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Sunday, June 22, 2014

"It is downright harmful, because it creates a false sense of security ... Complete bullshit. We'll get in conflict with the Germans, Russians and we'll think that everything is super, because we gave the Americans a blow job. Losers. Complete losers."

Polish foreign minister says country's alliance with US worthless
According to a transcript of recordings obtained by Wprost, Radislaw Sikorski said 'we gave the US a blow job'
Reuters in Warsaw theguardian.com
Sunday 22 June 2014 12.00 EDT

A Polish news magazine said on Sunday it had obtained a secret recording of Foreign Minister Radoslaw Sikorski, in contention for a senior European Union job, saying that Poland's relationship with the United States was worthless.
The Wprost news magazine said the recording was of a private conversation earlier this year between Sikorski and Jacek Rostowski, a member of parliament with the ruling Civic Platform who until last year was finance minister.
The magazine did not say who recorded the conversation, or how it obtained the recording.
Aides to Sikorski and Rostowski said they had no immediate comment. A government spokeswoman said it was hard to form a view based on a few excerpts of a conversation, but there might be a comment later.
According to a transcript of excerpts of the conversation that was published by Wprost on its Internet site, Sikorski told Rostowski: "You know that the Polish-US alliance isn't worth anything."
"It is downright harmful, because it creates a false sense of security ... Complete bullshit. We'll get in conflict with the Germans, Russians and we'll think that everything is super, because we gave the Americans a blow job. Losers. Complete losers."
According to the transcript, Sikorski described Warsaw's attitude towards the United States using the Polish word "murzynskosc."
That derives from the word "murzyn," which denotes a dark-skinned person and someone who does the work for somebody else, according to the PWN Polish language dictionary.
The remarks were brief excerpts from a longer conversation between the two men, and it was not immediately clear if Sikorski had made comments elsewhere in the conversation that contradicted those excerpts.
Prime Minister Donald Tusk said last month that Sikorski would be a natural candidate for the job of the EU's top diplomat. The role is filled by Catherine Ashton, but may become vacant when a new European Commission is formed.
Asked by Reuters to comment on the transcript of Sikorski's conversation with Rostowski, foreign ministry spokesman Marcin Wojciechowski said: "We do not comment on media speculation ... Possible comments will be published only after the whole magazine is published."
Government spokeswoman Malgorzata Kidawa-Blonska said the government was waiting for publication of the full recordings before commenting.
"It's hard to relate to something which is just a few sentences taken out of a conversation. We'll comment probably on Monday or Tuesday after the government's sitting," she said.
An aide in Rostowski's parliamentary office said he would not comment "at least until he familiarizes himself with the whole conversation."
Wprost last week published secret recordings of conversations between two other senior officials, central bank chief Marek Belka and Interior Minister Bartlomiej Sienkiewicz.
According to a transcript, the two men discussed the central bank helping the government with the economy if it is facing election defeat, and ways of applying pressure on a businessman. Both man have said their words were taking out of context and that they did not break the law.
The recordings prompted calls from the opposition for the government to step down. A raid by prosecutors on the premises of Wprost magazine to try to seize as yet-unpublished tapes prompted protests over media freedoms.

Tusk said last week that calling an early election was an option if no other way could be found out of the crisis.

Sikorski must have been studying his American History:


  1. OMG, an honest politician that has obviously been studying Washington. Anyone that ties the future of his country to a US politician is nuts.

  2. WE shall see if he backs down and how quickly.

  3. So should America disband?

    Give all the land back to the "natives"?

    Is there a point in modern history that you just have to say "goodbye" to historic claims that date back a hundred or 2000 years?

    Is stewardship and those that manage the land rule who owns it?

  4. The historic claims go back 10,000 years for the American Indians. Draw your conclusions.

  5. That really was not the point of the post. It is interesting to hear an ally, who would really depend on NATO and the US, speak so frankly, albeit in private. Every country, including Israel, should not depend on the US and the US should not depend on anyone else. Look at what happened to thee unfortunates that backed US policy in Viet Nam, Cambodia, Iraq and in Afghanistan.

