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Wednesday, September 14, 2011

Obama Wants Europeans to Pass a Banking Bill "Right Away"

President Barack Obama attacks European leaders over debt crisis


President Barack Obama has criticised European leaders for failing to tackle the debt crisis and has demanded "more effective, co-ordinated" fiscal policy.


  • Only 60% of US Federal expenditure is covered by tax revenues, with 40% borrowed.
  • Obama's just announced new, expensive make-work programmes, while at the same time cutting taxes. (The cut in revenue is guaranteed, the job creation is speculative.)
  • And this man wags a finger at Europe!


Obama can't even persuade the Californians to sort out their colossal budgetary mess.




Jews from da Hood send Obama a message.

136 comments:

  1. How much more do we have to take?

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  2. Thank You, Thank you, Thank you, you lovely Jews from Brooklyn.

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  3. Thank You, Thank you, Thank you, you lovely Jews from Brooklyn.

    House of Representatives - POLITICS
    Republican Wins House Race in New York, Seen as Obama Rebuke

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  4. rational people have spoken congats. and mazel tov.

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  5. Jewish voters from all parts of the political spectrum took up Mayor Ed Koch's challenge to send a protest vote to the White House about Obama's Israel policy. That message was heard loud and clear. And the timing could not have been better, coming just before the UN vote on Palestinian statehood. Happy New Year in 5772!

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  6. Obama has now suffered a humiliating defeat in a district where registered Democrats outnumber registered Republicans 3:1.

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  7. Deuce, your sense of pictorialness, or whatever you want to call it, is so often

    "picture perfect"

    risky

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  8. I am glad
    That I am just what I am
    Only that
    That I am not a Jew
    Nor a Lutheran
    But am just what I am
    Not even a modern man
    Just a man
    That can sit on the curb
    The concrete
    Or in a field
    Watch the traffic go by
    Or the horses
    A man with a mind
    In love with itself

    risky

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  9. This will of course be attacked by the asshole from Phoenix, Arizona so I amend

    A man with a mind
    In love with itself
    Beginning to learn
    To reach out to others

    risky

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  10. Dear Mr.Obama,

    Shut up.

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  11. "The Audacity of Dope."

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  12. Obama is a joke!!!

    Qualifications?

    I am voting TEA PARTY. I would vote BUSH W back in if it were possible for him to run

    Now I am just waiting for it to collapse :)

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  13. The folk in NYCity see Israel as their most important issue facing the United States?

    Not jobs nor the greater challenges facing the US economy?

    They should emigrate, to where their hearts reside.

    anon awaits the "collapse", while the people of NYCity are voting foreign policy issues.

    Seems a tad disconnected.

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  14. Now Obama might as well let the Pallies have their State, since the second most reliably Democratic constituency just went over to the Dark Side.

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  15. at least 120 of the 193 U.N. member states look ready to support the Palestinians -- maybe opening the way for them to join other international bodies, including the International Criminal Court (ICC) in the Hague.

    Israel fears it could use the ICC to take action against some 500,000 Israelis who live in territory seized in 1967 and whose settlements most world powers regard as illegal.

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  16. Ass stabbing Jews of NYCity, that's how the White House may view this vote, in NYCity.

    Ms T describes how they deliver "pay back" in Chi-town.

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  17. Not to be outdone, in RENO -- Fed-up Republican voters fueled Mark Amodei's special election blowout victory Tuesday over Democrat Kate Marshall, keeping the 2nd Congressional District in GOP hands while shaking up President Barack Obama's supporters.

    In other news:

    Justin Bieber spoke to Life & Style magazine about his affinity for ladies' jeans. "I've worn women's jeans before because they fit me. It's not a trend; it's just, whatever works, works."

    That's what we gals in the flannel-wearing set have said all along.

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  18. The swing in New York, from May to September, shows just how unstable any national prognostication based upon NY voters can be.

    The Democrats win an upset in May, the Pubs win an upset in September.

    120 days, the pendulum swings quickly, in this connected environment.

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  19. Of Jewish donors who donated to Mr. Obama in 2008, only 64% have already donated or plan to donate to his re-election campaign. Woooo! That's quite a drop, from 80% to 64%. Maybe even WiO and Allen will switch to the GOP this time.

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  20. I do not write off the ability of obama to win next year...

    israel is an important issue...

    as is columbia, honduras, taiwan, poland and other allies to the usa that obama has screwed over....

    obama is leading from behind and loving watching America implode....

    finally American Jews are waking up and voting with their ballots and their dollars...

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  21. Weprin voted for the Gay marriage bill that was shoved down the throat of New Yorkers. Weprin supports abortion, supports marriage between sodomites, supports a mosque at ground zero, but claims he's an Orthodox Jew? If he's an orthodox Jew, then I'm Soupy Sales! And what self-respecting synagogue would let him walk through their doors, anyway?This race will send Alarm bells to the White House because the Jewish vote may be very critical to Obama's re-election especially in states like Florida which have a large Jewish population.

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  22. Teresita said...
    Now Obama might as well let the Pallies have their State, since the second most reliably Democratic constituency just went over to the Dark Side.


    Obama is doing all it can to help the fake nationalistic death cult murderous people self called :palestinian:

    If Obama (sorry I cap'd his name, no respect intended) sees that he is not going to get the election victory? He will go out with a bang...

