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Thursday, September 22, 2011

When will the thrashing stop?

"First with regard to Levi I think first dude up there in Alaska, Todd Palin, ought to take Levi down to the creek and hold his head underwater until the thrashing stops."
-Pat Buchanan


  1. Did he really spell creek like that?

  2. Is Levi Johnston jealous of all the attention Joe McGinniss’s book is getting? Bristol Palin’s former fiancĂ© claimed Thursday that his almost future mother-in-law, Sarah Palin, had a “cougar crush” on him.

  3. It was hard to suppress a horselaugh at the weekend's news that Ralph Nader and Cornel West are trying to organize a primary challenge against President Obama. After all, this isn't exactly a pair of mainstream Democrats.


    But George Bush in 1992 is a more complicated case. His challenger was Pat Buchanan, a television commentator who had worked for two presidents but had never run for office.


    The question for the president then will be whether he can win back the center. His best shot may be to run a viciously negative campaign against the Republican nominee.

  4. BTW, a 100 MW Farm is about 50 Turbines.

    The average 100MW wind farm in Illinois creates:

    150 temporary construction jobs

    10 permanent maintenance jobs

    Each megawatt of wind power in Illinois provides:

    $9,000 to $13,000 in annual local property tax revenue

    $3,000 to $6,000 in annual lease payments to landowners

    Estimated potential for wind in Illinois:

    10,000 megawatts

    Developers use local sources of:





    Other construction supplies

    Developers employ several local professionals, including:

    Construction Laborers

    Construction Contractors

    Electricians and Power Engineers

    Structural and Civil Engineers

    Excavators and Earthmovers

    Road Construction Contractors

    Truck Drivers

    Operations & Maintenance Staff

    Administrative Staff

  5. Watch out where those huskies go
    Don't you snort no yellow snow.

    The First Dude would need a bump, before he'd try to manhandle Levi.

    Daddy didn't step up when Levi step out on his daughter. Sure doubt he won't for his high mile wife.

    As far as their finances are concerned, the Palin's live by an old code:

    "I don't care what the newspapers say about me as long as they spell my name right."

  6. Thats how it was quoted. He did not write it. I, on the other hand, had a Dan Quayle moment.

  7. He's a dumb asshole. Got off a Gravy Train, and can't pay child support.

  8. Dear Wife, I’m writing you this letter to tell you that I’m leaving you forever. I’ve been a good man to you for 7 years & I have nothing to show for it. These last 2 weeks have been hell. ... Your boss called to tell me that you quit your job today & that was the last straw. Last week, you came home & didn’t even notice I had a new haircut, had cooked your favorite meal & even wore a brand new pair of silk boxers. You ate in 2 minutes, & went straight to sleep after watching all of your soaps. You don’t tell me you love me anymore; you don’t want sex or anything that connects us as husband & wife. Either you’re cheating on me or you don’t love me anymore; whatever the case, I’m gone. Your EX-Husband P.S. don’t try to find me. Your SISTER & I are moving away to West Virginia together! Have a great life!

  9. Dear Ex-Husband Nothing has made my day more than receiving your letter. It’s true you & I have been married for 7 years, although a good man is a far cry from what you’ve been. I watch my soaps so much because they drown out your constant whining & griping Too bad that doesn’t work. I DID notice when you got a hair cut last week, but the 1st thing that came to mind was ‘You look just like a girl!’ Since my mother raised me not to say anything if you can’t say something nice, I didn’t comment. And when you cooked my favorite meal, you must have gotten me confused with MY SISTER, because I stopped eating pork 7 years ago. About those new silk boxers: I turned away from you because the $49.99 price tag was still on them, & I prayed it was a coincidence that my sister had just borrowed $50 from me that morning. After all of this, I still loved you & felt we could work it out. So when I hit the lotto for 10 million dollars, I quit my job & bought us 2 tickets to Jamaica But when I got home you were gone.. Everything happens for a reason, I guess. I hope you have the fulfilling life you always wanted. My lawyer said that the letter you wrote ensures you won’t get a dime from me. So take care. Signed, Your Ex-Wife, Rich As Hell & Free! P.S. I don’t know if I ever told you this, but my sister Carla was born Carl. I hope that’s not a problem.

  10. I agree with Pat Buchanan
    Note to media: Eli's fifteen minutes have come and gone.

  11. Damn, Perry is getting his ears pinned back. Fine with me. Santorum is looking interesting.

  12. This idiot Levi is really in to himself. lol Hate to tell you boy but your not all that! He posed for Playgirl lol that says plenty of this cash grabbing mutt. Get on with your life butthead, Palin's don't need nor want u in theirs.

  13. I haven't watched a debate, yet.

    Has anyone brought up that over half of those "New Texas Jobs" went to Illegals?

  14. While I don't believe most of what he says, the Palins have done their fair share of trashing him. I guess he just wants to get even. I wouldn't buy his book nor a book written by a Palin.

