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Monday, November 18, 2013

Israel and Saudi Arabia colluding to Attack Iran and throw the World into an economic catastrophe

Israel working with Saudi Arabia on Iran’s nuclear contingency plan - report
Published time: November 17, 2013 04:23 
Edited time: November 17, 2013 11:13

Israel’s Mossad, along with Saudi officials, is working on contingency plans that could include an attack on Iran if its nuclear program is not curbed enough during the negotiations in Geneva this week, a new report has revealed.
Both powers have expressed concern that restrictions on Iran’s nuclear program will not be enough. According to The Sunday Times newspaper, Saudi Arabia already gave Israel the green light to use its airspace in the case of an attack on Iran.
It was also revealed that the Saudis were willing to assist an Israeli attack by cooperating with the use of drones, rescue helicopters, and tanker planes. “Once the Geneva agreement is signed, the military option will be back on the table. The Saudis are furious and are willing to give Israel all the help it needs,” an unnamed diplomatic source told the paper.
Tehran has been negotiating sanction relief in Geneva with the P5+1 countries - consisting of the US, Britain, France, Germany, Russia, and China - in exchange for assurances that it will not develop a nuclear weapon. Exact terms on offer from both sides have not been made public, but no agreement was made last weekend. The sides will sit down for a new round of talks on November 20.
Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has warned that lifting sanctions on Iran without demanding sufficient concessions in return will only encourage Tehran on its path to nuclear armament and lead to future conflict.
Israel has been lobbying hard against appeasement, with Netanyahu himself claiming that Iran is about to clinch “the deal of the century.”
On Saturday, Netanyahu spoke to French daily Le Figaro about the situation, stating that Israel and the “leading states in the Arab world” agree when it comes to Tehran and its nuclear capabilities.
“We all think that Iran should not be allowed to have the capacities to make nuclear weapons,” he said. “We all think that a tougher stance should be taken by the international community. We all believe that if Iran were to have nuclear weapons, this could lead to a nuclear arms race in the Middle East, making the Middle East a nuclear tinderbox.”
The prime minister’s comments were made just before French President Francois Hollande was scheduled to arrive in Israel for talks on Iran on Sunday. French objections reportedly caused an obstacle in the Iran talks last weekend. 
An attack would be an ‘economic catastrophe’
Iranian political analyst Seyed Mohammad Marandi told RT that an imminent joint attack on Iran was unlikely given the serious ramifications it could provoke for the region.
“It is highly unlikely that the Saudis and Israelis would want to attack Iran because at the end of the day both countries would be losers, they would be seen as aggressors and obviously the Iranians would retaliate,” Marandi told RT.
Although he consented that the Saudis and Israelis have been moving closer together lately, neither of them stood to gain from attacking Iran.

“It would create an economic catastrophe for the world and only the Saudis and the Israelis would be to blame,” said Marandi.

220 comments:

  1. The Saudis will gouge us with oil price increases and the Israelis will be roaming the halls of Congress on a dollar shakedown.

    The US working and middle class will face financial ruin and every Islamic nutjob will be out in force for revenge.

    Americans will be killed and maimed.

    Terrorism will be increased,

    Personal freedoms in the US further diminished.

    The TSA, NSA and Pentagon will be on a feeding frenzy and Israeli defense contractors will be lined up at the trough.

    Israel and Saudi Arabia, indispensable allies.


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    1. Iran, on a reckless plan to get a nuclear bomb, threaten nations with genocide, will be who will be at fault it they cause the very nations they threaten to defang them BEFORE Iran can genocide them.

      It's reality simple. Iran, has not stopped, in 50 years, from trying to destroy several nations.

      Those nations, including Israel, will not sit by idly while Iran arms it's self with nuclear weapons and will stop it.

      It's a shame that the cowards of the world will not see that the BULLY, Iran, is the reason for the season.

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    2. But notice the libelous charge that the "Israelis will be roaming the halls of Congress on a dollar shakedown" & " Israeli defense contractors will be lined up at the trough"

      Pure anti-semetic bullshit...

      Deuce your hatred of Jews is showing...

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    3. Ashkenazi are Europeans - Ashkenazi are not Semites - End the Lies - End the Newspeak

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    4. Americans are Europeans.

      Get out of the USA.

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    5. And the four riders of the Apocalypse will ride out of heaven. I'll be safe under my blankee. Good Grief!

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    6. WiO,
      At least he didn't say hooked nosed Israeli defense contractors. That always gets my goat! :-)

      By the way, according to the Supreme Court of Israel there are no Israelis, just Jews.

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  2. On Saturday, Netanyahu spoke to French daily Le Figaro about the situation, stating that Israel and the “leading states in the Arab world” agree when it comes to Tehran and its nuclear capabilities.

    “We all think that Iran should not be allowed to have the capacities to make nuclear weapons,” he said. “We all think that a tougher stance should be taken by the international community. We all believe that if Iran were to have nuclear weapons, this could lead to a nuclear arms race in the Middle East, making the Middle East a nuclear tinderbox.”

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  3. “We all think”...

    Think about this:

    Who the fuck is we ?

    Clue: It ain’t us.

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    1. Deuce, you don't LIVE there, who the fuck are you to tell the people what are directly threatened by Iran what to do?

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    2. End the Lies - End Israeli Newspeak!

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    3. Here is a lie. There is no such thing as a palestinian. It's an invented name for an invented national movement.

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    4. Re: "We"

      I think he was nicely making the point that certain Westerners could take a hike and leave matters to the folks in the neighborhood. And who can blame "them": the US has been "fighting" a war with illiterate savages for 12 years and cannot buy a win.

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  4. All options still on the table :

    Israeli objections to Iran nuclear deal paying off

    Amid PM’s warnings that Israel won’t be bound by a bad agreement with Iran, former national security adviser Yaakov Amidror tells Financial Times that Israel could halt Iran’s nuclear capability “for a very long time.”

    JPOST

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    1. Wow, So Obama's "peace in our time" by throwing the Jews under the bus aint working?

      Tuff nuggies...

      As I told you before, the Jews will not commit suicide for you..

      sorry charlie..

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  5. Can’t we just tell Yaakov to Fuckov?

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    1. He's heard that a million times. How about Jaakoff?

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  6. Maj.-Gen. (res.) Yaakov Amidror is Vice President of the Lander Academic Institute in Jerusalem. He is also the former head of the IDF Intelligence Research and Assessment Division, with special responsibility for preparing the National Intelligence Assessment. In addition, he served as military secretary to the Minister of Defense. Amidror was asked by the Israel Defense Forces to analyze the intelligence leading up to and during the 2006 Second Lebanon War. He is the author of Thoughts about Security and Military Affairs (Israel National Security College, 2002); and Intelligence: Theory and Practice (Ministry of Defense Publishing House, 2006).

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  7. From Haaretz:

    The planned construction of an ultra-Orthodox education complex authorized by the Jerusalem city council last week is sparking concerns of an increasingly tight Haredi hold on two of the city's northern neighborhoods.

    Secular residents of northern Jerusalem have expressed concern that the three Haredi schools and about 10 preschools due to be built in Ramat Eshkol will further entrench the extensive ultra-Orthodox character of the neighborhood. They also said the schools could draw more Haredim to nearby French Hill.

    "The establishment of a Haredi education complex will effectively clinch an ultra-Orthodox takeover in northern Jerusalem," Yossi Havilio, an attorney representing Jerusalem residents campaigning against the construction, wrote to Mayor Nir Barkat. "It will bring about a situation in which the Hebrew University of Jerusalem on Mount Scopus will be the only secular institution in the region."

    Municipal officials said the schools, which were approved at a tempestuous city council meeting Thursday, are necessary because of a dire shortage of suitable classrooms for ultra-Orthodox children, who typically attend separate Haredi schools.

    Barkat's office said Ramat Eshkol will also be the site of a new branch of a college expected to attract thousands of students to its dormitories, thereby serving as a counterweight to the Haredi schools. The Ramat Eshkol campus of the Lander Institute-Jerusalem Academic Center will be built before the Haredi school complex, and the Lander campus will be four times the size, municipal officials said.

    "Some 4,000 students who come to the neighborhood to attend the Lander Institute will constitute a pluralistic anchor that attracts many young people and strengthens the neighborhood," the municipality said in a statement. "Establishing a Zionist anchor in Ramat Eshkol is part of a series of efforts undertaken by the municipality to strengthen the Zionist population in the city's northern areas."

    The Lander Institute currently operates a branch in Jerusalem that attracts many Haredim, but it has said its Ramat Eshkol campus will be pluralistic.

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    1. Re: Secular residents of northern Jerusalem have expressed concern that the three Haredi schools and about 10 preschools due to be built in Ramat Eshkol

      This is not a long term problem; in a show of trust remove a section of the wall for the sake of pluralism. Within 60 days the schools will be reduced to rubble. If the human bombs get really lucky, they may take out a bunch of "European" Ashkenazi. With enough death and destruction, with deep regret the wall will be replaced.

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  8. The Israeli religious nutjobs are threatening normal Israelis.