    What most dont see is that obama and company has not slowed down on regulations, thousands and thousands of new reg's are being released by the WH with the intent on changing America into Amerika.

    Most are unseen by the general public.

    It will take at least decade to undo what obama has wrought...

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  23. Deuce,

    With respect, the Jews you picture are NOT Jews who likely voted for Mr. Obama in the first place.

    It was a good thing to see!

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  24. Gag Reflex,

    Happy Birthday!

    Mine comes in exactly one week. I so love being "49" :-)

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  25. Obama is playing a game. He knows his jobs bill is not going to pass. The entire thing is tilted towards the unions, public and private. To Obama, it is a win - win. He will get the union vote for succeeding or trying.

    With Obama, it is all about Obama. Job number one is the only job that Obama really cares about.

    Listening to Obama disgusts me, not so much him but all the fools that buy into him.

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  26. Melody's video is a hoot, however I thought a knish fight would have been better.

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  27. WOW people blaming the markets, surely even a illiterate clown can see that the cause of these problems is Governments borrowing money to spend on things they couldn't afford by fiddling the books and then now not having the political balls to take the problems by the scruff of the neck and sorting them out with a plausible achievable plan?

    The markets may have been slow to realize what these basically corrupt governments were up to but you cant penalize them now for doing what they should have been doing in the first place.

    Honestly, I'm sick and tired of this whole banking farce, aren't you? The "markets and finance" sectors dictating how we have to run our countries; the politicians we democratically voted doing nothing about it or worse: bowing their heads to them and obliging (and in the meantime getting richer and richer). I'd love a 1789 again, guillotines and all, globalized.

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  28. HERE IS A FUCKING SHOCK

    TRIPOLI, Libya — For decades, bearded men in Libya were afraid to walk in the streets or go to the mosque, worried that to be seen as an Islamist would land them in prison, or worse.

    As Libya’s leader, Moammar Gaddafi regarded Islamists as the greatest threat to his authority, and he ordered thousands of them detained, tortured and, in some cases, killed. The lucky ones fled the country in droves. But with Gaddafi now in hiding, Islamists are vying to have a say in a new Libya, one they say should be based on Islamic law.

    Although it went largely unnoticed during the tumultuous civil war the regime lost last month, Islamists were at the heart of the fight, many as rebel commanders. Now some are clashing with secularists within the rebels’ Transitional National Council, prompting worries among some liberals that the Islamists — who still command the bulk of fighters and weapons — could use their strength to assert an even more dominant role.


    How anyone with a brain didn't see this coming.

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  29. A majority of Americans don’t believe President Barack Obama’s $447 billion jobs plan will help lower the unemployment rate, skepticism he must overcome as he presses Congress for action and positions himself for re- election.
    The downbeat assessment of the American Jobs Act reflects a growing and broad sense of dissatisfaction with the president. Americans disapprove of his handling of the economy by 62 percent to 33 percent, a Bloomberg National Poll conducted Sept. 9-12 shows. The disapproval number represents a nine point increase from six months ago.

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  30. Well, Deuce, we all know that Libya, Egypt, are Muslim majority States.

    Just as the US is a Christian majority State.

    The Colonel, in Libya, definitely embraced Islam but not the radical variety. He was a sponsor of terrorism, but it was as a tool of foreign policy, not religion.

    That the more radical Islamoids would have a role in the coming democratic reorganization of the Islamic States, to be expected.

    Just as many radical Christians attempt to play a role in US politics.

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  31. That the US has embraced the concept of religious republics, even to the point of constructing two of them, while sponsoring another, inexplicable.

    The United States should not subsidize any State Religion, anywhere. It violates the most basic of the core principles of our nation.

    Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;

    A Constitutional Amendment which Federal foreign policy is currently violating in at least three cases.

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  33. If a foreign State has an officially established religion, then the US should not be a sponsor of that State.

    It violates not only the letter of the US Constitution, but the spirit of it, tambien.

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  34. um, Mr. Lawyer Rat, how do you interpret "or prohibiting the free exercise thereof". Those foreign governments are simply exercising their "free exercise". In addition providing foreign aid in now way rises to making a "law respecting an establishment of religion".

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  35. Well, ash, if the Copts of Egypt were not allowed free exercise of religion, by the government of Egypt, if the Egyptian government did not allow for the free exercise of Coptic rituals, we'd cut them off, financially.

    If the Egyptian government was sponsoring, by funding Islamic religious centers, we'd cut them off, financially.

    As Constitutionally prescribed.

    In the case of Egypt, least $4 billion USD annually.

    Same in Afghanistan where conversion to Christianity is a legal death sentence. This from a government the US established, by force of arms, blood and treasure.

    The US could continue to relate to those countries, but the US sponsorship and subsidy would end.

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  36. The argument has much more merit to it than the legal reasoning behind Roe v Wade.

    Establishing a Constitutional "Right to Privacy" that cannot be quoted from the text, but can only be found by inference.

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  37. The United States can communicate with, and attempt to persuade, other States, even those that have politically established religions.

    Just not fund them.

    Diplomacy without tribute payments, what a concept.

    Not original to me, though.

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  38. .

    Ash, good to see you back.

    I was asking about you the other day. Even went to "Ash Rants" but it appeared inactive.

