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Sunday, November 03, 2013

Cops are not your friends

The young woman stood her ground and they folded:



How the Police Endanger Public Safety

Law enforcement policies increasingly put the public at risk.
Steven Greenhut | November 1, 2013 REASON

A news photograph from Friday taken in the normally placid suburban community of Roseville, east of Sacramento, was shocking. A California Highway Patrol officer was pointing a rifle at a motorist stopped at a checkpoint, as police searched for an armed parolee who had injured some of their colleagues. It seemed reminiscent of an occupying army.
News stories focused on the suspect and the details of the manhunt, but the police approach – evacuating houses, using military-style vehicles and helicopters – raises a question rarely asked about policing policies today: Do they unnecessarily endanger the public’s safety?
When agencies combed Southern California for former Los Angeles Police Department officer Christopher Dorner in February, some officers fired upon innocent bystanders who didn’t come close to the right profile. Dorner, a large black man, was driving a gray Nissan truck, but an officer shot two Latina women driving a blue Toyota truck. An officer also fired on another bystander 20 minutes later.
Police behaved similarly as they sought a Boston Marathon bomber. As Conor Friedersdorf asked recently in the Atlantic, “Does anyone else find it disturbing that Boston area police, confronted with an unarmed suspect in a backyard boat, fired so many bullets so wildly that multiple adjacent houses were strafed ... ?”
This approach is not uncommon even in day-to-day policing. On October 22, in the middle of the afternoon, 13-year-old Andy Lopez Cruz was walking down the street in Santa Rosa with a plastic pellet rifle. Officers hid behind the door of their patrol car and called to him. As the boy turned, they shot him to death.
According to the police statement, “One of the deputies described that as the subject was turning toward him the barrel of the assault rifle was rising up and turning in his direction. The deputy feared for his safety, the safety of his partner, and the safety of the community members in the area.”
There are ongoing investigations, but this was standard behavior. Police routinely use deadly force in questionable circumstances even as violent crime rates hit record lows. Officer safety seems to trump concerns about public safety.
And there’s remarkably little public discussion about the proper use of deadly force. Because of the California Supreme Court’s 2006 “Copley” decision involving the former owner of this newspaper, the disciplinary records of law-enforcement officers are secret. So are internal investigations of specific shootings. The public has no right to know which officers may have a history of using deadly force.
The Peace Officers’ Bill of Rights makes it tough to remove an officer. Former University of California-Davis cop John Pike, who nonchalantly pepper-sprayed peaceful Occupy protesters in November 2011, was just awarded a $38,000 workers-compensation settlement because of the stress he endured – more than the amount received by any of his victims. Pike spent eight months on paid leave and then was fired.
Yet change only goes in the opposite direction. Gov. Jerry Brown signed SB 313, which forbids police agencies from disciplining officers that district attorneys have listed as having lied or otherwise misbehaved. That will further protect officers who unnecessarily use force and then mislead investigators.
“We need law enforcement professionals who are not operating from a vantage point of fear and paranoia where their own self-preservation trumps all other concerns,” argues Jonathan Taylor, a Cal State Fullerton professor. He was active in protests after Fullerton police in 2011 beat a homeless man named Kelly Thomas. The trial for two officers charged in Thomas’ death is slated for December – a rare instance of police being prosecuted for a killing.
“Deadly force should not be the standard whenever police perceive a threat,” Taylor adds. He and other activists call for policy changes as well as changes within a police culture they view as overly militaristic. Police officials say such responses are needed given the very real dangers officers face and the potential threats to the public of having, say, an armed-and-dangerous parolee roaming the streets.
But most politicians of both parties, fearful of the political clout of police unions, don’t want to go near this topic. So change may hinge on whether enough people are upset enough by these incidents to demand it.



231 comments:

  1. "Never give a badge to a rat, or a rifle to a melancholy bore."

    subway graffiti

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  2. Cops are an easy target. They are accused of bullying you, or, arriving too late.

    Those guys were pretty well behaved. She was too. I am guessing this was one of those DUI stop and check things? She was obviously not drunk or drugged up.

    When they saw she was in a condition to drive they should have said goodbye.

    But they wanted to take a look in her plastic tub. Which they probably don't have a right to do. She said there was nothing in the tub. She could have helped things along by simply opening the tub. But both sides were well behaved.

    What is, does anyone know, the latest court decisions on the legality of just forcing everyone off the road for a DUI check?

    Never seen one out this way.

    Cops - Sometimes they are your best friends, even the only friends you've got.

    It all depends.

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    1. Try running a society without them.

      Ain't gonna work.

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    2. There's a dummy from Finland was asking me, during the government shut-down, who I was going to call if someone broke into my house in the interim. I said Mr. Smith, Mr. Wesson, and Mr. Sig Sauer.

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    3. Better than if they had gained entrance through your solarium.

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    4. A solarium in Seattle is like an ejection seat for a helicopter.

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    5. As long as it fires away from the sun (assumes you're not in Seattle and can determine where the Sun is.)

      And only ejects between the skids w/sufficient altitude.

      All systems should be nominal, and ready for launch.

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  3. Death (from above) of a Hero:

    The death of Hakimullah Mehsud, a ruthless leader known for attacking a CIA base in Afghanistan and a bloody campaign that killed thousands of Pakistani civilians and members of the security forces, is a heavy blow for the militant group.

    Mehsud gained a reputation as a merciless planner of suicide attacks in Pakistan. After taking over as the Pakistani Taliban’s leader, he tried to internationalize the group’s focus.
    He’s believed to have been behind a deadly suicide attack at a CIA base in Afghanistan and a failed car bombing in New York’s Times Square, as well as assaults in Pakistan that killed thousands of civilians and members of security forces.

    Mehsud was on the U.S. most-wanted terrorist lists with a $5 million bounty.

    Proof positive that he should have been granted asylum, and a judgement by Justice Roberts wrt his Constitutionality.

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    "“Dialogue has been broken with this drone attack,” said Khan."

    Boo hoo, hoo.

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    1. Then I say up the drone attacks, we call call that our dialogue. Certainly terrorists think their acts of violence are a form of monologue.

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    2. A Droning Dialogue would be oh so dreadful.

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    3. Instead of the Helsinki Accord, it'll be a fight to the Finnish.

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    4. Meanwhile, the terrorists will enter your interim.

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    5. Maybe we can Sweden the deal a little bit, throw in some hot tub time for the Mullahs, with blondes.

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    6. Reminds me of the checkpoints apartheid Israel has.

      Why does the USA try to keep the native hispanics from their right to travel?


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    7. If they don't like it, they can bring their aunts and uncles and gramma and grandpa and all their nephews and nieces over the border and just go to the place with the sign that says "VOTE AQUI"

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    8. Snowden will screw up the Sweden deal.

      Mullahs and blondes in a tub would be a sour reveal.

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    9. Snowden should be content tapping that Russian tail.

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    10. We do know Swedish Foreign Minister Carl Bildt is tweeting in his office.

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    11. Google Glasses, and a mirror, instant Internet porn.

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  4. The first duty of cops is to protect other cops.

    Number two, is to protect their jobs.

    Three, their bosses and their bosses are their masters and then your masters.

    Four, you, maybe.

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    1. GAZA, Nov. 3 (Xinhua) -- An Israeli army reconnaissance aircraft crashed in northern Gaza Strip Sunday and sources said that militants from Hamas, the Islamist group controlling the enclave, seized the fallen drone

      Now the fear is that military experts in Gaza will quickly reverse-engineer the drone and send a fleet of copy-cat drones over Israeli territory, possibly armed with Iranian nukes smuggled from Egypt.

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    2. When the US lost a drone over Iran, quot blamed President Obama.

      Now we see that Bibi Netenyahoo has endangered the Free World with his reckless use of drone technologies over that rebel enclave in Israel, the Gaza Strip.

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    3. Here is the actual video of the Hamas embracing new Israeli technology

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ML1OZCHixR0

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    4. Teresita RedingerSun Nov 03, 09:23:00 AM EST
      GAZA, Nov. 3 (Xinhua) -- An Israeli army reconnaissance aircraft crashed in northern Gaza Strip Sunday and sources said that militants from Hamas, the Islamist group controlling the enclave, seized the fallen drone

      Not to worry Ms T, the Israelis use the drones they purchased with military aid from the USA from Hobbyland.

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  5. You don’t have to thank a cop for his service. He wants to be a cop, for his own service.

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    1. What happened to ya Deuce, get a speeding ticket yesterday?

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  6. It was an Immigration Checkpoint. The young man was just trying to do his job. He was in a tough spot.

    It's cool to be young, blond, and the daughter of wealthy, multiple home-owning parents.

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  7. How many Valley Girls does it take to change a lightbulb? Two, one to open the Diet Coke, the other to call daddy.

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    1. How many software engineers does it take to change a light bulb?





      none!



      It is a hardware problem.

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    2. Microsoft engineers just make darkness a standard and rely on vendor lock-in.

