COLLECTIVE MADNESS


“Soft despotism is a term coined by Alexis de Tocqueville describing the state into which a country overrun by "a network of small complicated rules" might degrade. Soft despotism is different from despotism (also called 'hard despotism') in the sense that it is not obvious to the people."

Saturday, April 12, 2008

'Distrustful have-nots' and 'bitter in Pennsylvania' - Obama

Small town Pennsylvania: Pottstown.

Obama: some Pennsylvanians 'bitter'

BY MICHAEL SAUL
DAILY NEWS POLITICAL CORRESPONDENT
Saturday, April 12th 2008, 4:00 AM

Barack Obama described small-town Pennsylvanians as "bitter," distrustful have-nots who "cling to guns or religion" - prompting his foes to accuse him of being a condescending snob.

During a private fund-raiser last weekend in San Francisco, Obama said "the jobs have been gone now for 25 years" in a lot of small towns.
"They fell through the Clinton administration and the Bush administration, and each successive administration has said that somehow these communities are gonna regenerate. And they have not," Obama continued in the riff first reported by the Huffington Post Web site.

"And," he concluded, "it's not surprising then that they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy toward people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations."
The remarks could be political dynamite, with the Keystone State voting in just 10 days.

"Pennsylvanians don't need a President who looks down on them. They need a President who stands up for them, who fights for them, who works hard for your futures, your jobs, your families," Clinton blasted.

"As I travel around Pennsylvania, I meet people who are resilient, who are optimistic, who are positive, who are rolling up their sleeves," she added. "They are working hard every day for a better future, for themselves and their children."

Steve Schmidt, a senior McCain adviser, described Obama's statement as "remarkable" and "extremely revealing."

"It shows an elitism and condescension towards hardworking Americans that is nothing short of breathtaking," Schmidt said. "It is hard to imagine someone running for President who is more out of touch with average Americans."

Obama stood by his comments and shot back at McCain - and Clinton.
"She says I'm out of touch? No, I'm in touch," he told voters in Indiana last night. His point, Obama said, was that "working-class people" are "frustrated and for good reason." He did not explain his remarks that they are hostile to "people who aren't like them."


58 comments:

  1. I heard that he is looking at a Pennsylvania (Ave) house.

    The guy has been so smooth throughout the campaign. He almost walks on water but you know he's human and according to some, he's the most left wing member of Congress, so at his core is an elitist. Big deal, aren't we all to some degree, somedays more than others?

    On that particular day in San Francisco Barack was sitting with a group and he regurgitated the 2004 political science theory about"2004 God, Guns and Gays" theory.

    Barack is an interesting character. One wonders if he feels more at home in the salons of San Francisco than he does in the mean streets of Chicago or the small towns of Pennsylvania.

    Possibly he feels most at home in Washington D.C. where he want to move to that big house on Pennsylvania Avenue.

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  2. I wish the debate were about who had a plan to re-industrialize the US and create a trading nation with a surplus. It would be good to have a country that exported capital. None of the three have a clue as to how to do that.

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  3. Obama said:
    "They fell through the Clinton administration and the Bush administration, and each successive administration has said that somehow these communities are gonna regenerate. And they have not," Obama continued in the riff first reported by the Huffington Post Web site.

    I doubt these communities were started and developed by the Federal Government.

    Economies are always changing and since the industrial revolution changes have come more rapidly. Historically, people became anchored with the advent of farming. Commerce flourished around farming communities. Now that America has left the farm, it may need to once "follow the game." Nanny statism has attempted and largely failed to maintain those populations in place. During the Great Depression, people moved for work or subsisted in place. The Great Society, with the best of intentions, maintained millions in poverty.

