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Sunday, June 29, 2014

ISIS insurgents appeared to have repelled Iraqi military’s initial push for Tikrit, and remained in control of the city on Sunday - Russian jets to the rescue?

Target ISIS: First batch of Russian Su-24 jets arrives in Iraq

Published time: June 29, 2014 00:25 
Edited time: June 29, 2014 08:38
The first ten Russian Sukhoi (Su-24) fighter jets arrived in Iraq on Saturday, the country’s Defense Ministry said. Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki is hoping the jets will make a key difference in the fight against ISIS.
“The fighter jets landed today in the morning on different military airfields,” MP Abbas al-Bayati told Iraqi media.
The official spokesperson for the Iraqi Ministry of Defense, Mohammed al-Askari, also confirmed the information, Al Iraqiya TV channel reported.
The fighter jets will be stationed at an airbase located in the southern part of the country, PressTV reported, citing military sources.
Earlier this week, Prime Minister Maliki revealed that Iraq purchased jets from Russia and Belarus in order to help its fight against Sunni militants from the Islamic State in Iraq and the Levant (ISIS/ISIL).
At the same time, Maliki criticized the US for taking too long to deliver on its own contract after Iraq purchased F-16 jets from America.
On Friday, Iraqi Air Force Commander Hameed al-Maliki confirmed the shipment of MI-35 and MI-28 Russian helicopter fighters to "keep the momentum" in the attacks against ISIS, Ruptly reported.
The commander said that he signed three contracts with the Russians and stressed the importance of the choppers as "excellent anti-terrorism weapons."
The radical Sunni Islamic State in Iraq and the Levant (ISIS or ISIL) has taken large parts of the country's north from the Shia government.

Hundreds of Iraqi soldiers have been killed by insurgents since the Sunni militants began their offensive on June 9, according to Iraqi forces.


  1. Juan Cole, crediting Arab News sources reports:

    ...Likely, also, the Green Berets sent by Obama to Baghdad have helped the Iraqi army plan out this campaign strategically.

    The attacking Iraqi armor (tanks) and thousands of infantry troops are getting good support, according to press reports, by helicopter gunships and fighter jets, the kind of coordination that has been missing as the army was pushed back by during the past two weeks by Sunni forces, many of them organized by the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (ISIS or ISIL).

    ISIS fighters at first were holed up in the palaces of late dictator Saddam Hussein, who was born in Tikrit. Where they had massed in the city, they were subjected to bombing raids during the day on Saturday. There are conflicting reports about how far the Iraqi military was able to go in taking Tikrit on Saturday. The Iraq army is said to have taken the airport and then the local university. Independent reports seem to confirm that ISIS had been pushed out of the center of the city by Sunday morning.

    Even Al-Rafidayn TV, which has a Sunni fundamentalist editorial line, reported that the Iraqi army had expelled ISIS from the governor’s offices and killed some 60 of them, including some ISIS commanders. It quoted Ahmad Abdullah al-Juburi, the governor of Salahuddin Province. It also underlined that the army was supported by “Popular Brigades” of irregulars, presumably Sunni tribesmen who prefer Baghdad to the extremists of ISIS (or who have been paid well to so choose).

    Despite Sunni alienation from the al-Maliki government, there is a significant Sunni power elite that had been allied with it and benefited from it. Atheel al-Nujayfi, the governor of Nineva Province, is also seeking to raise a force of Sunni irregulars to expel ISIS from his own city, Mosul.

    The Iraqi air force also bombed Mosul on Saturday, targeting ISIS positions, and it received the first shipment of used Russian fighter jets.

  2. I look forward to the Allahu Ackbar shootdown videos on YouTube because I have one of those sip/chug drinking games going. So does Putin. More sales.


  3. Iraq crisis pushing Obama toward alliance with Syria and Iran

    U.S. President Barack Obama made clear his lack of policy on Syria recently in an interview with CBS News in the United States.

    "The notion that [the Syrian opposition was] in a position to overturn not only Assad but also ruthless, highly trained jihadists if we just sent a few arms is a fantasy,” he said,
    A few weeks ago Washington was trying to determine which of around two dozen militias in Syria constituted “the moderate opposition” with which it could business, but the vetting process is now meaningless; the options are steadily shrinking.

    In the case of Syria, the choice is between wholesale support for Assad and shrugging one’s shoulders. In Iraq, it’s between applying futile pressure on Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki to form a unity government that will give the Sunnis a proper share in the regime, and issuing hollow pronouncements against ISIS. The Syrian Air Force strike in Iraq on Wednesday, which killed 57 civilians, was a clear indication of Assad’s intentions. He wants to prove to the West, and especially to the United States, that he is the only leader who can take action against the extremists.


    1. ISRAEL prefers al-QAEDASun Jun 29, 09:27:00 AM EDT

      Israel’s Ambassador to the United States Michael Oren told the Jerusalem Post that Israel so wanted Assad out and his Iranian backers weakened, that Israel would accept al-Qaeda operatives taking power in Syria.

      “We always wanted Bashar Assad to go, we always preferred the bad guys who weren’t backed by Iran to the bad guys who were backed by Iran.”

      Even if the other “bad guys” were affiliated with al-Qaeda.


    2. Some Washington figures are calling for a diplomatic coalition of the United States, Iran, Iraq, Syria and Russia against ISIS. According to some reports, there is already intelligence cooperation between Tehran and Washington, even though Iran opposes military intervention in Iraq. At the same time, the warfare in Syria is beginning to look less dangerous than the fighting in Iraq, where the heads of several Sunni tribes have said they were willing to fight ISIS in the event a new government were formed there.


    3. Sometimes men get ready for a job interview by sniffing their laundry and putting on the least dirty shirt. So that's Al Qaeda for ya. I'm waiting for McCain to finish sniffing so he can come up with a coherent rant.

    4. .

      What kind of men do you hang with?


  4. It is all about Israel. Nothing else matters.

    1. There are twenty-two counties in the US larger than Israel. I'm an American gal. Nothing else matters.

    2. you are Israel obsessed.

    3. .

      Another Anonymous Anonymi shouts defiance from beneath his bed.


  5. FSA hit back at ISIS in east Syria province

    Members of the Free Syrian Army (FSA) expelled fighters belonging to the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (ISIS) from parts of the eastern city of Al Bukamal near the border with Iraq, sources told Al Arabiya News Channel Saturday.
    The Syrian Observatory for Human Rights, a Britain-based monitoring group, reported heavy fighting overnight and into Saturday in the town between ISIS-aligned forces and rival Islamists, who include Nusra Front fighters from outside the town who had not sided with ISIS.

    The Observatory's Rami Abdul Rahman told Reuters that local tribal figures were trying to broker a ceasefire across Deir al-Zor.

    Al Bukamal lies across the border from the Iraqi town of al-Qaim, which was seized by ISIL fighters more than a week ago.

    The town was bombed by jets on Tuesday in an attack which Iraqi and Syrian sources said was carried out by Syria's air force. State media in Damascus denied that any Syrian planes struck inside Iraq and Iraq's prime minister said the Syrian jets hit targets inside Syrian territory.


  6. Iraq crisis: Tikrit rebels ‘push back Iraq army’

    BBC 2 hours ago

    Reports from Iraq say government troops trying to retake the city of Tikrit from Sunni militants have pulled back to the town of Dijla, 25km to the south, following a failed assault involving tanks, armoured vehicles and air cover.

