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Sunday, June 24, 2007

World’s most powerful, technologically advanced nation finds it impossible to neutralize the IED


The single most heartbreaking aspect of the Iraq war is the daily carnage against US troops due to IEDs. Nine U.S. troops were killed in Iraq on Saturday, bringing the U.S. military death toll so far in June to 79, the military reported.

Four of the troops were killed when a roadside bomb exploded near a coalition vehicle northwest of Baghdad on Saturday. An Iraqi interpreter riding with the soldiers was wounded.

The soldiers were with Multi-National Division-Baghdad, which has been conducting raids in the area north of the Iraqi capital to destroy insurgent safe havens, the military added.

Two other U.S. soldiers assigned to Multi-National Division-Baghdad were killed and three others were wounded when their unit was hit by a roadside bomb and small arms fire in eastern Baghdad early Saturday, the military said.

Those that survive are horribly maimed. They will be so from now and until their enthusiastic fresh faces wilt from age and become heavy with flesh and time. They will be forgotten as all disabled vets have been in all previous wars. Their reality will be a life of averted glances, pain and challenge. It need not have happened. How did it and why does it continue?

The US has spent $10 billion in an unsuccessful campaign to defeat these weapons, but IEDs, not gunfire, still account for the large majority of American casualties. It makes no sense to me, a non-soldier, to have US military vehicles rolling along on Iraqi roads where surveillance and clearing methods are inadequate. The Iraqis have all the bomb material necessary because we had too few troops to secure ammo dumps when we attacked Iraq and now the pilfered material kills and maims daily because we have inadequate forces to secure the roads.

I would be willing to bet that if George Bush, Dick Cheney, Paul Wolfowitz or Don Rumsfeld had family members riding mean Iraqi roads this would not have been. The Bush Administration has compassion and resources for millions of illegal entrants to the US, but never had the courage to ask for the sacrifice of the US to supply adequate troops and resources to the war of its creation. The architects and chief decider will never pay the price of their ineptitude and stupidity.

When I was in combat in Vietnam, my unit walked into ambushes from time to time…but never on a road. Early in his training, every soldier learns that you never travel a road or a trail until it has been secured in all directions to the maximum effective range of your weapons. Well, if it’s a violation of such a basic principle, why are we still doing it?

Recently, I asked this exact question of veteran officers with multiple tours in Iraq, and their replies were identical: not enough troops. Clearing and securing roads are labor-intensive exercises. To be sure, we are using technology to substitute for some of the labor, and we do defeat many IEDs in place before they can do harm, but there is really no operational excuse for driving into an ambush. If a vehicle has become the target of an IED, it means that security has been forsaken for expedience. As long as our troops drive along roads that have not been properly secured, some of them will be killed and maimed by IEDs.
- Col. Jack Jacobs, Medal of Honor Recipient

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52 comments:

  1. The Beat Goes On
    (La de da de de, La de da de da.)

    Drones took video
    Days before the offensive, unmanned U.S. drones recorded video of insurgents digging trenches with back-hoes, said Maj. Robbie Parke, spokesman for the 3rd Brigade, 2nd Infantry Division that is doing most of the fighting in western Baqouba.

    About 30 roadside bombs — known as improvised explosive devices or IEDs — were planted on Route Coyote, the U.S. code name for a main Baqouba thoroughfare, said Parke, 36, from Rapid City, S.D. “So they knew we were coming.”

    Odierno, who was in charge of Baqouba as head of the 4th Infantry Division in 2003 and 2004, said he was shocked at how entrenched al-Qaida had become.

    “This is not the Baqouba I knew, and we can’t let this happen again,” he said. Militant activity spiked in Baqouba in the summer of 2006, Odierno said. A U.S. airstrike killed al-Qaida in Iraq leader Abu Musab al-Zarqawi near Baqouba in June 2006, but by then the city was already a major base for his terror network.

    Since last fall, the U.S. has kept a single brigade — 3rd Brigade, 1st Cavalry Division — in charge of all of Diyala province. It was enough to conduct sporadic attacks on al-Qaida, but not enough to hold the entire province, Odierno said.
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    I guess there MUST be a good reason why we didn't send Apaches up there to take out the Backhoes and etc,
    RIGHT?