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  8. Militarizing the police forces of the Us has not lowered the crime rates.
    For violent crime, including rape, robbery and assault, those rates rose by more than one-third from 2010 to 2012, according to federal data. ( http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/10/31/us-usa-poll-crime-idUSBRE99U11Z20131031 )


    Gun Violence in U.S. Cities Compared to the Deadliest Nations in the World

    Richard Florida
    Jan 22, 2013

    The pattern is staggering. A number of U.S. cities have gun homicide rates in line with the most deadly nations in the world.

    If it were a country, New Orleans (with a rate 62.1 gun murders per 100,000 people) would rank second in the world.
    Detroit's gun homicide rate (35.9) is just a bit less than El Salvador (39.9).
    Baltimore's rate (29.7) is not too far off that of Guatemala (34.8).
    Gun murder in Newark (25.4) and Miami (23.7) is comparable to Colombia (27.1).
    Washington D.C. (19) has a higher rate of gun homicide than Brazil (18.1).
    Atlanta's rate (17.2) is about the same as South Africa (17).
    Cleveland (17.4) has a higher rate than the Dominican Republic (16.3).
    Gun murder in Buffalo (16.5) is similar to Panama (16.2).
    Houston's rate (12.9) is slightly higher than Ecuador's (12.7).
    Gun homicide in Chicago (11.6) is similar to Guyana (11.5).
    Phoenix's rate (10.6) is slightly higher than Mexico (10).
    Los Angeles (9.2) is comparable to the Philippines (8.9).
    Boston rate (6.2) is higher than Nicaragua (5.9).
    New York, where gun murders have declined to just four per 100,000, is still higher than Argentina (3).
    Even the cities with the lowest homicide rates by American standards, like San Jose and Austin, compare to Albania and Cambodia respectively.

    Yes, it's true we are comparing American cities to nations. But most of these countries here have relatively small populations, in many cases comparable to large U.S. metros.

    The sad reality is that many American cities have rates of gun homicides comparable to the some of the most violent nations in the world.


    http://www.theatlanticcities.com/politics/2013/01/gun-violence-us-cities-compared-deadliest-nations-world/4412/

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  9. The Key Facts Are ...

    • The US has the highest gun ownership rate in the world - an average of 88 per 100 people. That puts it first in the world for gun ownership - and even the number two country, Yemen, has significantly fewer - 54.8 per 100 people

    • But the US does not have the worst firearm murder rate - that prize belongs to Honduras, El Salvador and Jamaica. In fact, the US is number 28, with a rate of 2.97 per 100,000 people

    • Puerto Rico tops the world's table for firearms murders as a percentage of all homicides - 94.8%. It's followed by Sierra Leone in Africa and Saint Kitts and Nevis in the Caribbean

    The full data is below - what can you do with it?


    http://www.theguardian.com/news/datablog/2012/jul/22/gun-homicides-ownership-world-list

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  10. The solutions are HARD. Simple, but frustratingly difficult. You have to keep the young, poor males in the game. Education (better school systems - more money,) a living wage for their parents - single moms working at McDonalds, and JOBS.

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    1. Wages are the equilibrium point between what two free people negotiate, the employer trying to pay as little as possible, the employee trying to get paid as much as possible. If this point is not a "living wage" and you want to do something about it, obviously the employer must be coerced to pay more, which means he is not free.

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    2. Freedom is not free

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    3. I didn't mean free as in free beer.

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    4. Either did I

      There are legal, moral and social responsibilities, when one becomes an "employer" of others.
      If a person does not want to carry those responsibilities, they will not be coerced into becoming an employer.

      Wages are not an equilibrium point between to "free" people.
      They are part of a larger social contract.

      One in which the employer accepts a greater social responsibility, by their own free choice.

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    5. What if he doesn't accept it? Is that allowed?

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  11. Quirk,

    Thanks for the Foreign Policy article link. There was one paragraph that seems to typify how the Israelis operate:

    "On May 14, the Zionist leadership unilaterally declared the existence of the State of Israel, citing Resolution 181 as constituting “recognition by the United Nations of the right of the Jewish people to establish their State”.[36] As anticipated, war ensued."

    http://www.foreignpolicyjournal.com/2010/10/26/the-myth-of-the-u-n-creation-of-israel/3/

    As the article makes clear Res 181 did not do that yet they jump on it and act. Another example of similar behavior is Israeli settlement activity. As their revered leader Ariel Sharon said of founding and protecting settlements - 'they are Facts On The Ground'.

    I am currently reading a very interesting book on the Middle East call "Lawrence in Arabia" by Scott Anderson. It is an account of what many say is the 'cause' of our current middle east problems - the period around the first world war. I recommend others here read it if they are interested in the ME.

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    1. There is an innate human tendency to find a single root cause for everything. Rufus does with with his Peak Oil crap. Life is much more complicated than that. Our problems in the Middle-East are a combination of artificial borders that don't match tribal boundaries, the discovery of the oil fields, a religion that turns the clock back to 700 CE, and an interventionist foreign policy held over from the Cold War.

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    2. Sry should of said "Roots"

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  12. “Most middle-class whites have no idea what it feels like to be subjected to police who are routinely suspicious, rude, belligerent, and brutal.”

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    1. Possibly because most middle-class whites don't pimp their hos and drop niggaz who diss 'em wid dere nine.

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    2. Written like the typical slant eyed bitch that she is.

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    3. I bet she us stingy and can't drive worth a shit. Asians are sluts and can only work on old archaic computers because they lack they lack the creativity to do other than they are told.

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  13. “It has always struck me that one of the readiest ways of estimating a country's regard for law is to notice what arms the officers of the law are carrying: in England it is little batons, in France swords, in many countries revolvers, and in Russia the police used to have artillery.”

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  14. Virginia Democrat Calls For Forcing Doctors To Accept Medicare And Medicaid Patients

    http://masonconservative.typepad.com/the_mason_conservative/2013/11/virginia-democrat-calls-for-forcing-doctors-to-accept-medicare-and-medicaid-patients.html

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    1. There is a social duty and responsibility that a doctor accepts, when they apply for that LICENSE to practice medicine.
      When the doctor applies for and accepts that LICENSE, they accept the social responsibilities that goes with it.

      If part of the duties of a doctor is to care for Medicare and Medicaid patients, then they will do so, or their LICENSE will be revoked.
      There is no "Right" to be a doctor, not without a LICENSE.
      The LICENSE carries with it duties and responsibilities.

      The doctor is free to be a doctor, or not.
      To accept their social responsibilities and duties, or not.

      The US can always import doctors, or export patients.
      Medicine is part of a global marketplace, where transportation costs are quite low.

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    2. Hell, a person cannot even cut or braid hair, for a fee, without a LICENSE, in most states.

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    3. People cannot get married without a license from the state.

      They accept social and legal responsibilities when they obtain the license.

      Licensing of basic human activities is commonplace.
      It controls, at least defines, sinful behavior.

      For a doctor to not treat the elderly or the poor, that is sinful behavior and should be illegal.

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    4. Nonsense. You have never seen a medical license, I see.

      Recently, you have become a strong advocate for moving people around. Do you prefer cattle cars or boxcars?

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    5. You can always fly to Israel and visit and have a medical vacation!! See the great and important historic sites, eat great food, visit Jerusalem (Eternal capital of the Jewish People) and see major religious sites from all western faiths! Go to Haifa and see the BEAUTIFUL gardens of the Bahá'í Faith, these folks escaped from Iran and settled in israel where they have freedom of faith in the Jewish state. Now let's thank the Palestinians for wounding and harming so many within Israel (and around the world on various airlines and airports) that has forced Israel to become 1st class in wound treatment. israel is now a major leader in medical technology (thanks PLO) and is happy to accept patients from around the world!!!

      Come to israel, get your hip replaced and your soul lifted...

      israel.. where it all begins...

      A most lovely place and the oranges?? RULE.

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  15. "Where there is no law, there is no sin."

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  16. To those who would naysay:

    Enlighten me to one school of economic theory that has been more "right-on" than the "Peak Oilers."

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    1. In the 8 years prior to 2005, World Oil Production Increased by One Million bbls/day, Annually.

      In the 8 years since, World Oil Production has increased by One-Fifth that amount.


      Now, compare that to Global GDP Growth.

      Global Oil Production

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    2. Still increasing though. You told us 2005 was Peak.

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  17. Cops and drones are not that far apart. Some of you may remember that the phenomenon of a targeted extrajudicial killing of a “terrorist” as he approaches peace initiatives is nothing new.

    In Israel in 2002, a group of writers filed suit against the Israeli government for killing a moderate Hamas diplomat as he travelled to engage in truce negotiations.

    A few years later Sheikh Yassine, leader of the Hamas political wing was killed in a missile attack after he suggested that a negotiated two-state solution with Israel could be possible, despite Hamas’ constitutional covenant calling for Israel’s destruction.