    According to the reports, heavy fighting led to casualties on both sides.

    Sources say the security services have been struggling to reach the centre of Tikrit because the Isis-led rebels have laid a large number of explosives along the main road.

    Meanwhile Iraq said it had received the first batch of Sukhoi fighter jets from Russia in order to help fight the militants. Paul Adams reports from Baghdad.

  7. It's the "pass the popcorn" phase.

  8. FSA (with Israeli advisors, no doubt) is doing its groundwork so that it gets its check for $500 million form the US

    By Staff writer | Al Arabiya News
    Saturday, 28 June 2014
    Members of the Free Syrian Army (FSA) expelled fighters belonging to the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (ISIS) from parts of the eastern city of Al Bukamal near the border with Iraq, sources told Al Arabiya News Channel Saturday.

    The FSA, which is also seeking the ouster of Syrian President Bashar Assad, had launched a large campaign to clear the mainly ISIS-held city of the militant fighters.

    FSA reinforcements were dispatched at dawn Saturday as part of the campaign.

    The moderate Syrian opposition also issued a 24-hour ultimatum for ISIS to vacate the city, which is in the eastern province of Deir al-Zor.

    1. you have Israel in the brain.

    2. Israel - damned their country for moneySun Jun 29, 09:56:00 AM EDT

      Israel is the largest recipient of US..
      If they did not take US aid, they would not be looters.
      No one would be more concerned with Israel than with North Korea, the other nuclear outlaw.

      Then it would be about Tel Aviv as the premier destination in the Mediterranean for vacation sex trade.
      Let the "Good Times" roll - Israel provides AC/DC services.

  9. Link from Jerusalem Post on Israeli training of FSA:


    1. The USA trained the FSA in Jordan too..

      Big surprise?

    2. We train them, they move toward an ally of Iran (Assad), and McCain is good with that. We train them, they move toward an ally of Iran (al-Maliki) and McCain goes apeshit calling Obama weak. Go figure.

  10. Replies
    1. Only as long as people think it has anything to do with the End Times.

    2. Follow the water bearer, into the House of Aquarius.

    3. In the year 8510
      God is gonna shake His mighty head
      He'll either say, "I'm pleased where man has been"
      Or tear it down, and start again

  11. Cost to the U.S. - to date:

    300 Plane Tickets

    My kinda war.

  12. ...and the playbook gets edited in Washington:

    American intelligence and military personnel have for months been providing weapons training to Syrian rebels fighting President Bashar Assad’s regime, The Los Angeles Times reported on Friday.

    The newspaper cited US officials and rebel commanders who confirmed that CIA operatives and American special operations units have been training the rebels – primarily from the Free Syrian Army - with anti-tank and anti-aircraft weapons since late 2012.

    'US arming Syrian rebels forces Iran to bleed resources'
    Kerry to defend Syria policy in Mideast visit
    The newspaper reported that the training took place at covert bases in Jordan and Turkey. So far, the Obama administration has been hesitant to sanction large-scale military aid to the rebels for fear that the arms could end up in the hands of radical Islamists currently fighting the Assad regime.

    Washington has been urged by lawmakers at home and critics abroad to increase its involvement in the Syrian conflict, which has claimed the lives of tens of thousands in the last two years.

    The United States has left about 700 combat-equipped troops in Jordan after a training exercise there, at the request of the Jordanian government, US President Barack Obama said on Friday.

    With both countries keeping a wary eye on the civil war in Syria, Obama said in a letter to Congress that 700 of the troops deployed to Jordan as part of a training exercise will remain behind.


    1. The US admits the conflict in Syria is a proxy war.
      That the US is just using Syria, as a pawn in the Great Game.

      Refreshing truthfulness.

  13. Jordan relies mainly on the United States for its security. Even now, roughly half the United States’ F-16 fighter squadrons are stationed in Jordan, along with another thousand or so U.S. military personnel. The American contingent is meant to be a kind of logistical first strike team on the Syria-Jordanian border if one is required.


  14. Tea Bagger Suicide - No Foul Play Suspected!

    ATLANTA — Mark Mayfield, a respected lawyer and tea party operative in Mississippi, has died after being accused of taking part in an unseemly, Watergate-like conspiracy to undermine long-time Sen. Thad Cochran’s campaign.

    No foul play is suspected around the self-inflicted gunshot wound, local police said. Mr. Mayfield left a note behind, but authorities have not released it.

    A tea party group board member, Mayfield had worked to get Sen. Cochran’s challenger Chris McDaniel elected. On Tuesday, Cochran narrowly won the primary. Mr. McDaniel has denied involvement, and has not been implicated in the scheme to photograph Cochran's wife at a nursing home.

    1. .

      The use of the 'tea-bagger' tag puts rat on the same level as Bill Maher and Kieth Olberman. Petty mewlings from a bunch of dicks.


    2. It is descriptive of people that would sneak into a nursing home and attempt to steal images of a political opponents wife.

    3. When was the last time any of us brewed a cup of tea, that it was not in a bag?

      That is how tea is steeped, in the modern world, Quirk.
      Tea come in bags. One can't have a Tea Party without Tea Bags.

      Sorry if you have been left in the 18th century, but that is where the tea technology has brought us, to tea bags.

    4. Jack, obviously you don't understand modern US culture as evidenced by your knowledge of tea bagging.

  15. Under King Jeroboam II’s long reign the Northern Kingdom reached the pinnacle of its wealth and power and territorial extent. The population of Israel exceeded 350,000 and the border of the nation extended from the river Orontes to the Mediterranean Sea. For a time, it was the leading power of the region.

    The prophet Isaiah made note of an alliance between King Pekah and King Rezin of Aram that threatened King Ahaz of Judah. But this was the time the Assyrians made their bid for great power. Under Pekah’s reign the kingdom of Israel was reduced to solely the lands of Ephraim and parts of Manasseh. Then in 732 BCE King Pekah was slain by Hoshea, son of Elah.

    In the fourth year of his reign, Hoshea was summoned to the court of Shalmaneser to explain his failure to pay the 1,000 talents of tribute required of him. He was imprisoned, and the Assyrians attacked Israel from 727-725 BCE. The province of Samaria became, for all intents and purposes, a vassal of Damascus governed by military officers.

    In 721 the Assyrian army was withdrawn to secure the succession of Sargon II after the death of Shalmaneser.

    In 720 Sargon II occupied all of Israel and deported the people to the east, where they soon lost their identity forever as separate tribes through intermarriage with the Medeans, which was the standard procedure of the Assyrians at the time to quell possible uprisings. If they had done the same thing to the southern Kingdom, there would be no Jews or Christians today.

  16. See also our update on how wind energy met 91 per cent of demand in South Australia on Wednesday morning).

    It’s been a big week for wind energy. First was the admission by Tony Abbott’s modellers that the renewable energy target as is will reduce electricity bills, and that the target could be met. Then there was Clive Palmer’s vow of support from his three Senators.

    It’s also been very windy. So much so, that for a period of more than three days, wind energy in South Australia has provided two-thirds of total generation in the state. Over that period, nearly all the wind farm’s in the state have been operating at full capacity, as these graphs from NEM-Watch” show.

    Hugh Saddler, from Pitt&Sherry, says that in South Australia, wind contributed an average 64 per cent generation over the three days from Monday to Wednesday. Coal was relegated to just 9 per cent.

