“Soft despotism is a term coined by Alexis de Tocqueville describing the state into which a country overrun by "a network of small complicated rules" might degrade. Soft despotism is different from despotism (also called 'hard despotism') in the sense that it is not obvious to the people."

Monday, October 02, 2017

Murder and Mayhem in Mass Shooting in Las Vegas - At Least 20 Dead


  1. More than 20 people were killed and more than 100 injured in a mass shooting during an open-air music festival in Las Vegas, near the Mandalay Bay Resort and Casino on Sunday night.

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    1. The suspected gunmen in the Las Vegas shooting has been identified as 64-year-old Stephen Paddock from Mesquite, NV, according to NBC News

  3. Time for a ban on Americans?


  4. Five dead after Greensboro deputy tries to stop stolen vehicle
    by Elizabeth Tyree

    GREENSBORO, N.C. (WSET) -- Five people were killed Saturday night after police said a deputy tried to stop a stolen vehicle in Greensboro.

    Police said a patrol officer spotted the suspicious vehicle, which turned out to be stolen from Greensboro.

    They said the officer activated his lights as the car proceeded south on Battleground Ave. and was about one-quarter mile behind the suspect, when the driver accelerated to a high rate of speed and ran a red light.

    Police said a car crossing at the time the suspect vehicle ran a red light was hit by the stolen vehicle.

    The people in both vehicles were killed.

  5. Hopefully thus won't distract Trump from important things like making the NFL great again.

    1. Ash, try to tip your servers and other service people today, for a change. Try for 20%. It won't kill you.

    2. You keep bringing up cheap Canadian tippers. Obviously you work in the service trade. A waiter?

    3. I have owned restaurants, Ash. Trust me when I tell you waiters dodge Canadians sitting at their tables. Generally speaking, they eat 2 thirds of the food served them, then send it back complaining. Then don't tip, or tip less than 10%. You resemble the remark.

      It is so common, A Canadian or Canadians is a code word in the restaurant business for a non or cheap tipper. You resemble the remark.

    4. If you don't believe me Google it. Or better yet, MOMEpedia it. :-)


  6. ‘Boom, boom, boom, boom’: Shooting in downtown Lawrence leaves three dead, two injured

    The Kansas City Star


  7. Violent night in Baton Rouge: Five shootings leave two dead, four injured, authorities say

  8. The Sheriff says there were at least 50 dead, in Vegas

  9. .

    Listening to the story of this shooting on the radio this morning, I heard that if you consider a mass shooting 4 or more people shot there have already been 273 mass shootings in the US this year.


    1. Yet to the mensas here think Muslims are the problem.

    2. Islam is the ideology, jihad is the problem.
      Muslims are the carrier of that virus.
      There is only one true religion.
      Can you name it?

    3. Truth is God.
      Now go forth and conquer.

    4. .

      Can you name it?

      Ask a dozen people from a dozen different religions and you will get the same answer, mine.


    5. Ash could not be more delighted.


  10. Sky News understands Marilou Danley, the girlfriend of the Las Vegas shooter, is an Australian.

    She holds an Australian passport and it's thought she could originally be from Indonesia.

    Reporter Danya Bacchus told Sky News police have made contact with Danley, and she is not involved in the shooting in 'any type of way'.

    US records show Danley lived with Paddock in a three-year-old, $US396,000 ($A506,642) two- bedroom home in the tiny desert community of Mesquite, 128km northeast of Las Vegas near the Arizona state border.


  11. 58 dead

    The shooter was one of us
    A member of the tribe

    Not an outsider
    Not one of them

    The silence tells a tale
    In and of itself


  12. JAZZ SHAWPosted at 8:01 am on October 2, 2017

    Duane Patterson was up early covering this horrendous, cowardly attack from the west coast but the updates show that it was far worse than originally reported. The last update from local law enforcement tells us that the dead number more than fifty and the injured more than 200. That’s more than San Bernardino, more than Bunny Friend Park, more than the Waco biker gang shootout, more than the Pulse nightclub. NBC News is reporting that, at least for now, multiple law enforcement agencies have buttoned down the scene and are hopeful that it is over, and the shooter, 64-year-old Stephen Paddock, is indeed dead. But so many questions remain to be answered.

    SEE ALSO: President Trump’s statement on the Vegas shooting: ‘It was an act of pure evil’

    More than 50 people were killed in the worst mass shooting in modern American history when a “lone wolf” gunman opened fire into an outdoor country music festival from the 32nd floor of Las Vegas’ Mandalay Bay Resort and Casino on Sunday night, police said.

