Another anon said…The Koran has no command to kill infants or toddlers at all. That's progress, I suppose.Sat Sep 10, 12:14:00 PM EDTOh really. How’s about Bukhari (52:256)? It took all of four (4) minutes to find this piece of Koranic “literature” which permits the killing of women and children. This site could be greatly polished if such queer, quirky duplicity were scrubbed.And whence all the sock puppets?Furthermore, one must consider how the pervs of 9/11 attained martyrdom and a place in “Paradise” since so many women and children died at their hands that day. In particular I think of those terrified female flight attendants who strangled on their own blood following the clean stroke of the razor’s edge across their soft throats. It was as written by Chris Hitchens on 9/12, "as if Charles Manson had been made God for a day". You would associate yourself with this, my dear?In an effort to give dignity to yourself and your way of life that your religion claims is repugnant (despite its recruitment of male pedophiles) you lump all moral practices into one insipid and utterly indigestible stew. Islam’s hateful toxicity is like nothing else ever found on this planet. And just for the record, have you a single pre-historic citation that is corroborated by archaeological evidence? If I may make so bold, much of the Tanakh is prehistoric, despite offering the most compelling blueprint for ethical monotheism.Do try completing this marvelous essay on Chris Hitchens: There's just one HitchNow, DR, you know very well that, just as you NEVER use profanity, Ole Lonesome Bob, would never write “Italian shit” or “JEWISH SHIT” or "nigger" or call a woman a “cunt” or “whore”, in an alcoholic tizzy. Yep, Ole Lonesome Bob can dish out the trash all right. Strange though, his sniveling of a few days ago, where he claims to have told his daughter of "fucking". Why hasn't Bob ever told his wife of the incident? Hmm... And why on earth would bob reveal something so detestable to his traumatized daughter - the one he claims to love so much that he would give her rapist safe passage? Indeed, bob does think outside the box.
.It's always interesting to see the spiritual growth some gain through honoring shabbat.It lifts the spirit..
.This site could be greatly polished if such queer, quirky duplicity were scrubbed.This must be directed at you Deuce. Merely, a little constructive criticism from someone still high from the spiritual growth experianced over the past couple days..
.“Hypocrisy and distortion are passing currents under the name of religion”Mahatma Ghandi.
.This site could be greatly polished if such queer, quirky duplicity were scrubbed.I've noticed that the term queer has found it's way into a number of your posts lately. It might be advisable to be a little more circumspect in its use.The predispositions of guys who refer to other guys as "Sweetie" and "Pooh" are often questioned regardless.Added to that, when you brag about your intimate knowledge of the anatomy,dimensions,geometry, and flexibility of the anus it moves the needle even more. Just saying.Constructive criticism from a friend..
Yup, the Sabbath is over and our friend Allen the Alien is back, fresh from a rendezvous with __ god __!!!!Allen it's sad, you are all screwed up.I used to really like you, too. I remember you saying "thanks for standing up for the Jews Bob" and other nice things. Have I made mistakes? Sure. But I have never done the unspeakable nor ever wavered in my support for Israel.And you are the first Jew that I sincerely loath, though I am trying to keep that down, and I can only think you have had a stroke or something.You are all fucked up, Allen.risky
Being newly married I'd think he'd have some other better things to be doing than hanging around here all day.risky
I remember seeing Bill over in Missoula, Montana when we went to hear him speak, on a lark.He is an impressive looking guy, but, oh, my, three or four times he said, and corrected himself, "when you elect Hillary, I will...""I mean Hilary will...."It was quite humorous, and I got an inner chuckle from the naive college student sitting in front of us, who kept saying to her girlfriend "all I want is peace", a nice thought to be sure......If you haven't been to Missoula, the area around the campus with the tree lined streets is perfectly described in Hemingway's "For Whom The Bell Tolls"risky
Clark Fork, Missoula, Montana!!Will be flowing long after all these arguments here are over.risky
And the Lord God created four rivers running from the springs of Paradise....:)risky
And The Lord God threw in the Jeffersonjust for the hell of it.risky
And The Lord God Wawaniha went about masturbating and his humping created the mountains and his flow the rivers, and this is a creation myth, much like the Jewish. When he was satisfied he rested.And that is why we too need some rest.risky
And then of course there is the Beaverhead and the Bighole and the stars and no synagogue nor church nor mosque for a thousand miles.risky
And that is why it is called Paradiserisky
And then of course there is theBeaverhead and the Bighole and the stars and no synagogue nor church nor mosque for a thousand miles.Just a bunch of derelict farms with renegade Mormons and their twenty wives, all living on Assistance. Paradise indeed.
:)You are talking Utah.risky
If you haven't been to Missoula, the area around the campus with the tree lined streets is perfectly described in Hemingway's "For Whom The Bell Tolls"I have been Miss Maps from an early age, before I was the Elephant Bar slut. Back in 1976 my father was taking us to Glacier National Park, and he was fixing to drive through the weird and wonderful lost corner of America that is the area around Libby and Kalispell, etc, but I told him he could shave a hunnert miles off the trip if he took I-90. It still had a traffic light in Wallace and took a 90 degree right turn up the hill when it reached Lake Coeur d' Alane back in those days, and we went over the hill and dropped down almost to Missoula (we could have shaved another forty miles off the trip if we took the St. Regis exit but I digress). Anyway, we got off the freeway and drove along the east side of Flathead Lake, and that was as far as I ever went on I-90 until 2009, when I did my first trip to Yellowstone, and so 2009 was the first time I saw Missoula, and it is a slice of heaven on earth, Bob.
I like you, anonBest of all he loved the fallthe leaves yellow on cottonwoodsleaves floating on trout streamsand above the hillsthe high blue windless skies…Now he will be a part of them forever.Hem's eulogy for a guy that died.I love to fish, anon.risky
Hem's eulogy for a guy that died.I love to fish, anon.He remembered the time he had hooked one of a pair of marlin. The male fish always let the female fish feed first and the hooked fish, the female, made a wild, panic-stricken, despairing fight that soon exhausted her, and all the time the male had stayed with her, crossing the line and circling with her on the surface. He had stayed so close that the old man was afraid he would cut the line with his tail which was sharp as a scythe and almost of that size and shape. When the old man had gaffed her and clubbed her, holding the rapier bill with its sandpaper edge and dubbing her across the top of her head until her colour turned to a colour almost like the backing of mirrors, and then, with the boy’s aid, hoisted her aboard, the male fish had stayed by the side of the boat. Then, while the old man was clearing the lines and preparing the harpoon, the male fish jumped high into the air beside the boat to see where the female was and then went down deep, his lavender wings, that were his pectoral fins, spread wide and all his wide lavender stripes showing. He was beautiful, the old man remembered, and he had stayed.
