COLLECTIVE MADNESS


“Soft despotism is a term coined by Alexis de Tocqueville describing the state into which a country overrun by "a network of small complicated rules" might degrade. Soft despotism is different from despotism (also called 'hard despotism') in the sense that it is not obvious to the people."

Saturday, May 19, 2007

Is Hezbollah and other Islamic Terror Groups in Latin America?

We need some common sense on the immigration bill. There is no urgency that it be done this week. There is no reason that it should apply to all countries of origin equally. Serious security issues need to be considered. Along with security concerns, there needs to be some serious discussions about the economic impact to US social services at all levels of governments. There needs to be honest debate. This is but one more reason for caution:

Hezbollah builds a Western base
From inside South America’s Tri-border area, Iran-linked militia targets U.S.


'We are Muslims. I am Hezbollah.'
Mustafa Khalil Meri, a Hezbollah militiaman in Paraguay, says the militant Islamist group would take violent revenge inside the United States if it were to attack Iran.
Telemundo & msnbc.com


By Pablo Gato and Robert Windrem
NBC News
Updated: 9:29 a.m. ET May 9, 2007

CIUDAD DEL ESTE, Paraguay - The Iranian-backed Hezbollah militia has taken root in South America, fostering a well-financed force of Islamist radicals boiling with hatred for the United States and ready to die to prove it, according to militia members, U.S. officials and police agencies across the continent.

From its Western base in a remote region divided by the borders of Paraguay, Brazil and Argentina known as the Tri-border, or the Triple Frontier, Hezbollah has mined the frustrations of many Muslims among about 25,000 Arab residents whose families immigrated mainly from Lebanon in two waves, after the 1948 Arab-Israeli war and after the 1985 Lebanese civil war.

An investigation by Telemundo and NBC News has uncovered details of an extensive smuggling network run by Hezbollah, a Shiite Muslim group founded in Lebanon in 1982 that the United States has labeled an international terrorist organization. The operation funnels large sums of money to militia leaders in the Middle East and finances training camps, propaganda operations and bomb attacks in South America, according to U.S. and South American officials.

U.S. officials fear that poorly patrolled borders and rampant corruption in the Tri-border region could make it easy for Hezbollah terrorists to infiltrate the southern U.S. border. From the largely lawless region, it is easy for potential terrorists, without detection, to book passage to the United States through Brazil and then Mexico simply by posing as tourists.

They are men like Mustafa Khalil Meri, a young Arab Muslim whom Telemundo interviewed in Ciudad del Este, Paraguay’s second-largest city and the center of the Tri-border region. There is nothing particularly distinctive about him, but beneath the everyday T-shirt he wears beats the heart of a devoted Hezbollah militiaman.

“If he attacks Iran, in two minutes Bush is dead,” Meri said. “We are Muslims. I am Hezbollah. We are Muslims, and we will defend our countries at any time they are attacked.”

More here and you can download a pdf report on Hezbollah America Latina: Strange Group or Real

43 comments:

  1. I have been very critical of Bush for the past year. The criticism is based on increasing doubts about his competence and about his integrity. This rush to cram a bill of such importance shows either gross negligence and misunderstanding of the impact that it will have on the US or it is pure cynicism.

    The only thing surprising to me about his popularity polls is that they remain so high.

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  2. One out of three is pretty low, Deuce. You can, honestly, get one third of the people to believe damned near anything you can come up with.

    I believe that Bush is a "Great" Patriot, and a not incompetent administrator; but, he appears to believe something about this immigration thing that most people just think is screwy.

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  3. Is Hezbollah and other Islamic Terror Groups in Latin America?

    Latin America hell -
    they are here...right now in the U.S.

    Without a doubt; what would stop them from arriving, planning, and eventually acting?

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  4. That is what I was going to say, Elijah, the question might well be, not Latin America, but North America. I've thought so since Rat wised me up some time ago about finding prayer clothes out in the Mexico/Arizona desert. It's not paranoid to think they are here.

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  5. Elijah, after 911 and four years of war, we still cannot say the words that Islam is the problem. I could support mny parts of an immigration bill, but a realistic security concern is a top priority. Ignoring illegal Muslim immigration is insane.

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  6. Why is it so hard to say that we are a nation built on judeo-christian traditions and western civilization?

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  7. It's an odd thing, Rufus, sitting here getting some satisfaction at seeing the poll numbers drop of a man I voted for twice.

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  8. I accept that there are many many worthy applicants for US citizenship, but should we not have say as to who, how and when?

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  9. I did as well Bob. He is my greatest political regret.

