THE NEW LEADER OF THE CALIPH - THE US HAD HIM AS A PRISONER:
“See you in New York.”
Brookings analyst Charles Lister explains more about why he thinks the caliphate announcement is so significant.
In an email briefing he writes:
The impact of this announcement will be global as al-Qaida affiliates and independent jihadist groups must now definitively choose to support and join the Islamic State or to oppose it. The Islamic State’s announcement made it clear that it would perceive any group that failed to pledge allegiance an enemy of Islam. Already, this new Islamic State has received statements of support and opposition from jihadist factions in Syria – this period of judgment is extremely important and will likely continue for some time to come.
In retrospect, one could surmise that ISI and then ISIS, has been working towards this point for years now. As an organization, ISIS has become the wealthiest militant group in the world with assets in the low $ billions and has developed an almost obsessive level of bureaucracy, account keeping, and centrally controlled but locally implemented military-political coordination. Moreover, since the seizure of territory and crucially, population, in areas of Syria in 2013, it has developed an increasingly efficient model of governance, capable of simultaneously implementing harsh medieval justice and a whole range of modern social services.
Geographically, ISIS is already fully operational in Iraq and Syria; it has a covert presence in southern Turkey, appears to be establishing a small presence in Lebanon; and has supporters in Jordan, Gaza, the Sinai, Indonesia, Saudi Arabia and elsewhere. This could well be the birth of a totally new era of transnational jihadism.
Perhaps most significantly, this announcement poses a huge threat to al-Qaida and its long-time position of leadership of the international jihadist cause. Put simply, Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi [pictured] has declared war on Al-Qaida. While it is now inevitable that members and prominent supporters of al-Qaida and its affiliates will rapidly move to denounce Baghdadi and this announcement, it is the long-term implications that may prove more significant. Taken globally, the younger generation of the jihadist community is becoming more and more supportive of ISIS, largely out of fealty to its slick and proven capacity for attaining rapid results through brutality. The recent seizure of Mosul and other gains in Iraq has already dramatically boosted ISIS’ recruitment potential, but this announcement will likely make recent events seem very minor in comparison. Nonetheless, al-Qaida will retain considerable support and once the dust has settled, we will very likely find ourselves in a dualistic position of having two competing international jihadist representatives – al-Qaida, with a now more locally-focused and gradual approach to success; and the Islamic State, with a hunger for rapid results and total hostility for competition.
In Iraq, the announcement will pose a significant risk of provoking other Sunni-composed groups fighting the government to turn against ISIS, thereby potentially precipitating a new, third front within the emerging Iraqi civil conflict. On the other hand, the huge morale boost this will create within ISIS circles in Iraq could help spur on an eventual push on Baghdad. Whatever judgments are made, an increase in violence in Iraq can be expected in the immediate term ...
Intriguingly, it is only a Caliph that has the legal legitimacy to declare or order an offensive jihad. This announcement makes it all the more plausible that Baghdadi may position his forces to begin operations further afield, perhaps in Jordan or Saudi Arabia. Even before this announcement, the chance that ISIS could have chosen to expand its target set looked to be increasing, but now, that looks almost to be a certainty.
Was it George Will or was it George Wallace who observed that politicians in Mississippi take the 5th concurrent with the Oath of Office?
ReplyDeleteSomeone earlier poked fun at ISIS's "grandiose" map of its world. They organization may evaporate quickly, but it ought to be recalled that Mao began with literally a handful of followers. By winning over the rural population with social services and justice and killing off his adversaries, Mao won. Don't sell these guys short.
ReplyDeleteSocial justice, seriously? Crucifixions along the road ala Spartacus?
DeleteAmen Brother Allen
DeleteThe Iranian Government is shitting today.
DeleteIran, which is almost 57% non-persian is waking up. The non-persians are angry and are motivated.
Look for things to start happening again, inside Iran to railroads, comm links, infrastructure and even nuke plants and supply.
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DeleteNever waste a good crisis.
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Well if we have a President that liked America we'd be drilling for oil, natural gas and driving the price of oil thru the floor.
DeleteGiving OPEC, Russia, Iran and assorted other players a big fat kick in the wallet.
Never waste a good crisis.
DeleteAnd never answer a simple question.
Teresita RedingerMon Jun 30, 09:02:00 AM EDT
DeleteSocial justice
...your phrase, not mine...
The problem with being the "New" Bin Laden is that we killed the Old "Bin Laden."
ReplyDeleteIt's akin to being promoted to "target" on the Marine Corps Firing Range.
ReplyDeleteHow long did it take to hit that first target? Ten years? The new kid on the block is doing more damage in the region than OB ever dreamed possible. He is also doing it in record time. Who knows what he will have "accomplished" in ten years. Deuce is correct, these guys are on a mission and they are wired.
DeleteAs for death, I don't think his longevity rates highly on his "to do" list; he is not a Westerner. Yea, I know you think everybody views life identically, i.e. tits, ass, and booze, but Islam proves the contrary.
Shia Iraq can put all the boots on the ground it can find; it cannot keep them from advancing "to the rear march" at "double-time". The US et al can provide lots of expensive toys; it won't matter without troops holding ground. These guys are being led by a military man (men), intimately familiar with Western doctrine. When they start using Western technology against Western technology, things are going to get interesting fast.
ISIS is fighting with all the vigor of the Viet Cong on steroids and meth.
ReplyDeleteThe offensive, during which more than 100 towns and cities were attacked, began during the early hours of 31 January 1968. The first assaults achieved almost complete surprise, not least because they occurred over the Chinese New Year or Tet holiday period, which, according to recent tradition, was a time of truce. In many places the Viet Cong were astonishingly successful; in the former capital, Hue, they took control of a large part of the city. The most spectacular Viet Cong successes were, however, in the South Vietnamese capital Saigon, where a number of government buildings were attacked. An elite Viet Cong squad even managed to fight its way into the grounds of the American embassy.
DeleteAlthough most of the attacks were quickly defeated, in Hue and at the American provincial base at Khe Sahn Tet signalled the beginning of protracted battles. Yet there was no “general uprising” in South Vietnam. The “quick victory” had turned into a disastrous defeat and recriminations within the communist leadership soon followed. With the Viet Cong decimated
DeleteThe “quick victory” had turned into a disastrous defeat and recriminations within the communist leadership soon followed.
With the Viet Cong decimated
The NVA and Viet Cong were not decimated. They were destroyed and out of reserves. Uncle Walter's America was out of nerve.
Deleteallen, better get back to class.
Deletedec·i·mate
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verb
past tense: decimated; past participle: decimated
1.
kill, destroy, or remove a large percentage or part of.
literally 1/10, Dipshit...You did not get a GED either, did you?
Deletedecimate (v.) Look up decimate at Dictionary.com
c.1600, in reference to the practice of punishing mutinous military units by capital execution of one in every 10, by lot; from Latin decimatus, past participle of decimare (see decimation). Killing one in ten, chosen by lots, from a rebellious city or a mutinous army was a common punishment in classical times. The word has been used (incorrectly, to the irritation of pedants) since 1660s for "destroy a large portion of." Related: Decimated; decimating.
