“Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we.” - George W. Bush

All The Best


I want to thank everyone who participated in the Elephant Bar over the past twelve years. We had millions of visitors from all around the World and you were part of it. Over the past dozen years, two or three times a night, I would open my laptop and some of you were always there. I will miss that.

My plans are to continue my work with technology and architecture. You know my interests and thoughts.

At times, things would get a little rough in the EB. To those of you that I may have offended over the years, I apologize. From all of you, I learned and grew.

An elephant never forgets.
Be well.

Deuce, 21 June 2018

Tuesday, November 12, 2013

McCain sez people are begging him to run for President again...honest!

From the Arizona Republic:

"Particularly since the shutdown, I've had a spate of e-mails and letters and phone calls saying, 'Run for president again,'" McCain told The Arizona Republic. "As you know, I’m seriously thinking about running for re-election to the Senate. But I think, in the words of the late Morris K. Udall, as far as my presidential ambitions are concerned, 'The people have spoken — the bastards.'"

In his book Too Funny To Be President, Udall, D-Ariz., attributed the quote to California Democrat Dick Tuck. Udall unsuccessfully sought the 1976 Democratic nomination for president.

While even McCain agrees that another presidential candidacy seems far-fetched, Bruce Merrill, a veteran Arizona political scientist and pollster, told The Republic he has fielded multiple calls from out-of-state reporters this year investigating the possibility. McCain was critical of the GOP strategy to try to defund President Barack Obama’s health-care law, resulting in a partial government shutdown. McCain emerged with better national poll numbers than others associated with the crisis, including "tea party"-style U.S. Sen. Ted Cruz, R-Texas.

"I can assure you, I don’t see it," said McCain, who will turn 80 in 2016. "It’s not on my radar."


  1. I really didn't think he read my email.
    So glad he took the time.


    They didn't like them anyways, why would they want to keep them?

    "Feinstein joins push to keep health plans..."

    GD Joo Republican.

    1. "Jones said even though both insurance companies have extended their existing coverage, policyholders who are eligible for federal premium subsidies through Covered California will likely want to choose new policies by Dec. 15 so they can begin receiving the subsidies starting Jan. 1."


      All the Illegals living in substandard squalor will be able to buy another larger flatscreen thanks to those subsidies.

  3. allen

    Tue Nov 12, 06:21:00 PM EST

    There must be some chicken pluckers out there somewhere.

    Americans’ Participation in Labor Force Hits 35-Year Low


    Bush's Fault.

    1. Even all the stimulation of Obamacare and other new Democrat taxes, Billions of Dollars printed for Wall Street each month, thousands of paid Obamacare Lying Crook Navigators, and etc cannot replace the jobs lost on account of Bush.

    2. .

      You'll be voting for Elizabeth Warren in 2016 then, Doug?

      I'll meet you at the 'Occupy' rally with my Guy Fawkes mask. (I think we probably should wait for the rally in Lake Tahoe or Palm Springs though.)


    3. I'm pressing for 3rd term for Obama.

      Hoping to get back into an era of good feelings w/Rufus.

    4. Lake Tahoe, before May, it's cold up there, Q.
      Palm Springs is, well, Palm Springs.

    5. See Previous thread for updates on Palm Springs and Maui Microclimates.

    6. Doug,

      "Feinstein joins push to keep health plans..."

      GD Joo Republican

      Don't overlook Illuminati and Masons, all mind controlled by the Grand Elder of Zion..

    7. It seems like only yesterday that desert rat was daily reminding us of the occult practices of the Skull and Bones society. As I recall, they ruled the world.

    8. If the Bones and Masons get into it, we're doomed.

    9. The Great Thing about Tahoe Truckee is it's dry air and lots of Sun in winter.
      Summers, sublime.
      Unless you're a big gardener and don't like June and August freezes.

    10. Sadly, my best friend that I used to build houses with lost it all in a golf course project in cahoots with some bigwig Reno Casino Guy.

      Beautiful home repoed last year.
      ...plus 5-6 million.
      Plus friends he talked into investing.

      ...now living in Reno.
      Only Farmer Fudd might like that option.

  4. It's not only France that has rebelled against the outlined deal in Geneva. Israel is protesting vocally and publicly; America's Gulf Arab allies are protesting less publicly, but nearly equally vocally.

    On "Meet the Press" on Sunday, Kerry insisted that there was "zero gap" between the United States and its regional allies. Then he immediately got on a plane to the United Arab Emirates on Sunday, presumably to try to upgrade his Sunday talk-show words into something closer to reality.

    Just in case, though, the UAE will also be buying $4 billion worth of U.S. munitions -- its own private line of defense against a threatening Iran and the turmoil that will ensue if America's deal-at-all-costs mentality compels Israel to strike Iran on its own. As of today, you have to guess that it's that latter scenario that looks like the most likely outcome of American over-eagerness.