    Obama seems to blame previous administrations for failing to take care of those small town economies. Offering a more affordable cost of living, small town America has potential as retirement alternates for the boomer generation. I read recently that in modest housing, retirees can live quite well on $2,000 a month in Costa Rica. Small town America should be able to compete with that. There are plenty of attractive small towns in America that could be rejuvenated. The problem is that in America, some people think everyone is entitled to enjoy a country club lifestyle. Unfortunately, too many who think that way have the power to legislate taxes but lack the foresight to see that those same taxes reduce affordability.

    "And," he concluded, "it's not surprising then that they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy toward people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations."

    Hmm. Obama is more of a free trade type guy than he can let on to be.

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  4. 2164th: I wish the debate were about who had a plan to re-industrialize the US and create a trading nation with a surplus. It would be good to have a country that exported capital. None of the three have a clue as to how to do that.

    It's easy. Match the Chinese tariff for tariff.

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  5. We won't be matching Columbia tariff for tariff now that the Dems have trashed that:

    Did Obama miss that vote?
    How 'bout Hill?
    ...lot's of ex-Clinton team members have supported sanity re: Columbia, but Hill and Barry are pursuing the PA Union Vote.

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  6. How ICE spends their time, and our money, as millions of felons and gangbangers are overlooked/given protection:

    Legal Immigrants, Until They Sought Citizenship

    SELINSGROVE, Pa. — Dr. Pedro Servano always believed that his journey from his native Philippines to the life of a community doctor in Pennsylvania would lead to American citizenship.

    But the doctor, who has tended to patients here in the Susquehanna Valley for more than a decade, is instead battling a deportation order along with his wife.

    The Servanos are among a growing group of legal immigrants who reach for the prize and permanence of citizenship, only to run afoul of highly technical immigration statutes that carry the severe penalty of expulsion from the country. For the Servanos, the problem has been a legal hitch involving their marital status when they came from the Philippines some 25 years ago.

    Largely overlooked in the charged debate over illegal immigration, many of these are long-term legal immigrants in the United States who were confident of success when they applied for naturalization, and would have continued to live here legally had they not sought to become citizens.

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  7. Trish,
    How about Fisking this trashing of Uribe for the patrons of EB?

    (all others welcome also, of course.)

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  8. 'Report on Sept. 6 strike to show Saddam transferred WMDs to Syria'

    THE JERUSALEM POST
    Apr. 7, 2008

    An upcoming joint US-Israel report on the September 6 IAF strike on a Syrian facility will claim that former Iraqi president Saddam Hussein transferred weapons of mass destruction to the country, Channel 2 stated Monday.

    Furthermore, according to a report leaked to the TV channel, Syria has arrested 10 intelligence officials following the assassination of Hizbullah terror chief Imad Mughniyeh.
    .
    .
    http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1207486215610&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FPrinter
    ..
    Why do I get the feeling that Trish knows very little that we don't?

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  9. OBAMA EXPLAINS GROWING SMALL TOWN AMERICA RESENTMENTS: '

    "And it's not surprising then they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations."

    Yeah, like BLACK People in the SMALL TOWN of Los Angeles don't particularly like the ethnic cleansing being applied to them by "immigrants," with the full protection of the "pro-immigrant" one time Gang Banger, and presently gang-friendly administration.

    ...so Barry panders to Latinos by ignoring that, while lying about skyrocketing hate crimes against hispanics.

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  10. (the next video after that covers Barry's SF Comments)

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  11. Football. Obama forgot to mention that they cling to football.

    Western Pennsylvania: Where big hair, hoop earrings, and his and her Starter jackets never went out of style.

    It's not nice to insult small town Americans (one of them will eventually get around to poisoning your dog) but neither should they be unduly flattered. Leave that business to the C & W songwriters.

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  12. they cling to.... religion or antipathy toward people who aren't like them or.... or anti-trade sentiment....Obama


    I'm not awake yet, but I must be missing something.

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  13. It's Col-O-mbia.

    How to remember this?

    It is pronounced Col-O-mbia.

    Say it with me: Col-O-mbia.

    Say it one more time - Col-O-mbia - and you won't again confuse it with the university or the city in South Carolina or the fine District of.