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  2. Maybe acting on UAV info violates the privacy rights of the criminal alien evildoers?

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  3. .."The commander of the U.S. operation said U.S. troops have cleared about 60 percent of western Baqouba of militants, but Iraqi security forces are ''not quite up to the job'' yet of holding the gains long term."

    Nor will they ever be.

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  4. "Brig. Gen. Mick Bednarek, of the Army's 25th Infantry Division, said it will take weeks or months before Iraqi security forces are ready to police the reclaimed area on their own."

    I have a suggestion to make. Close Guantanamo Tuesday. Take the 388 assholes and strap them on the front of the humvees and go out on patrol.

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  5. how to take out ied's

    Select an area of hostile land held by the enemy..

    allow people to leave

    level with major bombing until dust,

    bomb and repeat as neccessary.

    people who LIVE in tents without any electricity, cell phones or modern devices circ 1492 do not have the ability to make ied's

    or start bombing iran

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  7. Another day, another command detonated mine.

    That is what we used to call "IEDS".

    Take out the "command", no more IEDs.
    Simple, Simon.

    But the deal in Iraq, is ain't no war, has bot been since July '03.

    "O", if we will not rubble Iraqi homes and villages, or city blocks, And we will not bomb Iran.
    What to do, next.

    What option that is within the real operational perameters, other than to leave the Iraqi to their own devices?

    As we promised

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  8. There are, estimated. 25,000 assorted "Bad Guys" in Iraq. The big push, has killed 90 of them, in a week.

    ROCK ON!

    Only 250 more weeks to go, if the Enemy cannot resupply.

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  9. What happens, in September, when General P announces he was correct in his initial assessment.
    That the US Military cannot win in Iraq, militarily?

    That he can stir the pot, but just can't bring it to a boil.

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  10. What option that is within the real operational perameters, other than to leave the Iraqi to their own devices?


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    The Bridge on the River Kwai
    The Thai-Burma Railway
    With this in mind, I shall now finish this talk with a few words based on the theme of the now famous words: When you go home, tell them of us and say we gave our tomorrow for your today. My words are these:
    and, when I came home, I told them about us, the dead and the surviving.
    They listened, they nodded, smiling, forgetting. The widow held my hand, kissing me on the cheek, lightly,
    Not to rouse the pain within and walked away, sadly, proudly. Yes� I told them about us when I came home (Text of a talk by Fred Seiker to the Kwai Railway Memorial (Three Pagodas Group) at their October 1997 Annual General Meeting)

    ID Removed: address/contact/image
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  11. now i dont know what that was...
    but, i did read somewhere that there was a pulse electro machine that could set off explosives but the army did not want to use it as it could also set off bombs within civilian areas...

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  12. We've already been here:

    http://fallbackbelmont.blogspot.com/2005/08/unintended-consequences.html


    Change the angulation to allow for detection of organic objects (explosives) buried in the ground.

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  13. when we get serious we will destroy the supply lines coming out of iran

    when we get serious we will start using ied's on iran

    we will not leave iraq, dont left the gop and the dem's fool you

    ied's or not, the usa aint leaving iraq to it's own devices (or irans)

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  14. ied's are a pain in the ass..

    but real war is coming...

    hamastan, lebanon, syria & iran

    arabia, jordan & egypt

    sudan, somolia, chad, congo, zimbabwa

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  15. Been there, done that.
    You really do not understand the lack of depth in the Federal Government of the United States, do you?

    Watch and learn, amigos.

    Mira y aprenda, friends.

    All those places, "O", they'll burn without US.
    Just like Rhodesia.

    It's all in the plan, stan.

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  16. elijah,
    If there was ever a need for the US to take preemptive action against a Nation-State, in the War on Terror, it is and always has been in Pakistan.

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  17. Which does not even make "O's" list of hot spots.

    Being it is the only real time WMD threat to the US.