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  10. I've wondered if I would feel the same if it was 20 million Swedes, and their families.
    Well, it's hypothetical, as they aren't 20 million Swedes. I think my honest answer is, if they were Catholic Swedes, i.e. breeders, and if they were mostly uneducated, and if the country they came from was disfunctional, nasty, corrupt to the point where the drugs kings attack the police en masse when the police, or a few of them, reject the payoffs, when they had all snuck in here illegally, and sucked off the system, my answer would be I wouldn't want them. My answer is we got to really really cut it back, and be selective and exclusive.

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  11. I'm not anti catholic at all, but the pope and his men have got to say, put the rubber on, or take the pill, you have that option. Don't bring kids into the world you can't take care of.

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  12. They have what amounts to a WAR going on down there. You can find this stuff nearly every day.

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  13. Well, the good news before I go to bed is that it's probably not as bad as we think it is. Our country is a mighty big ship, and it does tend to have a self-correcting mechanism in the steering gears.

    Don't get me wrong; I think this bill is an abomination - a steaming pile of shit, but it won't "sink" the country. I mean, we tried to give the country away in the seventies, but the people finally had enough and elected Reagan, and we were on the road to recovery. We just tend, as a country, to rock back and forth from one silliness to the next, but we always get by somehow.

    I think more than anything else, this bill, and the way they're doing it, has hurt our feelings. Americans aren't too crazy about having people pee down our legs and coo in our ears about how "warm the rain is."

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  14. 9/11 Commission Finds Ties Between al-Qaeda and Iran

    THE TERRORISTS of Hezbollah and al Qaeda do not behave like textbook automatons. It is never wise to accept al Qaeda's propaganda at face value, but behind Zawahiri's recent statement lies a long-standing relationship between Iran's Hezbollah and al Qaeda. Not only were ideological boundaries insignificant, Tehran's terror proxy has played an instrumental role in al Qaeda's rise.
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    While the vast majority of illegals from the ME are not terrorists, the fact that tens of thousands of people from that region-and millions more from the rest of the world-can settle in the U.S. illegally means that terrorists, who wish to do so,

    face few obstacles.

    We cannot protect ourselves from terrorism without dealing with illegal immigration.
    - Stephen A. Camarota, director of research, the Center for Immigration Studies, November 2004
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    The Salvatrucha gangs (MS-13) are very serious, very vicious, and we have confirmed that they have had contact with al Queda.
    - Congressman Solomon Ortiz (D-TX), September 2, 2004
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    Ultra-violent MS-13 gangs now present in 3,500 U.S. cities April 29, 2007

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  16. As for Iran/Hezbollah and Al Qaeda.

    Well, they'd never work with "secular" pan-Arabists. They've got principles.

    That's why they cooperated tactically with a bunch of supposedly heretical (and therefore doubly dangerous than infidels) Shi'ites.

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  17. "I've wondered if I would feel the same if it was 20 million Swedes, and their families.
    Well, it's hypothetical, as they aren't 20 million Swedes. I think my honest answer is, if they were Catholic Swedes, i.e. breeders, and if they were mostly uneducated, and if the country they came from was disfunctional, nasty, corrupt to the point where the drugs kings attack the police en masse when the police, or a few of them, reject the payoffs, when they had all snuck in here illegally, and sucked off the system, my answer would be I wouldn't want them. My answer is we got to really really cut it back, and be selective and exclusive."

    To complete the analogy, there'd have to be an endless amount of future Swedes, as well Sweden being next door and often resentful of us.

    Personally, in such a situation I think Euro socialists mucking up our political process would be just as bad. Although, it would be much harder for the Democrats to do the racial demagoguery thing and lock up their votes.

    As for Bush - I never, ever, would have voted for Kerry. Worst serious presidential candidate of the 20th century, Bush included.

    As South Park said: Politics is often choosing between a shit sandwich and a giant douche. Then it's an art of utilitarianism/consequentialism, not clean consciences. I.e., no matter who you pick you're going to have blood on your hands, just go for the lesser amount.

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  18. "As for Bush - I never, ever, would have voted for Kerry. Worst serious presidential candidate of the 20th century, Bush included."

    *20th/21st.

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  19. I think the Bill if passed WILL sink the country.
    Breeders plus their families plus more cheaters, all on the welfare teat at 30k year???
    In 20 years there'll be 60 million of em, on top of the legal Hispanics here now.

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  20. UC-Irvine Muslim student throws cinderblock at FBI agent; FBI being questioned
    Jihad Watch • 6:39 am •
    LGF has several stories about the vile antisemitic hatefest that the Muslim Students Union of UC-Irvine is conducting this week, including this one about a very strange incident: "FBI actions at UCI questioned: Muslim student says he feared agent was...

