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Wednesday, September 21, 2011

Mexico is a Failed Narco State and a Security Threat to US

21 September 2011 Last updated at 03:24 ET BBC

Bodies of 35 people abandoned in trucks in Mexico

General view of the scene where 35 bodies were found at the Adolfo Ruiz Cortinez Blvd in Boca del Rio municipality, Veracruz State, Mexico, 20 September 2011Officials suspect the killings stemmed from drug gang rivalry
Mexican gunmen blocked an underpass on a busy road in the state of Veracruz and abandoned 35 bodies in the backs of two trucks, authorities said.
Horrified witnesses sent messages on Twitter as gunmen began blocking the road in the centre of Boca del Rio.
Some of the victims had their hands tied and showed signs of having been tortured, reports said.
Veracruz, on the Gulf of Mexico coast, has seen a spike in drug-related violence in recent months.
On Tuesday afternoon, people began to tweet that gunmen wearing military uniforms were blocking the underpass and dumping the bodies.
"They don't seem to be soldiers or police," a tweet read, according to Associated Press. Another said: "Don't go through that area, there is danger."
Strategic port
Veracruz Attorney general Reynaldo Escobar said the corpses were found in two vehicles. Of the seven victims so far identified, all had criminal records, he said.
"We have begun the corresponding investigations and have identified some of the bodies and have confirmed that they all had prior criminal records and were involved with organised crime, like kidnapping, extortion, homicide, among other crimes."
Mr Escobar added: "We have never seen a situation like this before."
On Monday, 32 prisoners escaped from three jails in Veracruz, but Mr Escobar said there was no indication that any of the inmates were among those killed.
Local media reported that some had been found with their hands bound and appeared to have been tortured.
Veracruz had been spared much of the drug-related crime that has other regions of Mexico, but has recently witnessed an escalation of violence.
The upsurge has been blamed on a struggle between the Zetas and its rivals, the La Familia and Gulf cartels, for control of drug smuggling routes.
Security expert Alberto Islas said drug gangs were looking to gain control of the area as they broadened their global reach.
"Veracruz is an important strategic port. That has always been true for trade and commerce, but it's now also true for drug exports," Mr Islas told Reuters news agency.
More than 40,000 people have been killed in Mexico since President Felipe Calderon declared war on the drugs cartels in 2006.
Map showing areas of influence of Mexican drug cartels


  1. We do not need another Ex-Texas governor to be the next US President to ignore the border.

  2. 2010 Statistics
    Data compilled from Federal Bureau of Investigation and Department of Homeland Security reports indicate:

    *83% of warrants for murder in Phoenix are for illegal aliens.

    *86% of warrants for murder in Albuquerque are for illegal aliens.

    *75% of those on the most wanted list in Los Angeles , Phoenix and Albuquerque are illegal aliens.

    *24.9% of all inmates in California detention centers are Mexican nationals.

    *40.1% of all inmates in Arizona detention centers are Mexican nationals.

    *48.2% of all inmates in New Mexico detention centers are Mexican nationals.

    *29% (630,000) convicted illegal alien felons fill our state and Federal prisons at a cost of $1.6 billion annually.

    *53% plus of all investigated burglaries reported in California, New Mexico, Nevada, Arizona and Texas are perpetrated by illegal aliens.

    *50% plus of all gang members in Los Angeles are illegal aliens.

    *71% plus of all apprehended cars stolen in 2005 in Texas, New Mexico, Arizona, Nevada and California were stolen by Illegal aliens or "transport coyotes".

    *47% of cited/stopped drivers in California have no license, no insurance and no registration for the vehicle. Of that 47%, 92% are illegal aliens.

    *63% of cited/stopped drivers in Arizona have no license, no insurance and no registration for
    the vehicle. Of that 63%, 97% are illegal aliens.

    *66% of cited/stopped drivers in New Mexico have no license, no insurance and no registration for the vehicle. Of that 66% 98% are illegal aliens.

    *380,000 plus "anchor babies" were born in the US to illegal alien parents in just one year, making 380,000 babies automatically US citizens.

    *97.2% of all costs incurred from those illegal births were paid by the American taxpayers.

  3. Mexico is a greater security threat to the US than either Iraq or Afghanistan.

  4. Vote Palin.

    Better yet, lay a minefield. That would stop them and save lives in the long run too.

    For Those Sinister Vegetarians Among Us


  5. Overview of Solved US crimes

    Nationwide in 2006, 44.3 percent of violent crimes and 15.8 percent of property crimes were cleared by arrest or exceptional means.

    Of the violent crimes (murder and nonnegligent manslaughter, forcible rape, robbery, and aggravated assault), murder had the highest percentage of offenses cleared at 60.7 percent.

    Of the property crimes (burglary, larceny-theft, and motor vehicle theft), larceny-theft had the highest percentage of offenses cleared at 17.4 percent.

    The implication to illegal immigrants:

    With 630,000 illegal immigrants in US prisons and an overall conviction rate around 50%, another 600,000 criminals are on US streets. That is a much greater threat to US security than Iraq, Afghanistan and every other Arab shithole combined.

  6. I read a news story some time ago that reported a gang attack on a drug rehab facility. Which seems about as low as you can go.

    I imagine their tourism industry is nearly dead now too? People must get tired of seeing headless bodies hanging upside down from freeway underpasses.


  7. REPORT: SOLYNDRA execs to plead Fifth...


    Second witness says White House tried to steer testimony...



  8. How can people allow this to continue, the levels of violence are not seen anywhere else, not even in Iraq or Afghanistan, the body count is totally out of control and governments seem not to even talk about the issue.

    Why is the US and Nato bombing Libya?

    Why is it that the US is just sitting by and watching Mexico turn into hell on earth?