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  14. We're stuck in the past Here, hanging on to our God, our guns, our ghosts, and our anti-trade ways.

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  15. That was a true cackle eruption. She's standing there dour as hell, then boom, a real cackle eruption!

    By the way, no one has ever found that any of the theologians of middle ages ever sat around discussing how many angels can dance on the head of a pin. The answer, I read one time, in Mortimer Adler, involved whether or not one affirmed that angels occupied space when they manifest in our dimension, but I can't recall what his conclusion was.

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  16. How many fabrications can Hillary dance with with on any one topic?

    Can you prick an angel with a pin?


    Dorothy L. Sayers argued that the question was "simply a debating exercise" and that the answer "usually adjudged correct" was that "angels are pure intelligences, not material, but limited, so that they have location in space, but not extension."[5] Sayers compares the question to that of how many people's thoughts can be concentrated upon a particular pin at the same time. The answer, therefore, is that an infinity of angels can be located on the head of a pin, since they do not occupy any space there.

    Sayers concludes,

    The practical lesson to be drawn from the argument is not to use words like "there" in a loose, unscientific way, without specifying whether you mean "located there" or "occupying space there."[6]


    [edit] Further reading
    T. Koetsier and L. Bergmans (editors), Mathematics and the Divine: A Historical Study, Ch.13 by Edith Sylla (review)
    Philip Howard (1983), Words Fail Me, summary of correspondence in The Times on the matter
    In the lyrics of the Copper Tree song, Let Me In
    The song Careless, by Australian singer-songwriter Paul Kelly (musician)

    [edit] References
    ^ The Catholic Encyclopedia states: St. Thomas does not discuss the question "How many angels can dance on the point of a needle?" He reminds us that we must not think of angels as if they were corporeal, and that, for an angel, it makes no difference whether the sphere of his activity be the point of a needle or a continent (Q. lii, a.2). (Article "Thomism" by D.J. Kennedy.)
    ^ More precisely, in play in the seventeenth century, and discussed at various levels by the Cambridge Platonists Cudworth and Henry More, and Leibniz.
    ^ J. Franklin, Heads of Pins in: Australian Mathematical Society Gazette, vol. 20, N. 4, p. 127.
    ^ G. MacDonald Ross, Angels in: Philosophy, vol. 60, 1985, pp. 499–515.
    ^ Dorothy Sayers, "The Lost Tools of Learning," available at http://www.gbt.org/text/sayers.html.
    ^ Dorothy Sayers, "The Lost Tools of Learning," available at http://www.gbt.org/text/sayers.html.

    [edit] External links

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  17. Threats against trade unionists and human rights activists have decreased substantially in the past five years, something like 75%.

    As the armed forces have been more professionalized, reliance on paras has decreased substantially as well. The Colombian Army is one *serious* motherfucking institution. And the next president is likely its current head.

    There are few substantial tariffs on Colombian goods entering the States. Where the significant tariffs remain is in imports from the US, so pushback on the part of trade unionists here (with which our own commiserate) is not a surprise. The Colombian govt itself is pursuing a kind of mercantilism now that the trade agreement will go some way in undoing.

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  18. Bobal: How many angels can dance on the point of a needle?" He reminds us that we must not think of angels as if they were corporeal, and that, for an angel, it makes no difference whether the sphere of his activity be the point of a needle or a continent

    The truth about angels is this: A long time ago the Hebrews had a god called Yahweh who was a lot like the other gods the people around them had. He walked in the garden, talked to people, dined with Abraham, wrestled with Jacob, went down to see what the people were building at Babel, etc. As time went on, the Hebrew idea of Yahweh evolved into a totally transcendent God, and every place where Yahweh was depicted as rolling up his sleeves and interacting with men, they inserted the phrase "the angel of the LORD" which means a theophany or manifestation of God. Sort of like the sharp end of the stick, wielded by a craftsman who remained off stage. Then gradually the angel of the Lord became any number of independent messengers, and a mythology was constructed about how some of these tools remained loyal and others rebelled, and you got your demons and the devil himself.

