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Tuesday, June 24, 2014

USS Liberty Survivor Ernest Gallo on the perfidious State of Israel

GETTING AWAY WITH MURDER




COURAGE AND BETRAYAL



Leaving the USS Liberty Crew Behind
by Ray McGovern, June 09, 2014

On June 8, 1967, Israeli leaders learned they could deliberately attack a U.S. Navy ship and try to send it, together with its entire crew, to the bottom of the Mediterranean – with impunity. Israeli aircraft and torpedo boats attacked the USS Liberty, a state-of-the-art intelligence collection platform sailing in international waters off the Sinai, killing 34 of the 294 crew members and wounding more than 170.
On the 47th anniversary of that unprovoked attack let’s be clear about what happened: Israeli messages intercepted on June 8, 1967, leave no doubt that sinking the USS Liberty was the mission assigned to the attacking Israeli warplanes and torpedo boats as the Six-Day War raged in the Middle East. Let me repeat: there is no doubt – none – that the mission of the Israeli Defense Forces (IDF) was to destroy the USS Liberty and kill its entire crew.
Referring last week to the controversy of the swap of five Taliban prisoners for Sgt. Bode Bergdahl, President Barack Obama claimed, “The U.S. has always had a pretty sacred rule: We don’t leave our men or women in uniform behind.” The only exception, he might have added, is when Israeli forces shoot them up; then mum’s the word.
Mr. President, try explaining that “pretty sacred rule” to the USS Liberty survivors. I know them well enough to sense the hollow echo that Obama’s claim will leave in their ears – and in the ears of the families of those who did not survive.
The crew of the USS Liberty has been “left behind,” in a figurative as well as a physical sense. There is no way to retrieve the bodies of those washed out to sea through the large hole made by the Israeli torpedo that hit the Liberty amidships, killing 26 of the crew.
There is a way, however, to stop throwing salt in the survivors’ wounds, as every U.S. president since Lyndon Johnson has done in acquiescing to the false narrative that it was all a terrible case of mistaken identity and confusion by Israeli command and control. That salt burns – especially on anniversaries of the tragedy, raising troubling questions about the power of the Israel Lobby and the Israeli government over U.S. politicians.
In apparent fear of the Israel Lobby and not wanting to offend the Israeli government, U.S. officials including the Navy have refused to come clean on what happened 47 years ago. The mainstream U.S. media has been a willing partner in this failure to face the facts and demand accountability.
No Accident
Here, for example, is the text of an intercepted Israeli conversation, just one of many pieces of hard, unambiguous evidence that the Israeli attack was not a mistake:
Israeli pilot to ground control: “This is an American ship. Do you still want us to attack?”
Ground control: “Yes, follow orders.” …
Israeli pilot: “But, sir, it’s an American ship – I can see the flag!”
Ground control: “Never mind; hit it!”
The Israelis would have been able to glory in reporting “mission accomplished, ship sunk, all crew killed” save for the bravery and surefootedness of then-23-year-old Navy seaman Terry Halbardier, whose actions spelled the difference between the murder of 34 of the crew and the intended massacre of all 294.
Halbardier skated across the Liberty’s slippery deck while it was being strafed in order to connect a communications cable and enable the Liberty to send out an SOS. The Israelis intercepted that message and, out of fear of how the U.S. Sixth Fleet would respond, immediately broke off the attack, returned to their bases, and sent an “oops” message to Washington confessing to their unfortunate “mistake.”
As things turned out, the Israelis didn’t need to be so concerned. When President Johnson learned that the USS America and USS Saratoga had launched warplanes to do battle with the forces attacking the Liberty, he told Defense Secretary Robert McNamara to call Sixth Fleet commander Rear Admiral Lawrence Geiss and tell him to order the warplanes to return immediately to their carriers.
According to J.Q. “Tony” Hart, a chief petty officer who monitored these conversations from a U.S. Navy communications relay station in Morocco, Geiss shot back that one of his ships was under attack. Tellingly, McNamara responded: “President Johnson is not going to go to war or embarrass an American ally over a few sailors.”
Getting Away With Murder
For the Israelis, the tight U-turn by the U.S. warplanes over the Mediterranean was proof positive that the Israeli government can literally get away with murder, including killing U.S. servicemen, and that Official Washington and its servile media could be counted upon to cover up the deliberate nature of the attack.
John Crewdson, a Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist for the Chicago Tribune, asked McNamara about this many years later. McNamara’s answer is worth reading carefully; he said he had “absolutely no recollection of what I did that day,” except that “I have a memory that I didn’t know at the time what was going on.”
Crewsdon has written the most detailed and accurate account of the Israeli attack on the Liberty; it appeared in the Chicago Tribune, and also in the Baltimore Sun, on Oct. 2, 2007. Read it and you’ll understand why Crewdson got no Pulitzer for his investigative reporting on the Liberty. Instead, the Tribune laid him off in November 2008 after 24 years.
Several of the Liberty survivors have become friends of mine. I have listened to their stories, as Crewdson did. When June 8 comes around each year I remember them. And on special occasions, as when Terry Halbardier was finally awarded the Silver Star for his bravery, I write about them.
The mainstream U.S. media has avoided the USS Liberty case like the plague. I just checked the Washington Post and – surprise, surprise – it has missed the opportunity for the 46th consecutive year, to mention the Liberty anniversary.
On the few occasions when the mainstream U.S. media outlets are forced to address what happened, they blithely ignore the incredibly rich array of hard evidence and still put out the false narrative of the “mistaken” Israeli attack on the Liberty.
And they attempt to conflate fact with speculation, asking why Israel would deliberately attack a ship of the U.S. Navy. Why Tel Aviv wanted the Liberty and its entire crew on the bottom of the Mediterranean remains a matter of speculation, but there are plausible theories including Israel’s determination to keep the details of its war plans secret from everyone, including the U.S. government.
But there is no doubt that destroying the Liberty and its crew was the mission assigned to Israel’s warplanes and torpedo boats. One Navy Admiral with a conscience, former Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff (and before that Chief of Naval Operations) Thomas Moorer, has “broken ranks,” so to speak. Moorer helped lead an independent, blue-ribbon commission to investigate what happened to the Liberty.
The following are among the commission’s findings made public in October 2003:
-That the attack, by a U.S. ally, was a “deliberate attempt to destroy an American ship and kill its entire crew”
-That the attack included the machine-gunning of stretcher-bearers and life rafts
-That “the White House deliberately prevented the U.S. Navy from coming to the defense of the [ship] … never before in naval history has a rescue mission been cancelled when an American ship was under attack”
-That surviving crew members were later threatened with “court-martial, imprisonment, or worse” if they talked to anyone about what had happened to them; and were “abandoned by their own government.”
Doing Justice
Will the USS Liberty survivors ever enjoy the opportunity to know and to tell the real story with all its evil cruelties? Or will silence continue to reign? In a different context, Russian dissident author Alexandr Solzhenitzyn wrote this warning about what silence about evil does to the foundations of justice:
“In keeping silent about evil, in burying it so deep within us that no sign of it appears on the surface, we are implanting it, and it will rise up a thousand fold in the future. When we neither punish nor reproach evildoers, we are not simply protecting their trivial old age, we are thereby ripping the foundations of justice from beneath new generations.” Aleksandr I. Solzhenitsyn, The Gulag Archipelago
President Obama, the crew of the USS Liberty has been “left behind” for way too many years. Do the right thing by them. Face down those who warn that you cannot risk Israel’s displeasure. And add more substance to your rhetoric about our “pretty sacred rule” that we do not leave anybody wearing the American uniform behind.
Ray McGovern works with Tell the Word, a publishing arm of the ecumenical Church of the Saviour in inner-city Washington. He came to Washington over 50 years ago and worked as a CIA analyst under seven Presidents, one less than Gates. Ray now serves on the Steering Group of Veteran Intelligence Professionals for Sanity (VIPS).