    "Nothing improper going on," eh? Could this be yet another attempt by a Muslim group to traffic in intimidation and threats and then try to claim victim status? One clue: CAIR is on the case:

    The agent did not violate any policy by refusing to identify himself, Eimiller said, because he was not conducting an arrest.
    UCI Police Chief Henisey said the FBI has been cooperating with his investigation.

    On Thursday, Hussam Ayloush, executive director of the Southern California chapter of the Council on American Islamic Relations in Anaheim, said his office "has received many calls from students and parents at UCI expressing extreme concern about the safety and privacy of their students on campus" since Monday.

    "The calls came all day yesterday and today," Ayloush said Thursday. "It's understandable that law enforcement might sometimes need to verify certain tips, but the problem in this situation was the manner in which it was conducted."

    Hussam Ayloush, in a radio "debate" with me not too long ago, danced around, changed the subject, and did all he could to avoid condemning Hamas and Hizballah as terrorist organizations.
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    I think he should have ended up like that Pancake Gal and the Israeli Dozer.
    But that's just me.

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  21. Gilchrist figures 33 million illegals total, counting Russians, So Americans, et al.
    My 60 million in 20 years is probably way low if this passes and they start dragging their parents and others in.
    Bad News.

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  22. "As South Park said: Politics is often choosing between a shit sandwich and a giant douche."

    Speaking of which (shit sandwiches anyway, not sure about the douche):

    The Army is now running 51% below strength in experienced Captains (that is, Captains that have had a company command). That reflects an absolutely astonishing rate of departure.

    How long do we keep this up in order to, as Wretch is wont to rationalize, gain invaluable experience on the ground?

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  23. Their Valuable Insight seems to be to get the Hell Home!
    Odd that Captains don't want to re-up as IED Bait in a questionable pursuit.

    As I've speculated, the Hardware must be suffering greatly from Hard Wear, and lack of sufficient replacement and needed buildup.

    Amazing description of what we could have done to Cuba back when we had a Thousand Ship Navy a thread or two back.
    Would be interesting to see the cost of maintaining that compared to Iraq Quagmire.

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  24. Angus Reid Global Monitor : Polls & Research
    Americans Want a Competitive Third Party
    May 18, 2007

    (Angus Reid Global Monitor) - Many adults in the United States would like to have more choices in politics, according to a poll by Rasmussen Reports. 58 per cent of respondents think it would be good for the U.S. if there were a truly competitive third party.

    In American presidential elections, candidates require 270 votes in the U.S. Electoral College to win the White House. In November 2004, Republican incumbent George W. Bush earned a second term after securing 286 electoral votes from 31 states. Democratic nominee John Kerry received 252 electoral votes from 19 states and the District of Columbia. As far as the popular vote is concerned, Bush garnered 51.03 per cent of all cast ballots, with Kerry getting 48.04 per cent.

    In 1992, Ross Perot received 18.9 per cent of the popular vote as a third party candidate, but won no electoral votes. In 1996, Perot garnered 8.48 per cent of all cast ballots as the Reform Party nominee.

    On May 13, Republican Nebraska senator Chuck Hagel said his party has been "hijacked by a group of single-minded, almost isolationist insulationists, power-projectors," adding, "I think (a third party) shakes the system up. The system needs to be shaken up."

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  25. Hijacked by isolationist insulationists power projectors? What the hell is Hagel talking about? Isolationist power projectors? Guy must be smoking alot of that Mexican marijuana pouring over the border, or I have, not understanding it.

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  26. An example of our Isolationism

    Sometimes in some ways I wish we were isolationist.

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  27. "Would be interesting to see the cost of maintaining that compared to Iraq Quagmire."

    You don't "maintain" a quagmire. A quagmire "maintains" you.

    American Heritage Dictionary: a situation from which extrication is very difficult.

    It's all over but the cryin'.

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  28. "What the hell is Hagel talking about?"

    I dunno. But it's an interesting poll.

    Hell, we'd be better off if we had a functioning *second* party.

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  29. Influx of Al Qaeda, money into Pakistan is seen
    U.S. officials say the terrorist network's command base is increasingly being funded by cash coming out of Iraq.
    By Greg Miller
    Times Staff Writer

    May 20, 2007

    WASHINGTON — A major CIA effort launched last year to hunt down Osama bin Laden has produced no significant leads on his whereabouts, but has helped track an alarming increase in the movement of Al Qaeda operatives and money into Pakistan's tribal territories, according to senior U.S. intelligence officials familiar with the operation.