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    1. wow one school is the issue?????

      get a grip

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    2. End the OccupationMon Nov 18, 08:48:00 AM EST

      Home Demolitions: By the Numbers

      Since 1967, Israel has destroyed approximately 27,000 Palestinian structures in the occupied territories (the West Bank, East Jerusalem, and Gaza Strip), including more than 24,000 homes, according to ICAHD.
      Since the renewal of negotiations in August 2013, Israel has destroyed approximately 25 Palestinian homes, in addition to dozens of other structures, leaving approximately 200 people homeless.

      According to the UN, between January and September 2013, 862 Palestinians were displaced by Israeli demolitions, compared to 886 (including 468 children) in all of 2012.

      In 2012, a total of 600 Palestinian structures were demolished by Israel in the occupied territories, including at least 189 homes, according to ICAHD. This figure doesn’t include “self-demolitions” whereby Palestinians destroy their own homes rather than have Israel do it and charge them an additional fine.


      One Bedouin village, Al-Araqib, in the Negev desert in the south of Israel, has been destroyed more than 50 times by Israel since July 2010.

      Between 2005 and 2012, Israel demolished approximately 1500 Palestinian homes due to owners lacking hard-to-obtain construction permits.

      Between 1993 and 2000, when the Oslo Accords were being negotiated between Israel and the Palestine Liberation Organization, Israel destroyed almost 1700 Palestinian homes in the occupied territories.

      Immediately following Israel’s occupation of the West Bank, East Jerusalem, and Gaza in 1967, approximately 6000 Palestinian homes were demolished, including four entire villages in the Latrun area, along with dozens of homes in the Mughrabi Quarter of Jerusalem’s Old City, which were destroyed to make way for a plaza for the Western Wall. In 1971, between 2000 and 6000 Palestinian homes were destroyed in Gaza in an effort to pacify the newly occupied territory.

      During Israel’s creation (1948-49), Zionist and then Israeli forces expelled approximately 750,000 Palestinian Arabs from their ancestral lands in order to create a Jewish majority state of Israel. In the process, more than 400 Palestinian population centers were systematically destroyed, including thousands of homes, businesses, and houses of worship.

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    3. End the OccupationMon Nov 18, 08:49:00 AM EST

      No, one school is not the issue.
      It is part of a pattern.

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    4. yep, the pattern? Murder the Jews, 899/900th of the middle east is Jew free.

      6,000,000 jews murdered in Europe.

      Jewish homes, businesses and holding stolen.

      Yep the pattern continues...

      Now in Israel. 1/900th of the middle east the nation of Israel IS 20% arab.

      In fact in Israel today? MORE ARAB LIVE IN ISRAEL THAN LIVED IN THE ENTIRE REGION Just 70 years ago!!

      Arab home building in Israel skyrockets!!!

      Arab home building in Gaza and the West bank under Israeli "occupation"? Up by over 300,000 units....

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    5. Under Israeli occupation arabs enjoyed more roads, schools and hospitals being built than any other people on the planet, per captia.

      The palestinains? owe a giant thank you to the Israelis...

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    6. The state of Israel murdered 20,000 Jews in 2012, has murdered a similar number of Jew in every year of the 21st century.

      No other sovereign state has as high a 21st century body count of dead Jews on its doorstep, as does the state of Israel

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    7. I see the church lady is back to abortion. Dear Lady, make up a sign and protest in your own country. No matter how Jews feel about abortion, it is none of your business.

      Re: "threatening normal Israelis"
      In all my years of reading this blog, I do not recall a single instance of reading about "normal Israelis". Surprise! Surprise! Surprise!

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    8. The Synagogue LadyMon Nov 18, 01:16:00 PM EST

      It is an affront to Judaism that the State of Israel is killing Jewish babies, in Israel

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  9. Religion is going to be the death of us all.

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    1. Only the Iranians consider the conflict a religious one. You have never heard a Jewish member of the government threaten Iran on religious grounds. It is true that the goofiness of Jewish fanatics makes the news, but the vast majority of Jews are secular and do not want a war with anyone.They do want Hamas and Fatah to agree to Israel's perpetual right of existence. With that assurance and the satisfaction of several reasonable security concerns, the PA can get on with its business, whatever that may be besides extortion.

      Over the years, Israel, the US, China, Russia, and the French have offered gratis nuclear power plants for the generation of electricity. The Iranians have refused; they will have nothing short of weapons grade material. While there country is impoverished, Iranian governments have spent about $167 Billion to realize their dream: the destruction of the Jewish homeland.

      So, if religion has any role to play, it is the same rotten one that is causing misery to innocent people across the globe. Why, even the Chinese were hit hard yesterday.

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    2. If the vast majority of Jews are secular, and over 85% of Jews are Ashkenazi Europeans ...
      What claim do these secularist Europeans have to the lands of Eretz Israel?

      If they have no claim of blood ancestry and none by religious conviction?

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  10. Iran is a country of 77 Million (Six Times the population of Pennsylvania) covering 636,000 Sq. Miles (15 Times the Land Area of Pennsylvania.

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  11. Where's Doug when we need him?

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    1. Fudd Hunters InternationalMon Nov 18, 08:15:00 AM EST

      Hunting Fascist Fudds

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  12. Anonymous - Message to the American People

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HrXyLrTRXso

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  13. 10 Things You Want to Know About 'Anonymous'

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Il5YgeHdHxw

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  14. Anonymous - We are Legion - We do not forget - We do not forgive - Expect Us - We are the Collective

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    1. He demanded that this story mention he outgrew his Ayn Rand phase when he was 17. He said, “If you don’t put that in there, I will personally DDoS the f--- out of you.”

      http://www.dmagazine.com/Home/D_Magazine/2011/April/How_Barrett_Brown_Helped_Overthrow_the_Government_of_Tunisia.aspx

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    2. Re: We are the Collective

      What? Are you ants?

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  15. Iran is producing about 3,200,000 bbls of oil, daily (probably constrained, somewhat, by sanctions.)

    They consume approx. 2,000,000 bbls of oil/day.

    Their fields are old, and production is falling by about 300,000 bbl/day, every year.

    They could be, for all practical matters, out of the "oil-exporting business" within 5 years. They are serious about wanting (needing) nuclear energy.

    EIA Data

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    1. You are absolutely correct, Rufus, the need electricity. And they could have had that years ago if they would have given up on this obsession with weapons grade material. When a country is offered power plants for free by major nuclear power producers, what is the agenda?

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  16. Just what's not needed here - another stupid propaganda piece.

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    1. Go find some Facts, and present Them.

      Why don't you start with "the last time the Iranian people invaded a foreign country?

      Hint: you might start with dates ending in B.C.

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    2. Anonymous Is A Lie

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    3. Anonymous Is Deceit

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    4. Anonymous Is Anarchy

      Anonymous CAN be Banned

      Anonymous Should be Banned

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    5. Ban Anonymous NOW!

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  17. .

    But notice the libelous charge that the "Israelis will be roaming the halls of Congress on a dollar shakedown" & " Israeli defense contractors will be lined up at the trough"

    If you really believe this you are a fool, WiO.

    .

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    1. Do you believe what deuce wrote?

      Then maybe you are the fool.

      Deuces pattern of anti-Semitic libelous statement is long and horrible. This latest statement? disgusting.

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    2. The Ashkenazi are not a Semitic people, they are Europeans.

      End the Lies!

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    3. "anti-semitic" is Orwellain - Newspeak is alive and well, living in Israel

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    4. The US House of Representatives Armed Services Committee approved $488 million last week to fund Israel’s development of two missile systems and to finance the purchase of extra batteries for 2014.

      The proposal must now be approved by the House Appropriations Committee and then submitted to the Senate.

      The proposed aid is in addition to the annual $3.1 billion shakedown.
      US SOD Chuck Hagel promised that the current aid would not be reduced even while crying that he is working with cuts to military spending due to the sequester.

      The US government has recently cut $5 billion dollars from the food assistance program.

      AIPAC gleefully reports their “influence” throughout the US government.

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    5. Take the ten worst American cities, split the tribute in ten equal piles and each city would get an annual boost to their economy of $360 million.

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    6. (Reuters) - A new school year begins on Monday for about 134,000 Philadelphia students even though the school district - one of the largest in the United States - has no guarantees on how the city and state will deliver nearly $100 million it needs to keep operating.

      Mayor Michael Nutter and the city council remain at odds over his proposal for the city to borrow $50 million from capital markets and loan the proceeds to the district.

      Based on the promise of that cash influx, the embattled district rehired about 1,000 teachers and staffers laid off at the end of the last school term.

      The city council meets on Thursday to take up the issue, with both sides vowing to bridge their differences.

      The school district is also counting on a $45 million state grant that Governor Tom Corbett's administration won't release unless unionized teachers make concessions in a new labor pact. Their old contract expired on August 31, and talks are under way.

      Even if both pieces of financial help arrive soon, they would only put a bandage on a long-festering budget shortfall for the district that serves the fifth-largest city in the United States.

      The city of 1.5 million residents faces its own looming crisis in funding pensions for police, firefighters and municipal workers, a situation that could limit options for putting the school district on firmer footing.

      "What's happening in Philadelphia is the worst example of what's taking place in districts across the state," said Sharon Ward, executive director of the left-leaning Pennsylvania Budget and Policy Center (PBPC).

      Across Pennsylvania and the nation, public schools in many big cities have long been in decline as more affluent residents send their children to private schools or move to suburban school districts.