  15. They went at him big time for providing special scholarship aid to children of illegals.

  16. Just read your two letters Mel. I think you should do a post with another set!

  17. Texas governor Rick Perry has pointed to job growth in Texas during the current economic downturn as one of his main accomplishments. But in a new report for the Center for Immigration Studies, based on data collected monthly by the Census Bureau, we found that newly arrived immigrants (legal and illegal) have been the primary beneficiaries of this growth between 2007 and 2011, not native-born workers.

    We found that of jobs created in Texas since 2007, 81 percent (225,000) were taken by newly arrived foreign workers (legal and illegal). The Census Bureau asks immigrants to say when they came to the United States, so it is easy to look at new arrivals who took jobs. Of newly arrived immigrants who took a job in Texas, the data show that 93 percent were not U.S. citizens. We estimate that about half of newly arrived immigrants who took jobs in Texas since 2007 were illegal immigrants. This means that about 40 percent of all the job growth in Texas between 2007 and 2011 went to newly arrived illegal immigrants and 40 percent went to newly arrived legal immigrants.

    What is so surprising about these numbers is that so much of the job growth in the state went to immigrants even though the native-born accounted for 69 percent of the growth in Texas’s working-age population (16 to 65). Put another way, even though natives made up most of the growth in potential workers, most of the job growth went to immigrants. As a result, the employment rate for natives — the share of working-age natives holding a job in the state — declined in a manner very similar to that seen in the rest of the country. This is an indication that the situation for native-born workers in Texas is very similar to that of the nation as a whole, despite the state’s job growth.


  18. "If asking a billionaire to pay their fair share of taxes -- to pay the same tax rate as a plumber or a teacher -- is class warfare, then you know what? I'm a warrior for the middle class," the president declared Thursday. "I'm happy to fight for the middle class.


    Speaking at his weekly press conference earlier in the day, Boehner called Obama's deficit proposals "a step backward," saying the president's jobs plan "would establish jobs by raising taxes on small businesses and their capital."

    "I know how important the Brent Spence Bridge is to our region, and I've long supported repairing the bridge and I'm pleased the president is bringing attention to this much-needed project," Boehner said of Obama's trip to the swing-state span. "But now is not the time for a president to go into campaign mode."

  19. The real thrashing is coming from China. The Chinese spent the last decade building factories and a modern infrastructure.

    We spent the last decade building credit default swaps and mortgage backed securities.

  20. Hopi Myth

    If one cannot see the resemblance in this to Hebrew wanderings, survival of remnants etc to me you are blind. I didn't see it mention a guiding cloud or light but have read that elsewhere.

    My point is there is nothing particularily special about Jewish mythology. How could there be, as mythology is much the same everywhere excepting the great divisions between hunter/gatherer and grain growing and vegetation eating. Human sacrifice was never practiced by hunter/gatherer groups anywhere.

    I have been roundly criticized at times for certain things as I should have been.

    Now I am going to criticize deuce, who is an extremely intelligent and creative man, and who, I recall once told rat basically all your stuff is rot.

    "Your neighbors killed you" in reference to the holocaust.

    This nonsense about specialness, and the criticism of it. Do not Christians feel, Catholic Christians, feel they have had a special relationship to God? I can testify old Lutherans certainly did. And the old Mormons? And on and on and on. And today's entry above.
    Elie Weisel I just read today said he thought it would be ten generations before anti-semitism returned in some form. And it is back bigtime in Europe and parts of American in 1 1/2.

    Deuce is obviously much more sophisticated than rat but I believe down deep he holds similar feelings. WiO, who has antenna for such things, immediately noticed it.

    And the keeping of WiO off the stardom list up there speaks LOUDLY.

    Why isn't he up there, he has done nothing egregious.

    Further, deuce has racist feelings of the first order. I recall Trish saying 'keep the racism down deuce'

    It is all over his outlook.

    It is in that nonsense about
    Atlas Shrugged which, I recall, Quirk said is a 'really really shitty outlook on life.'

    Quirk do you really think for all my failings that WiO and I conspired to come up which similar memories?

    Naw the quote is gone. And if mine isn't there, and WiO's isn't there, then those have been expunged too by....who?

    WiO talked once about a third witness I believe. I don't know who that is, all I remember is WiO and I but he may be right.

    After all the shit rat has said about the rape of my daughter and a thousand other things, fuck him, I'm not wasting the time.

    Further Trish that great observer of human conduct once said

    "Rat, there is something really wrong with you."

    rat who used to call her den mother all the time.

    I like deuce a lot, he has his failings as well.


  21. I'm finished with the topic except to observe after the initial assault rat was more or less saying I didn't really say that about killing, and now he says go find it with a tone of confidence. It is gone.


  22. Lone wolf. The mere mention of the phrase invokes a sense of fear and dread. It conjures up images of an unknown, malicious plotter working alone and silently to perpetrate an unpredictable, undetectable and unstoppable act of terror.


    While the threat of lone wolves conducting terrorist attacks is real, the first step in putting the threat into context is understanding how long it has existed. To say it is nothing new really means that it is an inherent part of human conflict, a way for a weaker entity — even a solitary one — to inflict pain upon and destabilize a much larger entity.