:)Never done that but am good with a fly rod.:))risky
26. KTWO: EU leaders have shown they will keep to the same course until the end. If the ECB Board cannot be intimidated into printing money and soaking up the debts then the ECB board will be replaced with people who will. The United States will follow the same course at the Federal Reserve. Let a thousand QEs bloom.Reality is a stubborn thing. See, money is really just a replacement for barter. It's much more efficient for a pig farmer who needs shoes to trade some bacon to a shoemaker who needs supper if they handle the transaction with little pieces of paper. That way the pig farmer doesn't have to time the output of his smokehouse with the output of the shoe factory. But somewhere along the way, some people got the silly idea in their head that if they just print more of these fancy markers we use in lieu of barter, that somehow this alone will cause more pork bellies and shoes to be produced, and also cause more people to demand pork bellies and shoes. Sometimes kids nail a bunch of planks to their Radio Flyer wagon and think it's an airplane, too.
I hesitated to put up a post today, but Clinton's speech said everything that the scripted and emotionally arid Obama could not. Too much will be said today. We will all be begging for mercy by lunchtime. Simplicity, subtlety and pithiness all casualities of the data ediposity and echo chamber of the modern media.Peace and quiet, peace and quiet.
short lived peace...How did we devolve to this?KABUL, Afghanistan — Nearly 80 American soldiers were wounded and two Afghan civilians were killed in a Taliban truck bombing targeting an American base in eastern Afghanistan, NATO said Sunday, a stark reminder that the war in Afghanistan still rages 10 years after the Sept. 11 terror attacks against the United States.The blast, which occurred late Saturday, shaved the facades from shops outside the Combat Outpost Sayed Abad in Wardak province and broke windows in government offices nearby, said Roshana Wardak, a former parliamentarian who runs a clinic in the nearby town of the same name. The Taliban claimed responsibility for the attack.Eight wounded civilians were brought to Wardak's clinic, two of them with wounds serious enough that they were sent to Kabul. She said one 3-year-old girl died of her wounds on the way to the clinic.The attack was carried out by a Taliban suicide bomber who detonated a large bomb inside a truck carrying firewood, NATO said. It was unclear how many foreign and Afghan soldiers were serving on the base.
While the meaning of "queer" might transfix the curiosity of some, it is too bad that the bold faced lie concerning Muslim respect for women and children went unchallenged except by me. This is hardly the behavior one would expect from such a tough bunch of cowpokes. A vestige of religion is the idea of black and white. Often those who talk most of shades of gray are completely blind. For instance, it is possible to detest two things simultaneously and well - say, Ahhhh ... Allen and ...the lie of the first anonymous on this thread. Yes, Yes, the beauty and wonder of Shabbat. Although it is the most sacred of time we, Jews, decided long ago to defend ourselves even at the risk of its violation. That is why we can kill a snake and sing a prayer without missing a beat.Since I began this thread addressing the dead of 9/11, may I be the first to say "Rest in Peace".
From Allens' linkIn the immediate wake of 9/11, Hitchens published a series of unforgettable essays, the best of which were reprinted in his 2004 collection Love, Poverty, and War. These short pieces, I am convinced, will go down as classics of American journalism. Like H.L. Mencken at the Scopes monkey trial or Norman Mailer at the Republican and Democratic conventions of 1968, Hitchens caught the turbulence of the moment in vividly atmospheric prose. More important, he condemned the perpetrators in language that was consonant with the nature of the offence. While Noam Chomsky and others construed the attacks as a more or less straightforward response to US foreign policy, Hitchens, seasoned by the Rushdie affair, called the hijackers "nihilists . . . at war with culture as a whole". One of his earliest ripostes to the Chomsky position has stuck in my mind. Noting that September 11 happened to mark the anniversary of the 1973 military coup in Chile -- a CIA-backed enormity that gave democratic Chileans every right to resent the US government -- Hitchens wrote: "I don't know any Chilean participant in this great historical struggle who would not rather have died -- you'll have to excuse the expression -- than commit an outrage against humanity that was even remotely comparable to the atrocities in New York, Washington and Pennsylvania."What a supremely telling way to define the uniqueness of the 9/11 act. All of Hitchens's virtues as a writer were on display in that sentence. For starters, it let you know exactly where he stood. (It helped, greatly, that he knew exactly where he stood.) To speak of the attacks as an "outrage against humanity" was to use elementary moral language that few writers were ready to use at the time and that some writers are embarrassed to use still. Then you have the phrase "who would not rather have died", a chillingly compact way of evoking the universal, or apparently universal, norms of humanity that the jihadists had so monstrously violated. Behind the language lies Hitchens's experience as a campaigner and on-the-ground journalist: he knows Chilean dissidents personally and the date of Salvador Allende's death is fixed in his head. Above everything else, you have his uncanny skills as an off-the-cuff rhetorician: he can seize the clinching example when it's needed, and throw it down like an unanswerable card.It was "as if Charles Manson had been made God for a day", Hitchens wrote, just a day after the attacks. Of course one already knew, in one's gut, that the hijackers were no more elevated than that. The evidence of it was ample: the leaping office workers, the slashed throats of the hostesses. But Hitchens's voice cut through the smog; he found words that conformed to the awful evidence in front of your eyes. "By their deeds," he wrote, "shall we know them." When he called the hijackers "theocratic fascists", the phrase caught on. So did his characterisation of bin Ladenism as a "cult of death". He was in the vanguard of the commentariat, saying things no other writer had yet had the guts to say.
all the various forms of zealotry, beyond a certain point of madness, begin to resemble one another, no matter what ideology they nominally embody. -Hitchens
Pathological is no doubt the key word there. Indeed, Hitchens proceeds to call Kim Jong-il's regime a "death cult". Making the same point in the other direction, he detects an early whiff of totalitarianism in the Ten Commandments: the injunction against coveting one's neighbour's property, he says, "is the first but not the last introduction in the Bible of the totalitarian concept of thought crime". -Hitchens
Damn Allen, did you read this?Hitchens continues:...When Hitchens puts the boot into the Ten Commandments, he doesn't just do it for fun, although he undoubtedly has fun doing it. His object is serious and affirmative: he wants to demonstrate that a rational humanist, far from having no values, can in fact propose a far more moral set of universal commandments than the ten dealt to Moses. Before sketching out his new commandments, though, Hitchens does a cripplingly thorough job of dismantling the old ones. "They show every symptom," he says, "of having been man-made and improvised under pressure. They are addressed to a nomadic tribe whose main economy is primitive agriculture and whose wealth is sometimes counted in people as well as animals."