    Don't worry about rat. He's on one of his "that's entertainment" tours. We've been dealing with and subsidizing the UK for two hundred years.

    This meme is just another fart in the wind from our favorite cabelero.

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  39. How much foreign aid does the UK get, now?

    We could stop borrowing that amount, from China, letting the Brits borrow that money, firsthand.

    They certainly do not need the US Ar Force based there, any longer.

    There no longer being an opposing force to ward off.

    If it were to force the Brits to divest their government from the Church of England, all the better.

    If the Queen had to choose, between being Monarch or Churchman, well, another win for our Founders and the continuing revolution.

    Because, as Thomas Jefferson told US:

    In every country and every age, the priest has been hostile to Liberty.

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  40. I tend to think that Mr Jefferson would include Rabbis, Pastors and Mullahs in his use of the word "priest".

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  41. Oh, I'm not worried about Rat 'cause it really is just entertainment. One reason I'm back is that, over time, Rat demonstrates that he actually thinks about things and changes his position - his thought evolves. Not as much as I'd like (the continual focus on abortion as murder is one meme he should revisit). Another reason is that you, Quirk, appear to be a bright individual who actually has evolving thought. Most others not so much but they do provide "entertainment" - I mean look at our dear hosts hate for Obama and how it clouds his every thought with just one example being his joy at the Jews not supporting Obama in the the NY election even though Obama's Israel position is far closer to his then the Republicans.

    Anyway, Happy birthday Gag and Melody, that link to the Jewz in da hood brought a smile to my face.

    With respect to your argument Rat that "As Constitutionally prescribed.". Your mistake is to apply the constitutional rights to others outside the borders of the USA - US law does not have jurisdiction around the world.

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    Come on rat. Had you said, we should stop all foreign aid period, most here would agree with you. Offering up religion as the litmus test is ridiculous.

    Nations only have interests. Your offering up religion as a determining factor in political decisions is akin to the neocons demanding democracy. And just as loony.

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    Well, anyway, it's good to see you around Ash (one more guy I can argue with).

    Yea, I forgot about Gag.

    Happy birthday Gag!


    (Although I think you've got Melody and Trish mixed up Ash. Trish's birthday was on the 3rd. Melody's comes in a few months.)

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  44. Q, I am reading the Constitution, drawing the obvious conclusions.

    Certainly nations have interests.

    Those interests are based upon the advancement of that country's society and culture.

    The Founders concluded, in the beginning, that an established State religion was the antithesis of the culture and society they were trying to create in the United States.

    These foreign States should be paying the United States, for services rendered, not be subsidizing them and any brand of their political religiosity.

    The Federals are acting beyond their legal mandate, once again.

    If there is a desire to dial back government, there are Constitutional demands that should be addressed, first and foremost.

    Control of monetary policy, should return to Congress, as prescribed in the Constitution.

    The Congress should not support any State with an established religion. For the US to subsidize institutions, abhorrent.

    To compel a man to furnish funds for the propagation of ideas he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical.

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  45. It should have read:



    The Congress should not support any State with an established religion. For the US to subsidize this religious institutions, abhorrent.

    To compel a man to furnish funds for the propagation of ideas he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical.

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  46. My writing is still just as poor as it always was. I meant Happy Birth Gag. Melody, that link....

    trish, baby, how are you? Don't be coy, speak up!

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  47. I understood what you meant.


    That's entertainment. ( :

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  48. Why are we funding an Islamic Republics, in one of which conversion to Christianity carries a death sentence?

    It has an established religion and does not allow for the free exercise of any other religion, but the State's.

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    The Congress should not support any State with an established religion. For the US to subsidize this religious institutions, abhorrent.



    Riddle me this. What countries should we be subsidizing?


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  50. I presume Afghanistan it the country you are referring to? Why, 'cause the Taliban were worse. Not that I think it is a good idea but that is why - in a simplified form anyway.

    In general, with the Arab spring, we don't have much choice but to engage simply because we are engaged. I would suggest that, in general, it is better to offer support to governments that truly reflect the will of the populace instead of supporting totalitarian regimes because it better supports our (financial) interest.

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  51. What kind of "Right to Privacy" allows for abortion, but not prostitution?

    It is the woman's body, in both cases. Why are her privacy rights to control her body not the same in both activities?

    Flies in the face of reason, that her Privacy Rights encompass personal control of the results of sex, but not sex itself.

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    The Federals are acting beyond their legal mandate, once again.


    Nonsense.

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  53. Yes, the laws against prostitution are absurd.

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  54. I don't know why prostitutes don't simply just carry a video camera with them and claim that they are making a porn movie.

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  55. The United States should not be subsidizing any country that is not vital to its legitimate Constitutional interests.

    But even those need to meet the Constitutional standards.

    I'd think that countries in Central America could be subsidized, to help deter the migration towards US.

    But, as Mr Washington said:

    The nation which indulges towards another a habitual hatred or a habitual fondness is in some degree a slave. It is a slave to its animosity or to its affection, either of which is sufficient to lead it astray from its duty and its interest.

    The US should act in its own interests, within the Constitutional limits that are the bedrock of our liberty.

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  56. The Federals, Q, have a mandate to not establish a State religion.

    That is a mandate that they violated in Iraq and Afghanistan.

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    The Federals, Q, have a mandate to not establish a State religion.