    - Frum

    1. Poor Mr. Kerry so desperately wants a piece of paper to waive around for the cameras.

    2. With that hangdog looking face, and desperate voice profile, he fits the part perfectly.

      Obama's a Workaholic Genius.

    3. The few remaining Joos in France are probly behind this.
      Cheese Eating Joos.

  5. .

    ...the turmoil that will ensue if America's deal-at-all-costs mentality compels Israel to strike Iran on its own.


    Don't see it happening regardless of what the US does (or doesn't do).

    But the guy is a political analyst so he must know what he is talking about. Right?


    1. You think an Iranian A-Bomb is honkey dorey?

      (ten bonus points for archaic reference)

    2. Followed by Saudis, et-al.

    3. The Saudi already have 'em, Doug, they store them in Pakistan.

    4. Whether the Iranians nuke up, or not ...

      Not worth one US soldier going into the sand box.
      The military is incaable of achieving victory in a timely manner.

      It would be horrendous for US to move on Iran.

      MAD works. It has for 60 plus years.
      Those Iranians are not crazy, they will not commit suicide.
      No more than the Russians, Chinese, Indians, Pakistani, South Africans, French, Turks, etc that have a nuclear strike capability.

    5. Have or, in the case of South Africa ... had ....

      Turkey, it has forty 'US' warheads, in Turkey.

    6. Sure, and Turkey can just borrow one of those motherfuckers any time she gets her feathers ruffled.

    7. Not a lot there to stop them, in the middle of Turkey.

      As of October, the Turkish Armed Forces comprised nearly 600,000 soldiers, of whom 208,923 are professional and 379,352 are conscripts, according to the Army’s website.
      / / / / / / /

      Belgium or Iran, Where’s The Nuclear Threat? Europe’s Five “Undeclared Nuclear Weapons States”
      Are Turkey, Germany, Belgium, The Netherlands and Italy Nuclear Powers?

      ccording to a recent report, former NATO Secretary-General George Robertson confirmed that Turkey possesses 40-90 “Made in America” nuclear weapons at the Incirlik military base.(en.trend.az/)

      Does this mean that Turkey is a nuclear power?

      y the recognised definition, these five countries are “undeclared nuclear weapons states”.

      The stockpiling and deployment of tactical B61 in these five “non-nuclear states” are intended for targets in the Middle East. Moreover, in accordance with “NATO strike plans”, these thermonuclear B61 bunker buster bombs (stockpiled by the “non-nuclear States”) could be launched “against targets in Russia or countries in the Middle East such as Syria and Iran” ( quoted in National Resources Defense Council, Nuclear Weapons in Europe , February 2005)

      Does this mean that Iran or Russia, which are potential targets of a nuclear attack originating from one or other of these five so-called non-nuclear states should contemplate defensive preemptive nuclear attacks against Germany, Italy, Belgium, the Netherlands and Turkey? The answer is no, by any stretch of the imagination.

      While these “undeclared nuclear states” casually accuse Tehran of developing nuclear weapons, without documentary evidence, they themselves have capabilities of delivering nuclear warheads, which are targeted at Iran. To say that this is a clear case of “double standards” by the IAEA and the “international community” is a understatement.

      Incirlik has 5,000 US Air Force personnel.

    8. The Turks have, let's see, over a 100 to 1 advantage.
      Yep, if they wanted those 40 - 90 warheads, they would have them.

    9. Those are suicide capable Muslims were talking about, in Turkey, you know.

    10. What if the Muzzies become convinced somebody like Obama would not press the Nuclear Button?

    11. If Turkey seized the nukes, they would be instantly excommunicated by NATO, and considered a rogue nuclear nation. Russia and the rest of NATO would get in cahoots and take out Turkey with glee, with particular emphasis on whatever air assets Turkey had lined up to mount their new acquisitions. It would be called the Obama Doctrine.

    12. "It would be horrendous for US to move on Iran."

      It would be more horrendous for US to nuke them.

      ...at least for Iranians.

    13. The US is not going to nuke anyone, Doug.

      We did not nuke a mountain devoid of civilian life, in Afghanistan.
      Shit, we did not even deploy a battalion of Rangers.
      Nuking Iran, there is not even a basis for conversation.

      There is no military option, to put on the table.
      That is the reality of the situation.

    14. Doesn't that defeat your whole MAD argument?

      I've been a MAD man since way back, but...

    15. "We did not nuke a mountain devoid of civilian life, in Afghanistan"


      We figured the Regular Army needed some extended exercise dealing with civilians.

    16. "MAD works. It has for 60 plus years.
      Those Iranians are not crazy, they will not commit suicide."

      No Nuke Threat, no suicide.