Reprinted with permission from Consortium News.

196 comments:

  1. If Israel wished to KILL the entire crew and sink the boat?

    they would have.


    The Liberty? Was several HUNDRED miles outside the area that they were allowed to be in as per orders of the NAVY. It's a spy ship, spying on the war. violating public orders and being in a war zone.

    9 miles off the coast of Gaza, so close the sailors could hear bombs exploding on the land.

    Israel attacked a spy ship.

    Could have been Russian? Egyptian? British? French?

    I guess America never shot down or sunk anything it didn't want to.

    But IF it was intentional, they Israel COULD have sunk it. After all it DIDNT.

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    1. BTW, why was an American spy ship, 6000 miles away from sovereign American waters?

      What business did it have inside an active war zone not of American making?

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    2. Maybe the true criminal action should be directed at the NSA who hijacked the ship and put it in harms way in the 1st place?

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    3. But we all know the NSA NEVER breaks any laws...

      and America NEVER supports enemies of our Allies..

      LOL

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    4. The Palestinians (Fatah) murdered (under Arafat) American diplomats, on purpose (we had recording of arafat ordering the murders) and yet, Deuce had never shown outrage about that...

      Americans are attacked and murdered across the globe by Islamic nations which who we provide massive aid and turn a blind eye, as do you deuce, why one standard for Israel?

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    5. ...all spoken like a first-class Israeli Firster

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    6. thanks for not answering the question.

      spoken like an anti-semite.

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  2. On June 8, 1967, Israeli leaders learned they could deliberately attack a U.S. Navy ship and try to send it, together with its entire crew, to the bottom of the Mediterranean – with impunity. Israeli aircraft and torpedo boats attacked the USS Liberty, a state-of-the-art intelligence collection platform sailing in international waters off the Sinai, killing 34 of the 294 crew members and wounding more than 170.


    wow Israel sucks.... killing only 34?

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  3. . Let me repeat: there is no doubt – none – that the mission of the Israeli Defense Forces (IDF) was to destroy the USS Liberty and kill its entire crew.

    and they failed....

    miserably.....

    hmm... if the IDF wanted to sink a ship with no real defenses it could Right?

    something smells...

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  4. There is a way, however, to stop throwing salt in the survivors’ wounds, as every U.S. president since Lyndon Johnson has done in acquiescing to the false narrative that it was all a terrible case of mistaken identity and confusion by Israeli command and control. That salt burns – especially on anniversaries of the tragedy, raising troubling questions about the power of the Israel Lobby and the Israeli government over U.S. politicians.


    And what if America was actively spying on an ally during a war and providing that intel to our ally's enemies?

    What would America do?

    Oh yeah, bomb the Chinese Consulate. That's what...

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  5. Israeli pilot to ground control: “This is an American ship. Do you still want us to attack?”
    Ground control: “Yes, follow orders.” …
    Israeli pilot: “But, sir, it’s an American ship – I can see the flag!”
    Ground control: “Never mind; hit it!”


    Assume for a moment this verbiage is correct.
    In time of active war. Since when does a FLAG mean shit?

    Has any ship every flown another nation's flag during a war?

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  6. Ernie Gallo: The U.S.S Liberty: what really happened? What did not?

    Presentation at the National Summit to Reassess the U.S.-Israel "Special Relationship" on March 7, 2014 at the National Press Club.

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  7. whose actions spelled the difference between the murder of 34 of the crew and the intended massacre of all 294.
    Halbardier skated across the Liberty’s slippery deck while it was being strafed in order to connect a communications cable and enable the Liberty to send out an SOS. The Israelis intercepted that message and, out of fear of how the U.S. Sixth Fleet would respond, immediately broke off the attack, returned to their bases, and sent an “oops” message to Washington confessing to their unfortunate “mistake.”



    Sorry the "fleet" were hundreds of miles away where ALL American naval vessels had been order to be...

    the USS Liberty was not supposed to be 9 miles off the coast of gaza

    why was the liberty on an illegal spy mission? is that why the president upon learning of it's attack left it out there as he knew his hand in the cookie jar had been exposed?

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  8. let's take deuce's ridiculous theory and accept it.

    then the question must be asked...

    What the heck was the liberty doing to warrant Israel to WANT to sink it?

    there is negligence on America's side of the equation since you HAVE to ask what was the motivation for Israel to sink an American ship.

    Blood lust and hatred?

    Has Israel attacked and murdered American ever in any other instance?

    What was Israel MOTIVE?

    Any decent criminal prosecutor would talk about MOTIVE.

    Was there an American CRIME being perpetrated? You can site "international waters" all you want, but being 9 miles off the coast of an active war zone is just plain ridiculous.

    Put the shoe on the other foot, if during active military actions a ship or plane flew that close what would America do? Let's ask the flight crew and passengers of the Iran Air Flight 655 what they think?

    Oh yeah they are all dead....

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  9. This is one of the reasons why I've always thought Johnson was in on the Kennedy assassination; anyone who would do this would do anything.

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  10. The Israeli and his draft dodging butt buddy are in full flower this morning.

    Frantic, they are.

    It is interesting, I was watching a video y another 'Jewish' fellow, Norman Finkelstein, and he was saying that US Jewry's support for Israel was bound to the idea that Israel was seen as being 'part' of the United States. How as the truth came out, about apartheid, about the myth of "Purity of Arms' and I would add the USS Liberty, US Jewry's support for Israel was crumbling.

    Good thing that. It is enlightening to see that most Jews in the United States do not want to be Israeli Do not want to be connected with the ideas propagated by Israel and deny that Israel represents Judaism. That do not not wish to be hyphenated Americans.
    Good on them.