    More than 200 people were injured in the mass shooting as performer Jason Aldean was on the stage, Sheriff Joseph Lombardo said at a news conference.

    The gunman was identified by law enforcement officials as 64-year-old Stephen Paddock, a resident of Mesquite, Nevada.

    Police responded to reports of the shooting just after 10 p.m. (1 a.m. ET), and the suspect was fatally shot in the Mandalay Bay Resort, officials said.

    Authorities found several weapons in Paddock’s hotel room, law enforcement officials reported. It was not immediately clear what kinds of weapons were located.
    If you’re not near a television, here’s some of the latest updates from the scene.

    Did the Vegas shooter use a fully automatic weapon?

    It will no doubt take time for authorities to piece all of this together, but if there’s one saving grace in all of this it’s that Las Vegas was, as usual, swarming with law enforcement from across federal, state and local levels. They were able to quickly mobilize, locate the shooter and eliminate him, but sadly not until he’d done massive damage.

    Among the questions we’ll need to answer is where Paddock got a fully automatic weapon. Listening to the videos recorded during the shooting, that wasn’t a semiautomatic being fired quickly. That was fully automatic fire. Paddock was also not firing like someone with military training, where you learn to release short, controlled bursts of a few rounds. He was holding down the trigger and emptying the magazine, then reloading.

    It’s possible that Paddock, being in his sixties, could have had a grandfathered permit to legally own such a weapon or even held one of the rare permits which are still available today. Other possibilities are that it was illegally obtained on the black market or even one that he modified himself from a semiautomatic rifle. Once we learn the answer to that question we’ll have a better idea of how much planning went into this. It clearly doesn’t look to be a spur of the moment thing, but then again, breaking out a window more than thirty floors up and opening fire on a packed audience doesn’t involve a lot of logistics.

    The other big question is, of course, why? Paddock doesn’t fit the typical profile of most mass shooters. He doesn’t appear on paper to be someone who would be linked to international terrorism. He’s also far, far older than your average shooter. And a country music concert also doesn’t seem to fit the profile of a target of interest. More likely it was simply a convenient crowd with a lot of targets.

  13. While early information is frequently incorrect, NBC is reporting that people who knew the shooter said that he was in the process of (or recently concluded) divorcing his wife. (Not the “roommate” they took into custody.) It’s possible that this was a domestic crisis gone terribly, terribly wrong and Paddock had simply lost it. As I said, it’s still far too early to pin that down.

    Our prayers go out to the families of the deceased and the wounded. Paddock’s cowardly act will mark one of the darker days in our history.

    UPDATE: (8:40) Fox News is reporting that Paddock had set up video to let him know when the cops were approaching his room. He was dead when they entered the room, apparently having killed himself. Also, they were able to locate the room he was shooting from so quickly because the shooter fired so many rounds that the smoke detectors in the room went off.

    UPDATE: (9:30) Another detail emerges. The shooter had ten or more rifles in the hotel room. That adds a new wrinkle to the questions about the logistics involved. The police still aren’t saying whether he used them all, but if he did use most of them, why? Did he feel the need to have them all lined up, empty one and pick up the next? Given the effort to lug that many rifles up to the room, assuming you have access to all this equipment, why not just bring one rifle and a dozen magazines? Perhaps you could see bringing two in case one jams, but ten simply makes no sense. As I said above, still far more questions than answers.

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    1. Petty played with the 'Greats'

      And was great, himself

    2. .

      Didn't know much about his personal life but I liked his music.


    3. He ain't dead.........yet.

    4. A good “go to” for news. :-)

  15. For all the assholes , taking smug satisfaction in Stephen Paddock's tribe;

    Paddock was living with Marilou Danley. Marilou Danley had been married to Geary Danley.

    Geary Danley was an Antifa supporter, a violent Trump hater, and a registered Democrat.

    This information was available on his FB page until it was closed this morning. Did they share similar political views?

    This was a Country Western event taking place, i.e white Christian conservatives and Republicans.

    Was this political?

    Paddock seems remarkably similar to the shooter, 66-year-old James T. Hodgkinson, who wanted to kill a field load of Republicans. Hodgkinson also.died from injuries sustained when he was shot by police.

    Is there a connection?

    You better reserve some of that cheap glee that you are pouring.

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    2. .

      Stephen Paddock's tribe?

      What sick a-holes?

      This information was available on his FB page until it was closed this morning. Did they share similar political views?

      Or didn't they? Who the fuck knows? And if they did share the same political views, that means...?

      This was a Country Western event taking place, i.e white Christian conservatives and Republicans.