Yes, Yes, the beauty and wonder of Shabbat. Although it is the most sacred of time we, Jews, decided long ago to defend ourselves even at the risk of its violation.The Sabbath tradition did not exist until the Exile, when the Jews picked up ideas from Babylon of the Shabbattu, the "full moon" which was the 15th day of the lunar cycle. They had four "evil days" on the seventh, fourteenth, twenty-first and twenty-eighth day of the month when the Babylonians did certain types of fasting. The captives reversed the meaning of these evil days and made them their own holy days. This new tradition was read back into the Torah when it was redacted from various existing documents. I've made a study of this topic because my mother and brother are Seventh-Day Adventists who observe the Sabbath from sundown on Friday to sundown on Saturday, and observe various kosher food laws.
Hitchens: Railing against the death cults, Hitchens has stood unapologetically for life. If he hasn't laughed superstition out of existence yet, that isn't for lack of trying. It would be a sad day for literature if his campaign were to end prematurely. But even if it does, we already know that his laughter and his derision will endure. Hitchens
Clinton was good there, but "the Greatest of Public Speaker of All Time"...? Really?
Agriculture is hard work. Immediately upon turning to agriculture people realized that they had to take a day off every now, and then. It just made sense to "formalize" it, regardless of the justification, and all take off at the same time. Much more efficient that way.Not a bad way for a Shaman to curry favor: "You Must take off every seventh day." Okey dokey boss. It's a sacrifice, but we do gotta keep them Gods happy, don't we.
Deuce,Re: CommandmentsYes, I read that and just about everything else Hitchens has written. Whether I agree with everything he says, does and writes is umimportant to an appreciation of a great mind at work. In a thousand years, I will be forgotten (if ever remembered) and Hitchen may still be a refreshing summer storm; but as they have for over 3000 years, the X will continue to form the foundation from which all morality must minimumly spring. More importantly, Hitchens might agree with me that spirituality is not identical to religion and is, indeed, often its opposite.
Also, a good way to keep them lazy people working six days, picking the King's cotton, and not three or four. "Hey, watt're you doing in the sack? It ain't Sunday, yet?"Unlike, Hitchens, I see nothing "Totalitarian" in the 10 Commandments. I see a common sense set of rules for the organizing of a smooth-functioning society. If you're fighting over one anothers' wives, you ain't getting much cotton picked. (The King needs that cotton picked; cocaine is expensive - as are "Queens.")
Moses then led his people towards the Levant, where the genocide of the existing residents commenced.The migrants murdering the men, women and children who they found on the land.It was alright though and is considered a thoroughly righteous genocide by the practitioners of Judaism.Funny how time warps perception and the perspectives of morality.Hitchens, a true believer in the Equivalency Standard.
FirstAmerican casulaties of the Pearl Harbor attackUnited States Army.Pearl Harbor.Camp MalakoleF. Battery 251 Coast Artillery (AA)Sgt. Henry C. Blackwell Cpl. Clyde C. BrownSgt. Warren D. Rasmussen* Note **It is said that the above had gone on pass and rented a couple of pipercubs at the John Rodgers airport. They were licensed pilots and wouldpractice fying over the water. They were out over the water just as the Japanese attacked. They were shot down. These three men were the firstAmerican casulaties of the Pearl Harbor attack. They were stationed at Camp Malakole, F. Battery, US Army.
The passengers that brought down the fourth suicide bomb, the young, female F16 Pilot that took off with every intention of ramming Flight 93, The ones that stayed behind to help others escape the burning buildings, the Firefighters that Ran toward sudden death;These are the things that we should be celebrating, today. A List should be read - a list of all the terrorists, starting with Bin Laden, that we have killed, to date, in retribution for this act, and a list of the ones that we intend to kill as quickly as we can find them.
hamma knocka said...Clinton was good there, but "the Greatest of Public Speaker of All Time"...? Really?The comment was not mine, I was quoting it because it amused me, but the speech was magnificent compared to that served up by Obama and his dueling teleprompters.
...amazing how engrained stupidity had become, even on 9/11...just saw clip of President G.W. Bush first speaking of the attacks in NYC before an audience of kids. Within two sentences it is first called "a tragedy" and then "an act of terrorism". Within three days the same man would be promising both guns and latte in our "War Against Terrorism". How did that work out - Oh, that's right, today about 80 US troops were wounded by a truck bomb in Kabul. Hopefully our pathology expert, DR, will soon arrive to set it all right.
No, rufus, we should list all of the noncombatants that have been killed as a result of that border raid, ten years ago.I realize that to list the hundred of thousands, or so, names of the Iraqi and Afghans that "got in the line of fire" would take some time to compile.It would, though, show some of the real human costs of religious hubris.
September 11th Interview: Major Heather Penney, Fighter Pilot"Video Playlist" on the RightPA Cat Thanks to Gerard at American Digest for the link to this video interview with a fighter pilot:“Major Heather Penney recounts the drama in the skies after District of Columbia Air National Guard pilots scrambled to intercept incoming hostile planes. She describes why F-16’s initially took off from Andrews Air Force Base unarmed – and what she was prepared to do to bring down a plane piloted by terrorists. And she recounts how later that day she helped escort President Bush and Air Force One back to Andrews Air Force Base.”
The First question at the water cooler on Monday morning is "Who Won?"Not, how well did the team play, but, "Who Won?"Followed by, "What was the SCORE?"Somewhere, much later in the conversation, might come the question "anybody get hurt?"
People care about the Score. They don't give a whit about "Iraqi" deaths, and injuries.
"A List should be read - a list of all the terrorists, starting with Bin Laden, that we have killed, to date, in retribution for this act, and a list of the ones that we intend to kill as quickly as we can find them.Sun Sep 11, 09:50:00 AM EDT"Semper Filink
A few more US troops, killed in the effort to secure the poppy fields of Afghanistan.A real shame, to be sure.Those fields, though, part of a sixty year project for the US Army and the Corps of Engineers.The Corps built the dam that stores the irrigation water, and the canals and ditches that deliver it, to the poppies.The dam, ditches and heroin, little to nothing to do with Islam.More connected to the means and methods of the Russell Company than Mohammed.
We need to publish the Score. When we've run it up high enough, people will feel satisfied (avenged,) and we can shut that operation down, and get back to business. We have a country to run, and the last I looked, we weren't doing such a hot job of it.
