported from China.

    The the Food Safety and Inspection Service in a statement late Sunday said it “has not found China's poultry slaughter system to be equivalent and therefore poultry slaughtered in China is not allowed to be imported to the United States.”

    “The U.S. food supply is among the safest in the world, and the Food Safety Inspection Service is dedicated to maintaining that status," continued the service, which is housed in the Department of Agriculture.

    The announcement came after Sen. Charles Schumer (D-N.Y.) and Rep. Rosa DeLauro (D-Conn.) criticized the Obama administration for “getting ready” to allow Chinese chickens to be sold in American stores.
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    The USDA is currently conducting an audit of China’s poultry slaughter system. That report has not yet been finalized. When it is, the food safety agency said that China would be required to fix any flaws in its food safety regime.

    In late August, the Agriculture Department allowed four Chinese poultry processors to ship some cooked meat to the U.S. The department said that only birds raised in the U.S. and Canada and then sent to China could be imported into the country.

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    1. http://thehill.com/blogs/regwatch/administration/189845-feds-push-back-against-chinese-chicken-claims

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  5. How China Got Approval to Process and Export U.S. Chicken
    By Dan Flynn | September 5, 2013

    For two weeks this past March, an audit team from USDA’s Food Safety and Inspection Service (FSIS) was all over the People’s Republic of China’s poultry-processing system.

    Their task was to determine if China’s processing “remains equivalent to that of the United States, with the ability to produce products that are safe, wholesome, unadulterated, and properly labeled.”

    The conclusion, based on corrective actions the Chinese took in response to the last audit in 2010, was that China’s General Administration for Quality and Safety Inspection and Quarantine (AQSIQ) passed the test — its regulation of poultry production is up to USDA standards.

    This means that four poultry processors in China will be able to ship cooked poultry products to the U.S. The chickens will have to originate here, but it also might be the first step toward the day when birds raised and slaughtered in China could fill dinner plates in the U.S.

    Like its other foreign audits, the FSIS investigation of China’s poultry-processing plants was exhaustive. It included government oversight, statutory authority and regulations, sanitation practices, hazard analysis and critical control point planning, chemical residue programs and microbiological testings.

    In each area, FSIS requires the foreign government reach a standard that is at least equivalent to USDA standards. In China, the two-week audit began and ended in Beijing, but focused on four poultry-processing establishments: Qingdao 9-Alliance Group, Ltd.; Zhucheng Waimao Co., Ltd., Weifang Legang Food Co., Ltd, and Zhong AO Holdings Co., Ltd.

    All four establishments were investigated based on provisions of both U.S. and Chinese food-safety law. China first requested U.S. inspection in 2004, and while it was added to the U.S. list of countries for which export of processed poultry was allowed in 2006, restrictions were imposed because China was not free of highly pathogenic Avian flu and exotic Newcastle Disease.

    Since 2010, however, China has taken corrective actions and sought a re-examination by the U.S. FSIS then found the inspection system in the People’s Republic “meets the requirement for this equivalence component.”


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  6. It appears tha Senator Shumer is "Grandstanding" ...

    That the USDA is not "poised" to allow Chinese Chicken unfettered access to the US dinner table.

    But is following strict guidlines in the inspection of Chinese chicken processors. Inspections the Chinese have failed in the past but have "cleaned up" and brought to USDA standards. The past failurs an indication that the USDA is adhering to their own standard of excellence in food safety inspections.

    Meanwhile the Chicken Little contingent is now siding with Chuck Shumer in promoing misinformation as fact, that is humorous..

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  7. In the five years through 2013, revenue for China’s poultry farming industry has grown at an average annualized rate of 7.7% to $75.3 billion and two U.S. meat giants are in the thick of it. Tyson Foods and Cargill each want their share of this burgeoning market expected to produce 20 million tons of chicken this year with revenue growth of nearly 10%, according to IBIS World.

    YSON’S VENTURES
    Springdale-based Tyson Foods has worked toward complete vertical integration of its China operations for more than a year. It's a move the company said will improve food safety standards in China while also helping grow topline sales.

    Tyson CEO Donnie Smith recently said that roughly 50% of its chicken business in China is vertically integrated, and by the end of 2014 it should reach 100%.
 Tyson operates three ventures and employs about 4,300 people in China. The first venture, established in 2001,Tyson Dalong Food Co., operates two modern processing plants and a separate marinating facility.

    In 2008, Jiangsu Tyson Foods Co. was formed near Shanghai, which is a fully integrated poultry complex where the company is sharing food safety and efficient processing methodology with Chinese consumers.

    In 2009, Tyson acquired a majority interest in three poultry plants in the Shandong province. In 2011, Tyson purchased the remaining 40% bring the company’s total investment of $115 million with another $93 million for capital needs. Those facilities are known as Tyson Rizhao and Tyson Weifang.

    In China, Tyson processes chicken sold wholesale into food service for clients such as Yum Brands! and McDonalds as well fresh chicken sold in retail groceries like Wal-Mart and Sam’s, extending those longtime U.S. relationships abroad.

    Tyson said it is processing about 1.3 million birds per week with a goal to reach 3 million per week by late 2014.

    “We’re expanding the volume of company-controlled birds we produce for our poultry operations. This includes both company-owned birds raised by contract farmers and company-owned birds raised on Tyson-owned and operated farms,” Tyson spokesman Gary Mickelson said.

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    1. CARGILL CHICKEN
      Like Tyson, Cargill has made substantial investments in China. Known for beef and turkey in the U.S., Cargill stretched its wings into chicken production with a $250 million green field investment last year in Anhui, China.

      The large broiler facility includes a feed mill, farms, hatchery and processing plants, according to Michael Martin, Cargill spokesman. He said the facility will raise 65 million birds a year, one of the largest integrated plants in China when production is running a full capacity in the next couple of years.

      Construction was completed this summer and production kicked off last month. The chicken raised by Cargill’s China operations are being sold via food service channels. The company estimates by 2015 the complex will employ 3,500 people.

      “In a country that consumes about a third of the world's animal protein, we believe the product quality and integrity made possible through this model operation will help build confidence in China's food supply,” Cargill noted in a release.

      Cargill said China’s chicken industry is beginning to modernize, much like the pork sector did 20 years ago.

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    2. FOOD SAFETY
      The timing for Tyson and Cargill couldn’t be better given that China’s image has suffered from multiple food safety gaffes in recent years and these two International meat companies have strong food safety records, analysts said.

      Earlier this year an Avian Influenza outbreak known as the H7N9 virus, devastated flocks, sickened more than 100 people and caused more than $6.5 billion in losses to China’s economy. Smith said the outbreak was troubling and detrimental to protein consumption in the short run. However, he said the unfortunate event had “absolutely validated our model for extreme biosecurity.”

      Smith said, while many chickens in China are still raised by small farmers, Tyson is bringing technology and practices common in the U.S. to the Asian country. To keep birds healthy, Tyson uses ventilation systems in the houses, mills its own feed, controls access to farms and requires anyone entering or leaving the buildings to shower, he said.

      Customers in China are willing to pay more for added food safety Tyson provides, he added.

      Martin said the Chinese government continues to encourage the modernization of the poultry supply chain, including the construction of modern housing complexes, in order to improve food safety and disease prevention.

      While China’s consumers are receptive to these brands, Tyson and Cargill each said expansion there has had its challenges.

      Mickelson said the acquisition of land rights is vital for Tyson’s ability to expand and is not a simple process. He said Tyson has received great support from local and provincial governments in their efforts to virtually integrate all of their operations in China.

      Martin said Cargill spent a considerable sum constructing roads and bringing the power infrastructure into Anhui before they could began building their complex operations.

      http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424127887323539804578263450081445528

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    1. The insane rat can call Bob a fuckin' fascist farmer fudd misogynist, racist, bigot all day long and you don't do a thing, but Doug posts some innocent remark in comparison and bang!

      Go back to the Philippines!