    That is a mandate that they violated in Iraq and Afghanistan.




    The first statement applies here in the US. The other is just plain wrong. The efforts in Iraq and Afghanistan may have been misguided but they didn't violate the Constitution.

    If you perceive a mandate rat that's fine. I would consider it on a par with the GOP's perception that the 2008 election gave them a mandate to cut taxes and spending.

    A legal requirement, naw. Not really.

    As Ash pointed out there is a reason it's called the Constitution of the United States. It was designed to create a more perfect union here not to establish a hundred of them around the world.

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  58. Forcing allen and "o" to finance those Islamic Republics.

    That's abhorrent.

    Mr Jefferson's message resonating through time.

    An elective despotism was not the government we fought for

    Not here, there, or any where.

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    The United States should not be subsidizing any country that is not vital to its legitimate Constitutional interests.


    And who decides which countries meet that criteria?

    You?

    Your reading of our constitution and how it applies to other sovereign nations leaves you suspect.

    You are basically saying that the ideals embodied in our constitution are the best that can be designed and if another country doesn't accept those same standards despite having different history, culture, and moral standards, it is illegal for us to subsidize or aid them even if it is in our interest as a nation to do so.

    To my mind, not only mistaken from a legal basis but also a bit presumptious.

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    An elective despotism was not the government we fought for

    Here you are talking political philosophy not law.

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  61. By establishing foreign governments, through force of arms, that Federal mandate remains.

    Wherever the US military is, that part of the United States.
    This is the principle that validated John McCain's birth in the Panama Canal Zone as being in the "natural" United States.

    It is exemplified when US flags fly at fire bases, in foreign lands.

    The impact of the Constitution upon the Federal government certainly does extend beyond the borders of the United States. It is binding upon the Federal government, everywhere.

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  62. Not really, State's with established religions are by definition elective despotism.

    Or where States impede the free exercise of religion, other than the State's.

    Iranian treatment of those of The Bahá'í Faith would well qualify as despotic.

    Syrian treatment of Sunni extremists, now that'd be a judgement call, on whether it was motivated by the Assad clan's religion, aye?

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  63. While Turkey and the PKK Kurds, well, Communists are secularist or atheist, no?

    Does that make it a religious persecution, perhaps it is just ideological or ethnic nationalism running wild, one wonders?

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  64. While there is nothing wrong with investigating and coming to an understanding of the ideological philosophy that is the foundation of US law.

    Mr Jefferson, without doubt, assisted in the design of the philosophical and legal edifices of what would become the United States, built upon the foundations of the Enlightenment.

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  65. States that use religious quotas, or favor one religious sect over another, they are practicing elective despotism.

    The US is duty bound, by the Constitution, to not support such things.

    To do so, it is just abhorrent.

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  66. When we lose understanding of the philosophical underpinnings of the law, our civic spirit is diminished.

    The spirit of our revolution should lead US in our dealings aboard.

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  67. Retail sales in the U.S. unexpectedly stagnated in August as a lack of employment and limited income growth restrained demand, highlighting the risk the economy will stall.

    The unchanged reading followed a 0.3 percent gain for July that was smaller than previously estimated, Commerce Department figures showed today in Washington. Prices paid by producers were also unchanged in August, according to the Labor Department, while so-called core costs that exclude food and fuel rose less than forecast.


    Going Nowhere Fast

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  68. Palin and former Miami Heat player Glen Rice had a one-night tryst back in 1987.

    At the time, the former Alaska governor, now 47, was single, just out of college and working as a sports reporter at Anchorage TV station KTUU.

    Rice, 44, who lives in Coral Gables, was a promising junior basketball player at the University of Michigan.

    Their encounter occurred while Rice was in Anchorage attending a basketball tournament and Palin apparently covered the event. Months later, in 1988, Palin eloped with her high school sweetheart Todd Palin. The two are still married.

    Quoting from the book, the tabloid said that at the time, the 23-year-old Palin had a “fetish” about black men.

    Rice was contacted by McGinniss and the former Heat confirmed the one-night stand with the woman who became famous as Republican vice presidential candidate, the tabloid said.


    Read more: http://www.miamiherald.com/2011/09/14/2406810/palin-and-miami-heats-glen-rice.html#ixzz1Xx8bP9fo

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  69. It should be noted that Turkey has been a staunchly secular state since 1928, just after the modern nation’s founding when a constitutional amendment was passed removing Islam as the state religion. Secularism and the removal of Ottoman era Islamic legal codes was a major priority of modern Turkey’s founder Mustafa Kemal Ataturk. The Constitution currently states that Turkey is a secular democratic republic.

    Rubin believes it is no coincidence that Prime Minister Erdogan will this week address Arab foreign ministers. “Turkish foreign policy is consciously being driven toward more Islamic leanings,” he said, “and this is seen not only in the current situation, but this goes back to the diplomatic capital which Turkey is willing to expend in order to get the leadership of the Organization of the Islamic Conference (OIC).”

    The 56-member OIC, the second largest intergovernmental organization in the world, is currently headed by Turkish academic and diplomat Ekmeleddin Ihsanoglu, who recently condemned the U.N. report on the Israeli raid of the Gaza flotilla for what he called a “whitewash” of Israel’s actions.