We are allied with the two Nation States that sponsored the raid upon NYCity and DC.No one is going to target the Princes of Saudi Arabia. While we were joined at the hip, with the General-President of Pakistan, for the tenure of our first 21st century "War President".Whether or not we should be allied, with the Saudis and Pakis, well, we are, regardless.
If you just want the individuals, well then, they are nothing but criminals if they have no State.Criminals we cannot even try in Court. They'd never be proven guilty, by the Standards our system demands.Instead we went to war, against States that were not even involved in the raid, wasting billions of dollars and thousands of lives, in the propaganda effort to "get 'em"Semper Fi, you betcha.
Dog Won't Leave Fallen Navy SEAL's Side
In an exclusive interview, Wakil Ahmad Muttawakil, Taliban's last foreign minister, tells Al-Jazeera that the Taliban government, which then controlled Afghanistan, made several proposals to the United States to present the al-Qaeda leader for trial for his involvement in plots targeting U.S. facilities during the 1990s."Even before the (9/11) attacks, our Islamic Emirate had tried -- through various proposals -- to resolve the Osama issue. One such proposal was to set up a three-nation court, or something under the supervision of the Organization of the Islamic Conference (OIC)," Muttawakil says."But the U.S. showed no interest in it. They kept demanding we hand him over, but we had not relations with the U.S., no agreement of any sort. They did not recognize our government."There was no independent confirmation of Muttawakil's claims.
Which makes some sense. The US did not want Osama, when he was in Sudan, either.There was no legal case that would have gained a conviction.Or so we've been told, before.
Country Ass, Fucked Up Augusta
The lesson of 911:A genuine moderate cannot be a genuine Muslim, and a Muslim who respects infidels is disobeying Allah. A recurring theme of Islam’s sacred texts is that Muslims are superior to infidels, who are to be treated not with respect but disdain. Islam, a religion, where 50 year old men marry nine year old girls. Rape victims being stoned. Homosexuals being kicked alive into fire pits. Clitorectomies galore. Cutting the throats of daughters for being too 'Western'. Rampant inbreeding. And let's not forget the cutting off of hands and feet....You must surely see the stupidity of the West attempting to accommodate a religion whose god desires the conquest of Western civilization, even if the god’s followers were to eschew violence and achieve their victory demographically. Call me a racist and a xenophobe if you must but the only way the West can rid itself of Islam is to rid itself of Muslims; pretending that Muslims can be devout and, at the same time, offer no threat to our way of life is dangerous wishful thinking.
desert rat said...No, rufus, we should list all of the noncombatants that have been killed as a result of that border raid, ten years ago.I realize that to list the hundred of thousands, or so, names of the Iraqi and Afghans that "got in the line of fire" would take some time to compile."border raid"....says it all...To those who lost their loved ones 10 years ago please be comforted by Pres Clinton's words. Not that words will comfort you. But hundreds of millions of Americans will not forget. I will not forgive. The attacks on America by the Islamic world was not it's 1st, nor will it be it's last.America has been at war with Islam since Islam declared war on America in 1783.It was Islam that helped created the American Empire that it now despises. Without the true piracy of the moslems of North Africa the Colonies would never had been forged into a United States. They would never had needed to create the Armed Forces.Today, 10 years after 911, America remembers.Not the way I had hoped of course, but it partially remembers.Beliefs do not bind America, but shared values do.May the few in America (and this bar) that do not share that belief somehow have the blinders removed from their eyes.
"There was no independent confirmation of Muttawakil's claims."---After the Attacks, we tried to deal, the Taliban refused our offer to not go to war in exchange for the bastard.
.We need to publish the Score. When we've run it up high enough, people will feel satisfied (avenged,) and we can shut that operation down, and get back to business.I tend to disagree.For the last ten years there has been no pain for Americans in general only for those who lost loved ones (more than double the loss on 9/11) and had them injured (multiple times the number lost on 9/11).What has it cost the others? Zip.Oh, we can say it cost $ trillions but those are just blank checks no one is concerned about, not when they are worrying about holding onto their job. They don't have to worry about their kids getting drafted. And we got OBL, so who really cares about the others.9/11 was a tragedy. Today it has morphed into a news spectacular. There were few if any memorial ceremonies for the tenth anniversary of Pearl Harbor.Back in the day..
Well, doug, we emanded the same terms that the Taliban had already turned down.They wanted a to hand him to a third party, never to US.We could not try him in our Courts and gain a conviction, same would apply to the third party Courts.They would not give him up, to US.Believing he'd have gone to Gitmo, where there'd never be a public trial.Which is what's happened to Osama's henchmen that have been turned over to US, by their Muslim brethren.
Prior to 11SEP01 we, as a Nation, would not have countenanced holding hundreds of suspected criminals, without trial, indefinitely in a military jail.
Their fallback position was always the "Public Trial".Which is just one of the reasons Osama was not arrested.
Yeah,We executed German Spies quick like.Big Savings over Gitmo.
Why, nonsense. How many totally innocent Japanese families did we intern durning WWII?How many tears did we shed for the citizens of Dresden, or of any of the French cities we bombed into oblivion?Sometimes it just has to come down to your tribe vs theirs.
I'd call that a Fucked Up Fallback Position.Instead, he got a slug between the eyes.
LeMay was our all time civilian killer.
Prior to 11SEP01 we, as a Nation, would not have countenanced holding hundreds of suspected criminals, without trial, indefinitely in a military jail.---I haven't slept a wink since.Beat off a few times, tho.
It is extremely difficult that anyone with as high an IQ and with as much experience in life as Hitchens can still claim to be an athiest. The real argument is about only in what form(s) the magical, metaphysical, spiritual actually exist and how they can legitimately be described by physics. I don't believe that there is an honest bone in Hitchens' body. IMO, the real question is why he is lying?HL
You betcha, rufus, wars against Nations, do result in civilian collateral damage,Often those civilians were not collateral damage, but the primary target of the bombing attacks. This true of the Germans and British, without argument.The Iraq War had nothing to do with the raid of 11SEP01, except as a rah rah rally point for the public.Saddam was not involved in the raid. None of the losses there in Iraq can be laid on aQ, or Islam.There was no aQ Iraq before there were US troops, in Iraq.There were no Libyans fighting US in Iraq, before the US was in Iraq.The Federals misled the US public, with knowledge and forethought. There were reasons to take down Saddam, but Islam and 11SEP01 and the "War on Terror" had nothing to do with them.