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    7. Why should the taxpayers of Philadelphia and Pennsylvania be taxed by the federal government to send money to Israel?

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    8. Why should the taxpayers of Philadelphia and Pennsylvania be taxed by the federal government to send money to Israel?

      The same reason the taxpayers of all 50 states are taxes and monies spent in over 110 nations across the globe.


      IF you asked the question on a daily basis about the other 109 nations, with equal vigor? there would be no issue.

      But your laser focus on what is given, lent or spent on Israel is disproportionate to the aid given.

      Thus one can only conclude that you hate the Jews and Israel.

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    9. "The proposed aid is in addition to the annual $3.1 billion shakedown. "

      yawn, you are so trapped by your hatred you can't even see how much bigot you have become.

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    10. .

      Your fucking hysterical, 'everyone here is an anti-Semite' screeds are getting old.

      We sit here daily denouncing our own government for various policies, foreign and domestic and you join right in. Yet, when anyone has anything negative to say about the policies of some fucking country in the ME whose actions ultimately affect the US you and your faux farmer buddy go on your irrational 'anti-Semitic' hissy fits, calling the country and the people on this blog cowards or worse.

      You are a member of AIPAC. If you don't know what they stand for, what influence they have on US policy, you are a self-deluded moron.

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    11. thanks quirk for telling me how I should feel, without you I would be lost.

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    12. By the quirk, your assertion that aipac stands for "shaking down the US government for cash" is ignorant. But I have noticed one of your character flaws if your pride and hubris. I don't expect any different on this topic either.

      My only wish? You pull your intelligent head out of your ass long enough to recognize shit when you see it...

      have a nice day

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    13. What is "Occupation"Mon Nov 18, 09:38:00 AM EST
      "The proposed aid is in addition to the annual $3.1 billion shakedown. "

      yawn, you are so trapped by your hatred you can't even see how much bigot you have become.

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      QuirkMon Nov 18, 09:40:00 AM EST
      .

      Your fucking hysterical, 'everyone here is an anti-Semite' screeds are getting old.



      I am "hysterical"?

      hys·ter·i·cal [hi-ster-i-kuhl] Show IPA
      adjective
      1.
      of, pertaining to, or characterized by hysteria.
      2.
      uncontrollably emotional.
      3.
      irrational from fear, emotion, or an emotional shock.
      4.
      causing hysteria.
      5.
      suffering from or subject to hysteria.


      Surely you can use a thesaurus and come up with a better word.

      Maybe "overly sensitive"?

      But truthfully, after hundreds and hundreds of anti-Israel threads, jabs at Jews, Judaism and Zionism one can only wonder what motivates Deuce, Rufus and Rat if NOT hatred of same.

      To IGNORE it?

      reminds me that folks like you are Sergeant Schultz of Hogans Heroes... "i See NOTHING, I HEAR Nothing"

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    14. hey quirk?

      any opinion on this?

      AnonymousMon Nov 18, 09:11:00 AM EST
      The Ashkenazi are not a Semitic people, they are Europeans.
      End the Lies!


      Or am i just "hysterical"?

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    15. euceMon Nov 18, 09:32:00 AM EST
      Why should the taxpayers of Philadelphia and Pennsylvania be taxed by the federal government to send money to Israel?


      Is this a fair and balanced question?

      or am I just hysterical?

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    16. AnonymousMon Nov 18, 09:09:00 AM EST
      The state of Israel murdered 20,000 Jews in 2012, has murdered a similar number of Jew in every year of the 21st century.
      No other sovereign state has as high a 21st century body count of dead Jews on its doorstep, as does the state of Israel



      Is this fair and balanced? Have you addressed this?

      Am I hysterical?

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    17. “An old dream with a shiny new veneer.
      It's fascinating, you know, how an obsolete madness is sometimes adopted and stylized in an attempt to ghoulishly preserve it.

      These are the days of second-hand fantasies and antiquated hysteria.

      ("The Chymist")”

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    18. End the OccupationMon Nov 18, 10:04:00 AM EST

      In a letter to a group that helps women carry their babies to term, the rabbis cite ‘the extreme seriousness involved in killing fetuses, which is like actual murder.’


      The honor came on the heels of the release of a letter by Israel’s two chief rabbis, who credited Efrat for saving the lives of more than 54,000 unborn children.

      An estimated 20,000 pregnancies are aborted legally every year in Israel, according to Efrat.

      In their letter, the chief rabbis said they found “great importance” in Efrat’s work “in saving the lives of Jewish children.”


      During the 35 years it has been operating, they said, “tens of thousands of fetuses were saved.”

      In the past year alone, the rabbis wrote, Efrat saved 4,000 lives.

      The organization was founded by a Holocaust survivor whose mission was to rebuild the Jewish population after 6 million Jews were murdered in the Holocaust.


      Read more: http://www.ncregister.com/daily-news/chief-rabbis-of-israel-praise-efforts-to-reduce-abortions#ixzz2l0ejNvxe


      The TRUTH pains a propagandist.

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    19. End the OccupationMon Nov 18, 10:06:00 AM EST

      The tone of the chief rabbis’ letter was much more hard-hitting this year than last, when they praised the organization for trying to “encourage births” and “prevent unnecessary abortion.”

      This year, the rabbis cited “the extreme seriousness involved in killing fetuses, which is like actual murder.”

      This is the third straight year the Office of the Chief Rabbinate — which has sole authority over matters related to Jewish law and practice in Israel — has praised Efrat during the week Jews around the world recite the “Exodus” portion of the Old Testament in synagogues.


      Read more: http://www.ncregister.com/daily-news/chief-rabbis-of-israel-praise-efforts-to-reduce-abortions#ixzz2l0g8NiJB

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    20. End the OccupationMon Nov 18, 10:08:00 AM EST


      This year, the rabbis cited “the extreme seriousness involved in killing fetuses, which is like actual murder.”

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    21. End the OccupationMon Nov 18, 10:12:00 AM EST

      Abortions in Israel are ANTI-SEMITIC!

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    22. .

      Surely you can use a thesaurus and come up with a better word.

      Perhaps. Better is a relative term.

      More appropriate though? I don't think so.

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    23. What could be more antisemitic than killing a defenseless Jew?

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    24. Around 20,000 women apply for state-funded abortions and in 98 per cent of cases receive the necessary green light from a panel of doctors and social workers who consider their request. Common reasons given by the women include that they are unmarried, deem themselves too young or old to have a baby, or have evidence that their baby will have a physical or mental defect.

      The Chief Rabbis and their sympathisers claim that the most common reason is actually economic and women just tell panels what they want to hear.

      In addition to the legal abortions, both sides of the debate estimate that 30,000 women a year circumvent the panel and pay a doctor privately to terminate their pregnancy.



      The Chief Rabbis and their sympathisers claim that the most common reason is actually economic and women just tell panels what they want to hear. - Bunch of self serving jewish bitches, that's what they are!

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      As for the rat,

      He merely wastes the blogs time with his repetitive references to Ashkenazis, secular Jews, and abortions in Israel. Merely pissing into the wind. But that's how he rolls.

      I don't even think he is anti-Semitic but rather merely and asshole who has a couple guys here he can crank up and use as cat's paws.

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    26. Cat's paws - Kind of like a "Wind Riffle"
      That is just so .... chill.

      cat's-paws also cats·paws
      1. A person used by another as a dupe or tool.
      2. A light breeze that ruffles small areas of a water surface.
      3. Nautical A knot made by twisting a section of rope to form two adjacent eyes through which a hook is passed, used in hoisting.

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    27. “A wise man gets more use from his enemies than a fool from his friends.”

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    28. .

      Why should the taxpayers of Philadelphia and Pennsylvania be taxed by the federal government to send money to Israel?

      Any allocation of scarce resources becomes a political question and thus a legitimate one for discussion.

      You say to ask the question is anti-Semitic. I say bullshit. Many of the arguments against it have been stated before.

      - As with all foreign aid, why should we be sending money to foreign countries when we have so many problems requiring funds right here?

      - Why should any aid we send be military aid rather than aid for productive uses?

      - With the sequestration, why should Israel be the 'only country including the US not affected?

      - You call Iran a bully, yet Israel spends 50% more on the military annually than Iran.

      These are all legitimate questions. That you consider them out of bounds?

      Well, no sense belaboring the point.

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    29. “A freedom fighter learns the hard way that it is the oppressor who defines the nature of the struggle,
      and the oppressed is often left no recourse but to use methods that mirror those of the oppressor.

      At a point, one can only fight fire with fire”

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    30. QuirkMon Nov 18, 10:41:00 AM EST
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      Why should the taxpayers of Philadelphia and Pennsylvania be taxed by the federal government to send money to Israel?

      Any allocation of scarce resources becomes a political question and thus a legitimate one for discussion.

      You say to ask the question is anti-Semitic. I say bullshit. Many of the arguments against it have been stated before.

      - As with all foreign aid, why should we be sending money to foreign countries when we have so many problems requiring funds right here?

      - Why should any aid we send be military aid rather than aid for productive uses?

      - With the sequestration, why should Israel be the 'only country including the US not affected?

      - You call Iran a bully, yet Israel spends 50% more on the military annually than Iran.

      These are all legitimate questions. That you consider them out of bounds?