Such name calling, allen, proving again that ...
DeleteAd hominem arguments are a preferred tool for people who ran out of real arguments
(or are unable to understand someone else's opinion in the first place).
It's so much easier to just attack another person instead of attacking his arguments
(especially if the other person is right.)
literally, 1/10, etymologically and used by the Romans and Europe for over 2,000 years...
DeleteWhat do you call a jackoff who steals another man's name and work, Ellis? Gee, I just did, "jackoff". I could have said you were a lying thief, but “jackoff” more accurately captured you to the mind’s eye – a little fellow playing with his little fellow while frantically trying to surf the net.
We made end up with two Caliphates, Avignon and Rome?
ReplyDeleteThe liberation of Constantinople would be a good thing.
DeleteIslam needs to be driven back to Arabia.
Well that won’t happen.
DeleteLOL never say never...
DeleteThe 2013–14 protests in Turkey are a wave of demonstrations and civil unrest in Turkey, which began on 28 May 2013, initially to contest the urban development plan for Istanbul's Taksim Gezi Park. The protests were sparked by outrage at the violent eviction of a sit-in at the park protesting the plan.[79] Subsequently, supporting protests and strikes took place across Turkey protesting a wide range of concerns, at the core of which were issues of freedom of the press, of expression, assembly, and the government's encroachment on Turkey's secularism. With no centralised leadership beyond the small assembly that organized the original environmental protest, the protests have been compared to the Occupy movement and the May 1968 events. Social media played a key part in the protests, not least because much of the Turkish media downplayed the protests, particularly in the early stages. 3.5 million of Turkey's 80 million people are estimated to have taken an active part in almost 5,000 demonstrations across Turkey connected with the original Gezi Park protest.[80] 11 people were killed and more than 8,000 were injured, many critically.[80][80][81]
DeleteIt's only just begun....
Islam is in a state of self immolation.
DeleteMy advise? Buy popcorn.
Deuce ☂Mon Jun 30, 09:11:00 AM EDT
DeleteWe made end up with two Caliphates, Avignon and Rome?
...or three...
Islam needs to be driven back to Arabia.
ReplyDeleteSure, as long as you can sit back here in the rear with the gear and send veteran assholes to do it for you, right?
Not to worry, you'd NEVER be asked to do anything but play Pong on your 25 year old Commodore 64.
DeleteIslam is doing a FINE job at suicide. No need for fake posers like you to worry.
DeleteThe truth? Demographics.
Islam is dying.
Just let it do it to it's self.
AnonymousMon Jun 30, 10:27:00 AM EDT
DeleteThe truth? Demographics.
Islam is dying.
...and that's the truth...
“Its universities [Iranian] have competent demographers who helped frame the first studies of Iran’s fertility decline, and its leaders have inveighed for years against the failure of Iranian women to bear children. Persian-language websites warn of the tidal wave of elderly dependents who will swamp Iran’s economy.”
ISIS is fighting with all the vigor of the Viet Cong on steroids and meth.
ReplyDeleteNow all they need is a jungle supply trail that can't be cut off from the air.
Such a deep thinker this Teresita Redinger is.
DeleteThinking in terms of Vietnam and "supply" routes
Vietnam 127,881 sq miles
Iran 636,400 sq miles
Iraq 168,754 sq miles
Syria 71,998 sq miles
Size of Alaska 663,300 sq miles
Might I politely suggest that the ISIS, bordering on numerous nations and comprising a land mass larger than Alaska has supply routes the Viet Cong could only dream of...
Once again you speak above your pay grade. (and you are way over paid)
Teresita RedingerMon Jun 30, 09:19:00 AM EDT
DeleteISIS is fighting with all the vigor of the Viet Cong on steroids and meth.
Now all they need is a jungle supply trail that can't be cut off from the air.
When and where was that successful?
We need to mind our own business, protect our national borders and alliances and advance the secular and the lessers of the crazies.
ReplyDelete"Roger, that," Good Buddy.
DeleteWe've got some Big problems, right here on the home front.
And, it don't appear that they're going to get any better, anytime soon.
The Oligarchy would really, really like to see us distracted by another severe case of "stupid war fever."
DeleteHopefully Obama is too smart to be goaded down this rabbit hole. These religious fanatics are just looking for a holy war, it is what they really want, we in the west are being goaded into fighting it and giving them just what they desire, they are seeking to create extremism in every country by implying that all Muslims should join them on their holy Jihad, this is not going to get any better or end well.
ReplyDeletehttp://www.nytimes.com/2014/01/04/world/asia/uttar-pradesh-religious-violence.html
ReplyDeleteAfter Fleeing Violence, Many Indian Muslims Refuse to Return Home
an estimated 15,000 Muslims remain in sprawling makeshift tent cities in the northern state of Uttar Pradesh, refusing to believe it is safe to return. In deepening cold, family members slept clinging to one another for warmth while icy water dripped through the tarps overhead. By mid-December, according to the government, 35 children in the camps had died.
Yes, in India crimes against women go unchecked. It is a horrid country.
DeleteLUCKNOW: Uttar Pradesh Assembly today witnessed uproarious scenes on the issue of rising cases of crime against women and communal violence in the state, with opposition BSP and BJP staging separate walkouts during Question Hour.
As soon as the Question Hour began, agitated BSP members voiced serious concern over rising crime against women and accused the Samajwadi Party government of failing to check such incidents.
Leader of the Opposition Swami Prasad Maurya (BSP) said Chief Minister Akhilesh Yadav had accepted that there were 736 incidents of rapes between January and March, and described as insufficient the initiatives taken by the government to check crime against women.
More evidence that India is an abomination, not ready for the real world.
DeleteViolent protests in Uttar Pradesh’s Firozabad over killing of two constables
FIROZABAD (UP): Violent protests broke out on Monday in which several persons, including a DIG of police, were injured following the killing of two police constables by unidentified assailants.
Protests erupted in the city at Subhash crossing near the district hospital with locals demanding immediate arrest of those involved in the killing of the two constables last night at Sailai road.
DIG (range) Vijay Singh Meena was one of those injured as the irate crowd resorted to brick-batting. Several shops and vehicles were damaged by the angry mob which also blocked the road and set a police vehicle on fire.
Prime Minister Narendra Modi of India admits that women are not protected in India, they should be, but they are not.
DeleteIndia is a backwards country, where the police are criminals.
"People who are trying to worsen law and order situation of Uttar Pradesh are somewhat getting protection from the government. We have noticed the government is justifying the criminal acts of people," he said.
Congress Party leader Rashid Alvi said Uttar Pradesh should be "divided," so that governance could be done "in a better way."
During his first speech to parliament, on Wednesday, Prime Minister Narendra Modi urged lawmakers to stop "politicizing" rape and instead work together to ensure women's safety.