    Windy Australia

  17. It is impressive. I saw a link that Britain was getting 20% from renewables.

    1. Gee, I wonder who put That up? :)

    2. You have an enduring, if subtle, affect.

  18. ISIS is resilient:

    Iraqi government forces have reportedly been forced to pull back from the northern city of Tikrit after an offensive to reclaim the city from Sunni Muslim militants was blunted by fierce fighting.

    The BBC, citing eyewitnesses, reported Sunday that the Iraqi army had fallen back to the town of Dijla, approximately 15 miles to the south. The witnesses said that the government forces' drive to retake Tikrit had been hampered in part my the large number of improvised explosive devices laid on the approach to the city. The witnesses said that security forces continued to shell the city, though what damage those shells may have done is unclear.

    Iraqi officials had claimed that troops had pushed into the heart of the city in what was the biggest attempt yet by the Baghdad government to reverse a series of defeats suffered earlier this month at the hands of the Al Qaeda-inspired Islamic State in Iraq and The Levant (ISIS). The militants have surged across Sunni-majority areas of the north and west, menacing the capital and bringing the government of Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki to the brink of collapse in the process.

  19. Just as the dismantling of the Austro-Hungarian Empire in 1918 at the hands of American, French and British imperialists led to sosme groups being given self-determination and other groups eventual genocide or discrimination, the dismantling of the Ottoman Empire created the same problems in the Middle East. Now it is the turn of the Sunnis in Shiite areas and the Shiites in Sunni areas and the Christians everywhere to receive the blessings of nationalism mixed with Islamic fanaticism. The Austrians and Hungarians made many mistakes, as did the Ottoman Turks, but everyone was probably better off before their empires were destroyed.

    1. The Israeli government has, to a large extent, continued the Ottoman legal system in regard to land ownership. 

      Thus, today the vast proportion of land within the State of Israel (roughly 93%) is owned and managed either by the Israel Lands Administration (ILA) or the JNF.  This figure includes much of such extensive regions as the Negev and the Judean Wilderness (near the Dead Sea), which are sparsely populated. 

      Jewish settlements in the State of Israel usually are located on lands that are owned by the ILA or the JNF and that have been consigned to each settlement through long-term leases. 

      Less than 7% of the land in the State of Israel is privately owned.


  20. As they say in the US Army: "diversity is strength"

  21. Syria, Iraq and Ukraine, all testaments to strength through diversity.

    1. I don't know: California, and New York are pretty diverse states. They're fairly strong. :)

    2. Canada?

      Even, Texas.

      I would lay the ME problems at the feet of too much Religious Hatred, not too much "diversity."

    3. And, as far as the U.S. Army goes - you have one you want to put up against it?


    4. The US Army wins the battles, the politicians lose the wars.
      Been doing that since 1966.

  22. From Daily Beast

    Iraq’s Christians See Putin As Savior
    Reeling from regional developments and disillusioned with the West, some Iraqi Christians are looking to Russia for support.
    After a decade of church bombings, targeted killings, and anti-Christian workplace discrimination, Ramy Youssef has finally tired of Iraq’s halting progress and is intent on emigrating.

    “I don’t want to leave. I don’t want these terrorists to do what no one’s ever done before: push Assyrians out of our historic homeland, but I can’t work like this,” said the fresh-faced IT technician, his voice rising, as he sipped tea in his cousin’s Erbil liquor store a month after death threats forced him to abandon his business in Baghdad.

    Youssef will be the last of his immediate family to jet off—joining roughly two-thirds of Iraq’s pre-war population of 1.5 million Christians who’ve fled abroad or trudged north to Kurdistan. Before he goes, though, he’s keen to set the record straight and settle some old scores.

    “This is America’s fault. It’s the Muslims who are killing us, but this never would have happened if the West hadn’t turned our lives upside down,” he fumed. “Maybe we’ll be able to return one day if we have proper allies.”

    Enter Putin stage right.

    As far as some of his Iraqi co-religionists are concerned, there’s a ready-made alternative to American influence out there and they’re frantically trying to solicit its support.

    “Russia proved through history that it’s the only defender of Christians,” said Ashur Giwargis, who heads the Assyrian Patriotic Movement (APM), which for two years has energetically lobbied the Kremlin to support an independent Assyrian Christian state in northern Iraq.

    Until recently, the Beirut-based exile and his colleagues, who are scattered among the global Iraqi diaspora, had little to show for their efforts, but in January, as Western-Russian tensions escalated over Ukraine, Giwargis was summoned to Moscow to meet government officials.

    1. The Russians are doing good work in Syria, helping to hold the Jihadi radicals in check, while the US, Saudi Arabian, Israeli alliance have supported them in their quest for a genocide of the Christians and Alawites.

      Putin has made a concerted effort to align Russia with is Christian roots.
      Been pushing that for well over a decade, now.

  23. Deuce: As they say in the US Army: "diversity is strength"

    You can say that again:


  24. .

    While I disagree with Greta Van DeHueval of the Nation on about 75% of subjects, I do kind of admire her spunk (some would say hysteria).

    On ABC's This Week program today she proceeded to rip Bill Kristol a new asshole because of his part in pushing the Iraq war and getting back into a new one now.

    It started out with her telling Kristol that if he is so concerned about Iraq, he should saddle up and join the Iraqi army. He responded, 'That's cute' which really set her off. She went into full attack mode and to say the least was not complimentary. Kristol was metagrabolized, stuttering and huffing and puffing so much he couldn't get an understandable word out. They ended up switching to another panelist before he could get one intelligible sentence out.

    It was all quite lovely. Almost choked on my oatmeal.


    1. I never watch those shows, but I kinda wish I'd watched that one. :)

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    3. .

      Kind of reminded me of past confrontations like the one at the '68 Republican Convention.


      Two Wordsmiths Going At It


      Two Alley Cats Going At It


    4. .

      Whoops, reversed the videos.


    5. I get the same video from both links.

    6. .

      Sorry, the first video merely showed the beginning of an argument between the two, a little less contentious but with the same two elites indulging in more snark.

      Buckley v Gore


  25. Christof Lehmann (nsnbc) : The green light for the use of ISIS brigades to carve up Iraq, widen the Syria conflict into a greater Middle East war and to throw Iran off-balance was given behind closed doors at the Atlantic Council meeting in Turkey, in November 2013, told a source close to Saudi – Lebanese billionaire Saad Hariri, adding that the U.S. Embassy in Ankara is the operation’s headquarter.

    A “trusted source” close to the Saudi – Lebanese multi-billionaire and former Lebanese P.M. Saad Hariri told on condition of anonymity, that the final green light for the war on Iraq with ISIS or ISIL brigades was given behind closed doors, at the sidelines of the Atlantic Council’s Energy Summit in Istanbul, Turkey, on November 22 – 23, 2013.

    The Atlantic Council is one of the most influential U.S. think tanks with regard to U.S. and NATO foreign policy and geopolitics. Atlantic Council President Frederick Kempe stressed the importance of the Energy Summit and the situation in the Middle East before the summit in November, saying:

    “We view the current period as a turning point, just like 1918 and 1945. Turkey is in every way a central country, as a creator of regional stability. However much the USA and Turkey can work in unison, that is how effective they will be.”

    The summit was, among others, attended by Turkey’s President Abdullah Gül, U.S. Energy Secretary Ernst Monitz, Atlantic Council President Frederick Kempe, former U.S. Secretary of State Madeleine Albright, former U.S. National Security Adviser Brent Scowcroft.