    Recall the Phoenix Program in Vietnam. It was a simple way for an INDIVIDUAL to get revenge, take over a business, etc. For my thesis in college I interviewed a former SF intelligence sergeant who paid informants to pass on information to the Americans. All a tribe had to do then was declare their enemies as “communists” during Vietnam and now they mention the magic words “al Qaeda”. Palestinian informants play the Jews all the time. Afghans play the Americans as did the Iraqis and the Isrelis play the Americans. This theory of counterinsurgency didn’t work then and it doesn’t work now.

    Last November, acting Hamas military commander Ahmed Jebari was assassinated as a permanent truce agreement had been drafted and awaiting the signatures of Israeli and Hamas representatives. Israeli defense minister Ehud Barak resigned shortly after this in an apparent protest over the subversion of the peace process.

    Ahmed Jebari hated the Israelis and with cause. While at the Islamic University of Gaza, Jabari joined Fatah, which advocated armed struggle against Israel. In 1982, he was arrested by the Israeli authorities and imprisoned for 13 years, but he was ready to talk.

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    1. LOL

      Now that's funny...

      Hamas making a "permanent" peace?

      Let's be honest.

      Hamas hates Israel, Jews, Zionism, Judaism (much like several people here), Hamas shoots thousands of rockets at civilians living in Israel (unlike most people here) It's war.

      Hamas? A democratic (chicago style democracy) election was held, Hamas won, Hamas murdered and kneecapped the losers.

      Now Hamas still tunnels into Israel to kidnap and murder.

      And gets it's panties in a wad when they are punished.

      The funny story here?

      Egypt is now pissed at it's fellow brothers in Gaza.

      Destroyed 1200 tunnels. Killed 52 in a single day...

      LOL


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    2. As the locusts spread their virus across 899/900th of the middle east and the rest of the world female genital mutilation, honor killings, rapes of the infidel, soaring violent crime rates all point to the faith of Mohammed.

      Only in Israel are moslems integrated and respected and protected.

      LOL

      Freedom for Islam in Israel? Yep Virginia there is a Santa Claus.

      The future for the survival of a reformed intelligent peaceful Islam lives and thrives in Israel.

      After the locusts burn themselves out across the planet, the good Islam will be able to step out of the shadows and thrive.

      All thanks to Israel. :)

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    3. Thieves respect property. 
      They merely wish the property to become their property that they may more perfectly respect it. 

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    4. "The danger in man abandoning God is not that he will believe nothing, but that he will believe anything.
      ___Chesterton

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    5. “Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities.”

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  18. The Palestinians did not get the memo. They continue to place great emphasis on the Balfour Declaration.

    PA calls Balfour Declaration "a crime against humanity".[The PA demands an apology from the UK]
    http://www.jpost.com/Diplomacy-and-Politics/Netanyahu-says-core-of-conflict-is-refusal-of-Palestinians-to-recognize-Jews-right-to-statehood-330479

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    1. Fact remains, the arabs, 1/2 of the heirs to Abraham, now control 899/900th of the middle east.

      Is that a proper property split between two brothers?

      One wonders why the greed and selfishness of one side of the family is so deep. Not satisfied with 899/900th of the land, and 20% of the 1/900th they seek even more..

      greedy cousins.. this is why we do not invite them over for christmas... they want all the eggnog and gifts and just want to give us the old family rum cake.... pricks

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    2. End the OccupationSun Nov 03, 11:22:00 AM EST

      Correct, the Palestinians reject the concept of a "Jewish" state.

      Netanyahu and his cohort cannot even tell us what it is, to be a Jew.
      Let alone have it define the nature of a political state.

      Judaism is not a race, it is not a single tribe and is not solely a religion.
      Or there could not be "Secular" Jews, like Netanyahu.
      The entire concept of a "Jewish" state is amorphous.

      What is a Jew, it needs to be defined in legal terms.

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    3. Ah but as you have argued the only true Palestinians are the Jews.

      And it's up to the Jews to define themselves...

      So thanks again for your concern however "who is a jew" is above your pay grade not ours.

      But thanks for your concern. BTW you and your fellow "cockroaches" had no problem ID'ing who is a Jew when you looted, raped and murdered Jews since Mohammed crawled out of Arabia.

      It's funny really. 240 THOUSAND Jewish households and businesses were looted, burned or stolen and you never had a problem figuring out "WHO IS A JEW" then.

      When 850,000 Jews were driven from the homes across the middle east from 1967-48 no problem in figuring out who is a jew.

      From 650 to 1967 the arabs in the middle east NEVER had a problem of who is a jew, who to wear those stars on their clothes.

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    4. Re: What is a Jew

      A Jew is anyone born to a Jewish mother or a convert to Judaism. That is the law.

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    5. Can I convert to Judaism and immigrate to Israel?

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    6. Go to an orthodox rabbi, get turned down 7 times, pass the tests...

      Help yourself.

      Not to worry they are VERY good at spotting the fakers... I suggest you use a name other than "Anonymous"

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    7. Law, whose Law?

      The Nuremberg Laws of Jewish Purity?




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    8. How did the mothers become "Jewish"?

      Or the mothers, mothers, mother, ten times removed become "Jewish"

      That's what happened to Hitchens, he woke up one day and discovered he was "Jewish"
      Just like Michelle Obama, part of a family tree.

      Like being an Aryan?

      But we're sure, it is not the father's genes that count?
      That's a given, correct?

      It was not Abraham that founded the "Jewish" genetic line, it was his wife.

      Are there records of those that "Converted" and if so, how far back do those records go?
      To Egypt, the time in Babylon, or are those records, if the exist more recent?

      How do we ascertain the "Jewishness" of the mother and her bloodline?

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    9. What would a Rabbi have to do with ascertaining "Jewishness"?

      What if a person wanted to convert and become a "Secular Jew" ...
      Like Bibi.
      There is no religious test to Secularism.

      Or are "Secular Jews" some how different than "Conversion Jews" and why should they be, from a Treaty perspective?

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  19. This guy also did not get the memo.


    Khamenei: Zionist regime is an illegitimate and bastard regime
    http://www.jpost.com/Iranian-Threat/News/Khamenei-Zionist-regime-is-an-illegitimate-and-bastard-regime-330487

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    1. He forgot to read the memo King Cyrus sent out...

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    2. They got King Herrod's

      Kill the Jewish babies!

      The Chief Rabbinate of Israel still laments the murder of 20,000 Jews, every year, by the secular state of Israel.

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    3. Which Islamic country murders more Jews than the secular state of Israel?

      Year, after year, after year.

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    4. If you figure each and every Jewish male murdered by an arab MURDERS several million sperm each time.

      This would make Islam the largest murderer of Jews int he middle east in modern times. EACH Jewish male carried several MILLION potential lives. All murdered by Arabs.

      Sorry In Israel? We don't murder our sperm creators....

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    5. Anon.

      Yours is a personal opinion, having no standing in law.

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    6. The term "Jewish" has no meaning in the Law, unless we all travel back to Nuremberg, 1935.

      It is interesting that the Israeli demand a "Jewish" state, but refuse to define "Jewish"

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    7. You seem to be surprised to hear that there are still problems of 1948 to be solved, the most important component of which is the right to return of Palestinian refugees.

      The Palestinian-Israeli conflict is not just an issue of military occupation and Israel is not a country that was established “normally” and happened to occupy another country in 1967.

      Palestinians are not struggling for a “state” but for freedom, liberation and equality, just like we were struggling for freedom in South Africa.

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    8. Nelson was saddened that in 1948 the final solution to the Jewish question was not answered the way he wanted it to be. For Nelson? 6 million was not enough. the complete and total ethnic cleansing of the Jews from the middle east into Israel was not enough, Nelson sought genocide.

      Nelson lost.

      Nelson advocated and used "necklacing" (tires placed over the head and arms of a victim, doused with gasoline and lit on fire) on his political enemies. Nelson was not a nice guy.

      Nelson in latter years refined his public persona to become the freedom fighter he never was.

      Bombing shopping malls, kidnapping and murder were nelson's MO, that is why even Amnesty International never called for his release as his crimes were true violent crimes and not political.

      In the end? Nelson was nothing by a cartoonish metaphor that the illiterate masses hung their hats onto.

      Che, Mao, Stalin, Arafat, Bill Ayers, Mohammed, MalcomX all great examples as well.

      Illiteracy of the masses and no choice of to where to get information.

      There are no palestinian refugees that cannot be resettled into Palestine today, Area A of the west bank and gaza have PLENTY of room. Just no want for the fake refugees to come in and take from the UN goody pie given to the PA and Hamas each year.

      Greed.

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    9. It's amazing to think that Palestinians are still living in "refugee" camps INSIDE the ARAB State of Palestine.

      LOL

      Dumb fuckers.

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    10. End the OccupationSun Nov 03, 02:12:00 PM EST

      Home Demolitions: By the Numbers

      Since 1967, Israel has destroyed approximately 27,000 Palestinian structures in the occupied territories (the West Bank, East Jerusalem, and Gaza Strip), including more than 24,000 homes, according to ICAHD.
      Since the renewal of negotiations in August 2013, Israel has destroyed approximately 25 Palestinian homes, in addition to dozens of other structures, leaving approximately 200 people homeless.