    However, Erdogan declares himself to be an avowed advocate of secularism.
    In an interview aired by the Egyptian satellite channel Dream TV Monday,
    Erdogan expressed hopes that Egypt would choose a secular over an Islamic government, similar to the Turkish model.
    He also stressed his conviction that secularism is not incompatible with Islam.

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  70. the military no longer determines national strategy, public opinion counts more than ever. And most Turks, says he, these days vote by the pocket book.

    The German Marshall Fund’s 2011 Transatlantic Trends survey, released this week, shows one in five Turks believe that on international issues, Turkey should cooperate with the Middle East rather than the West. Forty-three percent think that NATO is no longer essential; 53% have an unfavorable opinion of the European Union, and 43% consider Middle Eastern countries to be more important to Turkey’s economic interests than European countries.

    Thus, says Lesser, business is the key dynamic in Turkish policy: “Commercial interests, especially in the Middle East, but also in Russia and Europe.” Even Turkey’s refusal to sign onto sanctions against Iran and its relationship with Syria, said Lesser, were “driven more by Turkey’s commercial and security interests, than by any concept of Islamic solidarity.”

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  71. Any job program is doomed to failure because politicians fundamentaly do not understand how wealth is created or destroyed.

    Simply, any family, tribe, city, country, nation, etc. and its individual members can prosper or become debt ridden in accordance with their industrial behavior, government spending behavior, and/or other economic actions of the leaders of that family.

    If any family or nation purchased imported things from outside of their family of less monetary value than the monetary (or otherwise useful value) of the items that they sold and exported to others outside of their family, then that family would have a net positive foreign trade balance of gold, grain, cattle, etc. into that family. Only a net positive foreign trade balance will increase the value of the accumulate­d real wealth of privately owned wealth and assets within that family

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  72. 2. Dave D.: …How in hell can the U.S., which borrows money every day just to operate, guarentee Europes debt’s ?

    News for ya Dave, we already did.

    In summary, instead of doing everything in its power to stimulate reserve, and thus cash, accumulation at domestic (US) banks which would in turn encourage lending to US borrowers, the Fed has been conducting yet another stealthy foreign bank rescue operation, which rerouted $600 billion in capital from potential borrowers to insolvent foreign financial institutions in the past 7 months. QE2 was nothing more (or less) than another European bank rescue operation!

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  73. Palin and former Miami Heat player Glen Rice had a one-night tryst back in 1987.



    Who is Glen Rice?

    And it sounds like ole Glen is a little sad his career has ended...

    And maybe he had a thing for white women....

    After all, if Sarah had a "fetish" for black MEN, why is there only ONE black man speaking up?

    Sound like IF she did have a "date" with this young man, it was because HE was the young man.

    Saying she had a "fetish" for black men implies a serial usage of them as a sexual stimulant. One black man does not make a fetish.

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  74. The credit worthiness of the United States is beyond dispute, Dave.

    We can guarantee whatever we desire.
    We can just mint the coin.
    We have the reserve currency of the whirled, no one else does,

    That makes the critical difference, what sets the United States apart from any family, clan or other nation.

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  75. That the United States has decided to borrow the money to make its interest payments, just that, a matter of choice.

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  76. U.S. Blames Pakistan-Based Group for Kabul Attack

    The militant group that he and other officials blamed for the attack, the Haqqani network, is a crucial ally of Al Qaeda in the Pakistani border region and has been a longtime asset of Pakistan’s military and intelligence services in Afghanistan.
    ...
    The Haqqanis have been blamed for high-profile attacks in Kabul and elsewhere in Afghanistan, including the bombing of the Indian Embassy in 2008, which killed 54 people.

    Afterward, American intelligence officials confronted their Pakistani counterparts with evidence that Haqqani fighters had received support and direction from Pakistan’s intelligence agency, the Inter-Services Intelligence Directorate, or ISI.

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  77. The ISI, not a rouge agency of the Pakistani military, no, it truly represents the interests of the Pakistani government.

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  78. WIO said,
    "If Obama (sorry I cap'd his name, no respect intended) sees that he is not going to get the election victory? He will go out with a bang...

    What most dont see is that obama and company has not slowed down on regulations, thousands and thousands of new reg's are being released by the WH with the intent on changing America into Amerika.

    Most are unseen by the general public.

    It will take at least decade to undo what obama has wrought...
    "

    Limbaugh talked of all the Leftoid Fascist Freaks that have been installed in the bureaucracies and will be there for a decade.

    Wish I knew more about the mechanics of that nightmare, all I know for sure is that when Clinton came in, he purged all the repub lawyers, then when Wimpy Bush came in, he left most of them there!

    New Tone

    Like a Big Fart Across the Landscape.

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  79. As reported in haaretz, off the Reuters and AP line:



    Remarks by the Turkish prime minister to the Arab League receive a warm reception during Erdogan's three-day visit to Egypt.

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  80. I'm voting for Obama like Rufus, and for the same reason:

    Subsidies for solar.

    I signed my SSI check over to Solyndra this morning.

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  81. Saying she had a "fetish" for black men implies a serial usage of them as a sexual stimulant. One black man does not make a fetish.

    A fetish is when you are stimulated by an inanimate object, or part of a human, like when you have a leg fetish (guilty as charged). This implies black men aren't fully human.