He said "respecting and protecting women" should be a priority in India.
Islamic Civilization is Dying
ReplyDeleteDavid P. Goldman is best known for his "Spengler" column at Asia Times Online, which draws a million readers a month.
Mr. Goldman opened his talk by highlighting the widespread disappointment with the deterioration of the "Arab Spring" into an Islamist resurgence. He cautioned that the U.S. must learn to live with instability, as nothing in its power would enable it to stabilize the Middle East, yet noted that this was not necessarily the end of the world; Ronald Reagan was able to exploit it for the national interest in the case of the Iran-Iraq war of the 1980s.
Rather than focus on Islamism and its conflict with modernity as chief culprit for this instability, Mr. Goldman pointed to the massive decline in Muslim birthrates attending the growing education of women. Iranian women, for example, used to bear 7 children on average; now the rate has fallen to 1.5, with the most highly educated subgroup approaching a fertility rate of 1.0. Such an inverted population pyramid means that fewer and fewer young people will be forced to support a growing but aging populace. This is not some pipe dream of Western demographers; President Ahmadinejad himself has called the decision by Iranian youth not to have children an act of genocide against the Iranian nation.
Turkey, which also boasts a high literacy rate, including among its women, has seen the fertility rate among ethnic Turks declining to 1.5 children per woman. At the same time, Turkey's restive Kurdish population is now some 20% of the citizenry, with Kurdish women averaging 4.5 children. If this trend continues, and there seems to be no reason it will not, the inverting Turkish population pyramid will be overwhelmed by the "normal" Kurdish one, in essence creating a Kurdistan within the borders of Turkey, a situation fraught with the potential for intensified conflict.
The population decline of these two Muslim countries is to be contrasted with Egypt with its 45% illiteracy rate, and where two thirds of the population lives in rural areas relatively untouched by education or opportunities for women. Combine Egypt's burgeoning population with its diploma mill universities (producing essentially unemployable graduates), its reliance on imports for half its caloric consumption, and its draw-down of hard currency reserves and one has what can be viewed as a "perfect storm" for upheaval and potential chaos.
David P. Goldman, he is the fellow that wrote about Isrsel, so vividly.
DeleteSpengler's Universal Law #9: A country isn't beaten until it sells its women,
but it's damned when its women sell themselves.
Spengler is mistaken. Islam is evolving. It is not going anywhere. Look at the videos of the fighters. These guys are juiced.
DeleteGaius Obamus Golfus gets curbstomped by SCOTUS over Hobby Lobby
ReplyDeleteAlong with 100 Million American women.
DeleteGuess who'll recover quicker.
DeleteWIO: Vietnam 127,881 sq miles
ReplyDeleteIran 636,400 sq miles
Iraq 168,754 sq miles
Syria 71,998 sq miles
How much of that Middle-Eastern territory is jungle cover, Einstein?
Add in Cambodia, Laos and Thailand, to get an accurate analogy.
DeleteLet's compare apples to apples, not to oranges
Then factor population, topography, and as Ms T mentions the flora.
DeleteThis current rendition of an Anonymous Anoni is not a very capable contributor.
And, while you're at it, add in the ports of Hanoi and Haiphong, and China and Russia, with 15,000 Nukes strapped to their web belts, steadily shipping them guns and bullets.
DeleteMiddle East
ReplyDeleteIsraeli leader calls for independent Kurdistan
Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu calls for supporting independent Kurdistan, as Iraq reels from a radical Sunni insurgency which has been slowed by Kurdish forces. ( / Reuters)
BY ASSOCIATED PRESS June 29 at 4:22 PM
TEL AVIV, Israel — Seizing on the mayhem in Iraq, Israel’s prime minister on Sunday called for the establishment of an independent Kurdistan as part of a broader alliance with moderate forces across the region, and asserted that Israel would have to maintain a long-term military presence in the West Bank to keep a jihadi juggernaut from powering its way to the outskirts of Tel Aviv.
Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu laid out his positions in a policy speech that marked one of the most detailed responses by a world leader to the lightning territorial gains made in recent weeks by Sunni extremists fighting in Iraq, and it underscored how profoundly events can ripple across an increasingly interlocked Middle East.
Netanyahu suggested that the territorial gains made this month by the Al Qaida-inspired jihadi group called the Islamic State in Iraq and the Levant could endanger neighboring Jordan, with which Israel has a peace agreement it considers vital to its security. The group has recently captured wide swaths of Iraq including the important cities of Mosul and Tikrit and several border crossings with Syria, and on Sunday formally declared a caliphate, or an Islam-ruled state, on territory it controls in both countries.
The offensive by the Islamic State’s militants “can be aimed toward Jordan in the shortest time,” Netanyahu warned. Without stating outright that the Western-leaning Jordanian monarchy could fall, Netanyahu suggested as much by saying that the new developments meant a need for Israel to hold on to the West Bank border with the Hashemite kingdom, along the Jordan River.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/middle_east/israeli-leader-calls-for-independent-kurdistan/2014/06/29/67feef7e-ffb4-11e3-bcdc-2af6ecb203a9_story.html
(nice file photo of the great man too)
Speaking of photos of Bibi ...
DeleteHere are some of Bibi giving solace to al-Qeada terrorists in an Israeli hospital
http://www.tlvfaces.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/bibi-2.jpg
http://syrianfreepress.files.wordpress.com/2014/02/netanyahu-visits-in-israeli-hospitals-terrorists-injured-in-syria-2.jpg
Open thread: SCOTUSocalypse Monday with Hobby Lobby, Harris v Quinn; Update: Harris first, unions lose 5-4; Update: Hobby Lobby wins, 5-4
ReplyDeleteJun 30, 2014 9:51 AM by Ed Morrissey
Ah, good. All is well at the Supreme Court this day, but just barely.
I despise bible-thumpers with every last bone in my body.
ReplyDeleteThey at least don't wish you blow you up as the moslems wish to do.
DeleteAre you nuts, Draft Dodger Bob?
DeleteChristians, Bible Thumpers, are the folks that committed genocide against the natives of North America.
Your view of history is certainly skewed.
We'll bury your heart at Wounded Knee.
DeleteYet!!
DeleteI see no difference between the Muslim assholes, and the Christian, or Jew assholes.
None of them have the interests of me, or mine, at heart.
Fuck'em.
What? The Rufus People run out the Solutreans long ago, and put the Sioux on a trail of tears, and enslaved blacks.
DeleteAll thumpers wish to do is save Ruf's liver by getting him off the booze, and save his very soul, Professional AssHole Jack.
And you stole that rich bottom land, Professional Assole lil' PsychoRat.
DeleteThe comparison with Viet Nam is the level of motivation of the fighters. These guys will kill and die for the cause.
ReplyDeleteI could be wrong - I quite often am :) - but, I have a hunch that they are getting ready to enter that "dying" phase, pretty soon, now. :)
DeleteHowever, when it comes to "motivation," I have to agree with you. These guys look every bit as motivated a Charlie.