      According to the UN, between January and September 2013, 862 Palestinians were displaced by Israeli demolitions, compared to 886 (including 468 children) in all of 2012.

      In 2012, a total of 600 Palestinian structures were demolished by Israel in the occupied territories, including at least 189 homes, according to ICAHD. This figure doesn’t include “self-demolitions” whereby Palestinians destroy their own homes rather than have Israel do it and charge them an additional fine.


      One Bedouin village, Al-Araqib, in the Negev desert in the south of Israel, has been destroyed more than 50 times by Israel since July 2010.

      Between 2005 and 2012, Israel demolished approximately 1500 Palestinian homes due to owners lacking hard-to-obtain construction permits.

      Between 1993 and 2000, when the Oslo Accords were being negotiated between Israel and the Palestine Liberation Organization, Israel destroyed almost 1700 Palestinian homes in the occupied territories.

      Immediately following Israel’s occupation of the West Bank, East Jerusalem, and Gaza in 1967, approximately 6000 Palestinian homes were demolished, including four entire villages in the Latrun area, along with dozens of homes in the Mughrabi Quarter of Jerusalem’s Old City, which were destroyed to make way for a plaza for the Western Wall. In 1971, between 2000 and 6000 Palestinian homes were destroyed in Gaza in an effort to pacify the newly occupied territory.

      During Israel’s creation (1948-49), Zionist and then Israeli forces expelled approximately 750,000 Palestinian Arabs from their ancestral lands in order to create a Jewish majority state of Israel. In the process, more than 400 Palestinian population centers were systematically destroyed, including thousands of homes, businesses, and houses of worship.

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    11. One Bedouin village, Al-Araqib, in the Negev desert in the south of Israel, has been destroyed more than 50 times by Israel since July 2010.

      Must be using the NEW and improved quick set up tents...

      LOL

      Got to love the propaganda.

      One Bedouin village, Al-Araqib, in the Negev desert in the south of Israel, has been destroyed more than 50 times by Israel since July 2010.

      how do you "destroy" a village 50 times in 2.5 years... LOL

      now that's funny.

      "look mohammed, while we were out the Israelis, oh I mean "zionist" ZOG soldiers took down my camel skins!!!!!

      1.

      "look Mohammed" the IDF were here again and took down my corrugated tin pieces from my tent!

      2.

      "look mohammed" let us set up used milk bottle collection containers to make us a home! Oh dam some Jew store our cartons and got the 5cents each return fee..

      3.


      And so it went for almost three years.

      Bedoiun BUILD a village, in about 45 minutes, squat there for a few weeks until the dreaded IDF finds them, comes and makes them take town their tents and move. The arabs? leave their trash and filth and walk off into the desert for the next beautify place to turn in to a trash dump...


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  20. Hamas leader's kin gets Israeli medical aid even as terror group blasts Jewish state

    Hamas Prime Minister Ismail Haniyeh has no problem calling for the destruction of Israel and blaming it for attacks linked to his own party, but when his relative needs life-saving heart surgery, only Israeli doctors will do.

    The stunning hypocrisy comes to light after five Hamas-backed terrorists allegedly killed 16 Egyptian soldiers in the Sinai Peninsula that borders Gaza. Although evidence points to a Hamas-backed terror operation, Haniyeh inexplicably blamed it on Israel. The suspects were later killed by Israeli Defense Forces when they tried to cross the Kerem Shalom border.

    “A person from the inner circle of the Hamas leadership did receive treatment at Beilinson Hospital."
    - Israeli government source

    "Israel is responsible, one way or another, for this attack to embarrass Egypt's leadership and create new problems at the border, in order to ruin efforts to end the [Israeli] siege of the Gaza Strip,” Haniyeh claimed during in an interviews with the Hamas-run Al-Aqsa television.

    Yet only a few months ago, the revelation that Ismail Haniyeh’s brother-in-law received a special permit from the Israeli government to travel into the Jewish State to receive life-saving heart surgery has come as something of a surprise.

    Haniyeh’s sister Suhila’s husband suffered undisclosed heart problems four months ago that doctors in Gaza were unable to treat, according to Ynetnews.com. The stricken man and his wife were whisked to Beilinson Hospital in Petah Tikva in central Israel, where he was treated, and some days later, the couple returned to Gaza.

    “A person from the inner circle of the Hamas leadership did receive treatment at Beilinson Hospital," an Israeli government source confirmed to FoxNews.com. "Although there are no diplomatic relations between Israel and Hamas, there are many occasions when requests for help based on purely medical decisions taken in Gaza are granted by Israel for humanitarian reasons.”

    No one from Hamas was available for comment on the case.

    Guy Inbar, spokesman for Israel's Coordinator of Government Activities in the Territories told FoxNews.com that Israel routinely renders such humanitarian aid to Palestinians - when it is requested. “Approximately 115,000 Palestinian patients from the West Bank were treated in Israeli hospitals during 2011. Additionally, some 9500 permits were issued for Palestinians from Gaza to receive treatment”, he said.

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    1. Yep, that "Israeli-Care" is a great thing.

      My only question might be: If we're going to pay for Israelicare for Palestinians, shouldn't we also make it available to poor Americans?

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    2. I'd say America should give emergency medical care to it's citizens, including those that hold jobs.

      But your sentence says two different things.

      " If we're going to pay for Israelicare for Palestinians, shouldn't we also make it available to poor Americans?"

      Poor Americans have access to healthcare for free. It's called Medicaid.

      ACCESS is not the same thing as who pays.

      Show me ONE gunshot victim in the USA that has EVER been denied care.

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    3. Or did I read your question wrong. Are you saying we need to SHIP poor Americans to Israel for medical care?

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    4. Now the poor in America would not be happy there. No free phones, no free housing or Job training, sure if they are wounded by a palestinian rocket they will get free operations and treatment. But the average "poor" American? Lives like a king compared to the average "poor" israeli.

      Maybe the "poor" Americans that need Israeli medical care could sell their NIKES, iPhones, Flat screen tvs? And pay for the El Al Airline ticket..

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    5. In states such as Texas, Mississippi, etc, $6,900.00/ yr is too rich to receive Medicaid.

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    6. How much Medical Care do you think you could afford on $575.00/mo., gross.

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    7. “Millions of our citizens do not now have a full measure of opportunity to achieve and to enjoy good health. Millions do not now have protection or security against the economic effects of sickness. And the time has now arrived for action to help them attain that opportunity and to help them get that protection.”

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    8. “If a free society cannot help the many who are poor, it cannot save the few who are rich.”

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    9. Rufus IISun Nov 03, 12:08:00 PM EST
      In states such as Texas, Mississippi, etc, $6,900.00/ yr is too rich to receive Medicaid.

      So to be clear. You are saying that if you go to an emergency room with a gunshot or a broken leg you cannot get medical treatment in those states?

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    10. Emergency room care is an Extremely Small Part of Medical Care.

      Many times a couple of hundred dollars worth of Medical Care can save Tens of Thousands, if not Hundreds of Thousands of Dollars of "Emergency" Room Care.

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    11. please answer the exact question.

      are people denied medical care in emergencies in the USA?

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    12. Show me ONE gunshot victim in the USA that has EVER been denied care.

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    13. you said: My only question might be: If we're going to pay for Israelicare for Palestinians, shouldn't we also make it available to poor Americans?


      Do Americans have access to emergency care in America, JUST AS PALESTINIANS DO IN ISRAEL?

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    14. Yes, gunshot victims get emergency treatment.

      So, let me rephrase; if we are going to pay for Universal Healthcare for Rich Israelis, perhaps we should also provide the same for Poor Americans.

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    15. The state of Israel pays to kill Jewish babies.
      Finances what the Chief Rabbinate of Israel describes as "The Murder of Jews".
      Part of the socialist Israeli Health Care System.
      The one Mitt Romney praised.

      The US government does not fund abortions.

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    16. Anon get with the program...

      the USA PAYs for the abortions in Israel Money is fungible.

      LOL

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    17. So, let me rephrase; if we are going to pay for Universal Healthcare for Rich Israelis, perhaps we should also provide the same for Poor Americans.

      Ah but you don't pay for RICH Israelis.

      You pay for all Palestinians....

      :)

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    18. Which why the US should withdraw funding for the fascist baby killers in Israel.

      On both sides of the "Green Line"

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    19. Let those "rich" Israeli dig into their own pockets, for once.

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    20. AnonymousSun Nov 03, 02:05:00 PM EST
      Let those "rich" Israeli dig into their own pockets, for once.

      Wow perfect example of bigotry. No facts, just insults.

      Come on rat, be a man, use your sign in...

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    21. I think old desert rat, he went down to Cedar Key and is hangin' out with Travis McGee.

      Spending some time on the "Busted Flush".

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  21. Texas Cop And Mother Of Two Chases Down Crooks After Being Shot In The Face

    http://latino.foxnews.com/latino/news/2013/11/01/texas-cop-and-mother-two-chases-down-crooks-after-being-shot-in-face/?intcmp=obinsite

    Giving up was not an option for Ann Carrizales. Not even when the Stafford, Texas police officer was shot in the face during an early morning traffic stop gone awry.