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  19. As a teenager, bob, I came into a treasure trove of old postcards through my great grandmother. The oldest is, I think, a 1908 and they span the country. Municipal swimming pools, bus stations, engineering wonders, public parks, town halls, geographical exotica, east and west vantages of every main street you can imagine.

    It's what inspired my love of old books and in turn led me to conclude that most everything worth reading in the American language, had been written before the mid-60's.

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  20. Bobal: By the way, no one has ever found that any of the theologians of middle ages ever sat around discussing how many angels can dance on the head of a pin.

    In my school days I would have said the number of angels dancing on the pin approaches infinity as the size of the angels approaches zero.

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  21. When I cleaned my aunt's house out before she moved in with us, we had to get a dumpster. She was a neat and clean lady, and had been a librarian, but she had grown up on a farm, before cars, and she saved everything. She was a wonderful person. But, I scratched my head a little, when I found one sack full of those little plastic clips that holds the bread wrappers tight! Well, my wife and I had a battle royal, cause she wanted to throw everything out. I managed to save quite a lot of stuff, some old postcards included.

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  22. What sort of dancing do angels do, when they dance on the head a pin? Ball room? The Twist? Or, if the are boistrous angels, maybe that dance where the kids go crashing into one another?

    Can angels crash into one another? Maybe they'd just go right through one another.

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  23. When the three beings visited father Abraham under the oaks of Mamre, some Christian theology has it that it was the Trinity in disguise. --

    1 Now the LORD appeared to him by the oaks of Mamre, while he was sitting at the tent door in the heat of the day. 2 When he lifted up his eyes and looked, behold, three men were standing opposite him; and when he saw them, he ran from the tent door to meet them and bowed himself to the earth, 3 and said, “My Lord, if now I have found favor in Your sight, please do not pass Your servant by. 4 “Please let a little water be brought and wash your feet, and rest yourselves under the tree; 5 and I will bring a piece of bread, that you may refresh yourselves; after that you may go on, since you have visited your servant.” And they said, “So do, as you have said.” 6 So Abraham hurried into the tent to Sarah, and said, “Quickly, prepare three measures of fine flour, knead it and make bread cakes.” 7 Abraham also ran to the herd, and took a tender and choice calf and gave it to the servant, and he hurried to prepare it. 8 He took curds and milk and the calf which he had prepared, and placed it before them; and he was standing by them under the tree as they ate.
    9 Then they said to him, “Where is Sarah your wife?” And he said, “There, in the tent.” 10 He said, “I will surely return to you at this time next year; and behold, Sarah your wife will have a son.” And Sarah was listening at the tent door, which was behind him. 11 Now Abraham and Sarah were old, advanced in age; Sarah was past childbearing. 12 Sarah laughed to herself, saying, “After I have become old, shall I have pleasure, my lord being old also?” 13 And the LORD said to Abraham, “Why did Sarah laugh, saying, ‘Shall I indeed bear a child, when I am so old?’ 14 “Is anything too difficult for the LORD? At the appointed time I will return to you, at this time next year, and Sarah will have a son.” 15 Sarah denied it however, saying, “I did not laugh”; for she was afraid. And He said, “No, but you did laugh.”
    16 Then the men rose up from there, and looked down toward Sodom; and Abraham was walking with them to send them off. 17 The LORD said, “Shall I hide from Abraham what I am about to do, 18 since Abraham will surely become a great and mighty nation, and in him all the nations of the earth will be blessed? 19 “For I have chosen him, so that he may command his children and his household after him to keep the way of the LORD by doing righteousness and justice, so that the LORD may bring upon Abraham what He has spoken about him.” 20 And the LORD said, “The outcry of Sodom and Gomorrah is indeed great, and their sin is exceedingly grave. 21 “I will go down now, and see if they have done entirely according to its outcry, which has come to Me; and if not, I will know.”
    22 Then the men turned away from there and went toward Sodom, while Abraham was still standing before the LORD. 23 Abraham came near and said, “Will You indeed sweep away the righteous with the wicked? 24 “Suppose there are fifty righteous within the city; will You indeed sweep it away and not spare the place for the sake of the fifty righteous who are in it? 25 “Far be it from You to do such a thing, to slay the righteous with the wicked, so that the righteous and the wicked are treated alike. Far be it from You! Shall not the Judge of all the earth deal justly?” 26 So the LORD said, “If I find in Sodom fifty righteous within the city, then I will spare the whole place on their account.” 27 And Abraham replied, “Now behold, I have ventured to speak to the Lord, although I am but dust and ashes. 28 “Suppose the fifty righteous are lacking five, will You destroy the whole city because of five?” And He said, “I will not destroy it if I find forty-five there.” 29 He spoke to Him yet again and said, “Suppose forty are found there?” And He said, “I will not do it on account of the forty.” 30 Then he said, “Oh may the Lord not be angry, and I shall speak; suppose thirty are found there?” And He said, “I will not do it if I find thirty there.” 31 And he said, “Now behold, I have ventured to speak to the Lord; suppose twenty are found there?” And He said, “I will not destroy it on account of the twenty.” 32 Then he said, “Oh may the Lord not be angry, and I shall speak only this once; suppose ten are found there?” And He said, “I will not destroy it on account of the ten.” 33 As soon as He had finished speaking to Abraham the LORD departed, and Abraham returned to his place.
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  24. We know how the story ends. After Yahweh was through, the smoke rose from Sodom and Gomorrah 'like smoke rising form a kiln.'