      Boo, booo, booooooo...

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    2. Misogynist and racist, the xenophobic fascist Farmer Fudd is at it again.
      Disrespecting Ms T.

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    3. 1. There is no evidence that it was Ms T and not Deuce who deleted the comments.
      That the fascist Farmer Fudd immediately blamed Ms T, evidence that he is a misogynist.

      2. By making reference to her ethnicity he proves himself a racist.

      3. By referencing her family connections with the Philippines, he proves himself a xenophobe.

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    4. NO. It only proves he is ill tempered. Now, if he were to spend years writing tens of thousands of anti-Jewish ravings, that would prove him a berserker and possibly " a fuckin' fascist farmer fudd misogynist, racist, bigot". If permitted to act out his Aryan fantasies, that would imply editorial "issues".

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    5. There has never been an anti=Jewish posting done by the desert rat, Panama Ed or any of the Hegemony of Character.

      Not one.

      Never has the religion of Judaism been besmirched.
      Questions ariing as the history of a "Jewish Race" hve been brought up, but only in response to the geo-political aspirations of the Ashkenazi Europeans that have colonized Israel, with a seemingly fraudulent claim of historical ties to that land.

      That has nothing to do with Judaism or Jews, but a secular state of European colonialists in the Middle East.
      It has everything to do with the agitprop utilized by that regime.

      Its intentional and misleading, even fraudulent use of Judaism in its propaganda.

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    6. LOL tell it to someone who cares...

      Like your prison cell buddy...

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    7. End the OccupationTue Nov 12, 11:23:00 AM EST

      The Invention of the Jewish People is a book written by Shlomo Sand, an Israeli professor of history at the University of Tel Aviv.

      The author wasn’t probing a belief system but Zionist fabrications of a spurious common lineage for people of the Jewish faith.

      Sand argues that the idea of Jews having a common ethnic identity is implausible because, as with Christianity and Islam, Judaism was originally a “proselytising religion”.

      The notion of Judaism as a “race”, rather than a religion of various races, is without foundation.

      The recent study by John Hopkins geneticist Dr Elhaik confirms that the common genome structure of the European Jew gravitated towards an origin in old Khazaria.

      “The majority of Jews do not have Middle Eastern genetic component,” he told Israeli newspaper Haaretz.

      Founded on a mélange of myths and manufactured historical tales, Israel has failed the archaeological test of time and is now exposed by DNA science.
      Today’s genetics prove unequivocally that in 1948 “the children of the original Jews” were replaced by converts with no roots in the Middle East.

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    8. On average, all Ashkenazi Jews are genetically as closely related to each other as fourth or fifth cousins, said Dr. Harry Ostrer, a pathology, pediatrics and genetics professor at the Albert Einstein College of Medicine in New York and the author of "Legacy: A Genetic History of the Jewish People" (Oxford University Press, 2012).

      Maternal DNA
      Richards and his colleagues analyzed mitochondrial DNA, which is contained in the cytoplasm of the egg and passed down only from the mother, from more than 3,500 people throughout the Near East, the Caucusus and Europe, including Ashkenazi Jews.
      The team found that four founders were responsible for 40 percent of Ashkenazi mitochondrial DNA, and that all of these founders originated in Europe. The majority of the remaining people could be traced to other European lineages.
      All told, more than 80 percent of the maternal lineages of Ashkenazi Jews could be traced to Europe, with only a few lineages originating in the Near East.
      Virtually none came from the North Caucasus

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    9. End the OccupationTue Nov 12, 11:25:00 AM EST

      Founded on a mélange of myths and manufactured historical tales,
      Israel has failed the archaeological test of time and is now exposed by DNA science.

      Today’s genetics prove unequivocally that in 1948 “the children of the original Jews” were replaced by converts with no roots in the Middle East.

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    10. DeuceTue Nov 12, 11:30:00 AM EST
      I did the deleting and if you don’t like it, hit the road.

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      AnonymousTue Nov 12, 11:53:00 AM EST
      Don't get testy.

      But I will now apologize to Miss T.

      Miss T, I apologize. I thought you were the deleter.

      I should have guessed it was Deuce. I did not know.

      I hope you do not continue to enable Whacky's vile posts, as Deuce has done.

      *****

      And I was getting back at Miss T for hurtfully and intentionally calling me a fat ass, when I am only "well nourished" and have a medical report to prove it.

      As to misogyny my Niece calls me the best uncle in the whole wide world. As to racism she certainly isn't white. As to sex she is certainly not male. As to religion she is certainly not Christian, though really either am I. And as to Israel she is certainly not anti-Israel. As to moslems she is tired of them, like most sane people. As to fascism, she would think the charge absurd which it is. As to friends, she says I am the best friend she has ever had. As to intelligence, she is smart as all get out.

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    11. Whacky has turned a thread on chickens from China, into the usual bash the Jews crapperoo.

      Obsession.

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    12. Miss T also once, out of the blue, called me a "Peckerwood".

      I did not know what that meant but have found it is not a compliment.

      Miss T is not exactly an innocent Annie when it comes to this sort of thing.

      :)

      eh, T?

      She also is calling me Bobby Fudd, come to think of it.

      :):)

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    13. Teresita RedingerTue Nov 12, 09:39:00 AM EST
      Maybe Bobby Fudd is their advertising guy.

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    14. Oh, and all this time Anonymous, the Farmer Fudd...
      He was disrespecting Ms T, on a thread about Chinese Chicken ...

      Oh, the Hypocrisy of the fascist Farmer Fudd a misogynist, racist and bigot.

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    2. Fudd Busters InternationalTue Nov 12, 09:53:00 AM EST

      Misogynist and racist, the xenophobic fascist Farmer Fudd is at it again.
      Disrespecting Ms T, even more so when she recognized that she is being attacked by a Fudd, posing as Anonymous

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    3. Fudd Busters International Tue Nov 12, 09:53:00 AM EST
      Misogynist and racist, the xenophobic fascist Farmer Fudd is at it again.

      Your chivalry is an inspiration to us all.

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    4. The Administrative Team should shut down Anonymous and Name/URL posts.

      Allow only legitimate, sign-on Google account holders access to the blog.
      IMHO

      Iit does set a very low bar for participation. but there is no limit to the number of accounts a contributor can carry.

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    5. Fudd Busters InternationalTue Nov 12, 10:05:00 AM EST

      We stand four square in the battle against the proliferation of Fudd, allen.
      As stated previously, no Fudd goes unchallenged.
      We are here to save the reader from being misled by biased and misleading postings from xenophobic fascist Fudds.

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    6. Panama Ed Tue Nov 12, 10:01:00 AM EST
      The Administrative Team should shut down Anonymous and Name/URL posts.

      Allow only legitimate, sign-on Google account holders access to the blog.
      IMHO

      They would have to begin with you, Panama Ed. By the way, is "Panama Ed" the name found on your legitimate driver's license?

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    7. Nope, Panam Ed is a nom de guerre.
      Fear not, allen. The Hegemony of Character will not be derailed by a new Standard.
      We have capacity to open upwards of a dozen Google accounts.

      It may be integral to the success of Improvisational Blogging.
      We stand ready to implement an immediate response to the technological demands of the battle space.

      We would not call for a sanctioning regime we could not manipulate to the advantage of the Hegemony of Character..

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    8. Yep, I am right.

      nom de guerre (nm d gâr)
      n. pl. noms de guerre (nm)

      A fictitious name; a pseudonym.

      [French : nom, name + de, of + guerre, war.]

      Glad we agree, again.

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    9. The good news? In "Panama Ed's" mind he may think this is a game.

      However that criminal complaint I filed with the AZ FBI was no joke, game or allusion.

      Regardless of whether the person behind the " nom de guerre " likes it or not, he is now on the wrong side on being on the radar to the FBI. Of course the " nom de guerre " will argue his lack of arrest attests to his innocence.