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  82. 1.
    an object regarded with awe as being the embodiment or habitation of a potent spirit or as having magical potency.
    2.
    any object, idea, etc., eliciting unquestioning reverence, respect, or devotion: to make a fetish of high grades.
    3.
    Psychology . any object or nongenital part of the body that causes a habitual erotic response or fixation.


    A sexual fetish is not to be conflated with serial sexual events.

    Again, ignorance of the proper use of the English language is excused

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  83. The Toronto Star reports:


    The book also details how Palin allegedly had a six-month affair with Todd’s friend and business partner Brad Hanson and how Palin and Todd experimented with cocaine use, adding that Palin was seen snorting cocaine off an overturned oil drum while snowmobiling, ...

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  84. Driving that train, high on cocaine, Sarah Palin is ready, watch your speed.
    Trouble ahead, trouble behind, and you know what notion just crossed my mind. ...

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  85. .

    The Tigers just won their 12th staight ball game, their longest winning streak since 1934. They came from behind again to do it and Valverde struck out the side in the 10th.

    Go Tigers.

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  86. Ian Kennedy was unable to record his 20th win, but the D-backs would not be denied. Gerardo Parra hit a tying homer and scored the winning run in the 10th on a third straight walk by L.A. reliever Javy Guerra as Arizona cut its magic number to six.

    87-62, Best in the NL West.

    Another reason to live in Phoenix, if you're a baseball fan.

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  87. .

    The US is duty bound, by the Constitution, to not support such things.

    Rat, you jump all over the map. First you argue giving money to states that have an official religion is bad. Then you argue that it is constitutionally illegal. Then you argue it is our 'duty' not to under the constitution.

    Are you offering an opinion or legal advise?

    The Constitution is short. Show me where it says its illegal for for the president to ask for and for the Congress to authroize aid to countries that have an official religion.

    If you want to talk the morals or advisability of doing it that's another thing. Leave the law out of it.

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  88. Rat has a library of alt-Constitutions.

    Be Specific!

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  89. T said ...
    This implies black men aren't fully human.

    Wed Sep 14, 05:04:00 PM EDT


    This business is so disgustingly hypocritical on so many levels.

    Suppose Ms Palin does prefer black men as sexual partners - so what? Is there something WRONG with a white woman coupling with well endowed black man? Does this mean that black studs will soon be coming after the pubescent daughters of Harvard Dons? When will "nigger[s] learn their place and trailer park trash be sent packing with their illegitimate grandchildren?

    We've come a long way baby!

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  90. "Separation of Church and State"

    supersedes ALL Constitutions

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  91. I already did, Q.

    The first amendment.

    Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, ...

    It does not mention any locale where the Congress can establish a religion. Or any agency of the Federals that can.

    It cannot establish one in Iraq, or Afghanistan, or Ohio, for that matter...

    No matter who asks.
    Or why.
    Or what the alternative is.

    Written in plain English, unlike the "Right to Privacy".

    Every one that swears to protect and defend the Constitution, Q, has a duty to it.

    All elected officials so swear, they have a sworn duty to the Constitutional system, a duty that is greater than they owe to themselves.

    That the Federals oft violate the First Amendment, par for the course of empire on which we stay.

    The course has strayed far from that charted by the Founders.

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  92. It is all those things, Q, which is why the arguments can stray, far afield.

    It is wrong, legally, morally and historically, for the US to subsidize Sates with established religions.

    It is repugnant and abhorrent.

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  93. If she went black
    guess she came back

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  94. Another Dirty White Boy

    Reuters) - A gunman who opened fire in an Arkansas judge's office on Tuesday entered the courthouse unopposed while wearing tactical gear and armed with three semi-automatic weapons, authorities said on Wednesday.

    Gunman had concealed carry permit

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  95. .

    Wherever the US military is, that part of the United States.

    Wrong.

    In the case of the military, it's possible US rules may be enforced by force of arms but that does not make it part of the United States.

    Just as US embassies in foreign lands are not "part of the united states" despite the common misconception. Embassies are business offices protected under the Vienna Convention on Diplomatic Relations not under the Constitution.

    Any perks granted to embassy personell are negotiated by treaty not mandated by the US Constitution.

    Your mention of McCain's birth shows nothing more than that he was born in the Panama Canal Zone over which at the time the US held sovereignity under treaty with Panama.

    The impact of the Constitution upon the Federal government certainly does extend beyond the borders of the United States. It is binding upon the Federal government, everywhere.

    Yea, to US citizens. But you still insist that granting foreign aid to countries with official religions is constitutionally illegal. I haven't been able to find anything in the constitution that says that.

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  96. The proscription against establishing a religion, at least as clear as the "Right to Arm Bears"

    A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

    Seems that while the right described may not be infringed, it can be well regulated.

    Or that membership in that well regulated militia could be required, before one could keep and bear Arms, in order to maintain the security of a free State.

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  97. .

    It is wrong, legally, morally and historically, for the US to subsidize Sates with established religions.

    It is repugnant and abhorrent.


    It is wrong? Purely a judgement call although I might agree with you that its wrong.

    Legally? Naw, can't buy it.

    Morally? A whole different discussion and one as you put it is liable to stray far afield.

    Historically? I just don't see the historical precedents.

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  98. .

    The proscription against establishing a religion, at least as clear as the "Right to Arm Bears"

    A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.



    Please rat, no non sequiters, let's stick to the subject at hand.