Delete"God," and "Country" are Both powerful motivators.
Fleming, 38, and Jackson, 47, will be among thousands of registered domestic partners who will start the week married in the eyes of the state, under a component of Washington's same-sex marriage law that was approved by voters at the end of 2012. A provision of that law converts all same-sex domestic partnerships — in which both partners are under 62 years old — to marriage on June 30.
ReplyDeleteGroovyness and groovosity.
The comparison with Viet Nam is the level of motivation of the fighters. These guys will kill and die for the cause.
ReplyDeleteVietnam was fighting for independence. These bozos are fighting for a certain interpretation of a 1,400 year old book.
You are really clueless…
DeleteNot at all, Anonymous Anoni.
DeleteWe have lots of clues.
I am suddenly getting an amazing amount of special pleading from Obama, Michelle, all the lefty organization in my email in box these days.
ReplyDeleteI subscribe to them to 'keep an eye on'.
They must be really worried about something or other these days.
It's always 'we need money now'........
You should send them money, Draft Dodger Bob, after all they reamed your ass and removed the cancer.
DeleteOught to be grateful for that.
No one else is.
That is a really stupid thing to say, Professional AssHole Dead Beat DadRat.
DeleteEveryone would be grateful if they put you in prisoner, Death Threatener, Printer of People's Addresses on the internet, all round piece of shit.
I'm sure as fuck, Not.
DeleteYou should adopt one of those young girls coming over the border and save her from prostitution, instead of worrying about Israel twenty times daily, but you won't. It involves effort, PARat.
DeleteTypical bible-thumping asshole. Wants other people to suffer, and die, but takes the free government treatment to save his own aged, worthless ass.
DeleteExactly, Rufus, Draft Dodger Bob is welfare king.
DeleteWould get his benefits, then head off to the casino to gamble 'em away.
I woory about Israel because we have so much invested there.
And that money is going down a rat hole.
The country of Israel has rejected the God of Abraham, has embraced prostitution and promotes homosexual activities.
Now, I have no problem with same sex couples, but the idea that the US government is subsidizing the marketing of the Israeli sex trade, AC/DC. ... Wow, my Baptist friends don't know that, they would be shocked to discover that Israel has rejected the Book of Leviticus.
We are going to inform them, here.
That Spengler has a Law regarding prostitution, that when women sell themselves it damns their country, well ...
I worry about the investment the US has made in Israel. Damn.
So, Draft Dodger Bob, don't worry about me, don't worry about what I write about, because we are "On Time, On Target" and will Keep on Keepin' on!
DeleteI worry about Israel because we have so much invested there.
I guess if the Israeli were to return the $10 billion the US has invested in Israel, that'd change my attitude.
Don't see that happening, though, so I have to try to protect our investment.
Shame them into getting "Right" with the God of Abraham.
DeleteGod of Abraham, or God of Elsie the Magic Milk Cow,
Deletefuck all the bible-thumping sonofabitches that would deny healthcare to the poorest, and least fortunate wives, and daughters, among us.
Free condoms for the bitches… Yeah...
DeleteJuan Cole Checks in:
ReplyDeleteThe Debacle of the Caliphates: Why al-Baghdadi’s Grandiosity doesn’t Matter
By Juan Cole | Jun. 30, 2014 |
Ibrahim al-Badri, a run-of-the-mill Sunni Iraqi cleric, gained a degree from the University of Baghdad at a time when pedagogy there had collapsed because of the Saddam Hussein dictatorship and international sanctions. After 2003 he took the name Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi and turned to a vicious and psychopathic violence involving blowing up children at ice cream shops and blowing up gerbils and garden snakes at pet shops and blowing up family weddings, then coming back and blowing up the resultant funerals. This man is one of the most infamous serial killers in modern history, with the blood of thousands on his hands, before whom Jeffrey Dahmer and Ted Bundy fade into insignificance.
Al-Baghdadi leads the so-called Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (ISIS or ISIL), which today changed its name just to “the Islamic State.” And its members made a pledge of fealty to al-Baghdadi as the “caliph.” Let us please call it the “so-called Islamic State,” since it bears all the resemblance to mainstream Islam that Japan’s Om Shinrikyo (which let sarin gas into the subway in 1995) bears to Buddhism.
After the death of the Prophet Muhammad in 632 in Medina, West Arabia, the clans of Mecca favored as his successor notables of his noble clan, the Quraysh (the “Little Shark Tribe”). The first three were Abu Bakr, Omar and `Uthman.
Some clans in the neighboring city of Medina preferred a dynastic principle, wanting to see a close relative of Muhammad succeed him as his vicar. They favored Ali ibn Abi Talib, his cousin and son-in-law, i.e., the closest thing he had to a living son at the time of his death. Ali was passed over three times by the notables in Mecca but finally became the fourth caliph in 656 AD. He was, however, assassinated in 661 only five years later. Those Muslims who accepted the first four “Orthodox caliphs” gradually became known as ‘people of the tradition,’ or ahl al-sunnah, i.e., the Sunnis.
The groups that became the Shiites think of Ali as the first vicar of the Prophet, or “Imam,” and believe his office should rightfully have gone to his sons Hasan and Husain, and then to Husain’s son, and so on through the generations. Most Shiites today believe that the Twelfth Imam disappeared as a small child but will one day reveal himself again and restore the world to justice, as the Mahdi.
After Ali’s assassination, the Umayyad kings ruled (661-750), and though some scholars have found that they claimed religious charisma, they were just Arab kings. A branch of the family of the Prophet tracing itself back to his uncle Abbas began making claims to rightful rule, however, and they were popular among the new converts from among the Persians in Iran, and in 750 they made a revolution against the Umayyads. They became the Abbasid caliphate, ruling until the Mongol conquest of Baghdad in 1258.
The Abbasid caliphs gradually separated out their religious authority from secular authority, and later on rulers like the Buyids took Baghdad and gave the caliphs a stipend and limited the reach of their authority. Ira Lapidus argued that there was a de facto separation of religion and state in the Abbasid period.
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DeleteAfter the embarrassing end of the caliphate at the hands of the Buddhist and animist Mongols, some attempts were made to revive the institution. They failed. The Mamluk state in Egypt in the medieval period maintained that a relative of the last caliph had escaped the Mongols to Cairo, and they maintained what some have called a “shadow caliphate” (Khilafah suriya) or pro forma caliphate. I don’t know of any Muslims who know the names of those supposed caliphs, or who refer to any of their rulings. I doubt they were widely recognized.