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  18. dear rat,

    my list exceeds my ability to speel

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  19. dRat,

    Sorry, but there just aren't enough Iraqi bases from which to attack Pakistan or Iran.

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  20. Iran, who said anything about Iran?

    By gones, that's the deal with Iran.

    Our EU allies ready to approve some Iranian nuclear enrichment capacity.

    As per Treaty Rights, I guess.

    Or per fear factor. But regardless, the peace train is rolling, the US is not about to block it.
    Will the Israeli go nuclear, preemptively?
    I tend to doubt it, at least with this generation of Israeli leaders.

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  21. dRat,

    I'm having a hard time gauging US approval or disproval. Why was Olmert invited to the White House? The men is a disaster. Is that part of the plan as well?

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  22. He performed to the US model, in Lebanon.

    He is leading the Levant to a new era of reconciliation.

    Baker-Hamilton is being implemented, almost to the letter, without acknowledgement.
    It is a wonder.

    Depends upon whose "Plan" we're discussing, I had thought Mr Sharon's well under way, when the Captain/Navigator left the bridge.

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  24. no matter our plan, the plan our enemy has is to destroy us..

    patience they will drag into destroying them

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  25. great news...
    5 spanish unifil troops blown up by ied or car bomb in southern iran, opps hezbollahstan, opps lebanon...

    more great news, 12 lebanese killed by ied's in northern lebanon by palios/islamists

    yet, we can talk about being appeasers all we wish..

    our islamicnut job enemies will MAKE us kill them

    I shall hold a prayer service 50 years from now to explain why we nuked several hundred million people back in 2010...

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  26. Hello everyone.

    I am still on my "away game" but I tuned in tonight to find this dreary post bringing all the patrons of this fine cantina down. For shame. I disagree with almost all of it, although I love to hang my hat in here and get comfortable at the bar.

    Deuce, you said:

    "It makes no sense to me, a non-soldier, to have US military vehicles rolling along on Iraqi roads where surveillance and clearing methods are inadequate."

    The bottom line is that IEDs are highly effective weapons in an insurgency; you cannot watch every where, all the time, no matter how many people or what technologies you have available.

    Some IEDs are command detonated, others act on a pressure plate. Some are buried, some are surface laid, some are in trees, some are camoflaged in the detritus littering dusty roads. The insurgents constantly shift their techniques, tactics, procedures and technology to maintain their effectiveness/lethality. There is no silver bullet for them, no single technology to make the threat of IEDs obsolete. Other than to not wage a counterinsurgency fight in built up areas. The way the world's demographics are going, that is not likely to happen any time soon, either.

    Also, with all due respect to Colonel Jack Jacobs, it is pretty difficult to stay off the roads in urban areas and still fight a counterinsurgency campaign; the fight in Iraq is not in the middle of the barren desert (where you can simply drive off the road and across the sand), it is in built up city areas. If the Army had to conduct a counterinsurgency fight in Detroit, you couldn't avoid the roads, so why should anyone be expected to in Baghdad?

    I disagree with his "nobody drives into an ambush", thing, too. Even with the utmost tactical presence of mind, experienced, disciplined units still unexpectedly encounter the enemy on the battlefield and have to react to contact, ESPECIALLY in built up areas. Moving a dismounted patrol through the jungles of Vietnam is not the same as driving a ground assault convoy through a built up area. I believe it is a bit disingenuous of the aforementioned Colonel to not say as much in his little essay, too.

    Baghdad is not the Central Highlands of Vietnam. I honor his valor and thank him for his service and welcome his exercise of free speech, but retired COL Jacob's comments are more political than practical.

    Deuce, I think the crack about Bush/Cheney not exerting more energy to solve the IED problem in these places is neither intellectually sound nor valid. By your own account, the administration spent 10 billion dollars in an attempt to solve this problem; even if they have thus far failed, 10 bills is hardly a drop in the bucket.

    So here is a slightly contrarian view.

    I can tell you from experience that Soldiers in the Army have a great deal more body Armor (better too), better helmets, better armored vehicles, and better personal first aid kits than they did on September 10, 2001. All of those items increase the probability of surviving (among other things) an IED strike.