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  99. That the US held sovereignty to the Canal Zone, a common misconception.

    Money being fungible, aid to a country with an established religion, is the Congress legislating with regards to that religious establishment.

    Which is Constitutionally forbidden, plainly written.

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  100. Maverick, he may have been born on a Navy ship, but I think he was born at Gorgas Army Hospital, Canal Zone, Panama.

    Which was never part of the United States, except by occupation of the US military.

    Especially if you were a Panamanian.

    The Canal Treaty, written in DC and signed by a Frenchman.
    Never ratified by the Panamanians, except at the barrel of a gun.

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  101. There would never been an independent "Panama" except for the US Navy forcing the Colombians to cede the territory.

    So, anyway one looks at it, the US held no sovereignty, in the Canal Zone, except from a practical, operating standpoint.

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  102. I would say that some Republican is putting a shot over Sarah's rather attractive bow, hinting at what will be in store should she step in as a spoiler. Now, who could that be?

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  103. I already did, Q.

    The first amendment.

    Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, ...

    It does not mention any locale where the Congress can establish a religion. Or any agency of the Federals that can
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    We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.



    "...establish this Constitution for the United States of America."

    The Constitution applies to the US and its citizens not to Iraq or Afghanistan or Israel or Egypt.

    When they establish their constitutions and base part of it on religious law, we can say we don't like it, we can make a decision to not offer them aid, but it is not a legal obligation under our constitution. It can be based on our culture, our morals, or our perceived self-interest, but it is not required one way or the other by our constitution.

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  104. The Colombians, not even willing to cede operational control of the Canal Zone.

    That they held initial sovereignty to the area, indisputable.

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  105. I'm not surprised at all that Sarah is a coke fiend. Just look at her now. She's obviously coked up or on meth or some other stimulant. That is clear to anyone who knows about stimulant drugs/uppers.

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  106. The Constitution limits the powers of Congress.

    In this case to legislate regarding the establishment of religion.

    It does not limit that to the United States. The Congress cannot establish a State religion, anywhere.

    That the US did in establish State religions in Iraq and Afghanistan, indisputable.

    The Congress legislating the establishment of Islam, as a State religion, in Iraq and Afghanistan.

    Legislated through the appropriations of the State Department and US military that carried out the mission of establishing Islam as a State religion, in foreign lands.

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  107. The US wrote those countries current Constitutions, Q.

    The Federals were not spectators to those proceedings, no, the US wrote them.

    Then approved the final versions.

    To believe otherwise, revisionist.

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  108. .

    So, anyway one looks at it, the US held no sovereignty, in the Canal Zone, except from a practical, operating standpoint.


    You bring up the most obscure bull rat. As the son of US citizens, McCain would be granted US citizenship anyway. Whether he falls under the definition of a natural born citizen able to run for president is another matter. Most consider him so under law and fairness but it has never been decided by SCOTUS as far as I know.

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  109. As it is told at wiki, which matches my memory of the tale ...


    The U.S. Government created the Isthmian Canal Commission to oversee the construction of the Panama Canal in the early years of American involvement. Established in 1904, it was given control of the Panama Canal Zone over which the United States exercised sovereignty. The commission reported directly to Secretary of War William Taft.

    Much like the Israeli maintain their sovereignty in Gaza.

    The US declared that it exercised sovereignty and so it did. Run through the War Department.

    Telling.

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  110. William Taft, now there's a real Boner.

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  111. The Canal Zone was bigger than Gaza and pretty much unpopulated.

    Though by the 1960's the US was shooting protestors off the Canal Zone fence, quite near Gorgas Hospital, it happened.

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  112. .

    The US wrote those countries current Constitutions, Q.

    The Federals were not spectators to those proceedings, no, the US wrote them.

    Then approved the final versions.

    To believe otherwise, revisionist.



    Christ rat, they did the same thing for the Japanese constitution. Are you saying that Japan is part of the US. That the US has veto rights over Japanese law. That Japan's constitution is is merely the U.S constitution for Japan.

    Sure the US approved the constitutions in Iraq and Afghanistan. They also had significant input. Were they free to to get everything they wanted. Not likely. The US forced a democracy, something you applaud, it was after that that things went to hell.

    Regardless, of whether those constitutions were identical to that of the US or 180 degrees from it, they would still be those countries constitutions and ours would not impact on them.

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  113. Certainly our actions are covered by our Constitution, Q.

    The winner writes the rules.

    The Congress legislated with respect to the establishment of a religion.

    That is indisputable. That it did so in conjunction with that establishment being in a foreign land, unimportant. It is the actions of the US government that was in violation of our own Constitutional rules of government conduct.

    That they did so across the pond, makes no difference. They legislated with respect to the establishment of a religion.
    Appropriations are legislation with respect to the institutions effected.

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  114. “Religion and government will both exist in greater purity, the less they are mixed together”, James Madison."

    We often hear the statement about how many of our founding fathers were not christians or believers was not backed up with any evidence, but if you do your research and looked up even some quotes, you’d find that 1, maybe 2 of the founding fathers were not believers. The rest believed very firmly in a government built on a Christian foundation.

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  115. French President Nicolas Sarkozy and British Prime Minister David Cameron plan to visit Libya Thursday in a trip that would be the first by foreign leaders since rebels ousted MoaMmar Khadafy, sources said.