    It is noteworthy that Scowcroft has long-standing ties to Henry Kissinger and to the Minister of Natural Resources of the Kurdish Administrated Region of Northern Iraq.

    “Had Baghdad been more cooperative about the Syrian oil fields at Deir-Ez-Zor in early 2013 and about autonomy for the North [Iraq's northern, predominantly Kurdish region] they would possibly not have turned against al-Maliki; Or he would have been given more time”, said the Hariri insider during the almost two-hour-long conversation.

    In March 2013, U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry demanded that Iraq “stops the arms flow to Syria”, while U.S. weapons were flowing to ISIS via Saudi Arabia into Iraq and Jordan.

    On Monday, April 22, 2013, 27 of the 28 E.U. foreign ministers agreed to lift the ban on the import of Syrian oil from opposition-held territories to allow the “opposition” to finance part of its campaign.

    Previous reports confirmed that Baghdad started intercepting weapons and insurgents along the Saudi – Iraqi border, cutting off important supply lines for ISIS brigades around Deir Ez-Zor, and that Al-Maliki began complaining about a Saudi – Qatari-backed attempt to subvert the Iraqi State since late 2012. Noting my remark he replied:

    “That is right, but the heavy increase in attacks came in May – June 2013, after al-Maliki ordered the military to al-Anbar “.

    A previous article in nsnbc explains how Baghdad’s blockade caused problems in Jordan, because many of the transports of weapons, fighters and munitions had to be rerouted via Jordan.

    The Hariri insider added that the oil fields should have been under ISIS control by August 2013, but that the plan failed for two reasons. The UK withdrew its support for the bombing of Syria. That in turn enabled the Syrian army to dislodge both ISIS and Jabhat al-Nusrah from Deir Ez-Zor in August.

    “The situation was a disaster because in June Hariri, Yidiz, Hawrami, Scowcroft, and everybody was ready to talk about how to share the oil between the U.S., Turkey and E.U.. The Summit in November should have dealt with a fait accompli”, the Hariri source stressed, adding that Washington put a gun to al-Maliki’s head when he was invited to the White House.


    1. Both the President of the Kurdish region of Iraq, Masoud Barzani and Iraqi PM Nouri al-Maliki were invited to Washington in early November 2013.

      KurdishElection“Certain circles in Washington put a hell of a lot of pressure on Obama to put a gun to al-Maliki’s head”, said the Hariri source, adding that “time was running out and Obama was hesitant”. Asked what he meant with “time was running out” and if he could specify who it was that pushed Obama, he said:

      “Barzani was losing his grip in the North (Kurdish Iraq); the election [in September] was a setback. All plans for distributing Iraqi oil via Turkey and for sidelining Baghdad were set between Kirkuk and Ankara in early November… “Who exactly pressured Obama? I don’t know who delivered the message to Obama. I suspect Kerry had a word. It’s more important from where the message came, Kissinger, Scowcroft, Nuland and the Keagan clan, Stavridis, Petreaus, Riccardione, and the neo-con crowd at the [Atlantic] Council. … As far as I know ´someone` told Obama that he’d better pressure al-Maliki to go along with Kurdish autonomy by November or else. Who exactly ´advised` Obama is not as important as the fact that those people let him know that they would go ahead, with, or without him”.

      Asked whether he knew details, how the final green light for the ISIS campaign was given, he said:

      ” Behind closed doors, in the presence of both Scowcroft, Hariri, and a couple of other people”. To my question “if he could be more specific” he replied “I could; I want to stay alive you know; Riccardione was tasked with the operation that day”.

      Noting that a prominent member of Saudi Arabia’s royal family, Prince Abdul Rachman al-Faisal has been named as the one being “in command” of the ISIS brigades, and if he could either confirm or deny, he nodded, adding that “the Prince” is responsible for financing the operation and for part of the command structure, but that the operations headquarter is the U.S. Embassy in Ankara Turkey. “As far as I know, nothing moves without Ambassador Riccardione”, he added.


    2. was given behind closed doors, at the sidelines of the Atlantic Council’s Energy Summit in Istanbul, Turkey, on November 22 – 23, 2013.


    3. That would be, say, in a hotel suite rather than a main conference room ,,

    4. Who was there? Who were they representing? What, exactly, was said? And, whom was the speaker representing?

      Kinda nebulous, eh?

      I'll wait for the movie. :)

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    6. What is interesting, Rufus, is the timeline of events from March of 2013 through the present.
      Regardless of who said what, to whom, the dots that are visible do tell a story.

      Especially when over laid by the known positions of the "Atlantic Council", CFR and the ever infamous 'Bilderbergs'
      Bilderberg actually talks nukes, euro nationalism and… Barack Obama – leak

  26. Civil Unrest Is Rising Everywhere: “This Won’t End Pretty”

    Martin Armstrong | June 29, 2014

    The greatest problem we have is misinformation. People simply do not comprehend why and how the economic policies of the post-war era are imploding. This whole agenda of socialism has sold a Utopian idea that the State is there for the people yet it is run by lawyers following their own self-interest. The pensions created for those in government drive the cost of government up exponentially with time. The political forces blame the rich and this merely creates a class warfare with no resolution for the future. Even confiscating all the wealth of the so-called rich will not sustain the system. Consequently, we just have to crash and burn and start all over again.

    The Guardian reported that some 50,000 people marched in London to protest against austerity. They cried: “Who is really responsible for the mess this country is in? Is it the Polish fruit pickers or the Nigerian nurses? Or is it the bankers who plunged it into economic disaster – or the tax avoiders? It is selective anger.”

    The exploitation by the bankers has been really a disaster. They have been their own worst enemy and in the end, they have become the symbol that inspires class warfare if not revolution. They are not the representatives of those who produce jobs. They are merely those who wanted to trade with other people’s money for free. When they win, it is their’s, but any losses are passed to the taxpayers. Bankers should be bankers – not hedge fund managers who keep 100% of the profits using other people’s savings.

  27. You probably don’t know me, but like you I am one of those .01%ers, a proud and unapologetic capitalist. I have founded, co-founded and funded more than 30 companies across a range of industries—from itsy-bitsy ones like the night club I started in my 20s to giant ones like Amazon.com, for which I was the first nonfamily investor. Then I founded aQuantive, an Internet advertising company that was sold to Microsoft in 2007 for $6.4 billion. In cash. My friends and I own a bank.


    And what do I see in our future now?

    I see pitchforks.

    At the same time that people like you and me are thriving beyond the dreams of any plutocrats in history, the rest of the country—the 99.99 percent—is lagging far behind. The divide between the haves and have-nots is getting worse really, really fast. In 1980, the top 1 percent controlled about 8 percent of U.S. national income. The bottom 50 percent shared about 18 percent. Today the top 1 percent share about 20 percent; the bottom 50 percent, just 12 percent.

    But the problem isn’t that we have inequality. Some inequality is intrinsic to any high-functioning capitalist economy. The problem is that inequality is at historically high levels and getting worse every day. Our country is rapidly becoming less a capitalist society and more a feudal society. Unless our policies change dramatically, the middle class will disappear, and we will be back to late 18th-century France. Before the revolution.

    And so I have a message for my fellow filthy rich, for all of us who live in our gated bubble worlds: Wake up, people. It won’t last.