Although subsequent sultans or secular emperors sometimes were termed “caliphs” in flowery style by their courtiers, I can’t find any evidence of anyone taking that sort of thing seriously. In the 18th century Ahmad al-Damanhuri, a rector of al-Azhar Seminary in Cairo, the foremost center of Sunni learning, wrote an essay in which he was frank that the caliphate ended in 1258, that the Mamluk ‘shadow caliphate’ hadn’t amounted to much, and that the Ottomans were kings, not caliphs. The Sunni caliphate had lapsed. He said, however, that some of the Ottomans were better and more just rulers, as secular monarchs, than some of the caliphs had been. I know of no reason to think that al-Damanhuri’s views weren’t the prevailing ones on the eve of Middle Eastern modernity. {Ahmad al-Damanhuri, al-Naf` al-ghazir fi salah al-Sultan wa al-wazir, Egyptian National Library, Taymur Ijtima`, MS 34, p. 10).
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Ottoman Sultan Abdulhamid II (1876-1909) was concerned about European encroachment on Ottoman and Muslim lands (white Christians conquered Muslim-ruled states of India beginning 1757, Muslim Central Asia through the 19th Century and Algeria in 1830). The Iranian diplomat Mirza Malkum Khan cabled the shah back in Tehran in 1880 that Abdulhamid had decided to declare himself a caliph so as to turn the tables and claim authority in places like British India, where 1/4 of the population was Muslim. Although the idea that the Ottoman sultan was a caliph gained some purchase in British India, I don’t think it was widely accepted. British interviews with Egyptians after they conquered that country in 1882 suggested that Egyptians didn’t see Abdulhamid as a caliph.
Abdulhamid, despite saying he was a caliph, was overthrown by a democratic revolution in 1908-1909, which instituted a constitution and a parliament and tried to reduce the sultan-caliph to a figurehead. In early 1913, Young Turk military officers, however, made a coup and sent parliament home. They unwisely took the Ottoman Empire into WW I in alliance with Austria and Germany. Mehmed V, the new sultan-caliph (now relatively powerless) used his bully pulpit to declare jihad or holy war on France, Britain and Russia. The Ottomans were nevertheless defeated (and Indian Muslim troops helped in the defeating). After the war, the British and the French divided up the Ottoman provinces among themselves. Nationalist, secular general Mustafa Kemal refused to see Anatolia or Asia Minor, the heartland of Turkish speakers, divvied up, and launched a war to stop it. He won. The Turkish state came into being. Its parliament declared itself a republic in 1923. In 1924 it abolished the caliphate.
The end of the caliphate did not matter to most Muslims. You don’t need a caliph to pray five times a day or fast Ramadan. In Egypt, Ali Abd al-Raziq, a court judge, argued in modernist fashion that no caliph is necessary. Some Egyptian clerics were uncomfortable with the idea, but they lost the argument. There was some jockeying to resurrect the caliphate in the mid-1920s, and the Egyptian king, Fuad I, threw his crown in the ring. But the fact is that none of the newly forming nation-states wanted a transnational authority like that, and no consensus could be reached, and the caliphate (such as it was, since I don’t think most Muslims bought into Abdulhamid’s project) lapsed again.
Small groups of cult-like fundamentalists ever after hoped for a restored caliphate, but it isn’t something on the minds of 99% of the world’s 1.5 billion Muslims. Sunni Islam has come sociologically to resemble Protestant Christianity, lacking a formal center and largely organized on the basis of the nation-state. Thus each Muslim-majority country has a mufti, who is the highest legal authority, giving rulings on practice for the state. Ask the muftis, who have real authority backed by Muslim states, what they think of the serial murderer, al-Baghdadi.
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I remember in 2004 Usama Bin Laden issued a speech in which he complained about the calamities rained down on the Muslim world by the European Christians ‘for the past 80 years.’ He was referring to the abolition of the caliphate by Ataturk in 1924. His theory was that without a caliph Muslims were easily divided and ruled by the great powers. The flaw in that theory is that the Ottomans claimed to be caliphs toward the end of the empire but the Great Powers still divided and ruled them. It is hard to argue with military power, and fancy religious titles won’t win such power struggles. Even the original Abbasid caliphate was ended by pagan Mongol steppe warriors who had lacquered, reticulated short bows that they could fire from horseback and which could penetrate armor. (Mongols had very sophisticated fletchers).
In fact, making grandiose claims on authority was common among Muslim leaders resisting the European colonial powers Often their followers thought that such leaders had the power to deflect European bullets and cannonballs. The popular Muslim notion of a Mahdi or rightly-guided figure who will be sent by god at the last days (sometimes, it is thought, at the same time Christ returns) was invoked for anti-colonial purposes on several occasions. A Mahdi or messiah rose up against the French in Egypt in 1799. The French killed him. Another Mahdi arose in the Sudan in the 1880s. The British killed him and then went on to rule the Sudan until 1956. Muqtada al-Sadr in Iraq created the Mahdi Army, intended as a force to support the Mahdi, who he thought was about to appear, and which took on the US and British militaries in 2004; it lost on the battlefield.
And, of course, Mulla Omar Uruzgani of Afghanistan was proclaimed “caliph” by the Taliban and al-Qaeda. Hopefully he and al-Baghdadi will end up in the same jail cell so they can drive each other crazy claiming to be the real caliph. In fact, virtually no one in the Muslim world thinks Mulla Omar is a caliph.
The Egyptian Muslim Brotherhood developed the institution of the Supreme Guide, which under President Muhammad Morsi in 2012-2013 developed theocratic aspirations. The Supreme Guide, Muhammad Badie, proved conspiratorial and controlling, and Morsi proved compliant. The vast majority of Egyptians were annoyed by this grandiosity, and they overthrew the Muslim Brotherhood government. Badie is in danger of being executed. I think that the Egyptian elite has gone too far in persecuting Muslim Brothers and branding them terrorists, mind you, and the death sentence on Badie is a human rights violation. But I’m just pointing out that calling yourself Supreme Guide and getting the loyalty of a sectarian group is no guarantee of worldly success. And the Brotherhood is way more important the the ‘Islamic State.’
This Baghdadi ‘caliphate’ thing is doomed, as well.
You want to see the future of Islam, look at the al-Nahda or Renaissance Party in Tunisia, which just successfully completed a term in office in coalition with a secular human rights-oriented party and a socialist party.
Lengthy... bottom line: Islam is evolving.
DeleteSo I've heard, but backwards or forwards.
DeleteIf you got your head out of your ass, Draft Dodger Bob, you could tell which way you were gong.
DeleteBottom line: It's just as boring, and incoherent as any other religious bullshit.
DeleteBurning bushes, magic bulls, and fat men with protective cobras, it's all the same. Horrific idiocy.
If you got your head out of your ass, Draft Dodger Bob, you could tell which way you were going.
DeleteBreaking !!!!
ReplyDeleteBob Beckel is on Outnumbered.
There he is, in all his liberal glory, blabbing on and on, surrounded by four lovely young female things, great gut hanging out, suspenders stretching, survivor of alcoholism.....
When I see Bob thus:
I THINK OF RUFUS IN HEAVEN
;)
Oh, and here with all that talk about his gut, I thought you were fantasizing about getting Bob Beckel on your barbeque grill.