    What about the good people of Mexico who have nothing to do with crime who are trapped in this hell and must be completely terrorised by this?

    What about their right to a family life?

    Who is listening to their cries for help?

    We cannot lie and pretend that we did not know about this. If it was happening to us, would we not hope that the good people of the world would put pressure on those in power to defend ordinary, decent people who simply want to live their lives in peace but cannot?

    Or have we all just given up and are content to let the powers that be allow countries to implode and good people to be terrorised by criminals while we go about our daily business?

    If so, we are ALL doomed. Our turn will come around.

    There must be something that the rest of the world can do to save Mexico from the brutality of the criminals, surely?

  9. You don't have a great deal of regard for Mexico and you see it as a 3rd class neighbor.

    I regularly go to Mexico and will continue to do so to enjoy the people and culture as the majority of the country is relatively unaffected to the extent the world press would have you believe.

  10. I see Mexico as a first class security threat.

  11. Approximately 40,000 people have been killed in the Mexican drug wars since 2006.

  12. Approximately 40,000 people have been killed in the Mexican drug wars since 2006.

    And that's up there with the numbers from Vietnam.

    I'd never go there, I'd feel like a sitting duck if not from the gangs then from the police.


  13. Approximately 40,000 people have been killed in the Mexican drug wars since 2006.

    Yeah, alcohol prohibition worked in the US too, led to the rise of the Five Families.

  14. You are missing the point. Forget the body count. As long as a country presents itself as a 'democracy' and the rest of the world views it as such, then it is irrelevant to the rest of the world what horrors take place in that country.

    On that basis, referring to the previous post on Nigel Farage, organizations like NATO should be gathering their forces to enter and take control of the continent of Europe, as democracy is no longer present. The (allegedly) democratically elected governments of the European nations have had their powers removed by an unelected mob called the EU who appear to be asset-stripping countries one-by-one with their cohorts, the ECB and the IMF.

    Whenever those countries try and legislate on certain issues, the unelected EU over-rules them. The people of Europe have taxes enforced on them via their energy bills and miscreants and criminals cannot be restrained or deported due to the all powerful ECHR.

    So why is NATO in Libya and not Mexico? There is no democracy there.

    Getting back to the other more relevant issue, there is clearly a breakdown in the democratic system in Mexico when the criminals are running rampant and seemingly nobody can stop them - not the armed forces or the police force.

    When local politicians who stand up to the mob rule are predictably murdered and judges are suspended and accused of complicity in the murder of peace campaigners

    ....then clearly the democratic system has completely broken down and therefore your 'subtle difference' is completely irrelevant.

    Surely a democracy is only present when the state has a monopoly on violence? It is quite clear that this is not the case in Mexico and hasn't been for some time. It is also quite clear that the drug cartels have so much power, influence and cash that almost anybody can be bribed or silenced.

    Call that a democracy? Mexico is no threat?

  15. The idea that the US is not now nor has not, in the past, taken "action" in Mexico is ludicrous.

    If one looks at that color coded map, of Mexico, you'll see that red swath along the eastern coast. Los Zetas area of maximum influence.

    The leadership of that group, trained at Fort Benning, GA., at the School of the Americas.

    The equipment and tactics used by the Mexican Army, all US.

    The largest company, in Mexico, is Walmart, headquartered in Arkansas, USA.

    The Texas governors do not ignore the border, they exploit it.


    Governor of Texas Rick Perry canceled his chance of being President, as he had an insignificant standing on holding back the hordes of illegal aliens. In prior speeches he was more for amnesty than against it and handing out taxpayers money for tuition of illegal immigrant children is not honing the TEA PARTY to support him. The majority of Americans have trusted Politicians like Perry for far too long, good orators in front of crowds, but in actual fact his words are meaningless when it comes to legislating what "The People" really want--such as a real double layer fence across our Southern border--of which he disapproves and is a urgent National Security issue.

    In Furtherance to the growing to the concerns over the border fence that President Obama and Homeland Security Secretary Napolitano declares “that it’s Secure?” Go to the American Patrol” website, and digest the surveys along the 2000 miles of border. It just doesn’t exist. Type into Google American Patrol and add Fence as keywords and then find out the truth and not exaggerations or lies. Thousands of miles still remain wide open, consisting of decaying rusted fencing. Hundreds of miles are just supplemented with vehicle barriers, which anybody could pass through.

    Check and decide for yourself if the borders are controlled on American Patrols full explanatory maps. There are hundreds of miles that federal agents that are even prohibited from the border areas , because of environmental laws that have gone haywire with regulatory policies. Yet the environmentalist remain lock-jawed on the mounds of filth and human effluent left by the thousands of illegal migrants and immigrants who slip through every month, who end up pilfering the taxpayers pockets . I think human life of a rancher comes first before a species of frog or a tiny plant instead of another “political Correct” endangered Species Act..

    Far superior in worth for Presidency is Michele Bachmann and Herman Cain, as neither are part of the GOP establishment. Bachmann, Cain should address strongly the expensive and social consequences of illegal immigration, which is consuming this nation in balkanization and wrecking American democracy. Both are heavily supported by the TEA PARTY and have exceptional immigration grades, to enforce the laws already on the books. Both are Constitutional Conservatives and believe fully in shrinking government, scrapping the present tax code and returning agencies of government to each individual State. Only the REAL TEA PARTY doesn’t crave the illegal alien votes, or massive influx of cheap labor for overwhelming power or profitable interests….

  17. ...Don’t believe in the Liberal Progressives, open border and radical organizations that THE TEA PARTY is an opponent of E-Verify as this is a downright lie. The TEA PARTY NATION that is just one of thousands of independent entities, as the TEA PARTY is just commonplace Americans, who have been kicked around too long. The majority of TEA PARTY members are unbending there will be no more Amnesties. No clandestine small Amnesties that have been happening for years, millions entering annually. True TEA PARTY leaders will rescind any Sanctuary City or State policies, with refusal a loss of federal funds.