I kind of doubt that Hitchens, deep down in his soul, is an athiest. Very few of us are.Most of us that say we hate "religion" are just saying we hate "preachers," and those that would use "the word of God" to cause wars, and unquantifiable suffering.
As to those Japanese from CA, during WWII, the US did put them in camps.Back in the day. During a "real" war.Not today, though.Times, standards and mores have changed.And, rufus, Japan is definitely a Nation State, with which we were at war, after they attacked US.What Nation State attacked US on 11SEP01?War needs Nation States.Otherwise the perpetrators are just common criminals.And the US citizens of Japanese descent proved those prejudiced fears of the government to be misplaced.A Lesson Learned.Whether it has any bearing upon tomorrow's challenge, another thing entirely.
Well, Rat, Saddam had become a threat, supposedly, to U.S. interests (read: Persian Gulf Oil.) He, also, kept running his mouth, and shooting at our planes.Bushco was able to convince enough of us as to the magnitude of his Threat that he was able to 'git'er done.'It was, likely, mostly bullshit, but we went for it. Lots of innocent Iraqis died, but then again, a lot of innocent African children will stave to death this year. And, a lot of innocent Japanese died because the assholes at TEPCO refused to spend the extra couple of million that the court ordered them to spend on higher floodwalls.Just too much to worry about. Pretty soon you got "paralysis by analysis," or somesuch.I'm going back to bed. G'nite.
Recall that prior to 11SEP01 Osama was a criminal, one that could not be convicted in a Court of Law.There was no "War".If we were really at "War", then the criminals at Gitmo would be POWs, but they are not.It was one of the telling moments of charting the Course which we've Stayed, when that decision was made.
Japan might have been a Nation-State, but those people we interned were U.S. Citizens. Men, Women, and Children.
There were reasons to take Saddam down, but not those articulated by the Federals. The Federals were not faithful to the truth, rufus, on the Iraq attack.
And the US citizens of Japanese descent proved those prejudiced fears of the government to be misplaced.A Lesson Learned.Whether it has any bearing upon tomorrow's challenge, another thing entirely.Sun Sep 11, 11:02:00 AM EDTWhat the people allowed the Federals to do, in 1942, is not the same as the standards of 2000.It is a theme oft heard, here at the EB. That cultural and societal change.
ASSHOLEit is too bad that the bold faced lie concerning Muslim respect for women and children went unchallenged except by meASSHOLEI have time and again talked about women's rights, and how I actually have three mothers. And have had women about me ALL MY LIFE!!!!ASSHOLErisky(even my current lawyer is a woman, replacing my beloved Jewish lawyer who is retired)
Rufus II said... Agriculture is hard work. RUFUS KNOWSrisky
He's Got My Vote For NowBut, he needs to step it up a notch.risky
67. ipw533 Since moving to Philadelphia in 1995, I’ve had the chance to meet and often work with American Muslims–this was not a population that I had encountered very often before then, and I pretty much thought of Muslims as foreigners in distant lands. Such are the views of a country boy from rural Pennsylvania.When I got to Philadelphia most of the American Muslims I met were black; very few were Arab or Asian, and the blacks were almost uniformly American natives. The women wore scarves, and the men sometimes wore skullcaps–most of the time I didn’t even know they were Muslims unless they told me. I saw very few Muslims in full garb.This changed after 09/11/01. I became more aware of and educated about Islam, and began to become a bit disturbed by it.Our IT guy on one of my jobs was a Samoan who converted to Islam before 09/11/01 because he wanted to marry my supervisor, a very nice and pretty and very reasonable but conservative black American woman. We butted heads a few times, but only because I can sometimes be a difficult subordinate–that’s just me, and it wasn’t anything personal. What disturbed me about this was that the IT guy was a former US Marine. Every Marine I’ve ever met was intensely proud of his or her service and would defend the Marine Corps at the drop of a hat. This man, upon his conversion, regretted ever serving in any branch of the US military. It didn’t occur to me until later that perhaps the reason for this was the mosque he joined had an imam who was not American and may indeed have been hostile to his host country. I remain flabbergasted that a Marine of all people could be so completely turned around by such a character.In the years since 09/11/01 I’ve worked all over the city, and I’ve noticed a major increase in people wearing what might be called “traditional Islamic garb”–but having somewhat educated myself I recognize that there really is no such thing. The thobes and niqabs are characteristic of Gulf Arab countries; that so many American Muslims think that they are required as part of their religious identity makes me wonder if “American Islam” is really American at all.Fashion always makes a statement of some sort–that is its nature. It usually is an intentional way of sending a signal to other people, but often it sends unintended signals as well. After that dark September day, and the years of war that followed it, I cannot look upon people–American citizens, people I once swore an oath to defend–walking the streets looking like they just got off of a plane from Riyadh without some second thoughts. For the most part these are ordinary Americans with a particular religion who go about their daily lives just like I do, but it’s like seeing people wearing black uniforms with jackboots, skulls, runes and swastikas. On streets I may one day be called upon to defend again….September 11, 2011 - 8:41 am
Perry sucks worse than W on the border and illegals:Against e-verifyAgainst the fenceFor the Dream Act...for whatever his supporters that want to exploit cheap, illegal labor want.Rubio!...if not Rubio, Romney!
Rubio!...if not Rubio, Romney!.......Palin!!!!!Palin/Rubio !!!!risky
This is good --Anonymous said... It is extremely difficult that anyone with as high an IQ and with as much experience in life as Hitchens can still claim to be an athiest. The real argument is about only in what form(s) the magical, metaphysical, spiritual actually exist and how they can legitimately be described by physics. I don't believe that there is an honest bone in Hitchens' body. IMO, the real question is why he is lying? HL Sun Sep 11, 10:50:00 AM EDTrisky
So far I'm down with brother Herman Cain in 2012. He is a real dark horse, so to speak, but I really like the guy and what he says.
The Vandies kicked the shit out of North Dakota yesterday 44-14, the Fighting Sioux meeting their waterloo so to speak, before over ten thousand cheering fans at Kibby Dome.Another display like this, my guys get a buffet at UIBW.risky
Deuce: So far I'm down with brother Herman Cain in 2012. He is a real dark horse, so to speak, but I really like the guy and what he saysWP: He has stated that he was "uncomfortable" when he found that the surgeon operating on his liver and colon cancer was Muslim.Following a number of such comments, he was asked in March 2011 if he would feel comfortable appointing a Muslim to his administration or as a Judge. Cain said "No, I will not ... There's this creeping attempt, there's this attempt, to gradually ease Shariah Law, and the Muslim faith into our government. It does not belong in our government"(So Cain supports an unconstitutional religious test for public office)Cain opposed the building of an Islamic Center for a Muslim community at a site in Tennessee.Bobal: I have time and again talked about women's rights, and how I actually have three mothers. And have had women about me ALL MY LIFE!!!!Women seem wickedWhen you're unwanted, Streets are unevenWhen you're down.
