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Sunday, April 20, 2008

Democrat Talking Points

Zawahiri says Iraq will become 'fortress of Islam': audio

Fri Apr 18, 10:19 AM ET

Al-Qaeda number two Ayman al-Zawahiri urged Muslims to make Iraq a "fortress of Islam" in an audio message marking the fifth anniversary of the US-led invasion.

In a nearly 16 minute message posted on the Internet, Zawahiri accused Shiite Iran of seeking to annex southern Iraq and slammed the Egyptian government for "starving" its people as part of a "Zionist-American plan

He called on extremists to fight to create a greater Muslim state after US President George W. Bush had admitted the "failure of the Crusader invasion".

"We will only get our rights back with our own hands and not through beggary or fraudulent elections," he said, according to a summary released by the US-based SITE monitoring service.

The message posted on Islamist militant websites contained a reference to April 8 testimony to the US Congress by the US commander in Iraq, General David Petraeus.

"Bush declared that he will give Petraeus all the time he needs ... which allows Bush to escape the decision to withdraw forces. By passing the problem to the next president, Bush is declaring the failure of the Crusader invasion of Iraq," Zawahiri said.

He mocked the US-backed Sunni Arab local groups formed to fight Al-Qaeda in Iraq.

"So where are the Awakening Councils that Petraeus announced six months ago will achieve victory in Iraq? ... Are these Awakening Councils in need of someone to defend them and protect them?" Zawahiri asked.

On Thursday, a suicide bomber blew himself up in a crowd mourning two members of one of the councils, killing at least 51 people in one of the biggest insurgent attacks this year.

"Very soon Iraq will become the fortress of Islam, wherefrom will start missions and brigades for the liberation of Al-Aqsa Mosque" in Jerusalem, said Zawahiri, considered the leading ideologist of the Sunni organisation.

"Iran has clear goals, which is the annexation of southern Iraq and the east of the (Arabian) Peninsula, and to expand in order to be able to communicate with its followers in southern Lebanon," Zawahiri said.

He said a plot against Iraq by the United States and Iran would lead to the Middle East region exploding.

"If an understanding with it (Iran) is reached on the basis of accomplishing all or some of its goals in return for keeping a blind eye on the American hegemony in the area, this understanding will add fuel to the fire ... The situation will explode an already enflamed region," Zawahiri said.

While Zawahiri lambasted Iran, a senior hardline cleric there was trumpeting what he said should be the Shiite country's role in defending Islam.

"In a not so distant future, we should reach a point of having the most powerful military equipment in the world so that no one even think about invading our borders," Ayatollah Ahmad Jannati said in a Friday prayer sermon.

"And not only that of the Islamic republic, but also the borders of Islam ... We must defend oppressed Muslims everywhere so that the enemies do not dare to attack Afghanistan, Palestine and Iraq."

Meanwhile, Osama bin Laden's top lieutenant referred to clashes between protesters and police in the Egyptian industrial city of Mahallah earlier this month, implicitly accusing the Egyptian government of conniving with Israel and the United States to keep the Hamas-run Gaza Strip under siege.

"Those who steal the livelihood of the people of Egypt are those who are denying food to the people of Gaza under the pretext of suspect international commitments with the Jews and the Americans," he said.

"In so doing, Israel achieves monopoly over supplies to Gaza to force its people to surrender to their conditions," Zawahiri said in the audio attributed to him.

"Starving the people of Egypt .... is part of a Zionist-American plan."

It was Zawahiri's second audio message this month. On April 2, he launched a blistering attack on the United Nations. He also said that bin Laden, who like him has evaded capture, was still alive.


117 comments:

  1. ""Starving the people of Egypt .... is part of a Zionist-American plan.""
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    The only thing worse than a F...... Joo is an AMERICAN JOO!

    Just ask the Black Messiah, or his preacher, the REVERERND Wright.