    If you are appalled by the mockery of our immigration laws, reach for that phone and call you’re Representative at 202-224-3121. Don't wait--this is a very powerful E-Verify bill that could help millions of Americans find work, especially in the lower incomes. When 20 million Americans are jobless, being only finding temporary or part time work, this should be not the time for hiring foreign nations. My commentary cannot possibly cover the whole travesties perpetrated on Americans, but all evidence of years of failure, unconcern and corruption is available at NumbersUSA, American Patrol and Judicial Watch. There are just three of the hundreds of serious pro-sovereignty organization, fighting the open border zealots.

    In Conclusion, Farmers and Mega-agricultural corporations complaining about E-verify and lose of cheap labor are keeping concealed that when an illegal alien worker is sick, he leaves that unfortunate uninsured soul at the emergency room. His whole families also are treated from a minor cough to a serious illness—which the taxpayers pay for eventually. Same with all the children, that are placed in Public schools—which come out of your taxes, not the farmer’s profits. It’s a fact that State and federal governments appropriate from taxpayers an estimated $113 billion dollars a year in catering to illegal aliens. (Heritage Foundation study)

  18. How about starting action at the border?

  19. While Hispanics are 15% of our population and growing, that growth is mostly coming from outside the country. In fact, according to a Pew Poll, 60% of the Latinos living in America are here illegally from other nations. So that puts their actual voting strength at about 6% of the population.

  20. .

    2010 Statistics
    Data compilled from Federal Bureau of Investigation and Department of Homeland Security reports indicate:

    Amazing statistics Deuce. Do you have the link?


  21. Actually American policy is working for the most part.

    It used to be called the 3rd world brain drain...

    Now we are draining many nations of their decent peoples....

    IE mexico....

    illegals in America from mexico are overwhelmingly the "right" folk...

    yes the dedicated felons need to be weeded out ( I say ship them to AZ to Rat's 50 acres they will feel right at home, after all he trained them)

    Maybe the idea is to allow the decent folk to escape and then turn mexico into an "escape from NY" style place?

  22. according to a Pew Poll, 60% of the Latinos living in America are here illegally from other nations. So that puts their actual voting strength at about 6% of the population.

    I got one word for ya: Motor Voter.

    Okay, that's two words.

    When Arizona tries to toughen the laws against registering illegals to vote, Obama's Justice Department sues.

  23. Cui Bono

    Most of the "bono" ends up in B of A, and Wells Fargo.

  24. Q, I have the data from an old unpublished post. I do not have time to verify the individual statistic, The INS link is no longer up. It is hard to get the data because of PC and you have to really dig into it.

    I looked at one:

    *24.9% of all inmates in California detention centers are Mexican nationals.

    I went to statistics from California government and they do not break it down by "immigration" but do it by race.

    California Prison Statistics show that 39.3% of all prisoners are Hispanic. New admissions to California prisons are 46.4% Hispanic in 2009. With 46.4% of all prison admissions being Hispanic, it certainly seems plausible that half of them could be illegal, especially since an illegal status is in itself a crime and many would be from being pulled over for traffic violations. Obviously I can not prove that from the data published in this report.

    I will test a few of the other statistics when I have time.

  25. While the statistics that Deuce tells us of, with regards to incarceration rates, merely exposes the policy successes that the Republicans had, during the Bush years in the Oval office.

    That those successes seem detrimental to the "Common Good", well, that's just a matter of perception. Tyson Foods is doing well, as is General Motors and Ford Motor Company.

    If the manufacturing plants cannot move to Mexico, the Federals allowed Mexico to come to the plants.

    Labor is a key component to trade.

    Free Trade is King, even when it is not "Fair", if you're a "real" Republican.

  26. Until I have time to find the original link, you can ignore the post. Anyone with the time that cares to challenge any individual part of the data with better information, please do so.

  27. As anon tells US, there is no "Border Fence".

    There never will be one, either.

    The attempts to build one, during the Bush years, merely feathered another corporate crony's nest.

    Dispersing millions in Federal money, without increasing border security.
    Boeing got the money, but never delivered, as promised.

    Just another example of the Federals working hand in glove with the Military Industrial Complex in fleecing the citizens of the United States.

  28. The Mexican economy is anything but failed, if one looks at it from the perspective of the elites in the United States.

    The cell phone industry so strong, in Mexico and across Central America, that Senor Slim the owner of América Móvil, has been able to be a White Knight to the Sulzberg family, saving the New York Times from financial failure.

  29. I spent a fascinating evening a few months back reading about Mexico on Wikipedia. Mexico City, and Suburbs has a Huge GDP.
    A pretty high standard of living.

    It's the non-productive wastelands/desert of N. Mexico that are uncared-for, and forgotten.

    I believe Sarah-baby will get the fence built. I think she's the only one that would.

  30. The fence ...

    Funny stuff.

    Closing the barn door, after the horse has bolted and is gone.
    Ensuring that it cannot return home, to its' stall.

  31. The unification of the continent will continue apace.

    The Mexican government is a Treaty ally. We are committed to its' defense from foreign aggression, as they are to US.

    That giant sucking sound that reverberates across the US, that's progress.

    Federal Socialist style progress.

    Endorsed by Republicans, Democrats the PAN y PRI, across America.


  32. Between 2000 and 2010, consumers paid an average of 85% more per gallon at the pump, according to AAA.

    Federal policy proves a winner, for the cronies of those in charge.

  33. While those in charge of the "Drug War", in Mexico, say that the violence is tracking that often seen in the Narco Wars.