    If we don’t do something to fix the glaring inequities in this economy, the pitchforks are going to come for us. No society can sustain this kind of rising inequality. In fact, there is no example in human history where wealth accumulated like this and the pitchforks didn’t eventually come out. You show me a highly unequal society, and I will show you a police state. Or an uprising. There are no counterexamples. None. It’s not if, it’s when.

    Read more: http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2014/06/the-pitchforks-are-coming-for-us-plutocrats-108014.html#ixzz3630bvbsb

  28. Laugh Riot Headline of the Day -

    Saudi king slams religious extremists........drudge


    ISIS is screwed. They are not taking Baghdad much less Saudi Arabia.

    1. Draft Dodger Bob is all in a flux, one day he tells us the partition of Iraq is complete, then he says ISIS is screwed ...
      While the footprints on the ground are much the same, all that has changed, is the direction the smoke is blowing from.

      Jack HawkinsFri Jun 27, 08:46:00 AM EDT

      You wrote two days ago that it was over.

      BobFri Jun 27, 09:26:00 AM EDT

      It is as far as the break up of Iraq is concerned.
      But new forces seem to be coming into focus that may make it much worse.

      Who knows.....

    2. But maybe Bob knows how many dog years are in the Year of the Dog.

  29. Netanyahu says something I agree with:

    The Israeli prime minister, Binyamin Netanyahu, has voiced support for Kurdish statehood, taking a position that appears to clash with the US preference to keep sectarian war-torn Iraq united.

    Israel has maintained discreet military, intelligence and business ties with the Kurds since the 1960s, seeing in the minority ethnic group a buffer against shared Arab adversaries. The Kurds have seized on recent sectarian chaos in Iraq to expand their autonomous northern territory to include Kirkuk, which sits on vast oil deposits that could make the independent state many dream of economically viable.

    But Iraqi Kurds, who have ethnic compatriots in Iran, Turkey and Syria, have hesitated to declare full independence, not least because of the feared response from neighbouring countries.

    "We should ... support the Kurdish aspiration for independence," Netanyahu told Tel Aviv University's INSS thinktank, after outlining what he described as the collapse of Iraq and other Middle East regions as a result of the conflict between Arab Sunni and Shia Muslims. The Kurds, Netanyahu said, "are a fighting people that has proved its political commitment, political moderation, and deserves political independence", and the establishment of an independent Kurdistan would aid in the formation of of a broader alliance between Israel and moderate forces across the region.

    Washington, meanwhile, wants Iraq's crumbling unity restored.


    1. The vision of Oded Yinon versus that of Winston Churchill.

    2. They even had the same history as the Jews, sort of, being gassed once...

  30. Farmer Bob didn't just drink the Conga Line Kool Aid, he even licked the leftover dry powder out of the little packets.

  31. QuirkSun Jun 29, 09:55:00 AM EDT

    Another Anonymous Anonymi shouts defiance from beneath his bed.

    What has the bed to do with obsession?

    1. .

      That depends on whether you are looking at a perfume commercial or a blog.

      I was merely trying to point out, obviously imperfectly, the cowardice of those who hide behind the 'Anonymous' tag when they fear what they have to say may lead to some blow back.


    2. http://news.yahoo.com/iraqi-christians-return-villages-183435204.html
      Iraqi Christians return to villages

      Community leaders estimate there were some 1.5 million Christians in Iraq before the U.S.-led invasion in 2003. Since then, the country's general violence and attacks targeting Christians have caused over half the community to flee.

      It reminds me of the help G.H.W. Bush gave the Kurds after Gulf I.

  32. Sunday, June 29, 2014
    ISIS insurgents appeared to have repelled Iraqi military’s initial push for Tikrit, and remained in control of the city on Sunday - Russian jets to the rescue?

    Well, ISIS and Israel do share an “Is”. “Jeroboam” not so much… 

    ISRAEL prefers al-QAEDASun Jun 29, 09:27:00 AM EDT

    Teresita RedingerSun Jun 29, 09:33:00 AM EDT
    There are twenty-two counties in the US larger than Israel. I'm an American gal. Nothing else matters

    Deuce ☂Sun Jun 29, 09:41:00 AM EDT
    FSA (with Israeli advisors, no doubt) is doing its groundwork so that it gets its check for $500 million form the US

    AnonymousSun Jun 29, 09:45:00 AM EDT
    you have Israel in the brain.

    Israel - damned their country for moneySun Jun 29, 09:56:00 AM EDT

    Deuce ☂Sun Jun 29, 09:43:00 AM EDT
    Link from Jerusalem Post on Israeli training of FSA:

    Teresita RedingerSun Jun 29, 10:37:00 AM EDT
    Under King Jeroboam II’s long reign the Northern Kingdom

    Jack HawkinsSun Jun 29, 11:05:00 AM EDT
    The Israeli government has, to a large extent, continued the Ottoman legal system in regard to land ownership.

    Deuce ☂Sun Jun 29, 02:06:00 PM EDT
    Netanyahu says something I agree with:

    Jack HawkinsSun Jun 29, 02:11:00 PM EDT
    The vision of Oded Yinon versus that of Winston Churchill.

    Teresita RedingerSun Jun 29, 02:37:00 PM EDT
    They even had the same history as the Jews, sort of, being gassed once...

    Teresita RedingerSun Jun 29, 02:42:00 PM EDT
    Farmer Bob didn't just drink the Conga Line Kool Aid

    1. The Yinon Plan: The Zionist Plan for the Middle East

      The current upheavals actually have a resounding resemblance to the objectives of the Yinon Plan of 1982, named after its author Oded Yinon from the Israeli Ministry of Foreign Affairs, which calls for the fracturing of North Africa and the Middle East. The Israeli document may have been written in 1982, but it represents the strategic goals and ideas of Israel. «Breaking Egypt down territorially into distinct geographical regions is the political aim of Israel», according to it. It is a continuation of the colonial project of the British in the region and has been transmitted to American foreign policy, which explains the views of the neocons and Ralph Peters about the «New Middle East» that they seek. The «Clean Break» documented authored by Richard Perle for Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu is also based on the Yinon Plan and informs the current position of the Obama Administration and Netanyahu’s government on Syria.

    2. Preparing the Chessboard for the “Clash of Civilizations”: Divide, Conquer and Rule the “New Middle East”

      The Yinon Plan: Order from Chaos…

      The Yinon Plan, which is a continuation of British stratagem in the Middle East, is an Israeli strategic plan to ensure Israeli regional superiority. It insists and stipulates that Israel must reconfigure its geo-political environment through the balkanization of the surrounding Arab states into smaller and weaker states.

      Israeli strategists viewed Iraq as their biggest strategic challenge from an Arab state. This is why Iraq was outlined as the centerpiece to the balkanization of the Middle East and the Arab World. In Iraq, on the basis of the concepts of the Yinon Plan, Israeli strategists have called for the division of Iraq into a Kurdish state and two Arab states, one for Shiite Muslims and the other for Sunni Muslims. The first step towards establishing this was a war between Iraq and Iran, which the Yinon Plan discusses.

      The Atlantic, in 2008, and the U.S. military’s Armed Forces Journal, in 2006, both published widely circulated maps that closely followed the outline of the Yinon Plan. Aside from a divided Iraq, which the Biden Plan also calls for, the Yinon Plan calls for a divided Lebanon, Egypt, and Syria. The partitioning of Iran, Turkey, Somalia, and Pakistan also all fall into line with these views. The Yinon Plan also calls for dissolution in North Africa and forecasts it as starting from Egypt and then spilling over into Sudan, Libya, and the rest of the region.