      Right. Even though country western is one of the most popular music genre in the US, if you're not white, conservative, and Rupublican, please do not listen. Charlie Pride would be turning over in his grave if he wasn't still alive. I suppose this excludes the Deuce also, him being an atheist and all.

      Paddock and Hodgkinson? Is there a connection? Maybe they are both from the same tribe, those damn sick a-holes? They do sound like immigrants though. Paddock sounds like he might be from Kentucky, always questionable. Hell, Rand Paul is a senator from Kentucky. Worse, they could be liberals. Their names sounds pretty liberal and Paddock wore a beard like some liptard professor. Sure, why not.

      Same ol sam ol.


  16. Last nite I read there were 2 killed in Las Vegas, now Deuce say 20, what's up with that?

  17. MOME Mon Oct 02, 05:41:00 PM EDT

    If you don't believe me Google it. Or better yet, MOMEpedia it. :-)


    Alaskans and Canadians come to Maui by the bucketloads in winter.

    Alaskans are known as Alaskans, Canadians are know as cheap non-tipping assholes.

  18. In his hotel room, the suspect had at least 20 rifles, two on tripods at the windows, and hundreds of rounds of ammunition, an official said.


    Maybe the hotel should draft a rule against dozens of rifles and tripods.


    1. ...people carrying people in wheelbarrows:

      "Hey, we need your truck to take these people to the hospital.

      Ok, just put them in the back."

    2. Put them ALL in the back.

    3. Sorry, video is from the front page of the NY Times.

    4. Hollywood hadn't yet come up with hundreds of people in wheelbarrows, on ladders, and in the back of trucks yet, far as I know.

    5. Gunsmoke

      Fire alarm from gun smoke led police to shooter's room.

  19. Paddy had gambled all his money away and got even.

    Had criminality in his genes, too.

    His daddy was on the most wanted list, a nutcase.

    1. All fits together -

      'HE SNAPPED'...

    2. “You’re All Going To Die Tonight”: Who Was The Strange Woman At The Vegas Concert Before The Shooting Started?
      ALLAHPUNDITPosted at 5:21 pm on October 2, 2017

      Has there been any update on this exceedingly odd clip since it started making the rounds online last night? I can’t find any police statements about it even though it seems like an astounding coincidence that some woman was warning concertgoers they were all going to die less than an hour before the worst mass shooting in American history.

      The first, presumptive explanation in a case like this is “hoax,” but I don’t get a hoax vibe from the clip. The eyewitness’s full name is out there; she doesn’t seem drunk, and at one point momentarily appears to be on the verge of tears. She was apparently at the concert with her mom, not with a group of friends whom she might have been inclined to “impress” by making something up to get on TV.

      The mystery woman who was supposedly telling people they were about to die wasn’t Marilou Danley, Stephen Paddock’s “companion,” though. That was the assumption when this clip went viral, that Danley was in on the whole thing and couldn’t resist taunting the concertgoers beforehand that they were marked for death. But Danley’s been cleared by Las Vegas police. She wasn’t even in the country. And when you watch the clip, you’ll see that the eyewitness claims that there was a man with the mystery woman — Hispanic, not white, as Paddock was. Were there really three people involved in this murder plot? C’mon.

      The Daily Mail appears to have interviewed the eyewitness, as the quote here doesn’t precisely match what she says in the clip below. It also gives you a better sense of exactly what went on with the mystery woman who was threatening people:


      Brianna Hendricks, who is in Vegas celebrating her 21st birthday, said: ‘There was a lady who came running up behind us in the concert and she started to play with people’s hair acting crazy and she told us that we’re all going to f***ing die.

      ‘She said they’re all around us and we were going to die.

      ‘She was Hispanic, probably about 5ft 5, brown hair. It felt like she had knowledge of what was about to happen, her and her boyfriend who was also Hispanic.

      ‘The woman was saying her boyfriend couldn’t breath so they could get through the crowd. It seemed she was telling us to either warn us or she was part of it and she was telling us because she knew we were going to die, it was so scary.’

      Hendricks never mentions the detail about the woman acting crazy and playing with people’s hair or babbling about “them” being “all around us” in the interview with the reporter below. That makes it sound like the mystery woman was off her nut, possibly high on God knows what drug (it’s Vegas, after all), and paranoid. If she was annoying people by harassing them and they started yelling for security to kick her out, she might have gotten angry and threatened them. It really might have been nothing more than an amazing coincidence.