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  25. http://www.maxusability.com/test/Psychiatric_Office_Answering_Machine.mp3

    Answering machine at the shrink's office, compliments of my daughter.:)

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  26. she wanted to throw everything out. I managed to save quite a lot of stuff, some old postcards included.

    Sat Apr 12, 12:42:00 PM EDT

    I think it's my life-long existence as a transient: Never throw anything out that isn't clearly garbage. I have, and others will, thoroughly enjoy going through the "crap" stored in trunks and boxes. My daughter asked for and we left with her our two large boxes of old photos. Everything from a frozen artesian well in late 30's Minn, to a bunch of Marines souped up by Cuervo and Old Milwaukee's Best.

    I also knew, as a suburban kid, that I was watching the demise of an entire midwestern world.

    Reading old phone books and their ads, perusing Farm Journal Cookbooks from the 50's and 60's.

    Pass on everything you can, bob. Always.

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  27. And for God's sake, bring back the attic, please. (One of the Smithsonian's finest exhibits ever was America's Attic. And we've got more to stuff in that attic given the time frame than anyone else.)

    The crawl space is a damned poor substitute.

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  28. Grandpa finally hit some money after WWI when grain prices went way up. Being a sensible man, first thing he did was he bought a big house, and retire, and then, with a shovel dug out a full basement underneath, where I spent much time. I don't know how many hours I spent there, reading the old magazines. Always loved that place. Would like to buy it back, if it ever came on the market, and I had enough money. I used to shovel coal into the furnace. Which heated the water that flowed through the radiatores. Place was always too hot, or too cold, never just right.

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  29. ' have-nots' and '"bitter" in Pennsylvania' -

    Of course Obama should be more precise with his words, being a student of Saul Alinsky, Mr. Obama really meant -

    "They must feel ...so frustrated, so defeated, so lost, so futureless.. in the prevailing system that they are willing to let go of the past"

    see, it's not "have nots and bitter"

    the correct terminology is "frustrated, defeated, lost, & futureless"....in addition to "powerless, captive, subjugated, and oppressed"

    From the perspective of the urban proletariat in San Fran some of you EBers need to -

    1 give up your opiate for the masses
    2 your guns
    3 your xenophobia

    some of you have moved past the religion issue, now all you have to do is give up your weapons for self-defense and your bigotry...then you can be good little collectivists and feed on the teat of the state

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  30. 'Root cellars' in Missouri; and underneath that, the 'storm cellar.'