    The 40-year-old former Marine and mother of two was on patrol around three in the morning last week when she pulled over three men in a four-door Nissan at a mobile home park. Her good police sense told her that something was not right as she approached the vehicle, which had suspiciously been idling at a green light moments before.

    Within seconds of walking up to it, the front passenger let out a spray of bullets, hitting Carrizales once in the cheek and once in her bulletproof vest before speeding away.

    “Shots fired, shots fired, I’m hit,” she said into her radio.

    “I knew that it was what I needed to do to catch these guys,” “You can’t shoot me and drive away: It’s not allowed.”

    She kept up with the fleeing men until they reached a neighboring area where they abandoned the car and took off on foot. The suspect was arrested on the scene.

    Most Cops do good. Some Cops do bad.

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    1. The older one gets, the more one appreciates the cops.

      It is the young who see them as oppressive.

      The reason is simple enough. It is the young who statistically are most up to no good.

      Those over say 35 maybe have grown up and may have something to protect. Like maybe their car, their home, their kids........

      Further, they've generally given up drinking while driving, don't like loud noises, have survived the drug temptations, and like a little serenity at times.

      Without the cops we'd have true chaos and vigilantism.

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    2. Like the true chaos in those poverty stricken soccer match villages in Brazil I was recently reading about, where it's one man and his machete against all the others and their machetes.

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    3. Fudd Hunters InternationalSun Nov 03, 12:42:00 PM EST

      Yep, like in NYCity ...
      Where the police ride with biker gangs and assault citizens on the street.
      Engaging in the attack, because their "cover" is more important than the citizen.

      Then the fascists amongst US then use that lawlessness on the part of the police to justify their demands for ever greater limits to personal freedoms and liberty across the our great nation.

      To keep US safe.

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  22. I didn't call you a slant eyed bitch, Miss T. This is my first post since 6:58 am EST

    I like this -

    Teresita RedingerSun Nov 03, 08:36:00 AM EST
    A solarium in Seattle is like an ejection seat for a helicopter.

    Hehehheh -

    "When a week of rain is a year" -- Roethke

    We both know what that means do we not?

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    1. Fudd Hunters InternationalSun Nov 03, 12:28:00 PM EST

      The fascist Farmer Fudd is a liar.
      He is a misogynist with no respect for the role women play in our society.
      He is a fascist that wants to limit freedom, so he feels safer, more secure.

      He is a mentally deficient fuck, that cannot even utilize a Google account.
      It is beyond his cognizant ability, and his women have abandoned him.

      The misogynist who told us he could have the ObamaCare web site working in three years, cannot sign-on to a Google account after three months.
      Even with the help of his "Tech Support", what a team they are, modeled after Vandal Football.
      Content, even smug in losing.

      .The Libertarian puts up with the ravages of the Hegemony of Character, because Farmer Fudd cannot deal with the sign-on, Deuce opens the blog to any Anonymous or Name/URL that wants to use it.

      Look at the litter, because of it.

      All that because Farmer Fudd refuses to be part of the community.

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    2. After that last "hump" his wife took a hike.

      :):):):):)

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  23. For all the debate on the effects of the tea party's and the Republican party's march to the far right at the federal level, it’s their implications at the state level that will probably be with us longest.

    Back in 2010, 11 states — Alabama, Indiana, Kansas, Maine, Michigan, Ohio, Oklahoma, Pennsylvania, Tennessee, Wisconsin, and Wyoming — put Republicans in control of all branches of state government. Other states saw their center of gravity move much farther to the right. And in the years since, those states have pushed an all-out conservative agenda.

    Some elements of this this fight are well-covered and understood, particularly on . . . . . . .

    Tea Party Assault on the Working Class

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  24. Po' blog, Whackadoodle is back at it again today, and so early too.

    Why do you let him do it, Deuce?

    Whacky has been posting the litter, he has posted as anon a hundred times, and as various others names, quoting stuff. Endlessly.

    You've lost.

    "Rat is bat shit crazy."

    Quirk.

    etc, etc - wife is calling to go out to breakfast so won't go through the whole list.

    No cred, all crude.

    Nobody believes a word you say any longer, professional asshole.

    Everyone is sick of you.

    Later

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    1. No cred, all crude crud.

      Sorry

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    2. Who are you, Anonymous, but a fascist Fudd?


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    3. I know desert rat wrote the character with you in mind.
      That you embraced it so....
      A credit to his writing skills.

      What that embrace says about you, though . . . .

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    4. “We spend so much time creating a façade of what we want to project to the world,
      we almost forget what we ourselves are truly about in the process.”

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    5. “This path was not that of my conscious choosing.

      But after persistent subconscious confrontation, I have finally embraced what is, 'souly' for me...
      and I am thankful, when called upon, to be able to share and give to those who seek their own way of the path.”

      Fudd

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    6. That's the Authentic Fudd

      bobbo

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  25. Daniel Lee EdstromSun Nov 03, 01:02:00 PM EST


    “Reality is what you embrace”

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    1. You may wish to say that truck is not real, it may be your reality but the truck's reality is about 3 tons greater...

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    2. Such a simpleton ...


      Absolute Reality vs Relative Reality

      Absolute or relative reality, absolute or relative truth.

      Relative reality: that which is observed by the senses, that which changes, that which depends on “other” for its state or condition, that which involves duality. Relative truth: that which can be analyzed, that which is interpreted, that which fits within a context. Relative spirituality: the study of the teachings of scholars and theologians as they interpret the words of the prophets and the Masters.

      Absolute reality: that which never changes, that which is eternal, that which is inextricably a part of the all, that which is beyond interpretation and beyond comprehension by minds without infinite vision. As close as man can come to absolute spirituality while in a body is to intuitively rediscover the insights which the prophets received, the non-verbal blissful knowing of the mind of God, and to see it as that which forms the true laws of our reality.

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    3. In religion as well as in philosophy there are priests and there are prophets. The prophets had a direct experience of something nonverbal and indescribable. Their lives were changed. The priests disseminate hearsay evidence doing their best to convey the truth of the prophet as best as their limited understanding will allow. The dichotomy of religion has long since been revealed. Religion, along with greed, has been the cause of all major wars.

      Religions impose guilt to keep people attending regularly and to keep the coffers full.

      On the other hand religions provide guidelines for moral living. Religions create community. Religions publish the words of the prophet, though edited.

      These words give the spiritual student a starting place as he or she searches for understanding. When the student has reached his own place of direct connection with the spirit realms through prayer and meditation he no longer needs the published words but may still be inspired by them.

      Being inspired to seek intuitive truth within is different from believing the printed words themselves hold the truth within their letters.

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    4. “He showed the words “chocolate cake” to a group of Americans and recorded their word associations.
      “Guilt” was the top response.
      If that strikes you as unexceptional, consider the response of French eaters to the same prompt: “celebration.”

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  26. More than a decade after the last SR-71 was decommissioned, Lockheed Martin has unveiled the gorgeous-looking SR-72. It flies just as far and twice as fast as its predecessor — and, in a twist, it's now lethal, according to Aviationweek:


    The SR-72 is being designed with strike capability in mind. “We would envision a role with over-flight ISR, as well as missiles,” Leland says. Being launched from a Mach 6 platform, the weapons would not require a booster, significantly reducing weight. The higher speed of the SR-72 would also give it the ability to detect and strike more agile targets. “Even with the -SR-71, at Mach 3, there was still time to notify that the plane was coming, but at Mach 6, there is no reaction time to hide a mobile target. It is unavoidable ISR,” he adds.

    The jet accelerates by way of a two-part system. A conventional jet turbine helps boost the aircraft up to Mach 3, at which point a specialized ramjet takes over and pushes the plane even faster into hypersonic mode.

    From Lockheed's mock-ups, there doesn't appear to be a bubble for the pilot — which suggests a windowless cockpit or fantasies about a future unmanned version of . . . . . . . .

    Mach Six and Beeyootiful

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    1. But, if you read the linked article, it's really not stealthy.

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  27. 3 Huge Differences Between the Medicare Part D and Obamacare Launches

    By Keith Speights | More Articles | Save For Later
    November 3, 2013 | Comments (3)

    A complicated and controversial major expansion of government involvement in health care runs into big technical problems. Americans complain. Politicians pontificate. But the year is 2005, not 2013. The big health-care change isn't Obamacare. It's Medicare Part D -- the prescription-drug program signed into law by George W. Bush.

    There are certainly several similarities between the launches of Medicare Part D and Obamacare. However, the hurdles needing to be surmounted to achieve success after the initial problems aren't as similar as some might suggest. Here are three huge differences between the rollout efforts of Medicare Part D and Obamacare that underscore the challenges that lie ahead now.