      Securing the Realm: Redefining the Arab World…

      Although tweaked, the Yinon Plan is in motion and coming to life under the “Clean Break.” This is through a policy document written in 1996 by Richard Perle and the Study Group on “A New Israeli Strategy Toward 2000″ for Benjamin Netanyahu, the prime minister of Israel at the time. Perle was a former Pentagon under-secretary for Roland Reagan at the time and later a U.S. military advisor to George W. Bush Jr. and the White House. Aside from Perle, the rest of the members of the Study Group on “A New Israeli Strategy Toward 2000″ consisted of James Colbert (Jewish Institute for National Security Affairs), Charles Fairbanks Jr. (Johns Hopkins University), Douglas Feith (Feith and Zell Associates), Robert Loewenberg (Institute for Advanced Strategic and Political Studies), Jonathan Torop (The Washington Institute for Near East Policy), David Wurmser (Institute for Advanced Strategic and Political Studies), and Meyrav Wurmser (Johns Hopkins University). A Clean Break: A New Strategy for Securing the Realm is the full name of this 1996 Israel policy paper.

      In many regards, the U.S. is executing the objectives outlined in Tel Aviv’s 1996 policy paper to secure the “realm.” Moreover, the term “realm” implies the strategic mentality of the authors. A realm refers to either the territory ruled by a monarch or the territories that fall under a monarch’s reign, but are not physically under their control and have vassals running them. In this context, the word realm is being used to denote the Middle East as the kingdom of Tel Aviv.

      The fact that Perle, someone who has essentially been a career Pentagon official, helped author the Israeli paper also makes one ask if the conceptualized sovereign of the realm is either Israel, the United States, or both?


    3. Not to worry, the Mossad will arrest you soon...

      After all the Israelis are all powerful

      They sure as hell KNOW who you are... If I KNOW who you are, THEY know who you are...

  33. Obviously allen yearns for the totalitarianism of Israel, where the government could stomp on the pesky mice that speak their minds ...

    In 2009, Israel ranked 93rd in the Reporters Without Borders Press Freedom Index, down from the previous year.

    In 2013 Israel slipped to 112 out of 179 countries in the press Freedom Index.

    Reporters without borders explained the change was due to Israeli actions in Operation Pillar of Defense during which it said
    "Israel Defense Forces intentionally attacked journalists and buildings where media connected to Hamas had premises".

    The organization also criticized arrests of Palestinian journalists and military censorship

    That shit just don't fly in the USA, so allen has to content himself with his fantasies of fascist control of US.

    1. Wow, another bogus example of the daily if not hours Israel bashing on this thread.

      Just proves my point. Over and over again

  34. They are afraid of words and thoughts;
    words spoken abroad, thoughts stirring at home
    — all the more powerful because forbidden — terrify them.

    A little mouse of thought appears in the room,
    and even the mightiest potentates are thrown into panic.
    They make frantic efforts to bar our thoughts and words;
    they are afraid of the workings of the human mind.

  35. Orthodox Jews Burn New Testaments Given by Christian Missionaries in Israel

    JERUSALEM – Orthodox Jews have burned hundreds of New Testaments in the latest act of violence against Christian missionaries in Israel.

    Uzi Aharon, the deputy mayor of the central Israeli town of Or Yehuda, says he got into a loudspeaker car last Thursday and urged people to turn over hundreds of New Testaments and missionary material recently distributed by missionaries.

    The books were dumped into a pile and religious students set them afire in a lot near a synagogue, he said.

    The Maariv newspaper reported Tuesday that hundreds of students took part in the book-burning.

    There were book burnings in Germany, too. - Circa 1933.
    Presaging an era of state censorship and control of culture.
    On the night of 10 May, in most university towns, nationalist students marched in torchlight parades "against the un-German spirit."

    1. Uzi Aharon, the deputy mayor of the central Israeli town of Or Yehuda, says he got into a loudspeaker car last Thursday and urged people to turn over hundreds of New Testaments and missionary material recently distributed by missionaries.

      That's gonna crimp the collections preachers take from their parishioners across the Bible Belt on behalf the Holy Land. Big time.

    2. Darn the Jews. Daring to live in a society where missionizing is not tolerated. What gaul the Jews have in demanding that Jews in Israel are FREE to not be annoyed, bothered or proselytized one place on the the planet.

      Another thread another Israel/Jew commentary from the bar's jew hating, Israel bashing anti-semites.

      Thanks for reminding me WHY I recommend that Jews arm themselves. After all? Your type would be the ones cheering when they burn the Jews again. And RatJack Hawkins talks about book burnings in Germany? How dare he? He is the type of jew hating, Israel bashing to pop a cork when jewish kids are kidnapped (last week for example)

    3. .

      Thanks, WiO. The most rousing justification of book burning I've ever heard, a real barn burner.


    4. Quirk,

      Nice jab. But it's not "book burning" it's propaganda burning.

      Sorry, but you are not a Jew. You do not understand how missionaries never stop, they don't stop the harassing, the stalking the targeting.

      Maybe if your family and clan had been targets from several hundred years in succession you'd understand.

      Maybe you should walk in our shoes 1st before shooting your uneducated, inexperienced, no matter how well written garbage, about how Jews react to missionary activities.

      Christians have beaten us, burned us, exterminated us and all we want, is in one small corner of the world to stop bothering us.

      Missionaries target jews across the globe. In Israel? It's not permitted.

      Don't like it? Fine, But honestly? Shove your libelous attempt at smearing up your puckered, bias ass...

    5. .

      More bull. The whack jobs on the edges of every religion, every movement, every political faction have done this since uno dia. The commies have done it. The libs have done it. The fascists have done it. The Christians do it. The Muslims do it. And as we see, the Jews do it. If you can't convert or keep your people through logical argument, persuasion, or faith, silence the competition in one way or another. One of the ways these simpletons often choose is to burn books as if that will silence an argument. What happens next, you start stoning people like Muslim fanatics?

      Sadly, the nut jobs will always have enablers like you making up excuses for them.


    6. Quirk, you just don't get it.

      Israel is a refuge for Jews. After the shoah, the expulsions, the murders, the rapes, the pogroms?

      No our situation is unique.

      The Commies murdered us, the Christians murdered us, the fascists murdered us, the arabs/moslems murdered us.

      It's not to much to ask that missionaries stop their bullshit. We are fed up.

      We will not burn the missionaries. Just the propaganda they shit all over the place.

      There is freedom in Israel seek out christian literature if wanted. There is no law preventing New Testaments in Israel.

      However there is the freedom to burn what is given you.

      Jews did not SEIZE christian's books. Jews burned what was freely given.

      Dont like it? Don't give them to us.

    7. It is not the same as "burring books" when the other examples were peoples that TOOK other's property to burn.

      At last check? It's not against the law to burn what is your own property.

      But you said you were smart...

    8. .


      Just like that crazy preacher down in Florida that decided to burn all those copies of the Quran.

      Wack jobs all.

      Quite a crowd you hang with.


  36. George Gordon ByronSun Jun 29, 04:01:00 PM EDT

    “But words are things, and a small drop of ink,
    Falling, like dew, upon a thought produces
    That which makes thousands, perhaps millions think.”