    I still say the walk-up attic fits us better for the 40 years worth of priceless junk and back issues of National Geographic and Life. That hole in the ground is awful.

    Me, I've saved Foreign Affairs, National Review, Commentary, and Atlantic Monthly. Also Gourmet, which like the others has gone downhill and around the bend in two decades.

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  31. All you need to do, elijah, is give up your cartoonish figures and realize that there is no such force in America as consistent collectivists v. consistent individualists.

    I know plenty of people who'd like to keep their guns and who would vote for more trade protectionism than any current candidate.

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  32. Bobal:Being a sensible man, first thing he did was he bought a big house, and retire, and then, with a shovel dug out a full basement underneath, where I spent much time.

    How many months did it take to get a permit to do that, and who did he have to buy off?

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  33. Trish: I know plenty of people who'd like to keep their guns and who would vote for more trade protectionism than any current candidate.

    Those figures are on the Pat Buchanan cereal box. Populist archaeoconservatists.

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  34. thank you for your unique perspective trish, although it would be cartoonish ideologies (collectivism, marxism, capitalism), not figures

    for example, a cartoonish figure would be "the white devil" - as utilized by James Cone in Black Theology and Black Power (1997).

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  35. "The guy has been so smooth throughout the campaign."

    I don't think he's that smooth at all Whit, just like I don't think McCain ran a good campaign.

    Both just matched the circumstances. People heard what they want to hear.

    Take, for example, the Clinton Bosnia lie. At the same time, Obama had just implicitly admitted in the speech that he had been lying over not hearing anything in his "church."

    One lie went viral, the other didn't. There are external reasons for that.

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  36. "And it's not surprising then they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations."

    Those poor rubes and their false consciousness.

    Before they know it, they might actually wind up at a conspiratorial, racist church.

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  37. :) Back then no one had thought you needed a permit. All you needed was a deed.

    We had a wonderful case here where a guy decided he'd build a house next door to where he grew up, out in the county, in his old parents home, which was falling down. So he did, started building. This was in about 1960.

    County building inspector shows up. "Jensen, you need a building permit."

    "A what?"

    Building inspector comes back two weeks later.

    "Jensen, you need a building permit."

    "I'll think about it."

    So he thinks about it.

    Ends up, Jensen v. The State of Idaho

    Jensen hires old Marcus Ware, an old attorney in Lewiston, long deceased. Marcus always dressed good, and smoked a cigarette in a holder.

    "Your Honor, this is my whole case, on behalf of Mr. Jensen. A man don't need a permit to build a barn to keep his cattle out of the rain, nor a pig shed for his hogs, nor a chicken shed for his chickens. A man don't need a permit to build a house to keep himself out of the rain, out on his own land, in the county. It ain't none of the State's business, out in the county, on his own land."

    Judgement for Jensen. That case is still on the books here, I think, so it's still the law, but only a few of us older folks remember it. The building inspector still preys off the unknowing.

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  38. Those figures are on the Pat Buchanan cereal box. Populist archaeoconservatists.

    Sat Apr 12, 03:09:00 PM EDT

    Paleocons, I believe, was the term coined by Goldberg or somebody at NR.

    I'm not without sympathy. But I'm not one of them.

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  39. Tonite on Coast To Coast--what we have all been waiting for--how to win without conflict--

    America's leading authority on Sun Tzu's The Art of War, Gary Gagliardi, will discuss the ancient Chinese principles of "winning without conflict," how they apply to the shifting situations in Iraq and Afghanistan, and how these ideas can apply to our personal lives. First Hour: Privacy expert Lauren Weinstein will talk about FBI wiretapping.

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  40. Obama is just telling the tale of his PA defeat, beforehand, to a sympathetic audience, in 'Frisco.