      According to Hendricks, security officers did come and escort the woman out. Assuming they’ve already been interviewed by police, which is a safe assumption, what are we to make of the fact that Las Vegas police hasn’t issued a BOLO for a Hispanic couple matching Hendricks’s description? They must have concluded it was a coincidence too.

    3. Shooter had gambling debts is my hunch....

  20. Tasteful quote of the week:

    BILL O'REILLY: Mass murder the 'price of freedom'...

  21. Obesity Was Already Rising in Ghana. Then Came KFC.

    The growing popularity of fried chicken and pizza in parts of Africa underscores how fast food is changing habits and expanding waistlines.

  22. CBS fires lawyer for calling country fans 'Republican gun-toters'

  23. Damn: forgot about construction at RR crossing in Truckee;

    Looks like they're almost done:

    1. Should have a back up function like Cayucoscam.

  24. Video here by a moron on the ground as the gunfire goes on.

    1. Sounds more like full auto than semiautomatic.

  25. Tom Petty, the rocker best known as the frontman of Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers, is clinging to life in a Los Angeles hospital, according to TMZ. An earlier report which confirmed the singer's death, and which CBS reported, has since been clarified. CBS News reported information obtained officially from the LAPD about Tom Petty. The LAPD later said it was not in a position to confirm information about the singer and that "initial information was inadvertently provided to some media sources." In that statement, the LAPD also apologized for "any inconvenience in this reporting."

  26. October 2, 2017
    Motive still a mystery in Las Vegas mass shooting
    By Rick Moran

    The motive of the shooter behind the deadliest mass shooting in U.S. history is unknown as of this writing. What is known is that at least 50 people are dead and more than 400 were wounded in an attack on a country music concert directly below the Mandalay Bay hotel and casino in Las Vegas.

    The gunman, Stephen Paddock, checked into the hotel on September 28 and managed to bring 10 rifles and thousands of rounds of ammunition into his room on the 32nd floor. He reportedly set up two shooting platforms in the room, shot out the windows, and began to pour automatic weapon fire into the 22,000 concertgoers below. Just as SWAT was about to break into his room, he apparently killed himself. At least three long bursts of weapons fire were heard from his sniper perch, leading to the unprecedented carnage.

    Who was he?

    Las Vegas Review Journal:

    "There is no reason we can imagine why Stephen would do something like this," his brother said. "All we can do is send our condolences to the people who died. Just no reason, no warning."

    The younger Paddock repeatedly described his brother as "just a guy" with no serious health or money problems.

    "As far as we knew, he had enough money to live the rest of his life in comfort," he said.

    Paddock said he was on the phone all morning with Las Vegas police trying to figure out what happened.

    "We're lost," he said. "We don't get it. This is like someone else did this."

    Paddock said his brother lived a quiet life in retirement in Las Vegas, frequently playing slot machines and video poker on the Strip.

    The last time the two brothers talked was a couple of weeks ago, when Stephen called to see how their mother was doing after Hurricane Irma swept through Orlando, he said.

    Paddock said he was surprised to learn that his older brother had a cache of guns at his Mandalay Bay hotel room.

    "He might have had a gun or two, but he didn't have a huge stock of guns," Paddock said.

    The older Paddock bought a home in Mesquite in January 2015 for $369,000. His girlfriend, Marilou Danley, once considered a person of interest in the shooting investigation, lived with him in the 2,018-square-foot home, records show.

    Court records show that Paddock does not have a criminal record in Las Vegas.

    If Paddock snapped because of some mental illness, it didn't affect his ability to carefully plan the attack. Each element of his planning was apparently meticulous, down to reportedly using cameras to record his attack and tell him when the police were about ready to break into his room.

    So, a rational act? Not necessarily. He may have been severely delusional. In such a mental state, he could have justified his actions while rationally planning the massacre.

    I'm sure we'll find out more about Paddock over the next few days and weeks. But at this point, there doesn't appear to be anything political that motivated him or any kind of obvious mental infirmity that led to his inexplicable and violent act.

  27. Definitely full auto:

  28. Brother:

  29. Couldn't have happened in a more caring, compassionate city.

    1. Just take a look at the unclaimed bodies resting in the Vegas morgue, for instance. Hundreds, yet the City of Vegas cares for them, well, for a while......

    2. Some have bullet holes, most have needle marks.....none seem to have relatives.....

  30. October 2, 2017
    China openly discussing collapse of North Korea

    By Thomas Lifson

    China has sent an unmistakable signal that Kim Jong-un had better not rely on the historic alliance between China and North Korea to resist President Trump's demands. In fact, as he dallies with his troop of teen sex slaves, he had better keep in mind that Beijing is wondering what it might be like with the Kim dynasty out of the way.