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    1. 1. Magnitude of technical problems
      When Medicare Part D's website first launched, Walgreen (NYSE: WAG  ) and CVS (NYSE: CVS  ) were among several big pharmacy retailers reporting significant problems. Benefits couldn't be verified for thousands of Americans through the system, which was operated by a company later acquired in November 2006 by McKesson (NYSE: MCK  ) . 
      Sounds a lot like the Obamacare exchange woes, doesn't it? The similarity only goes so far, though. NDCHealth made some changes to its system quickly to handle higher volumes. Within a couple of days, Walgreen reported that the problems weren't as bad. The Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services, or CMS, said no glitches were occurring.
      It's now been over a month since the Obamacare exchanges went live. Serious problems persist. The federal government felt the need to call in experts from across the country as part of a "tech surge" to fix the issues. But those issues aren't projected to be resolved until the end of November.  
      That wasn't the end of the story for Medicare Part D, however. After the effective date, several hundred thousand senior citizens thought they were enrolled in the program but discovered their names weren't on the government's list. It took months to straighten matters out, although actions were taken to help ensure individuals could get their prescription drugs.

      Unfortunately, the Obamacare problems seem likely to also continue well after the healthcare.gov website is fixed. According to the latest news reports, shockingly few applications actually resulted in successful enrollment. Some insurance officials estimated that as many as 99% of applications are missing key information needed for processing. Today's problems could prove much more severe than those from years ago.

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    2. 2. Importance of website to success of the program

      Surveys conducted in 2006 suggested that only around one in 10 senior citizens used the Medicare Part D website on their own to enroll. However, CMS reported that more than one-third of individuals enrolling in the prescription-drug program used the website to do so. How is that possible? The explanation is that many seniors relied on others, such as brokers and family members, to navigate the online enrollment functionality.

      Even with the higher number provided by CMS, the fact remains that most individuals didn't enroll online for Medicare Part D, at least at the beginning of the program. Although other alternatives also exist for signing up for health insurance plans, the online exchanges are critical to the success of Obamacare.

      That's true partially because of the big public-relations push for Americans to use the exchanges because they would be as simple to use as Amazon.com. The ability to compare insurance plans and shop for the one that was the best fit has always been key to the sales pitch for Obamacare. There's also a simple technical reality: Other options of enrolling, such as using insurance agents still require use of the online website.

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    3. Pages are loading in less than a second, now, and it looks like the average enrollment time is down to an hour, and falling.

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    4. 3. Incentives to sign up

      Medicare Part D launched with several incentives for seniors to enroll: new benefits they didn't have before, low premiums, and subsidies for individuals with low incomes. There was even a penalty for enrolling late -- although none for declining to enroll.

      Similar incentives are also present with Obamacare. A big difference, though, is that many individuals could find it more financially attractive to forgo insurance -- especially in the first year or two. And because the health-reform legislation didn't give the IRS any real teeth to go after those who don't want to pay the penalties, the "stick" of Obamacare probably won't look too threatening to some Americans not enticed by the "carrot" of health insurance.

      History lessons

      While the hurdles remaining related to the Obamacare launch appear more daunting than the ones facing Medicare Part D in 2006, there's still a decent chance that the issues will be successfully resolved. Obamacare could one day become as popular as Medicare Part D is now -- with a remarkably high 90% overall satisfaction score.

      Assuming that happens, we should learn yet another lesson from history. The stock performance of several of the companies in the news during the Medicare Part D implementation diverged dramatically over the next couple of years. CVS shares soared by 50%. McKesson saw its stock climb by nearly 24%. But Walgreen's stock fell 16% during the same period.

      That goes to show that not every company that on the surface should benefit from a regulatory change necessarily will. How much the benefit actually is will also vary considerably. No two companies are alike. And neither are any two complicated and controversial major expansions of government involvement in health care.

      http://www.fool.com/investing/general/2013/11/03/3-huge-differences-between-the-medicare-part-d-and.aspx

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  28. .

    In the 8 years prior to 2005, World Oil Production Increased by One Million bbls/day, Annually.

    In the 8 years since, World Oil Production has increased by One-Fifth that amount.

    Now, compare that to Global GDP Growth.


    Once more, the number '42' answer to everything. "Peak Oil" is all you need to know.

    :)

    Here is a simpler chart, also from EIA.

    http://www.eia.gov/cfapps/ipdbproject/iedindex3.cfm?tid=5&pid=53&aid=1&cid=regions&syid=2004&eyid=2012&unit=TBPD

    You will see that oil production increases over the last eight years are only 54% (not 20%) of those over the eight years prior to that period. But also note that the latter period includes periods where world GDP has dropped dramatically.

    http://www.economist.com/blogs/graphicdetail/2013/06/focus-7

    Not only has the business cycle hurt oil usage but other conservation efforts, alternative fuels, higher fuel usage standards, etc. have cut into oil consumption. US oil consumption peaked in 2007. Also, note that after the world economy tanked in 2008-2009 it started a quick come back in 2010 but has been faltering ever since. Projections for 2013 are lower still.

    The other problem is assuming that oil price rises are solely attributable to 'peak oil'. There are many other reasons, prime among them is that we are dealing with a de facto monopoly with OPEC since it sets the price for the world market for crude. Since 1973, world population went from 4 billion to 7 billion, the number of cars went from 250 million to 1 billion, and oil production from 55 mbd to 88 mbd.

    OPEC is currently supplying about the same amount of crude they did in 1973. Their share of the world market in that time span has gone from 54% to 33% percent. And the price of oil went from $13 a barrel to $100 a barrel. Some say it is because of peak oil but it is more complicated than that.

    In 1973, the Saudis said that oil at $13 per barrel was a 'fair price'. In 1980, they said that at $75 it was a 'fair price', and now they say that $100 is a fair price. A couple years ago King Abdullah was in NY in a hospital when the Arab Spring took off. He immediately headed back to Saudi Arabia and added $140 billion to the national budget. The money was used to pay off the young people in the country (90-95 % of whom do not work) in order to keep them quiet.

    This is the same problem the other OPEC countries are having (with the exception of Qatar). Saudi Arabia, Venezuela, Bahrain, etc. all need money, to buy arms, pay off the young who lack jobs, provide food. And they will do what it takes to keep the price of oil high, and even higher if need be in order to meet ever increasing budgets. There will always be crude available. It's just a matter of at what price.

    US energy independence is an illusion. All we can do is try to break the OPEC cartel's monopoly. But the US can't do it on its own. It will require a world wide effort to find alternatives.

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    1. A troy ounce of gold, $42.22 in 1973.
      A troy once of gold, $1,309.50 in 2013

      Factor of 31
      $13 x 31 = $403.

      The price of oil in 2103 is 25% the price it was in 1973, based upon the price of gold.


      http://zeenews.india.com/business/news/gold-price-today-latest-updates_88085.html
      http://www.nma.org/pdf/gold/his_gold_prices.pdf

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    2. I didn't mess with your link, Quirk, since it wasn't "clickable." However, I'm quite sure, from what you said, that your "Oil" link includes All Liquids (ie Ethanol, nat gas plant liquids, refinery gain, etc.)

      The important part of this is, you can't run a vehicle on nat gas plant liquids, refinery gain, etc.

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    3. 2103, that's a pretty nice crystal ball you got there.

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    4. The question I'd be asking myself is, "why is the growth in production falling so rapidly during a period of greatly increasing prices (oil was a bit less than ten dollars / barrel in late '99 if I remember correctly.

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    5. To hell with this first derivative shit, the American people really want to know (and deserve to know) the second derivative. The rate of increase of the rate of decrease of the rate of production is decreasing.

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    6. Now, Quirk, you might think that whole "42" stuff is cute, but it's just silly. I never said that "Everything" boils down to "Peak Oil," or "42," or anything else. But, it's nuts not to take it into consideration.

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    7. .

      Once again you assume a ladder.

      The link is simple enough to find. It's at the EIA and gives a break down of 'petroleum' production by country and, at the bottom, the world. It also gives the same info for natural gas, coal, renewables, etc. It gives it by year rather than by month.

      As far as natural gas goes, I saw a symposium on CSPAN put on by the US Energy Security Council recently. They made the point that China had tried ethanol for about as far as they could take it given their need for food and were now seriously looking at methanol as an alternative, both from NG and from coal. They have a number of regions that are trying it. A big push for the effort was the fact that people were actually mixing it on their own.

      I haven't looked up any info in follow-up, but they were saying that US carmakers were honoring warranties where it was used (no doubt another ploy to try to gain share in the Chinese market).

      .

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    8. All "American" cars have been running on an approx. 25% Ethanol mix in Brazil for a couple of decades, now.

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    9. .

      I admit you obviously have to take supply into consideration. All I have been saying is that there are a lot of factors affecting price and that supply isn't the only one. In some cases, demand or lack of it also affect the price. The OPEC countries know how much revenue they need and if demand is too low and they are selling too few barrels to meet budget, they will adjust supply to drive the price up.

      In some of these countries, it's a matter of life or death for the rulers.

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      The question I'd be asking myself is, "why is the growth in production falling so rapidly during a period of greatly increasing prices (oil was a bit less than ten dollars / barrel in late '99 if I remember correctly.