    In 1992, another of the Fort Smith defendants, former Ku Klux Klan Leader Louis Beam, published an essay in his magazine “The Seditionist” that provided a detailed roadmap for moving the white hate movement toward the leaderless resistance model. This roadmap called for lone wolves and small “phantom” cells to engage in violent action to protect themselves from detection.

    Lone-Wolf Hype

  23. Then, leave it "Gone," Dammit.

    Along with all the other stupid religious shit.

  24. I don't even know WiO have never corresponded with him, all I know is he lives in Ohio, is Jewish, and drives a Rufus approved Benz.


  25. I adore your site very much. Will bookmark. Keep up to great work on it. Thank you.

  26. Lord Have Mercy, Sam. That "Stand By Me" was Wonderful. Where/How do you find this stuff?

    Thanks a Million. :)

  27. Ma was in the kitchen fiddling around when she hollers out, "Pa! You need to go out and fix the outhouse!"
    Pa replies, "There ain't nuthin wrong with the outhouse."
    Ma yells back, "Yes there is, now git out there and fix it."
    So Pa mosies out to the outhouse, looks around and yells back, "Ma! There ain't nuthin wrong with the outhouse!"
    "Ma replies, "Stick yur head in the hole!"
    Pa yells back, "I ain't stickin my head in that hole!
    "Ma says, "Ya have to stick yur head in the hole to see what to fix."
    So with that, Pa sticks his head in the hole, looks around and yells back, "Ma! There ain't nuthin wrong with this outhouse!"
    Ma hollers back, "Now take your head out of the hole!"
    Pa proceeds to pull his head out of the hole, then starts yelling, "Ma! Help! My beard is stuck in the cracks in the toilet seat!"
    To which Ma replies, "Hurts, don't it?!"

  28. The average age of a French oak tree harvested for use in wine barrels is 170 years!

  29. .

    It is in that nonsense about
    Atlas Shrugged which, I recall, Quirk said is a 'really really shitty outlook on life.'

    Quirk do you really think for all my failings that WiO and I conspired to come up which similar memories?

    Naw the quote is gone. And if mine isn't there, and WiO's isn't there, then those have been expunged too by....who?...

    You said yourself, rat didn't literally say the things you accuse him of. Therefore, whatever was said was your interpretation of what he meant. Conspire? Hell, Bob if WiO said jump, you'd say "How high." No conspiracy needed.

    You also seem to be saying I was part of the general conversation at the time. I recall nothing like what you imply. It seems, other than you and WiO, no one else does either. And you'll recall I reread every post on the blog for over a year in pulling together the Boscos.

    Could I have missed reading it the first time or the second, read it differently than you or WiO? Sure. But everyone else? And now you imply either Deuce or Whit took the time to go back searching through thousands of posts just to cover rat's tracks for him. Does that really make sense?

    Rat denies saying anything like what you accuse him of. You and WiO are the only two arguing your interpretation of what he did say and neither of you are willing to go back and dig up the offending post.

    Without the evidence, your continued repetition of the accusation seems a little petty.

    Just drop it an move on. You've got plenty of other things to argue with rat about.


  30. .

    The average age of a French oak tree harvested for use in wine barrels is 170 years!

    What is the median age?


  31. I am amused when called a "racist", mainly because the term is as absurd to me as "diversity" or any other word that is used as a thought-clutch. I believe in speaking my mind as others speak their deed and fear to speak their mind. Philadelphia is an interesting but not unique example. There are some schools in Philadelphia that are 99% black. Is that a coincidence? Philadelphia was a predominately white city and entire neighborhoods that once were white or not entirely black. Why is that?

    Did all those white people leave their property, their homes and their neighborhood because they were racist?

    Do white people fear going into black neighborhoods because they are full of hate? Is what has happened to almost every major American city the result of people fearing "diversity"?

    Are statisticians in the FBI racists because they can count? Am I because I can analyze those statistics and have no fear of looking to the consequences of truth in facts? Blacks constitute 12% of the US population, thus males make up 6% and black males between 15 to 40 are somewhat less than 3% of the US population. FBI statistics infer that 3% of the population commit 60% of the violent crime. That is true across the country. It is true in England where the black population is less than a third of the US percentage.

    Bob, let me put it into perspective for you. Think of young black thugs as urban wolves. Think of their neighbors as once great herds of urban elk. The elk have vanished or are much reduced in numbers. Pity the wolves do you?

  32. WIO was not given keys to the gate because he does not need them. 80-90% of what WIO says is all about Israel. He is often a prolific poster of cut and paste about Israel. He will post that regardless of the subject. He cannot help himself.

    There are many blogs and bloggers that post Israeli flags touting their love for Israel I do not love countries. I do not love media. I do not love politicians. I do not love Israel. Israel does not need my love. Israel has the wealth and power to do what she wants, but she should do so without involving me or my country. Israel should not be getting one dime from US taxpayers. Neither should Germany, Sweden, France, England or Spain. Out of that group, my least favorite are the Germans and I do not love any of them.

    I do not love Washington. Why would I love Tel Aviv or Jerusalem or London?

    I have some Israeli friends but they are not my best friends. I loath Bibi Netanyahu, not because he is a Jew. Why is that so hard to understand?