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    1. A comment on one of Mr Finkelstein's videos Norman Finkelstein (2014) "Old Wine, Broken Bottle" [FULL]

      I have just found Mr Finkelstein. I think he is a courageous man. I was always Pro Israel until I began to realise the reality of what ws going on in Palestinian territory and the relentless march of the settlements. Suddenly all the protests by Palestinian leaders that Israel did not want peace and were merely stalling looked very different. A map comparing settlements in 1995 and 2015 is stark and depressing. However I would never say that for fear of being anti semite or labelled pro terrorism.

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    2. Another comment ...


      Finklestein pairs morality with intellect and fact, taking no prisoners along the way.
      What he has sacrificed in the cause of justice is incredible. It really is incredible.

      Just watch American Radical and read an article by Chomsky on him. He needs to keep writing.
      He has single-handedly stood up to the Jewish-Zionist-intellectual community, has honored the memory of his parents and stands against any and all injustices. Just imagine how one man a couple decades or so ago looked at a textbook as an undergraduate student... researched it and then thought.."wait a second".... and never looked back.

      Another thing is... when you listen to the arguments in his interviews from the opposing side... you can figure out yourself who is lying and who isn't.
      I hope and pray he keeps at it.

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  11. the USS Liberty was not supposed to be 9 miles off the coast of gaza

    The Army of the Potomac wasn't supposed to be in Maryland when Lee went into Pennsylvania either. Tough titties. Besides, can't do SIGINT from the rear, except analysis.

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      This is more of WiO's alternative history.

      The Liberty was at least 12 miles off the coast and in international waters.

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    2. 12 miles?

      The last time this was discussed the sailors testified that they were 9 miles off the coast and could here the explosion from the battles on land.

      Fine I give you 12 miles.

      They were still 400 miles away from their order position with the fleet.

      they were still in an active war zone.

      btw an airplane flying over a ship has how many seconds to recon it? And how high do they fly?

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  12. Assume for a moment this verbiage is correct.
    In time of active war. Since when does a FLAG mean shit?


    That's when you reach for Jane's Fighting Ships.

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    1. So you are saying that no nation in the time of active battle flies another nation's colors...

      You are one dumb person.

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  13. The Liberty? Was several HUNDRED miles outside the area that they were allowed to be in as per orders of the NAVY.

    And Boomers don't go where they are ordered to go either, jackwagon, the idea is to hide. You really don't know how the military works. At least you don't pretend to be a Marine, I'll give you that. You just pretend to be a Jew.

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    1. Teresita RedingerTue Jun 24, 09:19:00 AM EDT
      The Liberty? Was several HUNDRED miles outside the area that they were allowed to be in as per orders of the NAVY.

      And Boomers don't go where they are ordered to go either, jackwagon, the idea is to hide. You really don't know how the military works.



      So to understand your point, "Boomers don't go where they are ordered to go either, jackwagon, the idea is to hide."

      So sitting of the israeli/gaza coast, 9 miles away is hiding??????

      are you on crack?

      If they are hiding do they ever do things to disguise their ID? DO other nation's boomers fly other nation's colors?

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    2. Teresita Redinger : You just pretend to be a Jew.


      And you pretend to be a woman....

      and a lesbian...

      and a lapsed catholic

      then to have cancer

      then to not be a lesbian

      then to be a lesbian...

      Go fuck yourself liar.

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  14. I have a friend that was busy "walking out of" the Sinai when all this went down. It wasn't the Israelis he was spying on when he got cut off.

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    1. The fact is, we wanted (had) our own people on the ground, gathering intelligence, and reporting it back.

      Neither side liked that, of course.

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    2. I do not doubt that we do spy on everyone and everything we can.

      changes nothing.

      Why was the liberty 400 miles off course? why was it spying on Israel (or egypt)? in an active war zone.

      Did the USA send a notice of intention to the Israeli's telling them we have a ship in the area?

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    Once again, WiO offers us alternative history from the big book of "Israel and the Other Guys".

    NSA pirates. Oh my.

    A spy ship doing spying. Oh my.

    Israel riddled the Liberty with shells, strafed life boats, and torpedoed a 39 foot hole in the hull leaving the ship dead in the water with 34 dead and 174 wounded, but those were just warning shots.

    In WiO world, it all makes sense.

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    Not in international waters. It sounds like WiO has been reading his Jay Cristol again. It must be pretty dog-eared by now.

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      Whoops.

      Forgot to mention the napalm.

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    2. I never heard of Jay Cristol, but I'll google it.

      Oh MY...

      I guess an american spy ship called the liberty wasn't spying it was just sitting 9 miles off the coast of gaza to listen to the fireworks and get tans...

      Oh my.

      In my world? Quirk you are losing it....

      If Israel wanted to sink it you are saying it failed?

      Wow... Oh my!

      I am taking the point of view that deuce is correct, that it was an intentional attack.

      so in taking that point of view, using napalm is not a normal munition to sink a ship.

      But you know that..

      You are the quirk.

      But WHY was the liberty 400 miles from where it was supposed to be?

      Yep the NSA exists, in fact Lt Gen Carter is quoted in this very thread admitting that the fleet was 400 miles away and that the liberty was a spy ship...

      Oh my!

      there is plenty of blame on the liberty situation to apportion a large percentage to the NSA.

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    Jay Cristol put out a book whitewashing the U.S.S. Liberty affair and called it an accident and while doing so shifted the blame to the U.S. Much of what he has been debunked such as the '13 investigations have found Israel innocent in the attack'.

    An article put out by the Chicago Tribune after Cristol's book came out pretty debunks the rest (h/t to Allen for putting me on to this article during one of our many arguments about Liberty) as well as quoting numerous witnesses who talking of missing tapes, transcripts, and testimony that was left out of the official inquiry.

    New revelations in attack on American spy ship

    The article is pretty long, nine pages, but given what we know about LBJ and McNamara now makes the following section kinda believable.

    Nor, the survivors said, did they understand why the American 6th Fleet, which included the aircraft carriers America and Saratoga, patrolling 400 miles west of the Liberty, launched and then recalled at least two squadrons of Navy fighter-bombers that might have arrived in time to prevent the torpedo attack -- and save 26 American lives.

    J.Q. "Tony" Hart, then a chief petty officer assigned to a U.S. Navy relay station in Morocco that handled communications between Washington and the 6th Fleet, remembered listening as Defense Secretary Robert McNamara, in Washington, ordered Rear Adm. Lawrence Geis, commander of the America's carrier battle group, to bring the jets home.

    When Geis protested that the Liberty was under attack and needed help, Hart said, McNamara retorted that "President [Lyndon] Johnson is not going to go to war or embarrass an American ally over a few sailors."

    McNamara, who is now 91, told the Tribune he has "absolutely no recollection of what I did that day," except that "I have a memory that I didn't know at the time what was going on."

    The Johnson administration did not publicly dispute Israel's claim that the attack had been nothing more than a disastrous mistake. But internal White House documents obtained from the Lyndon B. Johnson Presidential Library show that the Israelis' explanation of how the mistake had occurred was not believed.

