The President had to go with the health care portal he had rather than the one he wanted because Fox News was breathing down his neck. Global warming, the Philippines typhoon, HIV, and unrest in the Arab world are all caused by Fox News. World hunger is the fault of Fox News. When your bread lands peanut butter side down, or your tires wear unevenly, or your milk expires right on the expiration date with no slack, Murdoch smiles and Fox News pats itself on the back, because Fox News is the new Bush.
Friday, November 15, 2013
BOOM!! All Hail Neal Cavuto and His Destruction of Obama for Blaming Fox News for Problems
The President had to go with the health care portal he had rather than the one he wanted because Fox News was breathing down his neck. Global warming, the Philippines typhoon, HIV, and unrest in the Arab world are all caused by Fox News. World hunger is the fault of Fox News. When your bread lands peanut butter side down, or your tires wear unevenly, or your milk expires right on the expiration date with no slack, Murdoch smiles and Fox News pats itself on the back, because Fox News is the new Bush.
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A Contrast: A Saudi Prince’s influence on Fox News vs. Murdoch family’s lack of influence on Rotana
ReplyDeleteBy Shoebat Foundation
Last year, Rupert Murdoch’s Newscorp. significantly increased its ownership in a media entity headed by Saudi Prince Alwaleed Bin Talal.
Via Arabian Business:
News Corp will pay $35m for the shares, which will take its stake in Rotana to 18.97 percent.
Last year, News Corp upped its stake to 14.53 percent.
The acquisition was announced after a meeting of the Rotana board chaired by Prince Alwaleed Bin Talal, chairman of Rotana Holding, the Saudi Gazette reported.
Rotana owns the Arab world’s largest record label and about 40 percent of the region’s movies, and operates a number of free-to-air television channels.
Conversely, Bin Talal is the second largest shareholder of Newscorp. As such, the Saudi Prince has demonstrated an ability to influence how news is portrayed on Fox News Channel. For example, back in 2005, during coverage of Muslim riots in France, Fox News displayed a banner that identified the riots for what they were – “Muslim riots”.
Bin Talal relayed what happened next, via Think Progress:
picked up the phone and called Murdoch… (and told him) these are not Muslim riots, these are riots out of poverty.
Within 30 minutes, the title was changed from Muslim riots to civil riots.
This leads us to the kind of programming that airs on the Rotanna network. Does Rupert Murdoch or his son James have the ability to influence Rotana content? Assuming that both are appalled by songs that glorify martyrdom and programs that heap praise on hardened criminals, the answer is most likely no.
First, consider the example of Lebanese singer Fadl Shaker. During a lengthy interview he gave that appeared on Rotana Khalījīya, he sang the following song, translated thusly:
“O Mother, my religion calls me for Jihad and martyrdom.
O Mother I am going to eternity and I will not falter.
O Mother do not cry if I became one of the fallen.
Death does not scare me for my wish is to be martyred.
It’s ‘Allahu Akbar’, every time the bombs sing.
It’s Allahu Akbar, when the bullets announce their sound and chirp. It’s Allahu Akbar, the blood of my brothers is not in vain.
Victory is coming forth and righteousness has elevated its heat.
We refuse to submit and our concern is to erect our banner forever.
We refuse to bow to tyrants.
Death does not fear me and my wish is to be martyred.”
Another interview that aired on a Rotana program featured a convicted and hardened criminal named Homaidan Al-Turki, who is serving a prison sentence in Colorado for – among other things – theft, human trafficking, enslavement, rape, and molestation of an Indonesian minor. One does not need this interview translated to see that Al-Turki is being a given a platform and presented to an audience that very much wants his release.
Among other things, these examples seem to demonstrate that Bin Talal has the power to exert his influence on Fox News to the point of getting the network to retract truthful reporting.
Conversely, the Murdochs are either incapable or unwilling to demand Talal’s network not promote criminals and criminal behavior.
http://shoebat.com/2013/04/25/a-contrast-a-saudi-princes-influence-on-fox-news-vs-murdoch-familys-lack-of-influence-on-rotana/
Ryan Mauro: You have devoted a lot of your time towards covering Saudi Prince Alwaleed Bin Talal. Can you tell us about him and why he warrants this attention?
ReplyDeleteDiana West: Prince Alwaleed bin Talal is usually described as a billionaire Saudi businessman, but he is also a senior member of the Saudi monarchy. He is the nephew of the Saudi dictator, King Abdullah, and the first cousin of the Saudi interior minister, Prince Mohammed bin Nayef. He is also the largest stakeholder in Rupert Murdoch’s News Corp. outside the Murdoch family.
We may not realize it, but most of us first heard about Prince Alwaleed bin Talal in the immediate aftermath 9/11. That was when a “Saudi prince” — it was Alwaleed — became infamous for having donated $10 million to the Twin Towers Fund only to have then-mayor Rudy Giuliani return the check.
Why did Giuliani return the check? It became clear the prince wasn’t making a donation but rather a political statement. After presenting the money, the prince issued a press release blaming the 9/11 attacks on American support for Israel — while, as Alwaleed’s statement read, “our Palestinian brethren continue to be slaughtered at the hands of the Israelis.”
The mayor, who had been told of the press release just moments before his daily briefing but after receiving the check, was visibly annoyed. “I entirely reject that statement,” he said. “That’s totally contrary to what I said at the United Nations,” he added, referring to his address there last Monday.
“There is no moral equivalent for this act,” the mayor said. “There is no justification for it. The people who did it lost any right to ask for justification for it when they slaughtered thousands of innocent people. And to suggest that there’s a justification for it only invites this happening in the future. It is highly irresponsible and very, very dangerous.”
Back then, all the FOX News commentators spoke out in favor of Rudy’s decision and condemned the Saudi Prince’s efforts to buy influence in the media.
Following Giuliani’s rebuff, Alwaleed opened his purse in 2002 to the families of killers instead, donating a whopping $27 million to a Saudi telethon raising money for the Committee for the Support of the al-Quds Intifada, a Saudi “charity” chaired by the then-Interior Minister of Saudi Arabia (now Crown Prince Nayef, another uncle of Alwaleed’s). He gave $500,000 that same year to CAIR, the Muslim Brotherhood, Hamas-linked group.