    Israel is a small socialist country that sucks the oxygen from US politics. Mitt Romney last night said there should be no space between Israel and the US. Why is that Bob? What is so special about Israel? Why does my questioning that mean that I hate Jews?

    There are more political parties in Israel than have ever been in the US. Most of them loath each other. Does that mean they are anti-semetic?

    Christians tormented and murdered Jews for centuries because Jews did not love the Jew, Jesus. I have never murdered anyone. Christians murdered native American tribes because they did not love Jesus as much as the Christians loved Jesus. This was all done in the name of God. God made them do it.

    I want no part of any of it. If I hear voices it is usually because I left a radio on. My turban is a TNT free area.

    I want to be left alone to live my life and wish the same for others.

    WIO has full reign to post what he likes. He has been moderated by me no more than 4-5 times. You on the other hand Bob have been moderated many times.


    I was not unique in receiving the anger of Trish. Trish was an extremely bright and articulate woman who often spoke in riddles She was interesting and entertaining. She used this place for her own pleasure, as I do. Unique and quirky would describe most of the present and past patrons of the bar who have come, gone and stayed. I hate none of them and have only banned one for cause but in a true Christian spirit welcomed him back to the flock.

  33. On to more interesting things:

    More news from paradise

    Iran 'steals surface-to-air missiles from Libya'
    Iran's Revolutionary Guards have stolen dozens of sophisticated Russian-made surface-to-air missiles from Libya and smuggled them across the border to neighbouring Sudan, according to Western intelligence reports.

  34. …but the Nato bombing had such good intentions…

    American and European intelligence agencies have now launched a coordinated effort to track down the missing weapons in North Africa to make sure they cannot be used for a fresh wave of terrorist attacks against Western targets.

    The good news is that it created jobs, good, well paying jobs

  35. Intelligence officials now fear that the missiles and other weapons will fall into the hands of extremists and will be used to carry out terror attacks.

    Perhaps had theses officials had been more intelligent this could have been foreseen.

  36. "Gary Johnson says his neighbors two dogs have created more shovel-ready jobs than President Obama."

    Johnson 2012 !

  37. WhackJobDinnerJacket is an engineer.

    He has concluded the airplanes alone could not have brought down the towers.

    Rat sez WhackJob 2012 !

  38. Misery Index when Obama took office: - 7.8

    Today: - 12.8

  39. They've taken the Regulatory Burden of Citizenship off the necks of businessmen in Texas.

  40. If you don't give illegals $88,000 to go to college you don't have a heart.

    - Rick Perry

    Family values don't stop at the border.

    - GW Bush

  41. Good to know how much better than us they are.

    In the holier and corrupter than thou category.

  42. No, doug, rat says that Pakistan should have been the primary target, in the "War on Terror", not Iraq.

    That GW Bush wasted a trillion USD and never delivered the goods.

    Except to Russia, where US security now guarantees delivery of all the heroin they can mainline.

  43. Responsibilities of office come after matters of the heart for Christians in Texas.

    ...and campaign donors, of course.

  44. Texas was a State in Mexico, long before it was United with the other States of the American Union.

    As was California.

    As will be said of the other States, in Mexico, with time.

    Where oh where, dougo, is your revolutionary spirit?

    Viva la Revolution!

  45. Those F-16's we gave them could gaurantee delivery of Nukes.
    (no codes needed)

    Them's our allies!

  46. boobie, the petulant one, continues to entertain.

    He now has sunk to lying about the lies he told, before.

    Such a tangled web he weaves, as he practices to deceive.

  47. You seem to have gotten under his skin.

  48. Our historic enemy has always been the government in Mexico, we have fought three wars and numerous skirmishes with them, over the years/

    Now we are subverting their culture, with education and wanton Walmartism. To include banking services for the general public, there in Mexico.

    As Charlie Sheen was heard to say, as he left arbitration ...


  49. According to the Texas Transportation Institute Philadelphia wastes 39 hours worth of gas sitting in traffic per year. We rate 12th on the list.

    Chicago and Washington top the list at 70 hours per year.

    In the wee hours of winter, I let my car run for 10 to 15 minutes. It needs to be toasty warm before I get in it. I wonder how much gas I waste by doing that.

  50. Well, doug, I am usually correct and it drives him to petulance.

    Both he and "o" follow the lawyers creed:

    When the facts are on your side, argue the facts. When the law is on your side, argue the law. And when you don’t have either the law or the facts on your side, pound the table!

    It is entertaining to watch them melt down.

    Pounding away, as they do.

  51. Solyndra execs will claim the 5th before Congress.
    Citing the Justice Dept Investigation...

    Winning !

  52. The situation in Eygpt comes to mind.

    Both of our petulant ones tell US that Egypt is lost. That the Islamoids have taken over, when nothing could be further from the truth.

    The Egyptian Army still runs Egypt, as it did during the Mubarak era.

    There was no change in substance, just a small shift in "style".

  53. As is their Constitutional right, doug.

    Would you grant them immunity from prosecution, to gain their testimony?