    Except for McNamara, most senior administration officials from Secretary of State Dean Rusk on down privately agreed with Johnson's intelligence adviser, Clark Clifford, who was quoted in minutes of a National Security Council staff meeting as saying it was "inconceivable" that the attack had been a case of mistaken identity.

    The attack "couldn't be anything else but deliberate," the NSA's director, Lt. Gen. Marshall Carter, later told Congress.

    "I don't think you'll find many people at NSA who believe it was accidental," Benson Buffham, a former deputy NSA director, said in an interview.

    "I just always assumed that the Israeli pilots knew what they were doing," said Harold Saunders, then a member of the National Security Council staff and later assistant secretary of state for Near Eastern and South Asian affairs.

    "So for me, the question really is who issued the order to do that and why? That's the really interesting thing."


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    1. The attack "couldn't be anything else but deliberate," the NSA's director, Lt. Gen. Marshall Carter, later told Congress.
      "I don't think you'll find many people at NSA who believe it was accidental," Benson Buffham, a former deputy NSA director, said in an interview.
      "I just always assumed that the Israeli pilots knew what they were doing," said Harold Saunders, then a member of the National Security Council staff and later assistant secretary of state for Near Eastern and South Asian affairs.
      "So for me, the question really is who issued the order to do that and why? That's the really interesting thing."



      So let's recap, the USS Liberty, sailing 400 MILES off course, disobeying a direct order to be with the fleet, was sailing within 9 miles of the coast of Gaza/Israel spying on Israel. The NSA which had hijacked the Liberty by ORDERS from Lt Gen Marshall Carter then states the attack was deliberate.

      Hmm... connect the dots...

      Illegal spy mission by the NSA... Providing intel to our ally's enemies.

      America got caught doing something really really stupid.

      (just like Snowden told us)

      So when you are caught shift the blame...

      the NSA is guilty of treason.

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  17. You understand the Israeli-firster mentality by re-reading Allen’s Jewish view on how they really feel about Christians. My real contempt is for the so-called American politicians and who havn’t the patriotism or the balls to stand up for American servicemen and right the wrongs done to these men by our ridiculous affiliation with the rogue state.

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      Ditto.

      Israel may have done what they thought necessary in a war environment. The bullshit and the lies are annoying and attacking and killing allies is unforgivable; but my real contempt also is for the dicks in D.C. who would sacrifice the lives of American servicemen on the altar of realpolitik.

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    2. Several posts ago you showed what America was capable of when it came to the murder of millions of American Indians.

      And yet, you call Israel a "rogue" nation.

      Do you also call every other nation on the planet a "rogue" nation, or just israel?

      Do you call Sudan? China, Syria, England Russia and France all "rogue" nations?

      To what standard does israel get judged that you do not judge others? that is anti-semitism.

      One standard of judgement for Israel and no standards for anyone else.

      If you called out Iran, Syria, Turkey all all of the other nations of the world for similar acts? then you;d be fair.

      But you don't.

      You have a hard on for Israel.

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    3. Deuce ☂Tue Jun 24, 10:09:00 AM EDT
      You understand the Israeli-firster mentality by re-reading Allen’s Jewish view on how they really feel about Christians.

      Interesting mix of words again. Why is it "israeli-firster" to embrace, as a Jew, that christian theology is crap.

      Deuce you yourself have bashed it, told us of your disgust of the abrahamic faiths, what does that make you?

      One standards for the israeli firsters (jews) and no standards for anyone else.

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    4. My real contempt is for the so-called American politicians and who havn’t the patriotism or the balls to stand up for American servicemen

      Are you standing up for our servicemen who are getting maimed in afghanistan due to the ROE changes? Of just about the Liberty? Are you furious with the NSA for putting the Liberty in harms way?

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    5. Deuce: my real contempt also is for the dicks in D.C. who would sacrifice the lives of American servicemen on the altar of realpolitik.


      Does that include Vietnam? Do you include all the wasting of American GI's for worthless military conflicts or Just the USS Liberty?

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      That wasn't Deuce that wrote that. It was me.

      Vietnam is another crime based on lies and committed by the same pricks.

      Look up the Gulf of Tonkin.

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      Interesting mix of words again. Why is it "israeli-firster" to embrace, as a Jew, that christian theology is crap.

      Deuce you yourself have bashed it, told us of your disgust of the abrahamic faiths, what does that make you?

      One standards for the israeli firsters (jews) and no standards for anyone else.



      It wasn't the contempt for Christian belief Allen was called out for. It was his contempt for Christians.

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    8. Yes, and in Viet Nam we had South Koreans and Australians who fought with us. All of us were misled by the same US crew in Washington that covered up the Israeli attack on a US warship.

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    9. I have contempt for Christian theology on a religious basis. Mine does not have a racial aspect. I am an equal opportunity serial offender.

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      Are you standing up for our servicemen who are getting maimed in afghanistan due to the ROE changes? Of just about the Liberty? Are you furious with the NSA for putting the Liberty in harms way?

      You seem to lack the ability to walk and chew gum at the same time, WiO. Everyone here has complained about the ROE in Afghanistan.

      As for the Liberty, stop reading fairy tales put out to sell books. The Liberty was a $40 million NSA spy ship. The NSA told the captain where to take it. However, it was the Joint Chief of Staff that told the NSA where to take. The NSA does what they are told just like the Air Force does what it is told when they are ordered to send an RC-135 into an area of conflict.

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    11. quirk: The Liberty was a $40 million NSA spy ship. The NSA told the captain where to take it. However, it was the Joint Chief of Staff that told the NSA where to take. The NSA does what they are told just like the Air Force does what it is told when they are ordered to send an RC-135 into an area of conflict.

      I will take your points on face value.

      Doesn't change the fact the the USS Liberty was in a war zone, spying on an ally. All that is changed it that you suggest the USS Liberty was acting on orders from the Joint Chiefs.

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      I've said from the beginning that if the Israeli's thought it was in their national interest to attack the ship of an ally, that is a political decision and they would have to live with it.

      However, they didn't man up and live with it. They lied about it and where backed up in that lie by LBJ, first by not responding to the attack by force and then by having a phony hearing on the incident. That too was a political decision in addition to being a mendacious cover-up.

      My contempt for the Israel for the attack is small potatoes when compared to my contempt for LBJ for not sending in the jets to take out all Israeli planes and boats in the vicinity of the Liberty.

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    13. Funny my contempt for blk is not living up to treaties with Israel in the straits of rite on the CAUSED the 1967 war in the 1st place

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    14. Auto correct. Not blk. Lbj

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    15. Duece,

      You understand the Israeli-firster mentality by re-reading Allen’s Jewish view on how they really feel about Christians.