    All historic claims are nonsense, including those made upon the mythology of the Middle East.

    1. All historic claims are nonsense, including those made upon the mythology of the Middle East.

      So you agree, the Palestinians have no historic claim either.

  6. so when are you giving your holdings and lands to the natives?

  7. there is no debate that indians did LIVE in the Americas for a long time. There were several waves of migration, even some migration of westerners in washington state that date bate several thousand years.

    so does simply living on lands prove "ownership"?

    there are the indian mounds of ohio, the inca's temples, and mayans too...

    What is the historic justice for the natives?

    Of course, my point of view?

    The Jews, having a measly 3000 years in Jerusalem, Hebron and such still hold title and no matter how long ago, 700ce, the invading thieves came? they are still thieves.

    Now you can always say there was someone 1st.

    Yep, but in the case of the unnamed indians and europeans that predate the american indians, and the unnamed peoples that predate the egyptians and the jews? too bad...

    The modern indian tribes left artifacts that date, for the most part to the 11-12 centuries. The Jews left buildings and temples that date back 3200 years. there were no palestinians before 1966 when it was created.

    Now the arab do date back, to arabia in 670, that's when they stole the Jews property of medina...

    The populations of the aggrieved is important. American indians are a remnant of past numbers.

    The Jews are a remnant of the past numbers.

    The arabs? number in the 330 MILLIOn range and hold 899/900th of the middle east and 20% of the 1/900th.

    The American? hold similar number to the Indians...

    What's is the solution?

    1. The ancestors of the Ashkeazi never lived there, in the Middle East..
      So the Ashkenazi have no claim.

      Your entire analogy to the natives of other lands is a fraud.

    2. Deuce: All historic claims are nonsense, including those made upon the mythology of the Middle East.

      Everyone has to live somewhere.

      Just as you live in AZ, Israelis live in Israel.

      Americans live in America and Arabs live in 21 nations that consist of 899/900th of the middle east.

    3. israel is, and it sits on 1/900th of the middle east.

      if all historic claims are shit?

      Then arabs having 899/900th and the jews having 1/900th (less 20% of the 1/900th being held by israeli arabs) seems to be the way it is...

      IF the arabs don't like it? try and take it... Oh they did 5 times and lost more land each time.

      I suggest the arabs try it again, I hear Israel would look good from the Pyramids to Damascus...

  8. Just the highlights, Deuce, of the US past alliances is illustrative of the Polish opinion.

    General Chiang Kai-shek in China was abandoned.
    President Diem of Vietnam was abandoned.
    The Shah of Iran, abandoned.

    Fair weather friend is an apt description of the government of the US.

    1. :) Diem would wish that he'd only been abandoned. :)

      :) Abandonment with Extreme Prejudice :)

    2. An individual might have "friends,"

      but Nations only have Interests.

    3. I was giving JFK the benefit of the doubt.
      That he'd only approved of the coup, not the murder.

    4. :) Ah, looked at that way . . . . okay. :)

    5. Those are just some of the highlights of US perdifery in foreign affairs.

      The list is long, all around the world.
      Just look at Hungary and Czechoslovakia, to the evaporation of support for the anti-Soviets in each of those countries.

      The Montagnard of the highlands of Vietnam.

      The Arabs of Palestine, the position of the US as represented to the Saudi King changed over night.

    6. The US will abandon a 'Democracy' as quickly as it will embrace a 'Tyrant'
      Did both simultaneously in Chile, while Mr Nixon was President.

    7. Did it in the Ukraine, just in the past five months.
      The US had been discussing enhanced trade relations and even NATO membership, right before it engineered the coup that deposed the elected President of the country.

      Look at Libya and the incessant flip flopping of the US in its relationship with Colonel Q.

      Even Saddam Hussein and the green light the US gave him on redrawing the map of Kuwait.
      One of the recent high points of perdifery in the foreign affairs of the US.