    Those execs are, more than likely, fraudsters who took advantage of the Energy Department under Mr Bush, then closed their deal when Obama took over.

    The Federals, more than likely, are a victim of con artists.

  54. Who would you rather see shamed, the con artists or the victim?

    If the Execs had any real dirt on Team Obama, the House committee would grant them immunity.

    Instead the GOP will use the executives application of their Constitutional rights as an admission of guilt and then use that to smear Obama by association.

    Lots of smoke, a few mirrors.

  55. Bob: And the keeping of WiO off the stardom list up there speaks LOUDLY. Why isn't he up there, he has done nothing egregious.

    I would love to be on the stardom list too, Bob, but I'm like Deuce, I don't love Bibi and Lieberman and what the IDF did to the USS Liberty, so I'm anti-Zionist, which makes me anti-Semitic, which makes me anti-Jew, which makes me a Nazi, and WiO complained about me being a bartender, so to shut him the hell up I asked to be removed.

  56. Holder's "Justice" Dept is doing what they are doing for one reason:
    Giving Obama Administration cover til after the election.

  57. The Con Man in Cheif resides in the Whitehouse.

    Raking in coin from the Billionaire backer of Solar Con Inc.

  58. I love a good night's sleep, and I didn't get one. So you can all kiss my rusty, royal, red ass, today.

  59. Obama admin reworked Solyndra loan to favor donor

    ""We have incurred significant net losses since our inception, including a net loss of $114.1 million in 2007, $232.1 million in 2008 and $119.8 million in the first nine months of fiscal 2009, and we had an accumulated deficit of $505 million at Oct. 3, 2009," the company said in a December 2009 filing to the SEC. "We expect to continue to incur significant operating and net losses and negative cash flow from operations for the foreseeable future.""

    Without DOE's agreement to restructure Solyndra's loan, the company likely would have faced bankruptcy much earlier — in December 2010" or soon after, Silver said. "Restructuring gave them a fighting chance to compete and succeed, and kept approximately 1,000 workers from losing their jobs."

    Republicans were not impressed.

    Under terms of the February loan restructuring, two private investors — Argonaut Ventures I LLC and Madrone Partners LP — stand to be repaid before the U.S. government if the solar company is liquidated. The two firms gave the company a total of $69 million in emergency loans. The loans are the only portion of their investments that have repayment priority above the U.S. government.

    Argonaut is an investment vehicle of the George Kaiser Family Foundation of Tulsa, Okla. The foundation is headed by billionaire George Kaiser, a major Obama campaign contributor and a frequent visitor to the White House. Kaiser raised between $50,000 and $100,000 for Obama's 2008 campaign, federal election records show. Kaiser has made at least 16 visits to the president's aides since 2009, according to White House visitor logs.

  60. What is interesting, with regards to Mexico.

    While much is made of the impact that Mexico and Mexicans are having in the US, nothing is ever mentioned of the reciprocal aspects of the arrangement.

    The stability of Mexico is the paramount issue effecting the US, from abroad.

    More so than anything that happens in Egypt, Syria or Israel.
    More than France, England, Germany, with their weak cousins in Greece, Italy and Spain, combined.

    The US having far greater impact upon the society of Mexico than the Mexicans are having in the US, great as that may appear to be.

    Still Winning, are we.

  61. Those top solyndra guys were just crooks, gaming the system. We'll find a bunch of that money squirrelled away in Bermuca, or the Caymans, or Panama, whatnot.

  62. Now, I gotta go spend the morning doing something I don't wsnt to do, so kiss my ass one and all.


  63. ...although that is the Right Wing Rag,
    Atlanta Journal and Constipation

  64. "The stability of Mexico is the paramount issue effecting the US, from abroad."

    The US Govt has done more to destroy the stability of Mexico than any other entity.

  65. Crony capitalism is keystone to the American Way, doug.

    Has been since the end of WWII and the advance of Federal Socialism in the economy.

    Few alive, today, have a memory of America before FDR.
    None recall the way we were before the Progressives amended the Constitution and removed significant portions of the checks and balances the Founders had designed into the System. Design "flaws" that protected the peoples freedoms and liberty from Federal hyper-power.

    The direct election of Senators
    The removal of State apportionment from Federal tax collections
    The establishment of a National Bank.

  66. We don't need WiO on the bartenders list. DR and I have everything under control. We case the joint and eliminate any unwanted guests.

    We have complete control of what goes on here at the EB.

    ( :

  67. Meanwhile, illegals have turned central California into a lawless, Spanish-Only wasteland.
    ...and disrupted schools across the nation.
    In concert with liberal policies, of course.
    With aid from low wage GOP crooksters like Perry and Bush.

  68. Deuce I read your speech to Bob. It made me laugh more than my letters. I think you should do a post on it.

  69. Well, doug, Mexico is in America.
    More so than Hawaii.

    There are, I think, 37 States remaining under the control of the government in Mexico City.

    The 7 Mexican States that make up the northern tier of that country, those border States have been greatly impacted by US.

    Environmental and workplace standards, along with wages, are approaching US standards, there.

    They will soon be ready for membership in the American Union.