      Good Times.

    17. Turn off the utilities. Crush the Republican Guard.

      2-3 days without water would be devastating, for instance.

      Without the Republican Guard, the mullahs are dead men.

      To destroy the nuke problem does not require a direct attack on the hardened facilities.

      Unless the Saudis come on board, logistically the Jews are doing a fools errand.

    18. Wo Hoo, another encounter with the Republican Guard.

      We're good at that.

      Hell, they're Republicans.

    19. Doug, Wo Hoo, another encounter with the Republican Guard.

      Yes, and they are always "elite" comparable to SS divisions.

      There life expectancy when they meet truly elite forces is measured in minutes -- unless they can first surrender to media camera crews.

    20. Elite, how quickly I forgot.

      The good old days when we buried them and rolled.

      ...until we stopped.

  6. We live in oxymoronic times. Everyone recognizes the need for a streamlined, more efficient Pentagon.

    Yet Congress won't let the Department of Defense close another base or increase the copayments military families make for their very generous health insurance plans. Continuing resolutions and sequestration prevent weapons makers from doing a deal with the Pentagon that sticks.


    I believe the president has correctly identified the three most important missions for America’s armed forces in today’s world and the years ahead:

    – Keeping the peace among the great powers, specifically by backing up the Asia-Pacific “rebalancing” policy announced halfway through his first term

    – Preventing, where possible, the proliferation of weapons of mass destruction, most importantly nuclear weapons

    - Continuing to check al Qaeda and other terrorist groups throughout the broader Middle East, including parts of North Africa and South Asia.

    Less Money

    1. Isaac Asimov described Minsky as one of only two people he would admit were more intelligent than he was, the other being Carl Sagan.[21]

      3D profile of a coin (partial) measured with a modern confocal white light microscope.
      Minsky's inventions include the first head-mounted graphical display (1963) and the confocal microscope[4][22]
      (1957, a predecessor to today's widely used confocal laser scanning microscope).

      He developed, with Seymour Papert, the first Logo "turtle". Minsky also built, in 1951, the first randomly wired neural network learning machine, SNARC.

    2. Doug,

      Re: Minsky, Asimov, and Sagan

      ...just flukes of nature...

    3. God's Mutations.

      Mutants, in short.

  7. On this day in 2001, an American Airlines flight crashed close to JFK Airport in New York, killing 265 people.

    1. That was the second spookiest event in my life.

      Even Long Island didn't deserve that.

    2. That and 9-11 have been forgotten by a majority of NY Resident Democrats.

    3. What everyone has forgotten was the Americathrax perp. "This is next" etc.

    4. That Doctor that had sent time in Rhodesia, tried to write a book, where the character staged an anthrax attack, I recall him getting a "Pay Day" from Uncle Sam.
      Defamation or some such deal.

      In August 2002, Attorney General John Ashcroft labeled Steven Hatfill a "person of interest" in a press conference, no charges were brought against him.
      Hatfill, a virologist, vehemently denied he had anything to do with the anthrax (bacteria) mailings and sued the FBI, the Justice Department, John Ashcroft, Alberto Gonzales, and others for violating his constitutional rights and for violating the Privacy Act.
      On June 27, 2008, the Department of Justice announced it would settle Hatfill's case for $5.8 million

    5. The Amerithrax Task Force—which consisted of roughly 25 to 30 full-time investigators from the FBI, the U.S. Postal Inspection Service, and other law enforcement agencies, as well as federal prosecutors from the District of Columbia and the Justice Department’s Counterterrorism Section—expended hundreds of thousands of investigator work hours on this case.

      Their efforts involved more than 10,000 witness interviews on six different continents, the execution of 80 searches, and the recovery of more than 6,000 items of potential evidence during the course of the investigation.

      The case involved the issuance of more than 5,750 grand jury subpoenas and the collection of 5,730 environmental samples from 60 site locations. In addition, new scientific methods were developed that ultimately led to the break in the case—methods that could have a far-reaching impact on future investigations.

      And a $5.8 million dollar settlement with the "Person of Interest".

  8. Why would the additional words "the brother of Jesus" appear on this box, rather than just the more normal "James, the son of ......so and so"?

    Probably for the same reason "stigmata" appears on the palms and not the wrist where the Romans really put the nails...it's a fraud.

    1. That's cool: You could twiddle your fingers til death did you part.

      ...and not worry about a rip-out followed by a sudden drop.

    2. Agreed.

      rathole is dumber than a stump and Biblically illiterate to boot, a mistake of nature and culture.

    3. You could flip the Romans the bird too, what more can they to you now?

    4. If you added up all the wood from the "True Ossuaries of James Brother of Jesus" and the "True Splinters of the Holy Cross" and the "True Flowerboxes of the Blessed Virgin Mary" you would have sufficient lumber to build Noah's Ark.