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  2. Another Democratic delegate arrested - the woman arrested for the hoax call to police on the Texas polygamy compound is an Obama delegate

    Rozita Swinton, the woman arrested for falsely tipping off the police that she was an abused child bride at the FLDS polygamy cult in Texas, is a pledged Barack Obama delegate. It was her initial false report that started the investigation which has led to the removal of 400 children from their parents' custody. Swinton has a history of filing false police reports, according to this account. The Jawa Report has more.

    Rogues gallery of Dem delegates:

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  3. Doug: Rozita Swinton, the woman arrested for falsely tipping off the police that she was an abused child bride at the FLDS polygamy cult in Texas, is a pledged Barack Obama delegate.

    Okay, that's what she has to do with Obama, but what does Obama have to do with her? The sun is none the worse for shining on a dunghill.

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  4. Re: Doug's link.

    Texas may have "stepped into it" again. First, the Texas sodomy case which went all to the way to the US Supreme Court and now this.

    Once a society throws out its underlying, long-held moral suppositions and the foundation for its laws, anything goes.

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  5. What does Tes have to do with the Elephant Club?

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  6. Oh there are most definitely some Republican talking points in there. 5K in gold to the barfly that can find them.

    Shorter Zawahiri: No matter how you cut it, sons of donkey bottom wipers, Iraq is the Big Sticky. I fart in your general direction.

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  7. Next message from bin Laden: Something about "bitterness" and its manifest causes.

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  8. A lengthy video spiel on God and guns, maybe. Wearing a Dale Earnhardt hat.

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  9. Mətušélaḥ: What does Tes have to do with the Elephant Club?

    I was here at the beginning. At times I have been a proprietor with the power to initiate new threads, and I have been a member of the board of directors, sometimes with an oak leaf cluster.

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  10. "Iran has clear goals, which is the annexation of southern Iraq and the east of the (Arabian) Peninsula, and to expand in order to be able to communicate with its followers in southern Lebanon," Zawahiri said.

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  11. "Very soon Iraq will become the fortress of Islam, wherefrom will start missions and brigades for the liberation of Al-Aqsa Mosque" in Jerusalem, said Zawahiri, considered the leading ideologist of the Sunni organisation

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  12. The little dog jumps through Trish's hoops.

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  13. They DO have the Mutt and Jeff thing down pretty well, the two of them.

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  14. Now I just have to remember where I buried it. That may take some time, whit.

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  15. "I was here at the beginning. At times I have been a proprietor with the power to initiate new threads, and I have been a member of the board of directors, sometimes with an oak leaf cluster."

    Now apply that argument to your question about Obama and Rozita Swinton.

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  16. Metuselah: Now apply that argument to your question about Obama and Rozita Swinton.

    I'm a lazy bowler. You apply the argument. Try using logic. You set up the pins, and I'll choose my favorite bowling ball.

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  17. Maybe it was a lifetime of chores on the family farm that accounts for Edna Parker's long life. Or maybe just good genes explain why the world's oldest known person will turn 115 on Sunday, defying staggering odds.

    .
    .

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080418/ap_on_he_me/oldest_human_research

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  18. I have a bar tab! In that case, I'll take a Chimay. And a plate of wings.



    I read a really good piece in the WaPo, a few weeks old, on the Mexican drug cartels. We're throwing 500M at the problem. If I were the Mexican government, I'd immediately put most of that into the pockets of the police. Ain't no gettin' around having to outspend the cartels on that end. Call it hazard pay.

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  19. Re: Trish and Chait.

    Did you read the original George C. Will collumn (before you read Chait)?

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  20. Trish: I read a really good piece in the WaPo, a few weeks old, on the Mexican drug cartels. We're throwing 500M at the problem. If I were the Mexican government, I'd immediately put most of that into the pockets of the police. Ain't no gettin' around having to outspend the cartels on that end. Call it hazard pay.

    Some do it for money, some do it for love of money, some do it just for love:

    A former U.S. border guard convicted of letting drugs into the United States in exchange for sex with a British Columbian prostitute was sentenced to nearly three years in prison Monday.