    They, along with the addition of Puerto Rico, would get US to 58 States and at least another 30 million citizens.

    Freedom and Liberty, on the march.
    The spirit of Jefferson and Jackson lives!

    Viva la Revolution!

  70. deuce wrote:

    "black males between 15 to 40 are somewhat less than 3% of the US population. FBI statistics infer that 3% of the population commit 60% of the violent crime."

    That is all fine and dandy but what makes one racist is to take statistics like you cite and draw the conclusion that it is because of their race - i.e. they can't help it because they are black.

    Your detestation of Obama often appears because he is black and not for what he says and does Your grasping firmly at the alleged homo coke meme is one meme that comes to mind. Similarly your glee at his running afoul of the Jewish vote even though his Israel positions are far closer to yours than the Republicans.

  71. We need a new candidate:

    Both Romney and Perry gave Obama plenty of ammo to use against either of them.

  72. Short of direct annexation, the US has been moving towards practical integration, with Mexico.

    This has been the course of the United States, since 1942.

    The statistics do not bolster your case that Mexico has been damaged by the association.

    Indeed the standard of living, in Mexico, has greatly improved since 1942.

    We've advanced US interests, in Mexico, further through economic means than through the three historic military interventions/invasions of Mexico.

  73. Where's that Deuce Speech, Mel?

  74. Responding to that nonsense would make me lose sleep, 'Rat.
    Maybe I'll get to it later.
    ...or not.

  75. Dance with them what brought you, dougo.

    There are no other candidates.

    Nor will there be.

  76. I would have enjoyed living in Mexico 40 years ago.
    Couldn't pay me enuff now.
    I, and most Mexican citizens value having our bodies connected to our heads, and said bodies above room temperature.

  77. Look Whit!

    I know you're not here anymore, but I sense you lurking.

    I never knew Norah Jones did a movie

  78. Much was made of the fact that Israeli security forces did not fire upon any of the 400,000 protestors that have been in the streets there, lately.

    When the Palestinians take to the streets, we shall see if the Israeli show the same restraint, or behave in a manner more reminiscent of how Mr Assad treats political protestors, in Syria.

    Tribal politics.

  79. While there is an unacceptable level of violence, in Mexico, it does not compare to the levels of 1910-1920.

    Indeed, if one listens to what the Mexican Federales say, they are on the correct path in their narco war, that they are tracking the results of the successful Colombian campaign.

    As the noose tightens, the miscreants thrash about, all the more.

  80. Rather than sending the US Army after the Mexican bandits, we have our local proxies do it.

    Political progress through continental integration.

    The techniques utilized by Black Jack Pershing, against Pancho Villa, falling ever further behind US, in the Americas.

    The USMC need not invade Mexico, landing and lay siege to Vera Cruz, again.

  81. If you look at the images ofThe Mexican Army, you'll see no difference in appearance from the US Army.

    Same uniforms, same equipment.

  82. Abstract: The North American Aerospace Defense Command (NORAD) has repeatedly adapted to meet a range of national security concerns. First created to confront the growing Soviet bomber threat, NORAD’s mission has been expanded to provide aerospace and maritime warning for North America. However, U.S. and Canadian security interests do not end at the U.S.–Mexico border. To enable NORAD to better fulfill its mission, the United States and Canada should invite Mexico to join NORAD. Mexican participation would greatly enhance NORAD’s aerial and maritime surveillance capabilities in North America and help to build a common strategic vision across North America.

    Heritage Foundation-
    Expand NORAD to Improve Security in North America


  83. The Merida Initiative has provided a platform to deepen U.S.-Mexico relations.
    This has enabled the U.S. to assume more control over Mexican security priorities and intelligence operations.
    A U.S. State Department fact sheet entitled United States-Mexico Security Partnership: Progress and Impact proclaimed how both, “governments have built on the foundations of the Merida Initiative to establish four strategic areas to guide our cooperation and institutionalize our partnership:
    disrupt organized criminal groups;
    strengthen institutions;
    create a 21st century border;
    and build strong and resilient communities.”
    A New Border Vision for the 21st century is, “based on the principles of joint border management, co-responsibility for cross-border crime, and shared commitment to the efficient flow of legal commerce and travel.”

  84. Deep from the heart of Texas:


    A Texas border city and its Mexican counterpart Wednesday will sign an agreement to foster border security through economic incentives rather than physical security measures.

    The cities of Brownsville, Texas, and Matamoros, Mexico, plan to sign a joint declaration that would outline their intent to establish a Zone for Bi-National Economic Development (or Bi-NED) that would encourage commerce between the two cities as well as bolster border security.

    The Bi-NED agreement would recognize secure trade corridors and economic development centers, where the cities would target "capital improvements education workforce training, and economic development in the borderland," according to Imagine Brownsville, a public-private partnership representing stakeholders in the city's 10-year economic development plan. The agreement will generate economic and legal incentives aimed at generating investment and development and increasing employment rates along the US-Mexico border.

    "The signing of the proclamation will confirm that there is an emerging realization that cooperative economic investment as opposed to government policing or creation of a physically impassable border is the best hope for restoring order and encouraging prosperity," said Imagine Brownsville in a press release.