    That it is very similar to the results in Colombia. Where, as the noose of enforcement tighten, violence increased.
    The long term results, the drug lords are now toeing the line.

    Cocaine continues to flow north, just the numbered bank accounts have changed.

  34. Meanwhile, we are using about 2% less gasoline than this time last year. And, last year at this time we were using about 2% less than we were in Sept. of '09.

    In Sept of '09 we were using about 2% less than in Sept of '08, and in Sept of '08 we were using about 4% less than Sept of '07.

    We, steadily use less, and the Price steadily rises.

    I bet your Econ 101 Textbook didn't include THAT scenario.

  35. Meanwhile, we are using about 2% less gasoline than this time last year. And, last year at this time we were using about 2% less than we were in Sept. of '09.

    Because the United States is at peak DEMAND for oil. In the western hemishphere we will do okay with the new production in North Dakota, Alberta, Brazil, and French New Guinea. India and China will grow global demand for a while. So look for an extended plateau.

  36. Look for Recession in the U.S.

    We'll print negative in the 4th qtr, and, possibly, even in the 3rd.

  37. I believe Sarah-baby will get the fence built. I think she's the only one that would.

    I believe Rufus is right.


  38. .

    They panned to Hillary during Obama's speech at the UN.

    The girl is not looking good. She looked pretty tired.

    Strange, given all the foreign policy 'successes' Obama was touting.


  39. And I believe she's electable.

    Hillary is a worn out old bitch. Said Egypt was stable.


  40. Here's what you have to understand: Your gasoline price is not based on that phony WTI-Price you see on television. It's based on the Global price that's represented by Brent, Louisiana Light Sweet, and Prudhoe Bay.

    That price is running in the $110.00 to 113.00 range.

    Here's the problem, China, and the Emerging Nations can prosper at the current Global Price. The U.S. will go into recession at these prices.

  41. .

    U.S. assembling secret drone bases in Africa, Arabian Peninsula, officials say

    The Obama administration is assembling a constellation of secret drone bases for counterterrorism operations in the Horn of Africa and the Arabian Peninsula as part of a newly aggressive campaign to attack al-Qaeda affiliates in Somalia and Yemen, U.S. officials said.

    One of the installations is being established in Ethi­o­pia, a U.S. ally in the fight against al-Shabab, the Somali militant group that controls much of that country. Another base is in the Seychelles, an archipelago in the Indian Ocean, where a small fleet of “hunter-killer” drones resumed operations this month after an experimental mission demonstrated that the unmanned aircraft could effectively patrol Somalia from there.

    The U.S. military also has flown drones over Somalia and Yemen from bases in Djibouti, a tiny African nation at the junction of the Red Sea and the Gulf of Aden. In addition, the CIA is building a secret airstrip in the Arabian Peninsula so it can deploy armed drones over Yemen..."



  42. Think of it, we could elect Sarah and never hear the names Clinton or Obama again!


  43. Elect Sarah to what?

    She is not even a candidate for a Party nomination.

    While the TEA PARTY is a media invention. There is no Tea Party, there are no candidates, no platform, no Convention. All important parts of a political party.
    The Tea Party, only has self-proclaimed "representatives".

    They being political discontents, representing popular dissatisfaction with the status que, that are being effectively marginalized by that status que.

    While the ideas being expressed are discredited by the personal ineptitude of the "representatives".

    The babies will be thrown out, with the bath water.

  44. Anyone with the time that cares to challenge any individual part of the data with better information, please do so.

    I don't have the time or the interest to challenge your statitstics; but as I said, they are interesting and I wanted to check out the source.

    A few of your assumptions were at odds with my thoughts. For instance, you mention 630,000 illegals in US prisions. Since the stream centered on Mexico, I assumed you meant Latino illegals.

    With 630,000 illegal immigrants in US prisons and an overall conviction rate around 50%, another 600,000 criminals are on US streets.

    Yet when I check the government's Bureau of Justice website for the beginning of 2010, it only shows about 320,000 total Latinos in state and federal prisons (that is total Latinos, legal and illegal).

    I won't question your number; perhaps, there is some confusion on how the data bases are organized.

    However, where I would differ from you are on your assumptions. For instance, you assume since there 630,000 in prision with a 50% conviction rate that the other 50% (600,000) are guilty even though they haven't been convicted of anything.

    Likewise, your assumption that illegals are more prone to commit crimes (other than being illegal) than either legal immigrants or natural borne citizens. We have plenty of anecdotal reporting of illegals committing crimes, but I would suspect on the whole that illegals would be especially wary of committing crimes given their precarious status anyway.

    I've stated before I am all for combating the inflow of illegal aliens but some of the statistics and assumptions thrown about make me shake my head.


  45. boobie, Egypt is stable.

    Stable and on our side of the table.
    Moving into a closer alignment with our NATO ally, Turkey.

    Turkey, which still maintains 90 US supplied B61 nuclear gravity bombs at Incirlik Air Base.

  46. .

    Detroit Lions make it into the top 10 in the NFL Power Rankings. Not bad for being 0-16 two years ago.


  47. Rat is frustrated again early this morning.

    The Clintons and the Obamas run out of D.C. and bested by one of our ladies educated right here, doing it her way.

    I hope she does run.



  48. Ambassador

    Remarks as Prepared for Delivery by U.S. Assistant Secretary of Defense Homeland Defense and Americas' Security Affairs Helicopter Handover Ceremony

    September 15, 2011

    It is my privilege to join you to today to mark the dedication of three UH-60M Black Hawk helicopters to SEMAR as part of the Merida Initiative. I want to extend a special thank you to (our hosts). The Department of Defense is very proud of our growing relationship with SEMAR and the important work that we are doing together. As we celebrate the 201st anniversary of Mexico’s independence, I would like to take this opportunity to underscore our respect for the patriotism, courage, and resolve of President Calderon, his government, the Mexican military, and Mexican security forces in their ongoing struggle against transnational criminal organizations. The Department of Defense is proud that our relationship with our Mexican military partners is based on cooperation, mutual support, and shared responsibility. Today, more than ever, U.S. and Mexican defense officials enjoy collaborative relationships, based on trust and confidence.