    The Chinese way of delivering such a harsh message is to use a third party – preferably one without a policy role, but who clearly speaks for the ruling elite. Someone, for instance, like the dean of international studies at Beijing University (the Harvard, Yale, Princeton, and Stanford of China).

    Patrick Baert of AFP writes:

    Jia Qingguo, dean of the School of International Studies at Peking University, raised eyebrows earlier in September when he published an article entitled: "Time to prepare for the worst in North Korea".

    The paper was published in English in East Asia Forum, a website of the Australian National University, but it is unlikely that he could have released it without the approval of Chinese authorities.

    Jia urged Beijing to start discussing contingency plans with the United States and South Korea -- talks that the two nations have sought in the past but China has resisted for fear of upsetting Pyongyang.

    "When war becomes a real possibility, China must be prepared. And, with this in mind, China must be more willing to consider talks with concerned countries on contingency plans," Jia wrote.

    This comparatively mild language is telling KJU that in a war, China might not be on the North Korean side.

    Observers say the public debate might be a tactic to try and coerce Pyongyang into cooling its weapons programme, with its nuclear and missile tests visibly angering Beijing, which has backed tough new United Nations sanctions on the country.

    But it may also indicate growing calls to overhaul its relationship with the North, a longterm ally that it defended during the 1950-53 Korean War and has a mutual defence pact with.

    Yalu River bridges from China into North Korea at Dandong, Liaoning Province.

    1. As most readers know, the Korean War never ended. So an "overhaul" of the relationship could only mean weakening or abandoning the alliance and allowing the war to be fought to completion – without Beijing backing Pyongyang in the fighting. Even raising this possibility, indirectly and via a scholarly journal published in English, is calculated to let Kim know he could be on his own.

      This could indicate a shift in the tectonic plates of China's geostrategy:

      But there are also signs of a genuine shift in perceptions over how China should handle North Korea.

      David Kelly, director of research at Beijing-based consultancy China Policy, said the thinking among Chinese academics was: "We could do better without them, a unified Korea would be incredibly good for China, the northeast would boom".

      China has long supported North Korea because it serves as a buffer from US troops stationed in South Korea, but Barthelemy Courmont, a China specialist at the Institute of Strategic and International Relations in Paris, said Pyongyang's downfall could be good for Beijing, especially economically.

      "China now believes that a collapse of North Korea would not necessarily be to its disadvantage," Courmont said.

      "If North Korea were to fall in a peaceful way, China would be best positioned for its reconstruction. China is the only country capable of overseeing the reconstruction of North Korea," he said.

      This has to be related to the current "conflict" between SecState Tillerson and President Trump that has progs reveling in what they see as amateur hour. The New York Times:

      President Trump undercut his own secretary of state on Sunday, calling his effort to open lines of communication with North Korea a waste of time, and seeming to rule out a diplomatic resolution to the nuclear-edged confrontation with Pyongyang.

      A day after Secretary of State Rex W. Tillerson said he was reaching out to Pyongyang in hopes of starting a new dialogue, Mr. Trump belittled the idea and left the impression that he was focused mainly on military options. Mr. Trump was privately described by advisers as furious at Mr. Tillerson for contradicting the president's public position that now is not the time for talks.

      This sounds more like good cop/bad cop than outright conflict. As with President Reagan, Trump is regarded as a bit of a madman, who might just start a nuclear war. Even Kim Jong-un understands that North Korea cannot win such a conflict. But now, the old passivity and delay that characterized American policy toward North Korea for the past three decades is over.

      If (and it is a big if) China switches over to a policy of Korean reunification and dumps the embarrassment in Pyongyang, it would be an achievement of President Trump that echoes Nixon opening relations with China and Reagan wining the Cold War.

  31. Investigators are working to determine if Paddock modified the AK-47 with mechanical components to make it fully automatic, which is illegal, or if he used a legal modification like an attachable crank, which depresses the trigger faster than a finger and can be bought online for as little as $40.

  32. Florida nutjobs back in the news on Maui.

  33. CBS fires VP for writing 'Republican gun toters' killed in Las Vegas don't deserve sympathy

    CBS Legal Exec: No Sympathy For Vegas 'Because Country Music Fans Often Are Republican'

  34. It never ends with this Kushner fellow, and his ever growing forgetfulness

    Hundreds of White House emails sent to third Kushner family account

    White House officials are reviewing a third email account associated with Ivanka Trump and Jared Kushner’s private email domain.