But soon, the Saudi billionaire was spending his money quite differently.
DeleteIn 2005, Alwaleed purchased a 5.5 percent stake of voting stock in the Murdoch-owned News Corp (he now owns 7 percent).
He also spent $40 million to enlarge Islamic studies on leading American campuses, donating $20 million to Harvard to create a university-wide Islamic studies program, which also boosted Islamic law (sharia) studies on campus, and $20 million to Georgetown to set up the Alwaleed Center for Muslim-Christian Understanding under Islamic apologist John Esposito.
The News Corp. investment began paying off right away. Also in 2005, with Muslims rioting in Paris in the worst street violence since 1968, Alwaleed telephoned Rupert Murdoch, as Alwaleed himself told an audience in Dubai, and said “these are not Muslim riots, they are riots.” Presto, the Fox News crawl about “Muslim riots in Paris” across the bottom of the screen changed to “civil riots.”
Ryan Mauro: Is there any evidence of Alwaleed’s influence in the media since 2005? And if his influence is so strong, why does Fox News continue to have people on that are tough on Saudi Arabia, Al-Jazeera and the Muslim Brotherhood, including top foes of CAIR like Zuhdi Jasser?
Diana West: Fox News covers security threats, terrorism, and war. Zuhdi Jasser and others oppose the “extremism” that fuels them all without identifying such “extremism” as the mainstream Islamic doctrine set by Mohammed and the Koran. Meanwhile, the appearance of one or more such guests is no way compensates for the seemingly strategic and certainly gaping holes in Fox’s coverage, also noted below.
While Alwaleed has not made news for bragging publicly about his influence over Fox News since that incident in 2005, there is no concrete “evidence” of his influence. But that’s not how influence usually works. It is intangible, something no more concrete than a rejected story, something no less natural than the body of stories that develops from such editorial discretion, which, of course, can also includes positive reinforcement.
http://www.barenakedislam.com/2013/03/04/saudi-influence-peddling-and-why-fox-news-has-gone-all-soft-on-islam/
DeleteSaudis Influencing Fox News
ReplyDeleteIt is of the utmost importance to begin to notice, to scrutinize and assess what Fox covers and -- more important -- what it doesn't and why.
http://www.clarionproject.org/analysis/interview-diana-west-saudi-influence-fox-news
It is actually of no importance to me, I get my news from my Twitter feed and the RealClear portal, not Faux Noise. But I can't stomach blame-shifting politicians.
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ReplyDeleteThe Daily Show with Jon Stewart
The Parent Company Trap
Fox News is either evil or stupid for not mentioning that Alwaleed bin Talal is News Corp.'s largest shareholder. (09:39)
http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/mon-august-23-2010/the-parent-company-trap
Or smart, if they can increase their profits by NOT mentioning it.
DeleteThe Parent Company Trap
ReplyDeleteFox News is either evil or stupid for not mentioning that Alwaleed bin Talal is News Corp.'s largest shareholder. (09:39)
Fox News is so stupid it laughs all the way to the bank. And viewers, they have viewers. Send a resume: I'm sure Fox would be interested in your considered opinions.
He could report on our T Party President and Senate.
DeleteThe Gerrymandered Senate whose Democrats were forced to vote against their will.
DeleteQuestion:
DeleteHow do you gerrymander a state?
Jon Stewart will know.
DeleteThe Source of "News" For the Low Information Crowd.
He has, did a good piece on the ACA roll out..
Deleteallen provided the link a day or three ago.
Funny stuff, too.
What are the names of the Senators that were forced to vote against their will.
DeleteBy whom were they forced and how?
No doubt that FOX News has found a niche market in the Senior citizen segment of the market.
DeleteIt is not their market share, but their biases that rankle.
To measure journalism solely by the financial success of the product ...
Creates a product that leaves most folks in the "Low Information Zone".
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Red State Senators, whose Congresscritters are chosen by Gerrymandered Districts.
DeleteAs they are in Blue States.
Senators, not so much:
2 Senators per State, both the Red Ones and the Blue Ones.
I know how many Senators represent each sate.
DeleteYou said the Senate was gerrymandered, that Senators were 'forced' to vote against their will.
The Gerrymandered Senate whose Democrats were forced to vote against their will.
Which Senators, who forced them and how?
Was the question ....
Still waiting for that answer.
And I and most of the readers, I think, know what gerrymandering is.
DeleteAs you say, it is hard to 'gerrymander' an entire state.
How do you Gerrymander the Senate when a Senator is a state-wide office?
DeleteYou could gerrymander an entire state, Ms T by applying different hours of polling place operations depending upon partisanship. Use the Secretary of State's power and authority to limit the number of voting booths in the opponent Parties strongholds. By using various forms o voter intimidation, id checks, poll taxes and literacy tests (back in the day).
DeleteIt is not as obvious as gerrymandering a Congressional District, but some states have attempted to influence the voter turnout, by manipulating the polling places, hours of operation and staffing.
We have ballot-by-mail here, doesn't apply, unless you think they can Gerrymander by dumping ballots from "liberal" precincts where they dumped Jimmy Hoffa.
DeleteGerrymandering an entire state wide election, an attempt illustrated.
DeleteOhio GOP Admits Early Voting Cutbacks Are Racially Motivated
Ari Berman on August 20, 2012 - 8:48 AM ET
Earlier this month I reported how Ohio Republicans were limiting early voting hours in Democratic counties, while expanding them on nights and weekends in Republican counties.
In response to the public outcry, Ohio Secretary of State Jon Husted, who intervened in favor of limiting early voting hours in Democratic counties, issued a statewide directive mandating uniform early voting hours in all eighty-eight Ohio counties. Husted kept early voting hours from 8 am to 5 pm on weekdays from October 2 to 19 and broadened hours from 8 am to 7 pm from October 22 to November 2. But he refused to expand early voting hours beyond 7 pm during the week, on weekends or three days prior to the election (which is being challenged in court by the Obama campaign)—when it is most convenient for many working Ohioans to vote. Rather than expanding early voting hours across the state, Husted limited them for everybody. Voter suppression for all!