    5. Man, I sure hope my ancestors thought to do that!

    6. (flippin the Bird, that is)

    7. We must be careful here - we are perilously close to a opening for rathole to get to Israel as a topic for the thread.

      Quirk used to sell pieces of The True Cross in Detroit in the old days. Went broke, cold broke. Perhaps he should have added ossuaries and flowerboxes to his merchandise.

    8. Fudd Busters InternationalTue Nov 12, 09:25:00 PM EST

      Ad hominem arguments are a preferred tool for Farmer Fudd when he ran out of real arguments, or was unable to understand anyone else's opinion in the first place.

      It's so much easier for Farmer Fudd to just attack another person instead of attacking the arguments.
      Especially when the other person, no matter which contributor it is, is usually right.


    9. Fudd Busters International is a "fuckin' fascist misogynist racist piece of excrement" that projects his personality over to others. He is also a serial liar, misrepresenter, self confessed criminal and self proclaimed professional asshole who got kicked off the Directorate of this sad place by Deuce for issuing death threats, is obsessed with Israel and has proclaimed the moslems to all be "individualists".

      The list of folks who think him crazy is long and growing, too long to list here.

      I'm gonna drive in to ther CdA Casino and swipe my card and have some free coffee and see what the evening brings my way.

      Get some rest, Whackadoodle.


    10. Why would Anonymous care so much about the Farmer Fudd, unless he thought he fit the Farmer Fudd profile, himself?

    11. “Don't look to the approval of others for your mental stability”

    12. Ossuaries were stone receptacles. Since James was the head of the true Christian sect, having its headquarters in Jerusalem, his name on a stone box is little different than Michelangelo's commemorative Papal crypts, albeit far, far cruder.

    13. Karl Lagerfeld Tue Nov 12, 09:52:00 PM EST
      “Don't look to the approval of others for your mental stability”

      By that point you are already lost. Do look for the meds.

  9. Germany: Nuclear Weapons Producer

    Among the five “undeclared nuclear states”, “Germany remains the most heavily nuclearized country with three nuclear bases (two of which are fully operational) and may store as many as 150 [B61 bunker buster ] bombs” (Ibid). In accordance with “NATO strike plans” (mentioned above) these tactical nuclear weapons are also targeted at the Middle East.

    While Germany is not categorized officially as a nuclear power, it produces nuclear warheads for the French Navy. It stockpiles nuclear warheads (made in America) and it has the capabilities of delivering nuclear weapons. Moreover, The European Aeronautic Defense and Space Company – EADS , a Franco-German-Spanish joint venture, controlled by Deutsche Aerospace and the powerful Daimler Group is Europe’s second largest military producer, supplying .France’s M51 nuclear missile.

    Germany imports and deploys nuclear weapons from the US. It also produces nuclear warheads which are exported to France. Yet it is classified as a non-nuclear state.


    1. Japan was a nuclear state too (briefly) when the battleships did their port visits in the 1980s, though I can neither confirm nor deny this was true. But the flotilla of 200 protest boats as they came into Sasebo knew the score.

    2. We figure we could claim they're on US controlled sanctuaries, and thus not German.

    3. Well Ed is saying Germany (or Turkey) can reach out and touch them any time. Because Marine Detachments are just such pushovers.

    4. No, Doug, Germany is not a US controlled sanctuary.

      The European Aeronautic Defense and Space Company – EADS , a Franco-German-Spanish joint venture, controlled by Deutsche Aerospace and the powerful Daimler Group is Europe’s second largest military producer, supplying .France’s M51 nuclear missile.

      Duetsche Aerospace, the Daimler Group, they are German, through and through.

    5. Just overwhelm them, Ms T.
      They are on a Turkish Air Base.
      In the middle of Turkey.
      With thousands of US dependents as hostages.
      The Marines would lose. Like the Texicans at the Alamo.

      In Germany, there is no US military supervision of the French/German process.
      That is why the US tapped Merkel's cell phone.

    6. How do you know that nuclear weapons are in Turkey? How did you come to know how many are housed there? Do you think it possible that nuclear weapons, if any, might have been moved south into a more politically stable environment?

    7. Could have been moved, true enough.
      Probably not, though.

      Last updated: July, 2013


      As part of NATO's nuclear umbrella, Turkey continues to host approximately 60 to 70 U.S. tactical nuclear weapons on its territory at Incirlik Air Base. [5]

      While there was some speculation in the Turkish press regarding possible conflict between Turkey's leaders and the United States should President Obama's commitment to "seek the peace and security of a world without nuclear weapons" lead to the near-term withdrawal of U.S. nuclear weapons from Turkey, both the 2010 U.S. Nuclear Posture Review and the 2010 NATO Strategic Concept postponed a decision concerning the future of tactical nuclear weapons in Europe. [6]

      While the Cold War-era B61 bombs serve little strategic purpose, they provide tangible evidence of a continued American commitment to Turkish security.