    The cities of Brownsville and Matamoros have been working on the foundation for the economic development pact for several months, officials said. The goal of the agreement is to drive up prosperity and hence security for inhabitants along the 2,000 mile US-Mexico border, they said.

    "A sustainable border community development effort, Bi-NED will address the overlapping concerns of the countries' businesses and citizenry and will stress the critical importance of implementing economic development initiatives in conjunction with traditional security control measures to effectively address security and immigration issues along the border,"


  85. "The signing of the proclamation will confirm that there is an emerging realization that cooperative economic investment as opposed to government policing or creation of a physically impassable border is the best hope for restoring order and encouraging prosperity,"

  86. .

    When the Palestinians take to the streets, we shall see if the Israeli show the same restraint, or behave in a manner more reminiscent of how Mr. Assad treats political protestors, in Syria.

    The Obama administration continues to make a laughing stock of itself calling for negotiations. The last time they set up negotiations between Israel and the Palis, they lasted all of three weeks.

    They purportedly broke down because Israel refused to extend the moratorium on settlements. Merely an excuse. If it hadn't been settlements, it would have been something else, or as a last resort one side or the other would have invented a new excuse.

    Negotiations? Hell negotiations have been going on for over forty years. Given the current circumstances, negotiations are merely a way of kicking the can down the road (or until after elections, here, in Israel, or in the West Bank). They are a joke.

    There will be no negotiated settlement until events or actions by one or both parties force it.


  87. .

    This has enabled the U.S. to assume more control over Mexican security priorities and intelligence operations.

    Right. Just what we need.


  88. .

    Indeed, if one listens to what the Mexican Federales say, they are on the correct path in their narco war, that they are tracking the results of the successful Colombian campaign.

    Right, 40,000 dead. One can only imagine the toll if they weren't doing such a bang-up job.


  89. The idea that there could be "Two States", in an area the size of Maricopa County, Arizona, is asinine.

    Barely enough people for one State, inclusive of the current resident Palestinians and the returning refugees, from the UN administered camps in Jordon and Lebanon.

  90. It is entirely possible to have a
    "small state" Brussels, Luxemburg and Monaco immediately spring to mind.

  91. "Right, 40,000 dead. One can only imagine the toll if they weren't doing such a bang-up job."

    We're going to frame it as outdoing Obama's post-natal abortion birth control.

    Very late term population control.

  92. The toll would be lower, if the Federales turn a blind eye to the contrabandistas, Q.

    If the entire country was corrupt, the Army would not be pursuing the miscreants.

    Look to Colombia, where violence certainly peaked, before it diminished.
    The Mexicans are tracking that same path.

    The majority of the 40,000 dead were either cartel members, migrants from further south, police and media people.

    That US policies with regards to drugs and immigration are causing "trouble" in Mexico, true enough.

    The idea that the US is not addressing those challenges created by it's policies, false.

    Yhe US is fully engaged, in Mexico, on both the governmental and commercial fronts.

    Remittances to Mexico run $21 billion per year.

    While the State Department says:
    The U.S. was once again the largest foreign investor in Mexico, accounting for 45% ($6.4 billion FDI from the U.S.) of reported FDI

  93. What Bravo Sierra.There is a difference between candor and hate. What is hate speech anyway other than a stupid term that attempts to stop people speaking/writing freely. If someone says something hateful to me, so what! What goes round comes round.

    We live in the tyranny of the offended feeling.

  94. Gaza is the size of Scottsdale, AZ.
    The Whole of Israel, including the occupied territories is the size of Maricopa County.

    One State, perhaps, but two, not a chance.

    The limited resources back dual administration impossible. It makes a "fair" distribution of those resources impossible.

    One State, perhaps.
    The Israeli and Palestinians, complete with the "Right of Return" for the Arab refugees and their descendents from 1942, could form a democratic State, but whether or not it'd be "Jewish", is doubtful.

    Whether it was called Palestine or Israel, problematic.
    The meaning of being a Palestinian, an ever evolving thing.

  95. Ash: That is all fine and dandy but what makes one racist is to take statistics like you cite and draw the conclusion that it is because of their race - i.e. they can't help it because they are black.

    What else do they have in common that differentiates them from the general population?

    it is a statistical anomaly? Why doesn't any other sub group fall into the same category in the same numbers?

    Why do you deny the obvious?

  96. So you are asserting that their race is the cause then, right? By definition that makes you a racist. You might fare better arguing that there is nothing wrong with being a racist.

  97. Belgium Area:
    total: 30,528 sq km
    10 ten million folk.

    total: 20,770 sq km
    10 million folk.

    Singapore, under 1,000 sq km
    4 million folk, a classic City-State.

    In Belgium and Singapore, a homogenous population.
    Culturally attuned.

    Neither a nation of immigrants.

  98. .

    While the State Department says:
    The U.S. was once again the largest foreign investor in Mexico, accounting for 45% ($6.4 billion FDI from the U.S.) of reported FDI

    Nothing new here. You speak of comparisons between 1910-1920 and now. In 1910, the Mexican revolution started in response to the government confiscating land and cowtowing to foreigners' business interests, especially those of the US. A fifth of the land in Mexico was owned by foreigners with the US holding the biggest share.