      Das Allen wrote about what orhtodox Christians believe and how they have raped, pillaged, and murdered Jews. You should not be surprised. Within the lifetime of a person, Christians were murdering Jews by the millions. Your solution? Oh, yes, "Don't Worry Be Happy." Are you that dense?

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  18. Deuce is a prick for bringing it up again and Quirk is a turd of misunderstanding.

    Israel is the one and only decent country in the entire middle east.

    You don't know what discrimination is unless you have lived in an Arab country as a woman, or in India.

    I am only learning.

    Fuck off Deuce, Quirk, rat, Dufus, Miss T..........

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      Bob, you dumb asshole.

      You sounded drunk yesterday so I pulled my comment on the last stream in which I called you a dumb asshole.

      Deuce didn't bring this subject up. You new best bud, Allen, brought it up as a diversionary tactic after he had his ass handed to him on his 'new master race' theme.

      You are losing it. Maybe you should head back to the casino.

      .

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    2. They already have, Bob. Time will tell. No matter how they try, the American public supports Israel. That hurts these pagans more than you could ever imagine. I love it! :-)

      Delete
  19. It strikes me that, as soon as you start to identify yourself as a member of a group of "superior" people, you're fixin' to fuck up.

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    1. You immune from that disease, Cherokee.

      Although you did yourself, your slaver ancestor did that.

      What you are is half white, half red, 100% Beam.

      You are are idiot.

      Delete

    2. The noble Cherokee were slavers back in the day.

      Delete
    3. Since that was outlawed most of them have gone to drinking whiskey, and blogging.

      Delete
    4. .

      It is ironic that a Jew would be expounding on the innate superiority of one people over another.

      The Nazis had an entire section that did nothing but rewrite history books to conform with their idea of the Germans being part of a superior race.

      The Jews have Allen.

      .

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    5. The Jews study harder, that is all.

      I admire their scholarship.

      Delete
    6. .

      Bob, you dumb shit, you just don't get it.

      Allen wasn't talking Jewish mothers pushing their kids to succeed and them doing it, i.e. nurture. He was saying they, by virtue of being Jewish, have an innate superiority over other peoples, i.e. nature.

      Your thinking is so muddled I have no doubt you would be embarrassed for yourself had you that capability.

      .

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  20. You have no idea what the fuck happened Quirk so shut the fuck up.

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    1. Or get counseled by a racist, sexually disturbed draft dodger.

      Delete
    2. Fuck you redskin.

      I did not dodge the draft.

      I stood for it and was not called.

      It is true, if you are a typical example of the Cherokee, I am beginning to think ill of your tribe.

      You are an drunken asshole.

      Delete
    3. You stated the other day that you attended WU, partly to avoid the draft. Look it up.

      Meanwhile, it's passing strange that "I'm the drunkard," but you're the one that's constantly drinking and blogging.

      Delete
    4. That would be U of W.

      Yes, I took the student deferments, then I stood for the draft,

      I studied English Literature and got a degree in English Literature.

      I did not avoid the draft.

      I stood for the draft/

      Delete
    5. I was studying while you rolled off the bar stool into the Marine Recruiting Station.

      That is one of the many differences between us.

      Delete
    6. You had to have had straight 'A's to get into U of W from out of state when I applied for admission.

      It is a high class school.

      I was accepted.

      Delete
    7. God doesn't exist.

      Rufus.

      Indeed.

      We do, he she doesn't.

      He she is.

      Rufus is a stupid drunken Cherokee.

      Delete
  21. ...Q, on the way back from the john, do me a favor and check in the little office and see if we still have the straight jacket next to the old first aid kit.

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    1. .

      I assume the guy is just drunk.

      He continues to write streams of bullshit and never goes back to see if anyone has responded to him.

      He just keeps moving along leaving piles of bullshit in his wake.

      .

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    2. And you were the turd that left me in phone box in Vegas.....

      Asshole.

      All this bringing up of the Liberty incident again just shows what Deuce really is....a lapser and a turd.

      Delete
    3. Bob continues to dissemble, spread bullshitTue Jun 24, 11:32:00 AM EDT

      Along with being a draft dodger, a coward, and a liar, he fails to admit that allen brought up the subject of the USS Liberty.

      Delete
  22. ... actually, just grab a roll of duct tape.

    ReplyDelete
  23. Deuce served, and with honor, he is an idiot none the less.

    ReplyDelete
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    1. Who would no know honor if it bit him on the dick

      Delete
  24. Bob continues to dissemble and lieTue Jun 24, 11:01:00 AM EDT

    while disparaging everyone he writes about, but he has no where else to go.

    Everyone else in his life has left him, closed the door on him, left him out in the cold.

    Even the cat quit pissing on his slippers.

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  25. Heh, that ain't bad, killer.

    ReplyDelete
  26. Just got an e-mail from my Niece.

    Whoa - she is doing great !

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  27. .

    I think the phrase is 'drunk as a skunk'.



    Otherwise...

    .

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  28. The Lord of all the WorldsTue Jun 24, 11:53:00 AM EDT

    The Lord hath set a Great Gulf between Bob and the Drunken Cherokee.

    Set Forever.

    And Ever.

    ReplyDelete
  29. WiO: then to not be a lesbian

    then to be a lesbian...

    Go fuck yourself liar.


    My gender, sexual orientation, religion, marital status, parental status, and everything else you can think of aren't topics for this blog. I got my own blog for that. But I'm pretty sure you are a white supremacist from Hayden Lake, Idaho who wants to make Jews look bad by being a dick online.

    ReplyDelete
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    1. You made it a topic hundreds of times.

      no matter you are still a fraud.

      Btw - Gay cacum often yam.

      Delete
    2. And "O" is still an Israeli "Butt Boy", promoting the "Gay Tours" of Israeli Army bases ....
      Touting Tel Aviv as one of the world's top gay tourist destinations.

      http://cnsnews.com/news/article/tel-aviv-emerges-top-gay-tourist-destination

      Delete

    3. Promoting the "Jewishness" of servicing the homosexual tourists in Israel.

      Delete
    4. It is an example of hypocrisy that "O" derides others for their sexual orientation, while the State of Israel is promoting that very behavior. Advrtising for the homosexual Jews of the World to vacation in Israel.

      Encouraging them to move to Israel, accepting "Gay Marriage" as part of the package ... the state recognizes same-sex couples who marry abroad.

      Delete
  30. Bobby P: Just got an e-mail from my Niece.

    Did it come with a .jpg attachment with her in lingerie?

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  31. Bob,

    You do provide some entertainment some days!

    With respect to your niece and the irony of your pride in being given veto power over her marriage partner choice:

    It is ironic because you regularly evoke the 'do it for the women' rationale when urging the US military to control Muslim countries.

    Much of our concern for the women in some Muslim countries is centered around the fact that they are treated as chattel in their patriarchal society. The father of the family assumes the right to determine what happens to the daughter, how they dress, WHOM THEY MARRY.