      This material is produced independently for NTI by the James Martin Center for Nonproliferation Studies at the Monterey Institute of International Studies


      The Nuclear Threat Initiative (NTI) is a nonprofit, nonpartisan organization with a mission to strengthen global security by reducing the risk of use and preventing the spread of nuclear, biological, and chemical weapons and to work to build the trust, transparency, and security that are preconditions to the ultimate fulfillment of the Non-Proliferation Treaty’s goals and ambitions.

    8. The odds of moving 40 to 70 nuclear weapons off of a Turkish Air base, without the Turks knowing about it ...

      Unlikely, at best.
      The odds of keeping it a secret if the Turks knew the warheads had been removed, even less likely..

    9. The Turks have F16s ready and able to deliver those B61s

    10. The B61 is a variable yield bomb (0.3 to 340 kiloton yield in various versions and settings) designed for carriage by high-speed aircraft. It has a streamlined casing capable of withstanding supersonic flight speeds. The weapon is 11 ft 8 in (3.58 m) long, with a diameter of about 13 in (33 cm). Basic weight is about 700 lb (320 kg), although the weights of individual weapons may vary depending on version and fuze/retardation configuration.

    11. Turkey is the only Muslim country internationally recognized for producing Western class engineers. They may be capable of designing workable triggers.

      There was a time when I would have bet on the US having considered fail safe scenarios. Now, not so much. For example,we moved dependents out of Turkey prior to the invasion of Iraq. Since then, we have moved them back. American children would make excellent hostages.

  10. Crude oil lost 2.2%, to $93.04 a barrel, settling at the lowest level in five months amid fears of increasing domestic supplies ...

    Be afraid. Be very afraid.

  11. Justin at Generals JoesTue Nov 12, 09:15:00 PM EST

    I think it's quite possible that 1984 was the greatest year human existence has ever known.
    Ghostbusters, Beverly Hills Cop, The Terminator, and Karate Kid all hit theaters...
    Transformers was released by Hasbro in the United States.

    And the entire mythology of G.I. Joe: A Real American Hero was more or less defined in this one year of release.

    1984 featured character stalwarts like Duke, Roadblock, The Baroness, Storm Shadow, Firefly, and Zartan, and that's just the tip of the iceberg!

    Characters important enough to build an entire Hollywood franchise around.
    Cobra especially really started developing their identity in this year, breaking out into some more unique and ...
    outlandish characters, each with very nicely defined personalities thanks to Larry Hama's comic book work.

    Even the most minor characters in this year like Recondo, Wild Weasel, or Cutter have developed immense fan following and exude personality.

    That's partly why I was so fascinated to see what Codename: Iowa would do with their third series of minimalist prints.
    The first two years in G.I. Joe history are fantastic, don't get me wrong, but I can see how it would be fairly simple to boil those down to basic themes running throughout a series of great minimalist posters.
    1984? That seemed like a whole different animal.


    1. Bill S.: "The Foole doth thinke he is wise, but the wiseman knowes himselfe to be a Foole."

    2. All the world's a stage, and all the men and women merely players:
      they have their exits and their entrances;
      and one man in his time plays many parts, his acts being seven ages.

  12. Brutal New Poll Has Obama's Approval Rating Down To 39%

    1. Rasmussen Reports - Approve 45 / Disapprove 54

    2. Quinnipiac a poll of 2,545 registered voters, Rasmussen a poll of 1,500 likely voters

    3. Just wait until the Employer Mandate kicks in for the ACA. 90 million insured Americans thrown out on their ass. Donks'll be real popular after that.

    4. Just give subsidies to everybody.

    5. Single payer, when or if the ACA fails.

      If the private insurance market are unable to cope, the Federals will have to step up.

      Medicare for EVERYONE, not just Senior residents of the Republic.

    6. .

      More likely, Medicaid for everyone.


  13. "Venezuelan President Maduro has declared war on 'bourgeois parasites' by taking over Daka, an electronics retailer similar to Best Buy. USA Today reports, 'National guardsmen, some of whom had assault rifles, were positioned around outlets of [Daka] ... Maduro has ordered to lower prices or face prosecution. Thousands of people lined up at the Daka stores hoping for a bargain after the government forced the companies to charge "fair" prices. "I want a Sony plasma television for the house," said Amanda Lisboa, 34, a business administrator who waited seven hours outside a Caracas store ... "It's going to be so cheap!" "This is for the good of the nation," Maduro said, referring to the military's occupation of Daka. "Leave nothing on the shelves, nothing in the warehouses Let nothing remain in stock!" Maduro said his seizures are the 'tip of the iceberg' and that other stores would be next if they did not comply with his orders.'"