  9. We should leave the discussion of Polish claims to our resident Pollack, Mr. Quirk.

    As a Pole through and through for the last X generations. he should know.

    I await Judge Pollack Quirk on this subject.

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  11. BobSun Jun 22, 07:58:00 PM EDT
    Polish Joke -

    How do you capture Quirk when he is drinking water?

    You slam the toilet seat on his head.


  12. HoHoHo--

    What do get get when a Swahilli fucks an Eskimo?

    A north Pole,


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  14. What I'm concerned about is climate change, as any good Democrat should be these days.

    All other issues are before Congressional Committees, or the Courts.

  15. I think it is past time for the Cherokee to pay reparations to the Sioux.

  16. When the Nez Perce finally got the pony, and learned to ride, like the Aryans had thousands of years ago, they immediately traveled over the Bitteroot and raided the Blackfoot buffalo grounds, even coming back with a scalp or two, and plenty meat.

    This should be litigated in Federal Court.

  17. Thankfully the people in the back east and in Pennsylvania wiped out the Injun to the lase sqauw and didn't clog the courts.

    You are an ass, Deuce.

  18. Bob, same first name, though he is Dutch, I'm Swedey.

  19. Judge Who Sentenced Saddam Hussein to Death – Captured & Executed by ISIS

    1. http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2014/06/report-judge-who-sentenced-saddam-hussein-to-death-captured-executed-by-isis/

      Interesting, should I have buttered popcorn or kettle corn?

    2. Sounds like the Baathists have created a new and improved baseball cap to wear, now it says ISIS.


  20. Wanna come, Deuce.

    Celebrate the passing of a wonderful man and a great farmer and friend who taught the Nez Perce to not take scalps?

    I invite you.

    Fly out on your corporate jet.

    1. I have to take issue with that. I've known some pretty good pigs.

    2. smoked? roasted? or sliced into bacon?

  21. I will be shaking the hands of some true living Nez Perce as you motherfuckers are criticizing me.

    You can all go to hell, and particularly you, Chief Drunken Cherokee.

    You even worse than rat, what with your perpetual undercut of hatred.

    1. I just don't like YOU, you racist prick.

    2. Rat is a figment of your imaginationSun Jun 22, 09:04:00 PM EDT

      You lie, dissemble and insult men of higher intellect and whom have all preformed much higher levels of service to the country and humanity than you have.

      Why don't you finally, for once in your life ...
      "Man Up and Move Out"

    3. Rat is still a figment of your imaginationSun Jun 22, 09:39:00 PM EDT


  22. Get off the booze, Rufus, and wake up.

  23. Finally.

    Once and for all.

    Sober up.

  24. I have never heard a Nez Perce say "blow me".

    They are dignified, unlike your ignoble self.

  25. SO Deuce says: All historic claims are nonsense, including those made upon the mythology of the Middle East.

    So nationhood has nothing to do with history, SO does possession = 9/10th of the law?

    China holds Tibet, the Brits, French, Portuguese, Italians (and others) have colonies, Turkey hold Cyrus, Canada holds Quebec, Israel has the west bank and Jerusalem, England holds a part of Ireland and Scotland. The arabs occupy MANY peoples lands...

    If historic claims are bogus, then he who holds it? owns it..

    1. America holds so much, from Hawaii to Guam to Puerto Rico...

      Mexico has historic claims...

      but as Deuce says, All historic claims are nonsense, including those made upon the mythology of the Middle East.

      Then the law is clear, Israel is, Palestine is NOT.

      America IS and the Indians LOST....

  26. I don't like you, either, Rufus.

    My family does not come from slavers, like you.

    I do not like your booze soaked brain, and your inability to read serious things.

    I don't like the way you just fart and blow, and ask for blow jobs.

    I actually don't like you at all.

    You are half Jim Beam, but whether that is your red side or white, I don't know.

    Maybe both.

    At any rate, it is truly disgusting.

  27. I think I shall call you Rufus Beam for now on.

    And will.