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Husted’s drastic action marks a dark day for democracy in Ohio. “Historically, the Montgomery County Board of Elections has been very well-run and is widely viewed as one of the best board of elections in the state,” says Ellis Jacobs, an attorney with the nonpartisan Miami Valley Voter Protection Coalition. “The board of elections planned ahead to maximize voters’ access to the polls and now they’re being punished by the secretary of state for doing their job so well.”
Why do Ohio Republicans suddenly feel so strongly about limiting early voting hours in Democratic counties?
Franklin County (Columbus) GOP Chair Doug Preisse gave a surprisingly blunt answer to the Columbus Dispatch on Sunday:
“I guess I really actually feel we shouldn’t contort the voting process to accommodate the urban—read African-American—voter-turnout machine.”
Preisse is not some rogue operative but the chairman of the Republican Party in Ohio’s second-largest county and a close adviser to Ohio Governor John Kasich.
Like Pennsylvania House majority leader Mike Turzai, who said his state’s voter ID law “is gonna allow Governor Romney to win the state of Pennsylvania,” Preisse said publicly what many Republicans believe privately—keeping turnout down among Obama supporters is the best way for the GOP to win the 2012 election. That’s why, since the 2010 election, Republicans have devoted so much energy to voter-suppression efforts like limiting early voting hours, restricting voter registration drives, passing voter ID laws, and purging the voter rolls.
Cutbacks to early voting disproportionately disenfranchise African-American voters in Ohio. African-Americans comprise 21 percent of the population in Franklin and Montgomery counties and 28 percent in Cleveland’s Cuyahoga County but accounted for 31 percent, 52 percent and 56 percent of early voters in the respective counties in 2008. (Nearly half of early voters in Franklin County in 2008 did so on nights or weekends.)
Now it’ll be harder for voters across Ohio, particularly in the most populous, heavily Democratic cities, to find a convenient time to vote before Election Day in order to avoid the long lines that plagued the state in 2004 and may have cost John Kerry the election
http://www.thenation.com/blog/169454/ohio-gop-admits-early-voting-cutbacks-are-racially-motivated#
ReplyDeleteBoth Barack Obama and Sarah Palin illustrate the correctness of Zibgniew's comment ....
“We have a large public that is very ignorant about public affairs and very susceptible to simplistic slogans by candidates who appear out of nowhere, have no track record, but mouth appealing slogans”
― Zbigniew Brzezinski
I bring it up only because we were discussing Mr Brzezinski in the last thread.
His connection to Mr Obama, his mother and Mr Obama's career.
Drill baby, drill, you betcha. Gotta catch up to Siberia. I can see their oil derricks from my house.
DeleteThe ObamaCare Dozen
ReplyDeleteThe Democrats who voted for the debacle are now scrambling for cover.
Updated Nov. 11, 2013 6:54 p.m. ET
The torrents of Affordable Care Act monsoon season aren't letting up, so Democrats are scrambling to help the victims: namely, their own careers. The Senators up for re-election in competitive states in 2014 are starting to panic, though they still aren't offering solutions for anything other than their own growing political jeopardy.
Fifteen Senate Democrats plus Colorado's Michael Bennet who chairs the Senatorial Campaign Committee sat down at the White House Wednesday, and they want all and sundry to know that they let President Obama have it. Alaska's Mark Begich put out a statement saying he chewed out the big cheese for "absolutely unacceptable" mismanagement and "an understandable crisis in confidence." He must have drafted it in advance.
Oregon's Jeff Merkley chimed in to report that even after the two-hour encounter session that was not on the public schedule, he was still "very frustrated" and "I remain deeply convinced that this is a 'show-me' moment." Asked by Politico if Democrats were losing credibility, an anonymous attendee said, "You got to have it, to lose it."
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Mr. Obama held their hands and told them not to worry. But that's also what he, Bill Clinton and other horse whisperers said in 2010. The "moderates" who made the Nancy Pelosi majority went on to be wiped out in the largest turnover of House seats since 1938.
Mr. Obama then comforted the party regulars that all would be well once the exchanges launched. That day arrived, sort of, since the website doesn't work. He's now urging Democrats to keep calm because the public will love it once the subsidies start to roll out. Yet insurance is being cancelled, premiums are surging and patients like Edie Sundby can't keep their doctors.
DeleteMeanwhile, the Salesman in Chief has been exposed for his fraudulent promises. Before October Mr. Obama's rhetoric seemed desperate like Shelly Levene in "Glengarry Glen Ross," repeating discredited assurances that few believed. Now it seems somewhat sinister as he tries to falsify his history of false claims.
All of which has the ObamaCare Dozen—the Democrats who each cast the decisive 60th vote and are running for re-election in 2014—fleeing for political cover. We offer a list of the dozen nearby, and they're right to worry that voters might punish ObamaCare's implementation as they did its passage. But so far the 12 are trying to pull off nothing more than confidence tricks.
New Hampshire's Jeanne Shaheen is leading a coalition asking for an unspecified extension of ObamaCare's March 15 enrollment deadline. Mr. Begich (Alaska), Mark Pryor (Arkansas) and Mark Udall (Colorado) are among those on this bus, though Ms. Shaheen has special cause for alarm given that New Hampshire's joint state-federal exchange enlisted only a single insurer, whose narrow network excludes 10 of the state's 26 acute-care hospitals.
DeleteBut her idea would merely draw out the technical agony, and the exchange premiums are based on assumptions of a full year of coverage. Premiums may not cover claims if people delay or forgo signing up in 2014, and then rates will spike the next year. All of this would also give the exchanges a stigma as untrustworthy, more so than even Health and Human Services incompetence.
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Jeanne Shaheen. Agence France-Presse/Getty Images
The Shaheen plan also won't un-terminate insurance or help the people who face a gap in coverage through no fault of their own. Louisiana's Mary Landrieu is hoping to cauterize that crisis with a bill that supposedly allows people to keep their plan if they stay current on premiums. About 80,000 Louisiana policy holders—or half of the individual market—will be dumped in 2014, according to the state's insurance commissioner.