      OF course this could not be further from the truth. Arrest, prosecution and conviction takes time and evidence of a crime that can be proved to win a case.

      lt's all remember Al Capone was convicted of Tax Fraud.

      Real world with real world consequences..

      Inciting Jew hatred, violence and the actual wanting of genocide of the Jews of Israel? Can and does have "action and reaction" in the world.

      It's only a matter of time when the authorities catch up to him...

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    10. Most terrorists use several " nom de guerre "

      I wonder what " nom de guerre " this guy used in Guatemala when he assisted in genocide there.

      Let's fact the facts. The man behind these " nom de guerre " are intact guilty by his own admission in participating in that Guatemalan he speaks of so often. It's really a cry for help from a guilty twisted soul..

      hard to live with the blood on his hands he now seeks to make "abortion" murder to ease his guilt.

      i guess there is hope for the nom de guerre in question, he's pain shows that his soul is not entirely dead...

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    11. Love the way a certain someone cuts off the definition..

      [French, literally: war name]


      "nom de guerre [ˈnɒm də ˈgɛə]
      n pl noms de guerre [ˈnɒm də ˈgɛə]
      an assumed name; pseudonym
      [French, literally: war name]"

      used by terrorists....

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    12. FBI card is played, ...
      One More Time!

      and ...
      AWAY WE GO!!!

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    13. MOST people use the term "avatar"

      : an electronic image that represents and is manipulated by a computer user (as in a computer game)

      to name themselves when it deals with blogs.

      but our resident "war name" person is "different"... A special needs kind of person...

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    14. Panama EdTue Nov 12, 11:05:00 AM EST
      FBI card is played, ...
      One More Time!

      and ...
      AWAY WE GO!!!


      Your IP is the same.

      LOL

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    15. I state FACT...

      You have been reported to the AZ FBI for making death threats on this blog.

      You have stated that you had a mole inside the AZ FBI and that he shared the file with you. You stated that I was a "national security" risk and was being investigated.

      Are you a liar or a criminal?

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    17. You see Mr "Nom de guerre" this may be a game to you. But to Homeland Security? Folks that smoke pot (like you have admitted) should not handle guns (like you have admitted) nor should they be "teaching" law enforcement on the handling of weapons in live fire exercises like you have admitted.

      Being a "ex-soldier" like yourself, a drug abuser, like yourself, a "Ollie North" off the books contractor" like you have admitted, should not make threats to the civilians of this nation, like you have and continue to do.

      You are certainly on a watch list, as you have admitted, this is why you cannot travel via commercial means, as your arrest would be certain...

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    18. The Israel First Team has fallen back to their Hegelian tactics.

      When they cannot defeat the ideas, the truths, they go a little gonzo.
      Start making wild accusations

      Really gives a boost to Improvisational Blogging.

      Oh, just look at the opportunities that are presented for plot development, now!

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    19. “You have to do stuff that average people don't understand because those are the only good things.”

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    20. End the OccupationTue Nov 12, 11:30:00 AM EST

      Israel, a secular and socialist state that was built upon ...
      ... the Three Pillars of Apartheid

      The first pillar “derives from Israeli laws and policies that establish Jewish identity for purposes of law and afford a preferential legal status and material benefits to Jews over non-Jews.”

      The second pillar is reflected in
      “Israel’s ‘grand’ policy to fragment the OPT [and] ...
      ... ensure that Palestinians remain confined to the reserves designated for them ...
      ... while Israeli Jews are prohibited from entering those reserves but enjoy freedom of movement...
      ... throughout the rest of the Palestinian territory.

      This policy is evidenced by Israel’s extensive appropriation of Palestinian land,
      which continues to shrink the territorial space available to Palestinians;
      the hermetic closure and isolation of the Gaza Strip from the rest of the OPT;
      the deliberate severing of East Jerusalem from the rest of the West Bank;

      and the appropriation and construction policies serving to carve up the West Bank ...
      ... into an intricate and well-serviced network of connected settlements for Jewish-Israelis ...
      ... and an archipelago of besieged and non-contiguous enclaves for Palestinians.”


      The third pillar is
      “Israel’s invocation of ‘security’ to validate sweeping restrictions on Palestinian freedom of ...
      ... opinion, expression, assembly, association and movement [to] mask a true underlying intent ...
      ... to suppress dissent to its system of domination and thereby maintain control over Palestinians as a group.”

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  10. For now, they “can’t” use Chinese birds, only poultry raised and slaughtered in approved countries like the U.S. and it has to come back “fully” cooked.

    “If it’s cooked, it should be perfectly safe,” said Bill Mattos from the California Poultry Federation.

    Even with cheaper Chinese labor, how does it make economic sense to ship raw poultry nearly six thousand miles all the way to China and back just in order to cook it?

    Some believe it’s about hatching a much bigger deal.

    The plan puts an end to a long trade war with China over poultry and in return, the move creates good will.

    The hope is it will open a lot more doors for American grown food to be sold in China.

    “This is really a big deal for trade. If China likes what we’re doing they’ll buy more products and China has a lot more people,” said Mattos.


    As for chicken processed in China, American poultry producers believe the amount will be miniscule but critics warn it could end up as an ingredient in pot pies, chicken noodle soup and even nuggets and you won’t know it. ”China” won’t be on the label, thanks to a loophole in the law.

    Last year, China sent more than 4 billion pounds of food to the U.S. including half the apple juice we drink, 30% of the garlic we use, and 85% of the tilapia we eat. Now processed chicken may be coming our way.


    http://miami.cbslocal.com/2013/11/08/why-your-chicken-could-be-coming-from-china-soon/

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  11. It actually gets even stranger. China is a corn (chicken feed) Importer. The U.S. is a major supplier of that corn. So, the chickens are going to be fed American corn, regardless of where they're grown.

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  12. Allen,

    Thanks for going back and digging the link out of the crap for me. I enjoyed the article. Doug, you might enjoy it as well.

    http://www.economist.com/blogs/freeexchange/2013/11/economic-history-0

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    1. ...glad you enjoyed it, Ash...

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    2. Rufus might enjoy it as well.

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    3. Tight money caused the Depression, if the 'current' theory is more accurate then the 'past' theories as to the cause of the Depression.

      In which case, Quantitative Easing is the "right" course?

      Keeping liquidity in the markets, at all costs?

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    4. It appears to be generally accepted that tightening in a downturn causes a cascade of problems which eventually bottom out. We have yet to see if the opposite 'fixes' things in the long term avoiding the painful bottom.

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    5. I read it, Ash, right after he posted it the first time. I even broke a long-standing rule against going to unclickable links.

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    6. unclickable links

      What is the process now?

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    7. Teresita probably explains it better than anyone.

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    8. I just have a text file saved on my computer which has a few of the basic codes in it. I then copy and paste from there when I want them. Generally I don't bother though. It is easy enough for someone to copy and paste the link if they want to follow it. If not, then screw 'em.

      http://www.w3schools.com/html/html_basic.asp

      That link has a bunch.

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    9. You have to "trust" the clickable link.

      The highlight the link and right click, 'open link in new tab', technique is just as quick ...
      and you know where you are going.

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  13. Talkin' about chicken pluckin' diseases, this has got to hurt.

    Bill Clinton: 'President Should Honor the Commitment' and Let People Keep Their Insurance Plans
    http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/bill-clinton-president-should-honor-commitment-and-let-people-keep-their-insurance-plans_766944.html

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  14. I did the deleting and if you don’t like it, hit the road.

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    1. Don't get testy.

      But I will now apologize to Miss T.

      Miss T, I apologize. I thought you were the deleter.

      I should have guessed it was Deuce. I did not know.

      I hope you do not continue to enable Whacky's vile posts, as Deuce has done.

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    2. You can't blame anyone else, ... , no one but yourself.
      You have to make your own choices and live every agonizing day with the consequences of those choices.”

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    3. Ifeanyi Enoch OnuohaTue Nov 12, 12:07:00 PM EST

      “In you is the ability that will move you from nonentity and mediocrity to an entity of meteority.
      Take responsibility now!”