  28. from now on

    it shall be Rufus Beam

    1. Bob Should be ExiledSun Jun 22, 09:17:00 PM EDT


    2. Bob Should be ExiledSun Jun 22, 09:17:00 PM EDT

      Wow, Rat is getting desperate.

  29. The Nez Perce were beginning to make claims on the Blackfoot buffalo herds, wit hall the comcomitant fighting, until whitey came along and established the LAW.

    And that was that, as usual, the farmers pushed out the paleolithics,

    Now, having pick up trucks, from Ford Motor Company, they drive round and round, to no particular purpose, and bitch about whitey.

  30. with all the comcimitant fighting

  31. Replies
    1. Rat is a figment of your imaginationSun Jun 22, 09:38:00 PM EDT

      Nah, just disgusted by him.

      You are product of propaganda and religious education, that can be understood, but not Bob.
      His is a racist bigotry that runs deep and has no purpose, no redemption and no excuse.

    2. Bob is a writer of poor fictionSun Jun 22, 09:40:00 PM EDT

      It is the Big White Bull that has sprayed all over his keyboard.


    3. Maybe he was listening to the Rolling Stones?

  32. Bob,

    you know how you like to rant "think about the women" when justifying our military adventures in the Islamic world?

    remember your pride in your 'neice' giving you veto power over her mate?

    see the irony?

    I thought not

  33. You don't make no sense,Ash.

    Why is it that finally hitting on a drunken Cherokee has anything to do with women?

    I think Rufus is a goddamned brain dead half white half red drunken fool.

    It has nothing to do with women.

    Though I mourn for his mother, poor dear.

  34. It had nothing to do with Rufus but rather your hypocrisy with regard to women. I fully expect you to think it nonsense because that just confirms your lack of self awareness and intellectual acumen.

  35. I'm the guy that thinks we oughT to stay in Afghanistan BECAUSE OF THE WOMEN.

    I'm the guy that adopted a Nindu NIECE.

    You are, as always, full of Canadian shit, Noble Ash.

  36. I'm the guy that offered up here the idea of an Afghanistan Division, all volunteer, to HELP THE WOMEN OF AFGHANISTAN.

    Go jerk off in some ally, Ignoble Ash.

    I'm the guy that has put a Hindu LADY of no worldly means but a truly great mind in my will.


  37. And you fuck off too, Rufus.

    1. You are one sad, psycho-sexually, fucked up mess, bubba.

    2. You part with some of your Budweiser Money to help a young LADY, asshole, then get back to me.

      You are just another whining Injun that has gotten really good at it.

      You who have saved "uncounted lives" by selling car insurance.

      Fuck off Rufus, Budweiser Brain.

  38. Israel carries out airstrikes in Syria.

    1. ISRAEL prefers al-QAEDASun Jun 22, 11:14:00 PM EDT

      So said Ambassador Oren
      in the JPost

    2. yep for murdering a 15 year old arab kid and wounding 3 others driving in a civilian truck on the golan.

      rufus, what would you do? Give them land? Blow them? Share your brew?

    3. Actually Israel prefers al-queda and the syrians both destroyed...

      but as ISIS/the baathists reek destruction on the shia? And the Syrian Alawites and Hezbollah reek destruction on the Sunni?

      I will eat popcorn..

    4. both sides suck... as I said here YEARS ago...

    5. Move the civilians out of the impact area.

      Then if that was not enough, target those that fired into Israel, not just the Syrian troops loyal to Assad.
      Especially if they were not the shooters.

      It just provides ISIS more reason to shoot Israelis.

      Shoot one Israeli, get five airstrikes against Assad;s forces. Good deal if the shooter is fighting Assad. Bad deal for Israeli civilians, but then, again, the Israeli Government prefers al-Qeada.

    6. The "rebels" will have sniper hides all along the Israeli frontier, to target civilians if after every kill the Israelis run airstrikes against Assad.

      That would be classified as a "Win-Win' for the Muslim Terrorists!

    7. But that is what Bibi wants

      He prefers al-Qeada.