Here again, complex insurance contracts take months to plan financially and negotiate with providers. They could be renewed for maybe a few months but not forever, which is why the Landrieu bill is simply a new mandate ordering insurers to continue offering these plans. But the hard business truth is that these plans are already gone. The only way to solve the problem is a time machine to go back to 2010 when HHS published its deliberately restrictive rule on "grandfathering."
The Shaheen and Landrieu proposals are merely ploys for these Democrats to distance themselves from ObamaCare while still embracing it. But they can't have it both ways. Either they can vote to take down the whole regulate-subsidize-mandate apparatus for a year and propose major reforms to prevent a reprise of the last six weeks. Or else they will be enablers of the current and future disruptions, cancellations and limited health choices.
No doubt the ObamaCare Dozen noticed the Virginia Governor's race, which revealed that even presumably safe Democrats could be vulnerable on health care if Republicans can field decent candidates. As flawed and out-fundraised as GOP candidate Ken Cuccinelli was, he closed a huge gap in the polls by relentlessly belting ObamaCare in the final stretch.
Exit polls report that only 46% of the Virginia public supports ObamaCare, while 53% were opposed, 41% strongly opposed. Mr. Cuccinelli pulled 89% of those opposed. In 2014, Mr. Udall, Mr. Merkley and Virginia's Mark Warner might not be as fortunate as Terry McAuliffe.
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The ObamaCare Dozen are receiving an overdue education in the damaging consequences of the bill they supported, all of which were predicted by critics in 2010. Any one of these Senators could have prevented the current madness by voting no. And now the President they empowered to govern from the ideological left has rejected even their de minimis fixes and is promising to "grind it out" even if the problems get worse. These Senators deserve to be held accountable at the ballot box.
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DeleteThey are not the only ones. We've already seen the GOP, most of the public, John Stewart, and Bill Clinton dump on Obamacare. Now, we even have the 'second' worst president ever, Jimmy Carter, criticizing the ACA.
That's got to hurt.
http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/362888/jimmy-carter-criticizes-obama-healthcaregov-launch-andrew-johnson
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12 of 23 comments so far on this thread - 50% - by desert rat
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Before Al Gore invented the Internet, he was in a closet in his mother's house writing his stuff on the walls with a black crayon. Ain't technology grand?
DeleteBeen through the counting of posts, even words, before.
DeleteDon't like i you should contribute more.
desert rat has no posted a single word on this thread.
You comment is a bold lie, flat out.
Don't like IT, you should contribute more.
DeleteIt depends on what your definition of it is.
Delete"‘When I use a word,' Humpty Dumpty said, in rather a scornful tone, ‘it means just what I choose it to mean—neither more nor less.'
DeleteI published a lot of things under the 'pen name' of Lewis Carroll, ...
Deletebut I never 'was' Lewis Carroll, I was really Charles Lutwidge Dodgson, always.
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DeleteYou comment is a bold lie, flat out.
I don't think so.
A rat by any other name still smells...well...still smells like a rat.
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They say Lewis Carroll had an unnatural obsession with little girls.
DeleteCut and paste the desert rat avatar, that is the authentication.
DeleteThe sign-on authenticates desert rat.
You could say MY name, which is totally different that desert rat.
Like totally, man ....
But, feel free to believe whatever you want, matters not at all.
A deception that is not a deception, is what?
A ploy, a literary devise?
Perhaps no more than a riffling wind, breaking.
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DeleteYou could say MY name, which is totally different that desert rat.
You will always be the rat to us, son.
Like totally, man ....
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Regardless, Q, desert rat has not posted a word on THIS thread.
Delete.
DeleteSure, rat. Whatever you say.
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Technically, the small intestine begins at the mouth.
Delete.
ReplyDeleteSaudi Arabia is the biggest enemy the US has at the moment for numerous reasons. That FOX would sell out to one of their biggest stockholders doesn't surprise me for a minute. They are after all a business first and a 'news' organization somewhere farther down the line. That SA is associated with terrorists? Does that really surprise anyone?
On the other hand, something that could possibly surprise. I don't consider the Palestinians terrorists. However, I do consider the PA a terrorist organization. Six percent of the PA's budget goes to pay the salary of jailed terrorists. The longer the sentence, the more money the terrorists are paid. This is the money our government along with the EU pays to the PA annually.
The PA has been sticking it to the Palestinians since the Israelis allowed Arafat to come back from exile in Tunisia. The US and EU are complicit in the fraud perpetrated on the Palestinian people. Those people are lucky to see 10% of the money funneled through the PA. The rest is used as 'walking around money' fed to terrorist organizations or else it ends up in the personal bank accounts of PA leaders.
Which is worse or is there a difference, a 'news' organization that skews the way news is presented in order to please a large stockholder or a country who constantly sticks it to itsr own people in the name of 'the war on terror' and them turns around and funds terrorist organizations?
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The latter is worse, as it concerns the public purse, blood and treasure.
DeleteThe former, a business decision of an Australian expat.
Drill, Drill, Drill in Palin's Alaska
ReplyDeleteWe could go downhill skiing on that chart!
DeletePrime candidate for fracking then.
DeleteFracking in the Arctic. :) You's a trip, baby.
DeleteBust it open in the summer, let it ooze the rest of the year.
Delete.
ReplyDeleteWorld oil production
EIA stats by country. World stats at bottom.
http://www.eia.gov/cfapps/ipdbproject/iedindex3.cfm?tid=5&pid=53&aid=1&cid=regions&syid=2009&eyid=2012&unit=TBPD
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Wow, Quirk, world production at 89 million barrels a day. And here I thought Peak Oil was in 2005 and 84.5.
DeleteNo, World Oil Production (Crude + Condensate) is 75.7 mbpd,
DeleteThat other stuff is Nat gas liquids and Ethanol, which you can utilize for transportation fuel, and nat gas plant liquids, propane, etc., which can't be used for transportation fuels.