    Desmond Bastian, 31, a U.S. citizen who lived in Surrey, B.C., and worked as a U.S. Customs and Immigration Enforcement inspector, allowed the woman to drive through the Blaine crossing while carrying large loads of marijuana and other drugs.

    According to the woman's testimony at Bastian's trial, she would lift her skirt and bare her breasts while being waved through the border station, and would often meet Bastian afterward for sex.

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  21. Bob,


    I added some comments about posting photos on Whit's earlier On the Move post. I posted a sample photo here. This is for eductaion purposes only.

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  22. Teresita said...
    Doug:
    "Which is why I was offended by your reference to my post about another posters Child Porn as an "ad hominem" attack. I was simply reporting the truth about the poster."
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    "No it was off-topic, ad hom, and there's no evidence so you were just making shi'ite up."
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    No, you are a LIAR as well as a child pornographer.

    No wonder you're voting for the racist, anti-semetic, free lunch for illegals, socialist/fascist, phoney, LIAR.

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  23. No, Doug, I didn't. But I didn't enjoy the Chait piece for its jab at Will, rather for remarking upon the bald, "competitive flattery" of small town Americans, as if they were inherently virtuous. This is especially conspicuous and cringe-inducing when dished out by a political class for whom, as with most of the rest of the country, the spaces in between are simply a kind of living museum that makes for interesting forays on nice fall weekends. Local color and authenticity and all that. It's like going to Europe. Same idea, only cheaper and no TSA hassle.

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  24. Well for God's sake, please don't fuck with Doug today, T. He's in a mood.

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  25. ...and a perfect DIVERSION from the blatent racism and complete phonieness of the Black Messiah.
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    (for those who choose to spend their time reading and propagating left-wing pseudo-intellectual trash.)

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  26. That's it,
    Wright, Obama, et al, were just having a *bad mood day* when they appeared to be racist liars.

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  27. Matthew Continetti says what I said, only more elaborately:

    [...]

    Why did Pelosi move to let the Colombia deal die? Politics. It's an election year. The Democrats need union money, and the unions oppose free trade. Democratic presidential candidates go from coast to coast telling audiences that free trade has devastated our economy. This is nonsense. But it wouldn't look too good if the Democratic Congress belied this irresponsible, hostile-to-foreigners, belligerent--one might say, unilateralist--rhetoric.

    There's another reason, too: President Bush. Congress has now rejected the White House's two legislative priorities in 2008: a reform in the eavesdropping law that includes immunity for telecommunications firms and the CFTA. Congress's top priority is to make sure voters perceive the Bush presidency as a failure. They may think they are well on their way to achieving this goal. That in both of these matters the Democrats' hatred of Bush will redound to the benefit of enemies of the United States seems not to concern them in the least.

    --Matthew Continetti, for the Editors

    He only neglects to add that the elections will eventually be over, and Bush will eventually be gone.

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  28. Well exuse me for not having my ear up Hewitt's and Ingraham's asses all the time, Doug.

    Back to our role as political hall monitor are we?

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  29. Sun Apr 20, 04:50:00 PM EDT
    "Doug" = Cutler

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  30. Want me to print up a certificate and make you a badge?

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  31. Child porn, OK
    Lying, OK
    Racism, Antisemitism, OK
    Seditious Reconquistadores on Welfare, OK
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    Hey, I'm a Librarian!

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  32. Great, as long as you wear a Terminal Denier Badge.

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  33. Bob, please come humor Doug.

    I'm gonna go read me some Wolcott.

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  34. Right, and I was studying the picture intensely, and when I clicked the mouse, it enlarged(I like that feature) and I was able to view the little logo on her firm little behind, right up close. Thank you, deuce.

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  35. She has a little Three Pronged Logo of some kind right, well, there.

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  36. I'll take the red Chimay. I once paid eight dollars for a glass of it at the Delaware shore. I trust your prices are more reasonable - like "fell off the back of the truck" reasonable.

    Sorry, cutler, I'm Doug-fixated. But he knows that.

    Speaking of: It's only the merest suggestion, T, but it's probably best for you not to engage, even indirectly, meltdown habu(s) at Belmont. That's what nahncee's for.