DeleteInform the idiot Idahoan that Rufus got his fair share of pussy, here on this earth,
Deleteand, never once, had to pretend that she was a daughter, sister, or niece, in order to do it.
Hey, Draft Dodger Bob!
DeleteRufus gets his fair share of pussy, right here on this earth,
Not once did he have to pretend that she was a daughter, sister, or niece, in order to do it
Uh, Jack, uh, . . . . . . an important word, there, was . . . . . "got." :)
DeleteBut, thanks for the help. :) :)
That's the telephone game, for ya.
DeleteOperation Rolling Thunder
ReplyDelete44 months - Between March 1965 and November 1968
More tonnage used than in WWII Pacific Theater - 864,000
US aircraft losses:
506 U.S. Air Force
397 Navy
19 Marine Corps
(Tet Offensive began on 30 Jan 1968)
AnonymousMon Jun 30, 01:21:00 PM EDT
DeleteAccording to the Israel Defense Forces (IDF) ...
More than 100 tons of explosives were dropped in the first 9 hours of 'Operation Cast Lead'.
And?
Jack HawkinsMon Jun 30, 01:09:00 PM EDT
ReplyDeleteHey, Draft Dodger Bob!
Rufus gets his fair share of pussy, right here on this earth,
Not once did he have to pretend that she was a daughter, sister, or niece, in order to do it
And you know this how?
he said so.
DeleteAnd, Rufus would Never lie about the important stuff. :) :) :)
DeleteThe point being, I always figured, "I'll take care of the pussy here above ground, and let the worms take over below ground."
DeleteRufus IIMon Jun 30, 01:37:00 PM EDT
DeleteThe point being, I always figured, "I'll take care of the pussy here above ground, and let the worms take over below ground."
Can't you be a little more poetic? That is ugly!
I've never been much of a poet.
DeleteHey Rat,
ReplyDeleteWhile you were serving down in Central America, what was your unit?
Right...Take your time and do some searching.
DeleteIhttp://borderwar-2014.blogspot.com/2014/01/the-back-story.html
DeleteGo read the story, it's been there since 18JAN14
The fellow you call 'Rat' he was there, too.
http://borderwar-2014.blogspot.com/2014/01/the-back-story.html
DeleteThat l at the beginning of the address could throw allen off.
I just want the name of your unit. In Viet Nam, mine was Alpha Co, 1/9. See, it's easy.
DeleteViet Nam?
DeleteSilly boy, you asked about Central America.
If you want to know about Viet Nam, ask someone who claimed to have gone.
If you want to know about the "Rat", you'll have to read the story.
DeleteEven easier, for me.
Juan Cole wrote:
ReplyDelete“The vast majority of Egyptians were annoyed by this grandiosity, and they overthrew the Muslim Brotherhood government.”
There is no way Juan Cole could possibly know what the “vast majority” felt.
The Egyptian Army used unrest, possibly of its own making, as pretext for overthrowing the government. A look at posts from the time of Hosni’s troubles will show that a military coup (or non-coup to the SoS) was my predicted outcome. The Egyptian Army was/is the only functioning institution in the country. Without it, Egypt would be a harsher shade of bedlam.
Was that way when they deposed Mubarak.
DeleteThey went through the entire theater of Kabuki on the way to getting Sisi elected President.
...read...
DeleteWe must apologize to the Bar for the uncouth and continuing misbehavior of our 2nd cousin Pesky.
ReplyDeleteYou have to read him, if you must, as long as Deuce continues to allow his bullshit we have to LIVE with the Professional AssHole, which is way way beyond vexing.
Pasky
Posky
Pisky
Pusky
Bodies of Israeli kidnapped teens found, government confirms
ReplyDeleteWas that way when they did other false flags.
Those Israeli pretend that crimes occur.
The country of Israel has rejected the God of Abraham, has embraced prostitution and promotes homosexual activities.
But the idea that the US government is subsidizing the marketing of the Israeli sex trade, AC/DC. ... Wow, my Baptist friends don't know that, they would be shocked to discover that Israel has rejected the Book of Leviticus.
The so called deaths of the 3 Israeli? If they were killed, there is no proof that Israel did not kill them.
And they had no right to be living on the Palestinian's lands.
The Mossad killed them
Delete
DeleteIt WAS a false flag operation.
Hamas would have wanted to trade them, that is their MO.
Once again the level of anti-Semitic hatred, expressed on this blog set new records.
ReplyDelete3 teenagers, kidnapped and executed, one American, 2 Israelis.
Sick.
But it is a teaching lesson. All JEWS should be armed.
The American was an Arab, too?
DeleteI know all Semitic Israeli are Jewish Arabs, didn't know that the American was a Jewish Arab, as well.
Thanks for the up date.
As always you are a shining example of the exact opposite of good in the world.
DeleteThere are European Jews and there are Arab Jews. The Semitic Jews are Arab Jews.
DeleteWords have meaning, get back to class.
Jack you never cease to amaze us with how ignorant you are. But thanks again for lowering the bar.
DeleteIt's a wonder you can even type….
Rufus'll cross his eyes and curl his toes over this piece of power porn:
ReplyDeletehttp://www.cleanposts.com/images/a/a5/Solar.jpg
Teresita, your "clickables" aren't clicking through. I think you're trying to put them up like you would on wordpress.
DeleteIsraelis - they damned their country for moneyMon Jun 30, 02:03:00 PM EDT
ReplyDeleteThe so called deaths of the 3 Israeli? If they were killed, there is no proof that Israel did not kill them.
...or Martians...
Exactly correct, no proof at all that it was Hamas, Mossad or Martians.
DeleteMore likely to have been Mossad than Martians or Hamas, though.
The "so-called" deaths...straight from allen's mouth to your ears, gents.
ReplyDeleteFingers to eyes, more appropriately.
DeleteThis is why we question your gender. As no real woman could be as cold hearted and hateful as you.
DeleteNo one but allen questioned the death of the teens.
DeleteYou questioned the kidnapping and you questioned the deaths.
DeleteYou said it was a false flag and that the mossad killed them.
You are one sick, sick, demented anti-semite and you are the reason I carry....
More than 100 tons of explosives were dropped in the first 9 hours of 'Operation Cast Lead'.
ReplyDeleteAnd the whole 2006 fiasco in Lebanon was Operation Lost Cred
http://www.jpost.com/Defense/Netanyahu-hints-at-further-Gaza-action-Either-Hamas-reins-in-rocket-fire-or-we-will-361018
ReplyDeleteNetanyahu hints at further Gaza action: Either Hamas reins in rocket fire or we will
Mr. Netanyahu, with all due respect, shut the fuck up!
Bibi can't do diddly, His Minister Lieberman already threatened to send the IDF into Gaza.
DeleteBut the US will not resupply the ammunition stocks, so ...
Israel can't do diddly.
But pass gas ...
DeleteWhich is all the fat man is doing.
Which is why the amount of explosives the IDF used in 'Cast Lead' is pertinent to the thread.