(So Cain supports an unconstitutional religious test for public office)BULLSHITThe Constitution is not a suicide pact.Anyone that supports the Constitution cannot support Sharia.CAIN IS RIGHTrisky
The womens here got their rights cause of the efforts of my ancestors here.I KNOW whereof I speak.May they be wise with their rights.risky
Anyone that supports the Constitution cannot support Sharia.This is the same crap I get from WiO, when he says anti-Zionism is anti-Semitism is anti-Jew.Not very many people in America support Sharia, Bob.The Constitution is clear: 1. Congress shall make no law prohibiting the free exercise of religion (which means they can build a Mosque on their own land in Tennessee or Ground Zero). 2. There shall be no religious test for public office.
They did indeed get it a little fucked up.Maybe they should have said something like Congress shall pass no bill putting us out of business.You want Sharia?I'll fight you to my dying day, allah willing.FUCK THE MUZZIESr
A've listened closelyTo all you've saidAn' read it twiceAn' my considered opinion isFuck you just the samerisky alibi
bob,I may be ASSHOLE to you but you will always be bob to me - granted, I may make a difference without a distinction as some would argue. Yes, bob, your "Italian shit" and "JEWISH SHIT" and "nigger" (doug) and "cunt" and "whore" (melody) has been a MLK moment for us all. Why they will name a highschool after you.
See T? And your upset about something that was meant to be innocent and inoffensive, which by the way, your comment this morning I have been Miss Maps from an early age, before I was the Elephant Bar slut had me rolling. I snorted coffee through my nose just to keep it from spewing all over my computer.It wasn't pleasant, but I needed a good laugh.
P.s. I'm not laughing at you. I'm laughing with you. ( :
I bought an awesome pair of boots today
I already hate the winter. I thought if I purchased something wintery it would make me feel better.
Melody: And your upset about something that was meant to be innocent and inoffensive, which by the way, your comment this morning I have been Miss Maps from an early age, before I was the Elephant Bar slut had me rolling. I snorted coffee through my nose just to keep it from spewing all over my computer.Then I will resume normal operations, with my tantrum well and truly thrown.
Not even the bottle of wine I just drank makes the cold weather look any better.
The U.S. Government’s Failed History of Muslim Outreach Since 9/11 It is too terrible to contemplate how many more lives may eventually be sacrificed before our elected officials decide to reverse course....As we now know, Alamoudi was indicted in October 2003 for moving money on behalf of Libyan intelligence in an assassination plot targeting Saudi Prince (now King) Abdullah. The U.S. government has admitted that at the time he was being courted by Democrats and Republicans alike, he was a major fundraiser for al-Qaeda.However, it is not as if the U.S. government was unaware of Alamoudi’s attachments. As far back as 1993, an informant told the FBI that Alamoudi was funneling regular payments from Osama bin Laden to Omar Abdel Rahman, the “blind sheikh” who was convicted of authorizing terror attacks against New York landmarks. In March 1996, Alamoudi’s association with Hamas leader Mousa Abu Marzook was exposed in the pages of the Wall Street Journal. Two years later, the State Department came under fire by the New York Post for inviting Alamoudi to official events despite his known remarks in support of terrorism and terrorist leaders.When President Bush took office, Alamoudi was quickly courted by the new administration. In June 2001, the Jerusalem Post reported that Alamoudi was going to be part of a White House meeting with Vice President Cheney despite the fact that Alamoudi was known to have attended a terror confab in Beirut earlier that year featuring representatives from virtually every major Islamic terrorist organization in the world, including al-Qaeda.Yet just days after the 9/11 attacks, Alamoudi was one of the Muslim leaders asked to appear with President Bush at the Islamic Center of Washington, D.C. That same week, one of Alamoudi’s close associates, Muzammil Siddiqi, was asked to deliver an Islamic prayer and to represent the entire Muslim-American community at the national prayer service mourning the fallen.The inclusion of Alamoudi and Siddiqi at the post-9/11 events was highly criticized, especially because Alamoudi had been videotaped in October 2000, as noted by the Los Angeles Times, expressing his support for Hamas and Hezbollah at a rally held just steps from the White House. At that same demonstration, Siddiqi accused the U.S. of responsibility for the plight of the Palestinians and warned that “the wrath of God will come.” One former Secret Service agent told Fox News that “the intelligence community has known for some time the association of Dr. Muzammil Siddiqi and Mr. Alamoudi and their association with terrorist organizations.”The decision to continue doing business with Alamoudi and others like him was just one of many blunders made by the U.S. government in its eagerness to conduct Muslim outreach in the wake of 9/11...
Them's no boots.You couldn't even put them boots in a stirrup.My obligatory: FUCK YOU ALLENrisky
That's the way to go, girl. Throw your tantrum. Stand up and shake the dirt off your ass. Unless you prefer I do it for you. EBS = Elephant Bar Slut( :
Allen, you are no Jew, not like the good ones I have known.You are a Jew by birth and some crazy indoctrination or something.If you were a Christian, you'd be a Pat Robertson or some shit, and ripe for a place on the 700 Club.Allen: FUCK YOUrisky alibi
If you only knew what MLD stood for, but that's between me and, well….Me. I like the name you gave me, T. It kinda fits me.
I'm really taking a risky here, and know I'll get bucked off, but....what part of Colorado, your daughter?I don't know much of Colorado.risky
I said once, long ago, MLD stood for mildew, and asked you to go away, recall?, thinking the place was being stormed by lesbos.:)risky
Oh, and I thought it was a great post. I don't know if Clinton was the greatest speaker of all time, but I always did like to listen to him. His speech moved me. I missed it yesterday because…oh, yeah, I was sun bathing, so I thank you, I actually watch the whole video. Although, I cannot tell a lie, I did fast forward a little through Biden's speech. That man just bores me.
Lesbos is not a word.