  37. .

    After a speculative piece about who supports ISIS (an interesting subject since every side seems be be charging that the other is the one supporting them) Rufus responds 'I'll wait for the movie'.

    Rat then responds with,

    Jack HawkinsSun Jun 29, 01:30:00 PM EDT

    What is interesting, Rufus, is the timeline of events from March of 2013 through the present.
    Regardless of who said what, to whom, the dots that are visible do tell a story.

    Especially when over laid by the known positions of the "Atlantic Council", CFR and the ever infamous 'Bilderbergs'
    Bilderberg actually talks nukes, euro nationalism and… Barack Obama – leak


    I had to kind of laugh at the last part but my real question is what are the visible dots you are speaking of and what in your opinion are they telling us?

    I took a look at the RT 'expose' and noted that nothing exposed there in the Bilderberg 'secret agenda' seemed all that controversial to discuss for "some of the world’s most influential individuals, politicians, officials, businessmen, academics and European royalty, [who are] regularly gathering to discuss global policy issues." I mean climate change, Barack's foreign policy, nuclear diplomacy, the rise of nationalism in the EU. Heck, I realize the EB is an exclusive group but we talk about these things all the time.

    What I find most interesting is that RT's 'insider' leaked only part of the secret agenda, only seven of the nine agenda items. One can only assume that the remaining two items are, like the third secret of Fatima, just too dangerous or controversial for the public to see at this time.


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  39. BobSun Jun 29, 04:42:00 PM EDT
    ISIS if fucked. They aren't going to take Baghdad.

    'Iraq' is fucked, it will never be put together again.

    The Kurds are getting a break.

    God Bless George Bush the Father of the New Kurdistan, who made it all possible.

    God Bless England, God Save The Queen, The Sun Shall Never Set On The Blessing Endowed Upon Millions By British Imperialism.

    God Bless The English Language.

  40. The Devil has taken little psychopath rat Jack 'Alinsky' Hawkins, the felonious, his favorite hind part.

    May he use him as a soccer ball.

    The folks at The EB shall cheer.

    Cheers !

  41. I Am A Professional AssholeSun Jun 29, 04:51:00 PM EDT

    So said Jack 'felonious rat' Hawkins in open public conservation at The Elephant Bar.

    He meant it too.

    And all agreed with him.

  42. You know it just occurred to me that my Niece, who has never herself owned a car and bikes to work, and who speaks five languages and now a smattering of German, has more education and higher degrees than any of us assholes posting here, maybe even put together.

    And she doesn't drink nor smoke, nor use drugs, and is a vegetarian.

    And has a great sense of humor.

    I am certain she would think this place sucks.

  43. Oh, and God Bless President Obama for extending the sphere of influence of the State of Israel all the way through the New Kurdistan even unto Armenia !

    Happy 4th to all except felonious rat Jack ' professional asshole' Hawkins.

  44. Jack HawkinsSun Jun 29, 03:27:00 PM EDT
    The Yinon Plan: The Zionist Plan for the Middle East

    Jack HawkinsSun Jun 29, 03:27:00 PM EDT
    Preparing the Chessboard for the “Clash of Civilizations”: Divide, Conquer and Rule the “New Middle East”

    What is "Occupation"Sun Jun 29, 05:41:00 PM EDT
    Not to worry, the Mossad will arrest you soon...

    Jack HawkinsSun Jun 29, 03:39:00 PM EDT
    Obviously allen yearns for the totalitarianism of Israel, where the government could stomp on the pesky mice that speak their minds
    [Mice do not have minds, although they do have brains.]

    What is "Occupation"Sun Jun 29, 05:40:00 PM EDT
    Wow, another bogus example of the daily if not hours Israel bashing on this thread.

    Jack HawkinsSun Jun 29, 03:46:00 PM EDT
    Orthodox Jews Burn New Testaments Given by Christian Missionaries in Israel
    [Sport, orthodox Jews talked the French and Italians into burning the works of Maimonides, and I am supposed to be surprised”? We’re talking about guys who throw rocks at women on the Sabbath and beat little girls (tourists) for immodesty. Their virtue is in refusing to defend their own country.]

    Teresita RedingerSun Jun 29, 04:24:00 PM EDT
    Uzi Aharon, the deputy mayor of the central Israeli town of Or Yehuda

    What is "Occupation"Sun Jun 29, 05:39:00 PM EDT
    Darn the Jews. Daring to live in a society where missionizing is not tolerated.

  45. Jack HawkinsSun Jun 29, 03:46:00 PM EDT
    Orthodox Jews Burn New Testaments Given by Christian Missionaries in Israel
    [Sport, orthodox Jews talked the French and Italians into burning the works of Maimonides, and I am supposed to be surprised”? We’re talking about guys who throw rocks at women on the Sabbath and beat little girls (tourists) for immodesty. Their virtue is in refusing to defend their own country.]

  46. Hobby Lobby case tomorrow.

    Prediction: Supreme Court rules narrowly in Hobby Lobby's favor.


    Did you know that the IRS, working under the direction of the Obama Administration, the most corrupt Administration is US history, not only targeted conservative groups, Tea Party groups, groups with the words Patriot or Patriotism in the name, but also groups whose name indicated support for Israel?

    All this pisses off the majority of Americans, and the majority of Americans that support Israel.

    The only person I know that might be delighted by the news that pro-Israel groups were targeted would be our proto-Nazi, our liar in chief, slanderer in chief, Herr Rodent Professional Asshole Extraordinaire, Mr Jack 'Ass' Hawkins.

  47. I guess the ignorant fuckheads didn't notice that Lois Lerner's unit also investigated groups with "Progressive/Left-type" names - ex. groups with the word "Blue" in their name.

    In fact, the only organization that was "denied" was a leftist group.

    No Right Wing/Tea Party Group was ever caused to miss a single Day of operations.

    1. Needless delays did cause down time, which was the cause of all the complaining. Of course, if Ms. Lerner's computer files were available, all the speculation could be put to an end. Conveniently for you and her, it looks like the facts are lost.

      If Mr. Snowden could be spirited back into the country, he might get to the bottom of all the fuss and Ms. Lerner could get back to riding her broom in peace.

    2. You are, once again, babbling about something of which you know zilch.

      First off, a 501-c-4 was not even required to ask permission to operate. Applying was strictly optional. If one Did Apply for "certification," they DID NOT have to delay any operations for so much as a minute.

    3. And, as for the broad's computerfiles, how the availability or non-availability of said files could "convenience," or "inconvenience" Me, I haven't the foggiest.

    4. .

      Though some feign disinterest about the IRS targeting, luckily much of the country is interested,

      Public reaction

      [icon] This section requires expansion. (May 2013)

      Press reaction to the scandal was intense.

      “There is a reasonable fear by all of us, by any of us, that the kind of power the IRS has could be misused,” MSNBC’s Rachel Maddow concurred, noting that the scrutiny that Tea Party groups faced was “not fair.” [132]

      Comedy Central’s Jon Stewart observed that the scandal had removed “the last arrow in your pro-governance quiver,” Stewart said the IRS’s disclosure cast doubt on Obama’s “managerial competence” and had vindicated “conspiracy theorists,” shifting the burden of proof for their wild accusations away from them and onto federal authorities. [133]

      “A truly Nixonian abuse of power by the Obama administration,” wrote ABC News host Terry Moran in reaction to the revelations. [134]

      “It’s time for action,” NBC newsman Tom Brokaw demanded of the president.