    In one of the most troubling trends, U.S. officials said that Al Qaeda's command base in Pakistan is increasingly being funded by cash coming out of Iraq, where the terrorist network's operatives are raising substantial sums from donations to the anti-American insurgency as well as kidnappings of wealthy Iraqis and other criminal activity.

    The influx of money has bolstered Al Qaeda's leadership ranks at a time when the core command is regrouping and reasserting influence over its far-flung network. The trend also signals a reversal in the traditional flow of Al Qaeda funds, with the network's leadership surviving to a large extent on money coming in from its most profitable franchise, rather than distributing funds from headquarters to distant cells.

    Al Qaeda's efforts were aided, intelligence officials said, by Pakistan's withdrawal in September of tens of thousands of troops from the tribal areas along the Afghanistan border where Bin Laden and his top deputy, Ayman Zawahiri, are believed to be hiding.

    Little more than a year ago, Al Qaeda's core command was thought to be in a financial crunch. But U.S. officials said cash shipped from Iraq has eased those troubles.

    "Iraq is a big moneymaker for them," said a senior U.S. counter-terrorism official.

    [...]

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  30. REALISM
    Winds of Change comments on the anti-Musharraf movement and asks whether US policy towards Pakistan isn't in rigor mortis.

    "Almost six years after 9/11, the substantial failure of the pact with Gen Musharraf is plain for everyone to see.

    Osama bin Laden remains at large, the Taliban are back in Afghanistan and parts of Pakistan, the A Q Khan network is believed to be in operation and the one thing the deal was supposed to avoid---severe political instability in nuclear-armed Pakistan---is at hand."

    Meanwhile, the Newspost India, quoting the New York Times, reported the United States is paying Pakistan roughly $1 billion a year for what it calls reimbursements to the country's military for conducting counter-terrorism efforts along the border with Afghanistan.

    Some American military officials in the region have recommended that the money be tied to Pakistan's performance in pursuing Al Qaeda and keeping the Taliban from gaining a haven from which to attack the government of Afghanistan.

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  31. American officials have been surprised by the speed at which both organisations have gained strength in the past year, the daily said.
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    Maybe they should have followed my links 3 years ago to excellent heads up work, with Videos, by ABC News!

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  32. Was a Great WOT, for about 4 months.

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  33. "Some American military officials in the region have recommended that the money be tied to Pakistan's performance in pursuing Al Qaeda and keeping the Taliban from gaining a haven from which to attack the government of Afghanistan."

    And if we cut off the money?

    South Asia never mattered anyway.

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  34. Depravity In La La Land.
    Woman lies on hospital floor, screaming in pain. Staff calls the cops (!) woman dies while being put in squad car!

    Officials are dismayed over a "tragic" death at King-Harbor. A nurse has resigned.

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  35. Doug, it is a beautiful computer, likes the US is a beautiful country, but it is all about the operating system. The laptop is ruled and burdened with microsoft.

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  36. Call this traitor whatever you want to call him, he's still an enemy of US Citizens/Taxpayers.
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    Kennedy's Bill had them paying back taxes, Bush insisted on taking that out, as it would be too hard to figure.

    No problem figuring credit for Social Security Bennies:
    JUST GIVE THEM AWAY!
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    Why Doesn't This Surprise Me - Mark Krikorian
    "Bush removes provision requiring back taxes from illegal immigrants"
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    Just remembered:
    Rector's costs don't include a price for the 40k innocent US Civilians Killed by illegals on W's watch.

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  37. We are overruled and written off by King George.

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  38. Wetland [Mark Steyn]

    Five and a half years on, the only good news on the 9/11 memorials is that they're not (yet) Islamic Education Centers funded by Saudi princes. Nonetheless, Jonathan V Last's account of the Flight 93 memorial's "progress" makes very sobering reading. A combination of bureaucratic process and our contemporary culture's default mode of tasteful passivity has brought about something that's more or less the precise opposite of what Flight 93 embodies:

    Part of the Bowl is designated "Wetlands": "The area will be its own kind of healing landscape, as it will be a habitat full of life. . . . Here visitors will be most aware of continuously connected living systems as the circular path literally bridges the hydrology of the Bowl."

    The architects proclaimed that their plan was for a "living memorial" that "offers the visitor space for reflection, learning, social interaction, and healing."

    All that plus wind chimes. A true Flight 93 memorial would honor courage, action and improvisation, but reflection, healing and wetlands are the best we can manage. Go to any Civil War memorial on any New England common, and marvel at how they managed to honor their dead without wetlands and wind chimes.

    LINK

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  39. We should all get our "Maroon" Tatoos removed, and have
    "Me Dhimmi"
    Stamped on our foreheads.

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  40. Those gold plated machine guns have Al Capone rolling over in his grave in envy, the piker.

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