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  37. That's humoring all right, bob.

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  38. I see Wretchard got around to it before I did.

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  39. It looks as if Habu, innocent of infractions, removed his profile from blogger.

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  40. O man, that made me dizzy almost. OOOhhh, I don't think I could walk that.

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  41. Trish, Bob was responding to a training session on posting photos a couple of threads previous to this one. That was not posted per your request. Do not want to get Bob in trouble.

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  42. Trish: Speaking of: It's only the merest suggestion, T, but it's probably best for you not to engage, even indirectly, meltdown habu(s) at Belmont. That's what nahncee's for.

    As far as I'm concerned, Nahncee is Habu in a skirt.

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  43. I'm still in training. There is a little pink thread line there, right under the logo, if you look closely, as I have been doing.

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  44. Bobal is that you posting the hawtie with the nice posterior down the blog a ways?

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  45. That was not posted per your request. Do not want to get Bob in trouble.

    Sun Apr 20, 06:55:00 PM EDT

    Bob, you sorry ass, you.




    You know I couldn't make a climb like that any longer, sam, though I'd love to. I started developing vertigo in my late twenties.

    Habu in a skirt. Yeah, well, he's worn just about everything else.

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  46. Don't know what a hawtie is, T., but I have been taking a good look at the girl with the wonderful buns.


    Re Whit's 2:05

    I think I'll stay a little to the north, on my trip. Honestly, I'm just too old for any kind of excitement. Mexico is a country I always thought about visiting. My dad and brother did. But it is off my list, now.

    Close that border. We don't need the problems.

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  47. Your search - hawtie--definition - did not match any documents.

    Hawtie ain't a word.

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  48. You should go to Mexico, Bob. There's a lot of neat things to see. I've been a few times.

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  49. Haughty is a word.



    Definition Of Word

    haugh·ty (hôt)
    adj. haugh·ti·er, haugh·ti·est
    Scornfully and condescendingly proud. See Synonyms at proud.

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    [From Middle English haut, from Old French haut, halt, alteration (influenced by Frankish hh, high) of Latin altus, high; see al-2 in Indo-European roots.]

    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    haughti·ly adv.
    haughti·ness n.

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  50. Yes, I'd like to make that climb also, Trish. I think it would be o.k. They've got that cable to hang on to all the way up it looks like.

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  51. Too scary, Sam. I've heard too many stories. A guy I know here, went with his wife, and two cousins or something. They split up, the two girls got raped by the Federales, then let go. Got raped in a van, by the Federal Police, then let go.

    No thanks. Plenty of stuff to see right here in the good ol' US of A.

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  52. Actually yeah, my dad had a story also. He was asking for it 'though.

    Drove down to Zihuatenejo from Seattle by himself in a van with a bunch of new white goods in the back for some friends who had just bought a condo down there.

    Long story.

    Went through a town, banditos up on the cliff spotted him. Truck pulled out in front of him as he was exiting the town. Went around a corner, tree in the middle of the road, forced him to pull over to the pull-out, banditos pull up behind, got out, one on each side of the car, smith & wesson in dad's temple, shotgun through the passenger window. Said give me all your money, eyeballing the gear in the back. Thought he was a dead man. All of the sudden they started acting nervous and just took off real quick with dad's wallet $500 US.

    Dad thinks a spotter up on the cliff must have seen an approaching car and signalled, or something.

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  53. If you're in a big group I think you're o.k. Was always in groups whenever I went down. Family and friends and what-not.

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  54. Foreign Ministry spokesman Mohammad-Ali Hosseini on Sunday said the UN atomic watchdog Deputy Director General Olli Heinonen will visit Tehran today/tomorrow to continue talks over Iran’s nuclear program.

    ...

    The spokesman backed President Mahmud Ahmadinejad’s recent comments about the Sept. 11 attacks on New York and Washington, saying, “As far as all the aspects of this event are not cleared up, we view it as a suspicious incident.”

    ...