      Well, no sense belaboring the point.




      You really don't want an answer do you?

      You just like to stand on your box and blow smoke...

      Congrats.

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    31. QuirkMon Nov 18, 10:41:00 AM EST
      Why should the taxpayers of Philadelphia and Pennsylvania be taxed by the federal government to send money to Israel?
      Any allocation of scarce resources becomes a political question and thus a legitimate one for discussion.


      One Standard for the Jewish state, no standards, no discussions of the other HUNDRED plus nations that get aid.

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    32. .

      You really don't want an answer do you?

      I was merely offering you a way to avoid making a fool of yourself.

      If you want to answer, please do so.

      .

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    33. You call Iran a bully, yet Israel spends 50% more on the military annually than Iran.

      Interesting point.

      So SPENDING on self defense is now considered being a bully.

      So sorry Quirk that Israel doesn't wish to see it's kids blown apart.

      I am sure you'd be happy if Israel just laid down and died?

      Would that satisfy you?

      Just commit suicide?

      Then there would be no more "anti-semitism" cause the jews would be DEAD and you'd be happy...

      SO sorry Mr Quirk, The Jews will not commit suicide to make you happy..

      Maybe you are not an anti-semite, maybe you are just a prick.

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    34. .
      .

      Quirk:

      Any allocation of scarce resources becomes a political question and thus a legitimate one for discussion.

      WiO

      One Standard for the Jewish state, no standards, no discussions of the other HUNDRED plus nations that get aid.

      Once again you show your paranoia.

      The word 'any' is inclusive yet you take it to refer strictly to the Jewish state. Your 'sensitivity' is showing.

      .



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    35. .

      So SPENDING on self defense is now considered being a bully.

      Yet, you deny the Iranians the right to do the same thing.

      Half the states in the ME are seeking to become the hegemon in the region, Iran, Turkey, Saudia Arabia, Qatar, Israel. By the way SA, Israel's new best buddy, is spending 3 times what Israel does on defense on 5 times what Iran spends on defense.

      If we can go by the story the faux farmer linked to, Golda Meier got weapons from Nixon by threatening to go nuclear on the ME. She did so because Israel was surrounded by enemies and felt isolated.

      Of the Muslims, 90% are Sunni and 10% are Shia. Iran is a Shia country surrounded by Sunnis. Saudi Arabia is a bigger enemy to Iran than Israel. Iran is currently struggling under the sanctions. I suspect Iran might feel surrounded by enemies and isolated as much as Israel does.

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    36. .

      By the quirk, your assertion that aipac stands for "shaking down the US government for cash" is ignorant.

      Actually, I never said that. What I have said about AIPAC is that it should register as the agent of a foreign government. The reasons are simple.

      - I have visited the AIPAC website on a number of occasions. The first thing that hits you is a banner showing the US flag buried between and below two more prominent Israeli flags.

      - We see the articles that come out on a regular basis showing AIPAC pushing the current Israeli government's agenda with Congress whether it is pushing for funds or for war.

      - There are no articles at the site about Jewish issues in Israel or Jewish issues in America. It's all about pushing the foreign policy agenda of the current right-wing government in Israel.

      - There is also the aim of AIPAC there stated as encouraging Americans to 'engage and build relationships' with their representatives in Congress to promote the 'Israel-American relationship' which judging from the articles posted there amount to nothing more than pushing the Israeli agenda. Even Bibi recognizes AIPAC's influence on US policy and given the American public's general affinity for Israel cynically contends he has us in his pocket.

      - As for the money aspect, the MSM is filled with stories of the money being siphoned off to Israel.

      Ignorant?

      You belong to AIPAC. Try reading their website sometime.

      .

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    37. The nations that lead the list ...
      Israel, Iraq, Jordon, Egypt all are there because of their Israeli connection.

      Kenya, high on the list of US aid, has Israeli investments in shopping malls and such.
      Evidenced by the shopping mall selection as a 'soft target' by the foreign attackers.

      The more investigating that is done, the more sympathetically pathetic the plight of the indigenous people clearly becomes.

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    38. Pakistan and Afghanistan, both high on the US aid list.

      In Pakistan ...

      Pakistan Plans To Try Ex-President Musharraf For Treason

      http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2013/11/17/245823963/pakistan-plans-to-try-ex-president-musharraf-for-treason

      Afhanistan

      America’s Longest War…Likely to Get Longer

      U.S. and Afghanistan agree on draft pact allowing U.S. troops to remain


      hat means the U.S. war in Afghanistan will probably slip beyond the 4,834 days (13 years, 2 months, 25 days) between Oct. 7, 2001, when the U.S. invaded, and Dec. 31, 2014, when all U.S. combat troops are due to leave. Those likely to be left behind will be there largely to train Afghan troops, hunt down and kill terrorists, and be targets for those same terrorists. That makes the U.S. war in Afghanistan more than three times the duration of its 1,346-day (3 years, 8 months, 7 days) participation in World War II.

      But Iraq, increasingly slipping toward civil war, should offer Americans a cautionary tale about U.S. troops rushing for the exits from a war-torn country they created.

      It’s tough for a war-weary American public to concede, but the costs paid in American blood (2,193 killed) and treasure ($700 billion) could well be spilled in vain if there isn’t some continuing U.S. presence in Afghanistan to keep al Qaeda and the Taliban in check. It also could give a shaky and corrupt Afghan central government, under a new president (Karzai is barred from seeking a third term), enough time to mature and send extremists packing.

      The Afghan security force is nearing its goal of 352,000 troops and police, and has acquitted itself well during this year’s fighting season.


      Read more: War in Afghanistan likely to get longer for U.S. troops | TIME.com http://swampland.time.com/2013/11/18/americas-longest-war-likely-to-get-longer/#ixzz2l1NiLSxa

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    39. Afghan security force of 352,000 troops and police 'cannot' secure Afghanistan?

      But by garrisoning 5,000 to 10,000 US /NATO troops there, the scales will tip towards security and tranquility...
      Not likely.

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  18. How Anonymous Picks Targets, Launches Attacks, and Takes Powerful Organizations Down
    By Quinn Norton

    No one but Hector Xavier Monsegur can know why or when he became Sabu, joining the strange and chaotic Internet collective known as Anonymous. But we know the moment he gave Sabu up. On June 7, 2011, federal agents came to his apartment on New York’s Lower East Side and threatened the 28-year-old with an array of charges that could add up to 124 years in prison. So Hector Monsegur, who as Sabu had become a mentor and icon to fellow members of Anonymous, surrendered his online identity to a new, equally faceless and secretive master: the FBI.

    For the next eight months, Sabu continued to rage across the Internet as a core member of AntiSec, a blackhat hacking group within Anonymous.

    He helped to deface government and corporate websites and even helped bring down the private intelligence firm Stratfor—all, apparently, with the FBI’s blessing as it quietly gathered logs on Monsegur’s fellow “anons.”


    Law enforcement officials later told Fox News that Monsegur was working out of the FBI offices “almost daily” in the weeks after he pleaded guilty in August and then from his own home thereafter, with an agent watching his activity 24 hours a day.

    Sometimes agents were even posing as Sabu directly.


    On Christmas, just after the Stratfor hack, Sabu and I happened to be logged into the same channel on IRC,
    the chatting protocol that serves as the medium through which most Anonymous members planned large-scale operations.
    I asked the AntiSec members if they were worried about a law enforcement response to Stratfor.

    Sabu shot back:

    we’re used to that heat

    we survived the first rounds of the raids


    He was referring to a series of arrests that past summer that had scooped up, worldwide, at least 80 alleged participants in the group.
    At the time, it was hard to fault his reasoning,
    since those arrests seemed to have done nothing to slow the group’s terrifying onslaught in 2011.

    It was a year in which Anonymous burst into the geopolitical consciousness of the world,
    assisting Arab Spring activists and attacking the security industry,
    bedeviling law enforcement and intelligence agencies, carrying out countless hacks against Sony and other large corporations.

    As protest movements spread to the West, Anonymous provided them with crucial logistics
    (not to mention a great deal of media attention),
    from the BART protests in San Francisco to the Occupy actions across the US and overseas.

    Anonymous had figured out how to infiltrate anything, how to mobilize not just machines but physical bodies, all around the globe.

    http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2012/07/ff_anonymous/

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  19. Deuces pattern of anti-Semitic libelous statement is long and horrible. This latest statement? disgusting.

    I offered an alternative, but the group didn't want me.

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    1. “Breath by breath, let go of fear, expectation, anger, regret, cravings, frustration, fatigue.
      Let go of the need for approval.
      Let go of old judgments and opinions.
      Die to all that, and fly free.
      Soar in the freedom of desirelessness.

      Let go. Let Be.

      See through everything and be free, complete, luminous, at home -- at ease.”

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    2. Your history aint much better toots...

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  20. While you should never cede the initiave, quot, there are oher points to consider, as well.

    Do not engage in a bttle where you are sure to lose. One wher the PREMIER authority on Judaism stands against your SECULAR ideology.

    As a propagandist for the secular regime in Eratz Israel, you should fade from the abortion issue.
    The anti-Semitic stance of the state of Israel on this issue is Legion.

    End the Newspeak - Abortion is Murder - in Israel it is anti-semitic!

