“Soft despotism is a term coined by Alexis de Tocqueville describing the state into which a country overrun by "a network of small complicated rules" might degrade. Soft despotism is different from despotism (also called 'hard despotism') in the sense that it is not obvious to the people."

Thursday, August 28, 2014

How women are sexually mistreated in India

Activists Want To Block A Statue Of 'Sexual Weirdo' Gandhi Being Built In London
By Chris Giles Aug 26 2014

On a visit to India in July, UK chancellor George Osborne announced that a statue of Mahatma Gandhi would be erected in Parliament Square. You can criticize Osborne for a lot of things, but you’d have thought his decision to build a statue of a globally revered peace-loving icon of Indian independence would be fairly uncontroversial.
However, alongside all of Gandhi’s notable achievements, he also used to do stuff like getting girls and boys to bathe and sleep together, chastely, as a kind of celibacy experiment. He also slept naked next to women—including, in one case, his grandniece—to test his own restraint. It’s this aspect of his character that doesn't wash too well with 82-year-old Dr. Kusoom Vadgama, founder of the Indo-British Heritage Trust, or Bhai Amrik Singh, leader of the UK's Khalistani Sikh Federation, who described Gandhi as a "sexual weirdo."
I gave Dr. Vadgama a call last week to talk about the campaign she’s launched against the proposed statue.
VICE: So how did this all begin?
Dr Kusoom Vadgama: I've been aware of the unjust treatment of women [in India] for many years. In Delhi over two years ago, an innocent women was killed and raped on a bus. The abuse she suffered was horrific—it pierced through my heart. There has also been another incident where women were hanged. These men want to abuse and destroy the spirit of women. When the chancellor, George Osborne, went to India they decided to announce the erection of a Gandhi statue in Parliament Square. First of all, there's already a statue of Gandhi in Tavistock Square. And secondly, no man has the right to abuse or use a woman’s body to satisfy his own whims.
In Gandhi’s case he wrote in his own autobiography that he went to sleep with his grandniece. When you [test] how much you can control yourself by going to bed with a 16-year-old, I think it’s bizarre. I don’t know if you’ve looked up Gandhi and his sex life, but you will be shocked. He is one man. I just feel I have to speak on behalf of woman all over the world about what men do to dominate and destroy the lives of women. We’re not pieces of furniture. I will do my damndest to stop this statue going up.
But Gandhi also helped with the emancipation of women in India.
That’s the irony of it. Everyone joined him because it was the culture of a movement. People hammer on about how great he was, but he insulted women. He used to tell little boys and girls to bathe together. It was also exposed that he went to bed naked with his grandniece and people at the time were disgusted. 
OK, but does he not deserve some recognition for all the great stuff he did?
I’m not denying he did a great deal. But in India people are brainwashed to believe that the history of India begins and ends with Gandhi. He was not the only one. His iconic status has risen as if nobody did anything else at all. If he wore a bowler hat and a suit nobody would take any notice of it, but he designed clothes to associate with the poor. In India you are born with Gandhi because the first time you look at the money, Gandhi’s face is on it. The whole system is focused to a degree of mass hypnotism. For me, I feel it's the women who have been insulted and degraded to a degree by a man who is meant to be the saintly savior of India. He has been overrated and he has to be put down to earth and treated as a normal person. Don’t put him in Parliament Square. He is a symbol of what women don’t want.
So why do you think he's held in such high regard?
In India we have a habit of worshiping people—like if you're rich, beautiful, or a film star. Gandhi was a horrible man to his family. He ill-treated his wife. He didn’t even tell her he was going to be celibate. Yet as a schoolgirl I was absolutely behind him. If he went on a fast, I went on a fast. Anything he did, I would do. I was so jealous of the two girls that went around with him. He was my god. But he has insulted the culture and women of India and the world. We got our independence, now we want our dignity.
I’d say the majority of people like Gandhi, so have you had much opposition to your campaign?
The initial reaction is always, “My god, I didn’t know that.” Then after it’s explained they give me their support. Many people locally are supporting me. I just can’t believe it. It's also important that the Indian diaspora here have some kind of role model, but does Gandhi inspire you? Overall, people have been supportive and shocked when I tell them [about his sex life.] Although, one of the fundraisers for the statue had a go at me and said, "What men do with women isn’t anybody’s business.” I accept that, but I said, “I am drawing a line when it involves a teenager who is his blood relation.” 
You’ve just started a petition, too, right? How’s that going?
It's a petition personally to George Osborne and has just gone online. There's already a Gandhi statue two miles from Parliament Square—why [do they need another]? Maybe they want to impress the government in India, or it might be to do with the trade benefits or something. I have already sent George Osborne two letters and am just about to write a third one.
Has he replied?
No. I wrote the second letter in the full knowledge that he would neither reply nor do anything to stop the construction of the statue. But I’m going to keep going. This is a very serious mater. I want to say, "Enough is enough."   