    Referring to the April 22 meeting of Iraq’s neighbors which aims to discuss ways to resolve the country’s security crisis, Hosseini insisted on Iran’s serious efforts to help secure Iraq.


    IAEA Visit Normal

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  55. Those of us with vertigo, sam, understand gravity's truly malign and devious nature. Cable or no cable.

    To the rest of you. Please. Enjoy.

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  56. It just sounds too scary for me. You are at the whim of strangers. You could get 'arrested' on some trumped up deal, have to buy you way out. I say, spend the money in
    America.

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  57. The Greek Orthodox Patriarch in the Holy Land, Theofilos III, told The Associated Press the Armenians are pushing to change the rules, and try to challenge was he said is the dominance of his church in the Holy Land.

    "This behavior is criminal and unacceptable by all means," he said. "They wanted to trespass on the status quo concerning the order that regulates the services between the various communities."

    Last year, pre-Christmas cleaning in the Church of the Nativity turned ugly when robed Greek Orthodox and Armenian priests went at each other with brooms and stones. The Church of the Nativity in Bethlehem — built over Jesus' traditional birth grotto — also falls under the status quo arrangement.


    Jesus' Tomb

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  58. That is a scary story,
    Sam. Really scary.

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  59. tes:

    I was here at the beginning. At times I have been a proprietor with the power to initiate new threads, and I have been a member of the board of directors, sometimes with an oak leaf cluster.


    wow, i am impressed...

    make sure to put that on your resume

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  60. Last year, pre-Christmas cleaning in the Church of the Nativity turned ugly when robed Greek Orthodox and Armenian priests went at each other with brooms and stones.

    I recall Mat and I having a chuckle about that incident.

    Does a broom in the hands of an Orthodox priest constitute a deadly weapon?

    The courts have ruled in the past that a professional fighters hands constitute a deadly weapon.

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  61. Yeah, I know, Bob. He got lucky that time.

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  62. Everyone has their own personal comfort level, bob. When you are in a potentially dangerous place and have the feeling, conscious or not, that you don't belong there, you transmit it to others.

    But yours is not bad advice, bob. Just a lot of factors to be taken into account.

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  63. No, Illinois Sen. Barack Obama hasn't been in the habit of wearing an American flag on his lapel.

    ...

    Meanwhile, Obama literally brushed it all off as the old way of doing things, while both Pennsylvania and national polls appear to suggest that none of it has stuck to him. Indeed, he looks even stronger, said Winograd, a former senior adviser to Vice President Al Gore during the Clinton administration.

    ...

    "My students feel a sense of urgency about the times and the urgency of now," said James Taylor, an associate professor of politics at the University of San Francisco. "They're not interested in personal attack, and much more interested in the hard issues facing the country.


    Rocking the Vote

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  64. What Is A Deadly Weapon? Just a case, showing, these things can get complicated, fast.

    I think it is established law, that the fists of Muhammed Ali(aka Cassius Clay) are deadly weapons.

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  65. The number of major crimes reported in the South Bay and Harbor Area dropped to its lowest level in more than a decade in 2007, but the figure did not reflect what's bothering police most these days - a rise in car break-ins.

    ...

    Carson

    Despite a year in which a gang rivalry escalated into several shootings, major crime dropped in five of the six crime categories. Homicides stayed even with 2006.

    Gardena

    Gardena Police Chief Ed Medrano is very pleased with the nearly 18percent drop in major crime in Gardena.

    Decline in the Area

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  66. WiO: wow, i am impressed...

    make sure to put that on your resume


    Were we talking to you? No? Then STFU.

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  67. Bobal: The courts have ruled in the past that a professional fighters hands constitute a deadly weapon.

    Hoda Korosu, or Naked/Kill, is the martial art practised by master assassin Nicholai Hel in the book Shibumi by Trevanian (published 1979), which allows common objects (plastic cup, magazine) to be used as lethal weapons. Sometimes seen as "the art of improvised weapons" the translation of "naked kill" implies one is dangerous with anything at hand.