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  21. What could be more antisemitic than killing a defenseless Jew?


    Killing 20,000 of them every year, in an industrialized, sanitized process.

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  22. Israel and Saudi Arabia colluding to Attack Iran and throw the World into an economic catastrophe

    But I am "hysterical"

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    1. Well, an attack upon Iran by the Saudi-Israeli Axis of Abraham would close the Straits of Hormuz, for an indeterminate amount of time.
      But close them to commercial shipping, it would.

      That would be the beginnings of a global economic catastrophe.
      There is no doubt of that.

      There is doubt that the Iranians are building a nuclear weapon
      Even as there is no doubt that they will develop the capacity to do so.
      Like Japan and South Korea. Even Brazil.

      Yes, you are hysterical, you have been for some time now.

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    2. Scared of the big bad Iranians are you?

      Coward.

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    3. Yep, you were all the rage screaming about the piles of American body bags coming out of Iraq too..

      100,000 of thousands were to have been killed...

      You were a coward then and a coward now.

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    4. If all the Iranians wanted was a nuclear weapon, they could have bough one, as the Soviet Empire imploded.

      Being the sly chess masters that our israeli contributor assures us they are, the cheapest, easiest road to a nuclear weapon went through the Ukraine.

      In all, considering tactical weapons, about 5,000 nuclear munitions were moved to Russia in almost 100 trains.

      In th notoriously corrupt culture of the Soviet occupied Eastern Europe, the Iranians could have bought a couple of warheads for much less than they have spent building nuclear reactors.


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    5. “First you say he is a murderer - an agent in league against you - then that he is demented and crazy...
      and now it is charges of cowardice that you bring!

      Pray make up your mind so I can scoff at you with precision!”

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  23. VOA

    WASHINGTON, D.C. — Talks between Iran and a group of six Western nations aimed at freezing Iran’s nuclear program are scheduled to resume on November 20th in Geneva. A first round of talks broke down after the so-called P5+1 and Iran failed to agree on a short-term deal that would have eased sanctions on Iran and allowed it to continue low-level enrichment. The US says any eventual deal struck with Iran will be "failsafe" and will guarantee that Iran has no nuclear weapons capability.

    Analysts say two issues scuttled the talks; Iran claims it has the right to enrich uranium and wants this acknowledged in writing, and France demands that Iran stop construction on a heavy water reactor at Arak. Meanwhile, observers say “frenemies” Israel and Saudi Arabia are campaigning behind the scenes to make sure Iran’s nuclear program never goes military.

    Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin has been vocal against what he calls "a very bad deal."

    “This is a country that is participating as we speak in the mass slaughter of men, women, children, tens of thousands of them in Syria,” he told America’s CBS News recently.

    Israeli television reported that a French lawmaker -- and good friend of Netanyahu -- phoned the French Foreign Minister during the Geneva talks, warning him that Netanyahu would attack Iran’s nuclear facilities if the P5+1 nations didn’t push tougher conditions on Iran.

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  24. Can an Israeli sneeze without it being someone's business. They seem damned if the do and damned if they don't. What is Iran going to do about it? kill some teenage demonstrators, hang a few little girls, castrate some "queers"?

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    1. No, an Israeli cannot blow their nose and it not be the business of the US.
      The Israeli have made THEIR business a US concern

      The comparisons to Iran, inappropriate.
      The Iranians do not sleep with US, they do not eat with US, they are not invited into the lobby's of the Congress.
      The Iranians have not received $110 Billion dollars from US.
      Sarah Palin does not fly an Iranian flag on her desk.

      The US is starving Iran of economic resources, even as we type.

      Iran is not comparable to Israel, as far as US interests or actions are concerned.

      Th US has bought Israel, it is a vassal state.
      The Israeli are a piece of tail, trying to wag the dog.

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    2. .

      Th US has bought Israel, it is a vassal state.
      The Israeli are a piece of tail, trying to wag the dog.


      I think you are wrong, rat, but then it's all a matter of perspective.

      When we were talking about the 'peace talks' between Israel and the PA, I posted a piece of a transcript of Netanyahu talking to a family in Israel. The segment I posted talked about how he had managed to scuttle the Oslo Accords. However, the video actually runs for over 10 minutes. The video is on YouTube.

      Here are Netanyahu's views on who is the dog and who is the tail.

      [Woman interrupts] But wait a minute, at that point the whole world will say “What are you occupiers”…

      [Natanyahu interrupts] The world will say nothing. The world will say that we are defending ourselves.

      I know what America is. America is a thing that can be easily moved, moved in the right direction… Let’s suppose that they [the Americans] will say something [i.e. to us Israelis] … so they say it… [i.e. so what?]

      [Woman] Aren’t you afraid of the world Bibi?

      [Natanyahu] No. Especially now, with America, I know what America is. America is a thing that can be easily moved, moved in the right direction. They [the Americans] will not bother us. Let’s suppose that they [the Americans] will say something [i.e. to us Israelis]… so they say it… [so what?] Eighty per cent of the Americans support us. It’s absurd! We have such [great] support there! And we say… what shall we do with this [support]?Look, the other administration [that of Bill Clinton] was pro-Palestinian in an extreme way. I was not afraid to manoeuvre there. I did not fear confrontation with Clinton. I was not afraid to clash with the UN. As it is, I am paying the price in the international arena… So I might as well receive something of equal value in exchange.


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  25. Minding their own business? You mean like Israel and her US lobbyists do? Like they did to try and get the US involved in Syria?

    IGOR BOBIC – SEPTEMBER 3, 2013, 5:06 PM EDT405
    AIPAC, an influential lobbying group that advocates pro-Israel policies in the United States, issued a statement Tuesday urging members of Congress to approve President Barack Obama's military strike on Syria.

    Full statement below:

    AIPAC urges Congress to grant the President the authority he has requested to protect America’s national security interests and dissuade the Syrian regime's further use of unconventional weapons. The civilized world cannot tolerate the use of these barbaric weapons, particularly against an innocent civilian population including hundreds of children. Simply put, barbarism on a mass scale must not be given a free pass. This is a critical moment when America must also send a forceful message of resolve to Iran and Hezbollah -- both of whom have provided direct and extensive military support to Assad. The Syrian regime and its Iranian ally have repeatedly demonstrated that they will not respect civilized norms. That is why America must act, and why we must prevent further proliferation of unconventional weapons in this region.

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  26. Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu praised French President Francois Hollande's “courageous stance” against Iran on Sunday, an indirect jab at President Obama's push for diplomatic talks.

    A ’true friend”

    Netanyahu called France a “true friend” of Israel as he greeted Hollande on his first official trip to the country. France demanded last week that a preliminary deal on Iran's nuclear program be toughened, causing it to be rejected by Iran.
    “Zionism was influenced by the values of the French Revolution," Netanyahu told Hollande, according to Haaretz. “Israel sees France as a true friend. France, like Israel, aspires for a stable Middle East that lives in peace and security.”

    He told members of his Cabinet that he hoped Hollande's visit could stiffen the resolve of other countries negotiating with Iran. Talks with Iran are being led by the permanent members of the Security Council – the U.S., France, Great Britain, China and Russia – plus Germany.

    “This visit is important ... in light of the talks that are being held in Geneva on the Iranian nuclear issue,” Netanyahu said, according to Haaretz. “I hope that we will succeed in convincing our friends this week, and the days after, to reach a much better deal.”

    Israel's warm embrace of the French leader contrasts sharply with Israel's intense lobbying on Capitol Hill to get the Senate to pass tough new sanctions on Iran's energy sector. The campaign has put Netanyahu squarely at odds with the White House, which wants to be able to loosen sanctions and has said that reinforcing them now could undercut diplomacy and lead to war.

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  27. ...”Israel’s intense lobbying on Capitol Hill "

    That is why it is our business. There is no other country on the entire planet that is so fixated with cajoling the US Conga Line. If they resist, they will be labeled “anti-semitic”.

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    1. Newspeak amongst us.

      You should all read that travel piece, in the NYTimes, about Burma.

      http://tmagazine.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/11/15/in-myanmar-retracing-george-orwells-steps/?hpw&rref=t-magazine&_r=1

      Combining the stories the colonial history of Burma, Rhodesia, South Africa, India/Pakistan and Israel ...
      The British, the realm of Mr Churchill, does not fare well.

      Little wonder the indigenous people are screwed, still today.
      Stranded as they are, in the ruins of Empire the Brits left in their wake.

      The British not alone in their debauchery abroad, the French fared no better, the Belgians far worse.

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    2. DeuceMon Nov 18, 12:00:00 PM EST
      ...”Israel’s intense lobbying on Capitol Hill "

      That is why it is our business. There is no other country on the entire planet that is so fixated with cajoling the US Conga Line. If they resist, they will be labeled “anti-semitic”.


      Nonsense, The arab lobby is far more powerful.

      Your so intent on proving how you are NOT an anti-semite that you lost sight of the fact that you are.

      Deuce you post thread after thread slamming Jews & Israel, you allow thousands of sick twisted posts and you complain when you get push back?

      Tuff shit.

      A rose is a rose by any other name is still a rose.

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  28. Notice, amigos, that when the Anglophiles speak of building an "English Speaking Alliance" ...