      “It didn’t seem like they had a sense of urgency about it, a real sense of outrage,” said NBC’s White House correspondent Chuck Todd. “This is outrageous no matter what political party you are.” [135]

      “This is tyranny,” MSNBC’s Joe Scarborough said of the “unspeakable” abuses by the IRS on his morning news program. "This time it’s real.” [136]

      A poll released by Quinnipiac University on May 30 revealed that 76% of registered voters — including 63% of Democrats — favored the appointment of a special prosecutor to independently investigate the allegations of wrongdoing. Pollster Peter A. Brown said there was "overwhelming bipartisan support" for such an investigation.[137]

      An NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll conducted May 30 to June 2, 2013, found that 55% of respondents believed that the controversy raises questions about the Obama administration's honesty and integrity. This poll found 33% of respondents blamed Obama directly for the actions underlying the controversy. The poll also found the public's confidence in the IRS to be low, with just 10% of respondents expressing confidence in the agency.[1


      Regarding 'lost' e-mails. In a time when every citizen or corporation is forced to back up all financial information required for tax purposes, when the IRS decides to fire the company it hire to store its files two within two weeks of the beginning of the investigation, at a time when the NSA tracks the e-mails of everyone on the planet, are we supposed to believe that all trace of Lois's (as well as those of many of the higher ups she talked to) e-mails for over a two year period have disappeared without a trace?



    5. The Bush administration lost 50,000 emails.

    6. Rufus,

      You may be the most knowledgeable man on the planet (or possibly the second), but there are many well trained specialists who disagree with you. I sure they don't know zilch either. What they do know is that time was wasted needlessly and worst, your brownshirts intimidated average Americans to move your socialist agenda while impeding patriots. That wasted time prevented political actions from occurring when needed and may have changed history. You know very well Lerner and company stalled and obstructed at every occasion and, when trapped, destroyed evidence like common criminals. In another administration, Ms Lerner and company may get to do some time. Your loyalty to the cause will remain true, I am certain: take as much from the earners as possible because that is equality.

    7. :) Who in the fuck are you talking to?

      That hard drive went down in 2011 (2 years before the "investigation" started.)

      The hard drive was turned over to Forensics, and they retrieved what they could.

  48. Jack,

    After all these years of skimming your barrels of anti-Jewish drivel, you still amuse. You know nothing about Jews. If would spend 1/100 of your time reading The Book instead of wallowing in neo-Nazi agitprop on the net, you would know that there are Jewish assholes. That has always been the case. You would also learn why.

    Take my word for it, these “shock” pieces you cut and paste do not shock. You assume I am going to be surprised that there are nasty Jews, well, “No shit, Sherlock.” Last I checked, Jews piss just like everybody else.

  49. Rufus IISun Jun 29, 08:48:00 PM EDT
    You are, once again, babbling about something of which you know zilch.

    First off, a 501-c-4 was not even required to ask permission to operate. Applying was strictly optional. If one Did Apply for "certification," they DID NOT have to delay any operations for so much as a minute.

    You are probably right. This is all a dream. Yea, that must be the case. Right...

  50. If nothing else, the non-obsessive bickering about you know who has tappered off.

    Last I heard, ISIS is still fighting in Tikrit. Armor and air must have willing boots on the ground. Hmm...

  51. Rufus IISun Jun 29, 08:18:00 PM EDT
    I guess the ignorant fuckheads didn't notice that Lois Lerner's unit also investigated groups with "Progressive/Left-type" names - ex. groups with the word "Blue" in their name.

    In fact, the only organization that was "denied" was a leftist group.

    No Right Wing/Tea Party Group was ever caused to miss a single Day of operations.


    They just were delayed forever and ever their longed for tax exempt status.

    Delayed forever is forever denied.

    Get it?

    Rufus it was something on the order of 10 to 1 red v blue that the IRS was into.

    What was done is CRIMINAL. The destruction of evidence is CRIMINAL. The gut who ordered it all, Prez Bozobama, is a CRIMINAL.

    I wonder the ratio was of the number of Presbyterian groups is v the number of pro Israel groups.

    Probably about 100 to 1.

    You are making a fool of yourself. Over 75% of all Americans disagree with you, about an equal number of Pubs and Dems, probably all of them people who taxes.

    1. The guy who ordered it, not the gut ordered it. The guy who ordered it is a kind of gutsy guy though. Think of him as an asshole with a gut.

  52. Concluding sequence of CONTRA RUFUS -

    Further, from the perspective of Hinduism, Buddhism and others, the perennial philosophy, and the monomyth, Christianity, and especially Catholicism, is an inferior religion. The reason is that Christianity teaches the adherent to rely upon the experience and teaching of another person, to have 'faith' in another person's experience, and not strive to have an authentic experience oneself. In Catholicism the adherent is not just one step from an experience of realization, but really two, as one can rely on a second layer of intercessors between oneself, and an experience of realization, of enhanced consciousness, that is, the Priesthood. The urging of Hinduism, Buddhism and others, and the perennial philosophy in general, and the monomyth is to set the person on a path towards this goal him/her self, so that in the end the person needs neither guru, Christ, Buddha, nor faith, nor Priest, but gains the blessing of knowing, not believing, for oneself.

    Of long term concern to religious observers has been the phenomenon of Islam, where the adherent is taught and ordered on the will of Allah to engage in behaviors so outrageous that they obliterate the 'believer' from the possibility of any advance at all towards the Goal in this life and most likely many another. This applies only to the men of Islam. The women, who are perpetually mistreated because they are considered only half human, do not fit into this same category.

    Religious observers also have been alarmed over the more recent phenomenon of the 'lapser' - a term for those Catholics who have 'lost the faith'. This also applies to Lutherans, Methodist, the whole smorgasbord of course.

    These sad souls, who have, reasonably enough, entered grave doubts about being 'saved' through the effort of another, and belief in another, often make exactly the wrong move. They move away from further study, thinking, discussing, and often adopt an attitude that 'life sucks' or that all we have is this wonderous day, misunderstanding the nature of things, which tells us that we do indeed have this day, but more as well. Put simply, they forget the ancient wisdom that what the grave says the nest denies.

    It is sad, as they shut themselves off from further seeking of that experience where one might know that the nature of things is such that the world may be seen as bathed in meaningful love, not futility.

    "The kingdom of the father is spread out over the earth, and people do not see it."

    Mamma said, 'you must save yourself'.

  53. :) :) Well, fuck me running! :) :)

    I guess those tens of thousands of innocent children we killed and maimed in Iraq were

    Bathed in Meaningful Love, Also.

    1. I don't see how anyone can get drunk enough to make this shit up.

  54. It's quite likely that the Supreme Court will announce, in the morning, that it has, effectively, destroyed public sector unions -

    also, that your boss has the right to tailor your group health insurance to whatever the Corporate/His/Her religious beliefs happen to be.

    If you happen to be working for 7th Day Adventists, you might want to scoot over to the "Exchange," and check out what's available.

  55. Well, how about this?

    You Lower Taxes on the Rich, and

    try to make up for the revenue that you know you're going to lose (even though, you swear that revenue will really go up,)

    and, What hoppens?

    Why, your state goes "tits up," of course. What did you think was going to happen?

    Really, Kansas?