DeleteMuch more so than "Rolling Thunder" in Vietnam.
allen, caught behind the learning curve, again.
DeleteHe never has been able to anticipate, and so falls into the traps.
Pedal faster, allen, pump those legs!
Jack HawkinsMon Jun 30, 03:02:00 PM EDT
DeleteBibi can't do diddly, His Minister Lieberman already threatened to send the IDF into Gaza.
But the US will not resupply the ammunition stocks, so ...
Israel can't do diddly.
When Israel does do anything you bitch like a stuck pig....
Just wait, I am sure you will be plenty pissed off real soon...
In Viet Nam, mine was Alpha Co, 1/9
ReplyDeleteTell us which of these operations you fought in, and what they were like. Try not to pick the ones with blue links on Wikipedia that already have write-ups you can copy and paste.
Blastout I August 65
Golden Fleece Sep–Oct 65
County Fair Sep–Dec 65
Rice Straw Oct–Nov 65
Independence February 1966
Ky Lam Campaign May 1966
Liberty July 1966
Macon Jul–Oct 1966
Deckhouse V January 1967
Prairie II Feb–Mar 1967
Chinook II Feb–Apr 1967
Operation Beacon Hill Mar–Apr 1967
Operation Prairie III Mar–Apr 1967
Operation Prairie IV Apr–May 1967
Operation Cimarron Jun–Jul 1967
Buffalo July 1967
Fremont Jul–Oct 1967 (became Neosha)
Operation Kentucky November 1967–Feb 1969
Neosho November 1967–January 1968
Scotland November 1967–March 1968
Checkers December 1967–January 1968
Ballistic Armor January 1968
Dai Do April–May 1968
Kentucky Apr–Jun 1968
Lancaster July 1968
Scotland II Apr–Sep 1968
sdale Aug–Sep 1968
Pegasus/LamSon 207 April 1968 26 Mar
July Action July 1968
Utah Mesa June-Jul
Cameron Falls JunAug 1969
Direct Combat Support 19–21 May 1971
Heroic Action 11 May 1972
Song Thanh 5-72 13 May 1972
Song Thanh 6-72 24 May 1972
ReadyOp 27-June 1972
LamSon 72(I) 29 June 1972
LamSon 72 (II) 11 July 1972
Frequent Wind 20–30 April 1975
Ask him what the unofficial, in-country conversion rate was between MPC and the U.S. Dollar. That'll keep him busy for awhile (but, he'll never find it.) :)
DeleteHe won't care.
DeleteBlastout I August 65
DeleteGolden Fleece Sep–Oct 65
County Fair Sep–Dec 65
Rice Straw Oct–Nov 65
Independence February 1966
Ky Lam Campaign May 1966
Liberty July 1966
Macon Jul–Oct 1966
Deckhouse V January 1967
Prairie II Feb–Mar 1967
Chinook II Feb–Apr 1967
Operation Beacon Hill Mar–Apr 1967
Operation Prairie III Mar–Apr 1967
Operation Prairie IV Apr–May 1967
Operation Cimarron Jun–Jul 1967
Buffalo July 1967
Fremont Jul–Oct 1967 (became Neosha)
Operation Kentucky November 1967–Feb 1969
Neosho November 1967–January 1968
Scotland November 1967–March 1968
Checkers December 1967–January 1968
Ballistic Armor January 1968
Dai Do April–May 1968
Kentucky Apr–Jun 1968
Lancaster July 1968
Scotland II Apr–Sep 1968
sdale Aug–Sep 1968
Pegasus/LamSon 207 April 1968 26 Mar
July Action July 1968
Utah Mesa June-Jul
Cameron Falls JunAug 1969
Direct Combat Support 19–21 May 1971
Heroic Action 11 May 1972
Song Thanh 5-72 13 May 1972
Song Thanh 6-72 24 May 1972
ReadyOp 27-June 1972
LamSon 72(I) 29 June 1972
LamSon 72 (II) 11 July 1972
Frequent Wind 20–30 April 1975
...nope...still waiting for rat...
Teresita, your "clickables" aren't clicking through. I think you're trying to put them up like you would on wordpress.
ReplyDeleteThat clickable is a link to my own page, I've never heard a report of trouble before. Even Bob goes there.
Re: "so called"
ReplyDeleteYou can't fix stupid.
That should be in bold, allen.
DeleteHTML for dummies, you used to know it, what happened?
Israel Pays Students For Pro-Israeli Social Media Propaganda
DeleteSeems they have a limited number of sign-ons that can be used.
Some students know HTML, others do not.
This is why we question your gender. As no real woman could be as cold hearted and hateful as you.
ReplyDeleteSince I will never accept a date with you, Porky, you can question my gender to your heart's content. That question and five dollars will get you a cafe Americano at Starbucks.
Don't flatter yourself, there has never been any offer in any way, shape or form.
DeleteI was referring to your lack of compassion, your soullessness and your apparent lack of feminine grace.
Allen:
ReplyDeleteRe: "so called"
You can't fix stupid.
Exactly. Which is why I'm not surprised you said it.
A new low has been reached here today for sure, by rat and his hating friends.
ReplyDeleteDraft Dodger Bob, you just don't comprehend the reality of the situation.
DeleteThere is no rat.
Only in the forest of your mind, does the rat reside.
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DeleteThe Prophet tells us "There is no rat but rat".
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Deleteallen found himself a Prophet!
DeleteHallelujah!
Here's why I don't think the economy will be able to "get out of its own way" (in spite of improving statistics.)
ReplyDeleteEIA World Crude + Condensate Data
World C + C Supplies are expanding at only 0.16% (125,000 bpd) Year on Year. This is compared to approx. 8 times that rate (1 Million bpd) up to 2005, and about twice that rate (270,000 bpd) from 2005 to 2012. - Can you say, "reaching the top of the curve?"
It's hard to see Global Growth at much more than 1% with these numbers, and with most of that going to China, and some of the Oil Exporters.
I was referring to your lack of compassion, your soullessness and your apparent lack of feminine grace.
ReplyDeleteThis blog weeds that shit out.
You never had any to start.
Delete...no souls, my friend...Like that mouse, they prove it possible to have a brain but lack a mind.
ReplyDeleteWiO,
ReplyDeleteToday was VA payday...sweet... I earned mine...sweeter...Knowing that the cons here did not...sweetest...
Rat is a figment of your imaginationMon Jun 30, 04:43:00 PM EDT
ReplyDeleteallen found himself a Prophet!
Hallelujah!
...yes, Moses...And? ... What was your unit, again?
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DeleteJack HawkinsMon Jun 30, 06:09:00 PM EDT
DeleteThis comment has been removed by the author.
"Silence is golden". :-)
Actually it's not golden, it's Bretton Wood.
DeleteAnd do you two bozos find Jenny to be Miss Congeniality, or do women have to be Zionists to be feminine?
ReplyDeleteTeresita RedingerMon Jun 30, 05:54:00 PM EDT
DeleteAnd do you two bozos find Jenny to be Miss Congeniality, or do women have to be Zionists to be feminine?