    They never mention South Africa, Zimbabwe, Kenya, Uganda ...
    Those English speaking countries are never on their list ...

    Pakistan is never mentioned, either.

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  29. For God's sake bring back Miss T or Doug.

    bob

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    1. Israel and Saudi Arabia colluding to Attack Iran and throw the World into an economic catastrophe

      should read

      Israel and Saudi Arabia Colluding to Attack Iran and Throw the World into an Economic Catastrophe

      Propaganda must be properly edited.

      Why would Saudi Arabia want to throw the world into economic catastrophe? The price of oil goes up but how are they going to sell any with the Straits closed?

      Since there are so many anons now, including Whacky's anons, I'll sign my name until some begins the imitating again.

      Whole thread is a big waste of time, again.

      Whacky must stay up all night thinking up all those names he is using.

      Writes them down on a note pad.

      Monomania.

      He needs help.

      bob

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    2. William ShakespeareMon Nov 18, 01:38:00 PM EST


      “You speak an infinite deal of nothing.”

      Delete
    3. Since the negotiations going on between the parties is known far and wide, it seems that "colluding" is a misnomer used to create a negative connotation.

      If Israel, the Saudis, et al decide to do the job, how far is the Won willing to go to stop them? Will he again lead from behind?.

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  30. Indeed, France is now trying to decide whether to join the Israeli-Saudi opposition to the Obama administration’s half-baked efforts at détente with Iran.

    French President Francois Hollande and Foreign Minister Laurent, who branded the deal originally offered to Iran a “sucker’s deal,” are in Israel this week to discuss possible alternative options in dealing with Iran. This follows a number of meetings between French and Saudi Arabian officials, including a visit by French Defense Minister Jean-Yves Le Drian to Saudi Arabia to discuss a new defense contract.



    Debkafile ran a headline on November 16th: “Hollande and Netanyahu to consider forming a joint French-Israeli-Arab front against Iran.” The article reported on the option being offered to France of “aligning with the Middle East powers – Israel, Saudi Arabia, the UAE and Egypt – which challenge President Barack Obama and Secretary of State John Kerry’s race for détente with Tehran.” If Hollande accepts the option, Debkafile explained, “the next decision facing President Hollande will be whether, how and when this grouping is willing to consider resorting to military action to preempt a nuclear-armed Iran.”

    So far, France still gives no indication that it will meekly follow the Obama administration’s lead, no matter what the terms of the deal. During a joint news conference with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, Hollande listed four demands which he said must be in place for any interim deal with Iran to work:

    “The first demand: put all the Iranian nuclear installations under international supervision, right now. Second point: suspend enrichment to 20 percent. Thirdly: to reduce the existing stock. And finally, to halt construction of the Arak (heavy water) plant. These are the points which for us are essential to guarantee any agreement.”

    http://frontpagemag.com/2013/joseph-klein/the-french-israeli-saudi-front-against-iran/

    bob

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    1. Factual fluidity won’t do him any favors

      There must be a special circle in hell reserved for rapists who later claim: She made it up.

      And then, beyond that circle, there must be a deeper one – deeper and more imaginatively punitive – for rapists and accused rapists and would-be rapists who, when their history is dredged up years later, drape themselves in a victim’s robes, whine about their oppression, and claim that everyone else is lying.

      http://www.spokesman.com/stories/2013/nov/16/shawn-vestal-idaho-rep-mark-pattersons-factual/

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    2. What does this have to do with Israel, Saudi Arabia, and France?

      Shawn is as crazy as rat.

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    3. O wait, Shawn IS rat.

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  31. If you all have complaints, take them up with Mr. Obama. When Israel and Saudi Arabia et al are working a plan to attack Iran, someone in the administration made one bad promise too many. Obama is not only distrusted, he is detested.

    I suppose Mr. Obama and bloggers here could be right: Iran is no big deal. It does seem odd, however, that with the exception of Syria, Iran's neighbors are not so sanguine.

    What will be the attitude here if Saudi Arabia and Israel succeed militarily? I am certain there will be some new high crime du jour. Of this I am certain, if they do take down Iran, all the old colonial baggage will disappear.

    For those interested in abortion, why not work your own backyard? As to judgment, there will be one for both homicide and hypocrisy.

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    1. The Synagogue LadyMon Nov 18, 01:59:00 PM EST

      The issue is not abortion, Mr allen.

      It is the state of Israel, killing, murdering Jews!

      The anti-Semitic behavior and actions of that secular government, they are just an abomination!

      The threat to greatest threat to Judaism, in Israel, emanates from the secularists in the Israeli government, not the sands of Iran.
      The Iranians have a large and vibrant Jewish Community, tens of thousands of Jews are living well, in Iran.

      Jews are being murdered in Israel, by the government, in a sanitized and organized fashion!

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    2. William ShakespeareMon Nov 18, 02:01:00 PM EST

      Murder or Abortion ...

      O! be some other name:
      What's in a name? that which we call a rose.
      By any other name would smell as sweet;

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    3. You are confusing your plays, Bill.

      Your quote comes from a play with very little violence in it, and I can't recall you ever taking abortion as a topic.

      You're just passing gas from your grave.

      Quit now 'fore you sully your reputation.

      bob

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    4. Allen wrote:

      ",,,if they do take down Iran..."

      Do you think that is possible, to "take down Iran"? What would a 'taken down' Iran look like?

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    5. Think radioactivity via tactical nukes.

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  32. Quirk, is CAIR registered as a rep of a foreign government?

    Don't really know, but they sit around the White House a LOT.

    If they are not, should they be? Why and why not.

    What differenciates this group from AIPAC?

    bob

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    1. It's amazing, all this chatter about AIPAC.

      More Jewish people in the United States voted for Obama than not.

      Whatever the dreaded AIPAC is one thing they aren't is really effective.

      bob

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    2. A quick look a their web site ...
      No calls for a War on anyone ...

      No demands for "more" foreign aid, guns or butter.

      These are the issues that CAIR cares about

      CAIR 2013 legislative fact sheets

      CAIR: Oppose Warrantless Government Spying on American Phone Calls and Emails
      Oppose Indefinite Detention and Immediately Close the Prison at Guantanamo Bay

      CAIR: Federal Watchlist and Border Crossing Issues of 2013

      CAIR: Stop the Extra-Judicial Exile of American Citizens Traveling Abroad

      CAIR: Stop Racial and Religious Profiling Abuses at the American Border

      CAIR Michigan: Border Harassment of Muslims Report, 2011

      CAIR: Reform the Department of Homeland Security TRIP Program

      CAIR: Support the End Racial Profiling Act of 2013
      End Racial Profiling Act of 2013

      Support Comprehensive Immigration Reform Legislation

      CAIR: Support Federal Anti-Bullying Reform
      Safe Schools Improvement Act of 2013 (H.R. 1199 / S. 403)

      CAIR: Help Close Department of Justice Loophole on Racial Profiling

      White Papers
      CAIR: Denied the Right to Return Home - The Extrajudicial Exile of American Citizens

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    3. http://www.cair.com/government-affairs/issues-and-legislation.html

      Delete
    4. You may have shown they are not dumb enough to put their real agenda on their website.

      About 504,000 results (0.36 seconds)
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      www.investigativeproject.org/.../doj-cairs-unindicted-co-conspirator-stat...‎
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      List of Unindicted Co-conspirators and/or Joint Venturers*. (It should be noted that .... Council on American Islamic Relations, aka CAIR. 12. Dalell Mohamed. 13.
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      and a thousand more

      Bob

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    5. Financial aid to Israel has increased, under the Obama tenure.
      Israel is exempted from Federal Sequestration, during the Obama tenure.

      AIPAC is doing its job, just fine.
      Look to the realities, not the rhetoric.

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    6. and a thousand more ...

      The recipe for perpetual ignorance is:
      Be satisfied with your opinions and content with your knowledge.



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    7. I think I read that CAIR has changed its name.to Washington Trust Foundation.

      Sounds like an investment bank now.

      Wtf is WTF?

      A front for terrorism.

      bob

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    8. “I have always regarded as a stroke of good fortune that I was not born or brought up in a small American town;
      they may be the backbone of the nation,
      but they are also the backbone of ignorance, bigotry, and boredom, all in vast quantities.”

      Delete
  33. Cold Brussel Sprouts are awful.

    Yuck

    bob

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  34. Your history aint much better toots...

    Not a single one my topics had anything to do with that stretch of sand on the Med, and none ever will. Especially now.

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    1. The break was much appreciated by me.

      You were gone before I even woke up one morning.

      Bob

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    2. It is not the topics you chose, Ms T, that quot finds offensive.

      Ethnicity, color, religion, gender, sexual orientation, these are the things that drive the quot.
      You do not fit the profile of the 'kind' of people he respects.

      Delete
    3. No, it is not.

      Ms T di nothing to generate the vile comments made by quot.
      But quot has repeatedly disparaged Ms T for her ethnicity, for beng 'brown', a fallen a-way Catholic, for being a lesbian, for not being a lesbian, for lying, for telling the truth, for being alive and female.

      For years on end.
      He has been rude to Ms T.
      Vile in his descriptions and characterizations of her.

      His comments then, and now, have nothing to do with the comments of the day, but are based upon the traits of the character.
      Ethnicity, color, religion, gender, sexual orientation, these are the things that drive the quot, with regards Ms T.