    There are more and better night vision devices fielded than just a few years back, which allow Soldiers to drive more at night and lessen the chance of encountering IEDs.

    All that being said, Soldiers on today's battlefield are facing a tough fight, against a series of vicious, well funded, intelligent, adaptive, loosely networked enemies. Those lucky few in Afghanistan are facing many of the same things, if only on a slightly lesser scale.

    I somewhat agree with the more troops comments, but not for the same reasons that are proposed in the post. More boots on the ground would mean that the military would have enhanced capability to identify and kill/capture IED makers and facilitators. However, a substantial increase in troops would likely (at least initially) increase the casualty rate as well.

    OK, I hope that gives you all something to chew on. I will close by saying that I sense more despair in this commentary than I do when I am walking around and among Soldiers.

    When I get time (whenever that is!!) I will try to write a decent post to shine some light into the dark recesses of the bar, and chase the shadows away!

    Cheers!

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  27. "This is not the Baqouba I knew, and we can’t let this happen again,"
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    That's what the Shanesty Folks Claim will be the result of passing their carefully crafted legislation.

    Happened before, won't happen this time:

    Trust Us.
    (Admin, ICE, LaRaza, MECHA, ACLU, Johnny Sutton, and etc)

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  28. Bob W,
    Why shouldn't we have taken out the Backhoes, and etc from the air after spotting them with UAVs?

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  29. I too agree that a whole more troops were not the answer:
    More Violence was, and a quick turnover to the Iraqis, with them being dependent on us for arms to continue the violence against the insurgents.

    Being dependent, we could have called some of the shots about what was acceptable, and what was not.

    Many seem not to remember what a peaceful place it was by comparision for quite some time.

    We protected, sometimes even nurtured the insurgency for years, now we wonder what went wrong.

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  30. The above is not all 20 - 20 hindsight:

    After the good folks of Tikrit greeted us by murdering our Troops in Cold Blood, I called for rubbling the area:

    This would have had the additional benefit of taking out Saddam in less than 5 months.

    A good portion of the starter culture of the insurgency would have been taken out too, as well as their hidey holes.

    Instead our Viceroy let that grow for a year, as well as Sadr:
    Who could blame Al Q for not taking notice of the great opportunities we were providing them?

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  31. With a wimper, not a bang... [Victor Davis Hanson]

    Watching those film clips and pictures of the Taliban kidnapping Afghans who were de-mining the countryside, and Iranian thuggish police in black hoods hanging a sort of slop bucket around the necks of free-speech dissidents, and the various semi-official and popular Iranian, Pakistani, and Middle Eastern new threats to Sir Rushdie — while a silent West worries instead that the meals for Guantanamo inmates cost only 2-3 times more than the soldiers who guard them...

    - and wondering on a Saturday morning how a post-civilized West can marshal the will to win a war of ideas against pre-civilized Islamists.

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  32. U.S. to allow family visits for Iranian Revolutionary Guards members detained red-handed while plotting attacks to kill Americans?

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    Iranian Foreign Ministry spokesman says West now discussing Iran’s right to enrich uranium.
    Criticized “technological apartheid.”
    EU negotiator Solana calls talks “very constructive.”
    Says new sanctions could derail talks.

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  34. Command, pressure plates and/or trip wires, etc. etc ...
    Mines and booby traps, field expedient, same old same.

    Go through the buildings.

    But that would involve Doctrines of urban warfare abandoned in the post modern era.
    Where now, as Wretchard relates, Corps level operations are underway, the might of the US military has struck, and killed a gross or so of enemy combatants, in a week. Hammer and anvil, did the anvil move?

    At an operational cost of at least $2 Billion USD per week. To achieve what judgable Goasl, on what kind of a time frame, political questions that remain unanswered.

    That the US is now arming Saddamist in the Anbar may be touted as success against aQ, but Mr Maliki feels it is undermining his Government. It is.