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  15. Netanyahu is destroying Kerry's peace process - and the State of Israel

    Kerry's effort to re-launch the peace process was based on the illusion that Netanyahu is committed to a two-state solution; its failure means that it's only a matter of time before the Palestinians fight back.

    By Henry Siegman

    ... no one familiar with the Israel-Palestine conflict, and the failure of half a century of negotiations to produce anything other than Israeli measures intended to create irreversible facts on the ground in order to prevent a two-state outcome, can believe that the peace process Kerry managed to relaunch against all odds can succeed.

    The reason failure is foreordained is painfully obvious, if unacknowledged. Previous peace initiatives did not fail because the Israeli-Palestinian conflict uniquely defies solution. They failed because the overriding strategic goal of Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, and of most previous Israeli heads of state, has been and continues to be Israel’s permanent control of all of Palestine.


    http://www.haaretz.com/opinion/.premium-1.557637

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    1. .


      The same point I made yesterday.


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    2. Incoming rounds leave the impression that no one is in charge of the children.

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    3. End the OccupationTue Nov 12, 12:46:00 PM EST

      Operation Cast Lead ....
      The Children have lots of toys ...

      According to the Israel Defense Forces (IDF), more than 100 tons of explosives were dropped in the first 9 hours of combat alone.

      http://www.palestine-studies.org/files/pdf/jps/10341.pdf

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    4. End the OccupationTue Nov 12, 12:53:00 PM EST

      What is the combined tonnage of all the rockets that Hamas has fired into the Israeli portion of Palestine, since 2010?

      What is the justification for the IDF using White Phosphorous weapons in Operation Cast Lead in civilian areas.

      The Israeli human rights organization B’Tselem observed that under international law,

      “such [incendiary] weapons may only be used against military objects.
      When the military object is located within a civilian area, the use of phosphorus is absolutely prohibited.”


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    5. There are no strictly "civilian areas" within the PA. Women, children, and institutions like hospitals have duel purposes, one being fortification. As has been graphically demonstrated, brave Muslim warriors use human shields - tough that.

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    6. End the OccupationTue Nov 12, 01:34:00 PM EST

      There are 'only' civilians areas in Gaza.

      The Hamas elements are uncommon criminals, not a military.
      The IDF is a terrorist organization, that attacks civilian populations.

      Has since the founding of their polity, the secular state of Israel.

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    7. End the OccupationTue Nov 12, 01:38:00 PM EST

      1948, April 9-April 11 ... 107-120 Palestinians killed and massacred (the estimate generally accepted by scholars, instead the first announced number of 254) during and after the battle at the village of Deir Yassin near Jerusalem, by 132 Irgun and 60 Lehi fighters. - wiki

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    8. End the OccupationTue Nov 12, 01:40:00 PM EST

      SOME EARLY EXAMPLES OF JEWISH-ZIONIST TERROR.


      August 20, 1937 - June 29, 1939. During this period, the Zionists carried out a series of attacks against Arab buses, resulting in the death of 24 persons and wounding 25 others.

      November 25, 1940. S.S.Patria was blown up by Jewish terrorists in Haifa harbour, killing 268 illegal Jewish immigrants (see below).

      November 6, 1944. Zionist terrorists of the Stern Gang assassinated the British Minister Resident in the Middle East, Lord Moyne, in Cairo.

      July 22, 1946. Zionist terrorists blew up the King David Hotel in Jerusalem, which housed the central offices of the civilian administration of the government of Palestine, killing or injuring more than 200 persons. The Irgun officially claimed responsibility for the incident, but subsequent evidence indicated that both the Haganah and the Jewish Agency were involved.

      October 1, 1946. The British Embassy in Rome was badly damaged by bomb explosions, for which Irgun claimed responsibility.

      June 1947. Letters sent to British Cabinet Ministers were found to contain bombs.

      September 3, 1947. A postal bomb addressed to the British War Office exploded in the post office sorting room in London, injuring 2 persons. It was attributed to Irgun or Stern Gangs. (The Sunday Times, Sept. 24, 1972, p.8)

      December 11, 1947. Six Arabs were killed and 30 wounded when bombs were thrown from Jewish trucks at Arab buses in Haifa; 12 Arabs were killed and others injured in an attack by armed Zionists on an Arab coastal village near Haifa.

      December 13,1947. Zionist terrorists, believed to be members of Irgun Zvai Leumi, killed 18 Arabs and wounded nearly 60 in Jerusalem, Jaffa and Lydda areas. In Jerusalem, bombs were thrown in an Arab market-place near the Damascus Gate; in Jaffa, bombs were thrown into an Arab cafe; in the Arab village of Al Abbasya, near Lydda, 12 Arabs were killed in an attack with mortars and automatic weapons.

      December 19, 1947. Haganah terrorists attacked an Arab village near Safad, blowing up two houses, in the ruins of which were found the bodies of 10 Arabs, including 5 children. Haganah admitted responsibility for the attack.

      December 29, 1947. Two British constables and 11 Arabs were killed and 32 Arabs injured, at the Damascus Gate in Jerusalem when Irgun members threw a bomb from a taxi.

      December 30,1947. A mixed force of the Zionist Palmach and the "Carmel Brigade" attacked the village of Balad al Sheikh, killing more than 60 Arabs.

      1947 -- 1948. Over 700,000 Palestinian Arabs were uprooted from their homes and land, and forced to live in refugee camps on Israel's borders. They have been denied the right to return to their homes. They have been refused compensation for their homes, orchards, farms and other property stolen from them by the Israeli government. After their expulsion, the "Israeli Forces" totally obliterated (usually by bulldozing) 385 Arab villages and towns, out of a total of 475. Commonly, Israeli villages were built on the remaining rubble.



      http://guardian.150m.com/palestine/jewish-terrorism.htm

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    9. End the OccupationTue Nov 12, 01:41:00 PM EST

      January 1, 1948. Haganah terrorists attacked a village on the slopes of Mount Carmel; 17 Arabs were killed and 33 wounded.

      January 4, 1948. Haganah terrorists wearing British Army uniforms penetrated into the center of Jaffa and blew up the Serai (the old Turkish Government House) which was used as a headquarters of the Arab National Committee, killing more than 40 persons and wounding 98 others.

      January 5, 1948. The Arab-owned Semiramis Hotel in Jerusalem was blown up, killing 20 persons, among them Viscount de Tapia, the Spanish Consul. Haganah admitted responsibility for this crime.

      January 7, 1948. Seventeen Arabs were killed by a bomb at the Jaffa Gate in Jerusalem, 3 of them while trying to escape. Further casualties, including the murder of a British officer near Hebron, were reported from different parts of the country.

      January 16, 1948. Zionists blew up three Arab buildings. In the first, 8 children between the ages of 18 months and 12 years, died.

      December 13, 1947 -- February 10, 1948. Seven incidents of bomb-tossing at innocent Arab civilians in cafes and markets, killing 138 and wounding 271 others, During this period, there were 9 attacks on Arab buses. Zionists mined passenger trains on at least 4 occasions, killing 93 persons and wounding 161 others.

      February 15, 1948. Haganah terrorists attacked an Arab village near Safad, blew up several houses, killing 11 Arabs, including 4 children..

      March 3, 1948. Heavy damage was done to the Arab-owned Salam building in Haifa (a 7 story block of apartments and shops) by Zionists who drove an army lorry ( truck) up to the building and escaped before the detonation of 400 Ib. of explosives; casualties numbered 11 Arabs and 3 Armenians killed and 23 injured. The Stern Gang claimed responsibility for the incident.

      March 22, 1948. A housing block in Iraq Street in Haifa was blown up killing 17 and injuring 100 others. Four members of the Stern Gang drove two truck-loads of explosives into the street and abandoned the vehicles before the explosion.

      March 31, 1948. The Cairo-Haifa Express was mined, for the second time in a month, by an electronically-detonated land mine near Benyamina, killing 40 persons and wounding 60 others.