    Now we have you, who is all in favor of the death and destruction wrought in, say, Afghanistan, and you cry "think of the women" and then, regularly prattle on how great your niece is and how proud you are to have VETO OVER WHO SHE MARRIES.

    Sad, but true.

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  32. I was extremely surprised to find myself burdened with this unexpected burden, Ash.

    It is not, to say the least, a part of my culture.

    But I have accepted the task, and will do my best.

    He best not have any dirt under his toenails, I will tell you that !!!!!!!!!!

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    1. Bob needs to expand his information sourcesTue Jun 24, 02:25:00 PM EDT

      Bob accepts his role as a man who subjugates of women, rather than educating his "Niece" to the ways of the West.
      It illustrates his willingness to maintain the patriarchal culture of subjugating women, and exemplifies the hypocrisy of his life.

      Delete
    2. Bob needs to expand his information sourcesTue Jun 24, 02:27:00 PM EDT

      Bob accepts his role as a man who subjugates women ... deleted "of"

      Delete
  33. After Bob called me a C word this morning just like WiO and Allen, I wrote him off as just another Torah worshiper. To Sheol with them.

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    1. This comment has been removed by the author.

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    2. His hypocrisy knows no bounds.
      He endorses the patriarchal culture of subjugating women, with his choices of story telling.

      Instead of educating the women of the "Third World" to the ways of "Western Culture" and encouraging their self emancipation, he supports them in maintaining their subjugation to a patriarch.

      Delete
    3. Teresita RedingerTue Jun 24, 02:29:00 PM EDT
      After Bob called me a C word this morning just like WiO and Allen, I wrote him off as just another Torah worshiper. To Sheol with them.


      Well I hope your worship of Christ is true and valid, and you lying skanky ass rots in hell for all eternity.

      Delete
    4. You have not filed your DNA report with Deuce, until you do, you are considered a pretender.

      That's the allen Standard.

      No prior claims are considered authentic, everyone starts at zero.
      If you wish to make a biographical claim, be prepared to submit authentication to the Standards Panel.

      If you claim to be Jewish, or a Veteran and do not supply authentication, the claim can be denied.

      Delete
  34. Hackingbear writes: Burdened with Alabama's highest unemployment rate, long abandoned by textile mills and furniture plants, Wilcox County, Alabama, desperately needs jobs. And the jobs are coming from China. Henan's Golden Dragon Precise Copper Tube Group opened a plant here last month, employing 300 locals. Chinese companies invested a record $14 billion in the United States last year, according to the Rhodium Group research firm. Collectively, they employ more than 70,000 Americans, up from virtually none a decade ago. Powerful forces — narrowing wage gaps (Chinese wages have been doubling every few years), tumbling U.S. energy prices, the rising Yuan — up 30% over the decade — are pulling Chinese companies across the Pacific. Perhaps very soon, Chinese workers will start protesting their jobs being outsourced to the cheap labor in the U.S."

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  35. Let your mind be as a cloud,
    Let your stillness be as a woody glen.
    And sit up straight,
    You'll never meet the Buddha with posture like that.

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  36. WiO: What business did it have inside an active war zone not of American making?

    In 1963 the Americans sent Hawk missiles to Israel and recommitted to Israel’s security. We were there monitoring as part of that committment when the IDF napalmed the SIGINT boat.

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    1. Ask my Army Ranger, buddy, who was sitting in a hole in the ground in the Sinai, smack-dab in the middle of the entire Egyptian Tank Corps.

      We were all over (and, under) that war.

      Delete
    2. Teresita RedingerTue Jun 24, 02:48:00 PM EDT
      WiO: What business did it have inside an active war zone not of American making?

      In 1963 the Americans sent Hawk missiles to Israel and recommitted to Israel’s security. We were there monitoring as part of that committment when the IDF napalmed the SIGINT boat.

      And in 1967 LBJ threw Israel under the bus and refused to honor said commitments

      Giving weapons doesn't mean being able to be where you are not invited

      Delete
    3. I personally was on the flight line at RAF Bentwaters in Suffolk England at that time in 1967 and watched brand new F-4 Phantoms having the stars and stripes painted over and then we sent them to the little shitty country and in a few weeks, our brothers in arms were being mudered by the scabs that we sent them to.

      Delete
    4. We should have cut the bastards off then and never turned back.

      Delete
    5. Thanks for your love, care and support or lack there of.

      I am sure your hatred of all things Jewish and Israel is your prime motivator in life and your honesty is appreciated.

      It took you long enough to come out of the closet.

      Shitty little county, conga line, scabs, Perfidious State of Israel (deliberately faithless; treacherous; deceitful)

      Your terms of admiration for the Jewish people have basically called us blood sucking leeches, parasites, unloyal Americans, 5th columnists.

      You have blamed Jews and Israel for almost every major problem in the USA and world.

      But now your at least honest.

      Your father would be proud?

      I think not...

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    6. The victims were and are the crew of the USS Liberty. The victimizers were the Israelis.

      Delete
  37. Dubai's stock market has been taking a beating for weeks, and news of firings at Arabtec, the UAE's largest-listed builder, caused a new round of panic yesterday. Canary in a coal mine. Same thing happened in 2008 right before the fit hit the shan.

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    1. Absolutely, Correct!!

      I was thinking the exact, same thing this morning.

      Delete
    2. Really?
      That is not the kind of new I was hoping for.

      Delete
    3. In fairness, I'm aware of the Saudi Stock Market tanking (demand for oil fell off the face of the earth when our gasoline was headed up to $4.11 / gallon.)

      I, personally, am not sure what the Dubai Market was doing, or if this case is completely symmetrical.

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    4. Yesterday at the open, I took an options position with the Sept 15 and Sept 19 VIX.

      Delete
  38. To any that are interested in this kind of stuff ...

    That "Old School" crooner, Jimmie Buffett has launched www.margaritaville.tv where he has some of his concert video and MTV attempts on-line. Which in and of itself would not be worth mentioning ...

    But he is live streaming some of his Summer Concerts, one of which is tonight, from Ohio.
    I have watched the last two that he has streamed on-line - and they were quite entertaining if you like his brand of Caribe & Country influenced Rock & Roll.

    I think the show launches at 20:00 EDT, but that could be wrong.
    Check it out, if you're a mind.

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  39. .

    CNN had a new VA whistle blower on today, a scheduling analyst from Pheonix, who reports that within the last few weeks, long after the original story broke, files are still being changes. She indicated that names she input into the system as deceased are being put back into the system as alive.

    The major investigation going on right now has to do with deaths as a result of delays in treatment. If individuals are said to be alive, the investigators don't bother checking their cases.

    It takes a bit of chutzpah to continue trying to cover up when so many eyes are on what is going on.

    .