Clinton looks Presidential, until you remember he was getting a blow job by Monica every day, coming all over her blue dress.risky
I say lesbos is a word.What part of Colorado????Please.....risky
77. Mad Fiddler: I think it’s more likely to be nations descending again into darkness, roads abandoned to the encroaching trees and shrubs. Villages separated by a day’s walk will become self-sufficient or die. Without regular commerce with other villages, modes of speech will drift, and the few travelers will be instantly identifiable as “outlanders” as soon as they open their mouths. Unlike the highly professional and unquestionably reliable news media of the modern world, “news” will consist of rumor, exaggeration, and myth passed along orally.Only if we lose all electric power, even that generated locally by solar or wind or creek. For you cannot un-invent the PC or the cell phone. Even if no one produces new ones, sufficient "obsolete" ones exist in people's garages, waiting to be recycled, since landfills won't take them. Just yesterday I bought a 1.7 GHZ PC for $35.The illusion will snap, and US currency will suddenly be seen in the harsh light of sobriety for the third-rate toilet paper Obama and the Leftards have made it.Don't forget GWB. If you examine this chart, you will see what that moron did to the dollar from 2002 to 2008.
Teresita said...Melody: And your upset about something that was meant to be innocent and inoffensive, which by the way, your comment this morning I have been Miss Maps from an early age, before I was the Elephant Bar slut had me rolling. I snorted coffee through my nose just to keep it from spewing all over my computer.Then I will resume normal operations, with my tantrum well and truly thrown.so that makes 6 times you have stormed out?
She's been out there all day.She has to get through a Latin class to graduate.I'm hoping for a D-.Emerson was right, why try to teach these kids Latin, when they are always going to speak American, anyways.And love to ride horses.She gets her English saddle tomorrow, if UPS is up to snuff.risky
I knew a girlLucky in her bonesAnd O when she walkedShe'd make any man moanAnd when she talked....She.....risky
If you only knew what MLD stood for, but that's between me and, well….Me. Music Loving DykeBut I didn't ask, so you don't tell.
"so that makes 6 times you have stormed out?"Are you keeping track? Because who really cares, 6, 12, or 24.
Denver?Aspen?damn you :)r
Bailey in Park County, Colorado?Bark Ranch in Boulder County, Colorado???r
I'm glad to see "Teresita" is back. That anonymous shit is for the birds. Even though we know who anonymous is It really doesn't define the meaning of who we are in this world. Although, I wish I could just be anonymous on occasion.
Yellow Jacket in Montezuma County, Colorado??Yoder in El Paso County, Colorado???I give uprisky
Oh for the love of God what are you talking about. Colorado? What?
Bush has fixed a lot of his decline as a public speaker that occured after he was elected. He is actually a better ex temp speaker than Obama. But Clinton was an order of magnitude better speaker in his 9/11 role than either Bush or Obama.Seeing Clinton, I thought of his friend GHW Bush. Wondered if his age & health prevented him from a role in the ceremonies. Hope not.
O for the love of G-d I was just interested in where your daughter went in COLORADO, but it is certainly none of my business.I just like places out west, away away from the smog and shit crime of your big shit cities back east.Shouldn't have asked.risky
I have softened on Bill Clinton but President Bush is welcome at my table anytime.And I am mighty proud to be a fellow Texan.-Aqua Dulce, TX
You did mention your daughter went to colorado unless i dreamed itr
What a great name: Agua Dulce
I mentioned my daughter going to Colorado? Red Rocks, i'm not sure if that is the town or just the venue where the concert was playing.
bob said...If you were a Christian, you'd be a Pat Robertson or some shit, and ripe for a place on the 700 Club.I don't know about that but I do know you will be forever bob. As for as "FUCK YOU", I observe that you omitted JEW and, bob, I don't get angry or hurt until the type is 64 font with 22 exclamation points. Ride'm cowboy!
Red Rocks is close to Boulder, on the very eastern face of the Rockies, it's a concert venue and a park. People in Denver get bored, and go, "Hey man, let's go to Red Rocks".
The scenic views were beautiful, T. The venue looked awesome. Did I mention she is going to New Zealand in Feb.
Never heard of Red Rocks, to my everlasting shame.Allen you swine you said I fucked my own daughter.Go back to you synagogue.risky
Melody was right, when she said, if you hate us all so so so much, why keep coming back?If only Shittbbat was all week long.risky alibi
Did I mention she is going to New Zealand in Feb.No, but tell her to take a fly rod.My uncle, who taught me the art, was always talking bout Zealand.risky
I don't know if her going to New Zealand is going to mess up our west coast plans. You know we've been dying to go see Mt St Helens.
As in fishing? My daughter? Bwahahahahaha…
Would that also be known as "Sweetwater, Texas?"
Shall we, o Allenly poo, have a long and insightful discussion of the very learned rabbinical writings on the meaning, risks, evidence, and dread of slander??FUCK OFF ALLENrisky
... for Brian et al ...ABRAHAM LINCOLN'S LETTER TO MRS BIXBY, 1864 Dear Madam,I have been shown in the files of the War Department a statement of the Adjutant General of Massachusetts that you are the mother of five sons who have died gloriously on the field of battle. I feel how weak and fruitless must be any word of mine which should attempt to beguile you from the grief of a loss so overwhelming.But I cannot refrain from tendering you the consolation that may be found in the thanks of the Republic they died to save. I pray that our Heavenly Father may assuage the anguish of your bereavement, and leave you only the cherished memory of the loved and lost, and the solemn pride that must be yours to have laid so costly a sacrifice upon the altar of freedom.Yours, very sincerely and respectfully,A. LincolnWashington, November 21, 1864
Helens.Ain't much.I could show you the "real deal" but the chance of that happening is....ZEROrisky :(
Oops, I guess not. :)Agua Dulce, Tx.
Aqua Dulcesorry about the misspelling. :)
there were 737 peopleHell Rufus that's way way too many peoplesrisky
The first is: why should it stop at Greece?In a way, it will stop at Greece. Because this means Greece will be ejected from the EU (which they should have never been allowed to join), and they be allowed to default, and they'll roll out their drachma again, and inflate their debt away. They will cease to be a drag on the rest of the Eurozone because they won't be in the Eurozone. The generations of Greeks raised from womb to tomb in the socialist paradise will suffer greatly, but the hemorrhaging will have stopped from that source, and the way forward will be clear.Portugal and Ireland will be next. They will be thrown overboard to staunch the rest if the bleeding. This will take pressure off of Spain, Italy, and France. Because if any one or a combination of those nations goes into default, all bets are off, you're talking about a world depression with 25% unemployment and global GDP falling to half, not just a continuation of the "Great Recession".The idea of Britain ever joining the Euro is "right out" as Brother Maynard would say. This is also the end of the European model of social justice, and it's coming just as Obama is taking America down that same dead end road and asking for four more years to complete the journey.