      April 9, 1948. A combined force of Irgun Zvai Leumi and the Stern Gang, supported by the Palmach forces, captured the Arab village of Deir Yassin and killed more than 200 unarmed civilians, including countless women and children. Older men and young women were captured and paraded in chains in the Jewish Quarter of Jerusalem; 20 of the hostages were then shot in the quarry of Gevaat Shaul.

      April 16, 1948. Zionists attacked the former British army camp at Tel Litvinsky, killing 90 Arabs there.

      April 19, 1948. Fourteen Arabs were killed in a house in Tiberias, which was blown up by Zionist terrorists.

      May 3, 1948. A book bomb addressed to a British Army officer, who had been stationed in Palestine exploded, killing his brother, Rex Farran.

      May11, 1948. A letter bomb addressed to Sir Evelyn Barker, former Commanding Officer in Palestine, was detected in the nick of time by his wife.

      April 25, 1948 -- May 13, 1948. Wholesale looting of Jaffa was carried out following armed attacks by Irgun and Haganah terrorists. They stripped and carried away everything they could, destroying what they could not take with them.

      http://guardian.150m.com/palestine/jewish-terrorism.htm

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    10. End the OccupationTue Nov 12, 01:44:00 PM EST

      November 25, 1940.
      In September, 1940, around 3,000 Jewish refugees from Vienna, Prague and Danzig were attempting to reach Palestine.
      In a convoy of four river steamers, they set sail down the Danube and reached the Romanian port of Tulcea where they transferred to three Greek cargo ships named Atlantic, Pacific and Milos.

      Conditions on board these three ships were horrendous, reminiscent of Japanese hell-ships later in the war.
      Eventually the ships reached Palestinian waters, but the British Colonial Office refused them permission to land.
      It was finally decided to deport the refugees to the island of Mauritius where a special camp was to be built.
      The three ships were then brought into Haifa harbour where the liner Patria was berthed.

      The refugees were then embarked on the Patria and as the last passengers from the Atlantic were coming on board, a tremendous explosion ripped the liner apart.

      The death toll amounted to 267 refugees killed.

      The explosion was the work of the Jewish underground army, the Haganah, who had meant only to damage the ship to prevent it sailing but had miscalculated the amount of explosives needed to disable the ship.

      Many say that this was no miscalculation and was deliberate murder of Jews by Jews, in an attempt to influence British immigration policy to Palestine.

      http://guardian.150m.com/palestine/jewish-terrorism.htm

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    11. End the OccupationTue Nov 12, 01:45:00 PM EST

      The first act of air piracy in the history of civil aviation was carried out by Israel, in Dec. 1954, when a civilian Syrian airliner was forced down in Tel Aviv and its passengers and crew held for days, despite international condemnation.

      In 1968, Israeli commandos blew up 13 civilian airliners at Beirut airport in Lebanon.

      The first deliberate shooting down a civilian airliner was carried out by Israel, when a Libyan airliner was shot down by Israeli jet fighters over Sinai, in Feb. 1973, on the direct orders of Israeli Prime Minister Golda Meir, killing all 107 of its passengers and the entire French crew.

      http://guardian.150m.com/palestine/jewish-terrorism.htm

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    12. .

      This is all sidebar.

      The pertinent statement in the Haartz quote was

      The reason failure is foreordained is painfully obvious, if unacknowledged. Previous peace initiatives did not fail because the Israeli-Palestinian conflict uniquely defies solution. They failed because the overriding strategic goal of Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, and of most previous Israeli heads of state, has been and continues to be Israel’s permanent control of all of Palestine.

      This is what I referred to, and anyone one who has read up on the 'negotiations' through the years shouldn't disagree. From Shamir through Sharon and now back to Netanyahu the Israeli view on the negotiations has been pretty consistent and rather cynical. And now, with the value of land on the West Bank increasing in value on a number of fronts, the chance of a two-state solution is nil.

      Either Kerry is lost in his own little lalaland or he is also just deeply cynical.


      Incoming rounds leave the impression that no one is in charge of the children.

      Anyone who has looked at the 'negotiations' on a two-state solution over the last two decades can only come to one conclusion that being that they were a sham, merely a ploy to deflect criticism and to stall for time as the West Bank was gradually annexed.

      In a 2001 video, Netanyahu, reportedly unaware he was being recorded, said: "They asked me before the election if I'd honor [the Oslo accords]... I said I would, but [that] I'm going to interpret the accords in such a way that would allow me to put an end to this galloping forward to the '67 borders. How did we do it? Nobody said what defined military zones were. Defined military zones are security zones; as far as I'm concerned, the entire Jordan Valley is a defined military zone. Go argue."[10][11] Netanyahu then explained how he conditioned his signing of the 1997 Hebron agreement on American consent that there be no withdrawals from "specified military locations", and insisted he be allowed to specify which areas constituted a "military location"—such as the whole of the Jordan Valley. "Why is that important? Because from that moment on I stopped the Oslo Accords", Netanyahu affirmed.[12]

      .

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    13. End the OccupationTue Nov 12, 02:34:00 PM EST

      The third pillar of the Israeli Apartheid System is

      “Israel’s invocation of ‘security’ to validate sweeping restrictions on Palestinian freedom of ...
      ... opinion, expression, assembly, association and movement [to] mask a true underlying intent ...
      ... to suppress dissent to its system of domination and thereby maintain control over Palestinians as a group.”

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  16. Israel To Pay For Pro-Israeli Social Media Propaganda


    The move was publicised in a statement from Israeli prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu's office, the Associated Press reported. Students will receive scholarships to "engage international audiences online" and combat anti-Semitism and calls to boycott Israel, it was alleged.

    In 2012, a Palestinian-run blog reported similar arrangements between the National Union of Israeli Students and the Israeli government. Students would be paid $2,000 to post pro-Israel messages online for five hours a week.

    According to Israeli daily newspaper Haaretz, the most recent proposition is being spearheaded by Danny Seaman, who was slammed by the media for writing anti-Muslim messages on Facebook.

    Students will be organised into units at each university, with a chief co-ordinator who receives a full scholarship, three desk co-ordinators for language, graphics and research who receive lesser scholarships and students termed “activists” who will receive a “minimal scholarship”, the Independent reported.

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    1. “Think of the press as a great keyboard on which the government can play.”

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    2. Joseph Goebbels is also an inspiration to us all. Any man who will murder his five children, dog, and wife for a lost cause is the kind of guy who will post, over years, tens of thousands of anti-Semitic rants. Yes, Goebbels is a good fit.

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    3. End the OccupationTue Nov 12, 12:55:00 PM EST

      Yep, he is illustrative of the basic truths behind the techniques being employed by the Israeli government.

      Using the same techniques of agitprop.

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    4. End the OccupationTue Nov 12, 12:59:00 PM EST

      The same philosophy of propaganda, its uses and methods, used by the NAZI and the Israeli.

      The use of ghettos to segregate a portion of the population.
      Illustrative, again, of the means and methods shared by the NAZI and the Israeli.

      "The so-called “Palestinian autonomous areas” are Bantustans. These are restricted entities within the power structure of the Israeli Apartheid system." - N. Mandela

      The Palestinians are in their "Ghettos", on their "Reserves"

      Palestinian lackeys rule over the fractured and factionalized Palestinians, $100 million a month the Israeli pay their house boy Arabs in baksheesh.

      Just as the Germans used Ashkenazi guards in the Warsaw Ghetto.

      The first commander of the Warsaw ghetto was Józef Szeryński, a Polish-Jewish police colonel.

      Warsaw Ghetto archivist Emanuel Ringelblum has described the cruelty of the ghetto police as ...
      "at times greater than that of the Germans, the Ukrainians and the Latvians."

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    5. Jews stay out of Palestinian areas, unless heavily armed, for fear of torture and death. The same does not hold true for Arabs; they come and go as they please, with special attention, of course, because they have this nasty habit of exploding unexpectedly. Everyone gets along quite nicely, if cautiously.