      Perhaps, I'm the simplistic one but to me it seems simple. You can't sell oil (at any price) if there is no demand for it. Demand has been dropping for the reasons we have mentioned here before. If you need X number of dollars and are not selling enough product to get X, one way to reach your target is to sell less product but at a higher price.

      .

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    11. China's agricultural capacity and that of the United States are not close to comparable.
      As goes for water resources. Quirk has posted in the past articles concerning the water shortages that are rampant in China.
      China's lack of excess agricultural capacity and it's lack of water resources are probably linked.

      The US does not suffer a similar situation. Indeed there is excess agricultural capacity in the US.
      There is agricultural capacity that the US has never begun to access or exploit.

      Hundreds of million of acres where switchgrass could be reintroduced.
      1,000 gallons of ethanol per acre.
      Biofuels from Switchgrass: Greener Energy Pastures
      https://bioenergy.ornl.gov/papers/misc/switgrs.html

      No matter the cost, that is reasonably irrelevant.
      It is a security issue.
      The United States has no other alternative, if it is going to gain independence from the economic stranglehold the Persian Gulf Arabs can hold US in. They have flexed that power, previously. Those were not good days.
      The situation in that region of the world, and all across the oil producing "Third World" of Arabia and Africa the political situation is teetering upon the brink of regional war.

      Mexican oil reserves are mismanaged and will remain that way for at least another decade.
      While internal Mexican consumption increases annually, production does not.

      Approximately 2 million barrels per day of US consumption originate in the marginally secure areas of the world.
      The costs of securing those assets, ever expanding. In both blood and treasure.

      Notice, also that as Iraqi oil production was staged to increase above 3 million barrels pr day, the al-Qeada elements stepped up the insurrection and have initiated a series of bombing attacks. The ones we read about, target civilians, the stories not told, attacks upon the oil infrastructure within Iraq.

      Then factor the reality that Iranian oil was part of the Iraqi increased production, seen in the past year.
      The supply situation is not improving.

      And it will not.
      Energy production must be internalized, in North America, for security reasons.


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  29. The chief rabbi of an extreme group of Ultra-Orthodox Jews has reportedly banned students at the sect’s yeshiva, or religious school, from eating soy because it leads to gay sex.

    Help us to understand this fatwa, WiO.

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    1. Easy.

      1. we don't have "fatwas"

      2. I'd say "you are fired"

      your silly comparisons really make me question the dozens of times you told us how smart you were.

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    2. You can't link to a single instance where I told anyone how smart I was. That's not how I roll.

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    3. Looks like a fatwa, smells like a fatwa, sounds like a fatwa.

      Call it whatever you want, it's still a fatwa.

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    4. Looks like a fatwa, smells like a fatwa, sounds like a fatwa.

      Call it whatever you want, it's still a fatwa.


      Looks like a rat, smells like a rat,

      Call it whatever you want, it's still a rat...

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    5. Teresita RedingerSun Nov 03, 03:23:00 PM EST
      You can't link to a single instance where I told anyone how smart I was. That's not how I roll.

      Please provide me with the complete and total list of the 12 or so avatars you have used in the last 4 years.

      It's so hard to remember which persona said what....

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  30. Tal vez, Teresita, que el rabbi vea esta video

    SOY GAY
    - Uploaded by ruben rodriguez
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PXhz4u9uuUw&noredirect=1

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    1. Soy un perdedor, I'm a loser baby, so why don't you kill me?

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    1. Use surgical gloves when applying to rat.

      Always: Safety First!

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  34. “It's all you think about, all you talk about,
    and all you want us to talk about.
    What in the world would we call something like that?
    Oh, yeah!
    An obsession!”

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  35. Find another way to amuse yourself. You are boring me.

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    1. wow I missed all the fun, someone else besides be got censured...

      What did he say? "Jerusalem is the Eternal capital of Israel" ????

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  36. WASHINGTON – A plea for clemency made by Edward Snowden, the National Security Agency contractor who fled to Russia after leaking classified information about surveillance methods used by the United States, was rejected by the White House as well as the heads of the top intelligence agencies in the country.

    That’s the message Obama senior adviser Dan Pfeiffer relayed on ABC’s “This Week,” adding that no such offers for clemency are being discussed and that Snowden should return to the U.S. and face charges.

    “Look, Mr. Snowden violated U.S. law,” Pfeiffer said. “Our belief has always been that he should return to the U.S. and face justice.”

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    1. Mr Pfeiffer and his cohort do not feel the same, when ....

      Italy: Convicted ex-CIA chief in Milan has been arrested
      July 18, 2013


      ROME -- A former CIA base chief in Italy who was convicted in absentia in the kidnapping of an Egyptian cleric from the streets of Milan, has been arrested, an Italian Justice Ministry official said Thursday.

      The official, who spoke on condition of anonymity, declined to say where and when Robert Seldon Lady's arrest took place.

      The Italian news agency Adnkronos quoted police in Panama as saying that Lady was taken into custody near the border with Costa Rica.[Link in Italian]

      Other Italian news outlets reported that he was arrested while entering Panama from Costa Rica and that Italian authorities now have two months to request Lady’s extradition to Italy.


      The US has not sent its Intelligence assets to Italy to face justice.
      Robert Seldon Lady has not surrendered himself to Italian authorities.

      Where is the role model that Mr Pfeiffer would like either the Russians or Mr Snowden to emulate?

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    2. Lady, the former Milan base chief, was sentenced last year by an Italian appeals court to nine years in prison in the kidnapping of the extremist cleric in 2003.

      The cleric, Hassan Mustafa Osama Nasr, also known as Abu Omar, was seized under a procedure known as “extraordinary rendition,” in which the CIA secretly detained terrorism suspects abroad and transferred them to third countries for interrogation. He was flown by the CIA to Egypt, where, he says, he was tortured, and released in 2004.

      Lady was one of 23 Americans tried for their alleged roles in the operation, all but one of them CIA officers or contractors.

      Three other Americans indicted in the case, including Jeffrey Castelli, the former CIA station chief in Rome, were given diplomatic immunity and acquitted in 2009. But this year, a Milan court vacated the acquittals and convicted them in absentia. Castelli, who works for a Los Angeles firm, PhaseOne Communications, was sentenced to seven years in prison and the other two to six years.
      ....
      In April, Italy’s president, Giorgio Napolitano, pardoned U.S. Air Force Col. Joseph L. Romano, who had been convicted of involvement in the kidnapping.

      Italy’s secret services were complicit in the operation, Italian courts found, and a former intelligence chief, Niccolo Polari, was sentenced to 10 years in prison in February. His former deputy got nine years, and three other officials got six years each. In the Italian system, the men remain free while the verdicts and sentences are appealed.


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    3. None of those 23 US government employees or contractors have surrendered to Italian authorities.

      All stand convicted of serious criminal offenses in Italy.
      None will be arrested or extradited by the US, to face Italian justice.

      Mr Lady was released by Panama.
      No updates as to his present location have been reported.

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    4. No telling when or where Mr Lady will pop up, again.
      Or even if Robert Seldon Lady was ever more than a nom de guerre.

      I do have reports of a "Salvage Operation" on the Atlantic side, the boys have left Cedar Key, heading over to Manzanillo, CR ...



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  37. Iran Leader Warns Against Undermining Negotiators
    Iran's Supreme Leader warned against undermining negotiators engaged in talks with the West.


    TEHRAN, Iran—Iran’s Supreme Leader warned Sunday against undermining negotiators engaged in talks with the West, a message directed apparently at hard-liners who have criticized Iran’s diplomacy over its nuclear program.

    The remarks by Ayatollah Ali Khamenei were his latest show of support for President Hasan Rouhani’s policy of outreach to the West. They come ahead of a new round of talks scheduled for Thursday in Geneva.

    Diplomats “are on a difficult mission and nobody should weaken those who are on assignment,” the official IRNA news agency quoted Mr. Khamenei, who has final say on all matters of state, as telling a group of students.

    “Nobody should consider our negotiators as compromise-seekers,” Mr. Khamenei said. Iranian officials maintain that the country won’t concede what it considers to be its fundamental right to nuclear activity.

    Hard-liners have accused diplomats of being overly optimistic and keeping details of the talks secret.

    Mr. Khamenei said the nuclear talks with world powers, five permanent members of the United Nations Security Council plus Germany, will be limited to the nuclear issue. Hard-liners have also criticized Mr. Rouhani for pursuing broader rapprochement, and took particular exception to a short September phone call between him and U.S. President Barack Obama aimed at ending over three decades of estrangement between the countries.

    Mr. Khamenei criticized Washington for repeating its threats against Iran’s nuclear facilities.

    “On one hand, the Americans smile and show interest in talks, but on the other hand they immediately say all options are on the table,” Mr. Khamenei was quoted as saying by state TV.


    http://stream.wsj.com/story/latest-headlines/SS-2-63399/SS-2-371874/

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  38. Tampa Bay 21
    Seattle Seasquaks 7

    End of 1st half

    Might turn into a really good game.

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  39. Great news! Iran just offered to delay opening it's heavy water plant in Arak as a gesture of good will!

    Will WONDERS ever cease?