      Delete
    4. Naw, what drives WiO's animosity to MIss T is some of her politics and statements regarding Israel, the Bible, and Jews.

      "He has been rude to Ms. T"

      Hilarious coming from the blog's self professed asshole who has been rude for the last decade and more, even back to the days of Belmont Club where everyone hooted you.

      Bwabwabwabwahahahahaha

      hootHootHOOTHOOTHoothoot

      bob

      You are a sick man.

      You need help.

      Bob

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    5. At least six people here have diagnosed you as having mental problems.

      Get help now.

      Bob

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    6. Remember Rat believes in being the "gentleman murderer".. polite and will slice your head off with a please and thank you.

      As Rat murders you he can be counted on for manners, unless he's off his meds, then? He's as rude a pile of cow vomit.

      Delete
    7. Teresita RedingerMon Nov 18, 02:27:00 PM EST
      Your history aint much better toots...

      Not a single one my topics had anything to do with that stretch of sand on the Med, and none ever will. Especially now.



      You lying sack of shit....

      Delete
    8. Who were those "people", who were they Fudd?

      What were their names?
      First and last.
      Addresses, either e-mail or physical & telephone number?

      Where do we call to get confirmation of your claims?

      Delete
    9. E.D.E.N. SouthworthMon Nov 18, 04:39:00 PM EST


      “It means that you two, precious father and son, the Dimwitted Duo would be a pair of knaves
      if you had sense enough; but, failing in that, you are only a pair of fools!”

      Delete
  35. Now the only thing that remains is to remove my name as a librarian here. Truth in advertising, and all that tommyrot, wot?

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    1. Good move, that.

      The librarians couldn't run a small city's sewer system.

      Bob

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    2. you are a pain in the ass....

      seriously...

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    3. And you are Farmer Fudd, the misogynist, racist, narcissist, bigoted fascist Farmer Fudd.


      literally ....

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  36. Hollande and Netanyahu get together; France vows to stay strong on Iranian nuke deal
    POSTED AT 12:21 PM ON NOVEMBER 18, 2013 BY ERIKA JOHNSEN


    French President Francois Hollande began a three-day visit to Israel over the weekend, and Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu was all smiles and full of praise for the French delegation that was apparently the last holdout in thwarting a “bad deal” that would have traded sanctions relief for some all-but-meaningless nuclear concessions from the Iranians:

    Hollande vowed to keep up pressure on Iran and not make any concessions regarding nuclear proliferation. …

    Speaking alongside Hollande, Netanyahu once again warned that Iran could soon have enough fissile material to develop a bomb within weeks and that Israel would not be bound to what he called a “bad deal.” At the same time, he thanked Hollande for leading a tough stance that has blocked a deal thus far. …

    Netanyahu has tried to play down his differences with the Obama administration as a disagreement between the “best of friends,” but he went out of his way to charm Hollande — peppering his remarks with French and embracing him often. …

    “Israel sees in France a true friend,” Netanyahu said at the ceremony. …

    “The goal is that Iran renounces nuclear weapons forever,” he said Sunday. “We are against nuclear proliferation, and in Iran there has been a will — even once expressed — to enrich uranium to military capabilities.”

    But whether or not France will stick to their guns when push comes to shove, however, is anybody’s guess. The Israelis are all too aware of the White House’s practically unbridled ambition to play the role of peacemaking power brokers and finally administer some kind (any kind) of deal with the Iranians, and the Obama administration will definitely be applying the pressure when negotiations pick up again this Wednesday. Hollande’s help might be Netanyahu’s last, best chance to stay what he insists is a terrible deal, as he explained on CNN this morning: If some of the sanctions are reduced but Iran decides not to follow through on their end of the deal, reimplementing the sanctions is no easily reversible feat. Via NRO:

    video

    http://hotair.com/archives/2013/11/18/hollande-and-netanyahu-get-together-france-vows-to-stay-strong-on-iranian-nuke-deal/

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    1. .

      France and Saudi Arabia both have agendas.

      Hollande has only been in office a little over a year and yet recent polls show 80% of the French expect Holland to lose the next French election. He has every reason the try to stick it to the US (always a popular pastime in France). He also has commercial interests with Saudi Arabia and Israel. He would love to expand France's influence in the ME from its current nil position.

      Saudi Arabia wants to become the regional Hegemon in the area and other than Qatar, Iran is the only thing standing in her way. The sectarian strife between the Sunni Sa and the Shia Iran merely adds fuel to the fire.

      All that being said< I doubt there is much to the story. Saudi Arabia supporting Israel against another Muslim country even if it is Shia? Find it kind of hard to believe unless it money under the table and access to air space.

      France? I doubt Hollande will hold out for long; however, who knows. He is a sinking ship right now in France. Maybe he will do something desperate.

      .

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    2. Who doesn't have an agenda?

      Obama's agenda, for instance, is to support the moslems.

      Bob

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    3. Iran's agenda is to wipe out Israel.

      Bob

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    4. You are INSANE

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  37. Ethnicity, color, religion, gender, sexual orientation, these are the things that drive the quot.
    You do not fit the profile of the 'kind' of people he respects.


    The respect of WiO ranks somewhere between psorriasis and a yeast infection on the scale of things I want. The only advice I have to offer the blog sounds more like a curse, but as ye sew so shall ye reap.

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    1. And a healthy "fuck you" right back at ya!

      At last check this makes 7 times you have stormed off bitching like some wounded cow...

      That doesn't count the time you lied the entire blog about being a lesbian catholic for 2.5 years...

      yep... the liar finds faults on others and yet?

      is blind to their own...

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    2. End the OccupationMon Nov 18, 04:40:00 PM EST

      He cares so much ...

      He counts the times she left him ...

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  38. Replies
    1. .

      Reminds me of a time we were up north here in Michigan, met a couple girls, got drunk and decided to go skiing. Unfortunately, the this was in the 70's, a strange time for clothes. The pants I was wearing had buttons up the front rather than a zipper. After a couple hours pretending to ski we finished and I went to take a piss. I look down and my dick and balls had turned blue. My first thought was that I probably had frostbite and that I would lose my junk.

      After about a half hour sitting in the bar drinking I was back to normal.

      The others had a pretty good laugh about it.

      .

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    2. Where were you when you showed them?

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    3. Typical Quirk, dumb as a stump. Distracted by any girl, poor Quirk could freeze to death.

      Only his thirst for alcohol saved him here.

      Bob

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    4. .

      Didn't actually show them, Dougo, but I can wax poetic when the subject is my tool.

      .

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    5. This is true. I've heard it. I've heard him talking to Miss Quickly.

      When Quirk and Quickly are talking tools and tool boxes it is really something.

      Bob

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    6. .

      By the way, that reminds me of a commercial I saw the other day. It was for a spray on condom (Trojan I think). Damndest thing I have ever seen. Naturally, they didn't show it being applied which left something to the imagination. In fact, it left a lot to the imagination such as how you get it off.

      After I started writing this, I decided to check google to find the commercial. I came across this.

      http://search.comcast.net/search/?cat=web&con=toolbar&form_submit=1&q=spray+on+condom&top_SearchSubmit=

      Talk about a buzz kill. "Hold on honey. Let me just slip this machine on for a few seconds and I will be right with you."

      .

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    7. .

      According to this Time article the idea is to provide the perfect fit and also to prevent the embarrassment of going into a drug store and having to ask for a 'small' size. Of course, I don't have that problem since the Trojan Magnums (15% bigger than normal) provide the perfect fit.

      http://content.time.com/time/business/article/0,8599,1832445,00.html

      .

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  39. .

    AnonymousMon Nov 18, 02:00:00 PM EST

    Quirk, is CAIR registered as a rep of a foreign government?

    Don't really know, but they sit around the White House a LOT.

    If they are not, should they be? Why and why not.


    What differenciates this group from AIPAC?


    What government are they supposed to be representing in that silly little mind of yours?

    As to why they should not register as the agent of a foreign government, look at question 1 and then go visit their website rather than reading about it on American Thinker.

    Differences between CAIR and AIPAC (I assume you are asking the question relative to the question of who should be registering as an agent of a foreign government).

    Again look at the two websites and how they describe their goals.

    - On the CAIR website, the first picture you see is a picture from CAIR-FL showing CAIR organizing Muslim veterans for the Miami Veteran's Day parade. On the AIPAC site, you see a couple of Israeli flags dwarfing an American flag.

    - Above you will see posted their legislative fact sheet. Theirs is about Muslim American issues. AIPAC's is about Israel's issues.

    - You state that CAIR wouldn't state their real intentions on their website. Possibly true. However, the people at AIPAC are so arrogant they think nothing of posting theirs which is the same as the current government of Israel.



    Whatever the dreaded AIPAC is one thing they aren't is really effective.

    You say you are an AIPAC member but evidently you don't even check out the website. One of the biggest stories mentioned is that at their annual policy conference the got 2/3 of Congress to attend along with most of their staff. As for the other issues, don't you read the papers or are you too fixated on American Thinker and JihadWatch?

    Lord, you are as dumb as a stump.

    ..



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    1. You were the one that got your face smashed in over at Butte, Montana, stump.