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    6. End the OccupationTue Nov 12, 01:16:00 PM EST

      Israel's 'equality under law' doesn't apply to Palestinians
      Israel's pretention to be a country with a just legal system appears ridiculous in the face of the other justice system that applies to juveniles that are not Palestinian.
      Haaretz Editorial
      http://www.haaretz.com/print-edition/opinion/israel-s-equality-under-law-doesn-t-apply-to-palestinians-1.373978

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    7. End the OccupationTue Nov 12, 01:21:00 PM EST

      Under Israeli military occupation, millions of Palestinians live in conditions which closely resemble the apartheid system that existed in South Africa:
      • No right of free speech, assembly or movement
      • Arrest and imprisonment without charge or trial
      • Torture
      • House searches without warrant
      • Assassination, extra-judicial murder
      • No right to vote for the Israeli government (even though it controls their lives)
      Israel controls all Palestinian borders, all imports and exports, and all movement between towns and cities. 

      THE GAZA STRIP, still surrounded, besieged and controlled by Israel, has been sealed off and effectively turned into the world’s largest open-air prison.

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    8. Your concern about Jewish outreach is well founded. As pointed out in Protocols of the Elders of Zion, "if you can get the goy to eat matzo ball soup, half the battle of brain washing will be done. Hit the goyim with latkes and they are nothing more than putty in our hands."

      Great catch End of Occupation; keep your nose to the ground.

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    9. Re:THE GAZA STRIP, still surrounded, besieged and controlled by Israel, has been sealed off and effectively turned into the world’s largest open-air prison.

      You forgot the Jewish-Egyptians who also border on Gaza. I am certain it was an accidental oversight.

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    10. “Netanyahu suggested to me that we relocate those Gazans to Sinai, but I refused and told him to forget it, neither I nor anyone bigger than me will be able to mess with the Egypt’s borders,”

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    11. That the governments of Israel and Egypt have discussed how to handle their mutual miscreants makes my point.

      Re:THE GAZA STRIP, still surrounded, besieged and controlled by Israel, has been sealed off and effectively turned into the world’s largest open-air prison.

      You forgot the Jewish-Egyptians who also border on Gaza. I am certain it was an accidental oversight.

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    12. “Netanyahu suggested to me that we relocate those Gazans to Sinai, but I refused and told him to forget it, neither I nor anyone bigger than me will be able to mess with the Egypt’s borders,”

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  17. I see Whacky is back to one of his obsessions, bashing Israel, on a thread about chickens from China.

    I would rather eat a chicken from Israel than a chicken from China but other than that I see no connection between the two topics.

    Do you?

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    1. Fudd Busters InternationalTue Nov 12, 12:12:00 PM EST

      Sure, both are objects dealt with by the Foreign Policy of the United States.
      Both are a direct consequence of deliberate decisions made by people that can be influenced by the people of the United States, if only they were better informed.

      The tie that binds, the US Federal Government.
      Its role in the world, in the lives of its citizens and the people beyond its borders.

      The battle against Fudds, it knows no bounds.

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    2. “Silent acquiescence in the face of tyranny is no better than outright agreement.”

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  18. This is an excellent comment:

    allenTue Nov 12, 12:45:00 PM EST
    Joseph Goebbels is also an inspiration to us all. Any man who will murder his five children, dog, and wife for a lost cause is the kind of guy who will post, over years, tens of thousands of anti-Semitic rants. Yes, Goebbels is a good fit.


    Perhaps it is a good thing Whacky keeps it up so relentlessly. No one that is sane would be influenced by his continuing obsessed posts, except in a negative way, and that may be a good thing.

    Why Deuce allows him to go on and on and on and on with it is simply beyond me.

    The blog is being ruined.

    out for rest of the daylight day...

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    1. The more he posts the better. Most microbes are killed by direct exposure to light.

      That he spends his days and nights glued to his chair keeps him off the streets.

      Imagine a nation(s) filled with such fellows. But you don't have to imagine; See: The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich (1960), Shirer. Shirer and many other students of Hitler and his followers posit that he was asexual (sadomasochistism) with the fetishes of urolagnia and coprophilia. About half the women close to him were registered as suicides.

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    2. Some people talk of morality, and some of religion, but give me a little snug property. 

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  19. :)

    Video of White Supremacist learning from black talk-show host that his DNA is 86% European

    14% Sub-Saharan African

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    1. He took the truth in stride!

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    2. :) Yeah, 14% is a Whole Lot of "background noise." :) :) :)

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    3. When the Ashkenazi discovered they were 86% European, the reaction was not nearly as humorous.

      In their case it is denial and accusations of Antisemitism.

      When, in truth, the Ashkenazi are not a Semitic people, at all.
      So the term anti-Semitic can not even refer to the Ashkenazi.
      Anti-Semitic was a propaganda term introduced by a Jew hating German agitator and publicist, Wilhelm Marr, in 1879.

      That Wilhelm Marr was not capable of knowing that the Ashkenazi lacked genetic roots in the Middle East, just more evidence of his ignorance.

      The Ashkenazi have embraced the terminology introduced by Wilhelm Marr,which seems illustrative of the Fudd Syndrome, "Internalizing the Negativity" or a "Subconscious Embrace of the Truth" ...

      Not being a psychiatrist, I leave the diagnosis of social pathologies to others.

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    4. The science of Genetics ...

      We are all "Out of Africa"

      Lovin' Every Minute of It!


      aaaah Haaa!

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    5. The metaphorical analogies that are dropping into the Farmer Fudd account ...

      Just amazing ...

      This Improvisational Blogging, it's got legs, baby, it's really got legs.

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    6. "Not being a psychiatrist, I leave the diagnosis of social pathologies to others."

      Your problem is you need a psychiatrist. Your should leave the diagnosis of your social pathologies to others, to a competent psychiatrist.

      You are crazy

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    7. “In fact, not forgiving is like drinking rat poison and waiting for the rat to die.”

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    8. “Eleanor looked up, surprised; the little girl was sliding back in her chair, sullenly refusing her milk,
      while her father frowned and her brother giggled and her mother said calmly,
      'She wants her parve chocolate.'

      Indeed yes, Eleanor thought; indeed, so do I; parve chocolate, of course.

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    9. .

      To paraphrase a chubby Chinaman, he who embarks on a journey of revenge should dig two graves.

      To paraphrase a small Canadian, rat, you have stumbled into the rat-hole and can't get up.

      Take the red pill and embrace reality.

      :)

      .

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    10. "Make no mistake, it's not revenge he's after. It's a reckonin'. "

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    11. Rat's insanity is quite amazing to see… One can only wonder what people in real life think of this "cyber fart" of a man?

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    12. "When you stop doing things for fun you might as well be dead."

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    13. Panama Ed Tue Nov 12, 02:55:00 PM EST
      When the Ashkenazi discovered they were 86% European, the reaction was not nearly as humorous.

      Ashkenazi know they are European. They came from places such as Germany, France, Poland, Russia. You are the only person I know who is even remotely concerned about this - whatever floats your boat.

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    14. So those Ashkenazi all "know" they have no ancestral claim to Palestine.

      Cool, then it will not bother anyone when others, the less knowledgeable, are told and the Ashkenazi are reminded of their lack of ancestral claims to that land in Palestine.

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    15. The Ashkenazi know nothing of the sort,

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  20. Wow, Rat spent a lot of time cutting en a pasting….

    LOL

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    1. George Gordon ByronTue Nov 12, 03:10:00 PM EST

      “But words are things, and a small drop of ink,
      Falling, like dew, upon a thought produces
      That which makes thousands, perhaps millions think.”

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    2. George Gordon ByronTue Nov 12, 03:10:00 PM EST
      “But words are things, and a small drop of ink,

      ...or scroll on by...

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    3. But, instead you stopped, read, thought, cut, pasted, wrote and then posted.