So Far, So GOOOooooood
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ReplyDeleteThere are a lot of people joking about the Obamacare rollout.
Rep. Steve Stockman says the administration now defines an Obamacare enrollee to include
- anyone who bought Dr. Feelgood
- anyone who 'didn't' enroll
- anyone who ever visited WebMD
- and the list goes on...
However, the best I had heard was that more people have signed up for a one-way trip to Mars with Mars One than had signed up for Obamacare in the first month (106,000?).
Stupid, I know but I still found it a bit of a giggle.
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DeleteBy the way, forgot to mention that 200,000 have volunteered for that one way trip to Mars.
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QuirkFri Nov 15, 08:50:00 PM EST
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You comment is a bold lie, flat out.
I don't think so.
A rat by any other name still smells...well...still smells like a rat.
QuirkFri Nov 15, 09:06:00 PM EST
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You could say MY name, which is totally different that desert rat.
You will always be the rat to us, son.
Like totally, man ....
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QuirkFri Nov 15, 09:34:00 PM EST
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Sure, rat. Whatever you say.
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ReplyDeletehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Alice_Liddell_2.jpg
They grew up fast in those days......they weren't livin' in mom and dad's basement at 25......provided their own insurance.....
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Alice_hargreaves.gif
Alice as an honored Senior Citizen, before the era of death panels......
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ReplyDeletePanama EdFri Nov 15, 08:35:00 PM EST
Been through the counting of posts, even words, before.
Don't like i you should contribute more.
desert rat has no posted a single word on this thread.
You comment is a bold lie, flat out.
*****
Sounds like a Mexican new to English.
Who new?
DeleteI no knew.
DeleteLittle did I no who new.
DeleteCould well be, or not.
DeleteBut Mexican is not a language.
What difference would it really make?
Mexico is America, too.
Cut and paste, within the thread,
Not much to be said for that technique.of edification.
Does not add much.
A lot of smiley faces, by the Q.
Deftly repeated,
DeleteThe recipe for perpetual ignorance is:
Be satisfied with your opinions and content with your knowledge.
Hey, Doug, what was the name of the 'female' poster at the BC who would count your posts, bitch and then count some more.
DeleteShe'd have made a heck of a clerk, somewhere.
Kind of anal retentive, to count the posts, figure the % of each contributor's contributions.
There were day, you and I could bust 200, by ourselves.
;-)
These novices here, think this is a 'new' thang.
As if I cared about spelling, diction or punctuation now of ever before.
Newbies ...
They're all around us.
We're not gettin' Short, are we?
You hit 200 in the middle of the night you're on your own.
DeleteLow Information "Reporters"
ReplyDeleteTOURE:
“Mary Landrieu from a red state, Senator Kay Hagan from a red state, Joe Manchin, from a red state, Senator Pryor, from a red state, Mark Begich from a red state. Do you notice anything? We see red state Democrats who are dealing with the challenge of living and governing in a gerrymandered world where sometimes they have to deal with what the folks on the right — very low support on the Republican side for this, but the folks on the right want.”
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Requiring ID to Vote is Voter Suppression.
Requiring Personal information on an insecure Government Website?
Cost of doing business.
With Crooks.
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DeleteIf Toure is your sole source, Doug, it is better than no source at all.
DeleteHe is in-house at MSNBC,
From the look of this
https://www.google.com/search?q=torre+msnbc&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a
he is not who I'd be hangin' out with, or be taking civic lessons from.
We see red state Democrats who are dealing with the challenge of living and governing in a gerrymandered world
DeleteA red state Democrat can only exist because of gerrymandering.
There would be around two, three blacks in the House without gerrymandering.
DeleteAnd they'd be Republicans.
Wonderful guys like Colonel West and a few others.
Not at all, M T.
DeleteAZ breaks north/south.
Southern AZ went Confederate States of America, is Democrat centric, through and through.
Like that Congresswoman that got shot in the head.
Central and North AZ was solidly Union. Is Republican, now.
McCain, Kyl, replaced now by Flake.
Each Presidential cycle, the State gets a little less Red, the margin of victory for the Republican candidate, it is moving on a steady trend to the South.
Lots of ObamaBashing and ObamaCareBashing going on with Hannity on Fox now!
ReplyDeleteStudio audience!
Topic: Obama's "credibility crisis"
TUNE IN ASAP
He's got no cred left, only crud.
(where did I hear that before?)
[Obamacare] is a drunken, hair-mussed, ill-shod debutante tripping and tumbling down one of those long, open, curving, red-carpeted staircases, and then, at the bottom, plowing directly through a gaggle of gasping society ladies.
ReplyDeleteAnd that was just the website. Add the alarming swath of health care cancellations across the country, and you’ve got the boozed-up debutante struggling to her feet, swigging from a whiskey bottle at the bar, and inexplicably punching her great-grandmother’s sweet best friend Trudy in the face.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2013/11/15/will_liberalism_implode__120679.html
Does anyone know when the next installment of "Ancient Aliens" is on the TV?
ReplyDeleteIt's on "The History Channel", no?
DeleteCause I wanna watch, cause I have an idea, an idea how aliens can be fitted into the Hegelian paradigm, which I've been reading about at Wiki.
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Delete“Hate is a lack of imagination.”
"If you get in bed with big government, you're going to get more than a good night's sleep."
ReplyDeleteRonald Reagan
Desert Rat said...
ReplyDelete"There were days, you and I could bust 200, by ourselves."
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Wretchard was not a fan of such behavior.
Things are different now.
Or, at least, I assume they still are.
DeleteAt Wretchard's:
DeleteMB4
"An insufferable ass is an insufferable ass, of course, of course
And no one can talk sense to an insufferable ass, of course
And especially, of course, if the insufferable ass is the famous Barack Obama
Go right to the source and ask the insufferable ass
He’ll give you the answer that deceivers will endorse
He’s always on a dissemblers course
Talk to Barack Obama
Barack Obama just yakkity yaks a streak and wastes your time of day
Does any sane person even believe anymore a single thing he has to say?