  49. The US cooperating with Mexico, on joint defense, since 1942.

    Executive Order 9080--Joint Mexican-United States Defense Commission

    Source: The provisions of Executive Order 9080 of Feb. 27, 1942, appear at 7 FR 1607, 3 CFR, 1938-1943 Comp., p. 1102, unless otherwise noted.

    By virtue of the authority vested in me by the Constitution and as President of the United States, and acting jointly and in full accord with His Excellency, the President of the Republic of Mexico, I hereby authorize, on the part of the Government of the United States, the creation of a joint commission to be known as the Joint Mexican-United States Defense Commission.

    The purposes of the Commission shall be to study problems relating to the common defense of the United States and Mexico, to consider broad plans for the defense of Mexico and adjacent areas of the United States, and to propose to the respective governments the cooperative measures which, in its opinion should be adopted.

  50. "Turkey, which still maintains 90 US supplied B61 nuclear gravity bombs at Incirlik Air Base."

    That Turban Head Bomb cartoon character should be modified to sport a B61 on top.

    Maybe we should hope the next Turban Bomber in Afghanistan actually has one.
    Kabul problem solved in the blink of an eye.

    Turkey, Egypt, USA,
    asskiss of Weevils.

  51. Perry as POTUS means listening for 8 more years of the same old recycled Bush 43 lies about the border.

  52. From 25MAR10:

    WASHINGTON:Top U.S. defense officials met with their Mexican counterparts in Mexico City today to strengthen the U.S.-Mexico military partnership in the fight against drug cartels there.

    Defense Secretary Robert M. Gates and chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Navy Adm. Mike Mullen are in Mexico today as part of a U.S. delegation led by Secretary of State Hilary Clinton. U.S. Secretary of Homeland Security Janet Napolitano and Director of National Intelligence Dennis Blair also are part of the delegation.

    The high-level talks are part of the Merida initiative, a partnership promised by President Barack Obama last year to help the region combat drug trafficking and related violence by the cartels. The three-year program provides $1.6 billion to fund drug-fighting initiatives.

    The talks demonstrate the level of commitment the United States has in aiding Mexico in its struggle against the cartels and to impede the drug trade from crossing the border into the United States, Pentagon press secretary Geoff Morrell told reporters at a news conference here today.

    “Sending a delegation of this stature to Mexico is a clear indication of the critical importance both we and the Mexican government … place on law enforcement cooperation, strengthening Mexican institutions and other cooperative efforts to support the government of Mexico’s campaign against organized crimes,” Morrell said.

    Gates and Mullen met with Mexico’s Defense Secretary Guillermo Galvan Galvan and Navy Secretary Mariano Francisco Saynez Mendoza to discuss military-to-military coordination and to develop a comprehensive approach to counternarcotics operations and planning.

    Read more: http://www.defencetalk.com/us-military-support-to-mexico-drug-war-25220/#ixzz1YbSM1Qoc

  53. For those that are still attempting to get a grasp of the English language:

    Transnational = Cross border

  54. A border bandit or raider is a transnational criminal.

    A smuggler is a contrabandista, a transnational criminal, tambien.

    Bankers, they reach for a higher level of cross border raiding.


  55. The Mexican "bailout" attracted criticism in Congress and the press for the central role of the former Co-Chairman of Goldman Sachs, U.S. Treasury Secretary Robert Rubin. Rubin used a Treasury Department account under his personal control to distribute $20 billion to bail out Mexican bonds, of which Goldman was a key holder.[4] In late 1995, "[n]ewly installed President Ernesto Zedillo said he needed the cash to pay off bonds held by Citibank and Goldman Sachs, lest the New World Order come crashing down around the ears of its panicked acolytes."[5] According to Hannibal Travis,[6] Associate Professor of Law at Florida International University College of Law, the "former manager of $5 billion in Mexican investments at Goldman Sachs became U.S. Secretary of the Treasury and lobbied for legislation that forced U.S. taxpayers to contribute in excess of $20 billion to bail out investors in Mexican securities, in a form of 'corporate socialism'".[7]

    as per wiki, a perspective that is close to the truth.

    Transnational bankers profiting from the Peso meltdown and Federally guaranteed US bailouts, back in the 1990's.

  56. The Banks are making a Fortune off the Drug Trade. The Top Fifty Families of Mexico are making a Fortune. They own half the Country.

    Cui Bono

  57. The more things change
    The more they stay the same

    ... the "former manager of $5 billion in Mexican investments at Goldman Sachs became U.S. Secretary of the Treasury and lobbied for legislation that forced U.S. taxpayers to contribute in excess of $20 billion to bail out investors in Mexican securities, in a form of 'corporate socialism'"

    Stay the Course!


  58. UNITED NATIONS -- President Nicolas Sarkozy of France broke sharply on Wednesday with the effort by the Obama administration and some Europeans to quash the effort by the Palestinians for recognition here, instead calling for enhancing their status in the General Assembly to that of an observer state.

  59. From nutter picks nutter department -

    Ron Paul says he'd consider putting Dennis Kucinich in his Cabinet
    By Justin Sink - 09/21/11 12:02 PM ET

    Rep. Ron Paul (R-Texas) says he would consider putting the liberal congressman Dennis Kucinich (D-Ohio) in his Cabinet if he were to win the presidency in 2012.