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    1. Makes one wonder at what level of management that decision to alter those case files is being made, if it really is being done.

      Delete
    2. .

      The whistle blower indicated it was being done at a level higher than her but thisa is the first full day of the story.

      .

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  40. .

    Would the Mafia put a hit on the Il Papa?

    Pope Francis has declared a sort of holy war on the Mafia. And it's not unreasonable to believe that the Mafia may fight back.

    On Saturday, the pope traveled to Calabria, the heartland of one of Italy's biggest organized crime enterprises, the 'Ndrangheta, and, in front of a crowd of more than 100,000, blasted the 'Ndrangheta as example of "the adoration of evil and contempt of the common good." Then he dropped the hammer:

    "Those who in their lives follow this path of evil, as mafiosi do, are not in communion with God. They are excommunicated." [Pope Francis]


    This is a big deal. Southern Italy's mobsters are a pietistic bunch — an overwhelming majority are active Catholics, and religious celebration is an important part of their public image and local legitimacy.

    http://theweek.com/article/index/263596/would-the-mafia-ever-order-a-hit-on-pope-francis

    .

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    1. Pope Francis certainly would not be the first Pope to be assassinated, if it came to that.

      Delete
  41. .

    How many times have we heard every slime bag that is being grilled say 'I don't remember'.

    IRS Commissioner Koskinen: "I Do Not Remember" How I Was Told About Lerner's Lost Emails

    Every swinging dick who says it either has early onset Alzheimer's or they are lying through their teeth.

    .

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    1. You are confusing Alzheimer's with "Convenient Memory", the former an affliction of increasing incapacitation while the latter is an appreciation of increased compensation.

      Delete
  42. Something unprecedented may be unfolding in Florida's individual health-insurance market: None of the nine companies that have filed their 2015 rate requests so far wants an increase.

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. In fact, two of the companies -- Molina Healthcare of Florida and Sunshine Health -- actually requested a price cut.

      None of the companies will talk about their filings until they are approved; and a spoiler could still pop up in the four days that remain before the deadline for plans to compete in the 2015 enrollment.

      But consumer advocates are cautiously optimistic that this is evidence that the Affordable Care Act is restraining prices for individuals who don't get coverage through a group.

      "The fact is, an overall pattern of insurers not seeking rate increases -- and even seeking rate decreases -- is unheard of," said Greg Mellowe, policy director for the consumer advocacy group Florida CHAIN.

      Unprecedented

      Delete
    2. Those Republicans designed a pretty good Healthcare Plan.

      Delete
  43. Hmmmmmm the VA killed more Servicemen than Israel did times 50…

    Where is the outrage?

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    1. Wrong again, Butt Boy, the VA did not kill them, they died.
      Perhaps the treatment offered was less than optimum, but that's a different story than murder.

      That you do not understand the difference is indicative of a lack of cognizant ability, misplaced morality or pure paganism.

      Delete
    2. Dear Jack, we all know that you, a self confessed murderer of civilians in Central America SHOULD know the difference between murder and killed….

      The VA killed them. AND the servicemen died. When you sighted in a 8 year old kid and then pulled the trigger? Blowing off the top of his skull? That was murder. How do you sleep being the child murdering guy that you are?

      Delete
    3. Butt Boy, you do not know what you are speaking of.

      Please forward that confession to the FBI.

      Delete
    4. Our Israeli Butt Boy not only makes money with his as, he talks out of it, too.

      Please, forward all authenticating documents to the FBI.
      For any crimes that have been confessed to.
      Any crimes that you suspect have occurred.
      Get on it, Israeli Butt Boy, then rotate, you may earn a tip.

      Delete
    5. I am sure your name and crimes are know to the Human Rights Council.

      The FBi? they know you too, you admitted that you saw the report on you by name...

      Mr Criminal you are...

      Delete

    6. Give 'em a call Israeli Butt Boy!

      Better yet, just walk down to Ha-Karuzuim Library Garden next time you are in Tel Aviv, say this ...

      Greedy little people in a sea of distress
      Keep your more to receive your less
      Unimpressed by material excess
      Love is free love me say hell yes
      Give it away give it away give it away give it away now


      Maybe you'll get lucky, or a least a discount.

      Delete
    7. thanks Jack!

      your comments prove my point... again..

      LOL

      You are one sick fella.

      LOL

      and you droppings are part of the blog forever...

      LOL

      Delete
    8. Let's talk Israel, it's LEGAL SEX TRADE.

      Let's not call other contributors name, like cunts.

      We'll keep it on countries, countries that promote the Gay Sex Trade.
      Country's like Israel
      Countries that are DAMNED!

      hat tip: allen

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  44. Israel, the Holy Land of Jewish Prostitutes.

    It's LEGAL in Tel Aviv, yu can buy men or women on the street, and it's kosher meat!

    Bring your Same Sex Partner, the marriage certificate will be recognized in Jewish State of Israel, because homosexuality is Kosher!

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  45. On the topic of having a veto over my Niece's choice of mates:

    I am not certain if she is serious about that.

    She did not ask me if she could date this Hindu guy that works in Poland, for instance. :)

    I am the least of her Uncles, not being biologically related. She has several others. :)

    But when I think of it, what is wrong with a tradition like this anyhow ?

    Our divorce rate here in USA is about 50%, and in the 'black community' there is never a father around any more at all.

    Perhaps the old ways, honed through the centuries, have something to recommend ?

    After all, rat shitter's first attempt at a relationship ended with the very young girl 'dropping the kid' and fleeing.

    And my NIece's first relationship did not end well. It ended in the hospital and the police station.

    Maybe a little adult supervision might be well advised.

    EH?

    What say you, rat shitter.?

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  46. If there had been a thoughtful Uncle involved in the affair of Romeo and Juliet, we might have had a comedy, not a tragedy.

    EH?

    ratshitter?

    Tell us what is so great about 'the American way' on these matters, shitter/

    You are the expert, your relationships having not worked out.

    EH? shitter?

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  47. After her experience, perhaps she wants an outside opinion, before she dives in that deep water.

    EH? Shitter?

    What say you, shitter, you are a man of failed relationships.

    What say you, O shitter?

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  48. Take back calling me peckerwood, Miss T, or I will never ever ever never speak to you again.

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  49. I am awaiting your reply, rat shitter.

    If Maria were to have had an uncle, perhaps you would not have knocked up Maria in the first place.

    I would certainly have warned her away from you, doing my traditional duty as Uncle.

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  50. I would have said:

    Maria, that guy is piece of shit.

    Stay away from him.

    Your Uncle

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  51. Things would have gone better for it, no?

    What says you, rat shitter?

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  52. rat shitter can't think.

    He is, after all, just a rat shitter.

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  53. rat shitter will go through many thousands of incarnations to work his karma off

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  55. I hate rat. He left me knocked up, and without any money.

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  56. I agree with that.

