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Sunday, September 25, 2016

Turkish Immigrant, with a previous record for assault, arrested for the shooting and murder in Washington Mall

Washington mall shooting suspect named as teenage victim's mother speaks

Police name suspect in shooting deaths of five people at Cascade Mall in Burlington as Washington resident Arcan Cetin, aged 20

Washington mall shooting suspect Arcan Cetin
Arcan Cetin has been detained over a shooting at a mall in Burlington, Washington, in which five people died. Photograph: HANDOUT/Reuters

The suspect in a shooting at a Washington state mall that left five dead is in custody, authorities said on Saturday, as the identity of one of the victims, a teenager, emerged.

The suspect was identified as Arcan Cetin of Oak Harbor, Washington, a 20-year-old who had emigrated from Turkey.

Cetin was “kind of zombie-like” and said nothing during his arrest, said Island County Sheriff’s Lieutenant Mike Hawley, who spotted him during a patrol of Oak Harbor after a tipoff. Cetin was unarmed.

He had a previous arrest for simple assault and was a legal, permanent US resident, said Lieutenant Chris Cammock of Mount Vernon police at a news conference Saturday night.

A gunman opened fire at the Cascade mall in Burlington, Washington, on Friday night, killing four females and a male before fleeing. Law enforcement staged a massive search over more than 20 hours for the suspect, initially described by witnesses as a young Hispanic male wearing black.

The Seattle Times reported that one of the victims was a 16-year-old girl, Sarai Lara.

Her mother said she had survived cancer as a young girl and was a happy student.
Evangelina Lara told the newspaper she was shopping on Friday night at the mall in Burlington with Sarai and her younger sister, but they split up. She said Sarai went to Macy’s looking for pants.

Evangelina Lara said it was confirmed at 2am on Saturday that her daughter was among the five people killed.

On Friday at the mall, the first 911 call came in just before 7 pm: a man with a rifle was shooting at people in the Macy’s department store.

Five dead in Washington state shopping centre shooting attack

When police arrived moments later, the carnage at the Macy’s makeup counter was complete. Four people were dead and the shooter was gone, last seen walking toward Interstate 5. A fifth victim, a man, died early on Saturday as police finished sweeping the building, which measures 434,000 square feet (40,300 sq meters).
Burlington’s mayor, Steve Sexton, said on Saturday: “There are people waking up this morning, and their world has changed forever. The city of Burlington has probably changed forever, but I don’t think our way of life needs to change.
“This was a senseless act. It was the world knocking on our doorstep, and it came into our little community.”

As the small city absorbed the tragic news, critical questions remained, including the identity of the shooter and his motive. The FBI said terrorism was not suspected.

Surveillance video captured the suspect entering the mall unarmed and then recorded him about 10 minutes later entering the Macy’s with a “hunting type” rifle in his hand, Mount Vernon police Lieutenant Chris Cammock said.
Authorities did not say how the suspect might have obtained the weapon – whether he retrieved it from outside or picked it up in the mall – but they believe he acted alone. The weapon was recovered at the scene.

The identities of the victims four women who ranged in age from a teenager to a senior citizen were withheld pending autopsies and notification of family. The identity of the man who was fatally shot was also withheld and may not be released until Monday.

“Probably one of the most difficult moments for us last night was knowing that there were family members wondering about their loved ones in there,” Mount Vernon police lieutenant Chris Cammock said.

Residents gathered on Saturday to comfort each other at a community gathering in a city park.

“It’s too scary. It’s too close to home,” said Maria Elena Vasquez, who attended the gathering with her husband and two young children.

Joanne Burkholder, 19, of nearby Mount Vernon, was watching the movie The Magnificent Seven in the mall’s theater when security guards came in and told them to evacuate immediately. Dozens of panicked moviegoers gathered in the hallway, and Burkholder heard screaming as the officers escorted them to safety in a parking lot.

As she drove home later, she had to pull over because she was shaking so hard, she said.

“I’m just very thankful for my life this morning. I’ve never been so terrified in my life,” she said on Saturday, trying to hold back tears as she attended the community vigil.

“You’d think it would happen in Everett or Seattle, but a small town of Burlington, I’d never dream something like this would happen.”