    1. I saw this a few days ago, but ...

      Once the warehouses are empty, they will stay empty.
      Once the shelves are cleared, they will not be restocked.

      Maduro, that's Hugo's replacement, is not a real worldly fellow, is he?

      Wonder how he got to where he is, and still not be able to see the writing on the wall.

    2. Back when I was a kid, service in Venezuela was good duty for Standard Oil workers.

      Times change.

    3. They should have audible books of the writings on the walls for folks like Maduro and me.

    4. And big print pop up books for Rufie, of course.

  14. Kenneth Lim of the philanthropic Ramon Aboitiz Foundation, which was providing toiletries, sardines, rice, noodles, milk and sugar to roughly 2,000 families across north Cebu on Tuesday alone, said the aid task was formidable.

    "We've been driving through the north of the island all morning, handing out these bags," he explained. "We can't get everywhere, but it's obvious the people are desperate."

    As night falls on the island and the roads become slick with a new rain that many fear is yet another storm looming, families wait out the long evening with candles and their dwindling supplies. In the shadows, you can just about make out lone villagers traipsing along with water containers, and the children still standing with their palms out, begging in the dark.

  15. The United States would control the nukes in Turkey. The United States would control the firing mechanisms.

    1. Silly boy, if the Turks wanted to, they'd build their own triggers.
      Or hack the ones that are stored with the B61s.
      It is 20th century technology.
      First designed in 1963.
      Last updated in 1997.

      They are designed to go off, not designed to not go off.
      In combat conditions.

      Your understanding of things military, is limited, lacking, or you are just lazy.
      Unwilling to research.
      Unwilling o read

    2. o think that the Iranians could build and deliver an entire nuclear weapon ...
      but that the Turks could not build or hack a trigger ...

      Beyond comprehension.

      The Turks can build a Main Battle Tank, the Iranians cannot.

  16. Sounds like that Rat fellow is full of shit again, then.

    1. He is indeed full of shit.

      Now he has the Turks manufacturing the firing mechanisms themselves.



    2. “Think before you speak. Read before you think.”

    3. Farmer Fudd "knows" the Iranians can build a nuke and put it on a missile, deliver it around the world ...

      But the Turks, they cannot master building just the trigger.

      That is really just, in a word ... Comical

    4. If you had a brain ...
      You could be dangerous ...
      To yourself.

    5. To disrespect the Turks, so ...
      While elevating the Iranians.

      Just not "Real World", Fudd.

      Your whole Sky is Falling because of the Iranian threat, just falls apart, if the Turks cannot build a trigger for a B61.

      Turkey a much more technologically advanced country that Iran.
      Many more US trained engineers, in Turkey than in Iran.
      More NATO trained technicians in Turkey, than Iran.

      You are existing in a fantasy world, Fudd.

    6. The Turks have a very competent military with a Westernized officer corps.I expect to hear any day that they have reached out and touched the Kurdish-Syrian "rebels" that have captured key points along Turkey's border.

      I still believe the Turks remain upset by Obama's holding action over Syria. Their plan, I think, was to take and hold troublesome areas in northern Syria during the chaos caused by American intervention. Syria has been a thorn in Turkey's side for years, patronizing Kurdish Communists and destabilizing the entire region. Finally, Turkey has a growing political movement that is not being checked by the central government: a neo-Ottoman Empire cohort...

  17. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=999RqGZatPs

  18. Sounds like an extended melodic metaphor for Judgement Day Comin' To Rat Boy, to me.

    Nice tune. Like the sounds of it.

    1. Quirk got arrested once at Rose's for soliciting the bar maid, Miss Quickly. Umatilla bailed him out -


    2. Rampant disrespect for everyone, that is the Way of the Fudd.

      Drunks, whores, sluts, that is how Farmer Fudd speaks of women and men.
      Lacking respect for himself, he cannot fathom respecting anyone else.

      Great female actresses, Jean Stapleton, and Anne Bancroft ...
      Described as nothing but sluts and drunks, in Fudd World of Misogynist Diversion

    3. The song is non-partisan, just something used to celebrate the building of a Colt revolver.
      "Mr. Lincoln may have made all men free, but Mr. Colt made all men equal."

    4. Turnbull Arms hand builds excellent and totally unaffordable replicas of famous firearms. The company builds high quality firearms of all types.

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    6. bettyd19542 months agoin reply to 230ct4004bc

      "I tell you what I'm going to do.. This song means a lot to you and the woman you loved and so many memories.. This song is now dedicated to you and you're true love..

      If you'd be so kindly as to give me your name along with Dolores, I will put it in the description part of Marty Robbins box right below this video Bless you Betty."