    8. Who's the "Puppet", and who's the "Master", now.

      The Muslims have Bibi dancing to their tune,
      Doing their bidding ... The terrorists will be killing Israelis and watching Bibi jump on Assad...

      What a clever fellow, that Bibi.

    9. commander of the Al Queda Air Force

  39. Sen. Rand Paul, R-Ky., offered some bipartisan backup to President Obama on the subject of Iraq Sunday, saying many critics who blame the president for the ferocious Islamist insurgency there, like former Vice President Dick Cheney, should take a look in the mirror.


  40. Obama: ISIS poses "medium and long-term" threat to Americans

    "I think it's important for us to recognize that ISIS is just one of a number of organizations that we have to stay focused on," Mr. Obama said, noting that groups like al Qaeda and Boko Haram, the group that kidnapped hundreds of young women in Nigeria, are still active.

    "This is going to be a global challenge and one that the United States is going to have to address but we're not going to be able to address it alone. And as I said yesterday, what we can't do is think that we're just going to play whack-a-mole and send U.S. troops occupying various countries wherever these organizations pop up," the president said. "We're going to have to have a more focused, more targeted strategy and we're going to have to partner and train local law enforcement and military to do their jobs as well."

  41. ISRAEL prefers al-QAEDASun Jun 22, 11:54:00 PM EDT

    What is "Occupation" Sun Jun 22, 11:28:00 PM EDT

    both sides suck... as I said here YEARS ago...

    You do not speak for Israel, Ambassador Oren does and he said, in no uncertain terms, to the JPost.

    Israel prefers al-Qeada

    Get in step, boy.

  42. More white evangelicals than American Jews say God gave Israel to the Jewish people

    Pew Research

    Figures don't lie.

    1. Twice as many, percentagewise

      82% of White Evangelicals

      40% of Net Jews


    2. White evangelical Protestants are less optimistic than Jews about the prospects for a peaceful two-state solution to conflict in the region. When asked if there is a way for Israel and an independent Palestinian state to coexist peacefully, ... Among white evangelical Protestants, 42% say Israel and an independent Palestinian state can coexist peacefully, while 50% say this is not possible.

      The Baptists that I know, that have expressed that "God gave Israel to the Jews" and that the Jew were "Chosen" do, to a remarkable degree are hoping, praying, for the Rapture and then Apocalypse. They yearn for the end of time war to begin, as it harkens the return of their God to the world and a thousand years of life on their knees.

  43. This is one of the most interesting charts that I've seen in a long time:

    Real Earnings

    1. Here's the article explaining how the chart was developed


  44. What's your point, ratto?

    If you were surrounded by screeching monkeys you'd make a choice too.

    I think of all the monkeys the Israelis actually prefer the Egyptian military, who have, after all, shown a little good sense over the years.

    1. Rat is a figment of your imaginationMon Jun 23, 12:38:00 AM EDT


  45. Mumma abandoned me, like I did my daughter, just to get even.

    1. You typed it, it must be true.
      You realize the internal subconscious projection, the truth of the confession you are making, don't you?

  46. Do you recall when I bragged about my love of being A PROFESSIONAL ASSHOLE?????

    It wasn't that long ago. Jog you memory, go look it up.


    (It is on record)


    1. You truly are, no doubt of that

  48. And proud of it.

    Let;s see you beat that !!!!!!!!!!

    hah hah hah

    1. You typed it, it is your confession.
      There is nothing to beat.

      There is not even pity for you

    2. Jack is a fictional character and would certainly would never speak for you.

      You are, as you wrote, a living piece of shit.

      There is no pity for you.

    3. From your fingers, to our eyes ....

      No way anyone can beat that, not any better than you already have.

  49. The IRS scandal is the worst of them. This is targeting individual USA citizens.

    It is not like running guns, nor truly fucking up foreign policy, nor letting a few citizens die in Benghazi for political benefit.

    The Obama Administration is a criminal enterprise.

    Impeachment in the House in now in order.