    Back then, like Obama with the 'Arab Spring', the US was against the revolution before they were for it.

    You applaud the US getting involved and taking over Mexican intelligence operations. I don't.

    I suspect the boys in OZ will manage to screw up Mexico as much as they have the US.


  99. With regards the crime rates and race/ethnicity.

    From the immigration debate there was a visible correlation between increased crime rates caused by that segment of society seemingly mired in poverty and lack of economic opportunity.

    Where the Irish congregated, crime increased. Same was true of Italians when their turn came.

    Now, rather than immigrants, it is the "Blacks" that fill that segment of society that is adversely effected by the realities of poor education and limited economic opportunity.

  100. What you do in Mexico is take out the drug lords' nice stuff (mansions, Lear jets) with Predator drones. Where's the fun in buying stuff if you can't keep it?

  101. It is not that I applaud it, Q, but I certainly recognize the reality of it.

    I recognize that we are on a path to Continental integration.

    I certainly applaud the idea that the American Revolution continues.
    That we continue to press forward, carrying the bright light of the Enlightenment, highly.

    Secure in the knowledge that all men are created equal and that they are endowed with inalienable rights.

    Viva la Revolution!

  102. .

    You might fare better arguing that there is nothing wrong with being a racist.

    Why argue about racism at all? Or being a bigot, or an anti-semite. In one sense, I agree with logos. There is little point in calling someone any of these terms.

    Each individual will make their own determination about whether racism or bigotry are factors in another person's position. Verbalizing that belief proves nothing.

    The obvious use of the terms racist, bigot, or anti-semite is an ad hominem attack meant to discredit the other person argument. It is a logical fallacy, a red herring meant to stir emotion.

    The logical approach would be to attack the persons arguments not his motivations. In the case of a true racist or bigot, that is usually pretty easy as they themselves usual put forward irrational assertions or numbers that are easily challenged.

    Continuing to throw around these terms while offering no proof of their validity merely gives the impression that the accuser himself is merely a race baiter.


  103. .

    That we continue to press forward, carrying the bright light of the Enlightenment, highly.

    The term nitwit comes to mind.

    However, based on my previous post, I am trying to clean up my act and come up with a more logical argument.

    Unfortunately, I will have to get back to you once I have come up with a more appropriate term.



  104. I thought that was kind of catchy, rather than reusing the "Shining City on a Hill" line.

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  106. I meant nothing pejorative about it Quirk - the logic is simple:

    rac·ism (r s z m) n. 1. The belief that race accounts for differences in human character or ability and that a particular race is superior to others.

    If, as Deuce appears to assert, that being of the race 'black' is the cause of the high crime rate (as opposed to the other reasons suggested by Rat) then it follows that one is racist (assuming you think that high crime rate connotes inferior behavior).

    If that is truly his belief he should wear the moniker proudly as opposed to claiming that he is not racist.

  107. Let me see. If I notice that most sprinters are black and that most NBA ball players are black am I to conclude that blacks make better sprinters and basketball players? Is that racist?

    If I notice that Jews are overwhelmingly disproportionately represented in science, medicine and the arts, can I draw the conclusion that as a group they are more intelligent that other groups?

    Without a philosophical high wire act, one could conclude that the physical attributes of one group makes them better suited for intellectual pursuits, another group is better suited for sprinting and basketball.

    Now for the doctrinaire liberal test: Let's put a team of Jewish doctors up against LA Lakers and then let's have the LA Lakers take an AST exam. who are you betting on Ash?

    Intellectual and criminal pursuits are controlled by the human brain as is sprinting and basketball. Legs and coordination are other physical attributes. By definition, one group being better suited for one thing means that another group is less well suited. That is the way it is.

    I said young black males, with a population of less than 3% of the US total commit 60% of violent crimes. that is a fact. You attribute my noticing that to racism. That is your hangup, not mine.

  108. no Deuce what determines the racism question is the answer to this question that you asked:

    "What else do they have in common that differentiates them from the general population?"

    If your answer is "nothing other than black" then presto. I'm curious, Deuce, are Jews better suited to be doctors and Blacks better suited to be criminals?

  109. .

    I meant nothing pejorative about it Quirk - the logic is simple:

    And I meant nothing pejorative in my post. I merely posed a question and some comments that were tangientially related to Logos' post.


  110. Teresita said...
    I don't love... and what the IDF did to the USS Liberty...

    This may come as a shock, but neither do I. The difference is I do not attribute it to malice.

    At about the same tine the USS Liberty was being attacked mistakenly by Israel, the 1st Battalion, Ninth Marines (about 800 strong) would suffer 93
    % killed quite maliciously by an enemy that was permitted sanctuary some 2-10 miles away.

    About 750 Marines died because AMERICAN politicians and officers lied. You want to get your knickers in a knot, think about that for a minute.

    I know Israelis who know more than anyone here will ever know about the Liberty. I KNEW a bunch of those kids in 1/9. You don't know squat.

    Give it a break!