An insufferable ass is an insufferable ass, of course, of course
And this one’ll talk in prevaricating circles til his voice is hoarse
You never heard of a talking insufferable ass?
Well, listen to this
He is Barack Obama!"
Who Knew?
ReplyDeleteObama said Thursday that the administration was not only working to repair the malfunctioning site, but also improve the application process.
"What we're also discovering is that insurance is complicated to buy," he said, adding the administration would "look for different ways for people to end up applying."
Discoveries are exciting.
Barry should act excited.
Rufus should volunteer to give Barry lessons.
DeleteKrauthammer is recommending prayer to ObamaCare supporters.
DeleteKnowing Rufus, it is unlikely he will take this advice.
Rufus could become a "navigator".
DeleteHe was in the insurance business.
And he supports the program.
He would be accepted immediately.
He might end up saving "uncounted lives".
“You cannot give out one frequency, that of disrespect, and expect respect to flow toward you.
DeleteNeither can you hold on to your biases, prejudices, and negative thinking toward something, and expect that something positive will return to you.”
Mail that to the guy in Phoenix.
Delete
Delete“Never ruin an apology with an excuse.”
FIRST ALIENS WE DISCOVER MAY BE PURPLE
ReplyDelete+
13 Ways To Hunt Intelligent Aliens
In our quest to discover strange new life on strange new worlds, a group of astronomers has modeled potential alien worlds using Earth’s biological history as a framework. From this they have determined that if we are to detect extraterrestrial biology, we should fine-tune our search to the color purple.
http://news.discovery.com/space/alien-life-exoplanets/the-first-aliens-we-discover-may-be-purple-131114.htm
These are not "Ancient Aliens" folks, and this is NOT 'history'.
This be da real deal, Neil.
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DeleteDid you see my post above talking about Mars One and the fact that 200,000 people have already volunteered for a one-way trip to Mars to form a colony there?
Don't know what I think about that.
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I hope the aliens are purple, and neither red nor blue. I'd hate for an extraterrestrial bias to color Earth politics.
DeleteOne way ticket? No coming back?
ReplyDeleteWhat's the political system gonna be like?
What's the policy towards the abos?
Private property OK?
Taxation - no capital gains tax?
Blogging OK or forbidden?
What about hookers and the liquor supply?
Dozens of questions come to mind but I'm saying no cause my niece and I are going driving when she gets back, she wants to Vegas.
You're invited if you swear and cross your heart you won't try to run off with her, or leave me stranded again. And there are no trout streams.
Nah, not for me.
You get it terra-formed up good for trout, I'll visit you later.
DeleteWhat's the security force set-up gonna be on Mars?
DeleteCongressman Warns of Obamacare “Secret Security Force”
The Alex Jones Channel Alex Jones Show podcast Prison Planet TV Infowars.com Twitter Alex Jones' Facebook Infowars store
Rep. Louie Gohmert: “I want to know are they using weapons to train, or are they being taught to use syringes and health care items?”
Paul Joseph Watson
Infowars.com
November 15, 2013
During an appearance on the Janet Mefferd Show, Rep. Louie Gohmert (R-TX) warned that a provision within Obamacare could create an armed “secret security force”.
Referring to a section of the gargantuan Obamacare law which discusses “the president’s own commissioned and non-commissioned officer corps,” Gohmert drew attention to the notion that under the pretext of a “national emergency,” such individuals could be used to impose some form of medical martial law.
Under the Affordable Care Act, the Ready Reserve Corps is directed to “assist full-time Commissioned Corps personnel to meet both routine public health and emergency response missions.”
“It says it is for international health crises, but then it doesn’t include the word ‘health’ when it talks about national emergencies,” said Gohmert.
“I’ve asked, what kind of training are they getting….I want to know are they using weapons to train, or are they being taught to use syringes and health care items?” asked the Congressman, adding that “no clear answers” had been forthcoming on the issue.”
Combined with the continued DHS arms build up along with the federal agency’s hiring of armed guards with “Top Secret” security clearances, Gohmert characterized the issue as “very disturbing”.
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You better think it through carefully, Quirk. Vegas sounds better.
MEDICAL MARTIAL LAW!!
DeleteSounds like the kind of security force only a rat would sign up for.
DeleteHere's the link -
Deletehttp://www.infowars.com/congressman-warns-of-obamacare-secret-security-force/
Death Panel Police comes to mind.
DeleteWho was that female geezer around here for awhile that had discovered the secretive powerful men, the silent men, the unbelievably wealthy men, who were planning on taking on out of here and leaving us all to our own devices? I forget She used to watch Ancient Aliens, I recall, and listen to Art Bell as a serious information program.
DeletePink Team at the Elephant Bar (to the best of my memory):
DeleteMLD (subsequently redubbed Melody by me)
jenny
Catherine
Trish
Teresita (aka Woman Catholic, aka Militia Etheridge)
Christians in Middle East "face extinction" because of jihad terror
ReplyDeleteThe mainstream media habitually runs interference for jihadists, obfuscating their identity and goals, and under-reporting the atrocities they commit. This article is a particularly egregious example. "Christians 'face extinction' amid sectarian terror, minister warns," by Matthew Holehouse for the Telegraph, November 14 (thanks to Anne Crockett):
Christianity is in danger of becoming extinct in its ancient homelands because of a rising tide of sectarian attacks, a senior minister will warn on Friday.
"Sectarian," eh? So some other sect is attacking Christianity? What sect could it be? Scientology? Eckankar? Followers of Bhagwan Shree Rajneesh?
Violence against Christian worshippers and other religious minorities by fanatics has become a “global crisis” and is the gravest challenge facing the world this century, Baroness Warsi will say.
"Fanatics," eh? PETA activists? Raw food devotees? Jogging enthusiasts?
“A mass exodus is taking place, on a Biblical scale.
An "exodus," you say? So the Zionists have something to do with this?
In some places, there is a real danger that Christianity will become extinct,” she will say at a speech at Georgetown University in Washington.
In the new year, Lady Warsi, the Minister for Faith who sits in the Cabinet, will host an international summit to draw up a plan to end the violence against Christians - particularly in the countries where the faith was born.