    Arming the insurgents, not the most clever long term policy, unless of course, we've abandoned the goal of a Centralized Democratic Federal Iraq.

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  35. Delete this and make a post!
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    Deuce and Whit:
    How about Posting this as a thread starter where we can keep track and post updates?
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    Gordon Smith Is A "No" on Cloture [Kathryn Jean Lopez]
    06/22 08:22 PM

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    A Vote for Cloture Is a Vote for Amnesty [Mark Krikorian]

    Since Kathryn is now the official whip for the anti-amnesty forces, does anyone know what Dr. Barrasso, Wyoming's new senator, has said on immigration? Did it come up during his primary race in 1996?
    Here's the latest I have, from Numbers USA. Since Tuesday's cloture motion (to bring the amnesty back up for debate) needs 60 votes to succeed, that means 41 senators either have to vote No or just be absent. There are 32 pretty solid No votes for cloture and, assuming Fredo doesn't go and drag Sen. Johnson in from his sickbed, that's 33 against.

    The solid No votes on cloture are Alexander (R-Tenn.), Allard (R-Colo.), Baucus (D-Mont.), Byrd (D-W.Va.), Bunning (R-Ky.), Chambliss (R-Ga.), Coburn (R-Okla.), Corker (R-Tenn.), Cornyn (R-Texas), Crapo (R-Idaho), DeMint (R-S.C.), Dole (R-N.C.), Dorgan (D-N.D.), Enzi (R-Wyo.), Grassley (R-Iowa), Hutchison (R-Texas), Inhofe (R-Okla.), Isakson (R-Ga.), Landrieu (D-La.), McCaskill (D-Mo.), Pryor (D-Ark.), Roberts (R-Kan.), Rockefeller (D-W.Va.), Sanders (I-Vt.), Sessions (R-Ala.), Shelby (R-Ala.), Smith (R-Ore.), Stabenow (D-Mich.), Sununu (R-N.H.), Tester (D-Mont.), Thune (R-S.D.), Vitter (R-La.).

    That leaves eight votes to get to 41.


    The following 12 senators are leaning against the bill itself but so far are leaning toward the cloture motion — which means, in reality, that they would be helping pass the amnesty, because if the bill comes to a final vote, it will pass. These are the Senators whose decisions will likely determine whether the amnesty passes or not: Bond (R-Mo.), Bingaman (D-N.M.), Burr (R-N.C.), Boxer (D-Calif.), Cochran (R-Miss.), Conrad (D-N.D.), Ensign (R-Nev.), Levin (D-Mich.), Gregg (R-N.H.), Nelson (D-Neb.), Hatch (R-Utah), Webb (D-Va.).

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  36. See, doug, if you had accepted the power, you could do it, yourself

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  37. I thot the invite was more of a nudge to keep on topic!
    ...I'm very sensitive about that.

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  38. Bush Blows Up His Party:
    Glenn Reynolds argues the Administration is wrong to think it's up against only the "right wing blathersphere."
    Mickey Kaus

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  40. How many mega bases have been built in the last 10 years? Other than enriching the no bid contractors, what's the purpose? What's the threat? How does building these mega bases address that threat?

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  41. Ace:
    "What bullshit. I've seen some illegal immigrants, and let me tell you, they're not all comely. Some are pretty rough-looking, as a matter of fact.
    And yet New York Times photographers have this knack of presenting only the most telegenic and pull-the-hearstrings illegals to illustrate its pieces.
    "
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    Funny, I was counting Welfare Breeders and the little Welfare Feeders, brought to us by the Elite DC Greeders.
    ...all depends on one's perspective, I suppose.

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  42. YouTube 'Em

    Next weapon in the anti-comprehensive battle?
    Mickey Kaus

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  43. Okay Doug:
    I put up a post called "Counting Cloture."

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  44. Doug,

    All I see is a white elephant Mickey Mousing a bicycle with flat tires.

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  45. I didn't even see that!
    How's "Lost" coming?

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  46. First, it will have to be found. :(

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  47. Maybe get that Looking for Humor in the meantime?
    I haven't seen it,
    will now, I hope.

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