    Just as Gov Rendell promised, the racist rubes did him in, just as had Lynn Swann was deserted by both his race and the GOP stalwarts.

    In the end, Swann lost the election with 40% of the vote to incumbent Ed Rendell's 60%

    In a State that Mr Bush lost by 4%.

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  41. of the Swann for Governor effort.

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  42. "the racist rubes did him in"

    Black theology refuses to accept a God who is not identified totally with the goals of the black community. If God is not for us and against white people, then he is a murderer, and we had better kill him. The task of black theology is to kill Gods who do not belong to the black community.... Black theology will accept only the love of God which participates in...

    the destruction of the white enemy.

    What we need is the divine love as expressed in Black Power, which is the power of black people to destroy their oppressors here and now by any means at their disposal. Unless God is participating in this holy activity, we must reject his love.

    "the destruction of the white enemy"

    Now... who are the racist rubes?

    Why does Obama "cling" to this religion?

    The white enemy...wait a minute...are they the captors in the black value system?

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  43. Trish, help me...

    the "white enemy," as Cone writes... are they cartoonish figures?

    or are they real people who should literally be destroyed?

    Have you read Cone?
    -Jeremiah Wright

    "What we need is the divine love as expressed in Black Power, which is the power of black people to destroy their oppressors here and now by any means at their disposal. "
    - Change we can believe in?

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  44. Sure is a load of crap, isn't it? I can imagine how long my pastor would last, saying such things about black folks. About as long as it would take to call a congregational meeting and hold a vote. What is the status of hate crimes legislation in our county anyway, not that I'm for it. A crime's a crime.

    Preaching race war. It's sad, because it makes things worse. Obama may end up making things worse.

    Booker T. Washington talked about black hucksters 100 years ago.

    White hucksters. Black hucksters. Can't stand any of them.

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  45. Breaking news--Obama announces jobs program for 'the bitter people.'

    Obama Unveils Jobs Plan for Bitter Rural People
    by Scott Ott for ScrappleFace · 38 Comments
    (2008-04-12) — Senator Barack Obama today announced a plan to employ millions of bitter, small town Americans who, in their anger over jobs lost in the 1980s, have turned to guns, God, and xenophobia.

    Campaigning in Pennsylvania, Sen. Obama said his new proposal addresses remarks made this week at a San Francisco fundraiser, during which he said, “You go into these small towns in Pennsylvania and, like a lot of small towns in the Midwest, the jobs have been gone now for 25 years and nothing’s replaced them. And they fell through the Clinton administration, and the Bush administration, and each successive administration has said that somehow these communities are gonna regenerate and they have not. And it’s not surprising then they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren’t like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations.”

    The presumptive Democrat presidential front runner, said his plan would employ “these Archie Bunker-type people” in government programs “to register and/or confiscate inappropriate personal firearms, to monitor churches for hate-speech about homosexuality or abortion, and to build tax-funded housing for low income illegal aliens.”

    “Twenty-five years is a long time to wallow in bitterness like our friends in Pennsylvania, the Midwest and elsewhere have been doing,” said Sen. Obama, “So, until the steel mills can all be converted to casinos and re-opened, we’ll provide good government jobs at high wages that will soothe the rage, and help to re-educate these small-town folk.”

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  46. I think what Obama is really saying is, those folks in Pennslyvania are peckerwoods.

    He didn't say that about folks in Ideehoo however.

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  48. (She can type.)

    BTW: Good job, aenae.

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  49. Did I spell that right?





    Fuck.

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  50. "..good little collectivists and feed on the teat of the state.."

    LOL. I guess you've never met our Pottstown welfare hicks. I have.

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  51. "welfare"

    is that wealth redistribution or a conduit for economic justice?

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  52. Interesting dichotomy. I wonder if Prof Chompki could parse them subtleties for us.

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  53. A man who is from a small town in Pennslyvania strikes back at Snob-ama

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