    Paul said his libertarian political philosophy helps him connect with some on the far left — including Kucinich, who shares Paul’s general anti-war stance.

    Paul joked that if he brought the Ohio congressman aboard in his administration, he might have to create a "Department of Peace."

    "You've got to give credit to people who think," he said.


  60. .

    From the "it takes one to know one department",

    From nutter picks nutter department -


  61. Q's nightmare, living in the sane world of a Palin Administration.


  62. Albatross Obama

    Never seen that phrase before.

    I like it, really like it.


  63. You're correct, boobie, a Palin Administration is nothing but a late night fantasy.

    Kind of scary, until you wake up and smell the coffee.

  64. Savor that cup of Joe, then you'll really know.

    Mrs Palin in the White House, nothing but a snow white dream.
    Smoke, mirrors, but no political substance.

    No political organization and poor DVD sales do not auger well for a Presidential run, let alone a new reality series on the History Channel.

  65. I wouldn't bet on it, Rat. The Marist Poll the other day had her down only 49 - 45 to Obama, and she hasn't even announced yet.

    This, in spite of the fact that the Dems, the Pubs, and the Media have tried their dead-level best to Destroy her for 3 yrs.

    Strange things have happened in elections. Esp, when times are tough.

  66. And, the big news was, she beat Obama among "Independents."

  67. The Same Poll had her down by 26 points in June.

  68. BTW, her DVD doesn't go on sale until Oct 4.

  69. I saw a little fat lawyer win the Governorship of Mo. (running against Kit Bond, of all people,) without spending a cent.

    He was polling, probably, 1% when he left Kansas City, walking to Jefferson City (the Capital.)

    The first Reporter interviewed him on, maybe, the second day of his walk. By the time he got to Jefferson City it was All Over.

  70. Looking at that narco/map and reading Drudge it looks like the Mexican army or police have nailed a couple of the Family of the Knights Templar - creative name for a bunch of thugs.

    Such bring downs do little for the problem though.


  71. Walking Joe Teasdale. They swore him in, and a week later he went back to KC, and spent the next 4 years sitting around his apt. drinking beer.

  72. Best kind of govnor to have, govnor.

    No harm done to anyone.


    Now rat will say, at least he served his term, and didn't quit.


  73. He was such a longshot that I doubt if Kit Bond ever mentioned his name. I'm sure no one "polled" the race in the last month, or so.

    The election results were announced, and there was nothing but stunned silence from the elite/politico crowd. Pure, total shock.

    When people are fed up, they're fed up. They're liable to do anything.

  74. He sure did do that, Bob. He cashed Every Paycheck (most down at the corner liquor store, if memory serves.) :)

  75. The thing about Sarah Palin is, she has the nerve of a "cliff-diver."

    She wanted to make damned good, and sure, that everyone got themselves a good close look at Perry before she came wading in.

    And, they did. And, they're not liking the "cut of his jib" nearly as much as they thought they were going to.

    I think, now, she's waiting on either Christie, or Ryan. If she's convinced one of them are going to get in she'll wait till the last hour of the last day if she has to.

    In fact, I think Utah is the first state deadline for registration. Around Nov. 15. She might even cede Utah to Romney, and Huntsman, and skip that date. The Lady's going to do it "her way." On that, you can make book.

  76. Rat is correct about the border. Did I say that? The border issue is bigger than just the governors of TX AZ and CA. It's bigger than the POTUS and certainly bigger than Palin.

    There will be no fence. Why? Because the puppet masters don't want one.

  77. The border issue is just more campaign fodder, just like Social Security. Come January 2013, no one will be discussing either with any urgency.

  78. Great video Rufus, great.


  79. "African Americans appear to be faring relatively better than they did in the early 1990s. In 1993 the poverty rate for African Americans reached 33.1 percent. Last year it was 27.4 percent.

    It's not entirely clear why African Americans are faring so much better in this recession than in the last..."

    Welcome to the Suburban Depression

    Yeah, those lucky African-Americans

  80. The Ben Bernanke spoke and the stocks go down the 300 points.


  81. The USA is exceptional is it? Exceptionally dysfunctional!

    "Both parties said they were determined to avoid a government shutdown on Oct. 1. But it is unclear how they will resolve their differences in a fight that crystallizes their disagreement over fiscal priorities."


  82. Betcha we're all here on 2 Oct, ash.

    Betcha the condition of the EU will be such that capital flight will be westward in direction, from Paris, London and Brussels to the New York money centers.

    That the remedies to the political differences within the Republic are difficult to foretell, well, there you have it.

    The differences will be remedied, one way or another. With no other prospect on the horizon to displace the US from its position of global leadership.

    There is no other global reserve currency.
    There are no other carrier battle groups

    But US.

  83. What you refer to as dysfunction, ash, is not that, at all.

    No the system of political checks and balances is working as designed.

    If FEMA is not funded, that's not dysfunction, it's a function of Federal financial prioritization, originating from the House of Representatives, as designed..

  84. Rat-

    I'd appreciate any thoughts you might have regarding US citizens getting direct Medicare paid/reimbursed health care in Mexico.

    A year or so after the 2008 election I was speaking to a guy who said he was behind a movement to do so. Offices in D.C., etc. Said he represented quite a large contingent of retirees in Mexico.

    Guy said that he gotten the support of Rep McDermott here in the Seattle area. But that Jim had told them that it was not something he could do prior to the election - wouldn't look good - but said he'd get it in the health care bill they were figuring to pass. Or tagged onto some other bill.

    The guy I was talking to wasn't a local and he actually believed McDermottt was going to sneak it in the back door. He was so positive about it I found myself wondering...

    Now it's maybe 2 years later and I haven't heard a whisper about extending Medicare reimbursement to expats in Mexico.