    Footnote from Shibumi:

    In the course of this book, Nicholai Hel will avail himself of the tactics of Naked/Kill, but these will never be described in detail. In an early book, the author portrayed a dangerous ascent of a mountain. In the process of converting this novel into a vapid film, a fine young climber was killed. In a later book, the author detailed a method for stealing paintings from any well-guarded museum. Shortly after the Italian version of this book appeared, three paintings were stolen in Milan by the exact method described, and two of these were irreparably mutilated.

    Simple social responsibility now dictates that he avoid exact descriptions of tactics and events which, although they might be of interest to a handful of readers, might contribute to the harm done to (and by) the uninitiated.

    In a similar vein, the author shall keep certain advanced sexual techniques in partial shadow, as they might be dangerous, and would certainly be painful, to the neophyte.

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  68. Thanks, Deuce. But I'll freely admit, not as funny as our Tes trying to strike a pose.

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  70. Deuce,

    Can I exchange my Oak Leaf to a Pine Needles Fsck Cluster?

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  71. Tapis Crude is at $123.00/bbl in Sinapore.

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  72. On Coast To Coast tonight--

    Ian Punnett welcomes Irene Spencer, a fifth generation polygamist who was the second of ten wives and the mother of 14 of her husband's 58 children. Now escaped from the clutches of polygamy, Irene will tell her captivating story.
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    The captivating story of her captivity.

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  73. Bobal: Ian Punnett welcomes Irene Spencer, a fifth generation polygamist who was the second of ten wives and the mother of 14 of her husband's 58 children. Now escaped from the clutches of polygamy, Irene will tell her captivating story.

    It just better not be a story about kids under 18 having boom-boom, or Doug will call Irene a child pornographer.

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  74. I was trying to remember if I've ever had Tapis Crude.

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  75. Trish: I was trying to remember if I've ever had Tapis Crude.

    It's almost pricey enough to be put into the wine section of Metropolitan Market. "Ah yes, a fine bottle of 2008 Tapis Crude."

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  76. T, you really need to stop feeding habu. It's not cute.

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  77. You're not the sucking chest wound. You're the oxygen.

    Cool, if that's what you want.

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  78. There was reported a big find off the coast of Brazil. Haven't seen much more about it, but it sounded like it might be a monster oil find.

    The proposed new nuclear power generating facility down in south Idaho continues to wend it's way through the process of approval. Approve the darned thing, I say, slap it with a rubber stamp.

    We need it

    Like. Yesterday.

    It will provide enough energy to light up all of Idaho, and then some. And we will be getting some ethanol as an added bonus.

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  79. There was this book, The Minds of Billy Milligan...

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  80. We can beat this energy crunch. But we got to get on gettin' her done. And not argue among ourselves over every last thing.

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  81. Who is this Billy Milligan guy? Is my backwoods life style showing through again?

    DNA Tests are ordered for all the little ones at the Texas polygamy compound.

    Makes sense, got to sort things out one way or the other, once you've gone in and busted the game up.

    That seems to be quite the Temple they have built there.

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  82. Members believe a man must marry at least three wives in order to ascend to heaven. Women are taught that their path to heaven depends on being subservient to their husband.

    hehehe-what a scam. Lord Almighty, are people so foolish?

    Well, I quess so, it seems they are.

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  83. What's up with all the women having the same haircut? wtf?

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  84. Although many of the adults and children at the YFZ ranch seemed emotionally healthy, the sect's belief system was "abusive", he added.

    'he' is the fellow from Child Protective Services.

    And then the question becomes of course, how is it 'abusive' if everyone is emotionally healthy?

    Just playing the devils advocate.

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  85. What's up with all the women having the same haircut? wtf?

    clones?

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  86. State officials will not release any medical information about the 416 children in their custody, but one mother, giving her name simply as Sally on CNN's Larry King Live, described her son as "handicapped" and needing hourly care. "One of the mothers raised concerns about her child who had Down Syndrome," TDFPS spokesman Greg Cunningham told TIME in an e-mail.