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    1. What you are posting of course is true.

      England is lost.

      The question really is: Has the "west" decided on suicide by Islam?

      Of course many here at the "bar" will decry such racist ideas. But it explains the shifting of historic positions from "american exceptionalism", Israel and the world.

  2. Jeez Looize,

    We're sitting here with an economy that's fluctuating between -2 and +4 on a quarterly basis, wars breaking out all over the world, and I have, at last count, the grand total of 4 functioning brain cells, and you put up a post about Gandhi's sexual habits (or non-habits?)

    Yikes :)

  3. I strive to broaden your horizon.

  4. Replies
    1. Like everyone else, I can't help paying attention to GDP numbers, but I'm becoming convinced that they're about as useful as tits on a boar hog.

      Median Income, it seems to me, is an infinitely more important number.

      Hourly wages, also.

    2. Jobless Claims 298,000

      4 wk. average 299,750

      Pretty Strong, also.

    3. Rufus, you are the one who points to the dow and other exchanges as proof of Obamas bona fides as a capitalist and not a "socialist:.

      And yet you still fail to account for quatitiative easing's effect on the stock market, lower interest rates (returns) and the rising cost of dollar pegged commodities..

    4. You sound like Doug. You can't bifurcate economic leanings that neatly. "Capitalist or Socialist" is way too simplistic. Everyone, and everything has to be looked at on a continuum. Obomb'em leans to the left, but he's hardly a full-fledged "Socialist."

      That said, those "worst socialist ever" comments are mostly tongue-in-cheek.

  5. It's getting better in India but they've a long way to go. My Niece tells me women usually are expected to be married by 20-22 and her family is putting the pressure on her. She let it out she is 27. I was telling her the farmers out this way always call their wives "the better half" and she was quite impressed and pleased with this. "That is the way it should be" she said. "But you are in a free country."


    The only way up and out for a woman in India is through education, she says. Unless you are born wealthy, and 99.99% are not.

    She is a remarkable young Lady.

    Much of this comes from the old caste system, which had many more than the four main castes. Everyone has a place, and everyone in his or her is breaking down now though....give it a couple hundred years.....

    1. Linguistically, she speaks five languages, and has a little Rufus in her. Every once in a while she lets out with a real ripper. It is quite humorous because it is so unexpected.

      "Shit !!" is a favorite. She also said the other day "I don't give a fuck anymore what they say or do back there."


    2. I am mailing her today a couple of T-Shirts from the CdA Casino that say "Winner" on them cause she is a winner.

  6. I see someone posted using my bob the other day. This means I will have to find my password for my google account, and where the hell is that?

    Computers and all things computer are a big pain in the ass.


  7. Aha, that was an epic struggle but I will now be know as Idaho Bob.

    So you can fuck off, rathole.

  8. The caste system in India is the result of accepting the outlook of the star trackers in early Mesopotamia......everything in its place and a place for everything, human life as an imitation of that revealed in the orderly movement of the stars.

    Europe, Greece, etc never did really accept this...and so our social relations have always been quite different from those in a place like India. Campbell drew a line down through Iran and maintained that in the old days everything east of that line was structured by a total impersonality, even to the point that a 'good' Hindu wife had one last 'duty' when her husband throw herself on his funeral fire.

    A human being was totally defined by his/her role/rank. It was madness. But it is passing.

    With the coming of democracy, world wide communications, world wide trade......the whole older outlook is breaking down.

  9. Rooskies are invading eastern Ukraine.