    There were some things that came up in our conversation that seemed like insurmountable objections to me But the guy sort of brushed them off.

    One of the things I brought up was, according to way I figured it, the cost of health care, the cash cost of actual good doctoring and meds was such that even our pissy Medicare coverage would be the equivalent of top drawer gold plated coverage down there. Better even than the extra special coverage the Mexican pols get.

    My question to him was wouldn't that upset a delicately balanced economic apple cart? And pissing order?

    As I said, he brushed that consideration off. Others as well. And repeated that the cross border coverage was a done deal. "They" were just waiting for the right time to slip it in.

    I didn't know the guy, friend of a friend of a friend sorta deal. But he was represented as a succesful professional (maybe even an MD, can't remember for sure) well off, connected as a lobbyist and, as I mentioned, represented a slug of very involved and self interested retirees. (He told me the name of his group; can't for the life of me remember it.)

    I've kinda sniffed around lately and couldn't come up with any news.

    Have you heard anything? It seems like something you'd know about/be interested in.

    Thinking about it now I'm wondering if the guy was "played" by McDermott and the Obama campaign (the guy was a "believer") for his and his fellow retirees campaign support...


  85. PETA porn site ready to launch.

    Animal lovers of the world, unite.


    Never introduce predators. Good ole PETA.


  86. 23APR2010

    Healthcare and foreign policy experts met Wednesday at the Institute of the Americas to discuss the growing role the Mexican healthcare system is playing in serving the long-term care needs of Americans.

    A soon-to-be-released report from the National City, CA-based International Community Foundation, a charity, finds a growing need for long-term care and assisted living facilities that serve Americans in Mexico. There are plenty of opportunities for active retirement in Mexico, but the country is not a very good spot to age in place, NCICF president Richard Kiy noted at the meeting, according to the San Diego Union Tribune. Healthcare costs in Mexico are a fraction of the cost of U.S. healthcare, but standards and certification are still an issue.

    One major topic of discussion was the possibility of reimbursing Mexican facilities through the Medicare system, reports the San Diego Union Tribune. For the U.S. to even consider that step, Mexican facilities would have to be certified at the same standard as American facilities. Mexico's president, Felipe Calderón, is expected to broach the subject when he meets with President Obama next month, but experts at Wednesday's meeting did not foresee any immediate changes to the system, according to the Union Tribune.

  87. Rat,

    Wow! That was quick. Thanks. Wonder if that Kly guy was who I was talking to?

    And the date on the story, April of 2010, is in line with what I remember.

    But nothing since then...

    What's your take on the chances anything like what was being talked about will actually come to fruition?


  88. Not soon, I'd guess.

    The amount of animosity towards Mexico would overcome any positive argument.

  89. Democrats argued that the $3.65 billion for FEMA contained in the Republican bill was insufficient.

    House Republicans also included budget offsets in their bill to pay for the FEMA funds. Those cuts to an Energy Department loan program to boost green technology have been decried by Democrats.

    Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) had threatened to strike the offset provision and attach a disaster aid package totaling $6.9 billion, almost double the total contained in the House Republican bill.

  90. That judge finally signed the papers Wednesday morning, clearing the way for the men's freedom and a presumably more receptive welcome for Ahmadinejad in New York.

    Bauer and Fattal both traveled directly from the prison to Tehran's airport, where the Omani plane was standing by to fly them out. Present at their release were the Swiss ambassador -- the Swiss embassy handles US affairs in Iran -- and an Omani delegation.


    Bauer, a freelance journalist, and Shourd, an English teacher, had been living in Damascus, Syria, when Fattal, an environmental and global health advocate, came to visit them. All three are graduates of the University of California at Berkeley.

  91. Thank God. We finally got one a'building.

    The countdown to commissioning can officially begin for Abengoa Bioenergy’s first commercial-scale cellulosic ethanol plant. On Sept. 20, the company announced it has received the air permit for the 23 MMgy multi-feedstock facility to be built in southwest Kansas near Hugoton, and said construction activities at the site are already underway. The plant is expected to be complete in about two years, which is also when the first full-scale harvest will be expected from 20,000 acres of switchgrass to be established through a USDA Biomass Crop Assistance Program project that was approved in late July.

    Abengoa has been working toward commercializing its cellulosic ethanol production process for a decade and, while the outcome has been a long time coming, the company’s efforts have been rewarded with a flurry of positive outcomes throughout the summer—first signing feedstock supply agreements with area farmers for corn stover and wheat straw, then receiving BCAP project area approval for switchgrass, and finally receiving an offer from the U.S. DOE on its $133.9 million loan guarantee application. The DOE’s conditional commitment is expected to be finalized by Sept. 30.

    Abengoa CEO Manuel Sanchez said the completion of this first cellulosic project will serve as a stepping stone toward the expansion of cellulosic capabilities at all of the company’s production facilities. “The construction of this ‘first of a kind’ commercial-scale biorefinery facility will us to utilize our proprietary technology that has been developed and proven over the last 10 years to produce renewable liquid fuel from Earth’s most abundant organic feedstock source - plant fiber,” he said.

    A True Commercial-Scale, Enzymatic Cellulosic Ethanol Plant Starts Construction.

  92. It's a Ballsey call by Abengoa; there will be no government tax credit for cellulosic ethanol producers when this plant comes online. The Cellulosic Producers Tax Credit expires in Dec, 2012.

    And, they're not just some VC playing with someone else's money. They're a real company that could get hurt, badly, if this thing doesn't work.

  93. Some Democrats, meanwhile, have accused the central bank of being too cautious. Representative Barney Frank of Massachusetts, the ranking Democrat on the House Financial Services Committee, has proposed legislation that would remove the presidents of regional Federal Reserve banks from their seats on the policy-making committee.