    ...

    The two leaders will be accompanied by Bernard-Henri Levy, the French philosopher who championed Libya's revolution and helped convince Sarkozy to back the rebels, several sources said in Paris.

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    French police sources said that 160 officers had been told to get ready for a Wednesday night departure for Libya ahead of the official visit.

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  116. .

    The Constitution limits the powers of Congress.

    In this case to legislate regarding the establishment of religion.

    It does not limit that to the United States. The Congress cannot establish a State religion, anywhere.

    That the US did in establish State religions in Iraq and Afghanistan, indisputable.

    The Congress legislating the establishment of Islam, as a State religion, in Iraq and Afghanistan.

    Legislated through the appropriations of the State Department and US military that carried out the mission of establishing Islam as a State religion, in foreign lands.



    Jeez rat, this is called war and reconstruction. It falls under the foreign policy provisiosns of the Constitution.

    The US didn't establish a state religion in these countries, they organized a democratic process, one you have stated is every man's right to live under, and then acceeded to the Afghans and Iraqis decisions (not forced or mandated by the US) to set up a state religion.

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  117. .

    Rat, if you are saying that the US by design wrote constitutions for Iraq and Afghanistan with the intent of establishing Islam as the state religion in these countries, I would have to say that you are losing it.

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  118. .

    As far as your comments on the Panama Canal Zone. Interesting history but irrelevant to subject at hand.

    The US government maintained sovereignity over the the Panama Canal Zone when McCain was born. It held it under terms of the Hay–Bunau-Varilla Treaty. A treaty recognized by US law.

    You can say the treaty was worthless and the US occupied the Canal Zone by force of arms. But this was 1903 and the US was riding high. How many other US treaties signed back in those days would you say were shams?

    More importantly, who would give a shit?


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  119. Cherokee Indians: We are free to oust blacks

    This story has been up for at least three days and our champion of the “Laws of Nations” has had nothing to say. He has had plenty to say about a foreign country besieged by its Muslim/Arab neighbors, however.

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  120. Commenting on the subject of minority rights in the potential Palestinian state, PLO envoy to the U.S. says past experience shows the two people should be 'totally separated.'

    Sooo … Hmm … Those poor downtrodden Palestinians get to have a state that is Judenfrei. The Jewish state, however, would have to maintain the rights of its Palestinian “citizens”. T and DR are going to love this. Me … not so much … sauce for the goose should be sauce for the gander.

    With hundreds of thousands of empty former arab-Israeli properties fresh on the market, some of the complaints of Israel’s protestors could be met.

    It is a win-win.

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  121. Police said Wednesday they are searching for a truck loaded with 3,000 gallons of gasoline that was stolen from a lot in northeastern Maryland.

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    Alger Oil services Maryland's Harford County and upper Eastern Shore, northern Delaware and southern Pennsylvania.

    Residents were advised to contact local police if they spot the truck -- license plate number 310E03 -- or have any information that could help in the search.

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  122. When are you right-wingers going to wake up to the fact that you don't "love America" any more than people on the left. Nor are you "more Christian". Don't you know it's all republican party marketing strategy?

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  123. Sure Oppo, the Left loves America, that's why Obama does nothing but apologize for her greatness.

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  124. T and DR are going to love this. Me … not so much … sauce for the goose should be sauce for the gander.

    ::shrug::

    Been there, done that. Population transfer was a key plank of Zionism even before the War of Independence. Today we call it ethnic cleansing.

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  125. Barack Obama figured Solyndra would be able to generate energy from all the sunshine coming out of his ass after the 2008 election.

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  126. US District Judge Nancy Edmunds later reprimanded him, saying, "If you are asked to stand to address the jurors or address the court, you need to stand. Is that understood?"

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    "We are looking for people ... who are fair, objective and impartial," she said, according to The Detroit News.

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    As part of heightened security measures put in place for the proceedings, a bomb-sniffing dog swept the floor of the downtown Detroit courthouse where Edmunds' courtroom is located, and a metal detector was placed outside the courtroom.

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  127. Jimmy Carter to back Palestinian bid for statehood at UN

    Obama to declare dreidel official toy of Christmas

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  128. Ms T: Been there, done that. Population transfer was a key plank of Zionism even before the War of Independence. Today we call it ethnic cleansing.


    And yet the facts speak for themselves...

    1. Israel has more arabs today than lived in the entire area in 1948, Arabs are fullcitizens of the state and make up a full 20% of the population.

    2. Israeli leaders begged arabs to stay and become citizens of the new state.

    3. The only ethnic cleansing that the zionists have done was to the jews of the gaza strip, 8,500 forcefully removed from their homes. Israel also did the same to Jews living in the sinai.

    4 the arab world, shows up what ethnic cleansing really is... over 600,000 jews were completely cleansed from their historic homes thru out the middle east, these dated back over 2600 years, a full one thousand years before the arabs migrated out of arabia.

    the israel haters will always create fiction from lies. notice how she says a KEY plank of zionism was ethnic cleansing...

    and yet israel's official languages? hebrew and arabic...

    not to good a job for KEY plank....

    but then again, I do not except much from Ms T, except distortions and lies...

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  129. rat --

    I would have to say that you are losing it.

    Quirk

    That mo fucker rat lost it all at birth.......


    THE TRILLION MINTER

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