Writing for Telegraph.co.uk, Lady Warsi highlights the bombing of All Saints Church in Pakistan, killing 85 congregants, in September and the gun attack on a Coptic wedding party in Egypt as the latest outrages by militants who have turned “religion upon religion, sect upon sect”.
"Militants"? The Symbionese Liberation Army? The Weather Underground? The Tamil Tigers?
Moslems!
Deletehttp://www.jihadwatch.org/2013/11/christians-in-middle-east-face-extinction-because-of-jihad-terror.html
Like those wonderful folks in Iran.
DeleteChristians tolerated hardly any place but Israel.
And, mostly, in India -
India: Christian teacher accused of blasphemy and subsequently mutilated by Muslims is acquitted
Can he have his right hand back now? Unfortunately, the evil that jihadis do lives after them. "TJ Joseph, Christian teacher accused of blasphemy (and mutilated) is fully acquitted," by Nirmala Carvalho for Asia News, November 15:
Mumbai (AsiaNews) - TJ Joseph, a Christian teacher accused of blasphemy in 2010, following which a group of strangers cut off his right hand and part of the arm, has finally been acquitted. The court of Thodupuzha in Kerala today heard the appeal filed by the teacher and acquitted him of all charges. A ruling, Sajan George, president of the Global Council of Indian Christians (GCIC) told AsiaNews, "for which we must thank the Indian judicial system. The case of Professor Joseph was one of the darkest pages in Kerala's recent history."
It is March 2010, the teacher, a professor at Newman College, was accused of blasphemy by the Islamic fundamentalist group Popular Front of India (PFI). According to the extremists, he added offensive questions about Muhammad to an exam questionnaire. Under constant threats, the man apologized publicly for his "unintentional error".
A few months later, however , a group of strangers attacked him in Muvattupuzha (Ernakulam district), cutting off the hand and part of his right arm. TJ Joseph survived the attack, but in September the same year the school authorities fired him, without any possibility of a pension.
According to Sajan George, the most serious aspects of this episode "was the attitude of the police, who registered the complaint against him and also arrested him, and of the institution, which has suspended him from duty. Fortunately, the Mahatma Gandhi University, to which Newman College is affiliated, revoked the decision of the school authorities and have offered him his job back".
Whatever:
DeleteWait til you see their new Hyderabad Metro, below.
It rules the rails!
HMR project has been selected as one of the top 100 strategic global infrastructure projects to be showcased at the forthcoming Global Infrastructure Leadership Forum being held in New York during February–March, 2013.[8][9]
DeleteThe HMR project is considered to be the world’s largest project under public-private partnership[citation needed], with investments of over Rs 17,000 Crore
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Otis_Elevator_Company
ReplyDeleteThe Otis Elevator Company is the world's largest manufacturer of vertical transportation systems, principally focusing on elevators and escalators.[1] Founded in Yonkers, New York, United States, in 1853 by Elisha Otis, the company pioneered the development of the 'safety elevator', invented by Otis in 1852, which used a special mechanism to lock the elevator car in place should the hoisting ropes fail.
Moving the World:
Statistically, Otis is the world's most popular transportation company.[2] It is estimated that the equivalent of the world's population travel in Otis elevators, escalators and moving walkways every three days.
According to United Technologies, Otis elevators carry the equivalent of the world's population every nine days.[3]
Biggest Contracts:
In October 2013, Otis won its biggest ever contract,[13] it will supply 670 elevators and escalators to the Hyderabad Metro.[14]
Its 2nd biggest contract was in 2012 to supply 349 elevators for the Hangzhou metro.[15]
The Hyderabad Metro will put Japan to shame.
DeleteWith the added bonus excitement of a possible Pakistani Bomber incident.
Right after we got here, I got a job as the resident manager of a beachfront condo complex in the then fairly isolated Maalaea Beach outpost.
DeleteOne day while cleaning one of the elevators, it got stuck about 7 feet above the third floor, leaving about a foot wide opening between the floor of the elevator and the top of the opening on the third floor landing.
Not trusting that the emergency button would for sure work, or bring help anytime soon, and needing to get on with my rounds, I defied death, and slid through that one foot opening.
Had someone pushed a button and managed to unstick the elevator, there would have been two Dougs, upper, and lower.
"Peak Oil" was in 2005 with 84.5 million barrels a day, now it's 89.3 million barrels a day, and much of that increase attributed to good old American know-how revitalizing pumped-out wells from Pennsylvania to Texas (and California as soon as Governor Moonbeam sees the light). China can waste their resources and international good will planting the Commie flag on rocks off the coast of the Philippines or Japan, but we'll just quietly frack, and factories will go where the energy is.
DeleteGo ahead, sweets. You've got another year, or so, to run.
DeleteNanC used to count comments at the BC..
ReplyDeleteIn the interest of science I used to do the same. A physicist friend calculated that the comments given by desert rat in the course of a typical day created enough hot air to operate a wind turbine of sufficient size to light the usual 60 watt light bulb in a commode closet. Looked at another way, the same energy, hypothetically, would be created by 1000 hamsters turning a 6' diameter wheel at 1200 revolutions per minute. Unfortunately, so much heat was created by the friction of the wheel assembly that the cage litter suddenly exploded in a blinding flash of light, melting the poor hamsters into, for lack of a better comparison, large globs of Cracker Jacks with the distinct odor of caramelized rodent urine.
Rufus will chide you for your lack of imagination and General All Around Green awareness. (Four Star)
DeleteHow many commode closets could be lit by that hot air if enlightened management had replaced usual 60 watt light bulbs with LED's?
I, however, kneel in appreciation of your memory.
DeleteNanC had slipped my mind.
Even tho she purportedly chided my behavior.
Those Hypotheticals also lacked imagination:
DeleteMice, instead of Hamsters should have been used on 5 times as many wheels, allowing sufficient area to dissipate the heat properly, avoiding a meltdown.
Plus, female mice have EIGHT Tits!
Mices is nice!
How sexy is that?