    The 12 presidents of regional banks, who are elected in part by local businesses, now fill five seats on the committee on a rotating basis. The rest of the members of the policy-making committee are governors of the Federal Reserve board.

    The regional bank presidents tend to be more concerned about inflation and less concerned about unemployment. Mr. Frank has described their participation as “undemocratic” and said it was impeding the Fed’s ability to pursue all the measures he considered necessary to support an economic recovery.

  94. The Federal Reserve took a dramatic step Wednesday to help revive the economy, resuming its unconventional efforts at stimulating growth nearly a year after embarking on an initiative that ultimately failed to deliver a healthy recovery.

    The Fed’s latest move aims to lower interest rates on mortgages and other long-term loans without making another major infusion of money into the economy — and brushes aside a crescendo of criticism from Republicans who have been making the Fed a campaign issue.

    The announcement that the Fed would buy $400 billion in long-term Treasury bonds immediately achieved its intended effect, pushing rates on these securities and other investments to their lowest level in decades.

  95. Meanwhile, at the General Assembly, French President Nicolas Sarkozy said leaders have “a moral and political obligation” to help resolve the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. He devoted his entire address to the issue, saying that “60 years without moving one inch forward — doesn’t it seem like time to do something new?”

    Sarkozy warned that a Security Council rejection of a Palestinian state could provoke violence in the Middle East. Instead, he said, the General Assembly should grant “observer status” to the Palestinians, a step that a majority of the body appears to support, and set a one-year timeline for negotiations to achieve a peace agreement.

    Obama has not endorsed that “intermediate step,” as Sarkozy characterized it. Obama was meeting with both Sarkozy and Abbas later Wednesday.

  96. The potential of a government shutdown at the end of the month loomed slightly larger Wednesday after a critical measure to fund the government through mid-November was defeated in the House Wednesday evening.

    GOP leaders were unable to overcome objections from Democrats who believed the bill did not do enough for disaster victims and from conservative Republicans who wanted to use the bill to cut spending more deeply.

    The vote was a significant defeat for House Speaker John A. Boehner (R-Ohio) and other GOP leaders, who had been confident they could muscle the bill over to the Senate despite protests from both sides of the aisle.

  97. Everybody's been yapping about "Yergin," and his new book "The Quest."

    This is a nice little analysis of where the author, Inman, thinks Yergin goes wrong.

    Analysis of Yergin's comments on "peak oil."

  98. Does Autism Tend Toward Atheism?

    If autistics tend toward rationalism and distrust of metaphor the answer would seem to be yes as the study mildly suggests. Because religious language moves beyond rationalism which breaks down and embraces metaphor.


  99. If the Palestinian resolution does not get at least nine votes on the 15-member Security Council, the motion would fail and no veto would be necessary.

    A General Assembly vote would only require a simple majority and no veto is possible. Israel fears that even a super-observer status would give the Palestinians the right to join the International Criminal Court and make complaints about Israel.

    The proposal outline by Sarkozy also called on the Palestinians not to go to the court while talks are being held.

  100. The powerful typhoon Roke that hit Japan on Wednesday has been making its way across the country, bringing floods, damage and deaths.


    More than 200 domestic flights were also cancelled, while at least 200,000 households in central Japan were without electricity late on Wednesday, according to the AP news agency.


    One of the main worries was that the heavy rain could force radioactive water from the crippled nuclear plant into the sea.

  101. ELEANOR HALL: At the United Nations today, the US president met both the Israeli and the Palestinian leaders in an effort to head off the diplomatic furore over the Palestinian bid for statehood at the UN. In an address to the General Assembly, Barack Obama made it clear he does not see peace between Israelis and Palestinians being achieved through a UN resolution and he reiterated that the US would veto any bid for statehood in the Security Council.


    LISA MILLAR: The meeting with Mahmoud Abbas was a late addition to the president's full schedule. There were no TV cameras or comments to the media, just still photographers allowed in the room for a short time.


    BARACK OBAMA: The bonds between the United States and Israel are unbreakable and the United States' commitment to Israel's security is unbreakable. Indeed I think it's fair to say that today our security cooperation is stronger than it has ever been.

    BENJAMIN NETANYAHU: I want to thank you Mr president for standing with Israel and supporting peace through direct negotiations. We both agreed that this was the only way to achieve peace.


    LISA MILLAR: But the meeting with Mahmoud Abbas was just as crucial as the US tries to encourage the Palestinians to drop their bid for full statehood through the UN Security Council. The official application is set to be presented on Friday in New York, but the Palestinians have promised to give the Security Council time to study it.

  102. Somewhat incongruously, Mr. Sarkozy visited Mr. Obama’s hotel on Wednesday afternoon for a previously scheduled meeting with the president, and was effusive, in front of the cameras before the meeting, in his praise for Mr. Obama. Mr. Obama, for his part, refused to engage with reporters assembled for the photo op.


    Another reporter asked Mr. Obama if he agreed with the French position on Palestine. Mr. Obama smiled and replied, “Bonjour.”

    A third reporter queried if that response constituted a “no comment.” The president’s response: “No comment.”

  103. Got anything for the Thursday morning blues?


  104. In defense of the ACLU and the law profession in general, there was an interesting case resolved in Boise yesterday. At one of these private for profit prisons the conditions had become so bad in so many ways that the ACLU was able to sue the company on behave of the entire prison population. While it didn't go to trial it was resolved basically in the favor of the prisoners.

    One should be safe in prison to be able to serve out one's sentence and not be abused and get out alive, or the jailor becomes as guilty as the jailed.


  105. I remember that old priest convicted of abuse of the boys and girls. He got some large sentence, but he was dead within two months, and was unable to serve his time. Can't recall whether that was a private or state prison.


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