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  57. rat shitter's "American Way" is knocking up Maria and paying no child support.

    ReplyDelete
  58. Really, it should be a crime.

    For heaven's sakes.

    What a shitter.

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  59. I've never heard of such a disgusting thing.

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  60. He is not fit for polite society.

    ReplyDelete
  61. No-fly list violates constitutional rights, judge rules, just in time for the next undetectable explosives technology to come out of Syria.

    ReplyDelete
  62. Margaret Sanger called blacks "human weeds that need eliminating"

    Hillary Clinton calls Sanger a "hero"

    ReplyDelete
  63. A member of President Obama's Homeland Security Advisory Council known for controversial Twitter posts that seem to support the Muslim Brotherhood wrote Friday that it is “inevitable that 'Caliphate' returns.”

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  64. Our country is really fucked up.

    Thankfully, in India, they elected a decent man.

    How are you, Miss T?

    What do you thing about Uncles?

    In your culture?

    Just askin'.

    ReplyDelete
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    1. Fuck you Bob and the horse you rode in on. You can't call me the same things the fake Jew and fake Marine do and get away with it.

      Delete
    2. I knew you would talk with me again !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      Delete
    3. So the Fake Lesbian speaks... again...

      i guess you can't shut them up...

      Maybe she will threaten to leave for the 34th time...

      Delete
    4. Israel's Butt Boy wants to keep talking about sex.
      That is because he lives in a nation of the damned

      Spengler's Universal Law #9:
      A country isn't beaten until it sells its women, but it's damned when its women sell themselves.


      We all know that Israel is the Sex Trade capital of the world.
      They advertise the fact world wide!

      Delete
    5. Thanks Jack, for showing the world your level of class and what you bring to the blog.

      You are all the advertising the blog needs.

      LOL

      Delete
    6. You betcha Israeli Butt Boy.

      You want to talk about contributors to the blog.
      I talk about Countries that are Damned.

      allen provided us the expert on the damnation of countries, a man he obviously respects.
      Spengler, he has lots of Laws that pertain to cultures that are mired in moral muck.

      Spengler's Universal Law #9:
      A country isn't beaten until it sells its women, but it's damned when its women sell themselves.

      That would be Israel ...
      Hat Tip: allen.

      Delete
    7. Start with your own backyard.

      http://www.city-data.com/so/Arizona.html

      Registered sex offenders in Arizona

      Which city did you register in?

      Delete
  65. O come on, you will talk with me again, and the condo is always open to you, you lovely nitwit.

    ReplyDelete
  66. You Biblical student of the last order.

    :)

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  67. IRS agrees to $50,000 settlement in leaking of conservative group's donor records

    (expect audits to go up 5% this year to make up the shortfall)

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  68. You divine nitwit.

    I love you so.

    You are one out of the millions !!!!

    ReplyDelete
  69. The Obama Administration is a criminal enterprise.

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  70. Some 60 cases of genital mutilation have been discovered in Norrköping in eastern Sweden since March with all 30 girls in one school class found to have undergone the procedure.

    Ain't Islam grand?

    ReplyDelete
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    1. The Sister-Wife Narratives

      Which totally explains that whole thing with the Bible Belt.

      Delete
    2. I agree the Swedes are not the most intelligent group in the world.

      They let the muzzie in.

      I, thankfully, am watered down.

      Delete
  71. The border is getting more secure.

    Al Qaeda is on the run.

    You can keep your doctor.

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  72. When a wrong is made right, it’s not a net good, but it’s better than a sharp stick in the eye I suppose:

    Methodist Pastor, Rev. Frank Schaefer, was given his ordination credentials back today after being stripped of them 6 months ago for performing a wedding for his gay son. After serving a 30 day suspension for performing the ceremony and then refusing to denounce the practice of marrying same-sex couples he was bounced from the denomination and stripped of his ministry rights in the church. That was remedied and made right today.

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  73. This comment has been removed by the author.

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    1. Those Same Sex couples he marries, they can emigrate to Israel, their marriages will be recognized, there.

      The Jewish State of Israel supports Same Sex Marriage immigration,
      Israel promotes Same Sex Tourism, LOVES to have their people provide tourists with paid sexual services.
      Israel leads in the all nations on the Mediterranean coast in promoting the Legal Sex Trade.

      They want the Sex Trade tourists to come and hire Israeli service workers.
      It is a BIG foreign exchange and income category for Israel.

      Delete
    2. So much for the narrative from the Evangelicals that Israel is a restoration of the theocracy formerly known as Judah.

      Delete
    3. Amazing level of discussion...

      It proves my point about the blog...

      thanks.

      Delete
    4. Miss T is a nitwit, but she is my nitwit

      I LOVE her stupidity.

      She is a Flippy Christian.

      The worst kind.

      Delete
    5. Taoist philosophy, no religion. Former Catholic, 30 years Federal service, six in uniform.

      Delete
    6. You are always welcome at my condo !!!!!!!!!!!!

      Delete
  74. ratto never paid no child support and he is telling us about proper parenting.

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  75. Replies
    1. This is good, I want to see how my ASUS Chromebox handles more than 200 posts on the Elephant Bar. Windows 98 chokes.

      Delete
  76. Yes, he surely is.

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  77. No money at all,

    All I got is his squaling kid.

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  78. For shame.

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  79. Breaking: Brain eating bacteria have entered the US. The following areas ARE NOT at risk:

    DC
    NY
    CA
    IL
    ID
    Seattle city limits

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  80. We got deer ticks out this way.

    That's the worst of it.

    :)

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  81. Bob is a writer of really poor fictionWed Jun 25, 12:49:00 AM EDT

    .

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    1. very very poor reply ratto

      you should do better

      Delete
    2. Come on Quirk, the . dot gives you away.

      Delete
    3. Shut the fuck up Quirk.

      That is an order.

      Delete
  82. I'd love to live in Seattle but i got left south of Nogales by ratto.

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  83. I am happy to report that my Chromebox eats overweight EB topics for lunch.

    ReplyDelete
  84. These two guys, George and Harry, set out in a Hot Air balloon to
    cross the Atlantic Ocean. After 37 hours in the air, George says
    "Harry, we better lose some altitude so we can see where we are".
    Harry lets out some of the hot air in the balloon, and the balloon
    descends to below the cloud cover. George says, "I still can't
    tell where we are, lets ask that guy on the ground". So Harry
    yells down to the man "Hey, could you tell us where we are?". And
    the man on the ground yells back "You're in a balloon, 100 feet
    up in the air". George turns to Harry and says "That man must
    be a lawyer". And Harry says "How can you tell?". George says
    "Because the advice he gave us is 100% accurate, and totally
    useless".

    That's the end of the Joke, but for you people who are still
    worried about George and Harry: They end up in the drink,
    and make the front page of the New York Times: "Balloonists
    Soaked by Lawyer".

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