    "That child has had a medical evaluation and has had one-on-one care." Cunningham says that the children in custody at the Pavilion, part of the city's civic center complex, have one caregiver for every three children.

    A small number of older boys have been moved to the Cal Farley Boy's Ranch in Amarillo, a privately-funded home for needy children.


    Family Tree

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  87. have one caregiver for every three children.

    That number seems to ring a bell.... one to three....ah, now I remember, one husband for every three chicks...

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  88. The arithmetic don't work out. If you got one man and three chicks, you going to have some lonely men, aren't you? What do they do, those lonely men, head to Dallas?

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  89. Back on the COD you're buckled in and told to brace as if for a crash. Whereupon there is a crash.

    The catapult sends you squashed against your flight harness. And just when you think that everything inside your body is going to blow out your nose and navel, it's over.

    You're in steady, level flight.


    Big Stick

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  90. There must be more to this than meets the Child Protective Services eye.

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  91. I don't know. I haven't seen any men to women ratio numbers.

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  92. Members believe a man must marry at least three wives in order to ascend to heaven.

    Well, maybe the answer is found in their definition of 'marry'. I suppose one could 'marry' any number of women one chose, and, long as you keep a loose lease, everybody gets along.

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  93. Maria Susana Espinoza wanted only two children. But it was not until after the birth of her fourth child in six years that she learned any details about birth control.

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    At the Manila garbage dump, Espinoza said she has been lucky.

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    In recent weeks, public alarm in the Philippines over the soaring price of rice has focused attention on the fast-growing population and its dependence on rice imports.


    Filipinos in Poverty

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  94. At the Manila garbage dump, Espinoza said she has been lucky.

    Interviewed at the Manila garbage dump...well it's sad.

    Good night.

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  95. T, you really need to stop feeding habu. It's not cute.

    I have my vengeance. It's a form of verbal judo where you let your opponent over-extend himself by sharpening what kind of nuisance he is. Habu deleted his primary ident. Wretchard is zapping all the baby-Habu posts and is threatening to move Belmont Club to a netforum type environment where he can ban IPs. Some of these people like Habu have probably only been interacting in an online enviroment like the Belmont Club for a few years. I go back to FidoNet in 1993 via a BBS and migrated to email mailing lists and USENET as those things took off in the late 90s, so I know all the tricks.

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  96. Bobal: Interviewed at the Manila garbage dump...well it's sad.

    I've seen that dump, its on the road north from the US embassy along Manila Bay towards Malabon City, where my kin live. This area has a lot of squatters who make their homes out of anything they can find in that dump. You have to see this kind of poverty to believe it. Yet no one goes around feeling sorry for themselves because they don't have a wide screen TV or an SUV. Americans live in their nice homes and don't even know who their neighbors are, and only see their blood kin on Thanksgiving. There is a poverty of interpersonal relationships that Americans don't even realize they have.

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  97. "There is a poverty of interpersonal relationships that Americans don't even realize they have."

    This is true of North America in general. You find the same phenomena in Canada, probably even more so because of the harsh cold climate. I think it has a lot to do with the car culture and the way cities have been designed. Old, more traditionally European American cities like New York Philadelphia Boston Montreal Quebec City, have partly escaped this interpersonal isolationism, but only partially. Their suburbs are the same urban design disaster typical of North American planing.

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  98. There is a poverty of interpersonal relationships that Americans don't even realize they have.

    Yes, I think that is true. How do we overcome this?

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  99. Bob,

    There's been some good discussion on this. TEDtalk has lectures on the topic hosted on their servers. I'm a little pressed for time right now, but I'll come back later with some links for you.

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  100. Bobal: Yes, I think that is true. How do we overcome this?

    It's too late for us old folks. But we can make either two years of military service or two years of full-time community service mandatory, age 19 to 21. No college deferrments, Israel style. The career can wait.

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  101. Members believe a man must marry at least three wives in order to ascend to heaven.

    Steve Miller said, "Sometimes you got to go to hell before you get to heaven."

    Three mothers-in-law. Sheesh.