MLD: You know we've been dying to go see Mt St Helens.The other guys saw this already, but here's what Mt. St. Helens looks like from Mt. St. Helens when I went there exactly one year ago.
Whoops, broken link.Sorry Mel.
It Is "Agua."I had it right the first time. ;)Looks like a thriving little Metropolis. :)I could see retiring there.Collect my SS check, and tell the world to kiss my ass. :)
Melody, go to the Steens.Hike up to some of them high mountain lakes.risky
Fighter jets intercepted a New York-bound airliner this afternoon, high above Pennsylvania, after a passenger freaked out over another flyer’s frequent bathroom trips, sources said....Incognito air marshals were on board, but never had to reveal their identity, the AA rep added.Airline passengers were understandably tense, and on high alert, today, the 10-year anniversary of hijackers taking over four transcontinental flights.
Go HEREMelody.For a fee, I will show you round.risky
ATTORNEY: She had three children , right?WITNESS: Yes.ATTORNEY: How many were boys?WITNESS: None.ATTORNEY: Were there any girls?WITNESS: Your Honor, I think I need a different attorney. Can I get a new attorney?
Right close to Corpus Christie. Ride the Moped over for a little "beach time."
Bush was never a favorite speaker of mine whether I liked him or not. Maybe it was the absence of expression that made me throw up a little in my mouth. It was like he couldn't get those tiny lips of his to open wide enough. I think I've seen him smile twice. I was surprised that Clinton didn't team up with his friend GHW Bush for the fund raiser and went with speaker Boehner. They actually made a good team.
I take Visa and Mastercards.Fuck the politicians.risky
It's beautiful, T. I think for Mini Me it's just the fact of saying that she's been there, and of course we have to stop in Forks, because that where, ya know, Twilight was filmed.
It's beautiful, T. I think for Mini Me it's just the fact of saying that she's been there, and of course we have to stop in Forks, because that where, ya know, Twilight was filmed.Every cafe in Forks has at least one poster signed by a Twilight star. There's a goth clothing store right downtown, and you've got campsites with signs saying vampires are welcome. But when you go to Forks, never mind the town, go see Rialto Beach. It's the start of a very long piece of coastline that's still as wild as the days when Cap'n George Vancouver first saw it.
You are just wasting your gas on Helens, but then, what do you know?risky
Never been to Steens, but I been to Burns for a weekend, that's only an hour north. Rattlesnake country. Bring a canteen Mel, and sunblock.
You are just wasting your gas on Helens, but then, what do you know?Got laid at the Girl Scout camp there on Spirit Lake, in 1979, when I was fourteen, the summer before the mountain blew. That weren't no waste of gas.
Commemoration ceremonies were held at many U.S. and NATO military bases around the country.Although the coalition has made some gains in the Taliban's traditional southern strongholds, violence has not abated around the country.The battle against al-Qaida also has spread across the border with Pakistan, where a suspected U.S. missile strike on a house Sunday killed three people in an al-Qaida and Taliban safe haven along the frontier, Pakistani intelligence officials said. They spoke on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to talk with reporters.
Well, noted. Thanks T. Mini will love that. Of course if we go April won't be beach weather.
Idiots.Take a horse to drink, he won't do it.Even our intellectual Miss T has fallen.risky
#1 in '79
There, Go Thererisky
Rattlesnakes? You want "Rattlesnakes?"We gotcher Rattlesnakes - Sweetwater Rattlesnake Round-up
it's more like..
Don't run out of gas out there on Steens Mountain.
oh lordy, the EB is morphing into a dyke bar...
I like that skin pit.risky
Bob: oh lordy, the EB is morphing into a dyke bar...Debbie Harry may be a gay icon, but not for gay women.That would be Pink.It's just U & Ur Hand tonight.
Good Grief Miss T, I must go to bed.But being the English scholar that I am, I have ordered copies of Sir Thomas Browne's works from the closing of BookPeople in Moscow.Then I will quote, in the olde lovable English Language, what it really means to get a good night's sleep.risky alibi
Police Commissioner Ray Kelly confirmed that one of the two missing construction vans has been recovered in Queens.Meanwhile, the NYPD last night issued an alert about a North Carolina man reported missing since Tuesday who is “addicted to pills,” armed and headed to Ground Zero for the 9/11 memorial, sources said.Wesley Wokasch, 33, was facing prescription-drug fraud charges this week, said a Cary, NC, town spokeswoman.
Outside Greece, there are new worries that Athens is dragging its feet on measures it agreed to undertake in exchange for a $159-billion financial lifeline.As part of the new austerity measures, the government is moving to slash the salaries of elected officials, including the president's by 7%, and tap into the deep pockets of wealthy shipowners.A Greek deputy is paid 6,595.03 euros per month. So these measures will save 461 euros, times the number of elected officials in Greece, which has the same population as Ohio.As for the "deep pockets" of the shipowners:Recent changes in Greek legislation proved to be the last straw that broke the camel’s back concerning the Greek-Cypriot cruise company Louis Hellenic Cruises, which announced it was withdrawing from the Greek flag. "The new legal framework that has been put into effect with the repeal of the cabotage makes the Greek ships apparently uncompetitive against foreign ones, especially with the burden of operational costs. Therefore, we have no choice but to abandon the Greek flag," said the official statement of Louis Hellenic Cruises, cited by Ta Nea.'Nuff said.--If Iran invaded Turkey from the rear would Greece help?
"Ten years later, I'd say America came through this thing in a way that was consistent with our character," he told NBC News. "We've made mistakes....In the broadcast interview, Obama recalled going home after the attacks and rocking his baby daughter, Sasha. "Our first reaction was, and continues to be, just heartbreak for the families involved.The other thing that we all remember is how America came together."
From yourMusic Loving DykePeace
“The mob attack on the Israeli Embassy is a serious incident,” Israeli news Web site Ynet quoted Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu as saying....“We are committed to preserving peace with Egypt, which is in the interest of Egypt and Israel,” he said in a radio address.A senior Israeli diplomat stayed behind when Ambassador Yitzhak Levanon and his staff were evacuated, to maintain delicate ties with Egypt.
GOD what NOISE.I liked risky's whinnys better, when we trucked him to the stables....All three of us laughed at that, with Risky, that would make four!risky
The relationshipBetween humanity and horseIs almost gone nowKilled by PicassoAt GuernicaForgotten by the American cityOnly a whinnyRemainingBetween father and daughterAnd a pickup truck and trailerAnd Riskyrisky