      "You state that CAIR wouldn't state their real intentions on their website. Possibly true. However, the people at AIPAC are so arrogant they think nothing of posting theirs which is the same as the current government of Israel."

      It is the same as Israel's, so what?

      And CAIR is a front for terrorism.

      You go ahead and join CAIR aka WTF and I'll stick with AIPAC.

      Have you got your faux ObamaCarfeRebateHere website that you were bragging about the other day set up yet?

      Bob


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    2. Damn, I don't want people to miss it - it is

      Quirk'sObamaCareRebateHere

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    3. 152
      Too many short posts, Bobbo.
      200 Nears

      Obama Policies Spur Economy

      ...of Washington DC

      DC now fastest growing region of one percenters in the county...

      Overtakes NY, LA...

      'INCOME GAP' WIDENS...

      Cher calls Sarah Palin a 'DUMB C WORD'...

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    4. If anyone would know a dumb "c", it would be Cher. What a shame, she is a gifted actress.

      Delete
    5. Bob the very fact that our own brilliant "quirk" can't see what a group CAIR is shows us that he is blind.

      To compare AIPAC with Cair?

      yikes.

      I only hope that Quirk's grandkids date, marry and reproduce with card carrying CAIR members.


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    6. .

      WiO, you and the faux farmer are like children, the incarnation of the Bobsey Twins at the Seashore.

      You, once again, prove yourself incapable of reading a couple of simple posts and understanding the issues involved. Bob claims to be an AIPAC member yet never visits their website. You guys are like the young spoiled kids who believe in Santa Claus and strike out in frustration when an adult tells you the facts of life.

      To compare AIPAC to CAIR?

      You friggin moron, that's what your butt buddy asked me to do.


      Bob the very fact that our own brilliant "quirk" can't see what a group CAIR is shows us that he is blind.

      You assume that because I answered 'no' to the question 'should CAIR register as the agent of a foreign government', that I was somehow approving of CAIR the organization. Once again, you prove yourself a simpleton, a guy blinded by his own partisan nature and his 'sensitivity', that along with the inability to read and understand of course.

      Then, as is the wont of you, Bob, the rat and the rest of your sordid ilk, in a hissy fit brought on by your frustration you stoop to comments not directed at me but to my family. You are one slimey son of a bitch.

      .

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  40. If we look at the Yinon Plan, then look at the actions of Mr Obama, it is hard to say he is not on board with it.

    In Iraq, the US withdrew, totally, leaving the factions to fend for themselves amongst themselves, with no arbitrator.
    Kurdistan is a viable entity in Iraq and may soon merge in spirit if not fact with the Syrian Kurds.
    The Shia and Sunni have much better lines of demarcation now, than when Saddam ran the show.
    Per the Yinon Plan
    Libya is totally factionalized, by tribal alliances.
    Sudan, split north/south.
    Syria ... speaks for itself.
    Jordon is being stressed, by the Syrian and Iraqi conflicts.
    Lebanon is factionalized, with US subsidies to the elected government.
    Turkey, beset by Kurdistan in Syria and Iraq, a million Syrians have taken up residence in Turkey.

    Iran under dire stress from the sanction regime that the US has imposed.

    Mr Obama is still right on course.
    The Neo-Con Plan was never to "Democratize" those countries, it was to destabilize them.

    That is why Mr Obama supported the early elections in Egypt.
    Gave those Kabuki style speeches, waxing eloquent and in glowing terms about the results.

    Then after a year, the US Security Partner, using Mr Kerry's phraseology, arrested the newly elected President,
    disbanded the government and created a free fire zone in parts of the Sinai.

    If the Yinon Plan is the blueprint, the way forward for Israel.

    Then they have no better friend than Barack Obama.

    Don't kid yourself into thinking otherwise.
    The boys on the bridge may want to pour on some coal, get the steam up, speed up the process.

    The Captain of the Ship of State, he has the throttle, trying to feel the pulse ...
    As Lester Crown said ...

    “I still think he will pull the trigger when that particular point comes.
    The real question is, Will it be in time or will it be a day late?”


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    1. You have not laid out your proof sets to your satisfaction..In short, in your own words, who wants destabilization and why? I am not going to check your quote for veracity, your history makes the effort a waste of time.

      Delete
    2. He writes or copies fiction. Period.

      The good news? He's a nobody a "cyber fart".

      Meanwhile I keep building, creating and growing.

      Rat keeps shoveling horse shit both literally and figuratively.

      Delete
  41. Toronto Mayor flattens council woman. Coming up on Fox now.

    Bob

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    1. Can't find a video of the event yet on UTube but it is a close legal call as to whether it is an assault or not. He moved across the entire room to get there, and his hand is definitely on her, but he also sorta catches her and leaves immediately. "Flattens' is too severe a word. He did bump, or something, her. If a video comes up will post it.

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  42. Let Netanyahu and the Saudi king fight their own wars. It doesn’t much matter in this case what Israel, Jewish lobbyists, or any of the Neocons (take your pick) want. Following what turned out to be the absolute pointlessness of our wars in Iraq and Afghanistan (wars I initially supported), Americans have zero appetite for military involvement, particularly in the Middle East, that isn't explicitly and unquestionably for the purpose of self-defense. Let's not forget the key role Americans played in stopping Obama's insane plan to intervene militarily in Syria. Imagine the reaction if he attempted to do the same in Iran, unless he could prove -- as opposed to merely contend, no matter how solemnly -- that national security (of the United States, not of Israel) was very much at stake.

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  43. Israel and Saudi Arabia have devoted extensive efforts to hampering a potential agreement between Iran and six major world powers over issues surrounding Tehran’s nuclear energy program. It will be a sight to behold watching Netanyahu eat shit.

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  44. It is a judgement call as to whether and at what point the direct national security of the USA may be at stake.

    This is what the argument is all about.

    Israel's security, as well as that of Saudi Arabia and Europe, seems more directly threatened, but perhaps that is a false perception.

    And we do have an interest in the security of Israel and Europe. (despite Obama)

    "Death To America", they continually say.

    'Tehran's nuclear energy program' -- heh heh, you jest

    Sleep tight, Obama's not going to do a thing, you are not doomed.

    Bob

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    1. " It will be a sight to behold watching Netanyahu eat shit."

      This is direct, but very unbecoming from such a thoughtful woman as yourself.

      Most Ladies would be repelled by the sight of any human being doing such a thing.

      Bob

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    2. Jenny is an anti-semite. I am sure others on this site will rush to her defense and call me names.

      But she is what she is....

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  45. We cannot banish dangers, but we can banish fears.
    We must not demean life by standing in awe of death.

    It is really nothing more than a riffling wind.
    A breeze blowing through the forest of the mind

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    1. Sometimes when people give advice they really are trying to help.

      Six here have identified you as having mental problems.

      All must think you need help. Many have said so.

      IIRC, even WiO says you are not doomed yet, though perhaps deserved to be so.

      We have your best interests at heart. Repeat that to yourself constantly.

      Repeat to yourself: 'They are concerned about my mental health" like a mantra.

      Bob

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    2. The rule is perfect: in all matters of opinion our adversaries are insane.

      Delete
  46. Saw the video again on Fox. The Mayor of Toronto does indeed seem to push the woman down. And he crossed the whole room to do so.

    Hope charges are filed, and she sues him too.

    Bob

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    1. Why would you wish that upon your own brother?

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    2. Stay out of the forest of the mind
      Far removed from the shadows there
      Danger lurks where you fear to look
      The rat that gnawed your nose will bite you in the ass.

      Delete
    3. He looks just like you, rat, interacting with your first wife, who fled for Salvador once released from the maternity ward.

      S m a r t woman.

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    4. Assuming you actually took her to the maternity ward, of course. Perhaps to save money you did not, and she just "dropped the kid", in your wonderful phrase, on the living room floor, or in the bed of the pickup truck, and then she fled to Salvador.

      Delete
    5. “A truth that's told with bad intent
      Beats all the lies you can invent.”

      Delete
    6. If he looks like me, it is only because my daddy fucked your mother.

      Delete
  47. In Washington, Ill., Janni Johnson picked through the rubble of her home with her husband, Tony, late in the afternoon Monday. They gathered a few coats, one of their two children's backpacks and shoes.

    They were looking for valuables in the basement but knew they could only bring what they could carry out with them, so they were packing up suitcases and backpacks.

    "I'm just grateful to be alive," said Ms. Johnson, who road out the storm in her basement with her family while a tornado passed over their home, where they have lived for nearly a decade. "We threw a beanbag chair over our heads, and I screamed for everyone to huddle together."

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  48. On this day in 1928, the black-and-white cartoon “Steamboat Willie” premiered in New York. The animation, by Walt Disney, marked the successful public debut of Mickey and Minnie Mouse.

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  49. If someone puts up about 5 more post you will be at 200 and hopefully today's farce will come to an end.

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  50. Here's an article that argues Iran can, probably, be contained -

    Advice From Kennedy

    http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-11-17/kennedy-showed-how-to-contain-iran.html

    Seems to argue at times that all we might need is a "Hot Line"

    But also argues that we can hopefully count on the rationality of the mullahs.

    Intuitively these points seem somehow at odds. If things get to the point where you need a hotline.....

    I doubt the Israelis will buy the arguments presented in this article.

    Bob

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