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  102. It's odd, you know. Other than Mrs. Rogers(yes this is a Rogers neighborhood)down the street, I know Mat and T better than the guy across the street.

    Well, on the other hand though, I have lots of friends in Moscow, which is why I finally stay around here, I quess.

    Community is a good thing. We should all try to reach out as much as we can.

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  104. Ah.
    Se io penso all'Iran ed Iraq ,mi vengono solo in mente dei bei ricordi,contrariamente a molti che le associano ad una probabile minaccia.Conosco due ragazzi che quando avevano 12 anni furono spediti in Europa perche' i loro genitori temevano per la vita di entrambi. Ironia della sorte stessa classe e stesso collegio due popoli, due conflitti, uniti nello stesso destino.
    Io a scuola ero una pessima studentessa, tanto che mia nonna andava a pregare per me affinche' Dio mi facesse studiare.
    Quando fui rimandata in matematica,gli unici che mi aiutarono furono loro ,forse perche' eravamo sempre allegri rispetto ad altri e ci raccontavamo un sacco di storie sui nostri rispettivi paesi....
    Come potrei avere paura di cio' che io conosco? Uno dei due ,Shain che ancora sento, oggi vive in Canada ed e' sposato con tanti bambini....prima quando eravamo piccoli, lui era innamorato di me e per farmi studiare prendeva due autobus,arrivava sotto casa che io dormivo ancora ed io lo facevo aspettare!!!!!!un giorno mi ha regalato una rosa,che ha piegato in tre nella sua giacca era troppo divertente, si vergognava ad andare in giro con un fiore.......
    Credetemi anche gli Iraniani e gli Iracheni hanno un grande senso di spirito e' che basta solo saperli come prendere.
    Se un giorno un giardiniere decidesse di tagliare un albero vecchisssimo perche' diventato oscurante e con i suoi rami anche prepotente , dovrebbe decidere sul metodo. Il giardiniere decide di tagliarlo di netto, questo provoca un enorme frastuono, tutta la foresta guarda felice , dimenticando pero' che il grande albero a radici profonde e che attorno a lui ci sono molti germogli .Arrivano i giardinieri ,che non conoscono nulla di quella specie di albero percio' trascurano i germogli per tagliare l'albero pubblicamente e darlo in pasto ai media come un trofeo, il piu' grande albero mai tagliato , Comprate, comprate!!!!!!!!! Tutto questo provoca l'effetto contrario disgustoso per chiunque ,di cio'che si e' voluto ottenere,non per la scelta ,ma per i mezzi inpiegati i giovani germogli vengono TRASCURATI , vengono legati selvaggiamente a pali per stare dritti quando la loro natura era diversa, si impone un modello di albero che non e' il loro percio' non stupiamoci delle reazioni .Ogni azione ha una conseguenza a me sembra strano o anormale che nessuno vi abbia pensato prima.........comunque, i giovani germogli, incominciano a sentire troppo i raggi del sole, a bruciarsi, a temere il freddo il vento,,,,ora che il padre albero anche con tutti i suoi difetti,non c'e' piu', chi si prendera' cura di loro????????Lui gli ascoltava, o almeno faceva finta,ma soprattutto cosa piu' importante gli proteggeva da possibili carestie da attacchi di VIGLIACCHI parassiti e loro questo lo sapevano
    Io non riesco ad odiare,ne l'Iran ne l'Iraq ,perche' mi piacerebbe che storie come la mia ,in un contesto di scelta fossero uguali per milioni di altri ragazzi e che invece di giocare alla guerra si potesse magari parlare su quello che realmente abbiamo da imparare gli uni dagli altri,accettando tutte le differenze ma soprattutto rispettandole,quello che loro saranno domani lo si decide oggi,siamo noi che facciamo la differenza......
    Anche un terrorista si puo' conquitare, basta volerlo........
    Pediamic

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  105. Scrivi , anzi parla Tu, e di quello che sta accadendo sotto gli occhi di tutti un saluto
    pediamic lbm menziona tutto
    grazie
    AL

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