      Improvisational Blogging scores again!

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  21. Was Jesus' Brother's Burial Box Vandalized?
    Nov 12, 2013 10:20 AM ET // by FoxNews.com


    A limestone box said to have once held the bones of the brother of Jesus was at the center of the most controversial forgery case in decades -- and it was allegedly vandalized by the Israeli government before being returned to its owner.

    Called the James ossuary, it is a small stone box with an inscription that reads, "James, son of Joseph, brother of Jesus."

    That Jesus had a sibling at all is a controversial idea disputed by the Roman Catholic Church. If the box itself were authentic, it would be considered the first physical link to Jesus.

    A three-judge panel of Israeli Supreme Court justices ordered the Israel Antiquities Authority (IAA) to return the box and several other artifacts to antiquities collector Oded Golan last month, after the agency spent 10 years accusing Golan of forging the items.

    The box will soon go on display for the public to view for the first time since 2002. There's just one problem: Reddish stains now appear over the inscription, remnants of a silicon substance applied by the Israel Police Forensics Laboratory to help determine the authenticity of the James ossuary.

    The contamination might make it impossible to ever fully determine if this ancient relic is forged or real.

    "The Israeli police, with permission of the IAA, made a red silicon mold of the inscription -- destroying the 'letter patina' by pulling out this 'soft' patina ... thus destroying evidence," said the geologists who first studied the ossuary in 2002, according to Jerusalem-based journalist Matthew Kalman who has covered Golan's trial extensively. "Consequently, the alleged small amount of masking letter patina is absent now and cannot be studied further."

    A patina is a tarnish that forms on objects after a long period of time. It is one factor archaeologists use to determine the authenticity of artifacts.

    Judge Aharon Farkash who presided over the case agreed that the process of making the mold left damage to the box and left him with reasonable doubt regarding Golan's guilty charge, Kalman reported.

    "There is no dispute that the casting of the silicon by the forensics people changed the physical condition of the inscription of the ossuary," Judge Farkash said.

    There is also confusion over the decision to create a silicon mold. The police officer who led the investigation testified that he asked the forensics lab to only "examine" the ossuary and not to carry out invasive tests, according to Kalman's report.

    An IAA member who was part of the team of experts that ruled the ossuary a fake testified for the defense in regards to the contamination.

    "I saw a picture of what happened to the ossuary," Orna Cohen told the court, calling it "contaminated," according to Kalman. "It will be hard to say anything about the ossuary itself."

    Golan spoke out over his frustration that the ossuary was damaged when returned to him.

    "It's not in the same condition as before the trial," Golan told Kalman. "The inscription was defaced, contaminated. The government said the second half of the inscription was forged -- the words 'brother of Jesus' -- and that's where the major damage has been done."

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    1. Why would the additional words "the brother of Jesus" appear on this box, rather than just the more normal "James, the son of ......so and so"?

      Jesus had not exactly obtained superhero status at the time.

      And why not "James the brother of Jesus, Joseph (Joses), Judas (Jude) and Simon?

      eh?

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    2. Inscription it is widely believed will appear on desert rat's bone box -

      "rat, the son of ?, a mistake of nature"

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    3. “He showed the words “chocolate cake” to a group of Americans and recorded their word associations.

      “Guilt” was the top response.

      If that strikes you as unexceptional, consider the response of French eaters to the same prompt:
      “Celebration.”





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  22. So rat is now a "kosher expert" except he aint….

    E. NewmanTue Nov 12, 03:34:00 PM EST
    “Eleanor looked up, surprised; the little girl was sliding back in her chair, sullenly refusing her milk,
    while her father frowned and her brother giggled and her mother said calmly,
    'She wants her parve chocolate.'

    Indeed yes, Eleanor thought; indeed, so do I; parve chocolate, of course.

    He actually makes NO sense…

    None….

    Nada..

    Zip…

    Zero…

    Just a confused anti-semite trying to be cute or annoying…

    Either way?

    He's just illiterate. Really understand nothing and it shows.

    Just a moron.

    A cyber fart.

    That is the legacy of the Rat..

    A waste of humanity.

    A cyber fart.

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    1. For someone that does even post to the thread, this ;Rat', this 'cyber fart' keeps you boys fully engaged.

      You seem to be wasting your time.
      Then again, it is your time to waste.

      Your rants, we can be sure, are not changing his mind
      They are not very impressive to the casual reader, either.

      So much attention, time, effort all spent on a 'Rat'.

      The ideas he promotes, they have you that scared?

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    2. Trust me it takes no effort to respond to the cyber fart.

      But it's always fun to watch you melt down and froth at the mouth.

      Fact is? Your hatred of Israel and Jews? Is going to give you a heart attack...

      Just let us know where to mail you some fat burgers w/ extra cheese and bacon when it happens...

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    3. AnonymousTue Nov 12, 04:47:00 PM EST

      Excellent, anon.

      Welcome to rat exterminators anonymous

      :)

      That was really quite excellent.

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    4. W. Somerset MaughamTue Nov 12, 05:26:00 PM EST

      “You're beginning to dislike me, aren't you?
      Well, dislike me. It doesn't make any difference to me now.”

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  23. Crude oil lost 2.2%, to $93.04 a barrel, settling at the lowest level in five months amid fears of increasing domestic supplies and high production, while gold gave up 0.8%, to $1,271.10 a troy ounce, to settle at a one-month low.

    In corporate news, D.R. Horton DHI +4.71% gained 85 cents, or 4.7%, to $18.91, after the home builder reported fiscal fourth-quarter earnings and home sales that rose in line with analyst estimates.

    Dish Network jumped 2.85, or 6%, to 50.35, after the company reported a better-than-expected third-quarter profit, boosted by higher revenue and subscriber rolls.

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  24. Most terrorists use several " nom de guerre "

    I wonder what " nom de guerre " this guy used in Guatemala when he assisted in genocide there.

    Let's fact the facts. The man behind these " nom de guerre " are intact guilty by his own admission in participating in that Guatemalan he speaks of so often. It's really a cry for help from a guilty twisted soul..

    hard to live with the blood on his hands he now seeks to make "abortion" murder to ease his guilt.

    i guess there is hope for the nom de guerre in question, he's pain shows that his soul is not entirely dead...

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    1. American Jackal?

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    2. End the OccupationTue Nov 12, 05:31:00 PM EST

      according to former Israeli intelligence officer Ari Ben-Menashe, who described some of the history behind Israel’s activities in Guatemala in his 1992 memoir, Profits of War.

      Ben-Menashe traced the Israeli arms sales to Guatemala back to a private network established in the 1970s by Gen. Ariel Sharon during a gap when he was out of the government. Sharon’s key representative in Guatemala was a businessman named Pesach Ben-Or, and through that channel, Israel supplied military gear to Guatemala’s security services in the 1980s, Ben-Menashe wrote.

      In an interview on Thursday, Ben-Menashe said the Israelis supplied a total of six helicopters to the Guatemalans along with computers and software to keep track of alleged subversives who could then be identified and executed. Ben-Menashe said he learned of the mass slaughters during his travels to Guatemala and reported back to his Israeli superiors about the atrocities involving the equipment that they had authorized. The response, he said, was concern but inaction.

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    3. ...those terrible Jews...

      Hamas officials said Egypt's closure of tunnels had caused a severe economic crisis in Gaza, home to 1.8 million people, slowed construction, caused sharp fuel and power shortages and led to hike in prices.

      http://news.yahoo.com/hamas-polices-seas-tunnel-smuggling-suffers-135142889.html

      Why people so mean to the poor Palestinians?

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    4. When Congress forbade U.S. forces to train the internal police forces of other countries-passed in 1974 - the Israelis stepped in and
      "set up their intelligence network, tried and tested on the West Bank and Gaza."

      Israeli noncommissioned officers were also said to have been hired by big landowners to train their private security details.