One of the wonders of blogging is what one can learn on any topic. Mr. Edison would have been in awe. I bow in humility. We shall yet save the world through no fault of our own.
DeleteYou should consider that the best known hamster is the Syrian hamster, Mesocricetus auratus.
DeleteGiven that you are concerned about the Survival of Israel.
Syrians, not so much.
allenSat Nov 16, 08:05:00 AM EST
Delete"One of the wonders of blogging is what one can learn on any topic. Mr. Edison would have been in awe. I bow in humility. We shall yet save the world through no fault of our own."
Reflect on it in wonder:
Moving the World's population in Otis elevators, escalators and moving walkways every three days!
I'm verclempt, and when not verclempt, in awe.
allenSat Nov 16, 07:28:00 AM EST
DeleteWonderful, Allen.
That comment lit me up.
:):)
Forgot the
Deletebwabwabwabwahahahahaha
"1000 hamsters turning a 6' diameter wheel at 1200 revolutions per minute"
hohHoHOHHOHHohhoh
Howard Dean, he of the famous shoutout of all the states, says Obamacare is the disaster that the daddy can’t fix. “I wonder if he has the legal authority to [fix it], since this was a congressional bill that set this up,” he says, perhaps not having heard the news that this administration suspended the Constitution long ago.
ReplyDeletehttp://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/nov/14/pruden-so-whos-your-daddy-now/
I agree with Mr. Dean and disagree with Mr. Pruden. Members of the House should work through the weekend on a motion to the Federal Court, seeking a stay of presidential action on the bill until the Court rules on the constitutionality of such presumptuous executive authority.
Chuck Yeager broke the sound barrier in 1947.
ReplyDeleteBy 1967, all NFL teams had single goal post uprights.
Brilliance, insight, and progress marches on.
The progress of mankind in 20 years!
I liked the old wooden double posts better. Easier to bring down in a post game riot than the new steel singles.
DeleteWas good, now heap shit.
We did it for the children, some of whom were crushed by the fall of archaic wooden posts.
DeleteNews report charges U.S. with conducting illegal operations from German soil
ReplyDeletehttp://www.mcclatchydc.com/2013/11/15/208731/news-report-charges-us-with-conducting.html
The blush is off the rose. The champion of peace has feet of clay.
Can he be given a second Nobel?
DeleteMight serve as a booster shot for his ego, Amigo.
Delete"The resulting freefall in American popularity was tracked by a poll by national German public television station ARD. That poll showed that only 35 percent of Germans still see the United States as a good partner, down from 49 percent in July. The poll also found that 61 percent of Germans now see the United States as an untrustworthy partner and that 60 percent of Germans consider Snowden – who has been called a traitor by American officials – to be a hero. President Barack Obama’s star has fallen fast. In April 2010, 88 percent of Germans said they liked his politics; the new poll put that number at 43 percent."
DeleteNow, we're worried about our President's popularity in Germany? :)
DeleteGerman public opinion is the leading indicator of American thinking.
DeleteThey are 9 hours earlier over there in Hamburg.
I don't remember anyone sweating the Teutonic ponderings when the shrub was large, and in charge.
DeleteThey always thought shrub was a bastard. They are just learning now that Obama is too. All German/Americans look to Berlin for enlightenment.
DeleteWell, the less-than-ideal Obamacare rollout does not compare in size and scope to Bush's Hurricane Katrina, which was sent directly at the African-American neighborhoods of N.O, by HAARP.
DeleteRecycling in Vegas casinos -
ReplyDeletehttp://www.reviewjournal.com/news/las-vegas-resorts-whittle-away-waste
Bleach and a little repackaging, the condoms are good as new.
Deleteyuck
DeleteI thought that kind of item was free now anyway with OCare.
Massachusetts enrolled 123 customers in its first month.
ReplyDeleteIt looks like California enrolled 35,000.
California
Massachusetts enrolled 123 souls in the first month of Romneycare, that is.
DeleteOperative word is "souls". You have to sell your soul.
DeleteBtw, T, Governor Moonbeam, nor anyone else, is stopping them from fracking the Monterrey Shale. They've been fracking wells in it for years.
DeleteIt's just that the geology of the Monterrey is so tough that it's probably going to require oil prices well above $150.00/bbl, and probably closer to $200.00 to really make the mare run.
The Bakken is "plumbing." The Monterrey is "Adventure."
DeleteReally, really expensive "adventure."
America's two largest commands are headquartered in Germany. One is the Africa command. As some may have noticed Muslims have become very active in Africa. The Germans agreed to hosting the Africa Command because 16 African nations would not have it. According to DoD, Germany is the ideal location. Strategically, the German real estate is irreplaceable.
ReplyDeleteThe European Command is tasked with minding the Russians, among other things. Given the past and recent bellicose behaviors of the Russians, having the European Command close by in Germany since 1945 has been wise.
Apart from real estate, Germany has provided useful information.through its own sources.
Should the US make a good faith effort to stay on good terms with our European ally and the powerhouse of the EU? Seems like a good idea to me.
Yep, but the Germans have a history, also.
DeleteAnonymous Sat Nov 16, 09:58:00 AM EST
ReplyDeleteGerman public opinion is the leading indicator of American thinking.
They are 9 hours earlier over there in Hamburg.
...sorry to disagree, but I think it's the Real Housewives of Atlanta...
:)
DeleteYou're probably right.
By the way, the time difference is 6 hours.
ReplyDelete9 hours from Pacific Standard to Hamburg.
DeleteI know that one.
Subtract 3 from 8:44 - it's 5:44 in Hamburg now.
ReplyDeleteWatching Fox.
ReplyDeleteThere might be some real money in phony ObamaCare websites, Quirk.
Couple hundred million possible suckers out there.
Use your imagination.
You'll be able to pay your own lawyer.
Delete"Quirk's Cut Rate ObamaCare - Why Pay More?"
DeleteBubba's Fish Tackle Shop and Cancer Clinic.
DeleteTeresita's Tall Tales & Tattoos
Delete(it's a book shop that specializes in fiction, with a tattoo parlor on the side, get it?)
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