      230ct4004bc2 months agoin reply to bettyd1954


      "Thank you very much, it does indeed bring memories of Dolores to my mind, We were sweethearts starting at age 4 and 5 and it lasted a life time.

      And it will for eternity.

      55 years and never did we have an argument.

      We valued our love over anything the world had to offer."


      Sounds like a bit of a stretch to me...

      But what do I know?
      I was at 46 years and not counting.

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    1. Ok, ok, I'll (try to) use the preview button.

  20. If everything goes to plan, Turkey will receive the United States’ newest nuclear weapon in 2019. Turkey currently hosts between 60 and 70 B61 gravity bombs at Incirlik air force base. During the Cold War, Turkish aircraft were on full nuclear alert status – meaning that Turkish aircraft were loaded with nuclear weapons and ready to take to the air in minutes, should NATO give the order. Now Turkish F-16 are only nuclear certified and would have to fly to Incirlik and pick up the bombs.


    1. I know what!

      The Turk will attack Incirlik Air Base to try and steal the nukes,putting themselves at War with the United States, and NATO, too.


    2. 2019:

      That's for my Grand-kids to worry about.

      1999 here, baby.

  21. More ObamaCare crash and burn coming your way --

    >>>On December 1 you will hear strident HHS appointees insisting that the “glitches” are gone and the system is “fixed.” Remember what they told you before and immediately after launch; don’t fall for the new talking points. Even allowing for continuing refusals by HHS to release information about the failures of HealthCare.gov, it will only be a short time before HHS will have to start disclosing repeated thefts of healthcare.gov data.

    Senator Barbara Mikulski has rightly noted “there’s been a crisis of confidence created in the dysfunctional nature of the website.” Public confidence in HealthCare.Gov is so low that the site will not be able to survive the added pressure caused by inevitable security breaches. Shortly after the predetermined HHS announcement that HealthCare.gov has been “fixed,” that assessment will become a Jimmy Kimmel punch line.

    As this debacle extends, concern about the electoral implications of the failure of HealthCare.gov will force President Obama to ignore new promises of yet another “fix” and to scrap this website that has been tainted by incompetence, deceptive propaganda, and disregard for our privacy. You can be sure you will hear him and his appointees reminding us of that toll-free number again and again.

    Michael Astrue served as HHS general counsel (1989-92) and commissioner of Social Security (2007-13).<<<

    Why the President Will Euthanize HealthCare.gov in 2014
    8:10 AM, NOV 12, 2013 • BY MICHAEL ASTRUE


    1. Barbara Mikulski is nothing but a (very attractive) RinoCrat.

      ...or a talking Hippo.

  22. Normal Americans just can't get into the mullahs' ancient theological mindset, because Christianity and Judaism left all that behind many centuries ago, after the great religious wars of European history. But radical Islam has revived Allah-knows-all indoctrination in Iran and Arabia. Westerners provide plenty of suckers for those absolutist cults.

    Cult indoctrination is incredibly powerful. On November 18, 1978, more than 900 people committed mass suicide in Guyana on the direct orders of Jim Jones, a San Francisco cult leader. Those were pretty normal people before they joined the suicide cult. This is also how the Japanese Emperor cult was able to convince hundreds of young Japanes pilots to commit suicide by flying their planes into American aircraft carriers in World War II. Cults are dangerous. The mullahs in Iran have now controlled the schools and mass media in Iran for almost forty years. They are running a war-mongering suicide cult over there, but they have more than Jim Jones' 900 Americans drinking the kool-aid. They have hundreds of thousands of potential martyrs. In their war with Saddam Hussein the mullahs sent regiments of teenage boys on motorcycles into Saddam's minefields to martyr themselves in the name of Allah. Those kids wore green plastic signs around their necks, with the Arab slogan, "Key to Paradise."

    The mullahs of Iran are today's Divine Emperor cult from World War II. Warmaking cults have existed throughout human history. They are not unusual. The Aztecs of pre-Columbian Mexico were a war-making cult that captured members of neighboring tribes to sacrifice atop their pyramids. The Yanamamo of Chile and Peru have been studied for decades by Harvard anthropologists. They are also a fierce, warmaking cult. The inner core of Hitler's Nazis were a cult, sworn to commit suicide to protect Der Fuehrer. The Japanese Aleph Cult is listed as a terrorist gang today, because in 1995 they carried out a Sarin gas attack in the Tokyo subway. Warmaking suicide cults are not unusual. The 9/11/01 Wahhabi terrorists all belonged to one of those cults. They killed 3,000 innocent people.

    With nuclear weapons, the mullah cult could now kill many more people....