    The pause should be 6-10 years. Gee thanks Obama.




    Mystery explosion at Iran’s Arak heavy water reactor

    A mysterious blast which last week struck the heavy water reactor under construction at Arak in western Iran is revealed here for the first time by DEBKAfile’s exclusive sources. They estimate it occurred in the coolant containers and pressure gauges attached to the reactor’s core during preparations for a test. The full extent of the damage is not yet known, but it is believed heavy enough to indefinitely delay the reactor’s operation. Iranian nuclear experts are looking at four possible causes, including sabotage and a virus in the computers operating its system

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  40. Rufus commenting that israel provide emergency medical services for the palestinians:

    My only question might be: If we're going to pay for Israelicare for Palestinians, shouldn't we also make it available to poor Americans?


    Then he clarifies:

    So, let me rephrase; if we are going to pay for Universal Healthcare for Rich Israelis, perhaps we should also provide the same for Poor Americans.


    Interesting how his mind works...

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    1. End the OccupationSun Nov 03, 06:57:00 PM EST

      Sure, the per capita GDP of Israel, just below that of Idaho, which is 49th out of 50, in terms of per capita GDP in the US.
      So, in real terms, a "rich" Israeli is a "poor" American.

      Now, you have to realize there are only 1.6 million people in Idaho.
      Poor, rural, and not to tech savy, those folk in Idaho.
      They celebrate losing, in Idaho, so it's hard to get them motivated to higher earning.

      But, yeah, even so the people of Idaho are contributing their fair share to the $500 the US gifts to each Israeli, every year.
      Plus the gifts to the ghettoized Palestinians in the Occupied Territories.

      All accrue the Israel account.

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    2. Israel has Universal coverage (covers Rich, and poor.) . We contribute to Israel. ergo: We contribute to Healthcare for Rich and poor Israelis.

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    3. I would prefer to see all Americans covered, First.

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    4. Exactly, if Mr Truman had known ...
      That a substantial part of the funding for Universal Health Care in the US was spent on subsidizing Israel, for over forty years and ad infinitum.
      He might have followed the "Professionals" advice.

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    5. “Millions of our citizens do not now have a full measure of opportunity to achieve and to enjoy good health. Millions do not now have protection or security against the economic effects of sickness. And the time has now arrived for action to help them attain that opportunity and to help them get that protection.”

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    6. “If a free society cannot help the many who are poor, it cannot save the few who are rich.”

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    7. Interesting how his mind doesn't work.

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    8. Rufus IISun Nov 03, 07:05:00 PM EST
      Israel has Universal coverage (covers Rich, and poor.) . We contribute to Israel. ergo: We contribute to Healthcare for Rich and poor Israelis.


      Ergo America kills Israelis thru abortions each and every year.

      Will America stop murdering Jews?

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    9. Rufus IISun Nov 03, 07:12:00 PM EST
      I would prefer to see all Americans covered, First.

      So you measure and weigh ever and all monies spent by the US treasuries by that yard stick or do you reserve your anger at JUST aid spent to ensure a safe Israel?

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  41. I have never been able to see any correlation between the Israeli health care system and military aid. Much of the aid, like the new helmet for F-35 pilots is coming back to the US by way of a joint Israeli-American partnership. The use of "Rich Israelis" does clue me into motive, however.

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    1. I would say there are two reasons, well, three for mentioning Israel when Health Care is discussed.

      First, the aid money that the US provides Israel is fungible.
      Whether the Israeli built their own plane or buys US, they were buying/building planes.

      If the US did not provide the funding, it would come fro some other part of the Israeli government's budget.
      The US provides for 4% of the Israeli government budget.
      The fungibility of the funds leaves the US funding 4% of every Israeli program.
      A sizable subsidy.

      The City of Detroit could have used a $500 per resident subsidy.
      It would have amounted to $350 million dollars.
      For schools, police and fire protection, rather than bombs and bullets for Israel to drop on Gaza or Lebanon.

      Second, our contributor quot tells US, repeatedly, how successful Israel is.
      We would like to acknowledge that.
      It is evident that due to Israeli economic success, that the US does not NEED to finance Israel, and Israel does not NEED the US aid.
      The people of Israel are a rich and smart, they are a successful sovereign, socialist state.

      Third. Mitt Romney, past Republican candidate for President went to Israel and PRAISED their Health Care deliver system.
      Anything that impresses Mitt Romney should be investigated, found out about, studied and discussed even further and then, perhaps, emulated across the entirety of the United States of America.

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  42. Seattle Seasqawks 27
    Tampa Bay 24

    In overtime.

    Good game to watch.

    Think I spotted Miss T in the crowd, computer on lap, umbrella at the ready.

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  43. What is "Occupation"Sun Nov 03, 05:53:00 PM EST
    wow I missed all the fun, someone else besides be got censured...

    What did he say? "Jerusalem is the Eternal capital of Israel" ????

    I took rat apart, WiO. Deuce lets rat say anything at all about me, but when I take his pet apart I get censored.

    I have lost a lot of respect for Deuce, though he is far above rat.

    He is not sailing a fair ship here though.

    He deleted Hegelian Dialectic's comment too.

    rat has 'special privileges here.

    He can continue to subtly, or not so subtly, threaten with the Fudd Hunter crap, for instance.

    He enables the rodent.

    Deuce doesn't seem to care.

    It was a wonderfully put together comment, I worked hard on it. Humorous too.

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    1. My comment had the added plus that everything said was true, except the part about rat being born from an acne infected petri dish, and I specifically said I was speaking metaphorically there.

      :)

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    2. rat calls me a fucking fascist farmer day after day, a misogynist who raped his own daughter,,,,always stays up......

      One standard for everybody else, WiO, another standard for you and I......

      I'd much rather be associated in the minds of the folks with you, WiO, rather than with Deuce or rat.

      :)

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    3. I'm gonna find another football game to watch.

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    4. Where on your letter head does it say ...

      . . . . . Farmer Fudd . . . . .

      Every post I have seen, all there is to see, with regards to authorship is "Anonymous".

      When did you become Farmer Fudd?
      Is that a permanent part of your identity, now?

      Would you sign on to a Google Account, in that name, if one was provided to you?
      Would you publicly acknowledge that you are Farmer Fudd?

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  44. We do not trade Israeli health care for an identical unit of American health care, ergo there is no fungibility.

    Fungibility is different from liquidity. A good is liquid if it can be easily exchanged for money or another different good. A good is fungible if one unit of the good is substantially equivalent to another unit of the same good of the same quality at the same time and place.

    Fungibility does not imply liquidity, and liquidity does not imply fungibility. Diamonds can be readily bought and sold (the trade is liquid) but individual diamonds, being unique, are not interchangeable (diamonds are not fungible). Indian rupee bank notes are mutually interchangeable in London (they are fungible there) but they are not easily traded there (they cannot be spent in London). In contrast to diamonds, gold coins of the same grade and weight are fungible, as well as liquid.

    Definition of 'Fungibility'
    A good or asset's interchangeability with other individual goods/assets of the same type. Assets possessing this property simplify the exchange/trade process, as interchangeability assumes that everyone values all goods of that class as the same.
    Many diverse types of assets are considered to be fungible. For example, specific grades of commodities, such as No.2 yellow corn, are fungible because it does not matter where the corn was grown - all corn designated as No.2 yellow corn is worth the same amount.
    Cross-listed stocks are considered fungible as well because it doesn't matter if you purchased a share of XYZ stock in its home country or in a foreign country; it should be accepted at either location as XYZ stock

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    1. The fungibility of US aid to Israel is not, and no one ever claimed to be between the US and Israel.

      Oh, NO!

      The fungibility is within Israel.
      The US funds 4% of every Israeli government expenditure

      So every Israeli project is funded by US dollars, to some extent, a 4% extent.
      The Israeli System works so well, we want to know why,, how and emulate in the US.

      Your entire thesis is misdirected, didn't even read it, as your primary assertion was so far off the mark.

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  45. money is fungible—money that is raised for one purpose can easily be used for another

    The Israelis are not raising the $3 Billion. The US is providing the money to be used by the Israelis for specific purposes. Were the US to make the aid open ended, then fungibility would apply.

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    2. Correct allen, but that US money is money the Israeli government does not have to spend.
      That it would have had to have spent, if not for the US Aid.

      So it creates "fungible funds" with the Israeli government budget.
      The 4% of the Israeli government budget spent on defense material acquisitions that the US funds, is not drained from other parts of the budget.
      Instead the 4% is available to the government, to spread across the Israeli government's other expenditures.

      That is what is being described when the US Aid is described as "fungible".
      It allows the Israeli the opportunity to spend money they would have spent on bombs for operations in Syria, on Health Care, instead.
      $4 billion per year, pumped into the Israeli economy, because it is not drawn off, to France to buy Mirage-2000s, unsubsidized.

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  46. http://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/mideast/RL33222.pdf

    U.S. Foreign Aid to Israel
    Jeremy M. Sharp
    Specialist in Middle Eastern Affairs
    April 11, 2013

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