People who believed they may have lost loved ones were being sequestered at a church three blocks from the mall, where counselors and a golden retriever therapy dog were present.

Dozens of people attended a Saturday evening prayer service for the victims. The gathering was held at Central United Methodist church in nearby Sedro-Woolley, Washington.

The Rev. Cody Natland lit five candles on a table in front of the church, one for each victim.

The Cascade mall is an enclosed shopping mall that opened in 1990. It features JC Penney, TJ Maxx, and Macy’s stores, among other shops, restaurants and a movie theater.


  1. He had a previous arrest for simple assault and was a legal, permanent US resident, said Lieutenant Chris Cammock of Mount Vernon police at a news conference Saturday night.

    Give Trump two more points in the polls.

  2. In October 2014, Cetin was added as a defendant in a domestic violence-related case – however, he was ultimately not convicted. At the time a judge was told Cetin was just over 18 and has no place to go. Also that month, Cetin was told not to possess firearms. The court was told it was not clear were Cetin would be staying.

    A formal no-contact order was entered for each parent, according to court records.

    Court records also show his dad called – and that call was referred to the prosecutor’s office – saying Cetin’s uncle was not willing to let him stay at his residence in Sumer. There was a request for the no-contact order to be lifted.

    The case judge did not lift the order, but set a hearing date for later in the year. Court records show Cetin was staying in room 17 of a local motel.

    In November 2014 – the same month Cetin pleaded not guilty – his address was updated to Coupeville.

    On Dec. 2, 2014, court records show Cetin’s parents were present for a hearing to lift the no-contact requirement.

    A prosecutor asked about firearms, and Cetin’s mother said those were removed, according to court records.

    A day later at a separate hearing, a judge granted a motion to cancel the no-contact order.

    As the case continued in 2015, additional counseling was recommended, court records show. They also show that case was tracked with a separate Island County case involving another alleged victim.

    As part of that misdemeanor assault case, Cetin was ordered to undergo a mental health evaluation in August 2015. The evaluation was completed as of March 2016, according to court records.

    There also were questions in the court file about cannabis use. But last April a judge asked how that related to his mental health evaluation, saying it was not a mental health issue.

    In May, a judge approved deferred prosecution in that assault case – meaning Cetin was not convicted – and he was ordered not to have alcohol or drugs as part of the deferment.

    As of Aug. 25, 2016, Cetin was in compliance with weekly sessions for mental health counseling. He complied with the alcohol assessment, according to court records, and he had a deferred prosecution review for the case scheduled for 2018.

    KIRO 7 will have cover Cetin's upcoming court appearances in the Cascade Mall case, including his bail hearing expected Monday. Get the latest updates on investigation with the KIRO 7 News app.

    © 2016 Cox Media Group.

  3. The "Hispanic" suspect was born in Adana, Turkey. The US press is in no hurry to make the correction.

    Up Trump's points by three.

  4. By coincidence:

    August 26, 2016
    A total of 20 suspects from Konya and 20 from Adana provinces have been detained in multiple operations carried out against the Daesh terror organization on Friday.

    The anti-terror branch team of the Konya Provincial Security Directorate identified a group linked to the Daesh.

    The team took action and detained 20 people in simultaneous operations carried out at different locations in the city center.

    The anti-terror branch team of the Adana Police Department also organized simultaneous operations at dawn in Şakirpaşa and Gürselpaşa of the central district Seyhan and in Kiremithane, in Yüreğir district.

    20 Daesh suspects, including women, were detained in that raid.

    The suspects were brought to the Police Department for questioning after undergoing medical checks at the Forensic Medicine Unit of Adana.

  5. MORE:

    WASHINGTON – The 20-year-old arrested as a suspect in the Washington state mall shooting is a native of Adana, Turkey, and a 2015 graduate of Oak Harbor High School in the Washington state community of Oak Harbor, Washington, where he was known as “The Turk.”

    Arcan Cetin was identified by surveillance video images in the store. He was arrested Saturday night following the Friday-night attack in which five people were killed by an assailant bearing a Ruger hunting rifle who strolled into the makeup department of a Macy’s store in the Cascade Mall – a gun-free zone. Four of the victims were women ranging in age from teens to seniors.