    November 13, 2013
    Dangerous Times: Obama and the Crisis of Evil
    By James Lewis


  23. Sudan: UN humanitarian chief says polio vaccination blocked
    Ging appears to blame the block on the tensions between Muslim Sudan and Christian South Sudan, but South Kordofan and Blue Nile are both in Sudan, not South Sudan. The block more likely has to do with Muslim clerics saying that the vaccine is un-Islamic. There is a polio outbreak in Syria because Pakistani jihadis are bringing the virus from home. A Pakistani Muslim cleric has said that polio vaccinations are un-Islamic. And the Taliban has for some time been murdering people who were administering the polio vaccine in Pakistan. And it isn't just Pakistan: last February in Nigeria, a Muslim cleric was arrested for playing a role in sparking the murders of polio workers. Could it be that the same nonsense about the vaccine that afflicts Nigeria, Pakistan and Syria is now being preached in Sudan?

    "Sudan polio vaccination blocked, says UN's John Ging," from the BBC, November 12 (thanks to Ales):

    Efforts to vaccinate 165,000 children against polio in Sudan have been blocked by the government and rebels, the UN humanitarian chief says.
    John Ging said the two sides should stop "filibustering" and give health workers access to children in the South Kordofan and Blue Nile states.

    The government and rebels had ignored a Security Council resolution to give health workers access, he said.

    The UN fears that conflict in the two states could lead to a polio outbreak.

    According to the UN World Health Organization, Sudan has been polio-free for more than two years.

    South Kordofan and Blue Nile border South Sudan, which seceded from Sudan in 2011 after a peace deal to end years of civil war.

    'Finger pointing'

    The UN held talks with the government and Sudan People's Liberation Movement-North (SPLM-N) to carry out vaccinations from 5 November to 12 November but "unfortunately we have been filibustered with process and discussions and disputes which have amounted to no access", Mr Ging told journalists, after briefing the Security Council.

    It should use its "significant authority" to force the government and SPLM-N to let health workers in, he said.

    China's UN ambassador Liu Jieyi, who is the current president of the UN Security Council, said the lack of access was "disturbing".

    However, he did not refer to any action that the Security Council intended to take against the government and SPLM-N, the Associated Press news agency reports.

    Mr Ging said the UN had already been forced to cut back on plans to send food and other relief to South Kordofan and Blue Nile, and had decided to focus on the vaccination drive....

    1. citycat | November 13, 2013 3:03 AM | Reply
      "the lack of access is disturbing"- indeed.

      But nothing, it seems, is disturbing enough to penetrate the mind of that one who refuses to consider the fact that so many are revealing Islam to be the Beast that it is. On a survival level only, Islam does seem. One is not allowed to ascend even to a sexual freedom. All must go to keep the Vampire alive,

      Including even the sexual drive.

      The Hindus would say that Islam is trapped between the first(survival) chakra and the second(second chakra)
      Islam does not seem like a religion to me. There does not seem to be in Islam anything that can be regarded as godly in practice, only an inconceivable Allah who seems like the most cruel and antinatural beings ever to be found in Literature.

    2. :):):)

      City cat is a woman after my own mind. Nice way of putting it. And I like her mention of Literature. She is beginning to see that many of these conflicts are literary affairs, and not disputes about trade routes.

      I imagine she would place rat right there 'twixt one and two, right along side his blessed muslims, those "individualists"..


    3. (getting in my often deleted stuff from Jihad Watch while Miss T is nominally at least in control here)

    4. There's a lot of other good stuff in JihadWatch today, including an article about the last Jew in Afghanistan.

      Here: http://www.jihadwatch.org/

      And this -

      Russia negotiates its biggest arms deal with Egypt since Cold War after Obama cuts aid

      Nov 12, 2013 06:16 pm | Robert

      "They are trying to send the U.S. a strong message by approaching Russia the way they are, which is 'unless you stop linking military aid with political issues, we’re going to look elsewhere.'" Message received -- except by Obama, who with his unstinting and uncritical support for the Muslim Brotherhood...

  24. ...great graphics...a picture is worth a thousand words...

  25. That jacket is going to make it hard for Johnnie to march home.

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  27. Ted Cruz on Leno

    He and his (Hispanic) dad will be red meat for the alternate reality of the MSM "Culture"

    1. A male, more educated version of Palin.

    2. Leno: (Part 2)

      "The Pubs lost the last two elections."

      They lost 2010?

      Leno: Good Guy.

      Low information voter.

    3. Clinton on Cruz

      Blonde Bimbo Orgasm @ a minute 27.

      Look's like a bobblehead.

      Even Bill is willing to diet for more nookie later.

    4. :)

      Good Grief, Doug.

    5. I usta eat great meals like a human.
      Live in a well-organized home.
      Now, I am reduced to this.
      God meant for men to live shorter lives than women.
      In my case, God Fucked Up.