I thought Rufus and the airborne stranger were your friends.
Jenny is a sock-puppet.
BobMon Jun 30, 03:07:00 PM EDT
ReplyDeleteA new low has been reached here today for sure, by rat and his hating friends.
Bob,
They will sink lower; I'll make sure of it.
http://www.truthrevolt.org/israel-revolt/arabs-throw-stones-ambulance-carrying-bodies-murdered-boys
DeleteArabs Throw Stones at Ambulance Carrying Bodies of Murdered Boys
So that's where Mossad dumped the bodies?
DeleteWould it not been grand if those throwing rocks had been shot?
DeleteI know I am looking forward to the day when a vehicle that comes under attack can shoot the attackers...
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ReplyDeleteTeresita RedingerMon Jun 30, 11:13:00 AM EDT
Gaius Obamus Golfus gets curbstomped by SCOTUS over Hobby Lobby
Things have not been going well in Court lately for the Big O. He has had a long losing streak.
Rufus IIMon Jun 30, 11:14:00 AM EDT
Along with 100 Million American women.
Nonsense. This doesn't deny anyone the right to contraception.
The ACA merely said the insurances policies needed to provide preventive services. Overreach on the part of the Obama administration 'interpreted' that to evidently mean that pregnancy was a disease and that all 20 types of approved birth control had to be included in the policies. Hobby Lobby was already covering 16 of the 20 but objected to the other 4 on religious grounds.
But for those who are dismayed by Obama's recent rebuff's hang in there. He has already vowed to continue with his unilateral decision making.
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You and your pedophile priests can blow me, motherfucker. I'm not in the mood for your religious bullshit, today.
DeleteThey banned the morning after pill, and the IUD. Maybe, there's a Catholic asshole, out there, somewhere, that doesn't know that the IUD is the only form of birth control some women can use.
I've got news for you, Quirk, there's no goddamned way in hell that you're going to convince me that YOU should be the arbiter of the forms of birth control available (or, even that you have any business thinking about it) to My family.
then open up your wallet and pay for the legal cheap assessable forms of birth control that is in our nation.
DeleteHoly Moley, WiO gets one right.
DeleteRufus IIMon Jun 30, 07:32:00 PM EDT
ReplyDeleteYou and your pedophile priests can blow me, motherfucker.
After going out and looking at the crops all afternoon, do you know how stupid you sound?
Why don't you get up, go to the door, and go out and TAKE A WALK?
You can blow me, too, asshole.
DeleteListening to a computer guy on Fox.
ReplyDeleteLois Lerner's email are indeed recoverable.
With cooperation it would weeks.
Without cooperation, some months maybe.
What a CRIMINAL ORGANIZATION the Obama Administration truly has turned out to be !!
They are recoverable in two or three different ways.
DeleteNot that I understood much of the fancy talk.
He was talking also about how CRIMINAL this truly is under, I think it was, the Government Records Act, or some such.
Well Draft Dodger Bob, if you do not understand how it can be done, you should not tell people it can be.
DeleteYou are talking up your ass, again.
Pull your out of your butt, and gain some understanding of what you ar writing about.
Delete“If you don't have time to read, you don't have the time (or the tools) to write. Simple as that.”
Pull your head out of your butt, and gain some understanding of what you are writing about.
DeleteHe heard it on the Wahhabi News Network; it has to be right.
Deletefucking morons
Re: "Simple as that."
DeleteThis is grammatically incorrect, since Retro-Ranger has decided to lecture on writing expertise. Try finding a quote that makes your point.
allen, when you have sold half as many books as Stephen King, we will take your opinion into account.
DeleteUntil then your opinion is decimated. Simple as that.
Lois Lerner took the 5th, repeatedly. She is guilty as sin. When she finally goes to court, her attorneys will plea bargain.
ReplyDeleteShe won't go to court, Obumbler will blanket pardon the whole shooting match.
DeleteQ: "Things have not been going well in Court lately for the Big O. He has had a long losing streak."
ReplyDeleteThat means we have a republic after all, not an Empire.
AnonymousMon Jun 30, 06:43:00 PM EDT
ReplyDeleteSo that's where Mossad dumped the bodies?
Yea, that's what Lester wanted.
Who is Lester, but a molester?
DeleteTo sign the online petition to impeach Obama, go to Impeach Him Now.
ReplyDeleteKnowing full well he probably wouldn't be convicted - unless more comes out - still it is time to impeach Obama. This CRIMINAL farce has gone on long enough. And the proposal should be debated in the House.
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President jokes that WH pastry chef laces pies with crack cocaine..............drudge
I think it was WiO who was wondering out loud if he was using again. He may very well be.
What kind of idiot American President would be 'cracking' such undignified and disgusting jokes?
H.L. Mencken said the American People will one day get what they have deeply wanted.........a total moron in the White House.
That day has arrived.
Mencken was a prophet.
Try these -
DeleteImpeach Obama Campaign — To Save America
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Have your lap dog, Labrador, talk to Boner about it.
DeleteI thought Rufus and the airborne stranger were your friends.
ReplyDeleteI don't have friends here, only students and enemies. My favorite pupil is Doug. I don't like it when my pupil Bob calls me a cunt, I make him sit in a corner.
You pupil has surpassed his teacher, and now he teaches teach.
DeleteI called Hillary a smelly cunt, not you.
What the hell has the nation come to, when we call it a victory that the court rolled back a federal requirement to force one family to pay for another family's contraception on religious freedom grounds? What happened to just freedom grounds?
ReplyDeleteExcellent point, my young student.
DeleteAnd, ask yourself this:
DeleteWhy have I been paying Higher Taxes, all these years, just so you could have your health insurance paid for with Before Tax Dollars?
Health Insurance that ended up saving your stinking, greedy life.
You two greedy assholes have sucked at the federal teat your entire fucking lives, and now you're ecstatic that some poor little gal, working for minimum wage at Hobby Lobby will no longer be able to get the birth control that she needs.
DeleteKiss my fucking rusty red ass, the both of you greedy bitches.
And, now would be a damned fine time for you to get your feelings hurt, and blow out the door, Teresita. I'll be happy to take the credit.
DeleteLet's see, I'm losing count.
ReplyDeleteQuirk has been instructed to 'blow' Rufus.
As have I.
That's two.
Miss T counts as three.
I am not sure I quite understand this reference though -
"Kiss my fucking rusty red ass, the both of you greedy bitches."
There must be another "greedy bitch" around somewhere that I have missed.
Anyway, that makes four.
I believe, but am not certain, that up there somewhere Allen was also similarly instructed. (It may have been on some other day)
Anyway, that would five.
WOW
Caliban has a sexual appetite that won't quit.
""Kiss my fucking rusty red ass, the both of you greedy bitches."
DeleteAn alternative explanation might be that Rufus is seeing double again.
It is, after all, nearly 10pm there, and he may have started early today.