    Cetin posted on his Tumblr page encouragement to chant “SubhanAllah,” which means “glory to Allah.”



    Suspect Arrested in Fatal Shooting of 5 Near Seattle

    By CHRISTOPHER MELE and NIRAJ CHOKSHI 46 minutes ago
    Arcan Cetin, 20, of Oak Harbor, Wash., was taken into custody in connection with the shooting at the Cascade Mall in Burlington.

    (five paragraphs into story)

    ....Mr. Cetin was active in the Reserve Officers Training Corps, said the former classmate, Uhlaine Finnigan, 19, of Port Angeles, Wash.

    She called Mr. Cetin “sexist” and said he would touch girls on their buttocks, “either slapping or grabbing them.”

    “He did that to girls of all grades at the high school including my best friend and I, regardless of the blatant disgust from the girls and being told to stop,” she said in an interview by Facebook Messenger. She said he appeared to have few friends.


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  8. A 'sexist', eh ?

    Sounds like a deplorable irredeemable Trump supporter.

    When in truth he picked up the male Turk disdain for women from his old man and uncle.

    Now we'll have to house him forever, SubhanAllah.

    1. .

      Sounds like Bob and Doug.

      As I recall they were the only two here who have used the 'c' word on other bloggers playing a large part IMO in why there is no distaff side to this blog.

      But, hell, they are always 'sorry' after.


  9. Here's the Jihad Watch article on this incident:

    Washington state: Turkish Muslim, Arcan Cetin, arrested for murder of five people inside Cascade Mall

    September 24, 2016 10:34 pm By Robert Spencer

    They are uncertain as to whether it amounts to a true "Q"Nit or not.

    No actual written definition of a "Q"Nit exists, but the motivation must come from Islam, though here the young man seems to have multiple 'problems'.

    I will wait till I read Pam Geller comments on it and find out more about his social postings before I formally proclaim it our "Q"Nit of the Day.

  10. Sweden: Police admit losing control of 55 no-go zones
    By Robert Spencer on Sep 24, 2016 02:31 pm

    Sweden: Police admit losing control of 55 no-go zones
    This is the beginning of an Islamic state in Scandinavia. “Swedish Police Admit Losing Control Of 55 No-Go Zones,” by Chris Tomlinson, Breitbart, September 24, 2016: Police in Sweden continue to lose control of more suburbs in major Swedish cities as they have now admitted that there are more than 55 no-go areas where they have […]
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    I'm sure glad gramps got out of that hell-hole.

    What a bunch of dumb fuckers European Swedes are these days, inviting violent idiots in to take over their once decent country......

  11. Mighty University Idaho Vandals beat the UNLV Rebels 33-30 this Saturday evening in Las Vegas

    Go Vandals !

    We are now 2 wins 2 loses the year.

    Shout out to Robbie, a long time tenant and the leader of our Cheerleaders Team !

    Yo ! Robbie !!

  12. OOHHH-ooooo

    Clinton's lead narrows to 3 points in Pennsylvania....DRUDGE

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  13. I see we have yet another installment of the b00bie and dougshit show and in this episode they like to chortle about the possible attendance of Flowers at the debate. This attempt to tar Hillary with the transgressions of her husband is quite funny in light of their love for Trump - who's on his third wife. The second wife started as an affair when he was married to his first wife. Whatta guy!

    1. Any woman worth a shit would divorce a husband who was a multiple rapist, and serial adulterer.

      Hillary isn't worth a shit as a woman, or a politician.

      Their marriage has been one of political convenience for decades.

      And she has attacked and tried to silence many of the women BillyGoat abused.

      Such people, Ash, such people....

      They make The Donald look like The Shining knight of Virtue in comparison....

    2. The Hill: Mike Pence: Gennifer Flowers won’t be at the debate


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  15. I see we have yet another installment of the b00bie and dougshit show and in this episode they like to chortle about the possible attendance of Flowers at the debate. This attempt to tar Hillary with the transgressions of her husband is quite funny in light of their love for Trump - who's on his third wife. The second wife started as an affair when he was married to his first wife. Whatta guy!