      These private squads, together with "off-duty military officers formed the fearsome 'death squads' which later spread to neighboring El Salvador, where they have been responsible for an estimated 20,000-30,000 murders of left-wing dissidents."

      The Guatemalan military is very conscious of that achievement, even proud of it.

      In 1979, the Guatemalan interior minister paid a "secret and confidential" visit to Israel, where he met with the manufacturers of "sophisticated police equipment.
      In March of the following year Interior Minister Donaldo Alvarez Ruiz was in Israel to conclude an agreement for police training.

      Following the overthrow of Lucas Garcia, the home of Interior Minister Alvarez was raided, "uncovering underground jail cells, stolen vehicles...[and] scores of gold graduation rings, wrenched from the fingers of police torture victims."

      In 1983 that there were 300 Israeli advisers in Guatemala, working "in the security structures and in the army."
      Other reports were less specific as to numbers, but suggested that these Israeli advisers, "some official, others private," performed a variety of functions.
      Israelis "helped Guatemalan internal security agents hunt underground rebel groups."

      Israeli advisers have worked with the feared G-2 police intelligence unit. overseen by the army general staff, the G-2 is the intelligence agency - sections charged with "the elimination of individuals" are stationed at every army base - which has been largely responsible for the death squad killings over the last decade.

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    5. You assert that Israel is different than France, UK, Russia, China? Training folks for police or paramilitary service is not a crime. If you have proof that Jews were engaged in slaughtering civilians, please make that available.

      By the way, General Haig loved the Jews and was extraordinarily helpful during the Yom Kippur War. He is something of a hero in Israel.

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    6. Selling war goods is an old and honored profession. Some of America's founders (e.g. Paul Revere) grew quite wealthy from the trade. Selling weapons is not against the law. You may not have liked the outcome of your little police action, but that is a personal problem. Take it up with the chaplain.

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  25. Forty House Republicans filed a brief last week in support of a legal challenge against ObamaCare that argues the law imposes billions of dollars in new taxes but did not originate in the House, as tax bills must under the Constitution.

    Rep. Trent Franks (R-Ariz.) spearheaded the effort by filing a "friend of the court" brief on Friday with the U.S. Court of Appeals for the DC circuit. That brief argued that ObamaCare violated the Origination Clause of the Constitution, which holds that all bills for raising revenue "shall originate in the House."

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    1. "Forty House Republicans filed a brief last week in support of a legal challenge against ObamaCare that argues the law imposes billions of dollars in new taxes but did not originate in the House, as tax bills must under the Constitution."

      ---

      These new taxes are necessary to revive the economy from the Bush Depression Years.
      Damn The Constitution,
      Full Speed Ahead!

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    2. "Oh what a tangled web we weave, When first we practice to deceive!"

      (Not by any stretch claiming to be in Rat's league, nor if I were, would I have the time.)

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    3. allen
      Tue Nov 12, 01:52:00 PM EST

      The more he posts the better. Most microbes are killed by direct exposure to light.

      That he spends his days and nights glued to his chair keeps him off the streets.

      ---

      Really, Rat:

      Shouldn't you be out riding the range, or scouting for that retirement adobe south of the border?

      Besides, I'm a slow reader, so even if I am entertained, I become collateral damage by being detained.

      Thus, I only show up periodically.

      Of course some regard that as a good thing.

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  26. There must be some chicken pluckers out there somewhere.

    Americans’ Participation in Labor Force Hits 35-Year Low
    http://cnsnews.com/news/article/ali-meyer/americans-participation-labor-force-hits-35-year-low

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  27. Had a gap in the calender Doug ...
    The summer went so well, the grass has not stopped growing, which made life much easier.
    The water has been plentiful, much less time consumed not having to haul it ...
    The retail horse market still sucks, so there is no point in riding six head a day.

    There turned out to be more time to devote to this than I had originally planned, but this Improvisational Blogging is so much fun ...

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    1. I thought rain evaporated as soon as it struck the sand in AZ.

      Shows what I know about AZ.

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    2. AZ is climate by altitude, Doug.
      Below 5,000 ft we have the Sonoran desert.
      Lots of vegetation, little of it edible.
      By man or beast.

      Above 5,000 ft, the weather moderates in the summers, never much more than 100 degrees, winters it may hard freeze a couple times a year. It rains and we have grassland prairies.

      The summer range, up around 7,000 ft, the summers are fabulous. Winters are damned cold.
      This year it rained and rained and rained.
      The stock tanks all filled, first time in over a decade that happened.
      High pine tree forests, about as many acres in timber as here are in Michigan.

      Cattle prices are solid.
      Horse market is shot to shit.

      The Snowbirds will not be here for another month or so.



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    3. Same as Maui.
      Microclimates Rule.
      We live where we get 3-5 inches a year.
      Twenty Five Miles away: 350 inches!
      ---
      Horse market is shot to shit.

      What happened to the horse mkt?

      (I'm bettin it's Bush or Brownies fault)

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    4. "The summer range, up around 7,000 ft, the summers are fabulous."

      Forget how far it is from Palm Springs to Idylwild CA, but it ain't much: Around 30 miles.

      When it's 120 in Palm Springs, it's glorious in Idylwilld at about 6 thousand feet.
      That and Carlsbad on the Coast is where the Wife's family would vacation.

      I was stuck in the middle of nowhere getting 110 degrees and 5 inches.
      Trips to sanity were a bit longer.

      Stable employment now at the Prisons.
      Used to be Standard Oil and Halliburton back in my day.

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  28. At long last, an honest appraisal from AP.

    The Palestinians claim the West Bank, east Jerusalem and the Gaza Strip, territories captured by Israel in 1967, for an independent state. They say Israeli settlement construction on the lands they claim is a sign of bad faith.

    Note: "claim". That is correct, final boundaries have been impossible to draw in the face of war and a willingness to treat in good faith.

    ISRAEL HALTS PLANS TO EXPLORE NEW SETTLEMENTS
    http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/M/ML_ISRAEL_PALESTINIANS?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2013-11-12-17-07-30

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    1. The Palestinians that make the reduced "claim" to the pre-1967 green lines are the lackeys of the Israeli ...
      ... the recipients of the $100 million per month in baksheesh.

      The people of Palestine will not agree to those lines or those terms.
      That much is abundantly clear.

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    2. What is a Semite? Tue Nov 12, 07:30:00 PM EST
      The Palestinians that make the reduced "claim" to the pre-1967 green lines are the lackeys of the Israeli .

      Please, you are starting like an old time communist...

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    3. I just get a whiff of Jooery in whatever context and get nauseous.

      "Set in my ways."

      Don't get me stared with the Blacks.

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  29. Characters Changing Over Time

    Anyone who has been reading Diana Gabaldon's books for long will surely notice that the major characters (and many of the minor ones) change over time.

    Diana made a comment about this on Compuserve back in 2007 (here), and it's stuck with me:

    Anyway, part of the challenge of doing what I do is the problem of reimagining Jamie and Claire with each new book--because while certainly the core of their characters remains the same, they do change, both within themselves and in their relationships--not only with each other, but with other people. But that's what makes it fun.

    For me personally, seeing how the characters change over time, grow older, learn from their mistakes, etc., is one of the most interesting aspects of Improvisational blogging.
    But I'd like to hear what the rest of you think. So here are a few questions, just to get the discussion going:

    Which character do you think has changed the most during the course of the last eight years? The least?
    Are there any characters whose changes have surprised you, or caused you to change your opinion of the character (whether positive or negative)?
    Can you think of any exceptions to this general concept of characters changing over time?

    http://outlandishobservations.blogspot.com/2011/09/characters-changing-over-time.html

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  30. If during the reading of this you become aroused, call 911 immediately and wipe your hard drive.

    A literary giant, he was feted by the rich and powerful. But did Gore Vidal hide a monstrous secret?

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2501890/But-did-literary-giant-Gore-Vidal-hide-monstrous-secret.html?ico=home^editors_choice

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  31. The word is "sadomasochism". Windows 8 and I do not always play well together.

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